Oh no, not the Sur Ron! That's my favorite. I hope you get it figured out and fixed soon. Hope it's nothing too serious or expensive. It's a great bike and has handled everything you've done.
E-Bike riders are slowing learning what us motorcyclists have known for ever, drive like no one sees or hears you 😉 Carful on the right side of cars with driveways, that's a big one. Guess that high speed run was a little too much fun, sorry bout that, not sure what it could be 🤔
I'm sorry to hear about the Sur-Ron but I did warn you about pushing the motor the way you do will have Consequences but I do hope you can sort the problem out
- I think it's your throttle deadband threshold - it might be giving your motor a tiny bit of power after you give it throttle. This is common when the deadband threshold is out of whack. Mine is 0.05v but this can vary from bike to bike. Trying adjusting it by 0.01v intervals until it goes away. Other things to try if that doesn't work: - Run a throttle tune. - Run a motor tune. - Disable regen completely (for testing). - set your power to a lower level and see if it makes a different sound at all. - check all wiring (including phase wires). Jiggle the wires while it's on and see if the noise changes. Could be a loose or shorted wire. - What happens when you give it juice? Does it run normally? Does the motor stutter? If it does stutter then it could be a dead hall sensor, controller problem, loose phase wire or it needs a motor tune. - Have you tried contacting the company that sold you the controller? They might know what it is.
@@MrCentralDriver this can change over time. If it's right on the cusp, then even a tiny bit of water/humidity inside the connector can affect it. Try setting it to a higher value and see if that fixes it (and then let us know - in case other people have this same problem).
@@1a2a53 I tested it on mine. When I went lower (in tiny increments) on the throttle deadband threshold mine made literally the exact same sound. Pushed the deadband threshold back up and it went away again.
I had this happen to mine. Don't know if you washed your bike but...I had just gone for a ride and I sprayed it down then started doing the exact same thing. Took some fans and got to drying it and opened up the throttle housing and it had a bit of water. After everything was dry it all worked perfectly fine..going to be replacing the throttle as that seems to be an issue, with an aftermarket one. You should check out my little build series I have going on here..cheers!
@@MrCentralDriver I would agree. Like I said mine made the same exact noise. So I've got the Magura and Domino throttle on its way..although now it's not doing it but would rather get ahead of the problem.
Check your baseline throttle voltage (voltage when throttle is at rest) and the "deadband" voltage BAC setting. If that deadband is not high enough, the controller could be just barely driving the motor when the throttle is "off", which can cause that noise. If this is the case, sometimes you can torque the throttle away from you to drop the voltage enough and the noise will go away.
Like Chris said put it on a center stand and check your throttle off voltage and try a calibration also Barely twist throttle and get wheel turning and see if noise goes away Throttle off voltage + deadband voltage value = the voltage controller uses to energize current to motor.
Looks like the motor broke just in time. KO motors is now accepting pre orders for their new more powerful Sur Ron motors. I think that would be a nice mod to the bike.
Partly why I never upgraded power on sur Ron. Just use stock motor and controller for extra reliability. Less fun but safer and better for the bike in the long run
Hall sensor might have gone bad, but I don't know, I know nothing about that motor or controller to know if it's using hall sensor/s. I do know on a e-skateboard that sound is usually a bad hall sensor, only reason I suggest the possibility.
