I mean yeah but I feel like the game design really isn’t that great here. The fact that characters have un-reactable full screen lunge into either hard knockdown mid screen or massive 60% combo in the corner is just, not great. Because top tiers have traits like that, it’s hard for me to really say that the game is particularly well balanced cause like... some of the game design decisions in this game are REALLY questionable.
No its a testament as to how much blatantly better the top tiers are, having all the other characters just a mid tier slot and then having the big top tiers be obviously top tier is just the nice way of saying “yeah all these characters are equally bad so pick a top tier”
@@lordradiance2530 Like top tiers are top tiers but this game is pretty balanced. They are a bit better but that doesnt mean that comes into play unless you are fighting at the veeery best and you are the very best. Beating the player beats the character too.
I hope Arc Sys takes a very minimal approach to buffing/nerfing characters in this game. Feels like the slightest adjustments could make a character too strong or too weak in this game
Thanks for the your list! Will be interested to see an updated list when we get the big patch as well as Soriz/Djeeta. I still enjoy Narmaya regardless of her weaknesses, but totally interested to see what they do with Zooey and how she will play.
Several just below top tier characters will most likely not see a large presence in tournaments outside a few notable paragons in my opinion. Metera for example requires the player to always be on point while the best characters in game can get away with a bit of autopilot. Percival’s game plan is much more complicated than the top tier characters (he has to get flame charges) and does not get rewarded like Gran and Katalina nor does he have the oppression of Lancelot. Narmaya has a large bag of tools which require a high level of skill (at least comparatively) and only just approaches what Gran and Katalina do at a base level.
I think you are underestimating Katalina a little, she's just as much of a threat as Gran and Lancelot, she has dumb staggers and amazing range on her normals. Also extremely high combo damage.
The fact that Katalina’s 5M has the reach it has but still comes out as fast as it does means she can basically mash it on block and reverse any pressure situation. Its quite aggravating.
A few things I enjoy about Beelzebub. His dp stops crossups and shuts down a lot of pressure since it hits on both sides. I don't recommend it on wake up most of the time unless you're going for a read, but most the time you're better off blocking and getting an opening. I've cheesed out many wins with him. I feel like he has a lot to offer. Sometimes I'll pull people in and get a free throw do it again and then hit them with the command super. Also, you can dp the boot. And well time vanishes can punish fireball spam from gran or just about anyone. But it's pretty risky and mistimed will cost you. But I agree, he needs more time for experimentation. I'm not going to be the player that shows his potential, but I love him.
@@jojo95DK except putting armor on alone is really hard. well then again I don't play on ps4 so I'm just gonna hope vaseraga's soul forge buffs are huge.
@@jojo95DK I have vaseraga as my second main (that I regret but I can't stop lol) should get better as soon as I learn counter hit stance H combos and down H counter hit combos
I just started playing this game yesterday so this tier list is actually very convenient for me lol. I picked up Normaya day one because I love her as a character but I’m even happier that she’s honest. Gotta put that work in for her
Any time Vas walks you hear boss music... I'm not kidding about this either I've never been left clueless on what to do against an opponent before Vas extended walked on me.
I was thinking the same about Bubs being in the middle, however I can see him also being placed as a “cheap” character but can be shot down to the point to where us Bubs main need to play honestly. His Karma ability or black hole, can actually eat projectiles with correct timing and the correct version (Zeta may be an exception to this).
Zero I think bubs cheapness vs honesty is dependant on matchup, for example his U can bypass some characters important tools but other characters aren’t affected by it much
@@Applebomb8D Bub's cheapness is entirely dependent on matchups, I agree. He can be a zoner's worst nightmare, especially against projectiles that travel.
