How The Cthulhu Mythos Evolved Beyond Lovecraft

Поделиться
HTML-код
  • Опубликовано: 25 ноя 2024

Комментарии • 57

  • @HardlegLiterature
    @HardlegLiterature  3 года назад +6

    If you'd like to hear some of these stories, I've read several of them myself on Twitch and RUclips!
    Notebook Found In A Deserted House: ruclips.net/video/LSKBNfiafLk/видео.html
    The Hounds of Tindangle: ruclips.net/video/cJyFwbaUOu8/видео.html
    Jerusalem's Lot: www.twitch.tv/videos/1183578610
    Rising With Surtsey: www.twitch.tv/videos/1182720873
    Sticks: www.twitch.tv/videos/1181828189

  • @TheSimmr001
    @TheSimmr001 25 дней назад +1

    to anyone who wants to feel better about liking Lovecraft:
    "As a person of very retired life, I met very few different sorts of people in youth--and was therefore exceedingly narrow and provincial. Later on, when literary activities brought me into touch with widely diverse types by mail--Texans like Robert E. Howard, men in Australia, New Zealand, &c., Westerners, Southerners, Canadians, people in old England, and assorted kinds of folk nearer at hand--I found myself opened up to dozens of points of view which would otherwise never have occurred to me. My understanding and sympathies were enlarged, and many of my social, political, and economic views were modified as a consequence of increased knowledge. Only correspondence could have effected this broadening; for it would have been impossible to have visited all the regions and met all the various types involved, while books can never talk back or discuss."
    this was Lovecraft in 1937
    he was a different man when he died. he was NEVER not racist, and he kept many of his prejudices, but he was changing.

  • @themisfoko.5905
    @themisfoko.5905 Год назад +2

    I can sleep well at night now knowing the origin of the tindangler

  • @spacebar_google4650
    @spacebar_google4650 2 года назад +4

    Really cool episode to listen to and hearing MBT outside of a YGO context is always fun

  • @Quicksilvir
    @Quicksilvir 2 года назад +2

    Oh I freaking love Haunter of the Dark. I got introduced to it by a Manga adaption by Tanabe Gou and got hooked. My personal favorite just ahead of Color out of Space and I'm so glad to hear you covered it.

  • @ghostsisterspookydogwood4360
    @ghostsisterspookydogwood4360 3 года назад +7

    (Haven't read any of the stories) This was a fun. I was listening on my early morning walk. Its still dark out where I am with no people out, Halloween decoration out and random noises. I felt dread during the Notebook/ Dweller segments which I haven't felt in Halloween for a long time. Happy Halloween Everyone.

  • @spheremode3271
    @spheremode3271 3 года назад +8

    You guys are my favorite general media commentator Yugitubers, so this was a treat. I have a Lovecraft collection book that contains it, so I'll check out Haunter of the Dark in an hour or so.
    One problem I have with the Lovecraft Mythos: I think many of these entities have been adapted, parodied and used so much that their status as unknowable incomprehensible entities has been completely bastardized. Cthulhu especially; Cthulhu isn't an incomprehensible horror anymore, he's a pop-culture icon like Santa Claus. This is why I really prefer cosmic horror to not reference the Mythos at this point, and just do their own thing. Weirdly enough, it feels more in line with what Lovecraft was trying to do in the first place.

  • @foeller13
    @foeller13 3 года назад +2

    Man I could listen to you guys talk for ever

  • @Patty-Q
    @Patty-Q 3 года назад +15

    MBT is quite the entity.
    This came at just the perfect time as I'm at the airport waiting for a flight on Halloween.
    Edit: Holy heck, didn't realize Nyarlethotep was a main focus. It's common knowledge amongst those in the mythos that Nyarlethotep was Nikola Tesla along with an ancient pharoh

    • @HardlegLiterature
      @HardlegLiterature  3 года назад +2

      Nyarlethotep was Tesla?! I'm going to have to look into that.

