Thank you. Your real world tests (vs lab tests of other reviewers) shine a much brighter light on expected performance for these machines. Human hair build up is the #1 issue I have with my "old" S6 MaxV, and no Roborock model seems to have effectively solved the issue yet...though I am quite curious if the Curve can finally address this maintenance headache. Excited for your review!
Yea and throwing clumps of hair on the floor is just no where near the same. Thankfully I have 2 long hair girls and 3 cats so I have plenty of real world testing! So far the Dreame Tricut brush works wonders and so does the one in the Narwal Freo models. I'll have my review of the Curv out soon.
I was able to purchase an X30 Ultra for $690 Refurbed with 2 year warranty from dreame on ebay, but then I found the Qrevo master for $850 new with some coupon stacking, only 1 year warranty though. Wondering if you have any opinion between these 2 if the Qrevo Master is worth another $160?
@@jamie.andrews I have mine set up currently the refurbed x30 and it’s working flawlessly looked new I’m almost curious if it is brand new. Minus the refurbed part, do you think the QRevo Master is the better option?
@@VALORANTProtatomonster You may have gotten lucky. I'd keep it as long as you don't see any issues pop up. Mainly those are with the removal of the mopping pads, dock plumbing and also very important to make sure that water is coming out of the robot. Mine stopped pumping water out of the robot onto the pads. Quality issues are the only real issues with Dreame.
@@jamie.andrews in comparison to that QRevo master would you recommend it over? I mostly want good mopping. I feel as if the vacuuming will be sufficient on both for tile floors with only one rug in the home.
I ordered a S8 maxv ultra with anniversary sale and military discount. Suffice to say the amount of competition out there is fierce and I only went s8 since it was heavily discounted against eufy s1 pro and dreame x40….
Great video. I still think I prefer the Curv. Robo vacs today almost have enough features to satisfy my fussy requirements to buy a new replacement vac, however I still have no money to buy one. 😂 Other features I'd like to see is better navigation, an air purifier/humidifier/dehumidifier inbuilt to the dock, & something to clean baseboards like the duster on the Narwal Freo Z ultra.
@@jamie.andrews how is it compared to the maxV? That got a great improve w the firmware update. So it's to understand if it's par now with it or it could become even better in the future. Many thanks
The self-cleaning dock is still kind of an odd choice to me. Do you find it reduces or increases maintenance compared to the original Qrevo? It seems you still have to clean the base. But now you have two pieces that need to be cleaned and more moving parts! Hopefully that bottom of the top part doesn't need to be cleaned because it looks like it has lots of small crevices.
You get it. It may allow you to go longer between cleanings. What I am about to tell you did not make the video cut, but I cleaned both trays and the Master took 10 seconds longer than the MaxV tray. I think it is a nice thing to have, but I would not consider it as part of my decision over the MaxV. Just not necessary.
It does not really compete with either of those. They have more features. The X series is Dreame's flagship models so those would compete with the Roborock S8 MaxV Ultra which is Roborock's flagship line. The Qrevo line would compete with the Dreame L series.
Hey Jamie, so for this model without the auto detergent dispenser fearture (like the s8 maxv), we'll need to pour the detergent straight into the water tank right? In my region, S8 maxv Ultra is $1,799 vs Qrevo Master on sale for $1,199, which one do you think I should get IYO? Thanks.
Yes you would have to pour the detergent into the tank. It would be a hard sell for my to pay that much more for the S8 MaxV even though it is mostly better.
Roborock has too many models, lol. There are 9 Q Revo models now. NINE!!! Love my Q Revo original, but my two issues are the lack of hot water, lack of corner vacuuming, and lack of edge mopping. These newer models seem to address all of this, but I'm not sure which of their NINE(!!!) models to go for 😂 My "dream robovac" is still an upgraded version of the Eufy S1 Pro with better edge and corner cleaning.
