@@firework8140because he's a CS player who did his best to find the most brain dead arguments to please both communities, but in the end knows he was talking gibberish for the sake of coming with 5 so he doesn't want to hear all the time how dumb each point was because he knows for sure and agrees
@@jozsefkovats7250csgo is so boring because no one communicates or talks about anything other than being a Russian 5 year old complaining that you "only" have a 70 percent headshot rate
yeah I find it funny how his chat can't have their own opinions, it's kinda like the opposite of xqc's but even they have their own opinions sometimes.
The main problem in this valorant vs CSGO debate is that they seem to forget they are 2 different games skins for example why do you try to compare fantasy themed skins to more realisticly designed skins and the price, the price doesn't make a difference if i enjoy CSGO ill buy CSGO skins if i enjoy valorant ill buy valorant skins price is not the problem comparing 2 different things is
One is a product meant to be brought and the other's meant to be some sort of gambling investment. Personally I'd take the one that's just got a reliable price point every day.
I see your point. But I disagree. They are not comparing only what they look like. Most people find something they like in either game. It's the fact that if I want a good skin in cs, I need to have that money to spare, I think ohne forgets that. I myself have roughly 250-300€ in valorant and that includes 4 beautiful knifes. In CS I could barely by 1 good looking knife for my whole Val inventory. It's just not good for young people or those without the means
@@d4-yeet688 it's a video game man it's not that deep you don't have to have skins I play both games but I've bought skins in CS my inventory is worth about €30 and I have skins for most guns I haven't bought skins in valorant because I feel they are too expensive but it's fine it's not like I enjoy either game less because of cosmetics, so while CS knives may be expensive and valorant skins may be relatively cheaper they are not required to play the game these are skill based games not pay to win games
Bro his chat are actual robots. One second they are calling him names but once Ohne said fair point they switch up so fast like bro do u have a personality?
I've seen some over my 1k hours and i never fail to miss seeing a "i miss him" its not as much e daters as before but there still is some, i guess your just new to the game or idk. anyways csgo isnt fun either imo. theres no comms
Valorant is like the game i play the most and yes i see some "i miss her" or stuff but they dont talk or affect the Game in any negative way most of the time so i just let them be and sometimes these are just guys who make fun of these kind of people @@sfyner
Been playing valorant for quite a while, only saw one e-dater couple. Its not as common as stereotypes as CS players think. Again, I also play CS and I do like it a little more, but each game is better at some qualities than the other.
True but the one thing thats making me appreciate valorant way more is the lack of cheaters. I have been playing for 9 months through gold to high diamond 3, and never came across any blatant cheaters while cs 2 feels like going against s1mple every three matches.
I also think edaters are more prominent on US servers, (I’m an EU player) EU servers barely see them, or you’ll see then but I’ve found they either never talk, or they are just nice and not as ara ara cringe as those on EU servers. I also find there is less toxicity on EU servers(… Except Frankfurt, I avoid it like the plague).
I love how every time he brought up a genuine, well made and thought out point, the chat just went "SKIPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPP" or "CRINGE" like, bruh, why tell him to watch a video about the good parts of valorant if you're just going to sit there and complain the whole time while meatriding cs. i genuinely think its interesting to see a different point of view instead of desperately clinging onto one game for eternity the second he actually agrees with a point his chat immediately goes from shittalking to agreeing with him like he flipped a switch
i agree with your opinion. its always great to have an open mind. especially when they were the ones who recommended it. why not let people enjoy what they enjoy and be able to respect that? obviously you dont have to agree with every single thing but no need to be toxic about it.
the video is called "5 Valorant Features That CSGO Fans Can Appreciate" but instead of just getting to the point most of the video was spent bitching about CS, but the whole video was written like an argumentative essay
i love when he says "valorant players have a life, jobs, kids and family" which can be true but we all know that the majority of valorant players can either be 12 old children which are screaming in their mics or be toxic people or no mics just in chat reply, which is really funny
He's not completely wrong about the skins. The CS skins are way better, but it's ridiculous how easily you can spend $3000+ on a decent loadout. Yes, you can sell it if you want, but come on bro, not everybody has a liquid capital of $3000 for fucking skins because they want to look cool after hitting the AWP flick.
As a CS player who went into Valo swearing id never buy those goofy ass skins I gotta say it took me a while to kill my superiority complex about skins or some shit but eventually they grow on you
CS players hating Val skins is definitely one of those things they're forcing themselves to hate, imagine thinking a skin that's a literal fucking Dragon that talks to you is lame. That's just CS players being bitter because everyone thinks Dragons are cool otherwise.
@@MoaciC only for valo, in cs if buy a skin , that skin holds a value, and can be sold at profit or loss taking the market conditions in place, unlike valo where that is locked to your account
@stinkybombs2018 Why does that mean anything? If I wanna involve myself with holding and selling items with value I will do that in real -life not waste my time opening crates or scouring a digital marketplace for stuff that im just gonna gamble away anyways.
@@theo3361yeah no way, they gave russians ability to use vc in valorant and its so bad every single game i que its just ruski ruski ruski 24/7 like do these people not know about discord??
Riot managed to combined the worst of both worlds, League community's toxicity + CS community's toxicity from SEA yknow... Where everyone is toxic as shit. Basically think of CS but with MOBA level toxicity.
@@pupupuppuu League community toxicity as in league in general or SEA league toxicity. Cause I dont think LoL is that popular in SEA compared to DoTA ( garena yknow ). But regardless yeah SEA is toxic.
@@firework8140 League in SEA is as popular as Dota, cause I have way too many mfs who play League and still complain about it lol. But yeah that's exactly what I meant they combined MOBA toxicity and FPS.
