Buying Snap-On Tools is a $1,000,000 Mistake!
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- Опубликовано: 30 сен 2024
- Buying Snap-On Tools is a $1,000,000 Mistake! "Buy Once Cry Once" is the motto of every guy trying to justify why he just spent so much on his tools but is that the whole truth? Can you actually go broke from buying good tools? YES and in fact I'll show you how being a SnapOn fanboy is a $1,000,000 mistake.
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The main problem with Snap On is the inflated cost. There’s absolutely no way to justify the price other than you’re paying for the name. Yes there’s a difference in tools but they believe they’re 10X better than everything else and they’re just not. They break just the same as tools costing much less. They’re the Gucci of tools. A designer brand name and I’ll never pay what they ask.
Worked for a Caterpiller dealership as a welder/ machinist for 20 years. One day they had a water wagon in the shop and had a big NPT pipe fitting that had taken root. They broke a 2" Snapon impact socket that was checked out of tool room. One mechanic had a 2" Snapon combo wrench and with the help of a 6' cheater bar broke both the open and box end of that wrench. They came and ask me if I could weld a bar to it so they could slip their cheater bar to it. I said I had a 2" wrench and I'd try it first. They roared in laughter when I pulled out my Chinese wrench....the place suddenly went quite when I handed them the rusty old pipe fitting wiped my butt of a joke wrench a put back in my box and whistled my way back to the machine shop. True story and not the only one I could tell just like it. Snap off might be a better name.
thts only because the snap on wrench loosened it first 😨🤣🤣🤣 must have heard that a bunch of times im sure
wizard3z castor ...How did you know?😀LOL
@@leebarnhart9725 I had the same thing, I'm an engineer in the UK, working on any machine that you can think of, lots in the rubber industry and car manufacturers, any way a man lent me his snap on 10mm combo spanner as I needed 2 an only had one of mine as we were on a site job, I thought, I'll put his on the bolt and mine on the nut, as I was going to stand on the thing as in was close to the ground an I'm 6'2 an 24 stone, I pushed and bang, snapped the snap on ring right in half and the snap on guy would not warranty it because I abused it! I showed him the Chinese abuse spanner and he said that I was lying.
Michael Bamber Thanks for that reply. I didn't know that traveling medicine show was in the UK. Guess their running out of suckers here in the states and got to go rip you guys off now. Have a good one!
@@leebarnhart9725 oh yes, the vans of credit have been robbing kids here since 1965! Oh and are still doing so.
As a 30 year retired automotive technician I agree 100%. It would take to much room in the comments but nonetheless I’ll say it again you are 100% correct. Where were you when I was a young green horn I kick myself for not investing earlier in my career lol. Take Care
Dave Ramsey Said No Snapon and Spare Your Credit Score 🤓😀😊👍🏼
Dave is the man!
@@denoftools Right on! Dave and the Bear
Dave will having you drive a peace of junk just not Finance a vehicle.
Dave will have you living within your means instead of mortgaging your future for depreciating assets.
Dave went bankrupt ..... and screwed his clients .....
I hate, “buy once cry once” tools can hold their value pretty well. Buy what u can afford and upgrade as u can then sale the old tool or keep as a back up 👍🏼
Cry once? Most of these young guys cry every time they make a payment!
Lee Barnhart LMFAO! 😂
@@leebarnhart9725 That's because their wallets are made of onion leather...😂
It's all in the name, its like Snap On is basically the Louis Vuitton of tools. You have to own Snap On tools to be a "real mechanic", but that's all a load of crap.
If I called my mechanic a lois vutton he'd punch me in the face.
Not quite right NP70707, To be a real Mechanic you need to buy PROFESSIONAL tools. If a tech rolls into the shop with all HFT crap, he wont get time to do a job before he is out of there. Tools tell alot about the Tech. If they dont have "truck tools" its probably because they never worked in a shop before. Experience has taught me most of the cheaper sockets and wrenches arent made to the same tolerances, and can, and certainly will strip fasteners. Do i have some HFT stuff? absolutely. But its to alter for special tools. Just a thought or 2.
I beg to differ. Most of the tool truck brands outsource their manufacturing to China and Taiwan. A lot of their hand tools are made in the same factories as HF. Look up the HF Snap on jack law suit. I follow a page on Instagram called Tool Truck Rebrands, this guy hunts down the original products that Matco, Mac, and Snap On like to stamp their names on and jack up the price.
@@rodx5571 Hahahahahahhahahha. Auto guys crack me up!
@gothicman03 as a 20 year professional, I discovered that quality tools are a must for a professional. Again, if a you are a professional, you will have professional tools. If you aren't a professional, you just need to "get by" with the cheap stuff. No problem. If all someone has is cheap tools. They aren't very serious, or are new to the trade.
