This is shame for Euroleague organization. ALL teams must be offered isolation and relax not having to defend themselves in front of other teams fans. What would have happened if Pana fans were there as well?
@@PaoFootballClub hahahah listen tough boy, if Fener hooligans wanted to be there they would be there. The fans in the video are just families with children coming to welcome their own team who stays in the same hotel.
As a Greek, I have to say that the Pana fans love him, regardless of whether he is Turkish or Greek. Think about which big teams Pana and Fener defeated to get to the final four, we should all celebrate the big party together as friends.
terrible organisation in this respect. Would not expect Germany to organise so shit the arrival. If Panathinaikos fans were there, and even with the players there , the stuff could go worse.
congratulations PAO! It was very nice to celebrate the Galatasaray championship on the same day with Coach Ataman. You should always trust this man, he is a character who will defend you everywhere.
Adam yrip yunnaistan takiminla klnusulmaz bilr.avurupanin cop ulkesi diye biliniyor zaten yunanistan niye dkkate aliniyor.zaten 10 000 holigan turks gelir trubunlere galibiyetimize
fenerbahce ile panatikos arasinda.yunanistani svmiyoruz svmiyecegiz.ege de ki adalarimiz yunanistan isigalin de.maalesef z kusagina sunlar soylenmiyor turk tarihi bilinmiyor.hani avurpa brligii için yanip tutusanlar mevcut ya sunalr iyi biliversinler avurupa brligine girebilmemizin enigeli yunanistandir.avurupa disinda klmamizi isiteyen ulke yunanistandir
When Pana team arrived, Fenerbahce fans started to sing "Ergin Ataman, why don't you use doping" it is an ancient thing between him and Fenerbahce fans, over a decade ago when some of his players used doping in Turkish league. So, to anger him, the fans were chanting the same thing, and almost every game they chant this. When Ergin Ataman heard it upon arrival, he said "Fuck Off!" and after that fans started to sing "Fenerbahce fucks anyone no matter who", pointing out the result of the derby result between galatasaray and Fenerbahce 4 days ago (gs 0-1 fb). The fans inside the hotel were tellting hime "Coach please dont do this, please" and Ergin was just yelling around like a bullied kid, typical of him.
Those people inside the hotel looked like a familly who wanted their kids to take a picture with their idols,coach should have not put them in the same aspect as the 4 monkeys in the entrance of the hotel.Respect people,but it should be from all sides! Besides there's no reason to fight,Olympiakos is gonna lift the trophy
im Olympiakos and besides that i enjoyed the show of Ataman the bad thing for Fener is that now they are the ones that doping the Panthinaikos players and thats gonna has the oposite result for Fener. now Fener has already way less chance to go to the finals after the motivation that they gave to Panathinaikos players.
@@codingstyle9480 wait and see, i will be here waitting for you on friday night after the game and we will see how basket works. im not even like this im Olympiakos i wish Fener to destroy and humiliate Panathinaikos but... you did a big mistake and now you will pay for it my neighbour.
@@rb_tk8525 from the moment that ALL teams are on the same hotel , fans shouldnt be allowed around the hotel. It is a matter of safety. We have Greek rival teams like Panathinaikos and Olympiakos. We have a Spanish team and a Turkish team. Let fans scream and swear in the stadium. Around the hotel is dangerous. I dont care what Ataman says or do he had to protect his team. Also the same will do if Panathinaikos fans started to yell with anger at Olympiakos staff. But the wrong in all this is that Euroleague let ALL teams in the same hotel. You do that? ok also as euroleague and german police take some serious protection for all this. I hope the best team wins and to see nice basketball.
in 2009, two efes players were tested for doping and the prohibited substance cathine was detected. the coach of efes was ergin ataman at that time and due to this scandal, fenerbahçe fans started chanting doping slogans. in the video the fans are chanting the same slogan they’ve been chanting for years. and after that ataman is getting angry and shouting “f*ck off” at the fans. then the fans are replying with the “fenerbahçe f*cks the man” chant. he gets even more angry and continues yelling at people after he went inside despite other group of fenerbahçe fans trying to calm him down.
@@MrManosss7 The club he works for, has more European Cups and National League Titles than both of you combined. Throw original Ulker in the mix too, if you like. I still have you. Bro, Alvertis alone has more Euroleagues than both of you.
@@DimShamrock first of all I commented the mentality (of the owner probably) and not the history of the club. Secondly the club is not just the basketball team. Good night and good luck
Bu adamı severim sevmem ,yada seversiniz sevmezsiniz , bu ayrı bir tartışma konusudur, fakat ilk bocalamasından sonra dikkat edin kötü durumu fırsata çevirdi, konuyu genişletti ve aslında maçı o anda orada başlattı ,kendini ve oyuncuları motive etti, pana fener maçı otelde başladı fener oyuncuları o ortamda değilken panalı oyuncuları hırs bastı. özet budur.
First of all, what few Fener fans did was something unacceptable. Very disrespectful to say the least. In the end he is the headcoach of Turkish national team as well. Nobody has such rights to disturb anybody like that, regardless of the person’s position. With these said, in my eyes Ataman used this occasion to turn it to a theatre. He should just walk away but he responded to the guys with swearing. In any circumstance, it’s no good for a sportsman, a coach of Panathinaikos and Turkish national team. I am as a Turk, embarrassed for both those guys and Ataman’s attitudes..There were familes there with kids, they didn’t do anything wrong but Ataman put everyone in the same box there, something very impolite and unfair. Someone can do something wrong against you but this doesn’t give anyone a right to reflect this wrong to innocent people. Two wrongs doesn’t make one right. Ataman is doing these on purpose, we all know this. We all die one day but we will be bringing our souls with us, not the trophies, medals, money, fame etc. He can win many trophies in his life but Ataman is loosing many people’s hearts in Turkey by forgetting he is the coach of the Turkish national team.
That has nothing to do with Pana believe me. The history between Ataman & fenerbahce runs so deep you can't even imagine. :)))). Because Ataman is a hard core Galatasaray fan not only he is a registered member of the club. Like myself. He was the coach of Gala and Efes in Turkey. And Fener fans hated Ataman so much. Because he won against them a lot. Pana players just experienced the heat betweeen Gala & Fenerbahce. Fener fans should be more clever by not raising up the tension. As a old turkish proverb says "Rüzgar ekersen, fırtına biçersin." meaning "If you sow the wind, you'll reap a hurricane."
Ergin Ataman is a coach with character problems. He has a tainted history in this regard due to doping use in the teams he manages. In addition, he engages in provocations during F.Bahçe matches for an unknown reason and is trying to gain popularity by making especially the silent F.Bahçe fans his enemies. However, the doping story of his past will never be erased.
he is right.. it was unthinkable that Fener Fans were waiting for Ataman and Pao and got into the hotel without even being guests.. that is dangerous and not fair for the players who need relaxation and rest
PAO fans in the comments are irritated and they have every right to be. At the same time back in Greece they provoke Bartzokas in every single game by swearing, spiting him and wishing death to his family members. And when he reacts they start complaining that he provokes the fans in OAKA and instigates violence. Double standards. They are really pathetic.
Φιλαράκο αυτός που βρίζει μανάδες είναι ο σκακιστής σας και το δείχνει καθαρά στο βίντεο όταν τού λέει ο άλλος 'γειά σου Μπαρτζωκα' του απαντάει ο...σκακιστής τής...μανας σου το....
We dont go the hotel that Bartzokas sleeps to swear on him. We do it during the match. I am sure every coach and player that has beef with another team, hears the same things during the game
This is classic Ergin ...We call him ergen= teenager because he acts like one. Cries, creates unnecessary stress, make up stuff to fool people. What he was supposed to do is to walk by those fans and ignore them. But Ergen curses at them while fans didn't curse at him at first. All those people asking if they did it to you, what would you do ? That is a stupid question...
I'm a Fener fan that was in the hotel during the incident. If you want to hear what really happened, here it is: Fener team stays in the same hotel and arrived about two hours ago before Panathinaikos. Many Fener fans were there to greet the team with flares and chants. After the team checked into the hotel, some fans stayed to get autographs from the players and take pictures with them. Some families were also staying in the same hotel, so they were checking in at the lobby as well. When Pana bus approached, 10-15 fans outside the hotel started chanting "Ergin Ataman, use doping again". This is a classic slogan that Fener fans use against Ataman, because of his notorious "cathine" scandal back in 2009 against Fener. All 3 randomly selected players of his were found to be using cathine, and they were subsequently punished by the Turkish Federation. Anyways, upon hearing this chant Ergin went bananas and started cussing in Turkish. "Siktirin lan, siktirin gidin lan, hassiktir" which means "go f... yourselves, f... off". Fener fans responded by marching closer to him and chanting "Fenerbahçe siker adamı" which means "Fenerbahce f.... whoever comes in our way". Ergin got scared and started to shout "where is the security, where is the Euroleague etc." and went inside. I should point out that none of the fans had anything to do with Pana players, nobody tried anything, not even against Ergin. He was always at least 5 meters away from the fans. Once he went in, he started his drama as usual and started to scream "they attacked me, in front of the door, where is the police, f... this organization, f... Euroleague". Some Fener families inside the hotel tried to calm him down, but he screamed at them as well and had them kicked out by the security. They were families with small girls. Now I'm hearing that Ergin is claiming to be attacked by the German police as well and had called Turkish president Erdogan and Turkish Foreign Minister. This is his typical drama queen behavior, trying to motivate his team and his fans and tries to create enmity between Fener and Pana fans, that could result in very bad outcomes. Please do not fall into his trap, he is a clown.
