No not really..what makes it more complicated? This is more of a roadside or emergency repair and adjustment. He's not doing bicycle surgery. Don't try to make this out to more than it is.
All the spokes are inter connected in the wheel. If you tighten one without loosening the opposites if all spokes are tightened hard, you inherently cause imbalances/tension. At the right moment, the weakest link has to give, it may be the spokes, or even the rim. The nut on the spoke may tear through the rim. It could work if you check the tension before tightening it by using your fingers to pull on the spokes to see if it/they are loosen where your sticky tape marking or opposite. Truing is to make the wheel as round as possible. One would measure by observing the deviation of the radius length when the wheel rotate. This hack tries to reduce the deviation of one side of the wheel. I am not sure that would achieve truing the wheel.
Thank you for thoroughly explaining this should be the top comment I don't understand why it's not because I'm a tire technician and even I didn't know what was going on here although I do with cars and trucks and semis not really with motorcycles and bikes so thank you for the information I do appreciate it and I will apply this knowledge the next time a biker comes into my job complaining about an unbalanced feeling in their wheel I now can fix it they're building a stronger customer basis thank you also shop for tires get your tires fixed and lower upper suspension based service go to Big O we will fix you right up
I always look for comments like this. I see the video, know I need an explanation, and find wonderful knowledgeable people like you. Thank you for adding to my plethora of useless knowledge (that I cherish) that I keep inside my head
my dude i deal with spokes and rims for a living , if you need to loosen the opposite spokes the deformation of the rim is severe (and you have to think if the effort is worth the saving ) or you shouldnt have touched the wheel to beginn with. since you work your way like litteraly all the radius around all spokes end up thight enough to cut a cucumber. you only need to loosen the spokes to level the rim if it happen to bounce a bit up and down at the marker. the funny thing is you have to make sure the BB´s of the hub are thighten as well and the axle set straight in the frame. many try this stunt on virtualy loose hub bearings with a wiggle of about 1-1,5 mm without the spokes flex and they wonder why the rim keep on scretching on the brakepads
This would be the exact same thing as someone taking a tire off a car, where they show them loosening the lug nuts and then check mark it's all fixed, there's a hell of a lot more to it than simply tightening one spoke. Actually it's imperative to even the tension on the spokes around the smoke that you're trying to tighten. Like for example you've got a left spoke and a right spoke, and you need to tighten the left spoke to pull the rim over that way, well what you want to do is loosen the right spoke one turn and then tighten the left spoke one turn that way you get equal pressure between both the left and the right side of the rim. Maybe simply just tighten all the spokes on one side, or over tighten them for that matter, then you get uneven pressure and you get a weak wheel, and you're actually more liable to break spokes over time or immediately in some cases as soon as the wheel is weighted down. I know this because I was a professional bicycle mechanic in a bike shop for a decade, simply tightening the spoke to pull the rim over to one side is not what you do, I mean it does work, but again it's the wrong way to do it.
Loosening one spoke that much is absolutely nuts. You would have to micro torque every other spoke just to make sure that one doesn't come more loose and flop around in the future
He didn't fix shit. He simply addressed how to go about a whole myriad of things that are involved in the spokes on a wheel. Truing is an art, that few are truly familiar with. I'm reality u need a truing stand and patience. Lots of patience. If u really wanna know how this goes, go to a bike shop and watch an old guy true a set of wheels. That'll set u in the right direction. Hope this helps
@@Captain-Cardboardthere ain't no helping your lot. But I'm sure you're doing the best u can, to do something or another. Even if you're unsure what that is...
El video esta bien pero se necesita mucha experiencia para centrar una rueda correctamente, siempre son varios los rayos que deben ser ajustados o aflojados segun corresponda...
No this is not the way you check the air pressure because the spokes might be bent and it will take more turns on the ones that are not to make them the same length to balance out the pressure in the as it rotates. This is a trick kids use to do to their bikes to make them sound like a helicopter when it comes into contact with the spokes' you need to move it where it will come in contact with the spokes.
doing one spoke is not going to fix it, a dry erase marker held down on the frame while you spin the tire will mark it with light then strong then light stroke so you know how many spokes you need to adjust and how many turns for each one. A curve in a tire is going to encompass multiple spokes.
Thanks for elaborating. Completely agree with this process. Called several bike shops in Charlotte NC to be told you couldn’t straighten a warped rim with the spokes and they would need replacing.