A fool and his money soon part. That's the definition of a Snap-On Fanboy. Sorry Snap-On Boys with your Toys, but all you're paying for is a name and trying to keep up with the guy in the stall next to you who is living in his beat down 1984 Honda Civic to pay his monthly bill. BUT!!!! He's got a killer Tool Box and Tool Collection that he'll NEVER recuperate his money on. Snap-On does not equal a sound investment choice. It's just a dang name and the quality has been tanking as the prices go up for well over 30 years. "But it only costs me $XXX.XX a month!!" My tools all make me money. Then don't cost me a dime waiting on their turn in hand. And the work I get done I get paid MORE for because of that fact. Zip~
I have a bunch of Snap on tools, Scanner, Oscilloscope, Digital torque wrenches, and many more other tools. yes, they were expensive. I recoup my money on them every time i do a job only I can do because i have the necessary tools to complete the job. Not all my tools are snap on. Over 20 years in trade and i have the same sockets and wrenches i started with, still working great. I regularly have to put a prybar on a wrench to break an oddly placed fastener and they dont strip. Call me a fanboy, but i make my choices based upon what works for me. I bought a BJP1 ball joint press, wow it was spendy. However all of the cups and adapters snap together, you dont need 4 hands to operate it. Snap on is the only company that makes one like that. Now as far as some quality slipping, i agree completely, I am not happy with some of the offerings. I have the NICD impact, had it 7 years, and just had to buy a battery. So i bought some of the new generation of impact LiiON, not worth the money. I switched to milwaukee and loving it. Dont condemn everything, some of the stuff is still second to none. However as you state, some stuff is just rebranded or overpriced crap.
'buy once, cry once' more like buy and cry every time you make a payment. The borrower is a slave to the lender. That being said, I would like a snap on 3/8 ratchet when it goes on sale for $80.
Honestly the cabinets at Harbor Freight are pretty nice. And way cheaper.
For the price fuck I'd rather have the harbor freight box
Had a few love them
Harbor Freight boxes have shit mechanisms. For slightly more you can get a decent box from Napa that's made by Homak, has pull drawers instead of HF's idiotic corner latch release
They are certainly getting better. i had one as a roust about, but junked it because i couldnt get drawer sliders for it when they fell apart. The metal work otherwise isnt bad.
@@ArmaSwiss Maybe as a " mechanic " you should learn how to take care of you tool box..
I went to HF and bought the Bauer Hyper Max 20v 1/2" drill driver [and xtra Batt.]! I would never considered until watching your reviews. My first cordless in 12 yrs . Had considered the Hercules,but since I am retired, in did not need to spent $30 more dollars,for a tool that will be used around the house. I like the soft case better than hard plastic case.
Your favorite HF FanGal here ..... Another Awesome Video! You Control the Den! You should do presentations like this in Tech Schools and VoTechs to pass on all this great info to the up and coming future mechanics and tradesmen of our future.
Lets start teaching Core Values like this again in schools and we all will be better off.
Always Shining .... in SW Florida.
Wish I could love this comment, I'm only allowed to like but it just doesn't do it justice.
That is a fabulous idea!
harbor freight is really coming on strong with the air and battery stuff... i have the stubby 1/2 air impact and its great
Yeah, that Earthquake stubby isn't made in China. It's made in Gemany by a maker of some pretty high end power tools. Ave took one apart at one point and was shocked at how high quality it was and he hates HF.
I agree a ton of companys have better prices in tools over snap on
I did it the mixed way. Started in 1977 with a small Craftsman toolbox filled with Craftsman and Companion tools.
Monthly I would use 5% of my earnings to buy either more tools or upgrade daily usage tools to Snap-on or Mac.
The tool guys knew that if it wasn't at a sale price, that I wouldn't buy it and they wouldn't get a commission.
Got out of the business in 1984 but because it was all cash sales, I was able to keep everything and still use my tools today including my Chicago Pneumatic air tools.
Nowadays everything is Harbor Freight.
Imagine paying over $500 for what amounts a shiny steel lever. Crazy!
I bought a 72” roll cab from Menards. I didn’t even wait for a sale and paid $1700 for it. I’ve compared it, inside and out, to Snap On, Matco and MAC, and the quality is just as good. I’m pretty sure if I peeled off the Mastercraft logo and glued on a Snap On or Matco badge, everyone would believe it.
Good Ol' government contracts pushed snap-on so high I would imagine. Its insane what the military and government contractors spend on snap-on/bluepoint and pelican brands.
And they generally pay higher than the going rate for them to boot.
Pay yourself FIRST!!! Perfect take away, played this for my son, nice someone else thinks the same way 👍
You can't beat the snap on screw drivers. Just can't, I am a helicopter mechanic (since 1992) and we take out lots of cross heads screws. Snap on will get out screws that where almost destroyed by any other brand of screw driver. The other snap on that is worth buying is the 1/4" 12 point sockets, everyone else is just too thick to fit in tights spots, and if you grind the cheap ones down, they break. The snap on 1/4 swivel 12 point sockets are also the best and worth spending the extra money.
Great video bear!
Snap on trucks are scumbags .....I had a broken 3/8 rachet years ago n the local snap on guy wouldn't warranty it.....you know why....I didn't buy it from him.....this all happened b4 the internet took off
He would have been pulling that rachet out of his fucking skull
No truer words where ever spoken. My Dad was a mechanic for 42 years at a Chevy dealership and only bought specialty Snap-on tools as needed. Your analysis is solid. Keep up the great work. Love your videos!
