I bought the xrite passport video and color finale a few years ago after watching your videos. I do a lot of green screen work for interviews and wanted something to help me get consistent color between a variety of cameras (from a Sony FS100 and a7rii to GoPros and iPhones). It’s a great starting point but not magic, still a good investment. Then last month I had some trouble with a subject’s hair and the green screen on a single camera shoot in my own studio. I was so glad I had taken the time to use the Passport because it made it easy for me to try out different combinations of LUTS and key matte settings in FCPX until I found one that worked great. Thanks for all the work you put into these videos. Watching them has been informative, entertaining, and extremely valuable.
Hi Curtis, I'm sure this is not my first time commenting on your video, but besides the wealth of information and your tone, what I really appreciate is the fact that your audio is superbly mixed. Often time I open up a filmmaking tutorial video and voice-over is clipping in multiple places or certain frequencies drive me nuts. Coming to your channel means I don't have to worry about any of those things. Thanks again for your work.
This is an excellent tutorial for anyone starting to long journey into understanding color and color correction. Very helpful...please do more of this!
Unfortunately, the current version of ColorFinale does not display the tools needed to implement this tutorial. the controls i see in the tutorials are just not there! All I get is "Control Panels - Open) which works fine in all functions, and "Mix." I don't get the options for "Use Chart" and the others. "Use Chart" is what I'm trying to do.
Hi video vermont, after I shot this, Color Finale was split into two versions: ColorFinale and ColorFinale Pro. The pro version has the color chart matching feature under the gear with color wheel icon. Sorry for the confusion on that.
I may actually invest in one of these later on this year. Working in my small studio/office, it isnt a issue as I got my WB fine tuned to taste over time. But I am starting to add more cameras (camera angles) over time and getting all the video to match is a pain. Sure I can fiddle with it till its close enough, but time is money and I rather not be screwing with it for half an hour or so. Thanks for this video. Thumbs Up.. Cheers, Joe
I have been following you from the start and this is just what we need now, we have the gear and are shooting, now we need to deal this level of detail, outstanding !! Great video Curtis! And I love the way you demo on the two programs. Can you go into this more detail?
Hi Curtis Thanks for this! I want to know how to use this color chart to correct but with premiere pro because I am an adobe user. Any help on that please?
I bought the x-rite checker and exposure cube a year ago. Used it once and couldn't understand what was wrong. Now I know I had glare on my blacks. I was thinking of selling it on but I'll give it another go. Even though I'm pretty good at balancing by eye and scopes in Davinci. As you said, some cool little tricks here to learn more about color science and what each camera color profile is doing.
This is a great technique for matching footage from different cameras. Its not going to do all the color work, obviously, but it will certainly expedite some of the post production process. I hope Adobe will implement this in Premiere Pro.
+Dave Patterson Just put in my request! It's such a pain in the arse round tripping from premiere to davinci and back, so this would be a great addition to premiere.
I spent about 30 minutes with the built-in effects in Premiere and didn't find it to be nearly as quick and easy to color correct but that might be because I'm so used to Resolve. I'll keep at it.
Hey Curtis, would you mind doing an episode on XLR cables and how to use them in the field where a boom mic operator is moving around? I have trouble with handling noise even when it's rolled up the boom
Thank you for the tutorial Curtis, quick question, when you isolate the color and look at the vectorscope and see the vectors are off, is the goal to try to color correct to get the color vector dots in those boxes?
You're welcome! Yes, you could do that though I generally would just use that information as a reference. Every camera "interprets" color a little differently - have sort of a unique way of interpreting color. So you could correct to get perfectly correct color or just use that info as a way to understand what your camera and lighting is doing. Then you can make decisions on when it might be best to use that combination of camera and lighting. Does that make sense?
Awesome video Curtis! Looks like you are making me spend more money... I will definitely be going out to get one of those charts (and the new Aputure VS2 monitor when it's released). I was really fascinated by the last test you did focusing on the top row of colours on the chart. I would like to see you do a video on correcting your GH4 footage using that method and then possibly creating a colour setting for your GH4 to compensate for it's lack of saturation and off colours. Is there anything for Premiere Pro that does this yet?? I hope so. Keep up the fantastic work Curtis!!
+Colin Leask Thanks Colin, don't spend unless you have a specific issue to solve. ;-) We'll definitely come back to color correction in a future piece.
Hi Curtis, good video! would this tool/product be able to use as the same with still photos? Or should I get specific xrite product for separate applications between videos and stills? thanks for your great informative tutorials.
Hi, they have a separate color checker for photography. I haven't used it for still photos but I believe XRite has a Lightroom plugin for the color checker photo which may be worth a look.
I've been using the Colour Checker for a short period mainly as a visual reference for using Film Convert, but didn't know there was a colour finale app so will give that a try! I'm very interested in how different cameras capture colour and light in different ways, I think this is pivotal for if your choosing colours for production design for example.
Hi Curtis. Thank you for this! I never quite understood, why w/b is such a hazzle in video, and a push of a button in fx Lightoom, so this makes it much more easy. However, I already got the X-Rite Color Checker for photo - can I also use that in FCPX, or do I need the new Video one? Thanks again!
Hi Curtis thank you for the informative video. I just bought the colorchecker passport video and I was wondering how you would use this during the production process. Would you need to film this for each new shot you do? Or whenever there is a new lighting set-up? Not really clear about the workflow process of how and when to use the passport during production.
Hi! i usually just use this for testing cameras or lights and not so much during production. However, if you did want to use it during production, you would include it in the head or tail for each new camera angle or lighting setup. That should make it easier to match the clips in post. Best wishes!
super helpful and much appreciated! would you mind please doing a bit of a deeper exploration as you did in resolve, but instead in fcpx? that would be awesome!
I've been researching information on video camera color checkers and this is a very information production. I'm often working with different camera and color matching is taking too much time away from actually editing. Using this method will save a lot of time in post. I'd be interested in any further tips and tutorials you can show.
Hello Curtis Your videos have been a great deal of inspiration for me as a beginner into the video world. I own a Panasonic G7 and have ordered a X-rite ColorChecker Passport Video after watching this. The one area I always struggle with is getting exposure right. If you would do a hands-on video using your GH4 and the colochecker (most of it would apply for the G7, I presume) on how to setup correct exposure in controlled as well as uncontrolled lighting situations would be a great help. I am planning a visit to my hometown in India in a months time and would like to shoot tons of video. If time permits you to post a video it would be a great help. I apologize if I am asking too much.
Hi Dilson, thanks for the feedback. I have an older piece on manually setting exposure which you might find helpful but I'll also add to the list a new episode on setting exposure: ruclips.net/video/z1rDYKtnqkU/видео.html
Curtis Judd thank you Curtis. I am currently using a prosumer editor Pinnacle 18 and eventually I will switch to Premiere Pro...love to learn what all those little icons do!
