Star Wars REVEALS Why Thrawn was TERRIFIED of Luke "My Greatest Enemy" - Star Wars Explained
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I mean it's just got to be terrifying knowing that for 20 years the Empire had relatively no competition only to suddenly have one man takedown two death stars and Vader and Palpatine all in the matter of 2 to 3 years
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It was definitely like a decade but yea
@@iTzNiKoYoreturn of the Jedi takes place in 4ABY which is "After the Battle of Yavin" meaning it's 4 years after the end of A New Hope and Luke's destruction of the Death Star.
That's why moff gideon tried to take himself out in mandalorian season 2 finale!
When he found who Ashoka's master was he feared her. We know he's wary of Ezra. But Luke is a whole different story. Not only is he the son of The Chosen One, he likely thinks Ashoka would also have taught Luke, which will make him fear Luke, then there is what people say about 2 Death Stars and the Emperor, and if Luke killed Vader, then he killed his father without any problem, which likely means he is unstable or truly Vader's son, and if Luke and Ezra, two powerful jedi, team up, he's going to be in SERIOUS trouble! And he knows it!!!
Just wait till he finds out Yoda taught him
I think the Thrawn in Heir to the Empire is very different than the one we see in the Ahsoka series (canon Thrawn). He'll have a healthy respect for Luke but after fighting beside Anakin and later Vader, encountering the Bendu, and seeing Ezra's capability of taking over a star destroyer no lightsaber necessary and summoning a fleet of space whales to destroy Thrawn's entire fleet - Thrawn has a healthy respect for Force wielders but he's not scared of them, he works with them (the Night Mothers and Vader).
Naw Thrawn will do what he always does and research the hell out of all the battles he missed and say: yup, knew the Death Star was a bad idea. Thank you Ezra, I might've been on one of those things! And Luke killed both the Emperor and Vader... Luke killed the Emperor and his father (because Thrawn knew Vader's true identity). Hah, yeah sure. Because the New Republic would never twist the truth to make certain the name Skywalker never gets associated with the name Vader. That I think would be Thrawn's reaction, and then he would do what Thrawn does and recognize that while Skywalker and Bridger are both dangerous, the dangers lurking in the Unknown Region continue to be the greater threat and the New Republic's bureaucratic nightmare will spell destruction for them all unless something happens.
That should be what Thrawn's interpretation of events are.
I think he knows who Luke is. When he found out that Ahsoka was Anakin’s padawan, he paused and asked if she was indeed the only Jedi approaching. He may have figured they had met and possibly formed a connection.
Depends on who all knows about Luke and the extent of his involvement. Thrawn was likely brought information by Morgan Elsbeth but the extent of the data she brought with her is unknown. Also, the audience knows Luke and Ahsoka have met but the rest of the characters might not know that.
Luke found Moff Gideon because he was searching for Grogu who was calling out to him through the force. I’m pretty sure he had no clue who Gideon was nor did he care.
You think? I was more of the opinion that Luke knew about Gideon, but realized other people would take him down, he was more concerned with Grogu due to the fact he was of Yoda's people and so rarely powerful. When Luke saw the Dark Troopers he knew the crew there couldn't take them, so intervened, but he also new Mando could take Gideon by himself. What do you think of that theory?
Yep Luke didn’t want to get into be on one side or other
@@GenkiTheEthical Luke generally just cared about finding force sensitives at that time, so it likely was a coincidence as much as they can exist within the force.
He may have a little but probably knows more about thrawn
In the eyes of the remnants of the Empire, Luke and Ezra single handedly took the three biggest pieces of the empire off the board at different parts in the war. It’s obvious why the Jedi are so feared within the empire.
Four. Remember, Grand Moff Tarkin was on the Death Star when Luke blew it up.
Everyone always underestimates the Skywalkers from Anakin to Luke to Kol and Cade. You would think that they would learn. Giddeon had it right. For him knowing that it was indeed Luke, the fear in his eyes was visceral. That wasn't just fear, that was pure, unadulterated terror!! So much so that he was willing to do himself in before he would have to stand before Luke's justice. But in the end, Luke didn't even express any interest in Giddeon. So it seems that Giddeon was privy to the story of Luke on DS2, and he was terrified!