First of all, he didn't get scared. He got angry. He didn't want any distractions. As any professional coach would do in the F4. Secondly, we know what siktirin means. We use it. And we felt exactly the same. You had absolutely no business there. Finally, "Fener fans responded by marching closer to him". Don't you see a single problem in that sentence? We didn't need motivation. F4 is motivation enough. You made a big mistake.
Euroleague was prepared with a cameraman to capture the arrival of Panathinaikos; however, security measures for such an occasion were overlooked. Τhis is only the initial phase, with two Greek teams and their supporters in Berlin, alongside a Turkish team... German police arrives late and then play the Sheriff.. WHAT THE FUCK
@@haloxGOD did I mention Fener fans and you're answering like that? The concern is about quick escalation from all sides due to lack of proper planning skills by the hosting organization.
Thank you so much for this. The team need something like this to be ready for the first game cause everyone looks like they are thinking for the final and not the game in Friday now they are gonna be ready
There is also a video showing the Fener "fans" attacking members of Panathinaikos staff, as well as Lessort who was with his wife and kid. Of course, when he told them "Come here", no one dared to come close. Typical "hooligans". I understand that Ataman has hurt them waaaaaay too much in his years with Efes, I didn't expect anything different from them, since they see another Ataman hit coming to them.
Ergin atamana yapılanları bir Türk olarak kınıyorum Yunistanda şampiyon yaptıgı panatinaykos kutluyorum Bir Türk olarak şampiyonluk maçı öyle bir çoşkuyla tüm Türkiye ye seyrettik ve destekledik tebrikler
Ergin Ataman always fights with anyone or any team. This is not first or last scandal of him. Fenerbahçe's fans are bad, Maccabi's fans are bad, Barcelona's fans are bad but just Ergin Ataman good!
So you are fine with the fact that anyone over there if wanted could harm Ataman easily. You don’t know how to act objectively when it comes to your holliganist actions.
The fans did not curse him, they were chanting for their team. Even if the did curse him, a “professional” coach could ignore it. And why is he yelling at the fans who did not have a word for him ?
Why make a show, stir everyone up and end with yelling to a guy with three kids to get out of the hotel? If you had two pairs of manhood you would walk inside, tell your team to get ready and mind their business and then as a man walk outside with 2 security guards and confront the what 8? fans if you really feel like they said anything horrific to you. In that way it would be over, but noo he was 1 step away from requesting aid from the German army..
this loser does the same thing every time. he will never get any respect. and this is berlin. he should know better and think twice before cussing fans. when things escalate he runs into the hotel and leaves his players with angry fans.
Most of you miss the point with subjective comments and dealing with the fact only with fan criteria. Certainly Ataman's behavior of behaving like a hooligan does not honor him to put it mildly. Especially if one takes into account that his role is to prepare the team by keeping it calm and focused. Regardless of his behavior, the fact that fans are so close to the hotel where the team is staying is unacceptable. This incident is a big failure for the organization of the euroleague. Also, the supporters of Fenerbahçe in the playoffs match in Istanbul showed great disrespect to the Monaco players and they did it again in Berlin!!! The Euroleague is a celebration for everyone without borders and discrimination, but disrespecting the teams is a red line for me!!!!
Ben bu adamdan nefret ediyordum arkasından da çok küfür etmiştim, bir daha kötü konuşmayacam adam haklı, babası da ölmüş 1 ay önce dün gördüm üzüldüm, bakmayın rekabete ben bu adama saygı duydum dün bahtı açık olsun biraz gıcık ama hangimiz düzgünüz ki ?
Es ist euroleague final four, fans & spielern sollten nicht in den selben Hotel sich befinden. Ich bin Fenerbahce fan die wollten nur ihre freude raus lassen. Ergin Ataman hat ein persönliches Problem mit diesse Mannschaft. Wo er noch Trainer bei Anadolu Efes
Ganau! was machen die Fenerbahce fans da? Geniale Idee, alle Teams im selben Hotel mit Fans zusammenzubringen... Als Panathinaikos fan ich weiss nicht was das problem mit Ergin und Fener fans ist .
@@SympanProductions Der Trainer Ergin Ataman hat ein Ego-Problem und neigt immer dazu aus einer Mücke einen Elefanten zu machen. Selbst dem Familienvater im Hotel, der im ruhig ansprach begegnet er mit Zorn ubf Überreaktion. Peinliche Aktionen von Trainer, er muss da wesentlich professioneller reagieren aber manche Menschen ändern sich nicht mehr. Lieber die Botschaft und den Präsidenten anrufen für eine billige Ego-Show.
Die Fans haben wohl den Ergin Ataman Beleidigt, ich finde an dieser Stelle geht das gar nicht deswegen hat er Secruity& Polizisten angefordert die Fans zu gehen. Sonst kein Problem Fans & spielern in selben Hotel zu haben.
As a Pana fan, I don't like the drama, because it can distract the Pana players from the game. Ergin should calm down and focus on keeping his players composed and ready, instead of adding fuel to a fire that is clearly burning between him and Fener fans.
Pana fan here too.....every team,players need different things. Coach always knows better, either to calm the team or ignite a fire. All reports from yesterday referred to a "different" Juancho ,like nobody had ever seen before. Dont be surprised if he makes a carrier high game tomorrow... we ll see....
Ergin's former team has been involved in a doping scandal against Fenerbahce in the past. So, Ergin always creates tension and he is planning to use it on match day but it may backfire. He hates Fenerbahce and Fenerbahce hates him and it is personel regardles of which team he trains =)
Pana’s owner has shown much worst behaviour countless times against players of Oly or referees. These Fener “hooligans” are very polite compared to this guy
Ergin Ataman is a coach with character problems. He has a tainted history in this regard due to doping use in the teams he manages. In addition, he engages in provocations during F.Bahçe matches for an unknown reason and is trying to gain popularity by making especially the silent F.Bahçe fans his enemies. However, the doping story of his past will never be erased.
character problems, of course. who doesn't? do you have character problems? of course, you do, because every single person in the f. world has character problems. so, just say what you would like to offer and shut off
Dude don't you have a player that used to be doped all the time, in Fred? And you complained in UEFA about him, and then you bought him??? You are honestly a bunch of comedians. And that's all I am allowed to say.
In the video, Engin Ataman responds to chants of "doping" with "fuck you". Thereupon, Fenerbahçe fans chant more loudly, saying "Fenerbahçe fucks man". We watch the tense coach forget his own swearing and complain about the fans saying he is swearing at himself.
There is nothing related with Pana and Galatasaray in this video. During 2008-2009 season Turkish Basketball League Finals Ergin’s team Efes use Cathine as doping in 3rd match. Federation made tests for 2 Efes players and both of them was positive. After that Efes took the series from 0-2 to 4-2. And the “system” in Turkiye covers-up this scandal. Everbody knows that this was not limited with 2 players but was an organization. While he enters the hotel nobody cursed him but shouts to ergin “lets use doping again”. When he hears it, he starts cursing and than play the victim like always. He is not a good person but successful coach for sure. The hate of Fenerbahçe fans for him is not related with his success but his bad behaviours which is not limited with sports. He beats his ex-fiance and harm her sense of hearing. These are facts that everyone can learn from web. Shame on you Mr. Ataman!!!
Ergin ataman is a perfect fit for panathinaikos. Efes players caught doping, Mitoglou panathinaikos forward was banned two years for doping and panathinaikos president is a well known drug user. Usually cocaine and heroine
Θα θελα πολυ να σε βρει ο Γιαννακοπουλος και να σε τραβαει βιντεο οπως θα κλαις και θα λες δεν το γραψα εγω, ο μικρος μου αδερφος το εκανε κυριε γιαννακοπουλε σας παρακαλω αφηστε με.
Bırak yalan söylüyor taraflı olduğu için birsey dememişler tebiyesizler doğru konuşmuyorlar haklı çıkalım diye. Insan olsa doğruyu konsuur ama Fenerli işte
@@RüyaAlemi1 Mesut kendine musluman bir kardesimiz. Sadece kendine yapilana bakar. 10 sezondur adamin anasi karisi cocugu olmus babasi kalmadi. Her yerine kufur ettiler. Adamin size tahammulu yok.