13:56 I think the reason behind it is val has a lot more content creators making challenges and stuff like that (From my experience) csgo content creators just open chases and thats about it
The problem is that valve has not give a lot of content for cs2. There were so many fun modes in csgo also a lot of maps to play with friends on community servers. They just didnt include a lot of content (the update changed a lot of things)
@@noah-lf2mt do you also need your mom and dad present when you go online man/woman child? Do you need a bottle of milk and a bib? Do you need a golden star sheet for being a good kid to get the good child reward?
Idk about the Valorant voice chat being safer feeling. CS GO with all of its slurs feels way more comfortable to be in that the Valorant voice chats with the edating.
i really want valorant call out system in cs, like auto call out when seeing enemy, pinging anywhere in the map by opening the map and click, plan attacks by pings, and in smooth way, since csgo ping hitbox is shit, also picking up weapons with e and defusing, they all clunky, if cs has that, oof would been so awesome
Things I like about valorant as a cs player: - 128 tick servers - anti cheat - less toxicity (I'm not going to say a nicer community because the whole ara-ara/uwu shit is cringe af) - some qol things like asking for buys and different sound on every subsequent kill. - more transparent ranking system (CS2 might change this though) In every other aspect, I find cs to be superior in my taste.
I play Valorant a lot and I can say that these cringe players you talk about REALLY are less common than you think, almost never actually. But I've also played cs2, and I think the toxicity might be worse in Valorant, like I prefer being kicked from a game or being insulted in russian (which is quite funny tbh) than being trashtalked by my teammates during a whole game. Even tho I prefer Valorant this is the reason why playing in ranked is easier for me in cs
As my experience i was not planning to join any games like csgo or cod or this type of any realistic co op games, only sticking to story based casual games. Only thing that interested me in valorant is the colorful graphics. So, yeah i am a casual player. Don't have hate for any games, don't know why people don't like other games.
“I like game cause it has bright colours and lots of noise” you’re overstimulated brain can’t play something without it having bright colours and loud noises?
casual mode in cs2 is more casual than unrated or even swiftplay in val, you can join and leave in the middle of games so nobody cares, no elo, and it's 10v10 you should try
True, But Val is the same with the boosted except Boosting is bigger iin Val. I get so many games in Val where the players don't have a clue without their Boost dropping 40kills
The valorant community is definately more mature when comparing the two games. CS players are everywhere just saying "valorant bad". Really shows that they are insecure
@@xdragon4704 What? You ever play Valorant? You almost never see that, at least I have never seen in over the 300 or so hours that I have in Valorant and neither have my friends who have over 1K hour each.
Only thing I don’t agree with is maps, the maps in cs offer better gunfights and are less reliant on long range engagements, cs maps allow players to scale better and because everyone has the same utility, each choke can be won based on which team plays better utility, chokes in cs don’t rely on single agents like valorant which allows players to play more flex positions
"Because he gets an ara ara every 3k" is an invalid argument, you only ever meet these e-daters if you're in the lowest rank of the game, iron or in the 2 highest, immortal and radiant, in all other ranks there is pretty much a 0.01% chance to ever meet oen or two people that are genuinely doing that stereotypical stuff
that cringe shit doesnt exist when you actually play val, its more on the toxic high ego that fills the lobby. plus it also depends on the server youre in. play in HK or mumbai server in val and experience the peak toxicity worse than russians screaming on the mic. the cringe shit is just for content made by content creators. youd be surprised when a kid starts roasting everyone in a lobby than meeting with ecouples trust me ive seen it all.
I always get the understanding of like "Oh this skin is cheaper in Valorant" but like 1) the idea of "left over Valorant points so its only 40" is insane, its a predatory and explotative way to have your currency system in client only, you burn 50$ for a 40$ value, you give up 10$ for essentially nothing until you spend more. And I feel like any time these skin comparsions come up, they're so vehemently and intentionally daft about it--at least here he's about how its controversial but most people just ignore how geniuinely awesome it is that you can then sell your skin and move on. Is it expensive and still a lot to spend intially? Of course it is, but the feeling that you can then trade up, or sell these skins makes it an infinitely easier pill to swallow. Quitting the game doesn't mean you give up ur money, just your time.
for me it doesnt make any sense because people keep talking about the top knife skins. there are some cool looking gun skins that are even stattrak on the market for less than 1$. you can literaly just play the game, sell a case and get a cool skin. not everyone needs to have a knife skin to enjoy the game
The thing about CS skins and being able to sell them, gotta remember that just because you CAN sell doesn't mean you WILL sell. That cheapest knife with it's well-worn quality will sit in your inventory for almost forever because nobody will want to buy a worn skin knife
Well if you’re willing to take a bit of a loss you can always sell anything. The issue with valorant skins is that the pricing is clearly based off of cs skins, but without the ability to sell them. Yes people make comparisons with super expensive skins, but a lot of people forget the fact that you can get fairly high tier and nice skins for basically every weapon (other than knife) for cheaper than valorant. Most cs skins are not expensive, it’s only the extra high tier skins or skins with prestige that are.
@@andyyang1721 yes but it goes for valorant too. there are tons of cheap $7 bucks for skins. those $20 skins ARE the premium and i think that’s the point he’s trying to make. yes our cs go skins are values but good skins are simply WAY more expensive than the skins in valorant. heck even for $100, u could grab 5 skins premium skins. that’s less than a day of works and u obtain 5 s tier skins
sounds like the opposite tbh even after op said sometimes people just want something visually cool and dont care about being able to sell it, ohne went straight to the "YOU CANT SELL IT ITS TRASH CSGO SKINS BETTER" argument when op legit mentioned its for the people that dont care
nah honestly the point about community is true. been playing val for like 2 years maybe, and ofc there is sexism but never to the point where I dont want to play it anymore. As a woman im used to being insulted in games. When it comes to CS, I tried playing like a week ago or something idk, q one game and never came back. Im locked in fucking eastern europe and have to play with russians screaming into their mic. This game is unplayable. every 5 seconds there was a a fucking vote to kick someone. like wtf. Never coming back. Maybe if I find friends that would like to introduce me to this game but no way am I going alone lmao.