+Nick Laws Thanks! I'll have to look around to see if there is any sort of auto-color plugin for Premiere. That would be pretty handy to avoid a round-trip to Resolve.
+doubledark2 Hi! I'm not sure about Lightroom - does it have a similar colour chart reader function? If so, I assume it is using the original color checker vs. the video version. I'll have to do some research. Good question!
Hi, thanks for all your videos! You are a great copilot in post production techniques! Just a question: I've bought just ten minutes ago Color Finale, but I can't see the panel to match the x rite panel! Do you know where to find it?
+Luca Pischedda Yes, you need the beta version. Sorry for the confusion on that, I forget to mention that the feature is in the beta version. If you email Denver Riddle (color grading central), he'll send you the link for that.
+Curtis Judd Hi, thanks so much, you are really fast! Now it works! But I should buy again the color checker :( By now it's enough that I can use the old one in davinci, export the LUT and use it in FCPX.
Awesome info to have! I'm curious about your lighting setup for this video - were you working with led/cfl lights, or tungsten/hmi/etc? Just thinking about the anomalies in your gh4's colour rendition, and hoping that it's a lighting cri issue and not a camera issue (myself being another gh4 user)
+Kate Cutting Hi Kate, in this case I was using Aputure Lightstorm LEDs. They are rated at a CRI of 96 (if memory serves). That could certainly be part of the issue. But most GH4 owners are finding that the red channel tends slightly toward yellow. I don't think it is necessarily an issue, but interesting to know so that when shooting, you can take that into account or in post, perhaps plan to correct (if you need the reds to be true red).
Fantastic video!! As usual :) I'm wondering if I used auto white balance on camera most of the time and then used this with color finale in post do you think I will still be able to get a very good outcome? Wondering if I could avoid setting custom white balance while I'm out shooting and just use this with color finale to save time while running around with the camera:) thanks!! Love your videos!!
+JT Fore that would probably work in most cases. If you're shooting on a camera that records 8 bit 4:2:0 color, you don't get a lot of room to fix things if it's way off but auto WB is usually just a little off. Thanks and if you adopt that workflow, please let us know how it goes!
It would be interesting to learn more about that row of colors and how to balance according to the vectorscope.. Curious how it will also compare Gh4 vs A7sii vs Canon Dslr color with the colorochart
+Lyubo Yanev Thanks, I'll see if we can get that out in the next little bit. I don't have the A7SII or any Canons on hand but if I do, I'll try to put out a comparison.
+Curtis Judd // Hello Curtis. Im also interested in that row of 6 primary (?) colors and how they fit into the vectorscope of Davinci Resolve 11. Since CMY seem to look "pure" atleast Red seems to be kind of orange and Blue seems to be kind of Red, true ?
Thanks for that. I have the colour passport photo version. And to be honest haven't used it as much as I should have. Can you share any tips on using that passport for video. (Mostly I use premiere pro cc)
+biscuitsalive Yes, as a start here's one using Resolve's color match with the original Color Checker Passport: ruclips.net/video/onom8tpiof8/видео.html And here's another one where we work on matching cameras (the and resolve's color match are not perfect here, but give you a bit of a head start): ruclips.net/video/Zr7FQKzxl68/видео.html
+Curtis Judd Nice one! appreciate your time.. by the way, I'm just finishing up a review of the Syrp genie mini, should be on my channel tomorrow in case your interested. :)
Really looking forward to your follow up episode showing how we can shift the colours on the vectorscope to more correctly align. (Can you show both FCPX and Resolve?) As I'm using a GH4 also. These videos from you are super informative. Thanks.
+Richard Wait Hey Richard. I think you can shift the colours to align correctly on the vectorscope by adding a new node in resolve and going to Hue vs Hue curve and picking the hue that is not aligned properly and spinning it until it does. Then go to the Hue vs Sat curve and increase the saturation for each hue that you desire. I haven't tried it but it should work in principle. Nice work +Curtis Judd.
Hey Curtis! I'm curious if you're using the checker for your own videos these days or if you already became so good with whitebalance that such a tool is no longer necessary?
Hey Dave, I usually use a gray card on regular shoots. I still use the color charts when testing new cameras or lights because then I can get a sense for what the new gear does in terms of color response.
Hi David, the same principle will work in any app with RGB curves, though I haven't used either Premiere or AE in so long, I'm not sure whether they have RGB curves. I *think* they do, but not sure.
One last question Curtis and this also pertains to your 'automate' color corrector video back in 2014, can you use the passport and video passport in After Effects? or does it HAVE to be used in Resolve?
+Sully Cortez Hi again Sully, you can use it manually in any color, video editing, or compositing app, including After Effects. I used resolve in this case because that's the app I usually use for color correction.
Had a two camera interview gig recently, this color checker could've helped matching the colors from two different cameras. Didn't realize video would need a specific one though.
Hi Curtis, Is this a good tool if you are going to apply a LUT in post as well? the correct workflow would be something like?: - edit all your video, (is ok with different cameras lenses or locations) - get the base colour correct using Color Checker and Color Finale - Apply any preset LUTs over the top Is This Correct? or is this tool not so useful if you are applying preset LUTs? Love Your Videos, Thankyou for your content!
Hi Dario, I think the main advantage that I see is that the color chips are made to represent the primary and secondary colors on a vectorscope (which is used much more in video than in photography). So I would not say it is better, just more suited to the types of tools which are more commonly used in video production and post production.
Hi Curtis, I'm a big fan! I have a question about using the xrtie passport video for costumed WB! I have Canon 70d and when I take the picture of the grey card for the WB with the canon lens kit 18-135mm, I got it right, but when I take my picture of the gray card with sigma 18-35mm/ f1.8, the result turns to be greenish! any thoughts why?
I'm in the market to buy this for interviews, etc. I'm doing with a Canon C100 MKII (matching with a Canon G30 as B Camera) and wondering if this could be used to do custom white balance on set, too? Thanks!
I’m still playing with ProRes RAW for the Nikon/Atomos Z system... looking to add Final Color since there is little support for this new codec from either Apple or Atomos and no LUTZ... yet I’m still wondering where to start to gel lights for a specific design. To warm up my image before a fireplace, I used some warmer gels over the LEDs. Looks pretty good in 1080p but waaay to oranges in Nikon’ Nlog and ProRes RAW! I’m thinking that gels at are overkill when you shoot log??? As long as you got accurate WB and exposure, you can warm up or cool down those colors in Post. (Even though the Lighting Guys tell me to get the lighting you want - on set - and shoot what you got accurately.
Hi George, I haven't worked with N-Log or ProRes Raw from my Z6 so I'm really not sure what it does in terms of color science. I think there were some other channels posting in-depth info on Nikon Z6 and ProRes Raw that might be of more help than I can on that particular topic. I wish you all the best!
