They even have alot of info on what to look for when buying land...make sure to check out the videos from Jeff on this, I did and I am so glad 😊 his info helped me buy the buck vacuuming land for my area ...lol
What I wouldn't give for those numbers. My long run forecast shows two days with rain chances around August 29th, then a few days the week of Sept 18th, then nothing again until October 19th, with an average first frost date of Oct 22.
you have by far changed my view and tactics with all of the information you put out, amazing and super helpful, thank you for sharing everything you do sir!
I got my soil tested. PH was 4.5 UGH! I only have two small plots at about 1/2 acre combined. I spread granulated lime by hand. Can you explain in a video the difference between granulated lime and powdered? Why does powdered take longer to work and last longer? I would assume it would be the opposite.
Watched some other channel the other day on a mix of seed blends. Totally contradicts your videos and I was thinking the whole time that these guys don't know what their talking about. So I was laughing my butt off when in the comments the first one said..(you guys need to watch WHS with Jeff Sturgis) lol Was awsome! Love you guys!
We have zero rain. Super dry! I’m just starting plots now so I’ll plant end of August and early September here in NY Hudson Valley. Great job. Thank you
@@whitetailhabitatsolutions9751 it definitely does I learned this lesson this late spring. In nys it's been very hot and dry. I tryed to plant oats for the most part it was a failure just not enough rain. This concept works for both spring and fall. (Plant into appreciable rain)........
I'm looking into weed control mid to late August and planting into September. It's just been way to hot and dry. You guys are spot on thanks for the constant videos keeping us in line with proper management
So I figured out why my brassica turned last year, I planted it with rye grain thanx Jeff! I'm glad I switched it up this year I greatly appreciate all your free wisdom and information brother!!!
what do you do if you've got buckwheat and got to get it knocked down before it reseeds itself but there's no rain in the forecast? Do you hold off and just deal some buckwheat seeds in your fall plots or spread your seed then knock down the buckwheat? I'm in northern Indiana. Thanks
Hi Troy! I really focus on having my buckwheat ready by late July and then watch about a 2 to 3 week window...early or late of that, for rain. That puts me planting at 4 week to 6.5 weeks old buckwheat. It may go to seed a bit which isn't bad. I think a LOT of folks plant way too early! For example good soil in central IN would be a late June planting on good soil. I hear of folks who already planted in MAY. If you watch that window tho, it will be a great range for the buckwheat and give you a lot of flexibility for rain. However I would wait if needed, even if that put me towards the 7 or 8 week window for growth. I would likely then smash, kill and broadcast when the tall buckwheat breaks down a bit. No sense trying to seed in 5' high buckwheat...
Thanks Jeff,not much for rain in weeks here near Detroit lakes MN,nothing in the 10day to speak of either. So its been muskie fishing rather than planting
Jim I'm sure that you have covered this before I'm just unable to find the information I have my Nebraska's in the ground if I need to top dress can I do it with a clover and not harm my brassicas
Planted 1 brassica plot this past Thursday after my corn field failed. Rain in forecast for 5 days couldn’t pass it up. Had some rain so far but just like the last 2 years it splits my area. Way behind this year on plotting because of getting shingles. I have been down for a month with the nerve pain. Never knew that it would be this bad. I recommend getting a vaccine to prevent them if you had chicken pox
Planted on Aug 1st. The same day late afternoon and evening got 3 inches of rain. It’s been raining in central Illinois 3 days in a row. Another 3 inches of rain. Do you think I’ll have to replant. Thanks.
Literally paused the video to double check my location north and south vs Lancaster OH. Lol I'm such a dork. Got my plot in on the 3rd. It rained 4 hours later and I've had some rain every day since. I hope the trend continues. Thanks again for the tips Jeff. I try to put into play as many tips as I can. I have 2 neighbors within a mile of my hunting area who also have nice food plots.
Love the plot videos ! TY 👍🏼Planting peas, tillage radish and buckwheat today... rain next two days. June buckwheat was complete failure from drought. Praying for enough rain throughout late summer 🤞
Jeff,did our due diligence in regards to weather. Planted on 7-30-22. Disked seed n and rolled it. Big rain came on 8-2-22. As of 8-6-22: great greenage coming up! As you said”know the future rain percentage”. We are having great fun with Your plan!🦌🦌
I even try to break the percentages for rain down to the hourly. I'm constantly looking at each day and the chance of rain morning, afternoon, and evening. It's a fun challenge to play the weather!
I planted last Thursday and have had rain nightly and spotty during the day with majority of days full of sunshine. I was knocking buckwheat down in a downpour I knew it wasn’t going to last so kept going. I hope it wasn’t a bad move to get the seed down with four days of mixed rain in the forecast. As I’m in WV. Crossing my fingers this is the first try at a plot. Low in the learning curve already making notes of things to change. Hoping I don’t have to repurchase seed lol due to it drowning
Great stuff jeff! This year was the first time in several years we planted our plots and got over an inch of rain with 20hrs of planting. I planted earlier than i wanted but 7/28 in mid Michigan shouldn’t be to bad…
@@whitetailhabitatsolutions9751 planted clover over my clover plot, and brassica, rapeseed, rutabaga july 30 jeff, planting the rest wednesday all in gaylord...