    • @Patty-Q
      @Patty-Q 3 года назад +1

      @@HardlegLiterature That's what folks say Lovecraft believed or dreamed. I think it's even eluded to in the short story.

  • @WolfHreda
    @WolfHreda 3 года назад +1

    This is a great introduction to your channel for me. Can't wait to see more.

  • @LucyQTuwu
    @LucyQTuwu 3 года назад +2

    This really motivated me to start reading again, falling in love with your content on this channel.

  • @HardlegGaming
    @HardlegGaming 3 года назад +3

    If you're looking to hear some of these stories read out loud, There are links to them at the bottom of the description!

  • @demonkingsparda
    @demonkingsparda 3 года назад +5

    Y'know, I ve never given Tindangles the time of day, but no I kinda want to give them a try

    • @HardlegLiterature
      @HardlegLiterature  3 года назад +4

      Just avoid spheres and curves and you'll be fine

    • @demonkingsparda
      @demonkingsparda 3 года назад +1

      @@HardlegLiterature as for the story, I'd the hounds are infact just extradimansional animals, I wonder if it's possible to tame one. Who wouldn't want a non-Euclidean pupper?

  • @demonkingsparda
    @demonkingsparda 3 года назад +2

    Also, on the subject of shape-shifting, I saw in a dnd group this thing that said "the existence of the uncanny Valley, may be rooted in a primal fear of things that look human, but aren't". Food for thought

  • @calvingilliland6646
    @calvingilliland6646 3 года назад +1

    I dont know man octodads pretty scary but the culmination of conscious existence and unstoppable time get me real spooked!

  • @adsventuresome7511
    @adsventuresome7511 3 года назад +5

    That feeling of vastness may be what inspires cryptids and even transcendentalism. This great vast space of American wilderness. I also think that flashes of normal animals inspire feelings of fear- presences that are there breifly but are activly avoiding us. North America was very different not that long ago- basically just before the rise of civilization. It stands to reason that the human spirit would feel a sense of fear from that era, the neogene's old ghosts. Creatures long gone that should be here.

  • @phyzyks
    @phyzyks 3 года назад +2

    Just finished the whole thing, this podcast was really nice to listen to and relax to after I was wound up by football

  • @gergero7427
    @gergero7427 3 года назад +1

    A book series i always recommend is the Dresden files by jim butcher. Awesome stories! And yes the hounds of tindalos make an appearence in one of the books

    • @HardlegLiterature
      @HardlegLiterature  3 года назад

      We've ready some Butcher before. Still haven't done Dresden though. Maybe one of these days.

    • @gergero7427
      @gergero7427 3 года назад

      Yeah they're pretty quick reads and do an interesting twist on vampires, incubus, werewolves, bigfoot, Cthulu mythos, norse and greek gods. Ph and who can forget the zombie T-rex

  • @danyole
    @danyole 3 года назад +1

    This was a joy to listen to. I hope you keep making these, Hardleg. Glad you addressed the issues with the author and how it influenced the stories he told. Favorite part was the Trans-humanism discussion at the end-glad MBT was along for this one.

  • @tonirasic1728
    @tonirasic1728 3 года назад +1

    Hey hardleg, please so another reading of a short story, that was really cool.

    • @HardlegLiterature
      @HardlegLiterature  3 года назад

      There;s several listed in the description, if you want more to listen to.

  • @Harvey1997-
    @Harvey1997- 3 года назад +1

    I love Lovecraft's work but haven't found much from the extended mythos. Maybe that will change today! In any case, both you and MBT are my favorite content creators and media in general, so I'd watch a 2 hour video of you two having a staring contest with bad jokes between rounds.

  • @iduartecharlie7393
    @iduartecharlie7393 3 года назад +1

    Nice ending, i chuckled

  • @WMFranksworth
    @WMFranksworth 3 года назад +1

    Awesome!