Yeah, you can use Xrite if you bring in ProRes RAW “as video” to get a ballpark look... but that defeats the purpose shooting log. I have been able to use the ACS to profile Nikon/Atomos as Sony3 to get closer...but way off the Xrite. Trying Nlog tonight (which should give the best trade off of log and Passport)
+Bryce Dearden Absolutely and most likely, yes. While the CRI on these LED panels is 96 and they look good, there is a very good possibility the color "miss" is attributable to both. Thanks for that!
Thank you so much! I think this will solve my problems! I will be getting one these this week, maybe? Need to check with the budget officer (the wife), LoL . Question? Does this work with Adobe Premiere Pro CC?
+riel777 Thanks! You can certainly do manual color correction with the color checker in Premiere. Unfortunately, Premiere doesn't have the auto correction feature. However, you can use the free version of DaVinci Resolve. Best wishes!
Hey Curtis, HELP! After seeing your video I ran out and brought one from Amazon. It's been a hit and miss for me all the time when I use this in post. For some reason I always seems to have a glare in mine from lighting and when I try to color match in post using Color finale I get some weird colors. And yes, I click from Yellow to green etc. I follow the instructions. Any tips on how to use this little tool consistently? It seems to be the glare on the black dot thats hurting me and can't get good color consistently.
Hi, one thing I do which seems to work is when I hold the color checker in frame, I slowly turn it toward and away from the light. Then in post, I almost always have a glare-free frame I can work with. I hope that helps!
Awesome Curtis. I have one of the original Color Checkers and was wondering if I could incorporate t into my video work, great tutorial and very timely.
+David Robillard Yes, definitely. I bought the Color Checker Passport about 18 months ago. DaVinci Resolve's Color Match panel will automatically correct shots with the Color Checker.
Curtis, Any idea how I can do this in Premiere Pro I'm not a Davinci Resolve user. I tried using the color checker and the 3 Way Color Corrector and wasn't happy with the results because it seems to me unless the software knows what the colors truly should be on the Color Checker the results will be mixed at best since your photographing the Color Checker with a color cast. Like to hear your thoughts on how I can use the Passport. Thanks for the reply, anxious to see some more videos on this topic. Dave
+David Robillard I'll have to look at that. I haven't spent much time color correcting or grading in Premiere just because I personally prefer to do that in Resolve (that's just a personal preference, not a recommendation or endorsement).
Great, look forward to see what you come up with because when I used the Color Checker Passport it just didn't work because the Passport was shot with the ambient light's color cast.
+David Robillard Spent a few minutes with the Lumetri effect and also looked at curves. Unfortunately not looking as functional as Resolve, but I'm not a Premiere/Lumetri expert. Will try again in more depth at some point.
Thank you Curtis :) I really need a help, have a video, but it's so hard to make color correct... I wish to have somebody like that can help me with my video... I really don't know how to correct. And I have not Color Checker as you show in video. Can I send you my video, and then you can tell me what to change in color. If you have time...
I can see how that would be a huge help, the only thing I can't understand is the price. Is it really worth that much? I'm not so much into color correction and grading (though I should be), but all I see is a piece of plastic with some colors painted on it. Is there more to it than that?
It is only useful if it helps save you time and get better results. For me, I have clients that need reliable color and no distracting cuts so it is useful and worth the investment. But for those that don't have the budget, maybe not worth it.
When you use color finale to correct everything, can you then copy those corrections to other clips? For example, if you are shooting a scene in one environment I would use the color chart before the first shot as reference and then would want to apply those corrections to all other shots in that same environment so I don't have to throw a color card up before every take and shot. I don't even use Final Cut X. I'm just curious.
+Bart Johnson Productions Yes, you just copy the clip with the plugins you want to copy, select the clips you want to copy to and then paste attributes. You can then select which of the effects you want to paste. Pretty slick.
+Bart Johnson Productions +Curtis Judd I personally love this in premiere and resolve. I have the regular photo color checker... would love to get the video passport... notice any differences in color shifting/accuracy Curtis between the photo and video versions?
+Sully Cortez Hey Sully, I haven't noticed any differences between the new video chart and the older version in terms of using Resolve's color match and Color Finale to automatically color & exposure correct, but I still need to do some more testing. Where the video version seems to have an advantage is when using it during production. The big gray patch makes getting exposure super easy when you have a waveform scope or false color-just line it up to 40 IRE and make sure you're good with where the highlights and shadows fall. My sense is that they're both great in terms of the accuracy of the color patches but the video version is laid out with video in mind (i.e., much easier to identify the white/gray/black patches on a waveform scope, rather than use the traditional set of color patches, focus on the primary and secondary colors on the vectorscope and adds more greyscale patches).
+Curtis Judd Oh wonderful that's a huge help. I know I've sometimes struggled with the photo version as you're absolutely right when as the name implies it's mainly for photography, so when rolling with two or more cameras, I'm sure the video version would be much more applicable and useful. One last question, what is the expected lifespan of the color checker video is it still the recommended '2 years then replace' deal? Thanks for the info!
Hi, Great tutorial. I am fcpx user But i have question is colour checker passport not show in my inspector widow ,There is only show in penal control like these names use chart, show chart, chart type and match also. if i try more it see error .please sir give me guidance. I have learned much from your tutorial.I am technical poor, But i can do any type of colour grading because its my passion and for your kindly information i am self deducted regarding resolve and fcpx ,Because of your type mentor living in this world.
+GIFF India It sounds like there may be an issue with your Color Finale plugin? You will want to contact Denver Riddle over at color grading central to help resolve that. Best wishes!
+James Griffith hi James, if shooting with a log profile, my guess is that you'll want to apply the LUT first but you'll probably want to confirm that with a real colorist.
Curtis Judd a tutorial on doing this without color finale would be really helpful. Especially with the 10.4 update to fcpx adding color wheels and curves.
Ok. I'll need to learn how to do that in a quicker way. Right now it takes me quite a while to manually get all of the color chips to match. At some level, that's the benefit of spending $100 - much less time fiddling in post. Perhaps a demo will underscore how much longer it takes to do it manually.
Thanks for sharing knowledge! I have not been able to understand why is the need for two targets 1. colour checker passport video and 2. colour checker passport photo. We are using the same camera sensor for both in case of DSLRs. How the behaviour of two targets different?
I don't know all the reasons but one factor is the tools for post-processing photos and video differ in their approach. E.g., Photoshop and DaVinci Resolve have different toolsets for processing color and luminance. Good question! Perhaps others here know more about that.
Thanks for your reply Curtis. DaVinci Resolve can process both photo and video X-rite color checker passports whereas colour finale only allows color checker passports videos. It would be the marketing strategy. I had to buy both to work with stills and video...