I agree with waiting on the rain. I’ve lost a couple brassica plots sowing the seeds because I had time and no rain for weeks. This year it won’t happen, my soil is ready for seeds and when I see heavy rain in the forecast I’m seeding. I don’t care if I have to take a day off of work
He’s totally right about mixing the winter rye and brassicas a couple years ago we had a really dry August here in Pennsylvania and I could plant anything till like Labor Day so I tried seeding my winter rye and brassica together and it choked the brassica none of them got more than 4 inches or so while the rye did fine
Yesterday was the big day- I went down to find out my Gly was only partially successful. (faucet water? Hose water?)(neutralized??). So I sprayed, mowed, sprayed again, seeded,applied Plot Start and then the rain started. Couple days, almost 3 inches. My HD screening is 5 foot tall and is doing it’s job. It’s weird to switch from anticipation to worried. Thanks for everything! I may pull this off! I owe any success I have to WHS and what you’ve taught on this channel. Thank you-
I was trying to plant this week, but the rain forecast for rain is horrible. Looks like we're waiting another week or two to plant. Is it better to wait or build a portable watering system to not have to worry about rain. I only have 3 separate acre plots that are relatively easy to access.
One of the toughest things for land managers is learning patience, planting and hunting wise. Timely video with a good guide for those of use eagerly waiting for our planting date (rain!).
@Paul rain was forecasted from 70% to 90% for most of last week. I planted the day before the forecasted rain thinking for sure with 4 out of six days of rain almost inevitable, it actually would. But it never came. I added more seed yesterday as there are three days this week at above 70% chance of more than one inch of rain. I’ve been doing the rain dance since late May…I just wore my legs out lol. It’s frustrating seeing rain all around my property, even within a couple miles, only to totally miss my area. I need to rethink how I’ll tackle dry conditions moving forward. I can’t afford to spend so much time and effort just to see it all fail because of lack of rain. Hope you get some rain soon! Good luck!
Great schedule helper. In Southern Michigan fertilized, planted and sprayed 2 plots of brassicas with 0.75" to 1.0" inches of rain predicted tonight and tomorrow. Could be a good fall!
We did the same Mike.....although we're near West Branch (northern lower peninsula). We were expecting a lot of rain starting yesterday (Sunday) morning, but we only got one 15 minute rain shower. Sometimes I feel like we have a bubble over our area that keeps the rain away...lol! It looks like today (Monday) is going to make up for yesterday's fail. Based on what I see on the radar, I think any of us in Michigan that just recently planted should be in good shape!
@@edhondt Ed, Thanks for the comment. I checked the rain this morning in Hillsdale Co. and they got about an inch. Hopefully it didn't wash things out. Good Luck to you this year. I will plant my beans, peas and oats later in August. I'll have to fertilize, then disc up the other two plots lightly, cultipack them and hope my timing is right ahead of rain.
Want to thank you for what you’ve done over the years! Just planted my first plot with a brassica blend. I’m just south of Rochester Mn, planted just before that lightening show. Had a slight malfunction in my handheld spreader, over seeding a portion of the plot. Live and learn. Good luck this season!
Same. First plot. Near Cooperstown NY. 1/2 brassica 1/2 greens. Rye top dress in September. Basically watched all videos carefully and took notes. Read two of Jeff’s books also. And got the same equipment. After all that the spreader was tricky to say the least. Good luck!
I planted this past week, Monday- thursday, were expecting rain starting tomorrow-wedensday. up here in Maine you think i may have still been too early?
Any suggestions for failed plot. Just went and looked one is all buckwheat and ready for replant the other failed and is all weeds can I save it for fall?
I do like the beans and oats in the northwoods blend. But if I wanted to add the tillage radish to it how much should I add to the mix and how much should I cut down on the green blend to compensate?
Hi Jon, what I would do is add 50#s of peas to that mix, then add 5 #s of tillage radish. The oats really don't add much unless planted later...but then that's too late for the beans and peas. You don't want to ever have more than around 20#s of oats per acre if planted early at the same time that brassica should be planted
In Middle Georgia, I will not be planting until the first or second week of September from experience!!! It was very hard for years to be out planting during the first two weeks of bow season!!!! I felt I should have been hunting instead
I planted red and white clover and chicory super heavy last week in July and got two good rains on it so far and have more on the way for several days tomorrow. I’m stuck on vacation so I can’t get home to do more and that’s probably a good thing.
Planted my brassicas in late July already (we had some lovely rain). I have some nice tops going. I've noticed that the deer don't really go after my brassicas until really late and this gives me larger bulbs for when the snow is blowing. We have so many soy fields around, deer aren't wanting for much right now. It's fun to watch the deer stick their faces down through a foot of snow to dig out a softball sized turnip in January. I'll do a winter rye plot in mid September too.