Have to respect the ohne chat for just being openly misogynistic when the women in cs question is brought up. Just self reporting that they have never spoken to a women in their entire lives lmao
CS players think of their skins like cryptobros think of their NFTs. They HAVE to cope, because the alternative is admitting to themselves they spent hundreds of dollars on pngs. The only way to walk back their mistake is to convince someone else to take their place.
It's a false stock market with no inherent value to back it up, no different than NFTs. The only reason people defend it is because they have skin in the game. If the ONLY thing determining the value of your assets is how much you can convince other people it's worth, because nothing about the assets themselves is worth what you paid for it, then OF COURSE you're going to cope and hype it to hell and back. You're locked in. Finding an even bigger sucker is your only way out.
Stop talking shit, certain skins are expensive because there are limited numbers, others are expensive because they are very beautiful and have high prestige, in the same way that you find skins for 3 thousand dollars, you find skins that are worth less than 3 dollars and that are elegant @@66maybe66
I can see his point on the community being more friendly in Valorant bc its more mainstream but that also means MORE KIDS and people who don’t get the fundamentals of FPS and tilt. The amount of games I had in Val where people loose confidence bc of miscomms or good enemies is astounding to me! Alot of FFs at 1-3 or 6-8 etc., like why are you playing the game???
Valorant skins packs are up to and around 100 dollars and for full upgrades it can get even more expensive and….. you can’t sell it again if you get sick of it.
i mean 100 dollars for up to 5 amazing skins one of which being a knife is more worth it tbh. and if you think your gonna get sick of it dont buy it simple, some people dont care about resel value they just want one skin that looks nice and will last them for the rest of the game
If you take a view of person who cant afford to buy skins or who doesn't want to buy skin even though i have money I think that valorant is great here 1) because you still get few skins and lots of stickers 2) Valorant is way more active 3) Abilities make you feel the the character your are playing so you are not just a Glove and gun 4) People are pretty chill, every 3rd 4th game you get mixed gender teammates i have almost 10-12 females in my friendlist soo that says game is very neutral for normal people 5) Sounds and Clean interface The sounds are very satisfying in lobby when you press any button sound is very relaxing and satisfying, The way anyone can change settings CS is soo complex soo much options 6) 2 cheaters in 3 years of valorant that too gets banned mid game The point when you only care about selling skins and buying just because you can sell them again Bro wtf who cares about it? People buy skins for Vandal and Phantom 1 skin enough rest you get in the match by playing better and picking up drop guns
Ohne's favourite argument is that you cant sell skins in valo. And what? Im not buying the skin to sell it, i bought it to play with. Valorant skins have different animations, kills effects, sounds, models and the highest price of single skin is 20$ 40$ if knife. In cs you have to spend 500$ to buy a fuckin default model with ugly pattern from pinterest, buy hey, you can sell it.
So good luck keeping that skin in your inventory when you get bored or when you fall in love with another, not to mention that you can make a profit from selling them, buy a skin at a lower price and wait to increase the value before selling it.
I mean he's 100% speaking facts. I don't even play Val but I definitely agree when he said that most of yall are elitists when it comes to comparing cs and val, ohne and his chat literally prove that shit. He definitely has a lot of nutcase and stupid opinions like the map pool one but other than that people are clearly just being biased.
From my experience people are normally toxic on CS but if you keep being nice at least one guy will acknowledge that and be nice too, could be different on higher ranks though I'm only gold.
Now there is one thing I will say about the Valorant vs CS community. Valorant one is better I will not lie because the cringe you see is rarely there in an actual match but in CS toxicity is almost there in every lobby... Valorant can be very very very cringe but its like 1 in a thousand. Also I gotta agree on the content creator side cuz there is like 3 people I watch for CS in the name of content. Ohne, Warowl and Nade King
the thing is the knives in cs doesnt have a guarantee to be sold people might not want to buy 700£ worth of pixels and you also have to pay for rank in cs which still doesnt fix the cheating issue lmao
Girls in valorant have a higher percentage of being nice, higher percentage of useful characters, and almost always have a mic and talk. I would never mind having 1 or multiple girls on the team. Idk why but they are better at valorant than any other game.
actually the most based streamer. Of course he has a slight bias towards his all time favorite game, but he invites opinions. I don't even play cs and I love Ohne's content
cs fans when people tell them they dont wanna be playing monopoly with skins and just actually enjoy a game with better skins, finishers, variety of gameplay, strategies and a much more relaxed fanbase. 😠😠
Imo the guy in the video is right. As a casual player you want to have visual appealing skins and Valorant does a great job at that. Yes it i s-40 Dollars but losing 5% value on a 600 Dollar knife is still 30 Dollars so you also lose money if you sell them back( ofc sone skins you make money).
If you google how value is determined you get "primarily by the demand for the object relative to supply in a perfectly competitive market." That describes cs skins perfectly.
@hitoday4474 They absolutely do have value. Just no inherent value. Food or shelter is inherently valuable to humans, because of survival. My love for Valo or CS skins isn't "inherent" to me as a human. That was the point I was trying to make.
@DogeMaster13 Absolutely. But it still isn't inherent value. Once the social appeal of them runs out, then they will no longer have value. In contrast, food, for example, has inherent value to humans. It was basically just a minor nitpick about semantics
the argument about price is hilarious. You could buy a full cs loadout for less than $10 and it would look better than the garbage in valorant. Only the extremely rare skins in cs cost that much and considering you can resell them, it's not that bad.
