Thanks for the in-depth description clarifying how all of this stuff works . It's great that companies and people like you are sharing this information. But with the variety of wiring options, and the advent of the TYPE-A+B LEDs, which tube do you think is or will be the most popular and (really the bottom line) the most manufactured and economical type of LED tube for T12 & T8 type lighting fixtures in the future, barring the introduction of another "better" lighting option? I'm new to these conversions and am on information overload right now so much that it's taking me back to the days of the BETA vs VHS debacle! 😱 I personally like the single-end TYPE-B just because it's seems the most simplest. I would just like to know which direction we're going before I start yanking down my old T-12s and Frankenstein-ing them into T-8 LEDs! 😄 Thanks again for your presentation. It's greatly appreciated!
You're very welcome! Glad our video was helpful 🙂 We hear from many electricians that favor the dual end retrofit method as it utilizes the existing fixture components and provides a faster conversion. So it saves time and money. Type A+B helps remove the guess work out of the equation for DIYers and provides a very easy way to get into LED. But like most things when something works great, provides good benefits and it isn't very costly it tends to grow in popularity and use, pushing costlier alternatives out. Both provide great benefits but it ultimately comes down to the projects requirements. Hope that helps 😊
This is a great detailed video for led conversion, thanks very much for posting. Does it matter (once a two lamp fixture has been converted and the ballast removed) which end of the A+B bulb goes to the hot side vs neutral, or can it be turned either way as long as the led strip is at the top facing down? Thanks again
Once you have made the conversion will you always need to use the hybrid type A/B led bulbs from the point forward? I have converted my Mom’s second fixture with the aid of this video and both are working perfectly. Thanks again for posting!
What type of LED bulb you use will depend on which retrofit method you use. So for example if you use the double end retrofit method you can use the A/B universal led bulbs or type B double end powered LED tubes used in this video in the fixture 🙂
Since we don't sell the brand of LED tubes from Lowes I would not be able to provide an informed answer. I would recommend always following the directions that comes with the product 🙂
@@Totallightingsupply - I will say, if they want you to install a fuse in a fixture that, for the sel or del didn’t have a fuse, then their tube isn’t “universal” …
This video was very informative. But my question is how do you bypass the ballast for light fixtures that are daisy chained. I have two extra fixtures and the main one coming from the ceiling wiring. I’m having trouble trying to locate a video or understanding how to do this. All the Videos I’ve seen are for 1 fixture bypasses. Can you help me or attach a link to a video?? Thanks.
It's very challenging to troubleshoot these types of wiring situations without being there. One of the best place to start is with our form. It walks you through some of the most common issues. I believe it deals with daisy chained fixtures. You can find that guide here www.totalbulklighting.com/fast-fluorescent-to-led-t8-conversion-tool.html
unfortunately there are many variables that have impacted the sale of these amazing T8 LED tubes. One of the biggest issues is the amount of breakage in shipping on small orders. No matter how well we packaged these tubes the shipping company managed to break them over and over and over. Hopefully that helped shed some light on the question 🙂
You are correct the labeling for Non-Shunted and Shunted is backward 😬 Thank you for bringing this to our attention. We will update the video description help clarify the confusion 🙂
The universal T8 LED tube used in the video will work with both shunted and non-shunted tombstones. What's more important is how the fixture is wired. Always follow the wiring diagram when doing any retrofitting and installation.
Wattage: What would you say is the difference between a 5000k led bulb with 18w and a 20w 5000k led bulb in terms of brightness and electricity consumption?
I would find the lumens of each tube and divide the lumens by the watts the tube and see if you are gaining any lumen benefits from adding 2 more watts with the 20watt tube. Hope that helps 🙂
At 15.40 in your video you show a shunted tombstone and a non shunted tombstone, but you have labeled them wrongly, the one on the left is the shunted version and the one on the right is a non shunted version.