does it do the same when u let the rear wheel move , mine does same , think it residual power in the controller or something, but mine doesn't do it if I throttle enuf to make the rear wheel move , hard to explain, but don't give it a tiny bit of throttle, give it a tad more to get the rear wheel moving , if not then I don't know
They probably put a flex coupler on the Shaft of the motor to protect it like old circ pumps / burner motors . Motors turning. No drive , no short . Either that or a mechanical failure because they didn't put a flex coupler in . Don't know the motor
Well that’s cool they’re finally giving the option of the KO motor by itself because when I went to the website last you could only get it with the controller but you would have to make sure it works with your BAC 4000 or BAC 8000 so I assume there’s going to have to be more tuning involved
Yeah it’s was and it was only 1800 for both now it’s 2100 but my boy emailed t them cause we’re in the email list and they replied and said for just the motor will be and option at the end of the month
@@JaeDee66 With my 72v/BAC4000 setup I feel less torque, especially in the beginning It might be less apparent for some people depending on their tires weight/wheels setups (more weight=less torque probably) or whether they have supermoto tires which are 17 inches (smaller than stock) paired with a 48t sprocket for more torque for example instead of a 42t that comes with it So that kinda sucks and it doesn't matter whether you try 5kw, 10kw or 15kw Imagine the engine does 1,2,3,4,5 (5 steps) and imagine the steps are RPM's With a 72v it'll do the steps a little differently because that's what increases the horsepower of the bike... I also know phase amps increases your torque so if you're pairing a BAC4000 with a 72v, keep in mind what I said, the BAC8000 is probably a lot more fun. I might upgrade in the future or get a 60V I'm pretty sure it's the phase amps alone on the BAC8000 that makes it feel more powerful Shreddie Mcskate has an aftermarket 60v and a BAC4000 but his bike does wheelies on demand even when he's going 25-30mph (if I'm not mistaken) and without any body leverage Watch some of his videos to verify what I said If you can get a BAC8000 get it from GLE And then get the mount from litespeed I'm almost 100% sure they're mounted at the same height so it should fit perfectly You can also wait for KO motors to release their new motor & controller Once we get some demonstrations showing us if it's configurable (or how).... if it's more effective and at what RPM's/speeds... then there's the question of which battery is best for it.... if it's better on range... Gotta wait and see
@@joem8601 surronster had the same issue but got a tune setup from emoto bros to give him more torque with the bac4000 controller. That’s my only pushback feedback lol. Thanks for the info I’m legit taking screen shots to use this info as reference in future so thank u
@@JaeDee66 i'm running GLE 4000bac with chibattery 60v battery at 430pa and zero field weakening. The torque from 10mph to 35 or maybe 40 is insane. twist for instant wheelie. crazy. but after 45 the torque goes flat.
@@MrCentralDriver I bet those are Hard to take apart to look at. Some times if one of the copper wraps moves and to close or Blackened from Flying down the Road at Top speed hehehe Can cause it to spark. Honestly i am good with electronics but just learning about ebikes. Sounds like it sparking, If you can take it apart you will see where, it will be black. Scaring on metal. Ugh i hope it is nothing. I love watching you ride.
They need to lower the prices on those damn electric bikes especially the super73 and then the aerial Riders they need to lower the prices on those damn bikes
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Oh no, not the Sur Ron! That's my favorite. I hope you get it figured out and fixed soon. Hope it's nothing too serious or expensive. It's a great bike and has handled everything you've done.
I just got my super73 yesterday after watching your vids so far so good. Keep up the good work man.
E-Bike riders are slowing learning what us motorcyclists have known for ever, drive like no one sees or hears you 😉
Carful on the right side of cars with driveways, that's a big one.
Guess that high speed run was a little too much fun, sorry bout that, not sure what it could be 🤔
Just got my first ebike from my bday April 2th love that thing it’s a. Velowave
I'm sorry to hear about the Sur-Ron but I did warn you about pushing the motor the way you do will have Consequences but I do hope you can sort the problem out
- I think it's your throttle deadband threshold - it might be giving your motor a tiny bit of power after you give it throttle. This is common when the deadband threshold is out of whack. Mine is 0.05v but this can vary from bike to bike. Trying adjusting it by 0.01v intervals until it goes away.
Other things to try if that doesn't work:
- Run a throttle tune.
- Run a motor tune.
- Disable regen completely (for testing).
- set your power to a lower level and see if it makes a different sound at all.
- check all wiring (including phase wires). Jiggle the wires while it's on and see if the noise changes. Could be a loose or shorted wire.
- What happens when you give it juice? Does it run normally? Does the motor stutter? If it does stutter then it could be a dead hall sensor, controller problem, loose phase wire or it needs a motor tune.
- Have you tried contacting the company that sold you the controller? They might know what it is.
I think so too I just never changed it.
@@MrCentralDriver this can change over time. If it's right on the cusp, then even a tiny bit of water/humidity inside the connector can affect it.
Try setting it to a higher value and see if that fixes it (and then let us know - in case other people have this same problem).
did this fix it?
@@1a2a53 I tested it on mine. When I went lower (in tiny increments) on the throttle deadband threshold mine made literally the exact same sound. Pushed the deadband threshold back up and it went away again.