Wtf.. Disgusting act for a sportsman. Many coaches and players were in same situation but i never saw anything like this. Just go to your room, info police and otel managers, and they ll clean the lobby and entrance for u while you were chilling in your room. If the fans had same agression with him, things could get worse. What a provacator showman.
What you are watching is a typical adult Ataman tactic. He will create tension and create his own advantage, but I don't think this tactic will work this time.
@@Eternaal403 At least our club don't have and didn't had any connection extreme Islamist terrorist organizations 😂, Tell your president not to let politicians squeeze his cheeks
Km takar yunnaistani ??? Saniyormusunuz ki yunanistan da tataftar mevcut ??? 1 tane sadece 1 tane avurupa da ki musabakalrda kavgadan galip cikan yunanistan taraftarini soylermisin ??? 100 kisiyle hrvat taraftarlar atinayi dagitti.n kknusuyrosun sn ??? Yunanistan da aranmadan salonlara stadlara giriliyor ceza yk.sn trkiye de boyle oluverdigini dusunsene ??? Thmini z kusagisin turk tarihini vs bilemiyorsun.yunanistani ovuyorsun tuhaf
@@yannisuno As a professional coach he must have heard WAY worse things from opposing fans. So in order to avoid making a bigger scene, yes just ignore them.
@@sofsi4002 my friend, professional or not, there is a limit on everything (in life). He has chosen not to ignore them and I personally don't blame him. Even better for Friday's game; piss him off, you are doing us a favour and you don't even realize it!
@@yannisuno how old are you? professional players and coaches are getting paid to ignore them. And there is no "attack" as he claims, they are just chanting. Your coach has a Fenerbahçe complex and trying to create a fake motivation as always...
That coach is f crazy man, if u are in that job you have to use to be get swearing from the other team fans, ı am not saying that normal but u have to be control your self those kinda things u have to be prepared your self those kinda things, no need to yelling other people absolutely f shame
Its Ataman style: He is always trying to be show his ego in every conditions. Fener fans had reminded doping and then he started to swear to fans. You are in a big challange Ataman and will see in match
in the match with Maccabi he tripled his show and came up to shoot free throws 35 times. This is a typical Ataman wiring. Fans of Barça, Maccabi, Crvena Zvezda. and now Fenerbahce. The Euroleague must suspend Ataman. But lm thinking Ataman have very strong lobbies
Σκάσε πια με τις βολές και τις βολές, έκαναν επίτηδες φάουλ στον Λεσόρτ τις μισές βολές τις ομάδας τις έκανε ο Λεσορτ επειδης είναι άστοχος τον έβαλαν σημάδι πάψε με το παραμύθι φάγατε του Nun το αγγούρι και σας πονάει
turkish fans chants 'use doping ergin ataman(his team did at 2009 in efes pilsen against FENERBAHCE)' and he pisses of and say f'ck off you all in turkish language , he uses bad words first
Panathinaikos always trying to create chaos everywhere and then complain about it. It’s a reflection of their owner, their coach and their players. It’s actually sad.
Τι λες βρε ηλίθιε; Πας και προκαλείς μια ομάδα μέσα στο ξενοδοχείο πριν τον αγώνα και περιμένεις να ακούσεις ευχαριστώ; Είστε τυχεροί που δεν ήταν οπαδοί του Παναθηναϊκού γιατί θα σας άνοιγαν τα κεφάλια. Σκατό Μογγόλοι
Let’s stop bullshitting. There is an attack against coach Ataman out of the game. It is a personal attack. Ok, some people may choose to not answer but we cannot say “don’t answer” to the ones who replies. He got attacked and responded. It is normal for me. When it is on the pitch, “a team representative” responsible of actions because s/he is professional and attackers are regular supporters. However, you are provocating a person when s/he checks-in to the hotel. So, no one has the right of saying “coach is guilty”. I hope Fenerbahçe wins the trophy and make us proud once again. And thanks a lot to coach Ataman for the representation of Turkish citizen and sportsperson.
they were just chanting Fenerbahçe, then Ataman saw them and cursed them in Turkish. THEN they approach and sing a curse chant. There is no attack as ataman claims, fans can chant whatever they want.
Fans outside didn't start the cursing rally actually. They just shouted about doping allegations back in the day when ataman was coach of efes. Some of players were on some banned substances. Than ataman replied with simple but effective fvxk off. Than all hell broke loose 😳
They weren't going to approach at first, they were just chanting "use doping again ataman", then Ataman, instead of ignoring a bunch of teenagers, got mad and started to curse at them. If you can't "take" opposing chants and fans, you shouldn't be doing this job...
@@hakan_demir973 you interpret things as it fits tou. Everybody saw aggressive fans, unattended attacking verbally a team that just arrived at the hotel. This is violence, not sports.
Nobody got close to Ataman, watch the video again. Ataman immediately began to swear at fans right after he got out of the bus. I can easily put all my money to it that Ataman planned this show beforehand.
@@soulsirius luckily for sane people German police, euroleague, Turkish and Greek embassies do not agree with you. Thugs should be in prison, not at athletic events.
@@diogrigor shut the f up if you don't know the Turkish language. It's clear who escalated the situation in the video OBVIOUSLY if you know beginner level Turkish. Next time think before you shame yourself like this :))
I'm just laughing at this guy, he's already acting like he's been victimized because he knows he'll be ahead of Fener on Friday. At the first opportunity he gets, he will ask his players if they will dope. I hope they don't dope. Meanwhile, while entering the hotel, a Fenerbahçe fan was shouting "doping" and this man responded to the fans by saying "fuck you". If a person just shouts, I understand what that person is worth. A test of patience for the Pana family, a security issue for this person and Euroleauge
In Turkey, we call him “Gergin Ataman“ because it rhymes with his name. It translates to something like moody/nervous/tense. It is even surprising how perfect that nickname is for him…
ruclips.net/video/OFkWi8tAzpc/видео.htmlsi=DNPHDcKUPLmVgBgN The Fener fans only made a chant like 'do some doping' and Ataman really realy exaggerated. He told them 'fuck off' and started cursing himself and then the Fener fans started chanting 'Fener f**s opponents up'. As a Fener fan I love Ataman but he really acted here. Just one of his tactics.
@Fenerbahce.Foreveractually there are many things you should ask cause your knowledge is dogshit. No player of Pana was ever found doped. Mitoglou was playing in Milano when found doped. Just so know before you speak.
There is no rivalry between Ergin Ataman and Fenerbahçe. For there to be a rivalry, both sides must have balanced strengths. While Ergin Ataman has won the European Cup 5 times, Fenerbahçe has only 1 European Cup. As usual, Fenerbahçe fans have acted like hooligans due to their inferiority complex.
His name is not Ergin we call him Gergin it means nervous. You know Fenerbahçe that’s why he is nervous and don’t control yourself. All over the world funs shout lyrics. Gergin no way
I saw some fans singing, i dont understand what they say but definately i dont see any attack on Mr Ataman. As for his reaction , we have a saying in greek, maybe turkish fans will be able to understand it too : Καραγκιοζιλίκια!! Euroleague should think twice next time they decide to support in many ways, even with friendly referees, a team, just because they threw some money here and there. After 12 long years, watching F4 with "binoculars" until now, and they behave like that... Great attitude!
Ataman has more Euroleagues than your whole club. If anyone's nervous, it's you, Ulkerspor. Which is why you pull stuff like that,, in the first place.
Ergin Ataman is absolutely RIGHT on this matter. The Fener fans are most unsympathetic around. They are also very unpopular in Türkiye and not without reason.
ataman and fenerbahce fans have been enemies for years. because Ataman is a huge Galatasaray fan. and he when gets off the bus, fenerbahce fans are swearing in Turkish. ataman will also give his answer on the field
Its a Euroleague Official Competition,Ataman(love or hate him)its right here, its not legal that fans can be so close on the hotel and near to the players,the security is bad here,Ataman talking about the security is correct, fans cant be so close,you dont know what they can do in those days. Fans are not supposed to be there its a rule for all teams for safety reasons.
"legal"? are you a lawyer or what. That idiot Ataman started cursing first. Fans were chanting "why don't you dope" (which his team did before hence this chant). Then Ataman cursed "Fuck off you all" and then he got what he deserved.
It is about a doping thing that happened 15 years ago when he was the coach of Anadolu Efes. Then Ataman says f**k off and they start chanting "Fenerbahçe f***s the man". The funny thing is that Fenerbahçe is a team that is caught buying matches and UEFA has them on their list as a match buying club. Still they accuse others lol
He has more Euroleague titles than Fener has as a whole. He will probably give you the same lesson he's been giving you all these years. The only sad thing is that Calathes is part of this team, a great player and a great guy.
@Fenerbahce.Forever Back when you wore orange and green? Forever Ulker, you'll be. Obradovic, Saras, Calathes, Papagiannis, Batiste. Face it. You are a wannabe Panathinaikos. And a 2nd class Maccabi.