Worst rain I've seen in Northern NJ in years. I planted last weekend because the forecast looked great for the past week. Had 75% rain days and it all missed us!! Problem solved! Ran to harbor freight and picked up an irrigation pump and been sucking the trickling water out of this tiny creak behind my plot. It was allot of work to get it done but I'm tired of stressing out over rain and the weatherman always getting it wrong. Storms been all around us but keeps missing me. No more of this crap lol
Hey fellas! I didn’t get the opportunity to spread seed Over the weekend…got a nice amount of rain though! So I think I’ll kill my few strips of remaining weeds, and plant this Saturday with rain coming the following Tuesday 🤙 I spread an old bag of sunflower 🌻 seeds around my field in front of screening blend about a month ago! They are doing well! Can’t wait to see if I actually get blooms.
Give some additional TX OK AR advice when you can. Keep up the good work. Owned 426 acres for 18 months and followed step 1-3 so far of new land, new food plots. Obviously we adjust our “timing” to extreme south zone but would like some additional “south” advice moving forward. Thanks
I planted one week earlier than I'd planned to last year. We had a 60 to 80 percent chance of rain for 5 days straight. I couldn't pass up that opportunity. Food plot turned out great.
Funny you used Lancaster. We own property an 45 minutes south of there and have to plant this weekend. I guess you'll see in person how it works out. Your scheduled to be on our 80 Sept. 8th
Planted you fall power greens in my food plot just about 2 weeks ago 2 days before expected rain. Since then we’ve been in the mid-upper 70’s and the rain seems to have missed my southern MI zip code. We again expect some rain this weekend but how do i know if my seed is still viable? I ordered and received another 25lb bag of fall power greens today. Do I plant them and risk over seeding? Or save them for next year? this is a .3 Acre hunting plot that has been soil tested, fertilized, plot started (liquid lime), and seeded. Can you give me any advice? Thanks.
Jeff, to answer your question from the last video, I’m in Mineral County WV. I learned from last year that planting late August is too late for my property. At en elevation of 2,200 feet, out first frost is early October and first freeze is mid to late October. So planting as close to August 1 is paramount. The soil is light, which just exaggerates the dry conditions. My hope was to have buckwheat knee high to roll down to help with moisture, but it failed due to the drought. I’ve researched switch and it looks like Dakotah is the best variety to handle the driest conditions. I dressed over the brassicas yesterday as rain is forecasted for early week, so praying it comes to fruition. If all else fails, do you think rye around Labor Day would be a good idea? I’m out of options for this season if the rain doesn’t come this week. As you say, the plots might only be a 3 or 4, but it would be better than the 1 or 2 in the surrounding areas.
How much rain in the forecast is too much. I am in N.B. Canada and things are unusually dry. However we have 52 to 79 cms coming in the next 5 days. If I am planting oats and white clover will they rot? Thanks in advance, big fan of your shows.
Great info as always Jeff!! Can I plant my fall greens at the same time as the brassica if I do what you suggest which is to plant 1/2 my plots with greens and on the other half plant straight brassica? Thanks and keep the great content coming!
How long are seeds good for before you plant? How soon should I look at buying my seeds for the season, including switch grass for spring frost seeding?
@@MIcruiserGUY not sure but I just used some leftover seed from last year along with new stuff. Seed should still be viable but I'd assume that germination rates may decrease slightly
I've been using your experience and videos as my guide this year in the far eastern u.p. its a challenge. High predator counts, very few deer, and lots of wild land between me and the saint marys river. Thank you Jeff, for giving me a path forward.
Thanks for another great video Jeff!! I am in SW MO and we had an extreme drought this summer (still kind of in it). Had a stretch of several days of 50-80% chance of rain so I planted. We were supposed to get 2-3 inches over the 3 days. We ended up with.25 inches of rain. I added some water to it with my hillbilly water machine (food grade tote and a water pump and hose). 6 days after planting we finally got the 2.5 inches of rain. Started to see some sprouting yesterday but the soil is once again drying out. I will add some more water today and thru this week as we are still continuing to stay hot and only supposed to get a 1/2 inch of rain. Hopefully that will get me thru. Planning on looking at first part of September for a good chance of rain to plant my cereal rye and winter wheat. Had a few weeds left in those areas so I sprayed them again and should be almost weed free!! Looking forward to your planting timing video that is coming up. Thanks again for all the great info!!!
Hey Jeff thanks 👍 for all you guys do for us I do have a question are you layering rye over your green's or on their own plots 4 to 5 weeks later thanks again
Hi Jeff, opened up my first food plot this year and planting as you advise with tillage radish and brassica for the first year. I'm opening two more next year. Should those two be planted tillage radish and brassica, while the other one would now go to one side green blend and other side brassica? Hope this makes sense, as I know you mention all plots should contain same type of food.
You could probably get by with a light oats and peas (maybe buckwheat too) green blend and other half brassica if you have a cultipacker. Tillage raddish on both halves and then follow up with rye on non brassica side 3-5 weeks later
Good morning Jeff! Getting good rains here in Wisconsin this weekend and over by you in Minnesota by the looks of it. Quick question, do you have any experience planting a grain sorghum for deer as an alternative to corn for a late season food source? Cheaper and easier to put in than corn. I’m trying some this year to see how it works in my area in northern Wisconsin. Thanks for the insight!