I've been playing Bubs since his release as my main and the two things that feels like he is missing is his dp being a more effective reversal and his teleport not being so negative. His dp is a nice reversal that can hit even behind you but its distance is lacking. If the distance was slightly better to where you can catch someone trying to jump in on you it would be much better rather than waiting for the opponent to be right up on you. Then his teleport. God his teleport made me think it be great but it is just decent at best because you are so negative with it. Even when get a read and teleport behind you are still negative to where they can block and possibly even punish you. Only time you are positive with his teleport is if you land a hard knockdown or the opponent is negative on the move you read. I love Bubs and his kit because he has great spacing tools and to be positive you need to space your stuff properly additionally you can chip out people really well. I think if they did better frames on his teleport he'd be far better because his mobility isn't great and he lacks a crossup with his jump ins so if he wasn't so negative then he'd feel so much more awesome to handle.
mexican zubat I’m gonna disagree with you there, if he could punish moves at full screen just by pressing X he’d be beyond annoying and badly designed. Getting a blockstring from really far away is already strong.
Former Susan main(all hail raw landshark/god press, works 100% of the time it works). Narmaya is the only character thats fun to play atm for me in this game, looking forwards to soiya boi though
I've got one suggestion for the Block Button, so it can make mix-ups more viable... Make it so as long as you keep pressing the Block Button, you won't switch sides. For example: I'm on the left, holding block button, and the opponent is on the right, attacking me. If he then goes behind me to mix me up, I should have to let go the block button and then hold it again, so I switch sides.
@Daichi Zken' if lancelot's point is to cross-up, doesn't "hold to block any side" gonna be pointless? Lancelot is good because he is a *mix-up* /cross-up character, not only cross-up
honestly i think they need to buff Metera's butterflies. i can rarely if ever find any use for them. the opponent can always dodge or jump through them, block them, apply pressure to you so you can't detonate them in the first place etc. i think they should make them either proximity or timed instead of needing the arrows.
@@blueperiodfan4725 you say its her best move yet i have yet to find a true use for it. i almost never use it in a match because anytime i try to make something of it it 99% of the time amounts to nothing. different opinions i guess, and thats fair. if you can make use of her butterflies you have my utmost respect cause i sure as hell can't find any use for them further than a stray lucky hit with them.
@@anime4life209 her butterfly is like everything to her. Is another thing that make her unique and fun. It has a lot of utilty. Its so weird that anyone want to change her butterfly. It got buff anyway. Its no longer reset the cooldown
@@blueperiodfan4725 just because its unique doesn't make it useful. like i said i have yet to find a use for the butterflies, but if you can then all the power to you. to me they're useless.
Narmaya most honest than percival and zeta more honest than bubs, thats cap to the max. I really dont feel like bubs should be that low. Ladiva being more cheap than charlotta is also pretty cap.
Where would soriz and djeeta fit on this list. I know they’re new but just speculation. I’d assume djeeta is up near gran and katalina right? And soriz I’d probs put in the same league as Percival? Unless there’s something I’m missing from him
Out of all the characters Charlotta has not faired the best the more the game develops. Her game plan is not too fancy and her Demon Flip is a non-mixup being used at a high level more to trick your way back in. Besides her safety and her roll on whiff she is actually very honest. I would not be surprised if she falls a little more than she is now. I could see LaDiva taking Charlotta’s place on the tier list as gate keeper to high tier.
@@swifti1001 So I just did a test since you brought it up, it changes depending on the character, but Gran can spot-dodge her coming down and punish her. And literally every character can punish her when she lands. It's not always the same, some need an L, some need a 2M, but every character can punish it.
Totally disagree on Belzebub's placement. Imho he is almost at the level of top tiers, but his high skill cap is making him look far weak than he really is. Zeta is really to flawed to be that high. Sadly i'd put her only on top of Lowain. Bad normals, bad reversals and almost no damage outside of corner combos. Other than those 2, i agree on almost everything else you said.
nobody has any true damage outside of the corner in this game. some might be a little better than others, but this game requires the corner if you want to get true damage. least thats what i've found.
@@anime4life209 That's true, but Percival, Ladiva and Vaseraga can easily go over 5k midscreen if they have meter. Anyway, even not considering her low combo damage midscreen she still has really bad normals and reversals, so she still needs a bit of love in the next balance patch imho.
@@spiritocombattivo2619 i can do 5K with her so her damage isn't to low. i also don't play her much so i likely could do even more if i messed around with her enough. as for ladiva, they're a poor example because they're a Grappler and Grapplers have always had high damage regardless of the fighter they're in. Gran is the biggest offender for big damage for little effort he can get 7000 meterless.