Thank you for the feedback! A fellow viewer brought it to our attention in the comments below and so we put a note in our video description to help. Wish RUclips had a way to annotate so we could put it right on the video 🙂
I have a 4 ft 2 ballast florescent fixture. From each ballast comes 2 red 2 blue 2 yellow. How do i rewire with no ballasts with double end bulbs. I have the ability for on and off from 2 different switches. Either one makes the entire light come on or off
This is called "three way switching". There are a number of ways this is wired, and we cannot explore all of them here. Best thing is to get your electrician on the job and in 10 minutes he will know where the hot and neutral wires are that come in the fixture and will be able to wire up your retrofit quick. As long as he knows that the bulbs are powered from each end, Hot (Black) on one and Neutral (White) on the other it will be easy. Your electrician will remove the ballasts and wire up your LED to work perfectly. Hope that helps 🙂
So if I have shunted tombstones and want to power the light single end power, do I need to change the tombstones on both ends of the fixture to non shunted or just the power end of the fixture to non shunted? Thanks
That is correct, for single end powered led T8 tubes you will need non-shunted tombstones on only the one side that is electrically connected. You can find non-shunted tombstones on our website here 👉 www.totalbulklighting.com/parts-accessories/non-shunted-tombstones-sockets.html
We have a video for that! See our video here ruclips.net/video/bnaUhFCdFuI/видео.html - Also see our conversion tool that talks about different setups with dual ballast and what can be done here www.totalbulklighting.com/fast-fluorescent-to-led-t8-conversion-tool.html - Choose 4foot > Double end > Check the box on "I have more than one ballast. Show me more information on Dual Ballast Fluorescent Lights." Hope that helps!
Excellent !! The industry has done its best to thoroughly confuse what used to be dirt simple. Thanks for re-simplifying it …
We agree, it's super confusing. You are very welcome. Glad you found a video helpful 🙂
The best explanation about led
Thanks for the in-depth description clarifying how all of this stuff works . It's great that companies and people like you are sharing this information. But with the variety of wiring options, and the advent of the TYPE-A+B LEDs, which tube do you think is or will be the most popular and (really the bottom line) the most manufactured and economical type of LED tube for T12 & T8 type lighting fixtures in the future, barring the introduction of another "better" lighting option? I'm new to these conversions and am on information overload right now so much that it's taking me back to the days of the BETA vs VHS debacle! 😱 I personally like the single-end TYPE-B just because it's seems the most simplest. I would just like to know which direction we're going before I start yanking down my old T-12s and Frankenstein-ing them into T-8 LEDs! 😄
Thanks again for your presentation. It's greatly appreciated!
You're very welcome! Glad our video was helpful 🙂 We hear from many electricians that favor the dual end retrofit method as it utilizes the existing fixture components and provides a faster conversion. So it saves time and money. Type A+B helps remove the guess work out of the equation for DIYers and provides a very easy way to get into LED. But like most things when something works great, provides good benefits and it isn't very costly it tends to grow in popularity and use, pushing costlier alternatives out. Both provide great benefits but it ultimately comes down to the projects requirements. Hope that helps 😊
Excellent videos, very informative, Aloha and Mahalo! From Hawaii
Glad you found our videos helpful! Have a blessed day 😃
This is a great detailed video for led conversion, thanks very much for posting. Does it matter (once a two lamp fixture has been converted and the ballast removed) which end of the A+B bulb goes to the hot side vs neutral, or can it be turned either way as long as the led strip is at the top facing down? Thanks again
For our T8 LED lamps the direction doesn't matter. Now this may be different for other brands. Hope that helps 🙂
Once you have made the conversion will you always need to use the hybrid type A/B led bulbs from the point forward? I have converted my Mom’s second fixture with the aid of this video and both are working perfectly. Thanks again for posting!
What type of LED bulb you use will depend on which retrofit method you use. So for example if you use the double end retrofit method you can use the A/B universal led bulbs or type B double end powered LED tubes used in this video in the fixture 🙂
@@Totallightingsupply ok, that’s great to know. Thanks for the helpful info!
@@cd7071 You're very welcome 🙂
I find that the lower colour temperatures render colour better than the higher colour temperatures.
We find that most residential spaces using a higher color temperature just makes it feel unnatural 🙂
I purchased universal A&B tubes at Lowes and their wiring diagram says to use a 1 amp fuse on the hot wire ???? Is this really necessary ?
Since we don't sell the brand of LED tubes from Lowes I would not be able to provide an informed answer. I would recommend always following the directions that comes with the product 🙂
@@Totallightingsupply - I will say, if they want you to install a fuse in a fixture that, for the sel or del didn’t have a fuse, then their tube isn’t “universal” …
wonderful videos, how do you convert 8 fixtures with 3 fluorescent light bulbs on each and 1 pc of emergency ballast?
This video was very informative. But my question is how do you bypass the ballast for light fixtures that are daisy chained. I have two extra fixtures and the main one coming from the ceiling wiring. I’m having trouble trying to locate a video or understanding how to do this. All the Videos I’ve seen are for 1 fixture bypasses. Can you help me or attach a link to a video?? Thanks.