  • @ab2aasd
    @ab2aasd 3 года назад

    1:08:20 Ah, Facts Concerning the Late Arthur Jermyn and His Family.
    Lovecraft's take of "what if my great grandpa fucked a monkey goddess". An enduring classic

  • @shamebegone
    @shamebegone 3 года назад +1

    This was a blast or should I say a spooooook

  • @ronintoadin9192
    @ronintoadin9192 3 года назад +2

    Also abys dweller is the dweller in the darkness

  • @IamMullet
    @IamMullet 3 года назад

    "We've been here far too long" Frankly, never long enough

    • @HardlegLiterature
      @HardlegLiterature  3 года назад +1

      The full recording time before edits was like 3 hours lol.

    • @IamMullet
      @IamMullet 3 года назад

      @@HardlegLiterature good

  • @cactusguy4363
    @cactusguy4363 3 года назад

    My favorite part about the halloween episodes is hearing MBT take it less and less seriously each year.

  • @ronintoadin9192
    @ronintoadin9192 3 года назад

    Also Lemuria is a Yugioh field spell for water also considered Umi!!!

  • @ronintoadin9192
    @ronintoadin9192 3 года назад +1

    MBT, if you're reading this, mad respect for the call out to sheep that just point out his racism in the 1930s. I mean come on it was the 30s. Thanks for not jumping on that bandwagon.

    • @HardlegLiterature
      @HardlegLiterature  3 года назад +3

      It's always important to find a balance. I don't think it's fair to malign all of Lovecraft's work is racist drivel, but it is important to acknowledged that he was racist (even in his time he was considered exceptionally bigoted) because it does bleed over into many of his works.

    • @ronintoadin9192
      @ronintoadin9192 3 года назад

      @@HardlegLiterature oh of course good sir. Just like every artist of any kind that tampers with equality and social justice, we must fully be aware.
      I'm just talking about completely dropping hp or other artists just because of it. He would've definitely had better content and probably an even more darker twist to reality had he probably used it against racism.

    • @MBTYuGiOh
      @MBTYuGiOh 3 года назад +2

      Oh no, the guy was mad racist. I just think there's value in reading and examining work by racists.

    • @ronintoadin9192
      @ronintoadin9192 3 года назад

      @@MBTYuGiOhwhat do y'all think of the show on HBO? Haven't watched it yet but I hear good things

  • @KuroeNezumi
    @KuroeNezumi 3 года назад

    ... wait, you two played world of horror on stream? Is there a VOD of it somewhere?
    Besides that, all the discussion is very very cool and I want to really read some of this.

  • @Anthintendo
    @Anthintendo 3 года назад

    I was really looking forward to a Clive Barker/Harlen Ellison episode.

  • @-clod-8948
    @-clod-8948 3 года назад

    can we get the 3 hour version :)

    • @HardlegLiterature
      @HardlegLiterature  3 года назад

      Trust me, you don't want it. Half the stuff that was cut was just MBT saying "Um", and the other half was long diatribes about Yugioh, which you could hear on his main channel.

    • @-clod-8948
      @-clod-8948 3 года назад

      @@HardlegLiterature that sounds amazing

  • @HalfTimeLazer
    @HalfTimeLazer 3 года назад +3

    I'll admit I'm not a huge fan of Ghooric Zone, while it's well written and some of its transhumanist themes are interesting the idea of the Lovecraftian horrors being something that humans or post-humans can understand just doesn't appeal to me. Having said that I have no idea how someone can read it and think it's the worst Mythos story, because there's some REAL stinkers written by Lovecraft and pals.

  • @cthulhluftagn3812
    @cthulhluftagn3812 Год назад

    I think the other reason we see nyrlathotep alot is that unlike all other lovecraft dieties hes ACTIVLEY antagonistic towards humanity.
    The other old ones dont even register we exists, but nyarly *enjoys* hurting us.. 10:21

  • @supervoltekka593
    @supervoltekka593 3 года назад

    Lovecraft wrote a poem about black people. The N-word was used about two dozen times.