Overall a solid list, i think Lowain cheapness is right but he should be above the line and higher up, Everyone online loses the most games to lowain and when most players win rates in matchups against lowain is the lowest that makes him a top tier character because of his cheapness.
Don’t even talk about how cL can frame trap into three, how his chaoscaliber is a jail and he can basically do a safe combination with fight ex fireball into chaoscaliber, or how you can hit confirm with jU into chaoscaliber (but he said anti-anti air so ahhhh) but again lack of character knowledge i guess and he stated that so it’s whatever
One of his biggest flaws is how slow he is and i mean really slow and his teleport not only have to be used for reads but also have to be spaced out to be safe then there’s his grab range, basically have to be nipple sucking range for him to grab
imo kat is 10x better then gran. she has the same tools and the same damage all while controlling the screen. not only that but the fact that she can slow the game down agaisnt lancelot is the reason why all top players use her.
@@Imp3rdLord i meant this is either too late or too early.. too close to the release of the next character. this tier list isnt going to be usable for any useful length of time.
@@siekensou77 i know what you meant and my point stands.people will watch both videos and upvote both so he has nothing to lose from this one even if its not going to be relevant long.
@@siekensou77 doesn't really matter. It's just a topic people like talking about. Otherwise you'd see more complaints in the comments than people talking in interest, especially about characters they labbed with. You can find people talking about tier lists in much older games and people would still watch it.
Yo, Koefficient. You do realize that your title is potentially misleading since people might think this is a tier list for the Granblue Fantasy RPG game rather than for GBF Versus?
Yes, male Draph body but have a woman's reincarnated soul. She was offered by the greatest Alchemist in all skydom a proper female body but she declined in respect of her current life's parents who raised her. Very respectable lady duelist.
Timestamps for each character's explanation in the video:
0:55 Ladiva
4:04 Lancelot
5:55 Ferry
8:39 Metera
11:11 Percival
14:17 Lowain
18:13 Charlotta
23:33 Gran
28:54 Beelzebub
32:53 Zeta
38:07 Narmaya
44:36 Vaseraga
51:44 Katalina
Basically most Lowain mains: "Tactics? What's that? We fake it 'till we make it! Waheeyy!!!"
I'm guilty of this as well...
Taka Baruna me too bro!!! Waheyyyy!!!!
"Human Pyramid is 10 times better than Human Pyramid"
Nice.
It’s a testament to the game that everyone is so close together.
Half the 13- character roster can be described as cheap, lol
I mean yeah but I feel like the game design really isn’t that great here. The fact that characters have un-reactable full screen lunge into either hard knockdown mid screen or massive 60% combo in the corner is just, not great. Because top tiers have traits like that, it’s hard for me to really say that the game is particularly well balanced cause like... some of the game design decisions in this game are REALLY questionable.
No its a testament as to how much blatantly better the top tiers are, having all the other characters just a mid tier slot and then having the big top tiers be obviously top tier is just the nice way of saying “yeah all these characters are equally bad so pick a top tier”
@@lordradiance2530 Like top tiers are top tiers but this game is pretty balanced. They are a bit better but that doesnt mean that comes into play unless you are fighting at the veeery best and you are the very best. Beating the player beats the character too.
I hope Arc Sys takes a very minimal approach to buffing/nerfing characters in this game. Feels like the slightest adjustments could make a character too strong or too weak in this game
Id rather see large universal changes rather than large changes to characters.
@@superbaralai I can understand that since it can pretty much have the same effect as minor buffs/nerfs.
Thanks for the your list! Will be interested to see an updated list when we get the big patch as well as Soriz/Djeeta. I still enjoy Narmaya regardless of her weaknesses, but totally interested to see what they do with Zooey and how she will play.
What ?! No hentai? I'm out. I liked your yesterday's channel better!
Several just below top tier characters will most likely not see a large presence in tournaments outside a few notable paragons in my opinion. Metera for example requires the player to always be on point while the best characters in game can get away with a bit of autopilot. Percival’s game plan is much more complicated than the top tier characters (he has to get flame charges) and does not get rewarded like Gran and Katalina nor does he have the oppression of Lancelot. Narmaya has a large bag of tools which require a high level of skill (at least comparatively) and only just approaches what Gran and Katalina do at a base level.