I planted some sorguhm two years ago in southeast Mn. It was easy to plant and came up good but the deer never touched it that I had seen. Even in the late season. But you never know your deer might eat it
Jeff, have been using the no till method for two years and have been seeing great success. Question: Can or should I plant winter rye with my brassica plots 5-6 weeks later? Or is this only done if I have wholes or plot doesn’t take? I know that you can do this with just radishes, correct? Thank you. Central Wisconsin get some great rain and weather for plots.
Spray first with GLY and 2-4D, give it a 2-3 weeks then plow/plant. You'll have better luck even though you may unearth a few weed seeds when planting.
I'm going to go out on a limb and say no! He has over 15acres of plots in MN and is a very busy guy! If they were to drought out, heavy layered rye will be his backup plan right @Whitetail Habitat Solutions
@@alexpinnow6509 my buckwheat in Northern MI this year dried up and turned to dust because of the drought conditions, also no way to really water it because I cannot drive over it with sprayer once it sprouts and I cant access both sides of it to water with sprayer wand.
I have had this issue and find success just carrying forward with the seed/cultipack/spray combo. If it's unruly high(4'+) pack down and then seed the brassicas.
Sprayed my buckwheat yesterday at time of planting. No access to cultipacker. Fair amount of weeds in the buckwheat. Can I spray 2-4 days later and still not hurt the seed on the ground??? Good 1+ inch of rain today.
@@whitetailhabitatsolutions9751 well my 40 acres of land is an hour away from where I live but the forecast said it was supposed to rain yesterday and today, hopefully it did.
Great information Jeff thanks, as always, its a shot in the dark. I was watching the weather and they predicted 80% chance of rain two days after my target plant date and 60% the day after that so I proceeded to plant my plots. The next day that 80% went 40% and the day after that went to 20%. Not really surprised by that but what I find so laughable is all the talk we hear about climate change predictions, yet with the all the scientific instrumentation and weather models they have to review, flipping a coin would be just as accurate😊.
Planted Saturday and rain started a few minutes after I got on the road around 9pm!
Thanks I got my seeds spread!
Hello thanks for the content
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I got 1/2 acre of brassica, 1/2 acre beans, peas, oats, buckwheat seeded Saturday before big rain
Northern Michigan, Wexford County deer country.
Yes sir
Got planted on 8/7 and had periodic showers that night. Better start than last year for sure!
I watch all of these videos and I have no land. No field to practice on. I just love the knowledge lol maybe one day I’ll have my own land
Man I appreciate you watching but most importantly I hope you get some land to lease or own you can plant in so.r day! Thank you very much
They even have alot of info on what to look for when buying land...make sure to check out the videos from Jeff on this, I did and I am so glad 😊 his info helped me buy the buck vacuuming land for my area ...lol
Got my weeds killed,there talking rain sat.n sun.going to put in radishes n brassica tomorrow fri.the 12th.50 miles north of Detroit.
What I wouldn't give for those numbers. My long run forecast shows two days with rain chances around August 29th, then a few days the week of Sept 18th, then nothing again until October 19th, with an average first frost date of Oct 22.
you have by far changed my view and tactics with all of the information you put out, amazing and super helpful, thank you for sharing everything you do sir!
Him death by bungie and deer and deer hunting and whitetail research institute are top 5 of all time
I got my soil tested. PH was 4.5 UGH! I only have two small plots at about 1/2 acre combined. I spread granulated lime by hand. Can you explain in a video the difference between granulated lime and powdered? Why does powdered take longer to work and last longer? I would assume it would be the opposite.
Hit it perfect yesterday. 1.5” of rain last night..
Watched some other channel the other day on a mix of seed blends.
Totally contradicts your videos and I was thinking the whole time that these guys don't know what their talking about. So I was laughing my butt off when in the comments the first one said..(you guys need to watch WHS with Jeff Sturgis) lol
Was awsome! Love you guys!
Does it matter as much when you seed into buckwheat as u mentioned after its pavked down over the seedit hadlots of moisture till it rains.
Ty
We have zero rain. Super dry! I’m just starting plots now so I’ll plant end of August and early September here in NY Hudson Valley. Great job. Thank you
Spray tall grass/weeds first or brush hog low then spray? Wait then till and seed.
What's the planting time frame for Georgia ?
Am I already too late
Hello Jeff, question. Is it ok to broadcast the fertilizer early, and wait for the rain in a week?
When do you put out your ghillie blinds Jeff?
Great info on planting time. It's better to wait for rain then plant on a specific time.
Amen to that...so, so true...and critical! Thanks a lot I hope it helps!
@@whitetailhabitatsolutions9751 it definitely does I learned this lesson this late spring. In nys it's been very hot and dry. I tryed to plant oats for the most part it was a failure just not enough rain. This concept works for both spring and fall. (Plant into appreciable rain)........