Thanks you two. I have color checker for photos, I'm resistant to buying one for video, which is what I should have gotten. Hopefully it's good enough to use in Davinci Resolve, which I have to learn, since just using Final CutX tools is not advanced enough. Really wish I had remembered x-rite on a shoot where the ambient light kept changing in the room, and I kept adding lights!
you show we can also do a color correction with a gray card ? does this multi-color card gives better results than with a gray card for color correction ? if not why not just use a cheaper gray card ?
+amanieux A gray card is great for white balance corrections but not as good at matching cameras where two cameras respond to different colors in different ways. That's where a color chart and color match (whether in Resolve or Color Finale) can do more sophisticated corrections where individual colors are tuned independent of other colors. I don't mean to suggest you always need this, but if you do, this color chart works quite nicely for such jobs.
I recently bought the datacolor SpyderCheckr® 24. I haven't yet had time to use it, but seeing this video I'm beginning to wonder if it isn't just another too expensive toy that you don't really need. You obviously know a lot more than I do, and yet you seem to be fiddling around tweeking this and that in your software and kind of experimenting to see what gives the result you want. It seems like a lot of trouble one way or the other.
+Lau Bjerno It depends on how picky you are, how picky your clients are, and whether you need consistency. If you need consistency, this is one way to get closer more quickly. If you're not getting paid and just posting to RUclips, definitely not necessary.
Hallo Curtis, I have one question more. I bought the Color Finale for FCPX but I don´t habe Color Checker Passport Video in the Packet. Could you help me ?
Hi Victor, I'm not sure I understand. Did you purchase the color checker passport video along with color finale? If so, you'll want to get in touch with Denver. You can do that at www.colorgradingcentral.com/support/ If I've misunderstood your question, apologies!
Hi, you'd need some sort of reasonably accurate reference and that's where an ordinary large sheet of paper may not work, unfortunately. At least for anything other than white balancing the camera, in that case white paper may work.
Hi Curtis. Is this useful for people that don't use different cameras? I'm shooting a short film and will be revisiting scenes on different days where lighting may change slightly. Will I need this?
Apparantly there is one versin for Video and one for Photo. Pardon the ignorance, but they look the same on the pics, is there such a difference between both, that I would us the video one for photo work. The price is steep and cannot afford both. Your advice would be greatly appreciated... thanks
They use different color chips so they are actually different. The question of which one to buy comes down to how you plan to use it. If you plan to use it with DaVinci Resolve's color match feature, then you'll want the photo version. If you're going to use it with Color Finale (like I did here), you'll want the video version. I hope that helps!
Curtis Judd. One of the best channel. I learn interesting stuff from you. Thank you for your work.
+Madalin Ungureanu Thanks Madalin!
Great video Curtis! I have been thinking of picking up an X-Rite Color Checker and this pretty much pushed me over the edge to order one.
Thanks for the feedback Todd!
That use of the qualifier tool is VERY helpful. Really obvious in retrospect, as all clever things tend to be!!!
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Thank you Curtis! I decided to buy it after watching your convincing demo!!
I hope it works well for you!
Thanks man! This was one of the best color grading intro I’ve ever seen. Thanks for sharing.
Thanks Michael!
I bought the xrite passport video and color finale a few years ago after watching your videos. I do a lot of green screen work for interviews and wanted something to help me get consistent color between a variety of cameras (from a Sony FS100 and a7rii to GoPros and iPhones). It’s a great starting point but not magic, still a good investment. Then last month I had some trouble with a subject’s hair and the green screen on a single camera shoot in my own studio. I was so glad I had taken the time to use the Passport because it made it easy for me to try out different combinations of LUTS and key matte settings in FCPX until I found one that worked great. Thanks for all the work you put into these videos. Watching them has been informative, entertaining, and extremely valuable.
Thanks Adrian and I agree, not perfect, but useful.
Really helpful in my understanding of this process. Thank you for what you do!
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Just had a color checker delivered today for a shoot tomorrow, so thanks so much for this great tutorial!
Good luck!
Yet another great video, with immense value of the content.
Thanks.
Absolutely great tutorial! Thanks Curtis.
+Yossy Mendelovich Thanks Yossy!
Very useful, as a filmmaker and a cg artist im super appreciated! Again, THANKS!
Thanks Jacys!
Hi Curtis, I'm sure this is not my first time commenting on your video, but besides the wealth of information and your tone, what I really appreciate is the fact that your audio is superbly mixed. Often time I open up a filmmaking tutorial video and voice-over is clipping in multiple places or certain frequencies drive me nuts. Coming to your channel means I don't have to worry about any of those things. Thanks again for your work.
+Rintaro Wada thank you Rintaro, much appreciated.
This was very informative, as always. Would love to see more videos on color grading and video post processing. Thanks Curtis!
+Shlomi Cohen Thanks Shlomi, will do!
This is an excellent tutorial for anyone starting to long journey into understanding color and color correction. Very helpful...please do more of this!
Thanks and will do!
Unfortunately, the current version of ColorFinale does not display the tools needed to implement this tutorial. the controls i see in the tutorials are just not there! All I get is "Control Panels - Open) which works fine in all functions, and "Mix." I don't get the options for "Use Chart" and the others. "Use Chart" is what I'm trying to do.
Hi video vermont, after I shot this, Color Finale was split into two versions: ColorFinale and ColorFinale Pro. The pro version has the color chart matching feature under the gear with color wheel icon. Sorry for the confusion on that.
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yes, deeper dive will be welcome!
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Nice clear tutorial. Very helpful, thanks.
+tdcat.com thanks!
Very informative! Thanks Curtis!
+mattcarlson12 Thanks Matt!
I may actually invest in one of these later on this year. Working in my small studio/office, it isnt a issue as I got my WB fine tuned to taste over time. But I am starting to add more cameras (camera angles) over time and getting all the video to match is a pain. Sure I can fiddle with it till its close enough, but time is money and I rather not be screwing with it for half an hour or so. Thanks for this video. Thumbs Up.. Cheers, Joe
+Joe's Photo & Video Channel Thanks Joe, great point!
Such an amazing tool
Thanks, that was an outstanding tutorial...
Thanks!
I have been following you from the start and this is just what we need now, we have the gear and are shooting, now we need to deal this level of detail, outstanding !! Great video Curtis! And I love the way you demo on the two programs. Can you go into this more detail?
+pyt2music Thanks, sure!
+clarity2106 Ah, I'll need to look into getting a lightworks license...
Great work again (business is usual here, actually...), thanks, Curtis.
Thanks!
Nice demo. Thank you.
Thanks Alex!
Excellent! Thank you!
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perfect episode
Thanks Davoud
Wow. Thanks! Great info!
Thanks!
This is a great video. Thankyou.
Thanks Steve
Curtis Judd your very welcome. I’m doing some camera, post, learning at the moment.