Especially since for most people on their daily ride, rubbing on the brake blocks is the only reason they might need to adjust their spokes in the first place
Обычно все намного сложнее, ибо неровность длится не одну спицу а множество, и с разной степенью отклонения😅
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Don’t need a cable tie. It’s easier to just eye it up. Difficult but is letting people know which spokes should be loosened or tightened to influence the rim in the desired direction. It’s all practice
Just look at your break pads and you will see the wobble or hear a rub on one and adjust. That's just a waste of a good zip tie. Dont forget little adjustments of both sides of spokes to keep the rim balanced in relation to the hub.
A lot more to it. Spoke adjustment is counter intuitive. Once you understand not so bad My first try had a slight warp. Ended up wya pretzel by the time I was done. Ended up going to bike shop and dishing out the 3 bucks (2 hours wages for me, 70's) Guy took my pretzel any running straight in like 5 minutes. There's some great videos out there that go more into depth.
It's called "Trueing" or balancing the rim, you know how the rims get wobbly when you spin them sometimes? This is the way to redial them. Can take time depending on how bad the rim is. Hope this helps.
@@Ron-c6i That isn't good lol. But if it works it works! (That's how they balance Vehicle rims) Prob easier than sitting down for an hour trying to tighten the spokes perfectly anyways Haha! I'm with it!
If you're going to do this way just use the brake shoes as reference, is not as accurate as specific equipment but works quite well when doing at home. Assuming it uses rim brakes like in the video.
i dont think people know but this is an emergency hack when you are on the road or mountain and dont have a wheel balancer on you. this is the best option until you get to a bike store. obviously truing a wheel is complexed and precise, but eyeing a rough balance to get you down the mountain, this is exactly what you do.
You don't need a zip tie for an on-road fix. Just your thumb or even just eyeballing it will tell you where the problem is. Also, this is a rim-brake wheel, so you can use the brake pads.
Im a mechanic and I have to Say: if you don’t Made This at least 50 times, you will fk it up at the First time. Its easy, if you know HOW to handle the Spoke Torque
Вы не поверите, но было время, когда мы собирали велосипеды по запчастям ! Включая обод , спицы и другое! Сейчас конечно велосипеды сильно изменились )
I actually did this 5 years back when i was putting new spokes on my dirt jumper and i later on when to a bike shop to get a new chain and even they where impresses when i said that i laced with wheels myself
I hear a unhappy cat in the distance 😂
Если бы не ты, то я бы не заметил!
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It’s a bit more complicated than this!
Works rim brake pads
No not really..what makes it more complicated? This is more of a roadside or emergency repair and adjustment. He's not doing bicycle surgery. Don't try to make this out to more than it is.
No it's not. This is exactly what a truing stand does
Nur wenn man nichts drauf hat, ist es schwer. Dann ist sogar Nudelwaser warm machen eine Herausforderung.
@@enBensemer 😂😂😂😂cooked him
I thought he was about to put it on where the zip tie would hit his spokes like we did with baseball cards as kids.😂
Same 😂
We did it with a empty bottle and just destroyed the tyres. Ahhh good old times
We did this with cans 😂
Me too! 🤣
Now I’m just confused. I don’t know what the heck he’s doing here.
I have used soda cans, bottles, cards, even silicone plates😂😂
All the spokes are inter connected in the wheel. If you tighten one without loosening the opposites if all spokes are tightened hard, you inherently cause imbalances/tension. At the right moment, the weakest link has to give, it may be the spokes, or even the rim. The nut on the spoke may tear through the rim.
It could work if you check the tension before tightening it by using your fingers to pull on the spokes to see if it/they are loosen where your sticky tape marking or opposite.
Truing is to make the wheel as round as possible. One would measure by observing the deviation of the radius length when the wheel rotate. This hack tries to reduce the deviation of one side of the wheel. I am not sure that would achieve truing the wheel.