I'm a fan of Roborock, had a few models, currently with S7 MaxV Ultra and planned to upgrade to their next line in 2025 (skipping the current s8). However kickstarter suggested me some new robot from chinese brand 3i - S10 ultra. Basically usual stuff like most top brands, the diff is that it is supposed to purity 100% of the dirt water, clean it and re-use it as clean (it doesn't even have a dirt water tank). In other words - no piping required. It would be awesome if you can do an honest review on that one since most of the things i find in youtube (which are really few) and not exactly reviewes, more like commercials.
@@jamie.andrews that's unfortunate. the water refinement sounds amazing but my doubts are starting to rise. the campaign is pretty short and on the whole youtube there is not 1 review that shows actual data and tests, only some "commercial" reviews.
@@venelinbakalov5945 That is because manufacturers try to control what reviewers say. Some try with me until I remind them they do not pay me and thus I have not signed a contract. The issue is they lump me in with the paid reviewers.
I feel like a lot of these Chinese-branded robot vacuums arent tweaked enough for the North American market in terms of carpet cleaning, navigation and obstacle avoidance.
I don't test that as it is nearly impossible. Many robots sling debris outside of the area and some robots only allow 2 passes. The way I do it allows you to compare the results of a single pass for each robot I have tested.
@@jamie.andrews I think it's practically the same as the X40 you reviewed. My take from your review was that the Dreame was better - would you agree? I'm sat staring at my Eufy X10 Pro boxed up, debating if it send it back for a Dreame L40 for only an extra £100.
How does the Qrevo Master obstacle avoidance compare to the Qrevo MaxV after the MaxV's update? Also you mentioned in the S8 MaxV review that the flexi-arm brush didn't work that well, is the Qrevo Master's flexi-arm brush any different since you say it works well here?
QRevo Master and MaxV have the same obstacle avoidance hardware and after the last update on the MaxV it performs the exact same as the Master here. The Flexi Arm brush has been improved in corners for both the Master and the S8 MaxV Ultra however neither function in other places like under low lying furniture, doors and cabinets. That is a shame.
Roborock has great navigation, but yes, cord avoidance isn't great. And none of the other reviewers call it on this. On the whole, though, Roborock makes a great robot.
@jamie.andrews I'm interested if the new Slim with "StarSight" can finally rival Dreame's navigation system. Paper specs don't always translate to the real world, is my reasoning. I'm kinda bummed out with Dreame, my Z10 Pro released in 2021, and stopped receiving updates in 2022. That's not what I would normally call a good investment, my "carpet boost" is still flagged as Beta for whatever reason all these years.
@@_TrueDesire_ Most robots released that long ago don't get updates. I think 2 years is about max from what I have seen. There are a few exceptions, but not many.
Dear Jamie, I have spent the last couple days absolutely binging your content trying to decide on my first robo vacuum to buy and gotta say I have never been more confused by how many options there are lol I would appreciate it if you could help! Right now I’m deciding between this Qrevo Master and the Eufy x10 pro omni. It’s for a 2 bedroom apartment (roughly 1100sqft) with laminate oak colored wood flooring and low pile rugs in some of the rooms. No pets or kids Which vacuum do you think would be best for me, or if you think there’s one better I can get than those to for around the same budget limit as a qrevo master?
I don't see you needing the Master at all. I would go with a Qrevo Plus or Pro if I were you and save some cash. The Eufy X10 is really nice, but it more directly compares to the Qrevo S.
I am an Indian middle age woman with a teenager boy . I have 1300sqft glossy tiles flooring, my budget is 1lakh indian rupees, suggest me handsfree cleaning option. I would blindly fkllow your suggestion ❤❤
Take a look at the Qrevo series from Roborock. Without knowing more about your home it is hard to tell which one would be best. The Qrevo Pro is the sweet spot for most people.
I just watched the video again and don't see where I said this. Do you have a time stamp? Is it possible you misunderstood when I was referring to the Qrevo MaxV not having dual rollers?
Yes, but depending on the depth of the table maintenance like removing the water tanks or cleaning the dock tray might be a bit hard without pulling it out.