I think you are underestimating Katalina a little, she's just as much of a threat as Gran and Lancelot, she has dumb staggers and amazing range on her normals. Also extremely high combo damage.
She has such great reach for being so safe. Might just be my lack of experience, but Lancelot players are so much easier to deal with than a Kat.
Katalina is a Lancelots nightmare.
The fact that Katalina’s 5M has the reach it has but still comes out as fast as it does means she can basically mash it on block and reverse any pressure situation. Its quite aggravating.
@@squeezlebub3593 Yeah that stagger is dumb good.
Charlotta main reporting in: Playing footsies against Kat is nightmare fuel because of her 5M... and most of her other buttons.
A few things I enjoy about Beelzebub. His dp stops crossups and shuts down a lot of pressure since it hits on both sides. I don't recommend it on wake up most of the time unless you're going for a read, but most the time you're better off blocking and getting an opening. I've cheesed out many wins with him. I feel like he has a lot to offer. Sometimes I'll pull people in and get a free throw do it again and then hit them with the command super. Also, you can dp the boot. And well time vanishes can punish fireball spam from gran or just about anyone. But it's pretty risky and mistimed will cost you. But I agree, he needs more time for experimentation. I'm not going to be the player that shows his potential, but I love him.
As a Vas main every character is S tier and cheap. ;-;
so true
Until you put your armor on and charge in, now YOU are S tier, show the others who's the boss
...especially Ferry
@@jojo95DK except putting armor on alone is really hard. well then again I don't play on ps4 so I'm just gonna hope vaseraga's soul forge buffs are huge.
@@doldol0494 I play Vaseraga on Steam too, I know it's hard, but if you find the opportunity, seize it
@@jojo95DK I have vaseraga as my second main (that I regret but I can't stop lol) should get better as soon as I learn counter hit stance H combos and down H counter hit combos
I just started playing this game yesterday so this tier list is actually very convenient for me lol. I picked up Normaya day one because I love her as a character but I’m even happier that she’s honest. Gotta put that work in for her
"I think human pyramid is 10 times better than human pyramid."
huh
I wanna put Charlotta a bit more on the right side of this chart because she's actually a bit more unga imo
Any time Vas walks you hear boss music... I'm not kidding about this either I've never been left clueless on what to do against an opponent before Vas extended walked on me.
I was thinking the same about Bubs being in the middle, however I can see him also being placed as a “cheap” character but can be shot down to the point to where us Bubs main need to play honestly. His Karma ability or black hole, can actually eat projectiles with correct timing and the correct version (Zeta may be an exception to this).
Zero I think bubs cheapness vs honesty is dependant on matchup, for example his U can bypass some characters important tools but other characters aren’t affected by it much
@@Applebomb8D Bub's cheapness is entirely dependent on matchups, I agree. He can be a zoner's worst nightmare, especially against projectiles that travel.
@@Applebomb8D his U is like a "fuck ygg lol lemme spam this to ignore it almost entirely"
I've been playing Bubs since his release as my main and the two things that feels like he is missing is his dp being a more effective reversal and his teleport not being so negative.
His dp is a nice reversal that can hit even behind you but its distance is lacking. If the distance was slightly better to where you can catch someone trying to jump in on you it would be much better rather than waiting for the opponent to be right up on you.
Then his teleport. God his teleport made me think it be great but it is just decent at best because you are so negative with it. Even when get a read and teleport behind you are still negative to where they can block and possibly even punish you. Only time you are positive with his teleport is if you land a hard knockdown or the opponent is negative on the move you read.
I love Bubs and his kit because he has great spacing tools and to be positive you need to space your stuff properly additionally you can chip out people really well.
I think if they did better frames on his teleport he'd be far better because his mobility isn't great and he lacks a crossup with his jump ins so if he wasn't so negative then he'd feel so much more awesome to handle.
mexican zubat I’m gonna disagree with you there, if he could punish moves at full screen just by pressing X he’d be beyond annoying and badly designed. Getting a blockstring from really far away is already strong.
