Serral is OP and needs a nerf. Next balance update, Serral will be banned from using a keyboard and mouse, and forced to only control with an n64 controller. Should have more even games with this small tweak.
I love watching these, because Starcraft is something I played as a kid (haven't even played StarCraft II). Watching the Pro's do it adds a lot of perspective.
Love the insight as to why protoss open with starport. For someone who is new to watching, but never played. That kind of insight helps make the game make sense.
Mark Hurley you are not alone. I started watching when SC2 came out (MarineLord is my man!). Bought the game 1 year later, played like 6 games, almost died of stress and was like ”I’ll stick to SC on the TV for now and forever” 😂 Best e-sports game there is though!
It's interesting that Starcraft is so balanced that sometimes a small strategic decision can lose you the game, but sometimes a complicated series of tactical and strategic decisions lead to a game that is tense until the end. Starcraft is the ultimate RTS.
Yeah, but then in the next game Mana does the same thing all over again: "Oh, you brought your army this time? Go ahead. try and punish my aggressive blink stalkers. See what happens." *preps Storms*
It only sounds ridiculous if you skip the context of the first part of the sentence: "Now as you say that though, if you have TEN Broodlords, I don't care if you have Blink Stalkers you're not going to win that fight." Context is key.
Robert Reid Except the context in question is implying that if you have a sizable force of brood lords his army gets hard countered yet that exact situation the context was intended for happened and Mana turned it on it’s head xD
Ive been watching these tournaments for years.. listening to these guys for so long… and still dont get a fck about the whole tournament system, circuit, series or whatever… however it Works...
Sadly but true. It happens too often, when best players outside of Korea get stomped on GLS by random Korean player. It forces them to get some training on Korean servers.
Yeah, but recently the foreign scene has caught up. Players like neeb and serral can beat koreans and are the only foreigners you’d even think about winning gsl. But we also have the return of mana, nerchio is an eternal king, tricky people like TLO, stephano can if he’s in a good mood, etc.
Sword OfWar neebs been... I’m not actually sure. This tournament was the return of mana plain and simple. As for Leipzig... not sure I think he got serraled.
generally don't like it either. if it is not something the player would enjoy, and clearly it is not as seen here, then i think it is better to do something else. and yes it is done out of a good heart, so no hate, just think it would be nice with some treat a little more "gamer orientated" ^^
At least they've stopped having the gamer lock arms with two models while walking out to the trophy like they did to poor MorroW after he reaper rushed IdrA to death.
Mana did awesome against serral. Huge props... Fun to watch. Also glad serral took all those champ wins this year. NO more saying "Best in sc2 except korea"....Cant say that anymore. The tiger woods of gaming... Thats a nice label.
Ah, game 4 was so tragic by Mana. He had that game won all he had to do was plug that hole. ONE SENTRY would have won the game for him. Maybe a couple of batteries and a cannon. Being up 3-1 on Serral would have applied a lot of mental pressure. Even in Game 6, Mana made the same mistake again. If those lings don't get into his main and wreck all those probes, he might have been able to reinforce his counter push enough to wreck Serral and force a Game 7.
sometimes, i get the feeling that serral limits his gameplay to not make it too overwhelming to his opponent. on some game he limits his workers. just the feels...
Erebus2075 Idk...I think he has room for improvement and some of his issues have to do with lack of practice. But I might just be fan-boying a bit too much :P He hade this series so interesting.
I would say the only reason he got this far WAS because of the amount of practice he did. He even stated multiple times that he had been practicing very seriously. Problem is serral practices just as much if not more and certainly seems to have far more talent. Talent + skill/work-ethic > work-ethic alone.
It would look a lot less awkward if he just started chugging it after spraying the champagne a little bit. This kid really needs a champagne coach since I'm sure he'll insist on winning more of these.
why there are no cannon cheese in these finals ever @@ mass roach all in won these series , i have seen proxy raks too but never proxy nexus or cannon cheese in grand finals lol Why?
Ryan Underdog story mainly. MaNa was a fan favorite miracle run who took out 3 favorites that were heavily favored against him. People believed. It's part of why the crowd was so hyped when he went up 2-1. MaNa himself made us believe right there, if only for a game
they act as though MaNa is the underdog, when he has been around SCII longer than Serral and had more championships under his belt (at the time of this tournament), so it's either the crowd are just simply bias for Mana (or Protoss in general) or they recognize Serral has significant skill for a relatively new comer and poses as a real threat. Which kind of explains the twitch votes, as the subjects needs to be changed. from who do you think has the higher chance of winning? to who do you want to win? Its not based on any rational objective probability, but more 'wishing'. All the players are great to be in those bracket and get that far, but I would not take my bias to Las Vegas.