Very helpful, thank you!
You're welcome and thanks for the feedback!
awesome !!! thanks !
Hi Curtis Thanks for this! I want to know how to use this color chart to correct but with premiere pro because I am an adobe user. Any help on that please?
I create a LUT from the color chart in Resolve, then apply the LUT in premiere pro with the Lumetri Effect.
Dear sir i have watched this tutorial and thanks for replied
Useful, thank you.
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Well Done !
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I bought the x-rite checker and exposure cube a year ago. Used it once and couldn't understand what was wrong. Now I know I had glare on my blacks. I was thinking of selling it on but I'll give it another go. Even though I'm pretty good at balancing by eye and scopes in Davinci. As you said, some cool little tricks here to learn more about color science and what each camera color profile is doing.
Thanks Paul. Hopefully that checker becomes a little more useful now.
love u curtis judd thanks for the help
+axsa info Thanks and you're welcome!
This is a great technique for matching footage from different cameras. Its not going to do all the color work, obviously, but it will certainly expedite some of the post production process. I hope Adobe will implement this in Premiere Pro.
I agree, would be great to see Adobe add the automated color correct feature.
+Curtis Judd I urge Adobe customers to make a feature request for this.
www.adobe.com/products/wishform.html
+Dave Patterson Just put in my request! It's such a pain in the arse round tripping from premiere to davinci and back, so this would be a great addition to premiere.
Great video! It’d be great to see how the passport helps to get the exposure right as well. Thanks!
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LOL, I saw this video and thought- "Why did Cary cut his hair?!" Clearly, we have never met before. Great tutorial!
Haha! but he did cut his hair :)
This is so great, thanks man! Do you know if theres any similar tool like ColorFinal for Premiere Pro?
Thanks! Not sure as I do most of my work in FCP.
Hey Curtis! Thanks for your video, you're the man. Any word on using the passport in Premiere CC? Thanks
I spent about 30 minutes with the built-in effects in Premiere and didn't find it to be nearly as quick and easy to color correct but that might be because I'm so used to Resolve. I'll keep at it.
Hey Curtis, would you mind doing an episode on XLR cables and how to use them in the field where a boom mic operator is moving around? I have trouble with handling noise even when it's rolled up the boom
+Edvard Christie Sure, thanks Edvard.
Thank you so much
+Gunho Jang You're welcome!
Thank you for the tutorial Curtis, quick question, when you isolate the color and look at the vectorscope and see the vectors are off, is the goal to try to color correct to get the color vector dots in those boxes?
You're welcome! Yes, you could do that though I generally would just use that information as a reference. Every camera "interprets" color a little differently - have sort of a unique way of interpreting color. So you could correct to get perfectly correct color or just use that info as a way to understand what your camera and lighting is doing. Then you can make decisions on when it might be best to use that combination of camera and lighting. Does that make sense?
Nice I wish premiere had something like that. Super quick and effective
Me too.
Awesome video Curtis! Looks like you are making me spend more money... I will definitely be going out to get one of those charts (and the new Aputure VS2 monitor when it's released).
I was really fascinated by the last test you did focusing on the top row of colours on the chart. I would like to see you do a video on correcting your GH4 footage using that method and then possibly creating a colour setting for your GH4 to compensate for it's lack of saturation and off colours.
Is there anything for Premiere Pro that does this yet?? I hope so.
Keep up the fantastic work Curtis!!
+Colin Leask Thanks Colin, don't spend unless you have a specific issue to solve. ;-) We'll definitely come back to color correction in a future piece.
Hi Curtis, good video! would this tool/product be able to use as the same with still photos? Or should I get specific xrite product for separate applications between videos and stills?
thanks for your great informative tutorials.
Hi, they have a separate color checker for photography. I haven't used it for still photos but I believe XRite has a Lightroom plugin for the color checker photo which may be worth a look.
I've been using the Colour Checker for a short period mainly as a visual reference for using Film Convert, but didn't know there was a colour finale app so will give that a try!
I'm very interested in how different cameras capture colour and light in different ways, I think this is pivotal for if your choosing colours for production design for example.
Great point regarding production design, thanks for that!
Wow thanks, That's ok :-)
Hi Curtis. Thank you for this! I never quite understood, why w/b is such a hazzle in video, and a push of a button in fx Lightoom, so this makes it much more easy. However, I already got the X-Rite Color Checker for photo - can I also use that in FCPX, or do I need the new Video one? Thanks again!
Hi Flemming, unfortunately Color Finale only works with the video colorchecker. Thanks!
Hi Curtis thank you for the informative video. I just bought the colorchecker passport video and I was wondering how you would use this during the production process. Would you need to film this for each new shot you do? Or whenever there is a new lighting set-up? Not really clear about the workflow process of how and when to use the passport during production.
Hi! i usually just use this for testing cameras or lights and not so much during production. However, if you did want to use it during production, you would include it in the head or tail for each new camera angle or lighting setup. That should make it easier to match the clips in post. Best wishes!
super helpful and much appreciated! would you mind please doing a bit of a deeper exploration as you did in resolve, but instead in fcpx? that would be awesome!
Thanks, will do!
I've been researching information on video camera color checkers and this is a very information production. I'm often working with different camera and color matching is taking too much time away from actually editing. Using this method will save a lot of time in post. I'd be interested in any further tips and tutorials you can show.
+SpaceAgeConsulting Thanks, will do!
Hello Curtis
Your videos have been a great deal of inspiration for me as a beginner into the video world. I own a Panasonic G7 and have ordered a X-rite ColorChecker Passport Video after watching this.
The one area I always struggle with is getting exposure right.
If you would do a hands-on video using your GH4 and the colochecker (most of it would apply for the G7, I presume) on how to setup correct exposure in controlled as well as uncontrolled lighting situations would be a great help.
I am planning a visit to my hometown in India in a months time and would like to shoot tons of video.
If time permits you to post a video it would be a great help. I apologize if I am asking too much.
Hi Dilson, thanks for the feedback. I have an older piece on manually setting exposure which you might find helpful but I'll also add to the list a new episode on setting exposure: ruclips.net/video/z1rDYKtnqkU/видео.html
Love this one too! Who would you recommend on more about color correcting and grading using the vector scope? Thank you Curtis!
+Charlie Sill I recommend Alex Jordan, he has some free and paid courses at filmsimplified.com/?affcode=u1425569190s63
Curtis Judd thank you Curtis. I am currently using a prosumer editor Pinnacle 18 and eventually I will switch to Premiere Pro...love to learn what all those little icons do!
I love that "Blue Steele" look you're giving! Anybody know of any plugins that will take advantage of this in Premiere Pro?