I'm looking into weed control mid to late August and planting into September. It's just been way to hot and dry. You guys are spot on thanks for the constant videos keeping us in line with proper management
So I figured out why my brassica turned last year, I planted it with rye grain thanx Jeff! I'm glad I switched it up this year I greatly appreciate all your free wisdom and information brother!!!
what do you do if you've got buckwheat and got to get it knocked down before it reseeds itself but there's no rain in the forecast? Do you hold off and just deal some buckwheat seeds in your fall plots or spread your seed then knock down the buckwheat? I'm in northern Indiana. Thanks
Hi Troy! I really focus on having my buckwheat ready by late July and then watch about a 2 to 3 week window...early or late of that, for rain. That puts me planting at 4 week to 6.5 weeks old buckwheat. It may go to seed a bit which isn't bad.
I think a LOT of folks plant way too early! For example good soil in central IN would be a late June planting on good soil. I hear of folks who already planted in MAY.
If you watch that window tho, it will be a great range for the buckwheat and give you a lot of flexibility for rain. However I would wait if needed, even if that put me towards the 7 or 8 week window for growth. I would likely then smash, kill and broadcast when the tall buckwheat breaks down a bit. No sense trying to seed in 5' high buckwheat...
Thanks Jeff,not much for rain in weeks here near Detroit lakes MN,nothing in the 10day to speak of either. So its been muskie fishing rather than planting
Ha, I like that Greg...sounds like a smart choice 😊
I think I stayed at the “Pine De Palm”?
Jim I'm sure that you have covered this before I'm just unable to find the information I have my Nebraska's in the ground if I need to top dress can I do it with a clover and not harm my brassicas
That may work if brassicas are really spotty, plan on the clover being more of a spring growth than fall though
Planted 1 brassica plot this past Thursday after my corn field failed. Rain in forecast for 5 days couldn’t pass it up. Had some rain so far but just like the last 2 years it splits my area. Way behind this year on plotting because of getting shingles. I have been down for a month with the nerve pain. Never knew that it would be this bad. I recommend getting a vaccine to prevent them if you had chicken pox
I had shingles at the age of 23 and I couldn't agree more!! Worst pain of my life
It’s a vaccine that actually works! Prayers for you!
Greetings from SW Iowa. It's been so dry here I'm planning on planting as soon as I see any rain. So far looks pretty dry in the forcast.
In southern Michigan/Indiana border is it to late to try a no till?
Just planted first plot. Doing a rain dance
Planted on Aug 1st. The same day late afternoon and evening got 3 inches of rain. It’s been raining in central Illinois 3 days in a row. Another 3 inches of rain. Do you think I’ll have to replant. Thanks.
Great video Jeff👌🏾
You have helped me out a lot, even in my garden with cover crops. Thank you!
That's great shaun...enjoy that garden! Really love to hear it 😊
Hahaha, last night, up in Amberg WI. We had about .25 inch of rain 🌧 but today the whole state pretty much got wet
This might be the best vedio you've ever made
Being in N.C. I’ve still got plenty of time
Literally paused the video to double check my location north and south vs Lancaster OH. Lol I'm such a dork. Got my plot in on the 3rd. It rained 4 hours later and I've had some rain every day since. I hope the trend continues. Thanks again for the tips Jeff.
I try to put into play as many tips as I can. I have 2 neighbors within a mile of my hunting area who also have nice food plots.
Haha, love it! Hope youbhad great rains and the plot grows very well for you Philip!
Love the plot videos ! TY 👍🏼Planting peas, tillage radish and buckwheat today... rain next two days. June buckwheat was complete failure from drought.
Praying for enough rain throughout late summer 🤞
Sorry for the drought- 😤 I hope you’re getting soaked!
@@kurtpearson2793 thanks man !
Same thing happened in Southern Michigan, buckwheat bust
Lancaster Ohio aka meth valley 🤣🤣
Haha...good to know!!
@@whitetailhabitatsolutions9751 great video! Always looking forward for the next one!
Jeff,did our due diligence in regards to weather. Planted on 7-30-22. Disked seed n and rolled it. Big rain came on 8-2-22. As of 8-6-22: great greenage coming up! As you said”know the future rain percentage”. We are having great fun with Your plan!🦌🦌
I even try to break the percentages for rain down to the hourly. I'm constantly looking at each day and the chance of rain morning, afternoon, and evening. It's a fun challenge to play the weather!
@text-5421 You're welcome!
I planted last Thursday and have had rain nightly and spotty during the day with majority of days full of sunshine. I was knocking buckwheat down in a downpour I knew it wasn’t going to last so kept going.
I hope it wasn’t a bad move to get the seed down with four days of mixed rain in the forecast. As I’m in WV.
Crossing my fingers this is the first try at a plot. Low in the learning curve already making notes of things to change. Hoping I don’t have to repurchase seed lol due to it drowning
Well watching the video hope planting in Thursday in WV almost 3-3.5 weeks early doesn’t cause my plot to fail now.
Jeff just got my WHS hat in the mail and I love it! If and when you come out with WHS hunting gear/camo I’ll be WHS head to toe.
Thank you Jeff!
Nice Alex I love to hear that!! Really appreciate it 😊
I planted a small kill plot about a week and a half or so ago. I hope it grows well and is a good attraction this year.