![Starcraft II - Rogue [Z] vs. Classic [P] - GRAND FINAL - IEM Katowice 2018](http://i.ytimg.com/vi/83MUTcvi3jk/mqdefault.jpg)
That "gg congratulations" from Mana was such a class act!
Im really going to miss these events... being the way they are, packed full of fans.
Serral is OP and needs a nerf. Next balance update, Serral will be banned from using a keyboard and mouse, and forced to only control with an n64 controller. Should have more even games with this small tweak.
You should've seen SC2 before the Florencio controller nerf my guy.
Serral deserves all those victories!
You know clem ?
1:16:00 AWESOME interaction between Kevin and Geoff about their on-air chemistry.
RIP InControl!!! He was the original dank memer.
watching this a year later and hearing incontrol's cast brings a tear to my eye, RIP Incontrol, you are surely missed :(
Wow! that second game MaNa victory was amazing! What amazing Protoss play!!! Just beautiful!
"He had me at plus one air weapons"
Rotti, you are a gift.
This was a great series. Ive never seen such a hype crowd after MaNa went up 2-1
Polish people bro :D
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this is the start of serral's domination in starcraft 2, 2019 and now he's a god walking among men.
Amazing games, awesome series all round, fantastic casting, fantastic crowd. Absolutely loved Austin this year.
lmao 31:09 Stalker gets an Overlord and Mana dances it in celebration.
¡Serral es un groso, todo un capo con los zerg!
Thxlol
OMG!
lol that's pretty cute actually, I didn't notice it. Mana is an OK dude *thumbs up*
in case you couldn't spot the joy in his face
I love watching these, because Starcraft is something I played as a kid (haven't even played StarCraft II). Watching the Pro's do it adds a lot of perspective.
game start 11:41
thank you! xD
Thank you gentleman
A true hero
You're the real MVP
Silluete il
Love the insight as to why protoss open with starport. For someone who is new to watching, but never played. That kind of insight helps make the game make sense.
Mark Hurley you mean stargate
ColJack100 more proof I don't play the game lol
Mark Hurley hahaha lol, true xD but it's a good game, give it a try :)
Mark Hurley you are not alone. I started watching when SC2 came out (MarineLord is my man!). Bought the game 1 year later, played like 6 games, almost died of stress and was like ”I’ll stick to SC on the TV for now and forever” 😂
Best e-sports game there is though!
Ola Justin my favorite is life...seems to have dropped off the scene...been watching all the sc2 I can find. He is great at offense
IS IT THOOOOUUUUGH?!?! InControl is the best. This series was rad, too!
Alex Najdek but is he thaaugh?
Incholesterol
He was the best until he took that god-awful agreement to demo play Command and Conquer: Rivals....
12:13, 28:40, 44:02, 1:00:14
also 1:12:40 and 1:22:53
Is there a reason why WCS cant just do this from the start.
Thanks
Because if you know there’s only 6 games you can tell who might win at 3-2 lol
Day9 adds an hour of blank space at the end so there’s no spoilers
Great series I love the play style of Mana looking forward to watching him play more.
It's interesting that Starcraft is so balanced that sometimes a small strategic decision can lose you the game, but sometimes a complicated series of tactical and strategic decisions lead to a game that is tense until the end. Starcraft is the ultimate RTS.
1:36:17 It feels great, obviously.
"I dont care if you have blink stalkers you're not going to win that fight" blinks on brood lords and wins fight lol
Well, that was just because Serral's army simply wasn't there, and broodlords are helpless by themselves
Yeah, but then in the next game Mana does the same thing all over again: "Oh, you brought your army this time? Go ahead. try and punish my aggressive blink stalkers. See what happens." *preps Storms*
It only sounds ridiculous if you skip the context of the first part of the sentence: "Now as you say that though, if you have TEN Broodlords, I don't care if you have Blink Stalkers you're not going to win that fight."
Context is key.
Robert Reid Except the context in question is implying that if you have a sizable force of brood lords his army gets hard countered yet that exact situation the context was intended for happened and Mana turned it on it’s head xD
he had five broodlords, lol. That's nothing
1:44:34 OMG that last zergling running a circle around the zealots and lasthitting the drone!!!
That intro is amazingly well edited!