After the defeat of Fenerbahce fans(football olympiacos),they attack against Panathinaikos Ataman. Look Fenerbahce fans,I want ask a question to you: Spiderman= Spider + man Batman= Bat + man Superman= Super + man Ottoman= ??? + Man (what is the otto?). Ataman= ??? + Man (what is the Ata?).
This is shame for Euroleague organization. ALL teams must be offered isolation and relax not having to defend themselves in front of other teams fans. What would have happened if Pana fans were there as well?
to ela na deis tha ginotan
@@spookyGangsta tha tous eixame mamisei ta prekia ayto tha ginotan. ta noyopana.
we, as Fener fans have nothing to do with Pana fans. we are brothers and sisters with them. ergin ataman is an exception haha
@@sertergunay And Ataman is our brother now, and whoever bothers our brothers will pay. You are lucky that we were not at the hotel yesterday.
@@PaoFootballClub hahahah listen tough boy, if Fener hooligans wanted to be there they would be there.
The fans in the video are just families with children coming to welcome their own team who stays in the same hotel.
As a Greek, I have to say that the Pana fans love him, regardless of whether he is Turkish or Greek.
Think about which big teams Pana and Fener defeated to get to the final four, we should all celebrate the big party together as friends.
Yeah bro thats what I dont understand. I am Turkish and I support Pana against Fenerbahçe tomorrow👍🏼
@@musacloud Because you're a simp Gala boy, sevgili Musa.
@@musacloud You are not a Turkish anymore if you support a Greek team instead of Turkish team.
@@musacloud And also an Efes/Galatasaray/Besiktas fan. Eh?
hahha yes you decide my nationality right 😂
terrible organisation in this respect. Would not expect Germany to organise so shit the arrival. If Panathinaikos fans were there, and even with the players there , the stuff could go worse.
congratulations PAO! It was very nice to celebrate the Galatasaray championship on the same day with Coach Ataman. You should always trust this man, he is a character who will defend you everywhere.
As a Greek, I must state the obvious fact that it takes just a little spark for things to heat up instantly and out of nowhere violence to emerge
ataman is an asshole
Ergin ataman feneri önce otelden so rada finalfour dan kovdu.
Kovdumu? Baska bisey mj yapti?😂
@@tserpen1 evet s....i.
Siz nerdesiniz..😂😂😂
Fark etmez küfür güzel yedi sonra agladi, daha cok aglicak, yanliz ben orada olsaydim lafda ya küfür de kalmazdi.
How stupid is it if all the teams are in the same hotel .Every team should have their own hotel .
Adam yrip yunnaistan takiminla klnusulmaz bilr.avurupanin cop ulkesi diye biliniyor zaten yunanistan niye dkkate aliniyor.zaten 10 000 holigan turks gelir trubunlere galibiyetimize
fenerbahce ile panatikos arasinda.yunanistani svmiyoruz svmiyecegiz.ege de ki adalarimiz yunanistan isigalin de.maalesef z kusagina sunlar soylenmiyor turk tarihi bilinmiyor.hani avurpa brligii için yanip tutusanlar mevcut ya sunalr iyi biliversinler avurupa brligine girebilmemizin enigeli yunanistandir.avurupa disinda klmamizi isiteyen ulke yunanistandir
Gay olimpiakos gay panatiakos.10 000 holigans turk in salon
Ο ΟΛΥΜΠΙΑΚΟΣ ΣΑΣ ΕΧΕΙ ΓΑΜΗΣΕΙ ΠΟΛΕΣ ΦΟΡΕΣ ΚΑΙ ΠΟΔΟΣΦΑΙΡΟ ΚΑΙ ΜΠΑΣΚΕΤ ΚΑΙ ΘΑ ΣΑΣ ΞΑΝΑΓΑΜΗΣΕΙ!!!
@@opopopopokksbsbbs olympiakos treat you well in football now panathinaikos turn in basketball. go take a dna test janissary
When Pana team arrived, Fenerbahce fans started to sing "Ergin Ataman, why don't you use doping" it is an ancient thing between him and Fenerbahce fans, over a decade ago when some of his players used doping in Turkish league. So, to anger him, the fans were chanting the same thing, and almost every game they chant this. When Ergin Ataman heard it upon arrival, he said "Fuck Off!" and after that fans started to sing "Fenerbahce fucks anyone no matter who", pointing out the result of the derby result between galatasaray and Fenerbahce 4 days ago (gs 0-1 fb). The fans inside the hotel were tellting hime "Coach please dont do this, please" and Ergin was just yelling around like a bullied kid, typical of him.
Thanks for the translation because I was very curious about what they was telling him!
How does that insinuate pointing out the derby result? They always chant like this
Those people inside the hotel looked like a familly who wanted their kids to take a picture with their idols,coach should have not put them in the same aspect as the 4 monkeys in the entrance of the hotel.Respect people,but it should be from all sides! Besides there's no reason to fight,Olympiakos is gonna lift the trophy
Παρτε τα πουλμαν και φυγετε. Κανατε χοντρη πατατια.
@murkhezan You look cute on your profile picture.
im Olympiakos and besides that i enjoyed the show of Ataman the bad thing for Fener is that now they are the ones that doping the Panthinaikos players and thats gonna has the oposite result for Fener.
now Fener has already way less chance to go to the finals after the motivation that they gave to Panathinaikos players.
I do not think so. Basketball is not like that.
@@codingstyle9480 wait and see, i will be here waitting for you on friday night after the game and we will see how basket works.
im not even like this im Olympiakos i wish Fener to destroy and humiliate Panathinaikos but... you did a big mistake and now you will pay for it my neighbour.
@@teosxoreston Παπάρια θα πληρωσουν, αν ειναι να τον πιουν οι βαζελοι θα τον πιουν. Δεν χαμπαριάζουν οι οι παίχτες απο τέτοια.
@@teosxoreston At the end we will meet us in the final. Good luck to Olympiacos against Real
Haydi Fener!
@@rb_tk8525 from the moment that ALL teams are on the same hotel , fans shouldnt be allowed around the hotel. It is a matter of safety. We have Greek rival teams like Panathinaikos and Olympiakos. We have a Spanish team and a Turkish team. Let fans scream and swear in the stadium. Around the hotel is dangerous. I dont care what Ataman says or do he had to protect his team. Also the same will do if Panathinaikos fans started to yell with anger at Olympiakos staff. But the wrong in all this is that Euroleague let ALL teams in the same hotel. You do that? ok also as euroleague and german police take some serious protection for all this. I hope the best team wins and to see nice basketball.
Ataman loves and enjoys this tension.
in 2009, two efes players were tested for doping and the prohibited substance cathine was detected. the coach of efes was ergin ataman at that time and due to this scandal, fenerbahçe fans started chanting doping slogans. in the video the fans are chanting the same slogan they’ve been chanting for years. and after that ataman is getting angry and shouting “f*ck off” at the fans. then the fans are replying with the “fenerbahçe f*cks the man” chant. he gets even more angry and continues yelling at people after he went inside despite other group of fenerbahçe fans trying to calm him down.
His mentality fits perfectly with the club he works for!
@@MrManosss7 Of all people, YOU, with Bartzokas should nt talk.He makes Ataman look like an amateur.
@@MrManosss7 The club he works for, has more European Cups and National League Titles than both of you combined.
Throw original Ulker in the mix too, if you like. I still have you.
Bro, Alvertis alone has more Euroleagues than both of you.
Thanks for giving context in the video!
@@DimShamrock first of all I commented the mentality (of the owner probably) and not the history of the club. Secondly the club is not just the basketball team. Good night and good luck
Bu adamı severim sevmem ,yada seversiniz sevmezsiniz , bu ayrı bir tartışma konusudur, fakat ilk bocalamasından sonra dikkat edin kötü durumu fırsata çevirdi, konuyu genişletti ve aslında maçı o anda orada başlattı ,kendini ve oyuncuları motive etti, pana fener maçı otelde başladı fener oyuncuları o ortamda değilken panalı oyuncuları hırs bastı. özet budur.
Profesör olayı çözdün hemen maşallah
First of all, what few Fener fans did was something unacceptable. Very disrespectful to say the least. In the end he is the headcoach of Turkish national team as well. Nobody has such rights to disturb anybody like that, regardless of the person’s position. With these said, in my eyes Ataman used this occasion to turn it to a theatre. He should just walk away but he responded to the guys with swearing. In any circumstance, it’s no good for a sportsman, a coach of Panathinaikos and Turkish national team. I am as a Turk, embarrassed for both those guys and Ataman’s attitudes..There were familes there with kids, they didn’t do anything wrong but Ataman put everyone in the same box there, something very impolite and unfair. Someone can do something wrong against you but this doesn’t give anyone a right to reflect this wrong to innocent people. Two wrongs doesn’t make one right. Ataman is doing these on purpose, we all know this. We all die one day but we will be bringing our souls with us, not the trophies, medals, money, fame etc. He can win many trophies in his life but Ataman is loosing many people’s hearts in Turkey by forgetting he is the coach of the Turkish national team.