Ninja Dog doesn't iclude SFX and Finishers because he creates some ADHD content for children and his content is generally directed at an audience which is already informed about most or all of the gunskins and is just looking for an opinion based ranking of those.
the thing about valorant community is, that most of them know they will get banned if they say something sexist or racist in vc, while in cs people are just unhinged af lol. At the end just fking play what you want, atleast you aint playing the new CoD.
WOOOHOOOOOOOOO
why did you disable the comment?
@@firework8140 forces people to engage with other videos
enable the comments coward
@@firework8140because he's a CS player who did his best to find the most brain dead arguments to please both communities, but in the end knows he was talking gibberish for the sake of coming with 5 so he doesn't want to hear all the time how dumb each point was because he knows for sure and agrees
coward.
crazy how ohne's chat always spams "dies of cringe" yet is somehow able to answer every on of ohne's questions within 5 seconds
Well i mean they and I played the game for a while and then dropped it bcs it got boring asf. Or maybe just me, but you get the point.
Because most of them have played valorant, it’s only the valorant players that shit in Csgo without playing it
@@jozsefkovats7250csgo is so boring because no one communicates or talks about anything other than being a Russian 5 year old complaining that you "only" have a 70 percent headshot rate
@@lilmalus4285 That's just not true
@@lilmalus4285you’re kidding right? in every valorant or csgo tiktok comment section it’s always cs players flaming valorant
7:45 watch his chat immediately switch up as soon as ohne agrees with something lol actual fucking robots
Why so mad?
@@lilmalus4285 Not mad. I clearly put "lol", did I not?
yeah I find it funny how his chat can't have their own opinions, it's kinda like the opposite of xqc's but even they have their own opinions sometimes.
@@lilmalus4285one of the bot 😂
They are agreeing with the point of valorant having more women not what ohne said
The main problem in this valorant vs CSGO debate is that they seem to forget they are 2 different games skins for example why do you try to compare fantasy themed skins to more realisticly designed skins and the price, the price doesn't make a difference if i enjoy CSGO ill buy CSGO skins if i enjoy valorant ill buy valorant skins price is not the problem comparing 2 different things is
One is a product meant to be brought and the other's meant to be some sort of gambling investment.
Personally I'd take the one that's just got a reliable price point every day.
@@IoFoxdale again just buy the skin for whatever game you play doesn't matter what gimmicks they come with
I see your point. But I disagree. They are not comparing only what they look like. Most people find something they like in either game. It's the fact that if I want a good skin in cs, I need to have that money to spare, I think ohne forgets that. I myself have roughly 250-300€ in valorant and that includes 4 beautiful knifes. In CS I could barely by 1 good looking knife for my whole Val inventory. It's just not good for young people or those without the means
@@d4-yeet688 it's a video game man it's not that deep you don't have to have skins I play both games but I've bought skins in CS my inventory is worth about €30 and I have skins for most guns I haven't bought skins in valorant because I feel they are too expensive but it's fine it's not like I enjoy either game less because of cosmetics, so while CS knives may be expensive and valorant skins may be relatively cheaper they are not required to play the game these are skill based games not pay to win games
Because spending 300€ for skins you cant sell is a way better investment as a child or as someone without any money.@@d4-yeet688
Bro his chat are actual robots. One second they are calling him names but once Ohne said fair point they switch up so fast like bro do u have a personality?
People who think they will always be E-daters in a Valorant round just didnt played Valorant 💀never saw one of them
I've seen some over my 1k hours and i never fail to miss seeing a "i miss him" its not as much e daters as before but there still is some, i guess your just new to the game or idk. anyways csgo isnt fun either imo. theres no comms
Valorant is like the game i play the most and yes i see some "i miss her" or stuff but they dont talk or affect the Game in any negative way most of the time so i just let them be and sometimes these are just guys who make fun of these kind of people @@sfyner
@@arnebanane147 true
@@sfyner the "I miss her" is a meme name 90% of the time
i havent seen someone actually cringe edate giving ara ara's every
meanwhile sea servers has trucks ton of i miss her acc on leaderboard and all on them suspected using premium cheats.
Before Ohne's opinion: LOL WHAT??? HAHAHA LMAO WTF??????????????? WHAAAAAAAT?????
After Ohne's Opinion: Yeah. True. 100%. NGL I agree.
Bro saying Valorant players are “normal and well adjusted”💀
its true
it is lmao. never in my 1000 hours of playing have a met an uwu person
It's true, most uwu people are like muted and doesn't care what u say to them
@@Maxz_1w in my experience they are not normal
@@Maxz_1win the 3 years I’ve played, nah the community is far from normal
Been playing valorant for quite a while, only saw one e-dater couple. Its not as common as stereotypes as CS players think. Again, I also play CS and I do like it a little more, but each game is better at some qualities than the other.
then you haven't played swiftplay. It is actually like the stereotype in that shithole.
True but the one thing thats making me appreciate valorant way more is the lack of cheaters. I have been playing for 9 months through gold to high diamond 3, and never came across any blatant cheaters while cs 2 feels like going against s1mple every three matches.
yeah, smurfs though are horrendous. @@rileylynxleg6510
@@rileylynxleg6510 It's because Riot Vanguard is a way more strict anticheat than the CS ac.
I also think edaters are more prominent on US servers, (I’m an EU player) EU servers barely see them, or you’ll see then but I’ve found they either never talk, or they are just nice and not as ara ara cringe as those on EU servers. I also find there is less toxicity on EU servers(… Except Frankfurt, I avoid it like the plague).