+Nick Laws Thanks! I'll have to look around to see if there is any sort of auto-color plugin for Premiere. That would be pretty handy to avoid a round-trip to Resolve.
really too helpful.Thanks...
very rarely find this kind of detailed informations on youtube...or may be; I don't know proper searching keywords :-p
Thanks!
Great video, I learned alot from this, I'm using premiere CC can you make another color correct video with premiere?
+Spike li Thanks Spike! I'll put that in the queue.
Curtis; great video, as always. Is there one colour chart that can be used for both video & stills(so the software works across Lightroom and FCPX)
+doubledark2 Hi! I'm not sure about Lightroom - does it have a similar colour chart reader function? If so, I assume it is using the original color checker vs. the video version. I'll have to do some research. Good question!
Hi, thanks for all your videos! You are a great copilot in post production techniques! Just a question: I've bought just ten minutes ago Color Finale, but I can't see the panel to match the x rite panel! Do you know where to find it?
+Luca Pischedda Yes, you need the beta version. Sorry for the confusion on that, I forget to mention that the feature is in the beta version. If you email Denver Riddle (color grading central), he'll send you the link for that.
+Curtis Judd Hi, thanks so much, you are really fast! Now it works! But I should buy again the color checker :( By now it's enough that I can use the old one in davinci, export the LUT and use it in FCPX.
Awesome info to have! I'm curious about your lighting setup for this video - were you working with led/cfl lights, or tungsten/hmi/etc? Just thinking about the anomalies in your gh4's colour rendition, and hoping that it's a lighting cri issue and not a camera issue (myself being another gh4 user)
+Kate Cutting Hi Kate, in this case I was using Aputure Lightstorm LEDs. They are rated at a CRI of 96 (if memory serves). That could certainly be part of the issue. But most GH4 owners are finding that the red channel tends slightly toward yellow. I don't think it is necessarily an issue, but interesting to know so that when shooting, you can take that into account or in post, perhaps plan to correct (if you need the reds to be true red).
+Curtis Judd Thanks! That's exactly why I was asking - time to get on some tests on my own camera :)
Fantastic video!! As usual :) I'm wondering if I used auto white balance on camera most of the time and then used this with color finale in post do you think I will still be able to get a very good outcome? Wondering if I could avoid setting custom white balance while I'm out shooting and just use this with color finale to save time while running around with the camera:) thanks!! Love your videos!!
+JT Fore that would probably work in most cases. If you're shooting on a camera that records 8 bit 4:2:0 color, you don't get a lot of room to fix things if it's way off but auto WB is usually just a little off. Thanks and if you adopt that workflow, please let us know how it goes!
Curtis Judd thank you sir!!
Also your amazon link for the color checker video takes you to a Rode VC1 extension cable.
+Bryce Dearden Thanks Bryce, got that corrected.
Verx usefull. Thaks!
+Marjan Apostolović Thanks Marjan.
It would be interesting to learn more about that row of colors and how to balance according to the vectorscope.. Curious how it will also compare Gh4 vs A7sii vs Canon Dslr color with the colorochart
+Lyubo Yanev Thanks, I'll see if we can get that out in the next little bit. I don't have the A7SII or any Canons on hand but if I do, I'll try to put out a comparison.
+Curtis Judd // Hello Curtis. Im also interested in that row of 6 primary (?) colors and how they fit into the vectorscope of Davinci Resolve 11. Since CMY seem to look "pure" atleast Red seems to be kind of orange and Blue seems to be kind of Red, true ?
+Thomas Reuter True! I'm planning to have a look at that again in the near future. Thanks!
Thanks for that. I have the colour passport photo version. And to be honest haven't used it as much as I should have. Can you share any tips on using that passport for video. (Mostly I use premiere pro cc)
+biscuitsalive Yes, as a start here's one using Resolve's color match with the original Color Checker Passport: ruclips.net/video/onom8tpiof8/видео.html And here's another one where we work on matching cameras (the and resolve's color match are not perfect here, but give you a bit of a head start): ruclips.net/video/Zr7FQKzxl68/видео.html
+Curtis Judd Nice one! appreciate your time.. by the way, I'm just finishing up a review of the Syrp genie mini, should be on my channel tomorrow in case your interested. :)
+biscuitsalive Nice review, thanks for that! Looks like a decent little unit.
+Curtis Judd praise indeed!
such an intense facial expression lol. Very informative thanks Curtis!
I'm very serious about color 😉
Really looking forward to your follow up episode showing how we can shift the colours on the vectorscope to more correctly align. (Can you show both FCPX and Resolve?) As I'm using a GH4 also. These videos from you are super informative. Thanks.
Thanks! Will do!
+Richard Wait Hey Richard. I think you can shift the colours to align correctly on the vectorscope by adding a new node in resolve and going to Hue vs Hue curve and picking the hue that is not aligned properly and spinning it until it does. Then go to the Hue vs Sat curve and increase the saturation for each hue that you desire. I haven't tried it but it should work in principle. Nice work +Curtis Judd.
+Frank Edoho Nice mini tutorial! Thanks for that!
Hey Curtis! I'm curious if you're using the checker for your own videos these days or if you already became so good with whitebalance that such a tool is no longer necessary?
Hey Dave, I usually use a gray card on regular shoots. I still use the color charts when testing new cameras or lights because then I can get a sense for what the new gear does in terms of color response.
Curtis,
When you were grey balancing with the 3 dots on curves, is there a way to do that in Premiere Pro or AE. Great tutorial thanks.
Hi David, the same principle will work in any app with RGB curves, though I haven't used either Premiere or AE in so long, I'm not sure whether they have RGB curves. I *think* they do, but not sure.
Thanks for the reply.
One last question Curtis and this also pertains to your 'automate' color corrector video back in 2014, can you use the passport and video passport in After Effects? or does it HAVE to be used in Resolve?
+Sully Cortez Hi again Sully, you can use it manually in any color, video editing, or compositing app, including After Effects. I used resolve in this case because that's the app I usually use for color correction.
Had a two camera interview gig recently, this color checker could've helped matching the colors from two different cameras. Didn't realize video would need a specific one though.
In DaVinci Resolve you can also use the older Color Checker just like demonstrated here: ruclips.net/video/onom8tpiof8/видео.html
Curtis Judd any simple way of using the video one just with FCPX?
With Color Finale as demonstrated here. FCPX on its own does not have this feature, unfortunately.
Hi Curtis, Is this a good tool if you are going to apply a LUT in post as well?
the correct workflow would be something like?:
- edit all your video, (is ok with different cameras lenses or locations)
- get the base colour correct using Color Checker and Color Finale
- Apply any preset LUTs over the top
Is This Correct? or is this tool not so useful if you are applying preset LUTs?
Love Your Videos, Thankyou for your content!
Hi Fala, yes, this just helps get things setup for using a LUT. You do all this first, then apply the "look" LUT.
@@curtisjudd Great thank you for the reply, I purchased the X-Rite yesterday because of this video. looking forwards to giving it a try!