It's very challenging to troubleshoot these types of wiring situations without being there. One of the best place to start is with our form. It walks you through some of the most common issues. I believe it deals with daisy chained fixtures. You can find that guide here www.totalbulklighting.com/fast-fluorescent-to-led-t8-conversion-tool.html
very interesting
How can use plug & play t8 LED bulbs without ballast? How can I re-wiring to use plug & paly tube without ballast?
Thank u so much ☺️
You're very welcome 🙂
The universal A+B T8 looks like a good solution, but I only need 2 bulbs. Why is the minimum order qty 20?
unfortunately there are many variables that have impacted the sale of these amazing T8 LED tubes. One of the biggest issues is the amount of breakage in shipping on small orders. No matter how well we packaged these tubes the shipping company managed to break them over and over and over. Hopefully that helped shed some light on the question 🙂
@@Totallightingsupply Understood. Unfortunately for me, that means I will need to rewire the existing fixtures to use with type A or B LEDs.
Dear TLS, @15:30' the Shunted and Non-Shunted labeling is backward. But, thanks for the nice and educational videos.
You are correct the labeling for Non-Shunted and Shunted is backward 😬 Thank you for bringing this to our attention. We will update the video description help clarify the confusion 🙂
Do you have LED replacement tubes for circline fixtures?
We carry the linear LED T8 tubes you see in the video. Hope that helps 🙂
Will this retro fot work ondoubke ended led.bulbs
The Universal LED Tube that is Type-A+B should work on a double end powered retrofit fluorescent fixture.
Are the tombstones Shunted or non shunted.?
The universal T8 LED tube used in the video will work with both shunted and non-shunted tombstones. What's more important is how the fixture is wired. Always follow the wiring diagram when doing any retrofitting and installation.
Wattage: What would you say is the difference between a 5000k led bulb with 18w and a 20w 5000k led bulb in terms of brightness and electricity consumption?
I would find the lumens of each tube and divide the lumens by the watts the tube and see if you are gaining any lumen benefits from adding 2 more watts with the 20watt tube. Hope that helps 🙂
@@Totallightingsupply Thank you. I am looking for the most brightness at the most efficient energy consumption for 5000k temperature.
At 15.40 in your video you show a shunted tombstone and a non shunted tombstone, but you have labeled them wrongly, the one on the left is the shunted version and the one on the right is a non shunted version.
Thank you for the feedback! A fellow viewer brought it to our attention in the comments below and so we put a note in our video description to help. Wish RUclips had a way to annotate so we could put it right on the video 🙂
I have a 4 ft 2 ballast florescent fixture. From each ballast comes 2 red 2 blue 2 yellow. How do i rewire with no ballasts with double end bulbs. I have the ability for on and off from 2 different switches. Either one makes the entire light come on or off
This is called "three way switching". There are a number of ways this is wired, and we cannot explore all of them here. Best thing is to get your electrician on the job and in 10 minutes he will know where the hot and neutral wires are that come in the fixture and will be able to wire up your retrofit quick. As long as he knows that the bulbs are powered from each end, Hot (Black) on one and Neutral (White) on the other it will be easy. Your electrician will remove the ballasts and wire up your LED to work perfectly. Hope that helps 🙂
So if I have shunted tombstones and want to power the light single end power, do I need to change the tombstones on both ends of the fixture to non shunted or just the power end of the fixture to non shunted? Thanks
That is correct, for single end powered led T8 tubes you will need non-shunted tombstones on only the one side that is electrically connected. You can find non-shunted tombstones on our website here 👉 www.totalbulklighting.com/parts-accessories/non-shunted-tombstones-sockets.html
I am interested in your wire connectors (wire nut). Where can I get those?
You can find those wire connectors here ⬇
www.totalbulklighting.com/5-wire-push-in-wire-connector.html
Have a blessed day!
my fluorescent tubes are 47 inches long???
The standard is 48* but you maybe surprised how flexible your fixture is and it may accept standard length tubes 🙂
What about 4 tubes, with 2 ballasts?
We have a video for that! See our video here ruclips.net/video/bnaUhFCdFuI/видео.html - Also see our conversion tool that talks about different setups with dual ballast and what can be done here www.totalbulklighting.com/fast-fluorescent-to-led-t8-conversion-tool.html - Choose 4foot > Double end > Check the box on "I have more than one ballast. Show me more information on Dual Ballast Fluorescent Lights." Hope that helps!
Why are you playing that annoying Tinkerbell music in the background while you are talking