Time for a KO motor :)
I had this happen to mine. Don't know if you washed your bike but...I had just gone for a ride and I sprayed it down then started doing the exact same thing. Took some fans and got to drying it and opened up the throttle housing and it had a bit of water. After everything was dry it all worked perfectly fine..going to be replacing the throttle as that seems to be an issue, with an aftermarket one. You should check out my little build series I have going on here..cheers!
Never washed my bike but I think it’s the deadband of the throttle.
@@MrCentralDriver I would agree. Like I said mine made the same exact noise. So I've got the Magura and Domino throttle on its way..although now it's not doing it but would rather get ahead of the problem.
So if I just let my bike dry up the noise will go away? Thanks
keeping mine stock!!!
Check your baseline throttle voltage (voltage when throttle is at rest) and the "deadband" voltage BAC setting. If that deadband is not high enough, the controller could be just barely driving the motor when the throttle is "off", which can cause that noise. If this is the case, sometimes you can torque the throttle away from you to drop the voltage enough and the noise will go away.
Like Chris said put it on a center stand and check your throttle off voltage and try a calibration also
Barely twist throttle and get wheel turning and see if noise goes away
Throttle off voltage + deadband voltage value = the voltage controller uses to energize current to motor.
Thanks for the help dead band was the problem for me
Looks like the motor broke just in time. KO motors is now accepting pre orders for their new more powerful Sur Ron motors. I think that would be a nice mod to the bike.
Yeah I haven’t checked their website today but I know a few days ago they’re only selling it with the controller included.
oh no not good. great video
Please can you tell me how you fixed the problem as I just installed x9000 and my bike is doing the same thing
Throttle dead zone in the settings.
What do I have to do mate in the settings as I’m new to all this 😂
Partly why I never upgraded power on sur Ron. Just use stock motor and controller for extra reliability. Less fun but safer and better for the bike in the long run
Thats boring tho haha
@@MrCentralDriver to each their own . Hope it works out for you , keep us posted
Just ordered bac8000 kit to slow surron stock
Hall sensor might have gone bad, but I don't know, I know nothing about that motor or controller to know if it's using hall sensor/s. I do know on a e-skateboard that sound is usually a bad hall sensor, only reason I suggest the possibility.
does it do the same when u let the rear wheel move , mine does same , think it residual power in the controller or something, but mine doesn't do it if I throttle enuf to make the rear wheel move , hard to explain, but don't give it a tiny bit of throttle, give it a tad more to get the rear wheel moving , if not then I don't know
Damn... bac 8000's are the reason surron Motors are out of stock .... definitely lower the settings....
Still fun tho 😌
@@MrCentralDriver oh 100% 🤣
@@MrCentralDriver now you can give that "ko" Motor a try 💪
Damm bro I feel bad hopefully you don’t need a new motor scary noise
😫
Sounds like electrical arcing in the key switch or breaker.
no the noise is in the motor
sounds like a tick tick tick tick.
can you do a full uncut video of your commute to work for time?
I have many times in old videos
I’m gonna need a Sur rom asap
But my 4k scooter has to be paid off first.
Then I’ll be ripping even more on this thing.
hurry lol
They probably put a flex coupler on the Shaft of the motor to protect it like old circ pumps / burner motors . Motors turning. No drive , no short . Either that or a mechanical failure because they didn't put a flex coupler in . Don't know the motor
My super73 sounded like your surron once and the problem was the gears inside the hub motor snapped. You should plan on buying a new motor. Sorry:(
Hay why not torque arms when you put the new tires on
the motors aren't meant for the power provided by the upgraded controller etc.
yeah i no we all push them hard
Peter Parker got some nice tyers for his supper73 I think they are moto tyres what will not puncher easily
I have some also in my garage
Is there an update?
Still running in my newest videos
@@MrCentralDriver ahh, ok, interested to see how this turns out! Fingers crossed, cheers!
Here in Australia they love to steal E Bikes Thx Mr Cd.
cogging. check the motor connections they might be loose
Sounds like a magnet got loose and grenaded itself
Why did your lights shut off??
No throttle or motor connected to the stock battery.