Hi Curtis, thanks for the video. Is there any real advantage over the " regular " x-rite color checker passport ?
Hi Dario, I think the main advantage that I see is that the color chips are made to represent the primary and secondary colors on a vectorscope (which is used much more in video than in photography). So I would not say it is better, just more suited to the types of tools which are more commonly used in video production and post production.
ok. thank you very much.
Hi Curtis, I'm a big fan!
I have a question about using the xrtie passport video for costumed WB! I have Canon 70d and when I take the picture of the grey card for the WB with the canon lens kit 18-135mm, I got it right, but when I take my picture of the gray card with sigma 18-35mm/ f1.8, the result turns to be greenish! any thoughts why?
+Ali Ismail hmm, not sure. Did you fill most of the frame with the gray chip? If not, that can throw things off.
Thanks for this video. Will this product and procedure work with Premiere Pro CC 2017?
+prairieskycam unfortunately I don't think Adobe has added this feature yet. Others feel free to correct me if I am mistaken on that.
Fortunately PP works nicely with LUTs from Davinci via Lumetri. You can follow the procedure in this video, export the LUT and work with that.
I'm in the market to buy this for interviews, etc. I'm doing with a Canon C100 MKII (matching with a Canon G30 as B Camera) and wondering if this could be used to do custom white balance on set, too? Thanks!
Hi Deborah, yes, the color checker video also has a white balance card. Good luck!
I’m still playing with ProRes RAW for the Nikon/Atomos Z system... looking to add Final Color since there is little support for this new codec from either Apple or Atomos and no LUTZ... yet
I’m still wondering where to start to gel lights for a specific design. To warm up my image before a fireplace, I used some warmer gels over the LEDs. Looks pretty good in 1080p but waaay to oranges in Nikon’ Nlog and ProRes RAW! I’m thinking that gels at are overkill when you shoot log??? As long as you got accurate WB and exposure, you can warm up or cool down those colors in Post. (Even though the Lighting Guys tell me to get the lighting you want - on set - and shoot what you got accurately.
Hi George, I haven't worked with N-Log or ProRes Raw from my Z6 so I'm really not sure what it does in terms of color science. I think there were some other channels posting in-depth info on Nikon Z6 and ProRes Raw that might be of more help than I can on that particular topic. I wish you all the best!
Yeah, you can use Xrite if you bring in ProRes RAW “as video” to get a ballpark look... but that defeats the purpose shooting log. I have been able to use the ACS to profile Nikon/Atomos as Sony3 to get closer...but way off the Xrite. Trying Nlog tonight (which should give the best trade off of log and Passport)
Could the varied color responses in the vectorscopes be due to imperfect color output from the lighting used?
+Bryce Dearden Absolutely and most likely, yes. While the CRI on these LED panels is 96 and they look good, there is a very good possibility the color "miss" is attributable to both. Thanks for that!
Thank you so much! I think this will solve my problems! I will be getting one these this week, maybe? Need to check with the budget officer (the wife), LoL . Question? Does this work with Adobe Premiere Pro CC?
+riel777 Thanks! You can certainly do manual color correction with the color checker in Premiere. Unfortunately, Premiere doesn't have the auto correction feature. However, you can use the free version of DaVinci Resolve. Best wishes!
Thanks, I'll try DaVinci Resolve
I would definitely like a more detail/ indepth video on davinci or anything with color. Especially with gh4. Thanks
Will do, thanks!
Hey Curtis,
HELP!
After seeing your video I ran out and brought one from Amazon.
It's been a hit and miss for me all the time when I use this in post. For some reason I always seems to have a glare in mine from lighting and when I try to color match in post using Color finale I get some weird colors. And yes, I click from Yellow to green etc. I follow the instructions. Any tips on how to use this little tool consistently? It seems to be the glare on the black dot thats hurting me and can't get good color consistently.
Hi, one thing I do which seems to work is when I hold the color checker in frame, I slowly turn it toward and away from the light. Then in post, I almost always have a glare-free frame I can work with. I hope that helps!
Awesome Curtis. I have one of the original Color Checkers and was wondering if I could incorporate t into my video work, great tutorial and very timely.
+David Robillard Yes, definitely. I bought the Color Checker Passport about 18 months ago. DaVinci Resolve's Color Match panel will automatically correct shots with the Color Checker.
Curtis, Any idea how I can do this in Premiere Pro I'm not a Davinci Resolve user. I tried using the color checker and the 3 Way Color Corrector and wasn't happy with the results because it seems to me unless the software knows what the colors truly should be on the Color Checker the results will be mixed at best since your photographing the Color Checker with a color cast.
Like to hear your thoughts on how I can use the Passport.
Thanks for the reply, anxious to see some more videos on this topic.
Dave
+David Robillard I'll have to look at that. I haven't spent much time color correcting or grading in Premiere just because I personally prefer to do that in Resolve (that's just a personal preference, not a recommendation or endorsement).
Great, look forward to see what you come up with because when I used the Color Checker Passport it just didn't work because the Passport was shot with the ambient light's color cast.
+David Robillard Spent a few minutes with the Lumetri effect and also looked at curves. Unfortunately not looking as functional as Resolve, but I'm not a Premiere/Lumetri expert. Will try again in more depth at some point.
Thank you Curtis :) I really need a help, have a video, but it's so hard to make color correct... I wish to have somebody like that can help me with my video... I really don't know how to correct. And I have not Color Checker as you show in video.
Can I send you my video, and then you can tell me what to change in color. If you have time...
+Ana Kazahara Hi Ana, do you have a sample of the video which needs color correction online where I could view it?
I can see how that would be a huge help, the only thing I can't understand is the price. Is it really worth that much? I'm not so much into color correction and grading (though I should be), but all I see is a piece of plastic with some colors painted on it. Is there more to it than that?
It is only useful if it helps save you time and get better results. For me, I have clients that need reliable color and no distracting cuts so it is useful and worth the investment. But for those that don't have the budget, maybe not worth it.
When you use color finale to correct everything, can you then copy those corrections to other clips? For example, if you are shooting a scene in one environment I would use the color chart before the first shot as reference and then would want to apply those corrections to all other shots in that same environment so I don't have to throw a color card up before every take and shot.
I don't even use Final Cut X. I'm just curious.
+Bart Johnson Productions Yes, you just copy the clip with the plugins you want to copy, select the clips you want to copy to and then paste attributes. You can then select which of the effects you want to paste. Pretty slick.
+Curtis Judd Very cool. Just like Lumetri Color effects applied in Premiere.
+Bart Johnson Productions +Curtis Judd I personally love this in premiere and resolve. I have the regular photo color checker... would love to get the video passport... notice any differences in color shifting/accuracy Curtis between the photo and video versions?