I love how every time he brought up a genuine, well made and thought out point, the chat just went "SKIPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPP" or "CRINGE"
like, bruh, why tell him to watch a video about the good parts of valorant if you're just going to sit there and complain the whole time while meatriding cs. i genuinely think its interesting to see a different point of view instead of desperately clinging onto one game for eternity
the second he actually agrees with a point his chat immediately goes from shittalking to agreeing with him like he flipped a switch
i agree with your opinion. its always great to have an open mind. especially when they were the ones who recommended it. why not let people enjoy what they enjoy and be able to respect that? obviously you dont have to agree with every single thing but no need to be toxic about it.
the points were ass sooo
the video is called "5 Valorant Features That CSGO Fans Can Appreciate" but instead of just getting to the point most of the video was spent bitching about CS, but the whole video was written like an argumentative essay
This is the trait of Twitch chat in general. It's like thousands of people share a singular braincell
"genuine, well made and thought out point" can you quote one please?
i love when he says "valorant players have a life, jobs, kids and family" which can be true but we all know that the majority of valorant players can either be 12 old children which are screaming in their mics or be toxic people or no mics just in chat reply, which is really funny
same for cs go tho
@@NovaHouR31 yea fr
Its either kids or some russian guy saying slurs that has never been ever discovered after every death XD
@@asheronvalOr some angry guy from Poland if you Russian.
Can’t say I’ve experienced children or screaming in general in valorant, but I have in cs. Definitely true for the no mics tho
He's not completely wrong about the skins. The CS skins are way better, but it's ridiculous how easily you can spend $3000+ on a decent loadout. Yes, you can sell it if you want, but come on bro, not everybody has a liquid capital of $3000 for fucking skins because they want to look cool after hitting the AWP flick.
u can have a complete kit without gloves/knife for less than the cost of a valorant skin, no1 is forcing you to buy karambits
@@fagadafa but if someone wants a karambit and they dont have 500 dollars in liquid?
@@epstein_victim but if someone wants a ferrari and doesn't have 300k in liquid?
@@epstein_victim if u cant afford 500$ on a skin u can ressell ur wasting money if u buy a 50$ karambit that u can't resell
Dont forget the commision when you sell the skins.
As a CS player who went into Valo swearing id never buy those goofy ass skins I gotta say it took me a while to kill my superiority complex about skins or some shit but eventually they grow on you
CS players hating Val skins is definitely one of those things they're forcing themselves to hate, imagine thinking a skin that's a literal fucking Dragon that talks to you is lame. That's just CS players being bitter because everyone thinks Dragons are cool otherwise.
@@MoaciCnobody shitting on the skins. Only the fact that they are a money trap.
@@zeragingcookie That applies to both though?
@@MoaciC only for valo, in cs if buy a skin , that skin holds a value, and can be sold at profit or loss taking the market conditions in place, unlike valo where that is locked to your account
@stinkybombs2018 Why does that mean anything? If I wanna involve myself with holding and selling items with value I will do that in real -life not waste my time opening crates or scouring a digital marketplace for stuff that im just gonna gamble away anyways.
The part about ohne playing 3 games in a decade is fr💀😂😂😂
bro tried to sneak fracture in as a good map and thought we wouldn't notice
To be honest i on Asian server i really wanna hear Russian guy spitting facts.
you dont
Yeah, its still beter than chinese shit spinboting
@@theo3361yeah no way, they gave russians ability to use vc in valorant and its so bad every single game i que its just ruski ruski ruski 24/7 like do these people not know about discord??
@@theo3361you know what, me as an asian too wanted to gear russian spitting bars. especially aftet watching joispoi videos theyre fucking hilarious
about community.... it depends on the server. Idk why Val servers with SEA players are guaranteed to be toxic imo
When most people are toxic even the non toxic ones become toxic after a while www
I play in finland and i get russians on 90% of my games no joke and they never speak english so basically 0 communication
Riot managed to combined the worst of both worlds, League community's toxicity + CS community's toxicity from SEA yknow... Where everyone is toxic as shit. Basically think of CS but with MOBA level toxicity.
@@pupupuppuu League community toxicity as in league in general or SEA league toxicity. Cause I dont think LoL is that popular in SEA compared to DoTA ( garena yknow ). But regardless yeah SEA is toxic.
@@firework8140 League in SEA is as popular as Dota, cause I have way too many mfs who play League and still complain about it lol. But yeah that's exactly what I meant they combined MOBA toxicity and FPS.
The russians that scream (which i meet every 5 thousandth match) just make me laugh
It's because a lot of Russians play csgo. Cs 1.6 was so popular back then and csgo became classic.
@@artyomfomin5218 ik bro
My man said fracture was a goated map💀💀💀💀
Ohne's viewers and chat opinions regarding women was so disgusting, genuinely the most unfunny people on earth.
Are you going to cry?
@@Freefallendless Ad hominem, invalid response
@@bababooey7486 nah valid
@@dna1438 circular logic, repsonse invalid
@@bababooey7486 response was a joke therefore your response is invalid
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I think the reason behind it is val has a lot more content creators making challenges and stuff like that
(From my experience) csgo content creators just open chases and thats about it
The problem is that valve has not give a lot of content for cs2. There were so many fun modes in csgo also a lot of maps to play with friends on community servers. They just didnt include a lot of content (the update changed a lot of things)
i can actually use my mic in valorant without getting hatecrimed as often. still happens tho, but thats the only thing thats better and it barely is
Then learn to banter back
@@OHHHHUSBANTdumbass thing to say
Shut up your parents don't love you
@@OHHHHUSBANTor u learn how to act normal around women😐
@@noah-lf2mt do you also need your mom and dad present when you go online man/woman child?
Do you need a bottle of milk and a bib?
Do you need a golden star sheet for being a good kid to get the good child reward?