Thank you for thoroughly explaining this should be the top comment I don't understand why it's not because I'm a tire technician and even I didn't know what was going on here although I do with cars and trucks and semis not really with motorcycles and bikes so thank you for the information I do appreciate it and I will apply this knowledge the next time a biker comes into my job complaining about an unbalanced feeling in their wheel I now can fix it they're building a stronger customer basis thank you also shop for tires get your tires fixed and lower upper suspension based service go to Big O we will fix you right up
I dont really know what any of that meant but you sound like you know what youre talking about so I gave you a like
I always look for comments like this. I see the video, know I need an explanation, and find wonderful knowledgeable people like you. Thank you for adding to my plethora of useless knowledge (that I cherish) that I keep inside my head
@@taydynstensgard8107- Not having a go... just an fyi: ... It's Tyre as in wheel.... not Tire as in sleepy (tired)
my dude i deal with spokes and rims for a living , if you need to loosen the opposite spokes the deformation of the rim is severe (and you have to think if the effort is worth the saving ) or you shouldnt have touched the wheel to beginn with.
since you work your way like litteraly all the radius around all spokes end up thight enough to cut a cucumber.
you only need to loosen the spokes to level the rim if it happen to bounce a bit up and down at the marker.
the funny thing is you have to make sure the BB´s of the hub are thighten as well and the axle set straight in the frame.
many try this stunt on virtualy loose hub bearings with a wiggle of about 1-1,5 mm without the spokes flex and they wonder why the rim keep on scretching on the brakepads
In 45 years of cycling to school, work and everywhere else, I have NEVER needed this "hack".
Damn you're slow learner.
@@Jm-ld4yj 😮. Okay! He never "NEEDED" this hack. Read or learn a language before you comment.
@@Jm-ld4yjI hope you feel better after writing that.
Because no one needs to repair thing that works
You’ve never trued your wheels?
*"Finally! I can fix my bike without needing a PhD in engineering. Just call me the zip tie magician!"*
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Кусочек мела, определит быстрее...😅
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LOL you think its that easy trueing and dishing 😆. I BUilt oh 3 wheels before I got it.
And that was in a trueing stand not on a bike.
He just loosened a spoke and fixed it for the video, it's not likely that just one spoke would cause the issue.
Absolutely.
Thumb him down.
It's the same as a stand.. yes you might have to do a few different ones on each side, but it works I've done it many times..
Are you making a mistake. Did he loosen ?
He's truing the wheel dummy, a lot of times it is only one or two spokes that need adjustment
What is the issue ?
This would be the exact same thing as someone taking a tire off a car, where they show them loosening the lug nuts and then check mark it's all fixed, there's a hell of a lot more to it than simply tightening one spoke.
Actually it's imperative to even the tension on the spokes around the smoke that you're trying to tighten. Like for example you've got a left spoke and a right spoke, and you need to tighten the left spoke to pull the rim over that way, well what you want to do is loosen the right spoke one turn and then tighten the left spoke one turn that way you get equal pressure between both the left and the right side of the rim.
Maybe simply just tighten all the spokes on one side, or over tighten them for that matter, then you get uneven pressure and you get a weak wheel, and you're actually more liable to break spokes over time or immediately in some cases as soon as the wheel is weighted down.
I know this because I was a professional bicycle mechanic in a bike shop for a decade, simply tightening the spoke to pull the rim over to one side is not what you do, I mean it does work, but again it's the wrong way to do it.
mil gracias ❤
Loosening one spoke that much is absolutely nuts. You would have to micro torque every other spoke just to make sure that one doesn't come more loose and flop around in the future
I have no clue wtf is going on here, what did you fix exactly?
He didn't fix shit. He simply addressed how to go about a whole myriad of things that are involved in the spokes on a wheel. Truing is an art, that few are truly familiar with. I'm reality u need a truing stand and patience. Lots of patience. If u really wanna know how this goes, go to a bike shop and watch an old guy true a set of wheels. That'll set u in the right direction. Hope this helps
@@oliverklozhoff Nope, still lost.
@@oliverklozhoff It didn't help.
He had an extra zip tie that he needed to get rid of somehow
@@Captain-Cardboardthere ain't no helping your lot. But I'm sure you're doing the best u can, to do something or another. Even if you're unsure what that is...
Without a disgruntled cat in the background, I can't do anything.
El video esta bien pero se necesita mucha experiencia para centrar una rueda correctamente, siempre son varios los rayos que deben ser ajustados o aflojados segun corresponda...
No this is not the way you check the air pressure because the spokes might be bent and it will take more turns on the ones that are not to make them the same length to balance out the pressure in the as it rotates.
This is a trick kids use to do to their bikes to make them sound like a helicopter when it comes into contact with the spokes' you need to move it where it will come in contact with the spokes.
doing one spoke is not going to fix it, a dry erase marker held down on the frame while you spin the tire will mark it with light then strong then light stroke so you know how many spokes you need to adjust and how many turns for each one. A curve in a tire is going to encompass multiple spokes.
Thanks for elaborating. Completely agree with this process.