Luke is such a badass. I’d be afraid too like Thrawn
I'd love to see this interaction in canon and see Thrawn's reaction to Luke's heritage. No doubt he'd connect the dots on who his mother is.
From what I understand the Marriage between Anakin and Padme was not on official records he might suspect that the Organas were good friends with Skywalker but that's about it and that wouldnt give him an edge against luke since padmes dead thrawn might not even know about Leia
He thought Ahsoka was a problem Luke is going to give him nightmares lol
No kidding out of the frying pan and into the fire! (If Disney doesn’t screw it up….)
@@anchorsaweigh9893 don’t give me hope 😭🙌🏽 Luke and Ezra will be a straight problem and don’t let them throw in Cal 🤯
@@martixboywill Agree 💯 Disney really could make a crazy fortune but I doubt they will capitalize given the current leadership
@@anchorsaweigh9893 in a perfect world we get that 😂
Based off thrawns reaction to hearing ashoka was trained by anakin we could assume he'd be terrified of Luke since he's anakins son
If I’m not mistaken Thrawn only said that after he determined Luke as too dangerous to try to turn to a puppet
Thrawn is not in the Sequel Trilogy because he noped back to Peridia the instant he finds out about Anakin's kids. One of the most powerful Jedi ever, and a leader of the Republic's military. 😱
Do you know if he is terrified of Anakin Skywalker’s apprentice, a Ahsoka Tano then he should be scared of Anakin, Skywalker’s kids, Luke, and Leia
Thrawn is not the kind of person who goes anywhere without gathering whatever information he can. Once he return he will try to get any, and all information about everything. So he will ask about the past years, and that means he will not take Luke lightly.
They have to add Luke to this story. Just recast him, it is time
or use CGI if they are willing to pay for the expenses. Sebastian Stan is best canditate for Luke Skywalker.
Mark Hamill has already given his blessing for Sebastian (not that it was necessarily needed), should they approach Stan for the role.
Sounds like a recast is inevitable. And necessary
@@Pecos1 yea
they will not add Luke to the story, KK wants to delete old star wars, not revive. Sadly SW now means Star WAS
I read this from someone else and i think it makes sense
As far as most of the galaxy know Luke Skywalker entered a room with Darth Vader And The Emperor darth Sidious and only Luke left that room
So yea i understand why people in the empire are afraid of him
Don't forget he played a key role in the destruction of both death stars... Something that many believed to be impossible.
@@alexeidenier4072 that's also another very good point to his feared reputation
@@kurtpunchesthings2411 I almost forgot about the fact that Palpatine led a campaign dragging the Jedi order through the mud making everyone believe all kinds of things about them (true or not) and within a lifetime the Jedi were also spearheading a giant war that ravaged the galaxy against an enemy that was also being led by what many believed to be another Jedi so lots of people will believe that Jedi's are extremely dangerous.
Wow what an opportunity for these 2 to meet .
("The GRIM REAPER of the Empire..." -I love it!) -He thinks Luke is Powerful... -He destroyed BOTH, of what could have been Thrawn's NEW TOYS..!
I’d love to see thrawns reaction to Luke cutting down his undead storm troopers like it’s nothing.
Jagged Fel wasn't an imperial admiral in Legends. He was the Imperial Head of State during the Fate of the Jedi novel series.
Thrawn is not going to be getting "advice" from the Nightsisters. He's using them until they are of no further use.