Idk about the Valorant voice chat being safer feeling. CS GO with all of its slurs feels way more comfortable to be in that the Valorant voice chats with the edating.
listening to slurs in dm on cs was much easier for me than hearing little kids talk constantly in unranked on val
I genuinely don’t know where everyone finds all these edaters, on eu gold/plat I literally never see them
@@embee965 yeah literally the only edaters ive seen on val were just intentionally being freaks pre match to get us to dodge
i really want valorant call out system in cs, like auto call out when seeing enemy, pinging anywhere in the map by opening the map and click, plan attacks by pings, and in smooth way, since csgo ping hitbox is shit, also picking up weapons with e and defusing, they all clunky,
if cs has that, oof would been so awesome
You can change the "e" tho
@@rabadonsdeathcap7418 what "e"?
7:54 everyone calling the dude making the videos a soy boy and other stuff then 5 seconds later when ohni agrees the entire chat goes to “true” XD
Things I like about valorant as a cs player:
- 128 tick servers
- anti cheat
- less toxicity (I'm not going to say a nicer community because the whole ara-ara/uwu shit is cringe af)
- some qol things like asking for buys and different sound on every subsequent kill.
- more transparent ranking system (CS2 might change this though)
In every other aspect, I find cs to be superior in my taste.
Bro I left CS
There was a cheater in every single game
When I use to get normal people the ranking would be messed up
@@imamangoo8632 get prime moron
I play Valorant a lot and I can say that these cringe players you talk about REALLY are less common than you think, almost never actually. But I've also played cs2, and I think the toxicity might be worse in Valorant, like I prefer being kicked from a game or being insulted in russian (which is quite funny tbh) than being trashtalked by my teammates during a whole game. Even tho I prefer Valorant this is the reason why playing in ranked is easier for me in cs
@@imamangoo8632non prime?
@@imamangoo8632 i rarely ever get cheaters in cs games and i have played in many different ranks
Valorant lobbies are nicer because half the people never fucking talk lol
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As my experience i was not planning to join any games like csgo or cod or this type of any realistic co op games, only sticking to story based casual games. Only thing that interested me in valorant is the colorful graphics. So, yeah i am a casual player. Don't have hate for any games, don't know why people don't like other games.
true everyone can just play what they want
“I like game cause it has bright colours and lots of noise” you’re overstimulated brain can’t play something without it having bright colours and loud noises?
casual mode in cs2 is more casual than unrated or even swiftplay in val, you can join and leave in the middle of games so nobody cares, no elo, and it's 10v10 you should try
@@reno239talking like the most expensive skins in CS isn't colour vomit and a decent loadout doesn't look like something they sell at Akihabara
The chat meatriding is crazy
80% of CS:GO games i play are either boosted accounts / russians
True, But Val is the same with the boosted except Boosting is bigger iin Val. I get so many games in Val where the players don't have a clue without their Boost dropping 40kills
he got bored of watching his own valorant clips and put minecraft and portal gameplay towards the end instead 💀
The valorant community is definately more mature when comparing the two games. CS players are everywhere just saying "valorant bad". Really shows that they are insecure
Ratio
LOL, mature you say?, i guess having daddy and mommy issues in val lobby is now common?.
@@xdragon4704 What? You ever play Valorant? You almost never see that, at least I have never seen in over the 300 or so hours that I have in Valorant and neither have my friends who have over 1K hour each.
Not really.
@@xdragon4704 it really isn't unless you play on US Swift play games (casual mode).
Ohne turned into xqc for a sec with the karambit price part
3:36 ohne turning in xQc from being so shocked
Love how he says "famous" people play valorant and proceeds to name no one
i have genuinely never met a valorant player in my life who would say all those maps he listed are good maps. they always hate at least one.
bro he’s talking about how famous people don’t really play csgo but i mean osama bin laden did, i don’t really know if that’s a good thing though.
he played cs source
@@shaansingh6048 cool
Only thing I don’t agree with is maps, the maps in cs offer better gunfights and are less reliant on long range engagements, cs maps allow players to scale better and because everyone has the same utility, each choke can be won based on which team plays better utility, chokes in cs don’t rely on single agents like valorant which allows players to play more flex positions
Its funny watching this now after hes gone and played valorant
"Because he gets an ara ara every 3k" is an invalid argument, you only ever meet these e-daters if you're in the lowest rank of the game, iron or in the 2 highest, immortal and radiant, in all other ranks there is pretty much a 0.01% chance to ever meet oen or two people that are genuinely doing that stereotypical stuff
Those are Iron people and if you are from CS you will atleast be silver most of the acts
true, i rarely saw some when i was silver but i haven't seen any in plat so far
that cringe shit doesnt exist when you actually play val, its more on the toxic high ego that fills the lobby. plus it also depends on the server youre in. play in HK or mumbai server in val and experience the peak toxicity worse than russians screaming on the mic. the cringe shit is just for content made by content creators. youd be surprised when a kid starts roasting everyone in a lobby than meeting with ecouples trust me ive seen it all.
I always get the understanding of like "Oh this skin is cheaper in Valorant" but like 1) the idea of "left over Valorant points so its only 40" is insane, its a predatory and explotative way to have your currency system in client only, you burn 50$ for a 40$ value, you give up 10$ for essentially nothing until you spend more. And I feel like any time these skin comparsions come up, they're so vehemently and intentionally daft about it--at least here he's about how its controversial but most people just ignore how geniuinely awesome it is that you can then sell your skin and move on. Is it expensive and still a lot to spend intially? Of course it is, but the feeling that you can then trade up, or sell these skins makes it an infinitely easier pill to swallow. Quitting the game doesn't mean you give up ur money, just your time.
for me it doesnt make any sense because people keep talking about the top knife skins. there are some cool looking gun skins that are even stattrak on the market for less than 1$. you can literaly just play the game, sell a case and get a cool skin. not everyone needs to have a knife skin to enjoy the game
Him saying esports in val is better is such an ignorant joke i cant 😂
Man, my windows just expired too, i was like "wtf?"