Former Susan main(all hail raw landshark/god press, works 100% of the time it works). Narmaya is the only character thats fun to play atm for me in this game, looking forwards to soiya boi though
tfw Gran and Lancelot share the same VA (jp) xD
I've got one suggestion for the Block Button, so it can make mix-ups more viable...
Make it so as long as you keep pressing the Block Button, you won't switch sides.
For example: I'm on the left, holding block button, and the opponent is on the right, attacking me. If he then goes behind me to mix me up, I should have to let go the block button and then hold it again, so I switch sides.
@Daichi Zken' if lancelot's point is to cross-up, doesn't "hold to block any side" gonna be pointless? Lancelot is good because he is a *mix-up* /cross-up character, not only cross-up
@Daichi Zken' the block button has the function of making you being able to dodge
@@nycklex6956 imagine dodging lancelot mixup
@@blueperiodfan4725 im not telling to dodge, im telling to block, sideswap, can you read properly please?
@@nycklex6956 if people can do that than why is he still hated. People already annoyed with his mix up . There no need to give him more mix up.
honestly i think they need to buff Metera's butterflies. i can rarely if ever find any use for them. the opponent can always dodge or jump through them, block them, apply pressure to you so you can't detonate them in the first place etc. i think they should make them either proximity or timed instead of needing the arrows.
That just make her worst. Why the hell you change her best move? That just make her more predictable
@@blueperiodfan4725 you say its her best move yet i have yet to find a true use for it. i almost never use it in a match because anytime i try to make something of it it 99% of the time amounts to nothing. different opinions i guess, and thats fair. if you can make use of her butterflies you have my utmost respect cause i sure as hell can't find any use for them further than a stray lucky hit with them.
@@anime4life209 her butterfly is like everything to her. Is another thing that make her unique and fun. It has a lot of utilty. Its so weird that anyone want to change her butterfly. It got buff anyway. Its no longer reset the cooldown
@@blueperiodfan4725 just because its unique doesn't make it useful. like i said i have yet to find a use for the butterflies, but if you can then all the power to you. to me they're useless.
Narmaya most honest than percival and zeta more honest than bubs, thats cap to the max. I really dont feel like bubs should be that low. Ladiva being more cheap than charlotta is also pretty cap.
Where would soriz and djeeta fit on this list. I know they’re new but just speculation. I’d assume djeeta is up near gran and katalina right? And soriz I’d probs put in the same league as Percival? Unless there’s something I’m missing from him
Sleeping on Vasaraga koefficient
Lowain is already in his name: Low-wahey. Low-tier and troll hehe.
Shiva,vajra,anila,andira and zooey should be the top tier
♥Koefficient
I play Beelzebub. I think he’s high tier, but not top tier. Just got to A rank. Have beaten a few S rank already.
Is there a longer version of the intro song?
The song is the station of awakening music from kh. But the specific mix I cant find
Thank god yesterday was a joke.
Wait till we get muscle vyrn and sarasa
Ungalot ppl get to meme🤣
Funny both characters that is voiced by yuki ono is top tier lol
Hate Ladiva not cuz grappler, but cuz its Ladiva lol. He fucking scares me
Lowain low tier not happy
I disagree heavily on the Charlotta placement. Just the fact that her ex DP is damn near unpunishable on block should put her deep in cheap.
Can't you just spot-dodge Charlotta's DP if you block her going up?
Other top tier have more things than charlotta. And people already know how to deal with her so she drop from tier list
Out of all the characters Charlotta has not faired the best the more the game develops. Her game plan is not too fancy and her Demon Flip is a non-mixup being used at a high level more to trick your way back in. Besides her safety and her roll on whiff she is actually very honest. I would not be surprised if she falls a little more than she is now. I could see LaDiva taking Charlotta’s place on the tier list as gate keeper to high tier.
@@AhkoRC She would still be safe because of spot-dodge recovery
@@swifti1001 So I just did a test since you brought it up, it changes depending on the character, but Gran can spot-dodge her coming down and punish her.
And literally every character can punish her when she lands. It's not always the same, some need an L, some need a 2M, but every character can punish it.