This was absolutely excellent, and right on..!! Young people need to realize just how critical it is to start saving for retirement immediately. The years will pass no matter what you do, and unless you have a long lost rich relative who dies and you inherit $1,000,000 ...after taxes...you will wake up one day and you will be facing retirement with very little in savings and you will kick yourself for not listening to those like Red who talked about the importance of 'paying yourself first'. Excellent, Red...Excellent..!!
No matter which brand of tools or boxes you have you'll take home the same paycheck as the guy making payments to the Snap on truck. Being the best mechanic in the shop comes from your brain not your wallet. This is advice from an old timer- take it or leave it.
Ah I don't Think so, The guy making payments will take home far less than the guy not making Snap On payments. The Old timer was not good with math.
" Being the best mechanic in the shop comes from your brain" I will agree to that!
your wallet is indicative to how well you use your brain when it comes to making tool purchases.
TheFalconJetDriver that is exactly what I said. They both take home the same check regardless of tool brand except the Snap off owner is spending his money on over priced tools and high interest rates. Read carefully. Jeez! Not that hard to understand. Hope you drive better than you read.
Damn Bear you can really use a calculator! Don't think wolves or coyotes can! And when are you going to gnaw on your Cubs head again? Thanks, good advice, good video! 😎
Hey this wolf can do math 1+1 -1 condom = 3. Hehehe
This was such a good video. 10:00 and that message about putting the delta saved in an IRA is such great advice. Hopefully people listen.
Back in the '90s early '90s. When I was actually working on cars I bought snap-on I bought Craftsman bought mac. I even bought some other tools from some other vendors, other companies. They had a lifetime warranty. Snap-on had a line of tools that they wouldn't warranty back in the 90s. I bought a lot of my tools from pawn shops snap-on then would warranty them today. I wouldn't buy a snap-on tool for nothing. No way I would buy a snap-on tool. I wouldn't buy a Mac tool or matco I don't know if I'd even buy a Craftsman anymore, but you can't find them in places, but I've heard you cannot take a Craftsman for that you bought from one store and take it to a different store and replace it. So I don't know if if that's true. I don't know that I'd even buy Craftsman. The quality of tools has increased so much and pretty much everything is made in China anyway The fact that I haven't broke a tool in over 20 years other than DeWalt. I don't think I would spend a whole bunch of money on tools
My oldest boy is thinking about becoming a mechanic. I told him don't buy snap-on go to harbor freight. Go to wherever you need to to find the tools that you need to but stay away from snap-on unless they have a specific tool you have got to have. Or they have a tool you need right that moment and they're at the shop. Otherwise just stay away from them. I told him I said do not buy on credit I said get harbor freight or some other company knew what you need to do. They're all good tools but he runs across people mechanics that are saying no. No, you have to have snap on tools or nobody will take you serious. You're not a real mechanic or they'll tell you you're not even a quality mechanic. If you don't have snap-on and anybody who says that is a downright Gucci fan, they want snap-on because it's snap on and they're not any better than any other tool company. 90% of the price of snap-on tools is name only. Not quality back in the 90s. When I was working on cars they were good. Craftsman were good Mac. We're good and Chinese tools. We had a running joke where I was at was yeah your Chinese tools had a lifetime warranty until you used it and they were also knuckle busters because you would bust your knuckles eventually when you used them but they had their use
the cabinets at hf most mechanics tell me is the castor seem to fail or weare at the bolts rivits if only there was a place you could get replacement castor wheels like asle 8 at hf replace them before you fill it up and should be fine from what i hear
I welded up a frame out of 1/4" 1 1/2" angle iron. Welded mounting plates and picked up some 1 ton semi soft casters and welded those to the plates. Put the box in the frame and it's stronger then before. My box is the older style before HF beefed up the bottom of the box. I did weld in some plate and angle on the inside of the box before I made the frame.
Now, I go back with my tools to the early '70's, and I couldn't afford the tool truck rates for tools, so I bought other US brands, SK, Williams, Craftsman, Bonney, Utica, New Britain, Allen, Easco and others. Snap On does have some items that are worth owning even with the price premium. And, techs who are enrolled in a recognized school program can by certain S/O products at a 40% discount. And, to be fair S/O products hold their value better and are easily sold used. By the lifetime warranty doesn't mean much if the company is out of business. Bonney, Utica, New Britain, Easco and Allen are long gone, but the fact I'm still able to use these tools (some over 45+ years old) shows quality is always remembered long after the price is forgotten....
Don't care one way or the other about Snap-On, but I will NEVER buy a Chinese.Taiwaneses/Asianese> tool if that tool is also available from a USA company and made in USA. Just won't do it. We've got to support the US factory workers so they won't have dollars to buy whatever you are making or selling. Do you think you're operating in your own little world? Disposable tools? No, not even the best salesman or spokesperson can convince me that adding more to our landfills is a great idea.
Over $800 for a cordless impact? Holy break away torque Batman!
That with a set of impact sockets are well over a grand. Maybe pneumatic tools are still a viable, economic option.