The thing about CS skins and being able to sell them, gotta remember that just because you CAN sell doesn't mean you WILL sell. That cheapest knife with it's well-worn quality will sit in your inventory for almost forever because nobody will want to buy a worn skin knife
Well if you’re willing to take a bit of a loss you can always sell anything. The issue with valorant skins is that the pricing is clearly based off of cs skins, but without the ability to sell them. Yes people make comparisons with super expensive skins, but a lot of people forget the fact that you can get fairly high tier and nice skins for basically every weapon (other than knife) for cheaper than valorant. Most cs skins are not expensive, it’s only the extra high tier skins or skins with prestige that are.
@@andyyang1721 yes but it goes for valorant too. there are tons of cheap $7 bucks for skins. those $20 skins ARE the premium and i think that’s the point he’s trying to make. yes our cs go skins are values but good skins are simply WAY more expensive than the skins in valorant. heck even for $100, u could grab 5 skins premium skins. that’s less than a day of works and u obtain 5 s tier skins
You can buy skins in CS for cents, beautiful skins that are worth like 0.5 dollars
5.40 bro sounds like a tarkov scav that just got shot in the leg 😂😂😂
I love how open minded ohne is compared to the kinda close-minded sounding sir in the video
sounds like the opposite tbh even after op said sometimes people just want something visually cool and dont care about being able to sell it, ohne went straight to the "YOU CANT SELL IT ITS TRASH CSGO SKINS BETTER" argument when op legit mentioned its for the people that dont care
the worst part of the video is when he said fracture is a good map
His chats really proving this man’s point
for ppl saying tiktok cheaters those are prerecorded footage since you can see older versions of maps or older versions of agents
3:42 i thought my pc crashed😂
I like this ''OhnePixel'' guy
nah honestly the point about community is true. been playing val for like 2 years maybe, and ofc there is sexism but never to the point where I dont want to play it anymore. As a woman im used to being insulted in games. When it comes to CS, I tried playing like a week ago or something idk, q one game and never came back. Im locked in fucking eastern europe and have to play with russians screaming into their mic. This game is unplayable. every 5 seconds there was a a fucking vote to kick someone. like wtf. Never coming back. Maybe if I find friends that would like to introduce me to this game but no way am I going alone lmao.
Have to respect the ohne chat for just being openly misogynistic when the women in cs question is brought up. Just self reporting that they have never spoken to a women in their entire lives lmao
"BuT yOuR bUrNiNg FoRtY dOlLaRs" bruh nobody is buying that Navaja knife from you
Idk man i sold mine within a day easy 80 bucks from like 6 cases i tried
How's your waifu
@@ibreathcheerios4294 you're either lying or the luckiest person in the world to sell an $80 knife in a day
CS players think of their skins like cryptobros think of their NFTs. They HAVE to cope, because the alternative is admitting to themselves they spent hundreds of dollars on pngs. The only way to walk back their mistake is to convince someone else to take their place.
@@66maybe66 womp womp
people that genuinely think that mmr is a worse system than a random rank up are delusional.
The CS skin system is just straight up gambling not more not less
It's a false stock market with no inherent value to back it up, no different than NFTs. The only reason people defend it is because they have skin in the game. If the ONLY thing determining the value of your assets is how much you can convince other people it's worth, because nothing about the assets themselves is worth what you paid for it, then OF COURSE you're going to cope and hype it to hell and back. You're locked in. Finding an even bigger sucker is your only way out.
@@66maybe66 No, their inherent value is that people like them. People are going to pay more for skins they like.
Stop talking shit, certain skins are expensive because there are limited numbers, others are expensive because they are very beautiful and have high prestige, in the same way that you find skins for 3 thousand dollars, you find skins that are worth less than 3 dollars and that are elegant @@66maybe66
honestly, ohne twitch chat are like so stupidly braindead. My head is actually hurting.
I can see his point on the community being more friendly in Valorant bc its more mainstream but that also means MORE KIDS and people who don’t get the fundamentals of FPS and tilt. The amount of games I had in Val where people loose confidence bc of miscomms or good enemies is astounding to me! Alot of FFs at 1-3 or 6-8 etc., like why are you playing the game???
Valorant skins packs are up to and around 100 dollars and for full upgrades it can get even more expensive and….. you can’t sell it again if you get sick of it.
i mean 100 dollars for up to 5 amazing skins one of which being a knife is more worth it tbh. and if you think your gonna get sick of it dont buy it simple, some people dont care about resel value they just want one skin that looks nice and will last them for the rest of the game
If you take a view of person who cant afford to buy skins or who doesn't want to buy skin even though i have money
I think that valorant is great here
1) because you still get few skins and lots of stickers
2) Valorant is way more active
3) Abilities make you feel the the character your are playing so you are not just a Glove and gun
4) People are pretty chill, every 3rd 4th game you get mixed gender teammates i have almost 10-12 females in my friendlist soo that says game is very neutral for normal people
5) Sounds and Clean interface
The sounds are very satisfying in lobby when you press any button sound is very relaxing and satisfying, The way anyone can change settings CS is soo complex soo much options
6) 2 cheaters in 3 years of valorant that too gets banned mid game
The point when you only care about selling skins and buying just because you can sell them again
Bro wtf who cares about it? People buy skins for Vandal and Phantom 1 skin enough rest you get in the match by playing better and picking up drop guns
that guy is the type of guy to say "rush mid"
Ohne's favourite argument is that you cant sell skins in valo. And what? Im not buying the skin to sell it, i bought it to play with. Valorant skins have different animations, kills effects, sounds, models and the highest price of single skin is 20$ 40$ if knife. In cs you have to spend 500$ to buy a fuckin default model with ugly pattern from pinterest, buy hey, you can sell it.