I Hope We See Luke In Season 2 Of Ahsoka. Since Leia Was Mentioned By C-3P0, It Would Make Sense For The Legendary Jedi Master To Return To Try & End Thrawn & His Plans👍👍
I think we will see Luke come up in the fight against Thrawn, my reason being; Thrawn is smart, when he hears how the Emperor and Vader died (if he hasn’t already) by a Jedi, and that Jedi having the name Skywalker, he will most definitely see Luke as a threat and that his new Empire won’t survive with Luke around. Therefore he will probably send someone he trusts to kill Luke, forcing Luke to get involved and help take down Thrawn. I don’t think Luke will be the focus but he definitely will play a big role
Great video and insight, as always with you guys! Tho, just a very minor point: I think you meant "anomy" instead of "anarchy". While it's still true that Luke brougyt anarchy (absence of leader/leadership) to the Empire, it's most probably anomy (absence of rules/laws) that you meant :)
If Disney is smart then they will bring Luke into the story it would make complete sense that thrawn brought the night sisters with him so they can deal with Luke since he knows he would be outclassed by himself as strategically he knows that he was able to take down Vader and palpatine so he's going to need more firepower
My guess is that Thrawn can't personally interact with the force and what he can't personally interact with, he fears or dismisses
Luke will definitely be a priority 1 for Thrawn, enough that he may focus on drawing him out by inflicting “unnecessary” violence.
Not sure how eager Luke will be to interfere with galactic affairs, but the events of Thrawn’s invasion might radically change his approach
If I wanted to draw Luke out I'd look for what Gideon was after hire some hunters to try to grab Grugu
I think it might actually turn out really similar to Heir to the Empire. I think the great mothers/nightsisters might replace the ysalamiri. A number in Jedi fallen order there was that dark Jedi that was on dathomir called Taron Malicos. If he's there when Thrawn arrives he might be Thrawns Jorus C'baoth. And then Enoch is obviously the replacement for Rukh. Then we know Captain Palleon is still around as we saw him and Mando season 3.
The problem with writing a 'genius' character is that they have to behave as such, the writing for Thrawn is full of obvious plot holes e.g. Morgan Elspeth was a loyal underling who was of genius level herself to find a way to bring him back and yet what does he do? Tell them to sacrifice themselves to delay a jedi. He had zombie stormtroopers for that. Would his genius level final plan be easier to achieve with her or without her? The answer is obvious so why sacrifice her needlessly?
Yes I agree ,once again they are about to ruin a great character but I cannot blame the writers because they're only working with what Disney is providing which makes no sense. They have portrayed Thrown as an officer who hates the rebellion when this isn't true , he has chosen the empire over the Alliance because he decided they would be better equipped to ward off the coming threat of the yusef vong. I hope Disney is smart enough to incorporate Timothy Zahn's genius tale and not make the mistake. they made by omitting Leia's , Hans and Luke's children. I believe that they are going to ruin the character by not delving into Thrawn's total psyche which we know they will not do...
Ahsoka Season 2 will end with Ahsoka coming back to the known galaxy and introducing Ezra to Luke. You heard it here first.
or maybe ezra and luke will both try to get them back
Not only Luke..... The mandalorians are looking for some payback for the night of a thousand tears.
Thrawn will have his hands full with the remaining Jedi and Mando
Thrawn's only chance is to exhaust LucasFilm's budget so DeepLuke can never catch up to him. 🤫
To sum it up….Thrawn is a scaredy-cat
It would be great to see Luke being Thrawn's most prominent enemy in season 2 of Ashoka. But more likely it will be Ezra Bridger.
Not only that Luke is the son of Anakin Skywalker, but what do you think Thrawn's reaction will be if he learns that Luke studied under General Obi-Wan Kenobi? During the Clone Wars, General Kenobi was called "The Negotiator" not because of his skills at diplomacy, but because Kenobi had such a reputation that if Separatists leaders got intel that Kenobi was in the battle theatre, they'd often just surrender before another shot was fired.
I think it's kind of the tragedy of Thrawn that for such a brilliantly-detached mind and engaged attention in the right sorts of ways for a military commander, (and even without wasting promising talent among the Imp officer corps,) the biggest talent he wasted was *himself.* I mean, here's a guy that survived even Imperial bigotry by both extraordinary circumstances and making himself indispensable. Here he's being set up, not as a guy even getting to be an alien in the Navy because the Emperor thought him loyal, but thinking the remnants of the Empire are somehow the best hope for order and peace in the galaxy, when really he could be just the guy to make the New Republic militarily effective, probably with less, while also keeping that miliary out of civilians' faces. (And he could probably just kinda purr at some of the hapless Remnant Moffs with ...his leadership skills and rep to get them to *stand down with what they got* if not actually join up. )
I mean, I know to the extent he was heard of, he mighta done some war crimes or been associated with them, so maybe no one wants to hand him a fleet, but as for his personal agenda under the circumstances, you gotta wonder why he seems to think rying to go through every blaster and turbolaser in the 'known galaxy' would be the best way to achieve them. (Obviously we love a smart villain like him but it's kinda tragic anyway. He's fixed ineffective forces to some degree before.
