Elisso Virsaladze Masterclass - Piano - Schumann: Carnaval op 9 - Reconnaissance
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- Masterclass with Professor Elisso Virsaladze in which they work the piece Reconnaissance from Schumann's Carnaval op 9. This masterclass took place in Santander during the Encounter of Music and Academy 2006.
Student: Qian Wu
Venue: Jesús de Monasterio Professional Conservatory of Music, Santander (Spain) 21/07/2006
R. Schumann: Carnaval, scènes mignonnes sur quatre notes, op 9 - XIV. Reconnaissance
Abstract:
Professor Virsaladze talks about the use of the pedal and the character of the left hand, as well as she explains how to play the syncopations as an accompaniment. Other aspects they work in this fragment are dynamics, tempo and articulation.
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Elisso Virsaladze is a standout musician and teacher. She is emotional in her communication and remains within what the music asks for. She is always on message.
Master class on the Carnaval, from probably the best Carnaval interpreter!
Check out Elisso's studio recording of the whole Schumann Carnival when she was in her 30s. It's here on RUclips. And incredible. She may not be a household name but she was one of the greatest.
Professor Virsaladze is an absolutely legend! Regardless of her lack of fluency in English, her love for music is contagious!!
Elisso is incredible but she is not very well-known in the United States. I don't play the piano but I am convinced that she is one of the greatest who ever lived. Top 50 anyway! I've heard her flawless Rach 3 and Beethoven 4 and her 2-hour long memorized recitals and they are absolutely spellbinding.
😮👏👏
@@polinalipp6139 Thank you
Elisso es un músico increíble! Un lujo para los excelentes alumnos de la Escuela! Bello extracto!
She's obviously a very good and strict teacher. That's the way they should be. What good is a "nice" teacher?? She knows this music like, literally, the back of her hand! Check out her performance of the whole Carnival on here, it's miraculous. It sounds like a Carnival.
I completely disagree, I think a teacher should be warm and encouraging whilst also providing constructive criticism. Or else the student will just end up traumatized and hating music.
@@m.a.3322 You are free to your opinions, but it's teachers like Elisso (who are concert artists themselves) who get results out of their students. Did you ever hear the expression "You have to be cruel to be kind"? Well, it doesn't mean you have to yell at the student or insult them but you have to be matter-of-fact. Yeah, you can be encouraging but come on, Classical music is a cutthroat world. If you're going to make a career out of it, you have to know how to play. If you can't, someone else will be right along behind you who can. The teachers I had who were any good at teaching were not "warm and fuzzy" with me. I don't care if the teacher is my buddy - I want them to tell me what I'm doing wrong. I'm much the better today as a musician because of it.
@@andresrozsa637 That's not a new debate. It existed a century ago. But in reality, it all depends on your goals. Are you studying to maximize your chances to make a living out of performance or is there something more than that ? At the very best the strict teacher will produce a remarkable performer student who suppressed his own personality and will live on to become a world class pianist in the absolute best of scenarios. Many will not, and will become frustrated and terrorize younger generation of aspiring pianist in their turn. But the true genius does not need a harsh strict teacher like her. If anything it will smother his/her genius. If you look at all composer pianists they never had strict teachers and if one was on their path they sent him/her to hell. Because it has to come from the inside not from someone else telling you how to realize their own projected way of playing. But of course geniuses are the rarity and almost everybody will be lost without a teacher.
Valentina Lisitza is a good example and talks about this, she was educated in the strict Russian piano school and rebelled, she drew more than one of those strict disciplinarian crazy teachers to madness who think it's their way or the highway. There has to be a certain amount of rigor but there is a too much, and the line is very thin.
The answer is yes this strict disciplinarian is a proven method to produce competition winners but it never produces legendary composer pianists, because it rips the personality of the young pianist early on and they become too dependent on being strongly directly and ordered.
@@ericastier1646 I wrote this post 2 years ago and I find it laughable when people come back with diatribes years later - obviously this all is not at the forefront of my brain right now haha. Anyway, I never said this was "a new debate" as you call it. Your thoughts are interesting though. Thanks for taking the time to write your "novella" reply.