Wow, if I could save myself 1 Million bucks, I would buy 1 million tacos and give 3 to all my subscribers. Yea, only 3, sorry folks but the Bear takes his commission out of my taco haul for being my financial advisor. 😄 😅 😆
You're the hero we don't deserve!
Bruce allen just did a similar video. Bear is a little off on this math and responsing sound a bit like that bs artist dave ramsey. But the bear is right on the principal and reason not to buy all snap on. Shine on bear keep the snap on videos coming, they are screwing up the fan boys and i like it.
Snap on reminds me of rent a center w the pricing. By the time you finish payments you paid waaaayyyy more than what you should have for the item.
Don’t even get me started about a pack a day smoking habit and the future value of that wasted money...I’ve been preaching investment to anyone that would listen for the past 30 years. Some have listened and some haven’t. Kudos to you Bear for getting the idea out there on your channel.
Joe Smith is a hf mechanic
I thought you were going to talk about investing! Thanks for sharing, this is stuff they don't teach you in school! And you didn't even talk about the money lost in interest trying to pay off the snap on credit card!! 💳
Not everything you need to buy, needs to be name brand
had a tenant years ago that moved to florida ..he was a retired army helicopter mechanic..he gave me ALL his tools ..sk,snap on, matco and some craftsman....id say 5k worth of stuff...he said he wont be needing them anymore and knew i liked doing my own car repairs and said thanks for being a decent landlord...this was mid 2000s and not one problem with any of them and i have abused them.
Well yeah, free is a very good price for those. There's nothing wrong with Snap-on, Matco, etc, except the inflated prices they ask for them.
We are all in Bear University of Finance. I love it. Great stuff.
I was in US Navy and was assigned to a new submarine back in the 80's. The initial hand tool load-out for my electrical division was all Snap-On. Your tax dollars at work! But boy, they were nice to use.
We had mostly E-S Tools out of Austin Pa., about 30 miles from my house when I served aboard the USS Independence CV-62 from 1987-1990. Went to a bubble head base in Bangor Wa. outside Seattle for a oxy/acteline school for a week. Totally different Navy for sure the bubble head's are a little...idk... different lol
I was an AM3 in two different aviation squadrons from '02 to '07 and the majority of tools I had my hands on everyday were: Proto, S-K, and Wright. Come to think of it, I don't recall seeing a lot of tool truck brand tools on active duty, let alone Snap-On.
Great video, Bear!
Roth IRAs are the ticket. I know because my oldest brother was worth well over a million by 50.
Snap-OFF in my experience. Somebody gave me a small set of the wrenches and i have 2 left out of the set. the rest have broken on the 1st use and good luck getting a warranty replacement if you're a "back yard mechanic". Crapsman has been the same way for me. Kobalt, S&K or Pittsburgh pro have never broken. Love the MasterForce cordless impact gun from Menards.
Listening to Bears for anything other than advice on preventing forest fires is a $2,000,000 mistake. He talks about tools, but spends all his time stealing picnic baskets and has a best friend named Booboo! Does that sound like someone you want to take advice from? To take it a step farther, what if you need a SAE crescent wrench. HF tools are made in China, so they only have metric adjustable wrenches. Bet you never thought about that, did you? What about torque wrenches, everyone knows that the Chinese have smaller feet than Americans so their foot pounds will be smaller than ours! Now how smart are you silly Bear?
HA! Whatever Steve, if that is your real name!
The old traveling cure all medicine men also traveled from town to town and sold their over priced elixirs from a wagon and people spend their hard earned money on them. Some even claimed they worked the best.
Those elixirs were usually just whiskey. Many people got their drunk on during prohibition and in dry counties because of the so-called snake oil. LOL
Garou Wolfs Haven ....Before 1911 a lot of them were a blend of cheap whisky and cocaine. Of course you felt better! LOL
Whiskey mixed with heroin, cocaine and lemon grass.
It would be kinda nice to see an S-K Tools truck mixed in with the other trucks in my area. I'm not a tech, but I think techs here would at least appreciate another option. Just a thought. Good video, Bear. 👍
Great video, I agree 100%. I have a little bit of Snap On stuff, some SK, Proto, Cornwell, Mitutoyo, etc. But really most of my stuff is Husky, old Craftsman, and Harbor Freight.
I buy the cheapest thing that feels nice and solid and that philosophy has rarely let me down - haven't broken a tool in many years despite often using 3/8" drive stuff with a cheater bar because I'm too lazy to carry my bigger box around sites unless I have to :P
Flea markets and Craigslist can be awesome too, I bought a lot of stuff used.
And the other reason I love Husky tools (besides the cool doggo logo) is that I find myself working on a lot of really weird stuff. I used to spend weeks and thousands of dollars looking for weird tools.
Now I just get out the angle grinder and torch and hack up a wrench to do what I need in 5 minutes, and go buy a new one for $3 from Home Depot later.
My dad was an auto body man for 18 years ('69-87) all of my childhood. I remember him selling off his tools when he changed jobs, and accounting for inflation, your #s for cost of tools sound about right. I also remember back in 80s me & him at auotoparts shop with snap on driver and him praising their quality. Glad to hear others are catching up/ surpassing them for less $.
