I just saw the video. There is an easier way to get this. In the Global Settings there is a parameter regarding the impedance. The possible setzings are "First Block in the chain" or "First activated Block in the Chain". With the second setting you get exactly the result you want and don't have to program any parameter to a Footswitch.
Thanks Jason. Got caught by this impedance issue just the other day for the first time. So this video came just at the right time lol. Much appreciated.
Yes I know, I did a video about that feature. That feature was just added in firmware 3.0, this video was made before that. So at the time this video was made that could not be done.
In FW 3.0: Global Settings > Preferences > Auto Impedance determines how the Guitar In's impedance circuit behaves when Input > In-Z is set to "Auto." When set to "First Block" (the default, and how Helix has worked since the beginning), the impedance circuit reflects the impedance of the first block on Path 1A, regardless of whether it's enabled or bypassed. When set to "First Enabled," the impedance circuit reflects the impedance of the first enabled block on Path 1A.
@Jason - Thank you for this video. I think everyone needs to watch it. I ran into a similar problem with a Wah Block about a week ago on my HX Stomp. There was a Preset around 34 that had a Wah as the first block, and it was turned off. I had assumed that because it was off, that it wouldn't be affecting anything. I didn't think I was likely to use it, so I removed it. My tone changed radically - louder, clearer, and just better. I had no idea what might be going on until I just watched your video. I wonder if all the different Blocks, even when turned off, can potentially affect the Impedance Setting? It would be good to know. I also wonder if there are other locations, besides in front of the Amp Block , that they can affect the other Blocks downstream?
Manual setting , on/off fuzz, for input impedance is necessary also with last firmware 3.11? I have purchased your preset Band of Gipsy and input impedance for on/off fuzz is setting Auto . Why? Bye from Italy
I cannot yet do this interesting tips, Try other times. Question : the same tips is compatible with software Helix Native using hi-Z audio interface input?
What's the song at 11:55? I've heard it before, but I can't place it now. I want to say something by The Scorpions, but I might be way off base. Getting old sucks, lol.
Hi Jason. Thx for the videos. Helped me a lot trough my learning journey. Quick question, any reason why you choose this approach for the impedance instead of changing from “first” to “auto” in the preferences!? I achieved the same results. Bonus question: I have noticed when I was editing an existing preset to include the Fuzz Face in my stomp that it was not allowing me to use it due to DSP, but when I removed the modulations to free DSP and included the Fuzz I was able to return the modulations back without restriction!! Any idea why!? Is there a better order to create presets in order to not hit the DSP limit (like in this case)?
Why isn't the impedance requirements for effects, fuzz in particular, addressed automatically? If we are using a modeling system, why would the negative aspects of traditional gear be carried over or even be thought to be a feature? Maybe one parameter on every fuzz should be "auto impedance adjustment", and once selected, none of this assigning of switches and hoops jumping through, would be necessary. It just seems counter intuitive to a modern signal chain processor to introduce the worst/most challenging aspects of dealing with famous modeled effects
What are the pluses and minuses of putting the fuzz after the amp vs. before? I've seen some RUclips channels where the effects are almost after the amp. I know that with "real" effects pedals they are generally always input to the amp but that's the nice thing with the Helix is that you can place them anywhere you want.
This is great, Jason. Thank you! Are there any other models in Helix that have low impedance like this that would need to be addressed with this solution? I found a post in the Line 6 forums from years ago where someone had linked a spreadsheet, but it's no longer available.
Great video as always Jason. What about solely using the Variax VDI cable: There is no impedance then that you can control in the input block. How would you use the fuzz face under these conditions?
Can you list which Fuzzes in Helix need the 10k impedance? I'm guessing most of the tonebender models need it, but there are also modern pedals that model retro fuzz to a degree, so would they also need the low setting?
It would have been so easy for them to let you adjust the input impedance (to make the fuzz pedals work) on the Pod Go. You can´t even do it with the computer. Just because they want you also to buy a Helix!
I just saw the video. There is an easier way to get this. In the Global Settings there is a parameter regarding the impedance. The possible setzings are "First Block in the chain" or "First activated Block in the Chain". With the second setting you get exactly the result you want and don't have to program any parameter to a Footswitch.
That feature did not exist when this video was made.
What would be the deal if I put second enabled and there was a volume block before the fuzz?
MIND. BLOWN. I've been going crazy trying to figure out what was happening to my sounds. This video saved me.
Jason you truly are incredible
Thank you so much for the kind words :-)
@@JasonSadites You are welcome
Thanks Jason. Got caught by this impedance issue just the other day for the first time. So this video came just at the right time lol. Much appreciated.
Oh my god. This should be required viewing for HX users. Thank you so much.
Man, never thought of that..😲 Thanx Jason 😎
You can just go to preferences and set auto impedance to "first enabled" instead of "first block". That way it only goes to 10k when the fuzz is on ;)
Yes I know, I did a video about that feature. That feature was just added in firmware 3.0, this video was made before that. So at the time this video was made that could not be done.