@@jamie.andrews Well just look at the 'features'. Things such as heat cleaning the mops, changing out dirty water for clean etc.These seem very complex to me and open to failure.
Found you from reddit - this is much better than a certain other review channel! Now, time to binge watch your content... ;)
Welcome aboard!
I would love to see how the Q Revo Curv does!!!
Eagerly waiting
Thank you. Your real world tests (vs lab tests of other reviewers) shine a much brighter light on expected performance for these machines. Human hair build up is the #1 issue I have with my "old" S6 MaxV, and no Roborock model seems to have effectively solved the issue yet...though I am quite curious if the Curve can finally address this maintenance headache. Excited for your review!
Yea and throwing clumps of hair on the floor is just no where near the same. Thankfully I have 2 long hair girls and 3 cats so I have plenty of real world testing!
So far the Dreame Tricut brush works wonders and so does the one in the Narwal Freo models. I'll have my review of the Curv out soon.
I was able to purchase an X30 Ultra for $690 Refurbed with 2 year warranty from dreame on ebay, but then I found the Qrevo master for $850 new with some coupon stacking, only 1 year warranty though. Wondering if you have any opinion between these 2 if the Qrevo Master is worth another $160?
I do not recommend buying a refurb vacuum. I have heard of way too many horror stories.
@@jamie.andrews I have mine set up currently the refurbed x30 and it’s working flawlessly looked new I’m almost curious if it is brand new. Minus the refurbed part, do you think the QRevo Master is the better option?
@@VALORANTProtatomonster You may have gotten lucky. I'd keep it as long as you don't see any issues pop up. Mainly those are with the removal of the mopping pads, dock plumbing and also very important to make sure that water is coming out of the robot. Mine stopped pumping water out of the robot onto the pads. Quality issues are the only real issues with Dreame.
@@jamie.andrews in comparison to that QRevo master would you recommend it over? I mostly want good mopping. I feel as if the vacuuming will be sufficient on both for tile floors with only one rug in the home.
I ordered a S8 maxv ultra with anniversary sale and military discount. Suffice to say the amount of competition out there is fierce and I only went s8 since it was heavily discounted against eufy s1 pro and dreame x40….
base q revo, will probably stay the best for now for a long time :)
Yea that will do for most people.
One of the best reviewers on RUclips!
Thanks for this review! Great as always
Thanks again!
Great video.
I still think I prefer the Curv.
Robo vacs today almost have enough features to satisfy my fussy requirements to buy a new replacement vac, however I still have no money to buy one. 😂
Other features I'd like to see is better navigation, an air purifier/humidifier/dehumidifier inbuilt to the dock, & something to clean baseboards like the duster on the Narwal Freo Z ultra.
Where is the "Clean under furniture" option in the app? Which Roborocks have it?
The Master and S8 MaxV Ultra both have it. The setting is under AI laboratory in the settings menu.
@@jamie.andrews Thank you. But no luck for my old Q Revo, I guess.
Thanks for a great review!
Previous firmware updates have improved the object avoidance - do you expect the same happening with this?
It certainly could especially since they are using Reactive AI on more devices. It won't be as good as the S8 MaxV Ultra due to hardware limitations.
@@jamie.andrews how is it compared to the maxV? That got a great improve w the firmware update. So it's to understand if it's par now with it or it could become even better in the future.
Many thanks
The self-cleaning dock is still kind of an odd choice to me. Do you find it reduces or increases maintenance compared to the original Qrevo? It seems you still have to clean the base. But now you have two pieces that need to be cleaned and more moving parts! Hopefully that bottom of the top part doesn't need to be cleaned because it looks like it has lots of small crevices.
You get it. It may allow you to go longer between cleanings. What I am about to tell you did not make the video cut, but I cleaned both trays and the Master took 10 seconds longer than the MaxV tray. I think it is a nice thing to have, but I would not consider it as part of my decision over the MaxV. Just not necessary.