Great stuff jeff! This year was the first time in several years we planted our plots and got over an inch of rain with 20hrs of planting. I planted earlier than i wanted but 7/28 in mid Michigan shouldn’t be to bad…
I think that should be good Brad...I was out in that rain 😊
@@whitetailhabitatsolutions9751 planted clover over my clover plot, and brassica, rapeseed, rutabaga july 30 jeff, planting the rest wednesday all in gaylord...
I agree with waiting on the rain. I’ve lost a couple brassica plots sowing the seeds because I had time and no rain for weeks. This year it won’t happen, my soil is ready for seeds and when I see heavy rain in the forecast I’m seeding. I don’t care if I have to take a day off of work
Do you recommend broadcasting fertilizer on your brassicas when you broadcast your grains.
He’s totally right about mixing the winter rye and brassicas a couple years ago we had a really dry August here in Pennsylvania and I could plant anything till like Labor Day so I tried seeding my winter rye and brassica together and it choked the brassica none of them got more than 4 inches or so while the rye did fine
Yesterday was the big day- I went down to find out my Gly was only partially successful. (faucet water? Hose water?)(neutralized??). So I sprayed, mowed, sprayed again, seeded,applied Plot Start and then the rain started. Couple days, almost 3 inches. My HD screening is 5 foot tall and is doing it’s job.
It’s weird to switch from anticipation to worried.
Thanks for everything! I may pull this off! I owe any success I have to WHS and what you’ve taught on this channel.
Thank you-
Awesome Kurt 👍🏼
I was trying to plant this week, but the rain forecast for rain is horrible. Looks like we're waiting another week or two to plant. Is it better to wait or build a portable watering system to not have to worry about rain. I only have 3 separate acre plots that are relatively easy to access.
One of the toughest things for land managers is learning patience, planting and hunting wise. Timely video with a good guide for those of use eagerly waiting for our planting date (rain!).
RAIN...hope you get it soon Paul 😊
@@whitetailhabitatsolutions9751 I'm about to bust out the rain dance here soon.
@Paul rain was forecasted from 70% to 90% for most of last week. I planted the day before the forecasted rain thinking for sure with 4 out of six days of rain almost inevitable, it actually would. But it never came. I added more seed yesterday as there are three days this week at above 70% chance of more than one inch of rain. I’ve been doing the rain dance since late May…I just wore my legs out lol. It’s frustrating seeing rain all around my property, even within a couple miles, only to totally miss my area. I need to rethink how I’ll tackle dry conditions moving forward. I can’t afford to spend so much time and effort just to see it all fail because of lack of rain. Hope you get some rain soon! Good luck!
Just planted last weekend and this weekend, have had good rain in north Michigan
Great schedule helper. In Southern Michigan fertilized, planted and sprayed 2 plots of brassicas with 0.75" to 1.0" inches of rain predicted tonight and tomorrow. Could be a good fall!
Nice Mike...good luck!! Sounds really nice...
We did the same Mike.....although we're near West Branch (northern lower peninsula). We were expecting a lot of rain starting yesterday (Sunday) morning, but we only got one 15 minute rain shower. Sometimes I feel like we have a bubble over our area that keeps the rain away...lol! It looks like today (Monday) is going to make up for yesterday's fail. Based on what I see on the radar, I think any of us in Michigan that just recently planted should be in good shape!
@@edhondt Ed, Thanks for the comment. I checked the rain this morning in Hillsdale Co. and they got about an inch. Hopefully it didn't wash things out. Good Luck to you this year. I will plant my beans, peas and oats later in August. I'll have to fertilize, then disc up the other two plots lightly, cultipack them and hope my timing is right ahead of rain.
Want to thank you for what you’ve done over the years! Just planted my first plot with a brassica blend. I’m just south of Rochester Mn, planted just before that lightening show. Had a slight malfunction in my handheld spreader, over seeding a portion of the plot. Live and learn. Good luck this season!
Same. First plot. Near Cooperstown NY. 1/2 brassica 1/2 greens. Rye top dress in September. Basically watched all videos carefully and took notes. Read two of Jeff’s books also. And got the same equipment. After all that the spreader was tricky to say the least. Good luck!
I planted this past week, Monday- thursday, were expecting rain starting tomorrow-wedensday. up here in Maine you think i may have still been too early?
Any suggestions for failed plot. Just went and looked one is all buckwheat and ready for replant the other failed and is all weeds can I save it for fall?
I do like the beans and oats in the northwoods blend. But if I wanted to add the tillage radish to it how much should I add to the mix and how much should I cut down on the green blend to compensate?
Hi Jon, what I would do is add 50#s of peas to that mix, then add 5 #s of tillage radish. The oats really don't add much unless planted later...but then that's too late for the beans and peas. You don't want to ever have more than around 20#s of oats per acre if planted early at the same time that brassica should be planted
After I spray my weeds, do I remove the dead vegetation before planting?
No it will break down
In Middle Georgia, I will not be planting until the first or second week of September from experience!!! It was very hard for years to be out planting during the first two weeks of bow season!!!! I felt I should have been hunting instead
Amen to that!