Because at the end of the day he serves the Chiss first and foremost. He served the empire for the Chiss Ascendancy's benefit. He sees the republic as weak and disorganized. The Empire was largely disorganized but he could carve his own niche out. The republic is arrogant and ineffective, and the reason the empire was able to rise in the first place was because the old galactic senate was corrupt, much of that came back with the post-empire republic right away. Which was why the first order was able to take them by surprise.
@@shadowpillar2483 There seems to be a real question how much he actually *knows* or can know about what the New Republic is. He fought the Rebellion, but it seems he'd want better intel than ...maybe some witch-channelings before really picking a grand strategy.
Do you know who the admiral should be afraid of? Tot the dog
Disney has ignored and marginalized Luke for far too long. This is sacrilege to do this to one of the top characters of the Star Wars universe
This video was phenomenal, i laughed hard at the part when you said thrawn changed his tune when he found out Ahsoka was Anakin's apprentice, how do you think he'll react when he finds out Luke is his son. That sent me over😂😂 Thrawn is gonna be pissed.
It's like switching from looking down the barrel of a Luger to looking down the barrel of a 44 Magnum.
Disney hates the Original characters. I doubt Luke will have have any prominent role in any upcoming Disney StarWars.
Luke in Legends was a monster of a warrior and it seems he is one in the new canon as well. Thrawn should be wary of him.
They should have stuck with Legends! It is better than any replacement story they have.
I rewatched all Star Wars movies after Ahsoka and came to some interesting conclusions about the sequels. It seems like Ahsoka recycled some Rise of Skywalker but did it better. Specifically the introduction of "Kintsugi" mending broken armour to Star Wars. I don't think Kylo Ren should have used the mask again, it felt blatantly like a ploy to sell movie exclusive merch but how it was done in Ahsoka served the narrative, the concept worked in Ahsoka where it seemed shoe horned in for marketing in the movie.
They definitely, do think that Luke killed both Palpatine, Vader but he didn't kill Anakin. Anakin as a father and Jedi saved his son, as his body passed away he became one with force. He will always be there to support Luke as he did in many comics even on Exegol or as we now know Ahsoka too
Kathleen Kennedy is more terrified of Luke than Thrawn.
She claims to say the force is female and yet she completely disregards women whenever something doesn't fit with her fantasy. Luke became the symbol of hope and redemption, Leia strong and firm in her cause, and Han loose and relaxed in intense situations. The trio made Star wars great and without proper honor to the original. The new will fail every time
I don't think Luke would care about Thrawn and galactic politics. In my mind, he's very content to chill out in some remote system and to rebuild the Jedi order in peace. After a new hope, he only ever fought the empire out of necessity. His focus was on his Jedi training and then on his father. Even in battlefront 2, he only ever came into contact with the empire because he was looking for an artifact in an imperial vault. In my opinion, Thrawn would have to go out of his way to pull Luke into the conflict.
Thrawn in some ways just came to meet his doom
I'm sure that man is a capable actor, but the Chiss...That is not the live-action embodiment of how I pictured Thrawn to be
The galaxy is a big place. Not everything has to interconnect.
Young Luke is so cool to me because how he adapts. And how he would have been a Jedi consular in Yoda’s Jedi, instead of a knight. The meditation he does prepares him for all missions he takes on.
A few times in the series, they showed us that the New Republic has a fleet with nothing much to do.
Well.....he is the son of vader - That alone should terrify anyone, regardless if knowing that he may be a good guy jedi.
The imperials just know that he was taken to palpatines throne room where some kind of confrontation took place followed by the emperors, vaders and the empires fall.