The only SnapOn tools I buy are the ratchets because I love them but other than that its a no for me dawg
I prefer their design too, but they lost the patent. autozone. duralast Is the same design
snapon stay home away from quick hands, duralast goes to work
I have a broken Snap On ratchet hanging up in my shop right now. I don't have a truck near me that I know of and any time I see one in town I didn't have it with me. I finally just hung it up as a reminder of how pointless a lifetime warranty can end up being. At one time they made really good tools but just like John Deere they're getting by on what's left of their name.
I'm from Iowa, don't even get me started about what they have done to JD.
This is the one thing that i must disagree with you on Mr. The Bear. Yes. Snap On is grossly over priced. But there's now why that anyone can deny the quality of Snap On versus everyone else.
Did not deny the quality. Denied that you need to spend that kind of money. SK, Proto, Milwaukee, HF there are alternative and there are pros every day getting the same job done and making the same paycheck but only spending half the money.
I bought one of those Horible Freight tool cabinets and it is far better than my Craftsman cabinet. And I think if I had to replace the Craftsman I would most likely get another HF.
As for tools, when I need a tool I first determine how often I will use it. If it is a tool that will be in my hand every day, five days a week, then I will spend some money on it. If I think I just need it for one specific job or maybe once a year. Then I check HF first.
Ive got a few Snap on tools, Why? Cause they make some things you cant get elsewhere, but for the most part for me it was Cornwell, or Matco, and the rest was from yardsales or pawn shops, served me quite well for the last 48 years
I went with the Kobalt line a year ago after my old DeWalt/Milwaukee batteries finally gave up the ghost.
I got the drill, 1/4in impact driver, and Big Blue, the 1/2in impact gun. Love it!!!! Hits hard, and the lil driver hit well also. Batteries are really good too. Warranty and battery price sold me. I use them every day now for over a year and never missed a beat. Just subbed up there Mr Bear. You explained it well After this video if people wanna throw away their money more power to them. Ive always tried to get the best tool for the least amount of money
In my twenties I did buy some snap-on tools at the time they were the most comfortable to use.
But I have a lot of proto la Craftsman and now some harbor freight impact sockets cuz they're so cheap.
This was a really interesting show I have to commend you on your work and your presentation and your entire concept it's really something a young guy should hear.
another fantastic video . as a 20 year old this definitely helps make better financial decesions. Most of the tools ive bought are kobalt and or habor freight. Have saved a good amount already!
Great job, Bear. By day I’m a financial advisor at one of the big banks. I can’t tell you how many clients I have that say they wish they would have started earlier. My clients who did start early are now enjoying retirement in their late 40s doing whatever the hell they want
I thought the toolbox said 895 not $8895. Jesus christ you can get a nice used vehicle for that.. Snapon is way overpriced and I don't see how anyone could justify it.. Sure theyre good quality but so are many other brands at a fraction of the price.
mixwell1983 ...Any tool box that costs that much shouldn't have casters under it, it should have a foundation and room enough to live in.
Just to add to the confusion: if you are to buy tools off a tool truck, always buy snap on!, its the only brand that has a value on the used market. case in point: as I'm retired from automotive work I been selling (my)tools on Ebay and such as I have no use for them, anything that says Snap on or blue point on it sells like hot cakes for at least %50-60 off the retail price, all the other brands like Matco and Cornwell (the worst) yah can't give them away, a friend of mine gave me a set of Cornwell ratcheting double flex wrench set to sell for him, he purchased it off the truck for $700+ last year, told him to keep it as there are plenty on Ebay for $120....what a rip off!
Joe koy ...second generation rip off. Didn't they do enough damage to your pocket book? Seriously, I'm glad your getting a good price for your original investment and recouping some of your costs. I've also seen them in a mixed box at garage and estate sales with all other brands, like wrenches for a buck apiece on a lucky day. LOL
Just buy only the common used items like ratchets and sockets. Everything else, augment with old US craftsman, HF or good used SK stuff.
Imagine if HF starts building small trucks or service vans.
But i also agree with you bear that sometime snap on has the best tool for what you are doing
Great video Bear! As a business owner (albeit in the tech industry) I agree completely about getting maximum value out of your resources. It's the law of diminishing returns. We see it with everything in all industries: guitars, cars, homes, etc. There is an intersection where the most value gained meets the least money invested. But people don't care about that.
People get way too caught up in the egotistical BS of things as opposed to the utility of them. Unfortunately, most people are unable to exercise the deferral of gratification and are always going to blow their money on flashy things instead of methodically building it through patience and humility. It's crazy how easy it is to make money if you're just patient, as you outlined. But people want everything now and they want to look better than the next person that is just as in debt as they are.
Exactly! Denying instant gratification is a fundamental aspect of financial growth.