In the end everyone saw who f.cked who. Good job Legend Ataman!
That has nothing to do with Pana believe me. The history between Ataman & fenerbahce runs so deep you can't even imagine. :)))). Because Ataman is a hard core Galatasaray fan not only he is a registered member of the club. Like myself. He was the coach of Gala and Efes in Turkey. And Fener fans hated Ataman so much. Because he won against them a lot. Pana players just experienced the heat betweeen Gala & Fenerbahce. Fener fans should be more clever by not raising up the tension. As a old turkish proverb says "Rüzgar ekersen, fırtına biçersin." meaning "If you sow the wind, you'll reap a hurricane."
Abi bu söz her dilde var yüzlerce senedir bize ibaret değil yani almanlarda orta cagidan beri kullaniyor 😂
Wer wild sät wird sturm ernten. Almancasi
Jajajaja es un refrán internacional, no turco
I LIKE ATAMAN AND HIS SHOW, I AM OLYMPIACOS FAN AND I WOULD LIKE TO SEE HIM IN MY TEAM BECAUSE HE DROPS THE BEST PUNCHLINES
does anyone know what the fener fans are chanting in the beginning? is it a chant against him?
Ergin Ataman is a coach with character problems. He has a tainted history in this regard due to doping use in the teams he manages. In addition, he engages in provocations during F.Bahçe matches for an unknown reason and is trying to gain popularity by making especially the silent F.Bahçe fans his enemies. However, the doping story of his past will never be erased.
@@selcukonce Very silent. Just like the video shows. 🤣🤣🤣
they say Fener fucks you
They not swearing. Ataman swearing firstly
@@Godslayer-cc4zj if that's the case, he one the one who caused this
he is right.. it was unthinkable that Fener Fans were waiting for Ataman and Pao and got into the hotel without even being guests.. that is dangerous and not fair for the players who need relaxation and rest
PAO fans in the comments are irritated and they have every right to be.
At the same time back in Greece they provoke Bartzokas in every single game by swearing, spiting him and wishing death to his family members. And when he reacts they start complaining that he provokes the fans in OAKA and instigates violence. Double standards. They are really pathetic.
Φιλαράκο αυτός που βρίζει μανάδες είναι ο σκακιστής σας και το δείχνει καθαρά στο βίντεο όταν τού λέει ο άλλος 'γειά σου Μπαρτζωκα' του απαντάει ο...σκακιστής τής...μανας σου το....
Εισαι σοβαρος τωρα; Εχεις δει τι κανει ο κοουτς σας 3 χρονια τωρα ρε Παθετικ;
Το κινουμενο καρτουν; Που δεν σεβεται Χριστους, Παναγιες, Παιχτες, Βοηθους, Αντιπαλους;
We dont go the hotel that Bartzokas sleeps to swear on him. We do it during the match. I am sure every coach and player that has beef with another team, hears the same things during the game
What are the scientists do for every coach in trouba arena besides screaming goal in every hoop?
You and your team Fener is pathetic you will see tomorrow
This is classic Ergin ...We call him ergen= teenager because he acts like one. Cries, creates unnecessary stress, make up stuff to fool people. What he was supposed to do is to walk by those fans and ignore them. But Ergen curses at them while fans didn't curse at him at first. All those people asking if they did it to you, what would you do ? That is a stupid question...
I'm a Fener fan that was in the hotel during the incident. If you want to hear what really happened, here it is:
Fener team stays in the same hotel and arrived about two hours ago before Panathinaikos. Many Fener fans were there to greet the team with flares and chants.
After the team checked into the hotel, some fans stayed to get autographs from the players and take pictures with them. Some families were also staying in the same hotel, so they were checking in at the lobby as well. When Pana bus approached, 10-15 fans outside the hotel started chanting "Ergin Ataman, use doping again". This is a classic slogan that Fener fans use against Ataman, because of his notorious "cathine" scandal back in 2009 against Fener. All 3 randomly selected players of his were found to be using cathine, and they were subsequently punished by the Turkish Federation. Anyways, upon hearing this chant Ergin went bananas and started cussing in Turkish. "Siktirin lan, siktirin gidin lan, hassiktir" which means "go f... yourselves, f... off". Fener fans responded by marching closer to him and chanting "Fenerbahçe siker adamı" which means "Fenerbahce f.... whoever comes in our way". Ergin got scared and started to shout "where is the security, where is the Euroleague etc." and went inside. I should point out that none of the fans had anything to do with Pana players, nobody tried anything, not even against Ergin. He was always at least 5 meters away from the fans. Once he went in, he started his drama as usual and started to scream "they attacked me, in front of the door, where is the police, f... this organization, f... Euroleague". Some Fener families inside the hotel tried to calm him down, but he screamed at them as well and had them kicked out by the security. They were families with small girls. Now I'm hearing that Ergin is claiming to be attacked by the German police as well and had called Turkish president Erdogan and Turkish Foreign Minister. This is his typical drama queen behavior, trying to motivate his team and his fans and tries to create enmity between Fener and Pana fans, that could result in very bad outcomes. Please do not fall into his trap, he is a clown.
yes, he's a f..... clown, back to back champion clown.
does Fenerbahçe have a Turkish coach, trained in club, as Efes Pilsen/Anadolu Efes, has a Euroleague trophy?
@@bulentulukan5 Your comment is irrelevant, such as your presence here, simp Gala boy.
@@bulentulukan5 Diego, for God's sake, it's already a mess.
First of all, he didn't get scared. He got angry. He didn't want any distractions. As any professional coach would do in the F4.
Secondly, we know what siktirin means. We use it. And we felt exactly the same. You had absolutely no business there.
Finally, "Fener fans responded by marching closer to him". Don't you see a single problem in that sentence?
We didn't need motivation. F4 is motivation enough. You made a big mistake.
By the way i think Fener team is in the same hotel. That's why Fener fans are in the hotel.
I dont think fenerbahce is in same hotel as pana
fener in the same hotel
Even if Fener is at the same hotel , wich is not, fans are not supposed to be there .That is a rule for all teams for safety reasons
@@ChMNTZ all teams are at the same hotel. euroleague organized that
No fans should be there. These were hooligans
Euroleague was prepared with a cameraman to capture the arrival of Panathinaikos; however, security measures for such an occasion were overlooked. Τhis is only the initial phase, with two Greek teams and their supporters in Berlin, alongside a Turkish team... German police arrives late and then play the Sheriff.. WHAT THE FUCK
yeah, that's right. (like David Puddy says) :)
I'm guessing this might be a basketnews cameraman. They tend to travel wherever they can and capture this stuff.
came for this.
fenerbahce fans doing nothing at the beginning they just chanting. he is the one cursing fans first. then fener fans cursing back. what a clown
@@haloxGOD did I mention Fener fans and you're answering like that? The concern is about quick escalation from all sides due to lack of proper planning skills by the hosting organization.
Thank you so much for this. The team need something like this to be ready for the first game cause everyone looks like they are thinking for the final and not the game in Friday now they are gonna be ready
😂😂😂
Did you start doping preparations on Friday?
Did you book your Bus Trips back for Friday?
@@DimShamrock Don't forget to swim on your way back to your country on Friday.
WE LIKE TURKISH GIRLS...PREPARE..YOU KNOW LIKE MYKONOS
back to back. back to back. first achieve that, then speak.
@@freedomtoultras mykonos? You mean our backyard? :)))
There is also a video showing the Fener "fans" attacking members of Panathinaikos staff, as well as Lessort who was with his wife and kid. Of course, when he told them "Come here", no one dared to come close. Typical "hooligans". I understand that Ataman has hurt them waaaaaay too much in his years with Efes, I didn't expect anything different from them, since they see another Ataman hit coming to them.
Where did you find the other video?
@@n_bou1 I believe we should have the shot of players interaction with the fans too, will include it in the vlog that's coming out tomorrow
no one attacked anyone kid, stop lying and trying to create false motivations.
@@BasketNews_com omg you answered to me. I am a big fan🙂🙂😆
@ibokaya511 how do you know where you there?
Ergin atamana yapılanları bir Türk olarak kınıyorum
Yunistanda şampiyon yaptıgı panatinaykos kutluyorum
Bir Türk olarak şampiyonluk maçı öyle bir çoşkuyla tüm Türkiye ye seyrettik ve destekledik tebrikler
Ναι καλα δεν εισαι τουρκος λες ψεματα
Ergin Ataman always fights with anyone or any team. This is not first or last scandal of him. Fenerbahçe's fans are bad, Maccabi's fans are bad, Barcelona's fans are bad but just Ergin Ataman good!