Think asses of a Thrawn/Luke relationship is a bit critical ATM. Since they've quite possibly heard OF each other but haven't even to our knowledge had hardly even indirect dealing with each other much less met. Both like to see for themselves when it matters MOST. An all they need to demonstrate an make clear they both value peace an order to open possibilities for possible negotiations an perhaps some kinda peace somewhere down the line. Though highly doubt anything along a truce or alliance will be seen UNLESS we see something on the order of a Vong or brand, brand new Sith conflict errupt in all the ways that neither of them like enough to spur actions from either or both against it.. in which case being whom they are we'd see some kinda arc where they both basically tell each other to keep outta the way, etc an so on.. but that's probably a bit too much expectations from current Disney too
Luke is the Baba Yaga to the Imperials
That's a thought Ive been having just now while watching this video. What if Thrawn figures out Luke is the son of Darth Vader? I think he can find that out with how intelligent he is.
Knowing how Thrawn is that makes perfect sense to me that he would have all the force users killed in legends. Thrawn isn't force sensitive and apart from that pet he had that inhibited the force he wouldn't really stand a chance.
I cant wait until he learns of twins. he seems to actually almost fear of all things anakin. please let luke take the lead and blow his powers up to the top level force.
Lets see he knew who Anakin Skywalker was. That list name alone will give him pause to Luke.
Zero tolerance. Two Tie Fighters.
Unless they recast him no Luke, gotta be a rematch Thrawn v Ezra. I haven't seen a deep fake show or movie that at some point wasn't cringe, plus the expense no way cheap as Disney will pay the writers more then approve deep fake
emperor's undefeated enforcer... um... obi-wan twice? arguably ahsoka? g. marek?
To bad Disney would never add luke to this
I really hope we see Luke, Ahsoka and Ezra all be epic Jedi and take down Thrawn. I’m thinking it may have to be a movie instead of a show. But also, probably won’t be seen for a nice little while. Writers and actors strike and all.
If luke does show up in someway or another face to face against Thrawn than Thrawn better have some ways to counter luke connection to the force or hes screwed also it eould be cool if luke somehow ends up in The World between Worlds talking to Anakin learning more skills for i bet Anakin in the Ahsoka series may of already sensed a dark presence popping in the galaxy
Well Palatine and Vader were the strongest forces in the universe and Luke walked away after killing them both at the same time in the view of the Empire.
I would love a whole series about the after War years from Lukes perspective, that would be awesome
what the empire said about jedi is exactly what sith do the irony
Luke Skywalker is John Wick for that galaxy. Baba Yaga
Can you please do an episode of all of Luke Skywalkers friends I bet that will be a big episode. May the Force be with you.
Thrawn is one of the few imperial's officer who didn't afraid of Darth Vader. Why would he be afraid of luke or other Jedi?
what does thrawn think about Anakin now, does he hate him or is it something more complicated
Now that Luke is old and wise, he runs the risk of becoming boring, like Ahsoka has.
Recast, then have him take a major L.
Filoni and crew are treading lightly in regards to Luke. Rightfully so ...
Thrawn would be wary of Luke. But he wouldn‘t formulate strategies regarding him based on heresay alone. He would gather information, try to understand Luke and then decide whether he is a threat and how he should be dealt with. That approach preserves the best thing about the character: the fact that he manages to be an antagonist without being outright evil.
Novel Thrawn would take his time to assess the state the galaxy is in and I would take it for granted that he‘ll conclude rebuilding the empire as it was is the best course of action.
Fearing Anakin's Apprentice and Progeny makes a lot of sense, given that anything or anyone that comes from Anakin Skywalker is very unorthodox in methods 😅
good study!
Maybe in Disney Wars, but in the original extended universe that wasn’t the case.
Knowing KK and her hate for the real skywalkers….little hope I have to see Luke again, let alone lead the new republic against thrawn
Do you have a video about entire Star Wars timeline?
I Admiral and Luke if they fight it going to be the greatest thing ever also, do we know if Luke is going to be re-cast
Unfortunately for this Thrawn story it looks like Disney is trying to sub in Ashoka for Luke because Kennedy thinks, the Force is female.