Oh my, a talking Smokey The Bear Who works at Edward Jones Investments. The tool trucks let techs buy on time with weekly payments for some people it's the only way. The tool trucks you are also paying for the service of the salesman and the truck to come to you that cost money and is priced into the tool. You made the comment about the rolling tool cabinets are just boxed steel yes your right but of what quality. You can break into a Harbor Freight box in about 5 seconds with just a screwdriver. I bet you can not do that with a Snap-on box or a Mac/Proto Box
Stop drinking the Kool Aid. They are made out of sheet metal, not unicorns. ruclips.net/video/VndmOAzpa8s/видео.html
I don't drink Kool-Aid Smokey I live in the real world who in the hell carries sheet metal around like that when they are breaking into your garage. I posted breaking into the boxes with a screwdriver, not sheet metal. Every box can be broken into with enough time it just depends on the thief and the risk he is willing to take.
@@roywhitt There are dozens of videos on YT on how easy it is to break into a SO tools box and you are desperately holding onto the fact it wasn't a "screwdriver". You don't think there is metal like that, or a wire, or a flat edge in every shop out there. OH wait, you said "garage"! Why are you worried about the lock on a box in your own garage? Do you think they can break into your house but the box will stop them? REALLY?
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While I'm not a professional mechanic, I invested heavily in regular IRA and when Roth IRA's. The Bear is 100% correct. Oh, I retired at age 58. I can afford to buy health insurance too. Most of my money was in a Vanguard S+P 500 under fund. No, don't dip into it.
Why are you talkin about tool boxes when you should be talking about tools that make you money
Good question, here is a better question why is anyone paying that much for something that doesn't make them money?
@@denoftools there are tech with tool boxes they had for 30 years may have added to it. Can you name another consumer product that last that long?
Snap off is nothing but a status symbol. Gotta work like a slave to pay for the hefty price tag and have something to show for it.
Crap..... Where we're you twenty years ago??? ....... By the way I'm a 40 year old automotive technician and my 20 year purchases are three times your estimate.... And that's with a mixture of different brands.
I don't trust any of them...snap on matco mac Cornwell also milwaukee.. at most if you need commercial industrial size tool box for home use around $1000....like craftsman.
It's foolish to spend over 10-100k on tools.
It's branding..like slapping toyota logo on a Lexus or Chevrolet logo on a Gm truck.
Buy High Quality Mid Range Tools. You don't have to buy Gold Plated Tools. You do not have to buy Unknown Back Alley Chinese/Indian Source Unknown Tools for $2 a piece. Shoot for High Quality and always look for good buys. Buy cash. Do not finance. Do not become a slave of the tool truck pirates.
I agree fully. You could buy the HF box every 5 years and still save money. I would spend the most of my money on wrenches, sockets....basically hand tools only. Its definitely
worth the money for the best wrenches and sockets you can afford. With a mix of SnapOn level and lower end brands, you can build a high quality set up for a lot less. I wouldnt buy any high end battery, corded, or air tools. The technology changes to quickly. Stick with Makita level power tools. Makita is the most consistent with battery technology and quality. This is just MHO and experience over the last two decades. I have just about every brand. I do love the SnapOn stuff I have. But I also love most of the HF tools in my chests.
I have to say, the Earthquake XT impacts are a real gem in Harbor Freight's lineup. I've used them and seen AvE's disassembly of it and I'm confident that tool will last... And this is coming from somebody who's pretty down on Harbor Freight power tools in general. Harbor Freight's biggest problem (aside from hit and miss quality) is that they have too many cordless platforms. They need to consolidate it all under Hercules at the top, then Bauer for DIY and drop that awful Warrior lineup entirely... It's not even competitive with Black and Decker.
This is why you buy what you know you need and will get your money back out of having purchased said tool. Snap on ball joint press.. how many balljoints do you change? Bc that tool will have paid for itself within 4 jobs. Then you're set up to change ball joints and u joints fast for the rest of your life. And you'll never have to buy another one. Snap on ratchets... especially their indexing and little special applications ratchets.. they will save you a ton of time. I know jobs i've done if i didnt have those 2 ratchet i wouldnt have gotten the bolts out of the torque converter. 2012 nissan sentra. How many of those do you do? It depends on the person really. But going on there once a week and buying something you dont really need or whatever is stupid. And its addictive if ur not careful. Easy to rationalize.. "hell i already owe $7,000 to snap on whats another $500? Only get what you know will make you money.
I don’t turn wrenches for a living. However the mindset that Chinese is just as good or better is exactly the reason the US is in the position we are in today. Yeah call me stupid or whatever but I can still remember when United States steel was world class steel and made from metallurgical coal mined in Southern WV and SE KY. I further remember when appliances were made in America by American components with American workers. The same goes for NC garment workers. We as Americans have “penny pinched” ourselves out of jobs and given them to people willing to work for a lot less. The funny thing is the fact that foreign made products may be a little cheaper but if your a@@ ain’t working you still can’t afford them.