@@jamie.andrews thanks that's what I suspected. It's there to check the box for marketing and to have feature parity with other robots.
Roborock really confuses me with their releases and naming scheme. A lot of models are competing with each other.
Yea I have given them that feedback. It is like 10 models in 1 year for just Qrevo alone
@@jamie.andrews Cool, I've asked them to get the newest robots as well no luck as of now. Would've liked to review.
Another fantastic, unbiased review 👍
Thank you! 👍
Which firmware were you using? Vacuum Wars had a similarly terrible experience with navigation and updated the firmware and it improved immediately.
02.21.74 which is the latest. He only tests on hard floor surfaces which the Master does better on hard floor instead of carpet.
Thanks, great review. Is it better than a Dreame X30 or X40? Which one do you prefer? Thanks !
It does not really compete with either of those. They have more features. The X series is Dreame's flagship models so those would compete with the Roborock S8 MaxV Ultra which is Roborock's flagship line. The Qrevo line would compete with the Dreame L series.
@@jamie.andrewswhy is the s8 maxv ultra considered a “better” robot?
Would you happen to know what firmware version you were running during object avoidance tests?
Master was 02.21.74
I really want to see how the forthcoming edge performs.
Same robot as the Curv. I'll have that review out in several weeks.
I cant decide between the s8maxv or the q revo master. I have alot of hard wood. What should i get?
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Hey Jamie, so for this model without the auto detergent dispenser fearture (like the s8 maxv), we'll need to pour the detergent straight into the water tank right? In my region, S8 maxv Ultra is $1,799 vs Qrevo Master on sale for $1,199, which one do you think I should get IYO? Thanks.
Yes you would have to pour the detergent into the tank. It would be a hard sell for my to pay that much more for the S8 MaxV even though it is mostly better.
Great review. Helped with my decision 👍
Glad I could help
Roborock has too many models, lol. There are 9 Q Revo models now. NINE!!!
Love my Q Revo original, but my two issues are the lack of hot water, lack of corner vacuuming, and lack of edge mopping.
These newer models seem to address all of this, but I'm not sure which of their NINE(!!!) models to go for 😂
My "dream robovac" is still an upgraded version of the Eufy S1 Pro with better edge and corner cleaning.
Yea I have been talking with Eufy about that. The Curv may be the right one for your needs.
I'm a fan of Roborock, had a few models, currently with S7 MaxV Ultra and planned to upgrade to their next line in 2025 (skipping the current s8).
However kickstarter suggested me some new robot from chinese brand 3i - S10 ultra. Basically usual stuff like most top brands, the diff is that it is supposed to purity 100% of the dirt water, clean it and re-use it as clean (it doesn't even have a dirt water tank). In other words - no piping required. It would be awesome if you can do an honest review on that one since most of the things i find in youtube (which are really few) and not exactly reviewes, more like commercials.
I talked to them at one point about doing a review, but they went quiet and never sent me the product.
@@jamie.andrews that's unfortunate. the water refinement sounds amazing but my doubts are starting to rise. the campaign is pretty short and on the whole youtube there is not 1 review that shows actual data and tests, only some "commercial" reviews.
@@venelinbakalov5945 That is because manufacturers try to control what reviewers say. Some try with me until I remind them they do not pay me and thus I have not signed a contract. The issue is they lump me in with the paid reviewers.
I feel like a lot of these Chinese-branded robot vacuums arent tweaked enough for the North American market in terms of carpet cleaning, navigation and obstacle avoidance.
Interesting take. Roborock is not as good as Dreame and Eufy with object avoidance.
do you update the firmware before running tests?
Always.
How many passes to get 100% pickup
I don't test that as it is nearly impossible. Many robots sling debris outside of the area and some robots only allow 2 passes.
The way I do it allows you to compare the results of a single pass for each robot I have tested.
Would you recommend this one or Dreame L40?
I have not tested the L40 yet.