Thrawn probably already knows all about Luke now. I’m sure he’s familiar with who was the one who blew up the first Death Star and while not everyone knows, he’s also the only guy on that second Death Star who walked into a room with Vader and Palpatine in there and was the only one to escape that room alive.
Can't wait for luke to pull up
Sounds like it's time to recast Luke Skywalker
Luke cared so much about stopping the empire he let the forst order take over
I don't particularly like a LOT of the tiny details, but I had been thinking the same thing. And not just Luke, but Leia... We're going to see those red eyes open wide. We may even see Thrawn cry lol
Probably because Luke is the one, he brought Vader back and destroyed the Emperor...Luke is repsonsible for the downfall of the Empire and achieved what his father could not. He is the most powerful jedi/force wielder that existed...not that crap Disney Wars has you believe.
I love how everyone thinks Luke killed Vader and Palps, when in reality Luke used the power of love on Vader to redeem him and Vader chucked palps down a reactor pit.
Thrawn was worried but he tried to use Yasmalerie to stop him. His plan failed because Mara Jade,Luke and Leia were Luke’s back Jacen and Jaina were taught by Luke to become Jedi.
Would mogarn not mention luke SKYWALKER took down the emperor?
When you enter the death star with Vader and Palpatine, being the only one to walk one. Yeah I'd be scared of that mf to
Did the battle of Jakku happened already? I know that Jakku was like the Empire's last stand, but I taught it was in the sense it was the finally defeated after which whatever remnant remaining fled to the unknown regions to later come back as the First Order. And I imagined that would be what we would see in the Filoni's wrap-up movie of the mando-verse. But by your wording I take it as if the battle o Jakkun may have already taken place some time before the start of the events of Mando's season 1.
Yes, it did already happen. It's listed as happening in 5 ABY and Thrawn was defeated in 0BBY and the Ahsoka show takes place in around 11 ABY.
While luke will likely appear in canon during this time, i honestly dont think they're gonna do thr rivarly thing they did in legends, mostly because feloni has always viewed things just a tiny bit differently than the old continuity. Which is fine.
But still, my point stands.
Luke will probably more of appear as the scariest thing thrawn has had to fight ever. And I do mean ever.
But i doubt he'll take the main stage, this is a story about ashoka and her associates, not luke skywalker, as much as literally anyone who liked starwars before disney stole it would like it to be.
My theory is luke will be presented with a bigger problem than thrown. Likely more to do with the father statue we seen with baylon in ahsoka. Abeloth? Some other entity ? I’m not sure. Possibly the night sisters. But in any case. I think thrawn will most definitely be dealt with by ahsoka Ezra and Sabine. Possibly grogu and mando will help Luke?
Well if one powerful individual disturbs the peace in the galaxy the Jedi showing up is inevitable like moth to a flame.
Anakin's children are sure terrifying, but Thrawn is the one to make it a challenge for Luke and Leia. Mr. red eyes is gonna put the New Republic against them, creating such a mess they'll look bad and they'll not be able to get near him.
A Jedi isn’t difficult to kill.
Why are people saying that Luke killed Darth Vader and Sidious when we all know that Vader was the one that killed Sidious and sacrificed himself in order to save Luke?
The Imperials saw Darth Vader and Luke go to the Emperor's throne room together but Luke was the only one who walked out while dragging Vader over his shoulder.
What game is he using for the gameplay
I just want to say.. ok thrawn can rally support from the shadow government etc but overall he's still got just one ship, how can he occupy a million worlds at once? I think the sense of scale here is being lost as opposed to a setting such as warhammer 40 k where we really feel the sense of scale.
Well, he's got that mysterious cargo. Maybe that will allow him to expand his fleet
It is possible that he will learn Luke is the son of the Sith Enforcer.
So let me get this straight, Thrawn knows of Luke, but doesn't know his last name is Skywalker?
Is Thrawn timeline altered from the Chiss Ascendancy? or would disney compined the remnant of imperial to Chiss Ascendancy. That is the Big question.