So you are fine with the fact that anyone over there if wanted could harm Ataman easily. You don’t know how to act objectively when it comes to your holliganist actions.
Ataman is a great trainer.
Adamın dibi Ergın Ataman
Olm adami cekemiyorsunuz. sayginiz yok 5 kere avrupa sampiyonlugu kazanmis bir adama. Cekemiyorsunuz. Ama adam size gome gome ogretiyor.
The fans did not curse him, they were chanting for their team. Even if the did curse him, a “professional” coach could ignore it. And why is he yelling at the fans who did not have a word for him ?
In recent years, Fenerbahçe and in general the Turkish teams in football and basketball have received many blow jobs from the Greek teams...
Where is Eurolig . Where is security. Where is Turkish army. Where is NATO.
breaking news: World War 3 started because of Ataman
Ahshdshsalsdjsj
Bir fenerbahçeli olarak söylüyorum adam haklı
Ulan varya gercekten senin gibi fenerli oldugunu gormek bir umut isigi dogurdu fener taraftarina karsi. Bravo
There is no attack against the rest of Pana by the fans. Ergin makes drama like always he did.
When you attack the coach, you attack the team.
Cnc to your family
Cnc to your fml
Ergin makes drama again and f..ks fener again two days later. He is just great.
Yaptıkları çok ayıp ve terbiyesizlik bence kimse bu muameleyi hak etmiyor hele böyle saygıdeğer birisi ❤kendisini seviyorum
Havaalanından sonra sahada da becermişsin bravo ergin hoca
Why make a show, stir everyone up and end with yelling to a guy with three kids to get out of the hotel? If you had two pairs of manhood you would walk inside, tell your team to get ready and mind their business and then as a man walk outside with 2 security guards and confront the what 8? fans if you really feel like they said anything horrific to you. In that way it would be over, but noo he was 1 step away from requesting aid from the German army..
Bir Fener taraftarı olarak söylüyorum bence herkese pasaport verilmemeli
this loser does the same thing every time. he will never get any respect.
and this is berlin. he should know better and think twice before cussing fans.
when things escalate he runs into the hotel and leaves his players with angry fans.
loser have 5 european cup. who is the loser.
Most of you miss the point with subjective comments and dealing with the fact only with fan criteria. Certainly Ataman's behavior of behaving like a hooligan does not honor him to put it mildly. Especially if one takes into account that his role is to prepare the team by keeping it calm and focused.
Regardless of his behavior, the fact that fans are so close to the hotel where the team is staying is unacceptable. This incident is a big failure for the organization of the euroleague.
Also, the supporters of Fenerbahçe in the playoffs match in Istanbul showed great disrespect to the Monaco players and they did it again in Berlin!!!
The Euroleague is a celebration for everyone without borders and discrimination, but disrespecting the teams is a red line for me!!!!
Ergin Ataman fena düdüklemiş👏👏👏👏👏
Ben bu adamdan nefret ediyordum arkasından da çok küfür etmiştim, bir daha kötü konuşmayacam adam haklı, babası da ölmüş 1 ay önce dün gördüm üzüldüm, bakmayın rekabete ben bu adama saygı duydum dün bahtı açık olsun biraz gıcık ama hangimiz düzgünüz ki ?
Es ist euroleague final four, fans & spielern sollten nicht in den selben Hotel sich befinden.
Ich bin Fenerbahce fan die wollten nur ihre freude raus lassen. Ergin Ataman hat ein persönliches Problem mit diesse Mannschaft.
Wo er noch Trainer bei Anadolu Efes
Ganau! was machen die Fenerbahce fans da? Geniale Idee, alle Teams im selben Hotel mit Fans zusammenzubringen... Als Panathinaikos fan ich weiss nicht was das problem mit Ergin und Fener fans ist .
@@SympanProductions Der Trainer Ergin Ataman hat ein Ego-Problem und neigt immer dazu aus einer Mücke einen Elefanten zu machen. Selbst dem Familienvater im Hotel, der im ruhig ansprach begegnet er mit Zorn ubf Überreaktion. Peinliche Aktionen von Trainer, er muss da wesentlich professioneller reagieren aber manche Menschen ändern sich nicht mehr. Lieber die Botschaft und den Präsidenten anrufen für eine billige Ego-Show.
Die Fans haben wohl den Ergin Ataman Beleidigt, ich finde an dieser Stelle geht das gar nicht deswegen hat er Secruity& Polizisten angefordert die Fans zu gehen.
Sonst kein Problem Fans & spielern in selben Hotel zu haben.
adama yapılan büyuk ayıp . Türkiye'nin bir spor markası .
As a Pana fan, I don't like the drama, because it can distract the Pana players from the game. Ergin should calm down and focus on keeping his players composed and ready, instead of adding fuel to a fire that is clearly burning between him and Fener fans.
Pana fan here too.....every team,players need different things. Coach always knows better, either to calm the team or ignite a fire. All reports from yesterday referred to a "different" Juancho ,like nobody had ever seen before. Dont be surprised if he makes a carrier high game tomorrow... we ll see....
Ergin atamanı Türkiye'de Fenerbahçe taraftarı hep sikmistir.. o yüzden bağırıp çağırıyor.kibir abidesi.
@@kynegeirosA Dont worry man Hayes, Pierre,.Sestina,.Motley and. Big Papa.will destroy Juancho and Lessort 😂
@@opopopopokksbsbbsAtaman's your dad now. :)
Ergin's former team has been involved in a doping scandal against Fenerbahce in the past. So, Ergin always creates tension and he is planning to use it on match day but it may backfire. He hates Fenerbahce and Fenerbahce hates him and it is personel regardles of which team he trains =)
ve yine size gtten bastı ingilizce yazmakla uğraşamayacam böyle kabul et alışıksın zaten.
Fener kim olum, Allah'ın ezikleri
İşte Türk Ataman.❤
Pana’s owner has shown much worst behaviour countless times against players of Oly or referees. These Fener “hooligans” are very polite compared to this guy
Απο τον πρεζεμπορα σας καραπαπαρες κουγια κοσκωταδες π δίδαξαν ήθος... χίλιες φορές Γιαννακόπουλο...
Oly's headcoach has shown worst behaviour by trying to physicaly attack euroleague refferies and cursing them during and after the game.
You are not allowed to speak when your coach is the garbage subhuman Bartzokas!
where did you see olympiakos coach physicaly trying to punch a refferie?😂
Πονεμένε άντε να κοιμηθείς σε περιμένει πούτσα την Παρασκευή
Ergin Ataman is a coach with character problems. He has a tainted history in this regard due to doping use in the teams he manages. In addition, he engages in provocations during F.Bahçe matches for an unknown reason and is trying to gain popularity by making especially the silent F.Bahçe fans his enemies. However, the doping story of his past will never be erased.
oglum herkes anasina sovdurecek kadar gevsek degil ,yavsaklik yapma
Ο πανιβλακας της ημέρας....
character problems, of course. who doesn't? do you have character problems? of course, you do, because every single person in the f. world has character problems. so, just say what you would like to offer and shut off
Dude don't you have a player that used to be doped all the time, in Fred?
And you complained in UEFA about him, and then you bought him???
You are honestly a bunch of comedians. And that's all I am allowed to say.
In the video, Engin Ataman responds to chants of "doping" with "fuck you". Thereupon, Fenerbahçe fans chant more loudly, saying "Fenerbahçe fucks man". We watch the tense coach forget his own swearing and complain about the fans saying he is swearing at himself.
There is nothing related with Pana and Galatasaray in this video. During 2008-2009 season Turkish Basketball League Finals Ergin’s team Efes use Cathine as doping in 3rd match. Federation made tests for 2 Efes players and both of them was positive. After that Efes took the series from 0-2 to 4-2. And the “system” in Turkiye covers-up this scandal. Everbody knows that this was not limited with 2 players but was an organization. While he enters the hotel nobody cursed him but shouts to ergin “lets use doping again”. When he hears it, he starts cursing and than play the victim like always. He is not a good person but successful coach for sure. The hate of Fenerbahçe fans for him is not related with his success but his bad behaviours which is not limited with sports. He beats his ex-fiance and harm her sense of hearing. These are facts that everyone can learn from web. Shame on you Mr. Ataman!!!
Ergin ataman is a perfect fit for panathinaikos. Efes players caught doping, Mitoglou panathinaikos forward was banned two years for doping and panathinaikos president is a well known drug user. Usually cocaine and heroine
Druginaikos xd
Μίλησε ο ΟΠΑΔΟΣ που ο πρόεδρος του πιάστηκε με 2 τόνους ΗΡΩΙΝΗΣ και δολοφόνησε 7 μέλη του πληρώματος NOOR ONE😂
akomh xrwstane oi dikoi sou sto ellhinko dhmosio kati ekatontades muria , giauto pesate a2 kai allaksate afm se anaptiksiakos b
Θα θελα πολυ να σε βρει ο Γιαννακοπουλος και να σε τραβαει βιντεο οπως θα κλαις και θα λες δεν το γραψα εγω, ο μικρος μου αδερφος το εκανε κυριε γιαννακοπουλε σας παρακαλω αφηστε με.