Totally disagree on Belzebub's placement. Imho he is almost at the level of top tiers, but his high skill cap is making him look far weak than he really is. Zeta is really to flawed to be that high. Sadly i'd put her only on top of Lowain. Bad normals, bad reversals and almost no damage outside of corner combos.
Other than those 2, i agree on almost everything else you said.
nobody has any true damage outside of the corner in this game. some might be a little better than others, but this game requires the corner if you want to get true damage. least thats what i've found.
@@anime4life209 That's true, but Percival, Ladiva and Vaseraga can easily go over 5k midscreen if they have meter. Anyway, even not considering her low combo damage midscreen she still has really bad normals and reversals, so she still needs a bit of love in the next balance patch imho.
@@spiritocombattivo2619 i can do 5K with her so her damage isn't to low. i also don't play her much so i likely could do even more if i messed around with her enough. as for ladiva, they're a poor example because they're a Grappler and Grapplers have always had high damage regardless of the fighter they're in. Gran is the biggest offender for big damage for little effort he can get 7000 meterless.
@@anime4life209 could you give me gran 7000 damage meterless without effort. I only see his big damage with follow up ssba or using ex
@@blueperiodfan4725 it was in one of Koefficients videos i believe.
They need to patch the game.
Overall a solid list, i think Lowain cheapness is right but he should be above the line and higher up, Everyone online loses the most games to lowain and when most players win rates in matchups against lowain is the lowest that makes him a top tier character because of his cheapness.
Don’t even talk about how cL can frame trap into three, how his chaoscaliber is a jail and he can basically do a safe combination with fight ex fireball into chaoscaliber, or how you can hit confirm with jU into chaoscaliber (but he said anti-anti air so ahhhh) but again lack of character knowledge i guess and he stated that so it’s whatever
One of his biggest flaws is how slow he is and i mean really slow and his teleport not only have to be used for reads but also have to be spaced out to be safe then there’s his grab range, basically have to be nipple sucking range for him to grab
He should've used the whole chart for the tierlist. imo
Ya. But people dont understand such things. If he kept it all the same, but expanded it out. People would go nuts.
Still wasted space...
Lowain is the lowest tier in the game. It suits him
The Dojo of Lil Beezie is not happy
imo kat is 10x better then gran. she has the same tools and the same damage all while controlling the screen. not only that but the fact that she can slow the game down agaisnt lancelot is the reason why all top players use her.
chris matos definitely not the same dmg
She is better. Her pokes and neutral game make me cry.
40:10
why not wait for djeeta? now you have to update this when she drops
more veiws with more videos
@@Imp3rdLord
i meant this is either too late or too early.. too close to the release of the next character.
this tier list isnt going to be usable for any useful length of time.
@@siekensou77 i know what you meant and my point stands.people will watch both videos and upvote both so he has nothing to lose from this one even if its not going to be relevant long.
@@siekensou77 doesn't really matter. It's just a topic people like talking about. Otherwise you'd see more complaints in the comments than people talking in interest, especially about characters they labbed with. You can find people talking about tier lists in much older games and people would still watch it.
Ferry cheap xD
I didn’t know Ladiva is a she
I didnt know either! Ladiva is my main haha
How could you not? She's the hottest babe in the cast
A wild hentai ahoge fallen angel appear!
Yo, Koefficient. You do realize that your title is potentially misleading since people might think this is a tier list for the Granblue Fantasy RPG game rather than for GBF Versus?
Nah if they think that they dumb
#BuffNarmaya
Yes plz
The thing that doesn't matter how much you buff her is the existence of the block button. Her cross ups suffer a lot because of this.
Maybe but Narmaya isn't a heavy mixup character so there's plenty of ways to improve her.
Would it make sense for her ex command dash to go through projectiles?
Ladiva is a she? Wtf
Yes, male Draph body but have a woman's reincarnated soul. She was offered by the greatest Alchemist in all skydom a proper female body but she declined in respect of her current life's parents who raised her. Very respectable lady duelist.
Crowitzer the Howitzer I guess I didn’t know the lore. Thx for the explanation
Ladiva is what you would call an Okama
@@CrowitzerTheHoloFan Glad to have the lore on this, since I didn't find it in game and wasn't sure why everyone was referring to hulk hogan as a she.