@@andresrozsa637 What presumptuous reply. Don't assume people's word have anything to do with you . When i wrote this is not a new debate, that's a fact; it's got nothing to do with you. You responding by "i never said this was a new debate" is funny and pompous, the world doesn't gravitate around you, you know.
Next i didn't write specifically to you but to the general idea in that sub-thread.
Great Elisso!
Just listen to Prof. Virsaladze ... my god, that's the perfect sound and interpretation, and pathos for Schumann Carnaval. She is, yes, the best interpreter of Schumann piano music alive, in my book at least.
Your book missing Ueshida and Volodos and Andsnes and...and...and...
Great professor
So beautiful
4:56-4:59 ritardando for ritardando - this is what we are living for!
ქალბატონო ელისო. ქედს ვიხრი ...
4:11 Great rubato
Where can I watch full masterclass?
Escuela Superior de Música Reina Sofía
hace 4 minutos
Hello! At the moment we don't plan to upload the complete masterclass. But who knows? Maybe in several months we start to edit the most popular lessons again (Elisso is one of them). Thank you for the interest!
I’m also interested!
@@piotralexewicz-pianist7037 We're editing the complete lesson, available very soon
@ That’s awesome!! Thank you! Will you upload it on RUclips or your website?
@@piotralexewicz-pianist7037 On our website, but we'll put the link here. Thank you very much!
Моя звезда 🌟, Элисо😻
Жаль что ничего не понятно!
Omg what an old school, soviet approach to treat your students like this😢
And she herself probably wasn't educated in this manner, first by her grandma and then the other professors (who were probably very kind because of the grandma.) How otherwise could she have such a singing and beuatiful tone. phrase and musicality, if not raised very lovingly as a pianist. Discipline doesn't have to be cruel, not in this impatient manner. Not at all actually. I think the girl didn't understand a thing and she's stiff right because of this approach. Maybe her English makes her nervous (Eliso I mean).
ok, just watched the rest of the video. It's not that bad, just this very clip that was cut here captures kind of cruel/nervous vibe.
@@sgeriandaNo your perception is right, it matched mine exactly, in the first few minutes she is harsh in good old school style and demeaning to the student then it softens but the vibe remains the same. When i was young in the 1980's this was not an uncommon scene in any European music studio between teacher and student, not only Russia, and student coming out of their lesson crying was not uncommon. if you were a student with a teacher for at least one year, you saw that scene at least once, hopefully you were not in it. I saw it at least 3 times. This is the shock of old school versus new school.And yes, the student can quit, the teacher has a reputation and does not want to keep bad students. With my teacher i remember there was a probation of 3 months before she'd take you permanently. Out of 7 students, only 2 were acceptable including me but she still discouraged the other one to continue. It was no joke.
Actually I didn't see anything controversial here, just a normal masterclass. I think Virsaladze seemed polite, even though a bit unfocused, maybe because of limited time and language problems. The direct way of addressing problems is typical for Eastern European teaching. However, there are way worse masterclasses here on RUclips, with teachers from several countries in the world shouting and insulting students.
Ms. Virsaladze seems impatient and annoyed... I wonder if she really enjoys teaching, or just exposing his vision of pieces, without having to deal with the process students and anybody would have to complete, before conquering a piece....
Ms Virsaladze is a great pianist nevertheless impatient and annoyed. This is Moscow and Soviet Union approach to students. In western world students are human beings. Check out Aleksander Korsantia's master classes - huge difference in the attitude. Ms Virsaladze has a great talent but so what? Should she be irritated and rude to the students?
She is just georgian. Impressive and emotional. Controversial, l think she is very patient with technical but absentminded student.
@@user-lg9co3bp8uThis is hilarious, i think there is indeed a culture barrier happening here and the fact that the student has grown in a system that never flagged her absent mindedness playing, it's a tragedy that could not be avoided.
She is indeed very Soviet in her teaching style, which is not intended to accommodate but to shape, the way a grind stone sharpens a blade. That system has probably produced more great classical musicians than any other on earth, even if it is not the only one with legendary graduates (see the schools of Leschetizky and others).
Yep.. the girl never understood the meaning of “люфт» .. take a breath , comma .. whatever ! Just Stop playing like you are well wired robot!
actually and this is going to be controversial but it's typical of asian pianists. They are wired differently.