It brought on all of my feels :')
Love it when Geoff is casting
Ive been watching these tournaments for years.. listening to these guys for so long… and still dont get a fck about the whole tournament system, circuit, series or whatever… however it Works...
use liquipedia
It’s funny how Korea is put up as another tier of pro play. Serral is the best player... outside of Korea.
Sadly but true. It happens too often, when best players outside of Korea get stomped on GLS by random Korean player. It forces them to get some training on Korean servers.
Serral is on the Korean level.
Yeah, but recently the foreign scene has caught up. Players like neeb and serral can beat koreans and are the only foreigners you’d even think about winning gsl.
But we also have the return of mana, nerchio is an eternal king, tricky people like TLO, stephano can if he’s in a good mood, etc.
Truestm is Neeb in a slouch? Or is he just less dominant this season?
Sword OfWar neebs been... I’m not actually sure. This tournament was the return of mana plain and simple. As for Leipzig... not sure I think he got serraled.
Incontrol passed a year later. RIP to the legend.
That intro was dope af
InControl is such a good announcer, Keeps it real, keeps casting InControl.
MaNa is an AMAZING player! Heads up!!!
it's good to see such rousing spirits for esports
MaNa is such a sportsman respect to him
They both are.
awesome fights.
Can we please stop the champagne celebration lol
Yeah it's pretty bad and usually awkward. Maybe that's what they're going for though.
generally don't like it either.
if it is not something the player would enjoy, and clearly it is not as seen here, then i think it is better to do something else. and yes it is done out of a good heart, so no hate, just think it would be nice with some treat a little more "gamer orientated" ^^
Yeah, like a date with Smix.
At least they've stopped having the gamer lock arms with two models while walking out to the trophy like they did to poor MorroW after he reaper rushed IdrA to death.
I agree it's dumb. What we need is for a Brit to win and then just drink the stuff......that should put a stop to it :)
that game 2 come from behind was outstanding.
Being from Austin.. I love this video!! And SC! So it's GRRREEEAAAATTTTT!!!!! :D
In Control you'll be missed
31:11 is the stalker dancing? xD
Secret of MaNa
Shut up lol
Mana did awesome against serral. Huge props... Fun to watch. Also glad serral took all those champ wins this year. NO more saying "Best in sc2 except korea"....Cant say that anymore. The tiger woods of gaming... Thats a nice label.
I have seen alot of starcraft recently and i have NEVER seen a player smile while being filmed - do they even like starcraft 2?
29:02 WCS Lepizig CHAMPCHION! :)
RIP incontrol
Nonplussed means the opposite of how you used it at 1:01:18. "Surprised and confused so much that they are unsure how to react."
I know im late but you know the scene has changed when mana is called an underdog.
58:01 The timing on that announcer call
DUCKDEOK's win will always be an emotional memory. Starcraft will live forever.
and Stardust.
Mana should have invested even 1 or 2 Shield Batteries on his base everytime it helps on the defense a lot...
Learning a grand finals player how to play the game yeaaaaaaaaah
@@wrath5420 He's right though. Shield batteries make a huge difference. Don't try and pretend that pros are perfect and can't improve anything.
@@wrath5420 even rotti says it at about 17:40
@StarCraft Esports link not found. Whhyyyyyy blizzard must I dig for tournament information T.T
Serril is a Beast. He is the swarm!
Intense, congratulations to Serral for showing the swarm so much love. #2 for the year... wow
"gg congratulations" --Mana
Ah, game 4 was so tragic by Mana. He had that game won all he had to do was plug that hole. ONE SENTRY would have won the game for him. Maybe a couple of batteries and a cannon. Being up 3-1 on Serral would have applied a lot of mental pressure. Even in Game 6, Mana made the same mistake again. If those lings don't get into his main and wreck all those probes, he might have been able to reinforce his counter push enough to wreck Serral and force a Game 7.
zergling rush so nostalgic
Starcraft is the evolution of chess :)
Chess is perfect information though, Starcraft isn't.
I call Starcraft fast chess with guns :)
Nah, Starcraft has fog of war mate. You have to scout and there's an economy as well.
Serral is one of the best zergs I have ever seen, he makes it look so easy.. lol
1:08:50 starcraft commercial during a starcraft tournament of pro gamers........................ YEAHHHHHHHH..... - isn't that a little ... redundant?
1:12:49 Incontrol "hopefully you guys stretched it out" :( rip
Im just here for the host. She could get it any day of the week.