Called several bike shops in Charlotte NC to be told you couldn’t straighten a warped rim with the spokes and they would need replacing.
which do you tighten? the spokes with light marker on them?
@@everberry51 tighten in the direction they need to move from center hub to which side you’re moving to
cats fighting for its life in the background
Quarter of a turn of the spoke wrench is that is usually needed not a full turn
Less if speed or distance or railing.
Am I the only one you’ve used on how he got the perfect cut on the first try🙏😭😭
Those are adjustable? What did it do?
Just use a bit of tape on a bit of chalk there so it draws on the spots that need adjusting. Much simpler, less guessing "did that move?"
Who here is old enough where we would put a playing card agaist the spokes for the the 'clicky' noise?
We used to put Pau-Pau or Frutsis (kids juice bottles) in Mexico to make it sound like a motorcycle
My Mickey Mantle rookie cards made the best sounds ... Homer J Simpson
I just put any plastic bottles haha
We would put a flattened can in between the forks hitting the tire to make a motorcycle noise
I would be surprised if kids don’t still do this
This is epic. My first job was as a bicycle mechanic and I hated truing rims.
Никогда так просто не получается
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@@iraneman166809-06-2025. Buena noche. Lunes œthrejnnI. STP, CTP 🕥💤🌃
Instructions unclear, I now have a unicycle. Help😂
Or you can look at the brake blocks.
Especially since for most people on their daily ride, rubbing on the brake blocks is the only reason they might need to adjust their spokes in the first place
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Обычно все намного сложнее, ибо неровность длится не одну спицу а множество, и с разной степенью отклонения😅
Don’t need a cable tie.
It’s easier to just eye it up. Difficult but is letting people know which spokes should be loosened or tightened to influence the rim in the desired direction.
It’s all practice
Very good!👍
Pure talent. No words
No intenten eso. Puede salir muy mal. A menos que estén dispuestos a ponchar su llanta.
Porque, para que se hace eso?
Its remarkable that he is capable of cutting the tiewrap perfectly without measuring
I like the simplicity of the video but if only it were that easy...
Just look at your break pads and you will see the wobble or hear a rub on one and adjust. That's just a waste of a good zip tie. Dont forget little adjustments of both sides of spokes to keep the rim balanced in relation to the hub.
Als Kind habe ich das einmal versucht, danach hat das Rad an 8 Stellen ausgeschlagen😅😅
Great tip,
Thanks.
The way you explained this is SO clear. Thank you
The way you commented this is SO clear. Go away, bot.
@@pukelius4128The way you told that bot to go away was SO clear!
The way you explained this is SO clear. Thank you
Simple et efficace bravo .👏👍
А что мелок приставить нельзя, чтобы отметил.
تو مملکت اینا گچ نیست.
como la vieja escuela jajaja
A lot more to it. Spoke adjustment is counter intuitive.
Once you understand not so bad
My first try had a slight warp.
Ended up wya pretzel by the time I was done.
Ended up going to bike shop and dishing out the 3 bucks (2 hours wages for me, 70's)
Guy took my pretzel any running straight in like 5 minutes.
There's some great videos out there that go more into depth.
Na primeira filmagem ele volta a roda , na segunda ele não volta porque se ele volta vai acontecer a mesma coisa.
It is not turning the wheel, but getting stuck due to the problem. So in the video, it is justified so that it does not get stuck again.
Mood instantly lifted. Thank you for this
Forgive my ignorance... what is it for?
It's called "Trueing" or balancing the rim, you know how the rims get wobbly when you spin them sometimes? This is the way to redial them. Can take time depending on how bad the rim is. Hope this helps.
@Thats.Schmidty Thank you so much!!
I'll like it now, I thought it was a joke before
I didn't know either. Thanks for asking and thanks for replying!
@Thats.Schmidty I use weights on the rim to balance my tires.
@@Ron-c6i That isn't good lol. But if it works it works! (That's how they balance Vehicle rims) Prob easier than sitting down for an hour trying to tighten the spokes perfectly anyways Haha! I'm with it!
Being able to true your own wheel is alpha AF. I paid someone to true my rear wheel at one BMX race. I was badass with a bike, but not that badass!
Thanks for sharing your experience! 👍😉🤝
This video randomly popped up and I m glad it did
This gave me chills… in the best way
Bro. The tape is KILLING me!! 😂😂😂
Hey cyclists, motors exist. You’re welcome.
(Also, the rest of humanity is happy to have you off the road)
First go thru all, tighten the one that feel lose. Then check. it can take some time, but not too long.