@@jamie.andrews I think it's practically the same as the X40 you reviewed. My take from your review was that the Dreame was better - would you agree? I'm sat staring at my Eufy X10 Pro boxed up, debating if it send it back for a Dreame L40 for only an extra £100.
@@SeanHarrison88 The X40 is for sure a big step up from the X10. Heck the X30 is as well. Have you considered the Eufy S1 Pro?
How does the Qrevo Master obstacle avoidance compare to the Qrevo MaxV after the MaxV's update?
Also you mentioned in the S8 MaxV review that the flexi-arm brush didn't work that well, is the Qrevo Master's flexi-arm brush any different since you say it works well here?
QRevo Master and MaxV have the same obstacle avoidance hardware and after the last update on the MaxV it performs the exact same as the Master here.
The Flexi Arm brush has been improved in corners for both the Master and the S8 MaxV Ultra however neither function in other places like under low lying furniture, doors and cabinets. That is a shame.
Roborock has great navigation, but yes, cord avoidance isn't great. And none of the other reviewers call it on this. On the whole, though, Roborock makes a great robot.
Totally agree. Most other reviewers use a cord that is bundled up or a power strip. Both things are not proper to test with.
I love my old Roborock, but I was thinking about buying a new one that would be able to avoid cables on the floor. I guess I will save my money. 😂
Yea
Qrevo Slim vs Dreame L40 Ultra? 😎
The L40 Ultra has better specs.
@jamie.andrews I'm interested if the new Slim with "StarSight" can finally rival Dreame's navigation system. Paper specs don't always translate to the real world, is my reasoning.
I'm kinda bummed out with Dreame, my Z10 Pro released in 2021, and stopped receiving updates in 2022. That's not what I would normally call a good investment, my "carpet boost" is still flagged as Beta for whatever reason all these years.
@@_TrueDesire_ Most robots released that long ago don't get updates. I think 2 years is about max from what I have seen. There are a few exceptions, but not many.
Dear Jamie, I have spent the last couple days absolutely binging your content trying to decide on my first robo vacuum to buy and gotta say I have never been more confused by how many options there are lol
I would appreciate it if you could help! Right now I’m deciding between this Qrevo Master and the Eufy x10 pro omni.
It’s for a 2 bedroom apartment (roughly 1100sqft) with laminate oak colored wood flooring and low pile rugs in some of the rooms. No pets or kids
Which vacuum do you think would be best for me, or if you think there’s one better I can get than those to for around the same budget limit as a qrevo master?
I don't see you needing the Master at all. I would go with a Qrevo Plus or Pro if I were you and save some cash. The Eufy X10 is really nice, but it more directly compares to the Qrevo S.
I am an Indian middle age woman with a teenager boy . I have 1300sqft glossy tiles flooring, my budget is 1lakh indian rupees, suggest me handsfree cleaning option. I would blindly fkllow your suggestion ❤❤
Take a look at the Qrevo series from Roborock. Without knowing more about your home it is hard to tell which one would be best. The Qrevo Pro is the sweet spot for most people.
Why did you say the maxv ultra doesn't have dual brush rollers?
I just watched the video again and don't see where I said this. Do you have a time stamp? Is it possible you misunderstood when I was referring to the Qrevo MaxV not having dual rollers?
I have 74cm of height under my table, is that enough?
Yes, but depending on the depth of the table maintenance like removing the water tanks or cleaning the dock tray might be a bit hard without pulling it out.
Your reviews are always the best. ❤
Thank you so much!
Why again.. why Roborok put’s microphones on lidar to make robot higher.. only to sell slim on 2025?
Yea you are not the first person to say that. We still need to see how well the Slim navigates though. Lidar so far is king.
Just picked up this from Amazon for $950
Come back and let me know what you think when you get to use it.
Seems that there's a lot that can go wrong with this machine.
Can you explain what you mean?
@@jamie.andrews Well just look at the 'features'. Things such as heat cleaning the mops, changing out dirty water for clean etc.These seem very complex to me and open to failure.
@@briantate7296 Sure. The more complex things are the more that can go wrong.