+Sully Cortez Hey Sully, I haven't noticed any differences between the new video chart and the older version in terms of using Resolve's color match and Color Finale to automatically color & exposure correct, but I still need to do some more testing. Where the video version seems to have an advantage is when using it during production. The big gray patch makes getting exposure super easy when you have a waveform scope or false color-just line it up to 40 IRE and make sure you're good with where the highlights and shadows fall. My sense is that they're both great in terms of the accuracy of the color patches but the video version is laid out with video in mind (i.e., much easier to identify the white/gray/black patches on a waveform scope, rather than use the traditional set of color patches, focus on the primary and secondary colors on the vectorscope and adds more greyscale patches).
+Curtis Judd Oh wonderful that's a huge help. I know I've sometimes struggled with the photo version as you're absolutely right when as the name implies it's mainly for photography, so when rolling with two or more cameras, I'm sure the video version would be much more applicable and useful. One last question, what is the expected lifespan of the color checker video is it still the recommended '2 years then replace' deal? Thanks for the info!
Curtis, do you just leave the source gamma in Auto since Resolve has no V-log option?
+UnorthodoxWriter Usually, yes, but don't be afraid to experiment. I haven't done a lot of testing with V-Log yet.
Hi, Great tutorial. I am fcpx user But i have question is colour checker passport not show in my inspector widow ,There is only show in penal control like these names use chart, show chart, chart type and match also. if i try more it see error .please sir give me guidance. I have learned much from your tutorial.I am technical poor, But i can do any type of colour grading because its my passion and for your kindly information i am self deducted regarding resolve and fcpx ,Because of your type mentor living in this world.
+GIFF India It sounds like there may be an issue with your Color Finale plugin? You will want to contact Denver Riddle over at color grading central to help resolve that. Best wishes!
Curtis - could you do a video on how to use the Color checker Passport Video in Premiere Pro, Aug. 2016 update version?
Hi Tricia, yes, I've got that on my list of future episodes. The process is not quite as automated as with Final Cut but not difficult.
As far as what was done in Final Cut, is there a Premiere Pro CC Equivalent?
Unfortunately, not that I am aware of...
So, is it necessary to get proper white balance before filming if you can always use the color checker passport in post?
Best if you can, yes, unless filming in raw.
How would using the color checker effect camera specific LUTs, such as the Impulz LUTs from Vision Color?
+James Griffith hi James, if shooting with a log profile, my guess is that you'll want to apply the LUT first but you'll probably want to confirm that with a real colorist.
I like this. Can you do more beginner videos on using this color checker?
Hi Alok, thanks for the suggestion. I’ll add it to my list.
Curtis Judd a tutorial on doing this without color finale would be really helpful. Especially with the 10.4 update to fcpx adding color wheels and curves.
It would be really nice to save 100bucks
Ok. I'll need to learn how to do that in a quicker way. Right now it takes me quite a while to manually get all of the color chips to match. At some level, that's the benefit of spending $100 - much less time fiddling in post. Perhaps a demo will underscore how much longer it takes to do it manually.
Thanks for sharing knowledge! I have not been able to understand why is the need for two targets 1. colour checker passport video and 2. colour checker passport photo. We are using the same camera sensor for both in case of DSLRs. How the behaviour of two targets different?
I don't know all the reasons but one factor is the tools for post-processing photos and video differ in their approach. E.g., Photoshop and DaVinci Resolve have different toolsets for processing color and luminance. Good question! Perhaps others here know more about that.
Thanks for your reply Curtis. DaVinci Resolve can process both photo and video X-rite color checker passports whereas colour finale only allows color checker passports videos. It would be the marketing strategy. I had to buy both to work with stills and video...
I stand corrected, then. Thanks for the info! Next time I talk with X-Rite, I'll ask.
Thanks you two. I have color checker for photos, I'm resistant to buying one for video, which is what I should have gotten. Hopefully it's good enough to use in Davinci Resolve, which I have to learn, since just using Final CutX tools is not advanced enough. Really wish I had remembered x-rite on a shoot where the ambient light kept changing in the room, and I kept adding lights!
you show we can also do a color correction with a gray card ? does this multi-color card gives better results than with a gray card for color correction ? if not why not just use a cheaper gray card ?
+amanieux A gray card is great for white balance corrections but not as good at matching cameras where two cameras respond to different colors in different ways. That's where a color chart and color match (whether in Resolve or Color Finale) can do more sophisticated corrections where individual colors are tuned independent of other colors. I don't mean to suggest you always need this, but if you do, this color chart works quite nicely for such jobs.
I recently bought the datacolor SpyderCheckr® 24. I haven't yet had time to use it, but seeing this video I'm beginning to wonder if it isn't just another too expensive toy that you don't really need. You obviously know a lot more than I do, and yet you seem to be fiddling around tweeking this and that in your software and kind of experimenting to see what gives the result you want. It seems like a lot of trouble one way or the other.
+Lau Bjerno It depends on how picky you are, how picky your clients are, and whether you need consistency. If you need consistency, this is one way to get closer more quickly. If you're not getting paid and just posting to RUclips, definitely not necessary.
Hallo Curtis, I have one question more. I bought the Color Finale for FCPX but I don´t habe Color Checker Passport Video in the Packet. Could you help me ?
Hi Victor, I'm not sure I understand. Did you purchase the color checker passport video along with color finale? If so, you'll want to get in touch with Denver. You can do that at www.colorgradingcentral.com/support/ If I've misunderstood your question, apologies!
So, when you white balance on set, do you use the large square on the other side of the card, above the focus card?
Yes, exactly.
Curtis Judd Audio Thank you for your quick response and excellent video!
Let's say for beginner who does not have this passport, but uses a large sheet of paper for color correction, how can they use this with a LUT?
Hi, you'd need some sort of reasonably accurate reference and that's where an ordinary large sheet of paper may not work, unfortunately. At least for anything other than white balancing the camera, in that case white paper may work.
Hi Curtis. Is this useful for people that don't use different cameras? I'm shooting a short film and will be revisiting scenes on different days where lighting may change slightly. Will I need this?
Hi Douglas, this can be helpful even if using one or several of the same camera, but not absolutely necessary.
Thanks Curtis.
Apparantly there is one versin for Video and one for Photo. Pardon the ignorance, but they look the same on the pics, is there such a difference between both, that I would us the video one for photo work. The price is steep and cannot afford both.
Your advice would be greatly appreciated... thanks
They use different color chips so they are actually different. The question of which one to buy comes down to how you plan to use it. If you plan to use it with DaVinci Resolve's color match feature, then you'll want the photo version. If you're going to use it with Color Finale (like I did here), you'll want the video version. I hope that helps!
They have a limited time life as indicated in the notice, is that right ? (a year i think for perfect colour warranty)
Yes, 12-24 months they say on the packaging.