It's not your fault. It's Basketnews for allowing comments like yours, and blocking mine.
But I expected it.
No one said a single bad word at the beginning. But unsurprisingly, Ataman was provoking the fans as always.
Mesut biri sana emanetçi çocuğu derse ne yaparsin mesut
@@RüyaAlemi1 karini mi emanet etmek istiyorsun? Cuckold fantazisi ha, guzel... "bull" ariyorsan ben gonulluyum
Bırak yalan söylüyor taraflı olduğu için birsey dememişler tebiyesizler doğru konuşmuyorlar haklı çıkalım diye. Insan olsa doğruyu konsuur ama Fenerli işte
@@RüyaAlemi1 Mesut kendine musluman bir kardesimiz. Sadece kendine yapilana bakar. 10 sezondur adamin anasi karisi cocugu olmus babasi kalmadi. Her yerine kufur ettiler. Adamin size tahammulu yok.
Ağla 10 dilde ağla
My experience so far has taught me that every country, regardless how "organized" or "developed" it is, can really mess up anything.
Yes but greece is not developed country
@@omerf7220 irrelevant comment
@@omerf7220 If Greece is not, then Turkey is a shithole.
@@omerf7220 Well more developed than Turkey and rest of Balkans at least
Damn... this is a Great Prolog for the match on Friday. Can’t wait
Gay olimpaikoas gay panatiakos.10 000 holigans turks in saloonn.
Wtf.. Disgusting act for a sportsman. Many coaches and players were in same situation but i never saw anything like this. Just go to your room, info police and otel managers, and they ll clean the lobby and entrance for u while you were chilling in your room. If the fans had same agression with him, things could get worse. What a provacator showman.
+1
What you are watching is a typical adult Ataman tactic. He will create tension and create his own advantage, but I don't think this tactic will work this time.
and then u woke up...
Ataman obviously watching too much turkish drama series.
He watches porn with your mum
He is such a dramaqueen. Maybe he was just mad because Fener humiliated Gs last week
@@TurquazCannabiz How happy are God's losers, who have not been a champion for 10 years with just one victory :))
@@Eternaal403 ingilizce ogren otist
@@Eternaal403 At least our club don't have and didn't had any connection extreme Islamist terrorist organizations 😂, Tell your president not to let politicians squeeze his cheeks
Not gonna be surprised if we see Ataman complain when Turkish fans bring in Fenerbache flags or shirts during UEFA Euro
it is very clear that ataman made these movements to motivate his own team and fans
No way he made the fans do these stuff. Gate 13 arrives today in Berlin, it may become really messy. You don't play with these things...
Fenerbahçe'yi kucumsene.. Yunan nüfusunun 3 katı fenerbahceli olduğunu unutma..
Kapı 13 değil 133 olsa farketmez bize
@@opopopopokksbsbbs γαμω την μανα σου μαλακα φασιστα
@@Uskudarl-du6jd relax man before to become real turkeys...we will come today,come to find out if it s allah exist
Km takar yunnaistani ??? Saniyormusunuz ki yunanistan da tataftar mevcut ??? 1 tane sadece 1 tane avurupa da ki musabakalrda kavgadan galip cikan yunanistan taraftarini soylermisin ??? 100 kisiyle hrvat taraftarlar atinayi dagitti.n kknusuyrosun sn ??? Yunanistan da aranmadan salonlara stadlara giriliyor ceza yk.sn trkiye de boyle oluverdigini dusunsene ??? Thmini z kusagisin turk tarihini vs bilemiyorsun.yunanistani ovuyorsun tuhaf
I don't get it? Why not just ignore them?
Ignore them??? If someone is taunting YOU, are you going to "ignore" them?
@@yannisuno As a professional coach he must have heard WAY worse things from opposing fans. So in order to avoid making a bigger scene, yes just ignore them.
@@sofsi4002 my friend, professional or not, there is a limit on everything (in life). He has chosen not to ignore them and I personally don't blame him. Even better for Friday's game; piss him off, you are doing us a favour and you don't even realize it!
@@yannisuno how old are you? professional players and coaches are getting paid to ignore them. And there is no "attack" as he claims, they are just chanting. Your coach has a Fenerbahçe complex and trying to create a fake motivation as always...
I think he already wanted it to be that way and knew it.
That coach is f crazy man, if u are in that job you have to use to be get swearing from the other team fans, ı am not saying that normal but u have to be control your self those kinda things u have to be prepared your self those kinda things, no need to yelling other people absolutely f shame
Its Ataman style: He is always trying to be show his ego in every conditions. Fener fans had reminded doping and then he started to swear to fans. You are in a big challange Ataman and will see in match
ergin ataman helal olsun
where is the security???
they do not have any security as a team why spend money there
Ataman swore first. He could have reacted without swearing. Ataman should think about why such things happen to him
what was he saying with the fener fans?
1:30
I love basketball specially european one, but Euroleague organizers are amateurish and incompetent at that.
Ergin Ataman The King
in the match with Maccabi he tripled his show and came up to shoot free throws 35 times. This is a typical Ataman wiring. Fans of Barça, Maccabi, Crvena Zvezda. and now Fenerbahce. The Euroleague must suspend Ataman. But lm thinking Ataman have very strong lobbies
Σκάσε πια με τις βολές και τις βολές, έκαναν επίτηδες φάουλ στον Λεσόρτ τις μισές βολές τις ομάδας τις έκανε ο Λεσορτ επειδης είναι άστοχος τον έβαλαν σημάδι πάψε με το παραμύθι φάγατε του Nun το αγγούρι και σας πονάει
Want to hear a joke? He's Georgian.
Do you know the colour of basketball buddy, or are you trying to find the edges of it?
Typical soap forget that the 12 free shots was a command from their coach to do those fouls cause Lesort shoot under 50% in the series ...
turkish fans chants 'use doping ergin ataman(his team did at 2009 in efes pilsen against FENERBAHCE)' and he pisses of and say f'ck off you all in turkish language , he uses bad words first
ΜΠΡΑΒΟ ΑΤΑΜΑΝ. ΤΟΥΣ ΕΔΩΣΕΣ ΚΑΛΟ ΜΑΘΗΜΑ ΣΤΟΥΣ ΟΠΑΔΟΥΣ ΤΗΣ ΦΕΝΕΡΜΠΑΧΤΣΕ. 👍👍✌️✌️
How will be able he enter to turkey ???
No one likes fener so
İts not about panathinkos,we respect them.the coach of them is enemy of Fenerbahçe,whereever he goes,he ll see us
what he shouts at you ?
And you'll see him with his hands in the air. And hear him saying "I won the Cup".
@@vasiliskoutonias Don't you have a remote desert island to go play the DJ at? Ainte. Move.
He say “ fuck you “
@@DimShamrock μη ζηλεύεις ρε κατσαπλια
Panathinaikos always trying to create chaos everywhere and then complain about it. It’s a reflection of their owner, their coach and their players. It’s actually sad.
Τι λες βρε ηλίθιε; Πας και προκαλείς μια ομάδα μέσα στο ξενοδοχείο πριν τον αγώνα και περιμένεις να ακούσεις ευχαριστώ; Είστε τυχεροί που δεν ήταν οπαδοί του Παναθηναϊκού γιατί θα σας άνοιγαν τα κεφάλια. Σκατό Μογγόλοι
Στο Βερολίνο ο παναθηναικοΣ έχει σηκώσει το τελευταίο τρόπαιο το 6 πριν από 12 έτη.... Μόνον τυχαίο δεν είναι ότι επιστρέφει εκεί. ❤
Let’s stop bullshitting. There is an attack against coach Ataman out of the game. It is a personal attack. Ok, some people may choose to not answer but we cannot say “don’t answer” to the ones who replies. He got attacked and responded. It is normal for me.
When it is on the pitch, “a team representative” responsible of actions because s/he is professional and attackers are regular supporters. However, you are provocating a person when s/he checks-in to the hotel. So, no one has the right of saying “coach is guilty”.
I hope Fenerbahçe wins the trophy and make us proud once again. And thanks a lot to coach Ataman for the representation of Turkish citizen and sportsperson.
Να κερδίσει το τρόπαιο!!!! Μάλλον κοιμάσαι..... ΞΎΠΝΑ επιτέλους. Το απόγευμα θα χάσεις με 20 πόντους.
How on earth are allowed fans to approach the teams like that?Where is the security? That's a not a good look for fener also.Sending Hooligans
they were just chanting Fenerbahçe, then Ataman saw them and cursed them in Turkish. THEN they approach and sing a curse chant. There is no attack as ataman claims, fans can chant whatever they want.
@@hakan_demir973 R Y DRANK OR STH ???