Your consistency is inspiring-keep going
If you're going to do this way just use the brake shoes as reference, is not as accurate as specific equipment but works quite well when doing at home. Assuming it uses rim brakes like in the video.
i dont think people know but this is an emergency hack when you are on the road or mountain and dont have a wheel balancer on you. this is the best option until you get to a bike store. obviously truing a wheel is complexed and precise, but eyeing a rough balance to get you down the mountain, this is exactly what you do.
You don't need a zip tie for an on-road fix. Just your thumb or even just eyeballing it will tell you where the problem is. Also, this is a rim-brake wheel, so you can use the brake pads.
First you have to show how to set the reference of an middle. Than its loosen the neighbors and tighten the center of the damage.
Thank you. I was wondering how to fix this
Wow, this is a great way to do it!
You can use the brake calipers as guides too...
A clothes peg will work just as well plus it can be removed easier and reused. That being said, I just gauge it off my break pad.
Зачем так усложнять?! Все проще делается на глаз и точнее!!! 😊
In a whole lifetime of cycling I didn't know this hack and never once needed it.
I'd let the tyre pressure down so the spoke screw doesn't chew into your inner tube.
All of the spokes are in tension with all of the other spokes. That's how this works.
Sounds like a cat going ballistic 😂😂
Push it a bit in front and you'll get a brand new silencer sound...😂
😁😁😁😁
Spokes suck. This reminds me why I went with Mag wheels instead of spoke on my first motorcycle.
A lot of complaints on this thread but I think this was simple but brilliant. It's tough truing wheels.
That's actually tightening the spoke that will pull it even more towards the pointer.....at least make it realistic
In our bike shop we would would adjust the brake calipers and use the pads to true the wheels.
ну как минимум сложность в том, чтобы идеально отрезать расстояние кончика стяжки, чтобы оно было чётко по ободу и тормозилось только на букорке
This truly is a wonderful comentary on cyclists. Do something random with absolutely no explanation and assume we all understand what you're doing.
Im a mechanic and I have to Say: if you don’t Made This at least 50 times, you will fk it up at the First time. Its easy, if you know HOW to handle the Spoke Torque
I knew the internet would make short work of this SHORT! Just let the channel creator have a win folks🤣
Yup the cat did it!!😮😮😂
Do not do this. You will throw your wheel out of tune. Get a professional stand or bring it to a shop. (I work on bicycles semi-professionally*)
Вы не поверите, но было время, когда мы собирали велосипеды по запчастям ! Включая обод , спицы и другое! Сейчас конечно велосипеды сильно изменились )
он эту спицу которую крутит , должен был наоборот затянуть - она ведь дальняя, а неближняя. а он её откручивает и ослабляет
Pura Inteligencia Pura!!! 😮
Instructions unclear. My bike does not make these sounds
а вместо наклейки наверное можно использовать жидкий маркер что смывается водой.
This is a cool idea but I'm lucky enough to have access to all the correct tools for jobs like this
That was brilliant
А мы в детстве мелом помечали на резине. ))
The cat said you cheat 😂😂😂
I have just learned that I know nothing about the essentials of bicycle maintenance.
I use a crayon 🖍️ works perfectly
so simple thanks for the tip x
Works good on chain driven motorcycles
I actually did this 5 years back when i was putting new spokes on my dirt jumper and i later on when to a bike shop to get a new chain and even they where impresses when i said that i laced with wheels myself
Very good 👍👍👍
We just clipped a playing card with a clothes pin and it made a wonderful noise.
If you loosen that wire, it will loosen even more over time and the wheel will burst.
I ve had this on repeat all day
You can also do something similar with a playing card to make a cool clicky sound
Super jest to zrobione Pozdrawiam serdecznie.👍👍👍👍👍
Playing cards and a clothes clip, we were doing this better in the 50’s.
Handy hint ,,deflate the tyre before you tighten the spokes ,
❤I would have loved to use this as a little kid instead of using a empty water bottle😅 but thoses were the good old days😢
Thanks man
Just another genius on the internet. Showing people how to do stuff wrong.
Before zip ties I used a paper clip or a piece of wire lying around the garage 😂😂
Yea. I’m about to do this on my pit bike, it’s got a little wiggle to it. Probably from popping the clutch to do wheelies lol
It's not complicated for me; this is a brand new way of checking your spokes!!!!
Push it a bit in front and you'll get a brand new silencer sound...😂