US Armor & Cavalry Collection Update
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- Опубликовано: 28 сен 2024
- During a recent trip to Fort Benning, I took a detour to the Training Support Facility (Harmony Church), to catch up with Rob Cogan and see what's been going on with the collection.
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It really looks like they got the right man for the job with Rob.
He really does love what he does, you can see the excitement, and experience it when you talk to him.
@@libertycosworth8675 Enthusiasm has nothing to do with competence as a museum manager or conservator. Give me skill and training first & foremost any day. Given the horrible fvck up of a job their "conservation" of the Ferdinand was, I wouldn't trust them with arranging lunch.
@@iatsd Have you talked to Rob? I don't think so. Have you ever dealt with the Army's funding, hiring and acquisition process, have you ever guided the construction of a 100,000+ sqft, climate controlled building and renovation of another facility to become a restoration center? I seriously doubt it. And I believe the Ferdinand had been at Aberdeen, not Ft Knox or Benning, so that was pretty much outside of his control and authority. The Ferdinand also returned (at least initially) to Aberdeen after augmenting the Tank Museum's Tiger collection. Almost all of the history of the Ferdinand's state of conservation pre-dated Rob's joining the tiny group at Benning anyway, and the condition overall of the Ferdinand was related more to its lengthy storage outside, all of which, again was outside of the control of the tiny group at Benning. After The Tank Museum requested the Ferdinand, I thought it was pretty remarkable they were even able to make it moveable and get it cleaned up enough to display at all in the relatively short time available before it would be needed for display. I did get to see the Ferdinand at the Tank Museum in England, and it showed pretty well what it was intended to while displayed there. For the size of the team responsible for moving the U.S. Army Armor and Cavalry Collection forward, I think they are doing an excellent job.
@@libertycosworth8675 Have another go at reading what I actually wrote, septic.
I made *zero* comment about Rob directly. I was commenting to the idiot that was talking about enthusiasm. Yes, Rob *is* enthusiastic. And that enthusiasm has exactly fvck all to do with whether he can do his job well. As I said, skill and training are far more important for the roll he has. Enthusiasm is a bonus. I pointed to the Ferdinand as an *example* of what *enthusiasm, but without skill or training* can do to a vehicle whereby they "preserved it", but substantially fvcked it up as an artifact in the process. The video of it is (or was) available on YT. As a trained conservator, I fvcking near cried while watching those butchers fvck that vehicle up. I saw it at Bovington. Up close. I wanted to give those cvnts in the US that did that a swift kicking for the damage they did to it.
@@iatsd you did say Museum Manager - that is essentially the job of the curator. The insult is clearly implied - to deny that is what you meant further shows you are being a bit of a troll. If you want to blame anyone for the state of this collection, blame the politicians, Army Brass and bureaucrats who have alternately created impediments to maintaining the collection mandated unrealistic requirements and also forced neglect through administrative decisions. The USAF has been much more successful in their conservation of aircraft than any other entity which has established a museum, but there are a whole host of reasons why, part is leadership, part is volunteer availability, part is law and a significant part is funding and how the organization acquires the funding.
Rob Cogan is a retired Army officer, so he has the training and education to lead and manage this type of operation. His enthusiasm and vision gives him the drive to use that experience to do a good job of being curator. He also really cares about the outcome and has a goal in mind. These qualities, training, education, enthusiasm and drive are essential for a leader to weather the slow march of the bureaucracy of the Army and should enable him to accomplish significant progress in gradually renewing the U.S. Army National Armor and Cavalry Collection in his role as the curator. He will still need top cover from the appropriate Army officers and high ranking civilian leaders, and support from elected officials too.
I too watched the video of the rushed prep to get the Ferdinand ready to go to the Tank Museum. There wasn't time to do a restoration, and for you to become disjointed because of your perception of poor quality work does not take into consideration the associated circumstances. Plus if the Tank Museum had not requested the Ferdinand, even that level of work would not have been accomplished. It would still be sitting outside at Aberdeen rusting and weathering.
They had to get it mobile (sort of) and presentable to the public, most of whom will never know the difference. Nothing they did wrong, in the sense of even eventually restoring the Ferdinand, even possibly to running condition, is irreversible. It may slow the restoration, but with today's technology, with funding and labor provided, every part is reproducible. An average or even bad paint job can be removed and redone. Your anguish and anger is misplaced and without contextual significance or appreciation of scale.