So good luck keeping that skin in your inventory when you get bored or when you fall in love with another, not to mention that you can make a profit from selling them, buy a skin at a lower price and wait to increase the value before selling it.
I mean he's 100% speaking facts. I don't even play Val but I definitely agree when he said that most of yall are elitists when it comes to comparing cs and val, ohne and his chat literally prove that shit. He definitely has a lot of nutcase and stupid opinions like the map pool one but other than that people are clearly just being biased.
1:46 bro thinks we want this in a game about terrorism and war💀
From my experience people are normally toxic on CS but if you keep being nice at least one guy will acknowledge that and be nice too, could be different on higher ranks though I'm only gold.
Now there is one thing I will say about the Valorant vs CS community.
Valorant one is better I will not lie because the cringe you see is rarely there in an actual match but in CS toxicity is almost there in every lobby... Valorant can be very very very cringe but its like 1 in a thousand.
Also I gotta agree on the content creator side cuz there is like 3 people I watch for CS in the name of content. Ohne, Warowl and Nade King
3:42 im buying the skin i dont really care about selling it later 😅
blud wants cs2 to be his valorant kindergarten
Bro thought hes him for going into Frankfurt lobbies 💀
People who say valorant is like oh they say ara ara but people never do anything like that people who say that hasnt even played valorant
i like that maps in valorant are randomly selected. it gives you chance to actually be familiar with every maps
Gross
pick & ban map system still better than random
@@YaromirMix if that’s your opinion.
if you want randomly selected maps then just queue for all maps tf
@@Silk0926 u obviously don’t play valorant tf
the thing is the knives in cs doesnt have a guarantee to be sold people might not want to buy 700£ worth of pixels and you also have to pay for rank in cs which still doesnt fix the cheating issue lmao
if you sell the knife for low enough than it will def sell, and the cheating isnt that bad just get into higher trust factor
9:40 Elon musk plays CS, they even set up like lan tournaments at space x
Valorant players are nicer cuz they get banned if they are toxic... as a player of both cs players are honestly nicer
Girls in valorant have a higher percentage of being nice, higher percentage of useful characters, and almost always have a mic and talk. I would never mind having 1 or multiple girls on the team. Idk why but they are better at valorant than any other game.
blud said valve was a shadier company than riot naaaauuuurrrr
actually the most based streamer. Of course he has a slight bias towards his all time favorite game, but he invites opinions. I don't even play cs and I love Ohne's content
wait what, why did he not say anything about the thumbnail picture? Thought he would freak out about that for sure
chat spams simp and the moment ohne agrees they say "true"
cs fans when people tell them they dont wanna be playing monopoly with skins and just actually enjoy a game with better skins, finishers, variety of gameplay, strategies and a much more relaxed fanbase. 😠😠
yeah, the map thing is annoying, eather you get the map u want or your stuck losing or hating playing the game for 30 minutes
Do valorant players think every skin is a FN scar pattern or something? I built my inventory with $50
Imo the guy in the video is right. As a casual player you want to have visual appealing skins and Valorant does a great job at that. Yes it i s-40 Dollars but losing 5% value on a 600 Dollar knife is still 30 Dollars so you also lose money if you sell them back( ofc sone skins you make money).
The whole point of valornat skins isn't to be some kind of investment. It's meant to be a funny cool skin that you like.
even though i play valorant more than cs, i would change to cs as my main comp game in heartbeat if they started "fixing" their cheater problem
"bbbbbb buht yiur boorning fawhty dollahs!" Makes me laugh every time.
Valve switches to root access anti cheat and ohne losing all his skins to some evil dev
i play valorant and i disagree with number 4 HARD. i hate not being able to choose
i would never bait ohne! :p
idk who made the "5 things cs players can appreciate about val" video but all i know is that they are absolutely delusional LMAO
1:00 "Valorant skins have no inherent value"
Neither do CS skins. The value is entirely dependent on what you can get others to pay.
If you google how value is determined you get "primarily by the demand for the object relative to supply in a perfectly competitive market." That describes cs skins perfectly.
@hitoday4474
They absolutely do have value. Just no inherent value.
Food or shelter is inherently valuable to humans, because of survival.
My love for Valo or CS skins isn't "inherent" to me as a human.
That was the point I was trying to make.
yeah, and people are willing to pay for what theyre worth, and have been for over 10 years
@DogeMaster13 Absolutely. But it still isn't inherent value. Once the social appeal of them runs out, then they will no longer have value.
In contrast, food, for example, has inherent value to humans. It was basically just a minor nitpick about semantics
@@cedricl.marquard6273 but in that case neither does money
lost all credibility when he said "valorant maps are good"
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They are good but not nessecarily better
BRO JUST SAID ICEBOX AND SPLIT ARE GOOD MAPS HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
the argument about price is hilarious. You could buy a full cs loadout for less than $10 and it would look better than the garbage in valorant. Only the extremely rare skins in cs cost that much and considering you can resell them, it's not that bad.
Bro doesnt know what he’s talking about
Ninja Dog doesn't iclude SFX and Finishers because he creates some ADHD content for children and his content is generally directed at an audience which is already informed about most or all of the gunskins and is just looking for an opinion based ranking of those.
A game its not a game if a russian starts yeling his lungs of while insulting ur whole race and family in giberish
CSGO skins enjoyers=crypto bros
The video was not even about 5 features, it was just an incredibly biased comparison video.
real
the thing about valorant community is, that most of them know they will get banned if they say something sexist or racist in vc, while in cs people are just unhinged af lol. At the end just fking play what you want, atleast you aint playing the new CoD.
He could have put in all 5 anticheat