Ko motor will be ready at the end of the month for the option of motor only bro just get the new motor
Well that’s cool they’re finally giving the option of the KO motor by itself because when I went to the website last you could only get it with the controller but you would have to make sure it works with your BAC 4000 or BAC 8000 so I assume there’s going to have to be more tuning involved
Yeah it’s was and it was only 1800 for both now it’s 2100 but my boy emailed t them cause we’re in the email list and they replied and said for just the motor will be and option at the end of the month
1249.00 for just the motor.
Do u think the bac 8000 was too much for the motor I’ve noticed ppl with bac 4000 don’t tend to have motor issues
It is if you over power it and add hella field weakening. More so overheating the motor and long full Throttle passes will do it. Bursts will not
@@MrCentralDriver so should I just get a 4000 save myself the potential trouble since I’m not as tech savvy
@@JaeDee66 With my 72v/BAC4000 setup I feel less torque, especially in the beginning
It might be less apparent for some people depending on their tires weight/wheels setups (more weight=less torque probably) or whether they have supermoto tires which are 17 inches (smaller than stock) paired with a 48t sprocket for more torque for example instead of a 42t that comes with it
So that kinda sucks and it doesn't matter whether you try 5kw, 10kw or 15kw
Imagine the engine does 1,2,3,4,5 (5 steps) and imagine the steps are RPM's
With a 72v it'll do the steps a little differently because that's what increases the horsepower of the bike...
I also know phase amps increases your torque so if you're pairing a BAC4000 with a 72v, keep in mind what I said, the BAC8000 is probably a lot more fun. I might upgrade in the future or get a 60V
I'm pretty sure it's the phase amps alone on the BAC8000 that makes it feel more powerful
Shreddie Mcskate has an aftermarket 60v and a BAC4000 but his bike does wheelies on demand even when he's going 25-30mph (if I'm not mistaken) and without any body leverage
Watch some of his videos to verify what I said
If you can get a BAC8000 get it from GLE
And then get the mount from litespeed
I'm almost 100% sure they're mounted at the same height so it should fit perfectly
You can also wait for KO motors to release their new motor & controller
Once we get some demonstrations showing us if it's configurable (or how).... if it's more effective and at what RPM's/speeds... then there's the question of which battery is best for it.... if it's better on range...
Gotta wait and see
@@joem8601 surronster had the same issue but got a tune setup from emoto bros to give him more torque with the bac4000 controller. That’s my only pushback feedback lol. Thanks for the info I’m legit taking screen shots to use this info as reference in future so thank u
@@JaeDee66 i'm running GLE 4000bac with chibattery 60v battery at 430pa and zero field weakening. The torque from 10mph to 35 or maybe 40 is insane. twist for instant wheelie. crazy. but after 45 the torque goes flat.
dude look at swappig it with the qs motor water cooled mid drive motor.
qs makes surron motor already
@@410connects he needs a water cooled so he beat on it hard poptard
Sound like its cook
Right
Seems stupid to have a chain drive. Why wouldn't they just put the motor in the wheel hub?
Kid rock
Rip 🪦 surron 😭 hope u can buy a new motor
Electric Motor, sounds like the coils in it our fried and sparking...
What I thought too.
@@MrCentralDriver I bet those are Hard to take apart to look at. Some times if one of the copper wraps moves and to close or Blackened from Flying down the Road at Top speed hehehe Can cause it to spark. Honestly i am good with electronics but just learning about ebikes. Sounds like it sparking, If you can take it apart you will see where, it will be black. Scaring on metal. Ugh i hope it is nothing. I love watching you ride.
need more grizzly videos
Sold it
Sounds like a broken cooling fan
Yeah, that sound is scary as heck.
Right like 😟
Sounds like you ran out of gas
Too much power for that motor in the long run or short run witch ever brakes it first....
Sounds like a electrical short to me like sparking had a cheap ebike do it wire came lose. If you can take it aprart
Junk It !!!
no way lol
E Bike must start gentle start not race it’s a E Bike,not a motorcycle 🤪🤪🤪🤪
They need to lower the prices on those damn electric bikes especially the super73 and then the aerial Riders they need to lower the prices on those damn bikes
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hall sensor or magnet
ended up being the tune for the deadzone on the throttle. once adjusted it went away
@@MrCentralDrivercould you explain what you did with the dead and setting to fix this? Was your setting too low or high?