I planted red and white clover and chicory super heavy last week in July and got two good rains on it so far and have more on the way for several days tomorrow. I’m stuck on vacation so I can’t get home to do more and that’s probably a good thing.
Planted my brassicas in late July already (we had some lovely rain). I have some nice tops going. I've noticed that the deer don't really go after my brassicas until really late and this gives me larger bulbs for when the snow is blowing. We have so many soy fields around, deer aren't wanting for much right now. It's fun to watch the deer stick their faces down through a foot of snow to dig out a softball sized turnip in January.
I'll do a winter rye plot in mid September too.
Had a fresh 8 inches during muzzleloader. They do that for sure. Just see the back of there ears ! 😃
Worst rain I've seen in Northern NJ in years. I planted last weekend because the forecast looked great for the past week. Had 75% rain days and it all missed us!! Problem solved! Ran to harbor freight and picked up an irrigation pump and been sucking the trickling water out of this tiny creak behind my plot. It was allot of work to get it done but I'm tired of stressing out over rain and the weatherman always getting it wrong. Storms been all around us but keeps missing me. No more of this crap lol
Now thats sine hard work...great job Jeff! Hard work shall be rewarded...
Hey fellas! I didn’t get the opportunity to spread seed Over the weekend…got a nice amount of rain though! So I think I’ll kill my few strips of remaining weeds, and plant this Saturday with rain coming the following Tuesday 🤙 I spread an old bag of sunflower 🌻 seeds around my field in front of screening blend about a month ago! They are doing well! Can’t wait to see if I actually get blooms.
Hi Jeff, I know the time to lime is anytime, but do we fertilize prior/when/after we plant?
Hi Greg I fertilizer when I plant, and then add 75#s of Urea 4 to 5 weeks after for brassicas
Give some additional TX OK AR advice when you can. Keep up the good work. Owned 426 acres for 18 months and followed step 1-3 so far of new land, new food plots. Obviously we adjust our “timing” to extreme south zone but would like some additional “south” advice moving forward. Thanks
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I planted one week earlier than I'd planned to last year. We had a 60 to 80 percent chance of rain for 5 days straight. I couldn't pass up that opportunity. Food plot turned out great.
Funny you used Lancaster. We own property an 45 minutes south of there and have to plant this weekend. I guess you'll see in person how it works out. Your scheduled to be on our 80 Sept. 8th
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Planted you fall power greens in my food plot just about 2 weeks ago 2 days before expected rain. Since then we’ve been in the mid-upper 70’s and the rain seems to have missed my southern MI zip code. We again expect some rain this weekend but how do i know if my seed is still viable? I ordered and received another 25lb bag of fall power greens today. Do I plant them and risk over seeding? Or save them for next year? this is a .3 Acre hunting plot that has been soil tested, fertilized, plot started (liquid lime), and seeded. Can you give me any advice? Thanks.
Just to be clear, we have got zero rain since i spread the seed (no till) and compacted with roller.
Jeff, to answer your question from the last video, I’m in Mineral County WV. I learned from last year that planting late August is too late for my property. At en elevation of 2,200 feet, out first frost is early October and first freeze is mid to late October. So planting as close to August 1 is paramount. The soil is light, which just exaggerates the dry conditions. My hope was to have buckwheat knee high to roll down to help with moisture, but it failed due to the drought. I’ve researched switch and it looks like Dakotah is the best variety to handle the driest conditions. I dressed over the brassicas yesterday as rain is forecasted for early week, so praying it comes to fruition. If all else fails, do you think rye around Labor Day would be a good idea? I’m out of options for this season if the rain doesn’t come this week. As you say, the plots might only be a 3 or 4, but it would be better than the 1 or 2 in the surrounding areas.
Just got my much needed rain!!...good luck food plotting everyone!!
Good luck to you Brad 😊
Thanks and good luck to you as well 🌾🦌
How much rain in the forecast is too much. I am in N.B. Canada and things are unusually dry. However we have 52 to 79 cms coming in the next 5 days. If I am planting oats and white clover will they rot? Thanks in advance, big fan of your shows.
Great info as always Jeff!! Can I plant my fall greens at the same time as the brassica if I do what you suggest which is to plant 1/2 my plots with greens and on the other half plant straight brassica? Thanks and keep the great content coming!
Yes you want to plant them at the same time! Save the rye only for 3-5 weeks after
How long are seeds good for before you plant? How soon should I look at buying my seeds for the season, including switch grass for spring frost seeding?
Switchgrass will last over a year on the shelf
@@alexpinnow6509 how about seeds for the food plot itself? About the same?
@@MIcruiserGUY not sure but I just used some leftover seed from last year along with new stuff. Seed should still be viable but I'd assume that germination rates may decrease slightly
Planted 2 acres of brassicas yesterday, got rained on last night!!!! Hopefully it turns out. Thanks for the info! Good luck this year!!
Awesome Justin, good luck to you!! Great timing for you too 😊
I’m going out around noon today to do the same thing.
I've been using your experience and videos as my guide this year in the far eastern u.p. its a challenge. High predator counts, very few deer, and lots of wild land between me and the saint marys river. Thank you Jeff, for giving me a path forward.