Nice finance comparison....it always blew me away, watching as i grew up when "men were men" and would wisecrak about silly women BITTEN by the fashion bug....then all of a sudden these "new" men became what was once joked about and bit into the same BS, Hook, Line and SINKER! ....especially worse with all the options available in today's market
I'm just a person who works on my vehicles, home, and anything else that arises. Snap-On would never deem to visit me and I have never been on a Snap-On truck, but I have been buying Snap-On Tools for decades. Back in 1992 Snap-On was closing a distribution facility and had an advertisement on the radio they were having a liquidation. It was on a nearby side street so I went by and bought a bunch of tools for half off, and list prices weren't so high back then. l am still using those tools to this day. When ebay showed up I was able to buy a lot of Snap-On Tools at reasonable prices (ebay prices are not as good today). My policy is near new I'll pay up to 25% of list or 40% if new. Many like new Snap-On tools can be had for 10-20% of list. At those prices Snap-On can be cheaper than Craftsman. Snap-On makes strong tools so I don't worry about the warranty. If a tool breaks, which hasn't happened, then I will write it off based on my savings. So my recommendation is to buy Snap-On Tools as long as you don't pay anywhere near the list price.
I will never buy another Snap On product I have been taken 3 times.
I had a Torque wrench from Snap on that had a glass that fogged up and you could not read the dial. The Snap On franchisee would not replace it, he said he had never seen one like that, the wrench had Snap on stamped in it. yes it was old but what does life time mean?
Another Snap On Crook,would visit the airport where I was flying out of. I approached him about needing a #2 phillips screw driver with a 16 inch shaft the same for a 1/8 Common screwdriver. $35.00 each, But I needed them to reach a screw that held Radios in the instrument Panel. Two weeks latter He brought me the screw drivers. 9 months latter the shafts started turning in the handle. New Snap On guy shows up (old guy sold his territory.)
I showed him the screw drivers and I said I need replacements, he looked them up said Snap On does not make a 16 inch shafted Screw Driver, He looked up the Part number on the Snap On Handle and said that handle was put on that Shaft by someone and he would not honor it.
I told him I bought it from the Snap On guy. he said prove it. what do you expect from an Asshole in NJ?
Well guess who got shafted and screwed? me! Never again will I buy a Snap On tool even used.
I sent this Video to my Son in Law he has bought over priced Tools and over priced Financing from the Snap on Thief in the Past. it is really not much different from Renting your TV, Computer, Furniture from a Rent a Center.
It is more about poor decisions and keeping up with the Jones'es
Thank you Red Bear this was a very good video.
Stahlwillie, Gurdung, SK, Cornwell and how about King Dick, all top quality German, American and English tools at a fraction of the price. All online with no middleman to gaff you. Snap-On's route sales model is going the way of the dinosaur. To many middlemen in a bloated system. Who needs Snap-On's revolving credit when anyone now-days can get a credit card and order online. Bye, bye Snap-On route salesman. I agree wit DaBear.
You know how some channels shill for specific manufacturers, take sponsorship's, make endorsements, and peddle their wares on an Amazon page? The Bear could start a new trend whereupon a company like Snap-On would be willing to pay him to *NOT* talk about their products. Especially when he's telling the truth about them.
Tend to agree with you. The main thing tool trucks offer that stores and online dealers like S & K don't is better service for their professional customers (ie come to one's place of work once or twice a week), instead of driving to a store or send a tool away and waiting a month or two for a warranty issue. The issue of course are the high prices & the high interest rates they charge. If one really need that kind of service, but don't want the tool truck price, look at the secondary tool brands (ie for Snap On that would be Williams, Blue Point, etc), same quality & service, lower price(ie around S & K). As a DYIer have enjoyed the old Craftsman(ie made in USA) that I have, though if I needed something new or were to upgrade think it would be a mix, though based on what it is. Hand tools thinking Husky, Tool Storage and some automotive tools like jacks, HF, etc. Think for most people any more it about, quality, service, and price. If it happens to be made here in the USA that is a bonus.
You could by the same tools made by the manufacturer that supplies snap off for a quarter of the price or pay for the name.
Down at a local copper foundry the maintenace guys are bringing in $90k a year each. Craftsman, Masterforce, Channelock, and proto are plenty good enough. Down at a local Ford dealer the walls are lined with Snap on, Mac, and Matco boxes. Blows my freaking mind!
I work for a railroad mechanical dept and the only Snap-on stuff we have is a few torque wrenches that are spares we don't use anymore and a 3000 ft lb 1 1/2" drive torque wrench used for the coupler bolts (~$6000). We do have 3 matco boxes full of stuff because they gave us the lowest bid. We do have some Pittsburgh Pro impact sockets floating around though, heck even the Cummins technicians that work here use Pittsburgh Pro sockets. We are just employees and the tools are provided to us though.
Eric O at South Main Auto used a HF Earthquake impact for roughly a year in his shop, it's lost a lot of torque over that time, and he sent it to AvE for a review. AvE just published the videos yesterday and today. The brushes are basically at the end of life, and somehow the rotor doesn't generate as strong a magnetic field anymore, so it's not as torquey as it was when it was new. It's hard to argue that they're "as good". Maybe a Milwaukee would do the same used in the same conditions? Maybe it wouldn't - haven't seen a test of one yet. Now, what do I have at home in the garage where I don't use it every day? An Earthquake, so I'm no Milwaukee fan boy or anything (don't actually own any Milwaukee as of now - mostly all Makita corded tools inherited from my dad, and they're all still going strong, and probably will be for a very long time.