@@freedompleszville2702 no i'm not drunk. thanks for asking.
@@freedompleszville2702 Are you? WTF IS THAT.
@@freedompleszville2702 Blyattifull English bro
Fans outside didn't start the cursing rally actually. They just shouted about doping allegations back in the day when ataman was coach of efes. Some of players were on some banned substances. Than ataman replied with simple but effective fvxk off. Than all hell broke loose 😳
He has every right to complain. It s unacceptable to allow fans of a rival team to get so close to him! So much for german security!!!
They weren't going to approach at first, they were just chanting "use doping again ataman", then Ataman, instead of ignoring a bunch of teenagers, got mad and started to curse at them. If you can't "take" opposing chants and fans, you shouldn't be doing this job...
@@hakan_demir973 you interpret things as it fits tou. Everybody saw aggressive fans, unattended attacking verbally a team that just arrived at the hotel. This is violence, not sports.
Nobody got close to Ataman, watch the video again. Ataman immediately began to swear at fans right after he got out of the bus. I can easily put all my money to it that Ataman planned this show beforehand.
@@soulsirius luckily for sane people German police, euroleague, Turkish and Greek embassies do not agree with you. Thugs should be in prison, not at athletic events.
@@diogrigor shut the f up if you don't know the Turkish language. It's clear who escalated the situation in the video OBVIOUSLY if you know beginner level Turkish. Next time think before you shame yourself like this :))
where is seküriti
I'm just laughing at this guy, he's already acting like he's been victimized because he knows he'll be ahead of Fener on Friday. At the first opportunity he gets, he will ask his players if they will dope. I hope they don't dope. Meanwhile, while entering the hotel, a Fenerbahçe fan was shouting "doping" and this man responded to the fans by saying "fuck you". If a person just shouts, I understand what that person is worth. A test of patience for the Pana family, a security issue for this person and Euroleauge
noldu lan
northernsamiko. he had the last laugh again. ben de Fenerliyim ama Sezar'ın hakkı Sezar'a.
Gtten yedin yine
no blocking! Ergin ataman hate for fenerbahce fans.
In Turkey, we call him “Gergin Ataman“ because it rhymes with his name. It translates to something like moody/nervous/tense. It is even surprising how perfect that nickname is for him…
In turkey we say fener ağlama because since 10 years they crying for success but rather making politik with a Western schooled pic baskan
Yanliz gergin gergin size ne cakiyor ne cakiyor. Bagirtiniz buradan duyuluyor.
Asil gergin olan bu fener taraftari hahaha
and now .... He is the master of europe !
ruclips.net/video/OFkWi8tAzpc/видео.htmlsi=DNPHDcKUPLmVgBgN
The Fener fans only made a chant like 'do some doping' and Ataman really realy exaggerated.
He told them 'fuck off' and started cursing himself and then the Fener fans started chanting 'Fener f**s opponents up'.
As a Fener fan I love Ataman but he really acted here. Just one of his tactics.
_NA und they gave him the cheese and they knew it and then the °° Ai siktttir and a gamisou °° started hahah
you pissed him off and he punished you in the court...
Fener fans are probably pissed cause he has more Euroleagues than their team
@Fenerbahce.Forever Nah, he's right. People envy what they can't reach. Just ask Olympiakos fans.
@Fenerbahce.Forever While Oly players didn't. 🤣
While Fener players don't... 🤣 How's Fred doing by the way?
@Fenerbahce.Forever Ataman is more successful than the whole Fener xd lol
@Fenerbahce.Foreveractually there are many things you should ask cause your knowledge is dogshit. No player of Pana was ever found doped. Mitoglou was playing in Milano when found doped. Just so know before you speak.
There is no rivalry between Ergin Ataman and Fenerbahçe. For there to be a rivalry, both sides must have balanced strengths. While Ergin Ataman has won the European Cup 5 times, Fenerbahçe has only 1 European Cup. As usual, Fenerbahçe fans have acted like hooligans due to their inferiority complex.
His name is not Ergin we call him Gergin it means nervous. You know Fenerbahçe that’s why he is nervous and don’t control yourself. All over the world funs shout lyrics. Gergin no way
lan olm adam sizi karisi yapmis 5 avrupa sampiyonlugu kazanmis. ancak siz kufur edersiniz. basariya saygi duymayan hep kaybeder.
Ataman is the King
Best man
I saw some fans singing, i dont understand what they say but definately i dont see any attack on Mr Ataman. As for his reaction , we have a saying in greek, maybe turkish fans will be able to understand it too : Καραγκιοζιλίκια!!
Euroleague should think twice next time they decide to support in many ways, even with friendly referees, a team, just because they threw some money here and there. After 12 long years, watching F4 with "binoculars" until now, and they behave like that... Great attitude!
και μετα εκλασες
Κλασική κομπλεξική γαβριέλα
Now the world has seen what Fener fans look like. Congrats Pao! Galatasaray fans are with you!!
Typical Ergin Ataman as in our words GERGIN ATAMAN NERVOUS ATAMAN in English
Ataman has more Euroleagues than your whole club. If anyone's nervous, it's you, Ulkerspor.
Which is why you pull stuff like that,, in the first place.
Ergin Ataman is absolutely RIGHT on this matter. The Fener fans are most unsympathetic around. They are also very unpopular in Türkiye and not without reason.
@@spreewind They are unpopular outside Turkey too. Trust me.
@@DimShamrockis that why ataman is below %50 percent wins vs Fenerbahçe in his career ? ;) he has a clear Fenerbahçe complex, what a drama queen
@@spreewind"unpopular" and have 30 millions fans? :))) let's get back to your homework boy
ataman and fenerbahce fans have been enemies for years. because Ataman is a huge Galatasaray fan. and he when gets off the bus, fenerbahce fans are swearing in Turkish. ataman will also give his answer on the field
Its a Euroleague Official Competition,Ataman(love or hate him)its right here, its not legal that fans can be so close on the hotel and near to the players,the security is bad here,Ataman talking about the security is correct, fans cant be so close,you dont know what they can do in those days. Fans are not supposed to be there its a rule for all teams for safety reasons.
"legal"? are you a lawyer or what. That idiot Ataman started cursing first. Fans were chanting "why don't you dope" (which his team did before hence this chant). Then Ataman cursed "Fuck off you all" and then he got what he deserved.
can someone translate what were those fener fans outside the hotel singing?
It is about a doping thing that happened 15 years ago when he was the coach of Anadolu Efes. Then Ataman says f**k off and they start chanting "Fenerbahçe f***s the man". The funny thing is that Fenerbahçe is a team that is caught buying matches and UEFA has them on their list as a match buying club. Still they accuse others lol
that's why we call him gergin ataman. he is well known for creating tension.
F. S. A.😎
senin annen gerilmiş sever bence.oc
Adamın suratına söversen gergin olur. Gelip 20 kişi sokakta anana söverse sende gülmezsin heralde. Rezillik bu yaptıkları fenerlilerin.
Şimdi konuş
Lakabida artık fenerisijer oldu mu şimdi
He is not happy with the chaos he created.
They talk in the street we talk on the court ☘️
Btw can someone explain what exactly happened bc i Didn't understand anything from ataman english
Nobody did understand shit from this guy's English 🔴⚪
@@poalt4530 you will understand his English on the final - if you reach it that is!
Ήταν κάτι μπασταρδα και έβριζαν τον Προπονητή του Παναθηναϊκου .Τίποτα το περίεργο, μεθαύριο θα φάνε πουτσα απο τον Λεσορ και θα ησυχάζουν.
@@poalt4530 Ενώ ο δικός σου ο Mr Bean μιλάει άπταιστα αγγλικά έτσι;
Ergin ATAMAN harikasın
ataman is just showing himself off. he is nothing comparing to fener. he will get the lesson he deserves on the court
He has more Euroleague titles than Fener has as a whole. He will probably give you the same lesson he's been giving you all these years. The only sad thing is that Calathes is part of this team, a great player and a great guy.
In recent years, Fenerbahçe and in general the Turkish teams in football and basketball have received many blow jobs from the Greek teams...
@Fenerbahce.Foreverlearn your history, he beat Fener in the F4 of 2019.. so first learn, then talk
Ποιο μάθημα από ποιον!!!! Έχει 6 ευρωπαϊκά ο παναθηναικοΣ και την Κυριακή θα έχει 7.
@Fenerbahce.Forever Back when you wore orange and green? Forever Ulker, you'll be.
Obradovic, Saras, Calathes, Papagiannis, Batiste.
Face it. You are a wannabe Panathinaikos. And a 2nd class Maccabi.
After the defeat of Fenerbahce fans(football olympiacos),they attack against Panathinaikos Ataman.
Look Fenerbahce fans,I want ask a question to you:
Spiderman= Spider + man
Batman= Bat + man
Superman= Super + man
Ottoman= ??? + Man (what is the otto?).
Ataman= ??? + Man (what is the Ata?).