Thanks for another great video Jeff!! I am in SW MO and we had an extreme drought this summer (still kind of in it). Had a stretch of several days of 50-80% chance of rain so I planted. We were supposed to get 2-3 inches over the 3 days. We ended up with.25 inches of rain. I added some water to it with my hillbilly water machine (food grade tote and a water pump and hose). 6 days after planting we finally got the 2.5 inches of rain. Started to see some sprouting yesterday but the soil is once again drying out. I will add some more water today and thru this week as we are still continuing to stay hot and only supposed to get a 1/2 inch of rain. Hopefully that will get me thru. Planning on looking at first part of September for a good chance of rain to plant my cereal rye and winter wheat. Had a few weeds left in those areas so I sprayed them again and should be almost weed free!! Looking forward to your planting timing video that is coming up. Thanks again for all the great info!!!
I live in the south want start planting my food plot around September the 25 around here.the South oz dothon Alabama
I think you should sell merchandise that says
"The bottom line is..." for how much you say it in your videos lol.
Deer feed 5 times a day lol
@@bowman8316 research I read states 5 times during the summer, when eating nuts and twigs in fall every 7 hours
Hey Jeff thanks 👍 for all you guys do for us I do have a question are you layering rye over your green's or on their own plots 4 to 5 weeks later thanks again
Layer rye over green (non brassica) plot
Hi Jeff, opened up my first food plot this year and planting as you advise with tillage radish and brassica for the first year. I'm opening two more next year. Should those two be planted tillage radish and brassica, while the other one would now go to one side green blend and other side brassica? Hope this makes sense, as I know you mention all plots should contain same type of food.
That’s my plan👍 start with the radish/brassica and switch new year to the green blend, while adding more area and new rad/bras.
You could probably get by with a light oats and peas (maybe buckwheat too) green blend and other half brassica if you have a cultipacker. Tillage raddish on both halves and then follow up with rye on non brassica side 3-5 weeks later
Good morning Jeff! Getting good rains here in Wisconsin this weekend and over by you in Minnesota by the looks of it. Quick question, do you have any experience planting a grain sorghum for deer as an alternative to corn for a late season food source? Cheaper and easier to put in than corn. I’m trying some this year to see how it works in my area in northern Wisconsin. Thanks for the insight!
I planted some sorguhm two years ago in southeast Mn. It was easy to plant and came up good but the deer never touched it that I had seen. Even in the late season. But you never know your deer might eat it
Jeff, have been using the no till method for two years and have been seeing great success. Question: Can or should I plant winter rye with my brassica plots 5-6 weeks later? Or is this only done if I have wholes or plot doesn’t take? I know that you can do this with just radishes, correct? Thank you. Central Wisconsin get some great rain and weather for plots.
Don't put rye in with brassicas unless it's failed
What if you plow first what do you do about weeds when I only have a weekend? I live in north Carolina and hunt in ky.
Spray first with GLY and 2-4D, give it a 2-3 weeks then plow/plant. You'll have better luck even though you may unearth a few weed seeds when planting.
One thing I never hear you talk about is watering, do you ever fill your sprayer with water and just water them in a drought ?
I'm going to go out on a limb and say no! He has over 15acres of plots in MN and is a very busy guy! If they were to drought out, heavy layered rye will be his backup plan right @Whitetail Habitat Solutions
@@alexpinnow6509 my buckwheat in Northern MI this year dried up and turned to dust because of the drought conditions, also no way to really water it because I cannot drive over it with sprayer once it sprouts and I cant access both sides of it to water with sprayer wand.
Need some help. Buckwheat plot taken over by foxtail. Can I still plant brassicas into it and crush/spray or should I mow, burn it off, and till?
I have had this issue and find success just carrying forward with the seed/cultipack/spray combo. If it's unruly high(4'+) pack down and then seed the brassicas.
My food plots growing pretty good! Can't wait for this season! Getting some self filming gear, really excited! Thanks Jeff!
That's awesome Isaac!! Enjoy it all 😊
Sprayed my buckwheat yesterday at time of planting. No access to cultipacker. Fair amount of weeds in the buckwheat. Can I spray 2-4 days later and still not hurt the seed on the ground??? Good 1+ inch of rain today.
Son of a B****, wish this video came out Thursday so I wouldn't have planted Friday lol
Ha, hopefully not TOO early 😬
@@whitetailhabitatsolutions9751 well my 40 acres of land is an hour away from where I live but the forecast said it was supposed to rain yesterday and today, hopefully it did.
Great information Jeff thanks, as always, its a shot in the dark. I was watching the weather and they predicted 80% chance of rain two days after my target plant date and 60% the day after that so I proceeded to plant my plots. The next day that 80% went 40% and the day after that went to 20%. Not really surprised by that but what I find so laughable is all the talk we hear about climate change predictions, yet with the all the scientific instrumentation and weather models they have to review, flipping a coin would be just as accurate😊.
My land sucks. 80 acres of crap so thick it’s hard to walk through. 9 cams. No buck pics over a fork. Terrible. Seems like a waste of time and money