Its not funny but I have the big Snap on cabnet If I could find someone that would buy it I would replace it with a U S General I have bought recently a 5 drawer tec cart and a 4 drawer tec cart becausE I am having a new home shop 40x60 for my own cars since retiring but I am with you the quality of H F has gotten so much better and my warenty sucks with snap on I did do 20 years in other peoples shops but the people that own the shops expect you to have all the over priced tools .
Dont know man, my home depot $600 (CAD) after 4 years is looking very good and i am a heavy duty mobile mechanic.
Out of curiosity went to see the 30k snap box and decided to make those money a down payment for a condo. But honestly every time i see a mechanic with snap on i normally dont thing good of him, it might change if I get to know him better.
Buying them used isn’t bad, I bought two Mac wrench sets 14pc, for $150 a set, they were hardly used, snap on breaker bar $80 , brand new. I shop ebay and Facebook everyday looking for good deals
I’m not a professional mechanic, but I have one Snap-on tool - a spark plug socket. I bought it because my inexpensive socket wouldn’t fit on a new car because of inadequate clearance. I knew theirs would fit so I had to have it.
Snap on sucks, was in the hospital in traction for two weeks which made my payment behind a couple weeks, he knew where I was we talked about it before I went in so there wouldn’t be a problem the payments at the time was twenty dollars a week so I was behind sixty dollars, so for some reason he goes into my box and takes two very expensive tools out of my box, one was a snap-on timing light which was very expensive but at the time you just had to have, my tab at the time was about three hundred dollars so he’s holding my tools for ransom. Didn’t know how much this guy hated me had no idea. So I get back to work we cuss up one side an down the other so if this ever happens to you you can have that ass hole arrested for breaking an entering, WISH I HAD DONE THAT! PEACE
Good analysis on the retirement. Tools and Automobiles ... add purchase of a used car or truck for $300 a month instead of a new $600 car and you now have two million in the retirement fund. Great advice pay yourself first and spend less on items that depreciate. Ideally pay cash for tools and automobiles. Only have a home mortgage payment because it appreciates over time. I do own a few 3/8 drive snap on metric socket sets and one ratchet but just about everything else is old craftsman or proto or channel lock. Gearwrench for any new ratchets, wrenches and sockets. Lots of Harbor Freight for items like breaker bar, Jack stand, scanners, battery chargers, tool boxes, etc.
Bought a Cornwell platinum box. Had it for about a month and a half. Yup. Handles are failing already. Any idea how meany issues I have had with any of my Snapon tools? 0 how about the other snap on box’s in my shop? 0
My combo is
-carlyle : sockets wrenches, torque wrenches
-Snap-on : ratchets, toolboxes, specially tools
really the only 2 brands i would use mass amounts from
I don't own one snap on tool only because I can't afford them. They are really nice tools I'll give them that but the price is just too high. I'd rather spend that money on my kids. I use Craftsman and anything else I can find at swap meets, garage sales or just lying on the street. And never had a problem with durability.
There rachets and sockets and wrenches are the Best and I have been to different shops, and it seems that I could always find a snap on truck, but Cornwell, matco and are hard to find in every shop, and my dealers have always taken care of of my broken tools, and I have seen mechanics make a big mess with cheap tool's and really stuggle to get basic jobs done. I serve the community around me very well, and snap on and Mac tools have served me very well, I do stick to air tools, I do have one electric screw gun that I use for dash work, and in the long run the cheap things do come out expensive over time, I do pay my self first, but I do budget for my tools, and between both snap on and Mac and eBay I spend about 9k this last year, and I am A die hard mechanic who has wreched for The last 40yrs and loved every minute of it!!
I won't defend Snap On in general but the pros of buying from them aren't just in quality, it's also customer service, warranty, convenience, status, as well as being offered a line of credit. That's not to say that you cannot find these positive attributes elsewhere, but when they roll right up to your workplace in a shiny white van it's hard to ignore.
This was a great video and you touched on a number of good points. Unfortunately most will not look at their tool purchases as an opportunity cost and single out the difference to specifically save for retirement. If a difference is even calculated it will probably just get glossed over and saved in general, or like a lot of guys it was never actually in the budget to buy the most expensive tool to begin with so there is no difference to be set aside, and even if there was it may be spent on something else.
Great idea and video. I really enjoyed this and I hope at least one young mechanic applies this spending / saving strategy to their tool career. Thanks for the video and cheers.
Not watching the video. Right now . but give me $1,000,000 and ill go spend it at Hardor Frieght tools and not spend one penny on snap on tools. Sorry im watch the Orville here in a few minutes. Lol
I was a snap on fanboy for over 20 years then when I got to where I didnt need to buy shit all the time they stopped coming around and now cant get the shit taken warranty without a hassle because I gotta ship in in or get a buddy to do it. I've spent well over 100k about 10k in a top and bottom box alone, add scanners, impacts, air ratchets, sockets ect. I love the lowes and that's a fact no questions asked boom
Snap-On takes advantage of the fact that when it comes to tools, men are suckers for designer names the same way that women are when it comes to clothing and accessories. As a result we will often pay more for less as long as something has that *name brand* cache .
"Oh look ... A Louis Vuitton tool belt. I bet my framing hammer will look sweet in that!"