1:28:06 he lost when that probe died, huge delay, big mistake
Serral was a lot more hungry, you can tell by his body.
Gg serral best zerg in the world
what a tiny map acid plant is. game one really emphasized that to me.
sometimes, i get the feeling that serral limits his gameplay to not make it too overwhelming to his opponent. on some game he limits his workers. just the feels...
Nice outfit from the host!
Outclassed.
1:15:50 I agree 100% with incontrol. Maybe Serral wasn't used to playing against double stargate at the time
MaNa you got this!!!
Did anyone noticed the similarity between serral and idra? Maybe good old grack haven't left at all...
0:36 SPOILER xD
No that was from Leipzig, he won that a couple months ago
I know. it was a joke...
DobroSC2 oh, I feel like an r/whooosh
The crows was crazy in this game
activate plan c-3
Did Mana just change the Meta like polt.Fantastic game Mana.
Mana always looks like he's about to cry.
Not really. Neeb does when Mana 3-0 him.
"hes your reigning chamshion"
Clave fundamental contra los zergs son los altos templarios, gran error del protoss
Gratz Serral!!!!
Man if Mana practices a bit more he's gonna be unstoppable :O
Seems like he is already training at his limit, might get carpal tunnel syndrome if he does more. Like Jaedong.
unstoppable ony exist in myth, disney's story and marvel/dc comics
are you assuming anyone who gets to the finales ain't giving it their all to get there? ^^
as valken said: this is properly his current limit ^^
Erebus2075 Idk...I think he has room for improvement and some of his issues have to do with lack of practice. But I might just be fan-boying a bit too much :P He hade this series so interesting.
I would say the only reason he got this far WAS because of the amount of practice he did. He even stated multiple times that he had been practicing very seriously. Problem is serral practices just as much if not more and certainly seems to have far more talent. Talent + skill/work-ethic > work-ethic alone.
Where i can buy that cup of coffe??? At 1:25
He got the GG!
It would look a lot less awkward if he just started chugging it after spraying the champagne a little bit. This kid really needs a champagne coach since I'm sure he'll insist on winning more of these.
0:03 funny... if they used the actual INGAME MODEL... it would have looked better
Dude stalkers would have helped a lot in the games he lost. Mana skipped stalkers but could not put another unit in their place imho.
Mana never had a chance!
1:15:15 bad poker player, great human. AWW NATE
great commentators, thanks no feardragon
I see a lot of hate all the time directed towards feardragon. I'm curious, why is that?
@@TylerTraverse he's black
MaNa i love u @@
why there are no cannon cheese in these finals ever @@ mass roach all in won these series , i have seen proxy raks too but never proxy nexus or cannon cheese in grand finals lol Why?
Good thing protoss is about to take another ultra bad nerf two years in a row or Serral might actually have competition.
Game 4!!
insane roaches scarifies to get those lings in the main
Hyvä Joona!
I would say no to that champaign thing or I'd douse Smix with it
The commentators keep smirking and giggling when they talk about how "Mana could win! No, really!" Goddamn amateurs. Sell it.
Serral vs Mana = 22-2 total games. So yeah sure. McGregor could beat Mayweather, lol.
can the players hear the comentators?
No
One thing Serral does is he tends to let you win the first couple of games before he wrecks you for the win... loool
How in gods name did the twitch chat vote mana 59- serral 41 jfc
Underdog mentality and general hate towards zerg
Ryan Underdog story mainly. MaNa was a fan favorite miracle run who took out 3 favorites that were heavily favored against him. People believed. It's part of why the crowd was so hyped when he went up 2-1. MaNa himself made us believe right there, if only for a game
they act as though MaNa is the underdog, when he has been around SCII longer than Serral and had more championships under his belt (at the time of this tournament),
so it's either the crowd are just simply bias for Mana (or Protoss in general) or they recognize Serral has significant skill for a relatively new comer and poses as a real threat.
Which kind of explains the twitch votes, as the subjects needs to be changed.
from who do you think has the higher chance of winning?
to who do you want to win?
Its not based on any rational objective probability, but more 'wishing'.
All the players are great to be in those bracket and get that far, but I would not take my bias to Las Vegas.
The Night King!
1:05:00 The casters being completely and utterly wrong lol. "He read the game wrong" they say about the guy who wins a couple minutes later.
can anyone tell me whats the game serral counter a bunker rush?
Look up "Serral vs uThermal ZvT - WCS Challenger 2018 Season 1 - Europe" on Starcraft Esports' channnel (this one)
Where clem ?