In FW 3.0: Global Settings > Preferences > Auto Impedance determines how the Guitar In's impedance circuit behaves when Input > In-Z is set to "Auto." When set to "First Block" (the default, and how Helix has worked since the beginning), the impedance circuit reflects the impedance of the first block on Path 1A, regardless of whether it's enabled or bypassed. When set to "First Enabled," the impedance circuit reflects the impedance of the first enabled block on Path 1A.
Yes, I have a video about that very topic. This was made before that feature was available.
Great tips. I had no idea about all of this.
No wonder why my tone went crap, I added a fuzz late in the game with complete disregard for the impedance setting. Thank you Jason!
Thanks Jason - amazing as always - you da man !
You suddenly sounded English when you said ‘bugger up”. Welcome
Legend!
@Jason - Thank you for this video. I think everyone needs to watch it.
I ran into a similar problem with a Wah Block about a week ago on my HX Stomp. There was a Preset around 34 that had a Wah as the first block, and it was turned off. I had assumed that because it was off, that it wouldn't be affecting anything. I didn't think I was likely to use it, so I removed it. My tone changed radically - louder, clearer, and just better. I had no idea what might be going on until I just watched your video.
I wonder if all the different Blocks, even when turned off, can potentially affect the Impedance Setting? It would be good to know. I also wonder if there are other locations, besides in front of the Amp Block , that they can affect the other Blocks downstream?
great topic and what i need right now. thanks!!
Manual setting , on/off fuzz, for input impedance is necessary also with last firmware 3.11? I have purchased your preset Band of Gipsy and input impedance for on/off fuzz is setting Auto .
Why?
Bye from Italy
I NEEDED THIS!
I cannot yet do this interesting tips, Try other times.
Question : the same tips is compatible with software Helix Native using hi-Z audio interface input?
What's the song at 11:55? I've heard it before, but I can't place it now. I want to say something by The Scorpions, but I might be way off base. Getting old sucks, lol.
Fantastic!!
Do you always have an eq right before the amp and after?
Hi Jason. Thx for the videos. Helped me a lot trough my learning journey. Quick question, any reason why you choose this approach for the impedance instead of changing from “first” to “auto” in the preferences!? I achieved the same results. Bonus question: I have noticed when I was editing an existing preset to include the Fuzz Face in my stomp that it was not allowing me to use it due to DSP, but when I removed the modulations to free DSP and included the Fuzz I was able to return the modulations back without restriction!! Any idea why!? Is there a better order to create presets in order to not hit the DSP limit (like in this case)?
Why isn't the impedance requirements for effects, fuzz in particular, addressed automatically? If we are using a modeling system, why would the negative aspects of traditional gear be carried over or even be thought to be a feature? Maybe one parameter on every fuzz should be "auto impedance adjustment", and once selected, none of this assigning of switches and hoops jumping through, would be necessary. It just seems counter intuitive to a modern signal chain processor to introduce the worst/most challenging aspects of dealing with famous modeled effects
wow! and what about the pod go?
I learned something today
Great info! Wow
What are the pluses and minuses of putting the fuzz after the amp vs. before? I've seen some RUclips channels where the effects are almost after the amp. I know that with "real" effects pedals they are generally always input to the amp but that's the nice thing with the Helix is that you can place them anywhere you want.
I can't see your eq settings after the amp because of your little camera?
So with the new impedance feature in the version 3 did that fix this problem so when you bypass the Arbiter fuzz it sounds correct?
Jesus Christ Superstar at 11:54
Thank you for great video. can't you use a gain block before of the fuzz?
This is great, Jason. Thank you! Are there any other models in Helix that have low impedance like this that would need to be addressed with this solution? I found a post in the Line 6 forums from years ago where someone had linked a spreadsheet, but it's no longer available.
Nice sound
Great video as always Jason.
What about solely using the Variax VDI cable: There is no impedance then that you can control in the input block.
How would you use the fuzz face under these conditions?
You could put an EQ block in front of the fuzz and turn that on and off with the fuzz.
Must say. Iv never use the fuzz yet m8. But I think i will now tho. Cheers m8
is there a workaround for the hx effects
Can you list which Fuzzes in Helix need the 10k impedance? I'm guessing most of the tonebender models need it, but there are also modern pedals that model retro fuzz to a degree, so would they also need the low setting?
Jason, what monitors do you use at home?
Any idea on how to address something like this on a podgo port or helix native?
Wow. Thank you very much, Jason! How the hell did you find that settings out? So glad you did :)
so if you're using an always on compressor at the front of your chain, you should instead run it after the fuzz face?
It would have been so easy for them to let you adjust the input impedance (to make the fuzz pedals work) on the Pod Go. You can´t even do it with the computer. Just because they want you also to buy a Helix!
Does "Auto" behave differently when input is set to Line Level?
Is the real Dallas Arbiter silicon or germanium?
It’s germanium I’m pretty sure. I use it on all my clean patches.
@@UglyTheDuckling Yeah, I thought it was as well.
as an hxfx user this has always pissed me off as no impedence control
why no clean up?
@Ron Gillespie because its one of the most important uses of a fuzzface