Look at the Littlefield Panther after restoration, and also consider the thousands of man hours and tens of, or hundreds of thousands of dollars it took to reach that level. Most tank restorations are cosmetic and not fully functional, even if the vehicle runs and the weapon operates, they usually do not restore the tank with real hardened armor plate, but with mild steel. These vehicles will never be going into battle again, they are museum pieces. Heck, somebody in the past welded the TOG's tracks, and I guarantee getting them moving again is not a priority for the Tank Museum.
I took pictures of my children with all of the vehicles in the Tiger collection while the Ferdinand was on loan to the Tank Museum, so I too was able see all those vehicles up close. I was just glad my kids and I got to see them while we were there. We all knew that the only running vehicle was Tiger 131. It didn't matter at that time that the Ferdinand, both Tiger IIs, and the Massive Jagdtiger didn't run, and overall none of them were vastly "prettier" or more impressively conserved than the Ferdinand, except for Tiger 131.
It will take decades, millions of man hours and lots of funding to even scratch the surface of restoring this huge collection. They didn't even have a significant number of people volunteering or on the payroll, and just now are starting to build a core team to do the work that needs to be done. It has taken the Tank Museum decades to do what it has done with the combination of a paid staff as well as a cadre of skilled volunteers, and their experience has been mostly without the interruptions that have been associated with the U.S. collection (like the move from FT Knox to Benning) private collections like the former Littlefield collection are remarkable, but they typically have a group of experienced mechanics and conservators, and volunteers working on one project (mostly) at a time. The U.S. National Armor and Cavalry Collection had none of that until Len Dyer hired Rob.
"All my viewers have a security clearance" (12:58) Yes, we're all in The Chieftain's weekend warrior army as armchair historians with some form of rank and status.
Darn, my Secret clearance expired 25 years ago when I retired.
I just renewed my Security+... that counts right? I mean I'm going to have to run a bunch of my coworkers through Insider Threat training...
Hey I just did my annual traing. NOT TODAY!
He doesn't have viewers, he has an army.
I used to do support work at music festivals. We considered at one point getting t shirts printed with the word *Insecurity* . So, I'm out 😢
Time to get The_Chieftain into some coveralls and let him get about re-tensioning all the tracks. I'm sure he's the only person on the planet that can re-tension any tank from anywhere.
Now all we have to do is convince the chieftains wifey to let him camp out there for like a month maybe two. We his followers promise not to ask for anything else.
No we don't.
Just get him transferred there as instructor
This is so long over due, so many vehicles rotting outside for decades.
I was at the armor museum at Knox back about 1990.
All the great vehicles sitting outside rusting away!
@@jeffreymcfadden9403 ill take a tank
It looks like from the few images I've seen that the US Army has stepped up to protect it's collection. Top work for Mister Cogan and the staff of the museum. One question, with the USMC retiring their M1A1 Fleet, would the Museum be getting one with the full Marine Kit Out to show the difference between the US Army M1A1 and the USMC M1A1?
That would really be a good thing to have as a museum.
7-10k soldiers a year? Goodness that's like a week of a medium size museum's attendance figures. It really must go public.
All it needs is the right people to say the right things.
There are dozens of museums already on active military bases.
This is the 3rd best collection of armored vehicles in the world, after all
@@vitoscaletta7151 Are the first and second Bovington and Kubinka?
Additionally, these places can both support themselves with public funding and will work as a recruitment advocate to the general public. Its mind boggling as to why this place isn't opened up.
@@A.J.K87 Oh yes. And those are full on museums, thankfully
@@dylanmilne6683 Yeah, the National Air Force Museum in Dayton operates on recruitment funds and suevenier sales alone. There is no entrance fee last I checked.
I live about 3 hours from Benning. I'm so damn excited!!!!
i'm a little over 2 hours away. been to the infantry museum at Benning several years ago and heard they moved the tanks an were going to start what was lauded as the Cavalry Museum... so... they need to open this to public !!!
Same here- I’m hoping at some point I can see this incredible collection in person. I had the opportunity to attend one of their open house event and saw just a fraction of the collection- it was wonderful and informative.
Regrettably I am in Australia and we can’t leave without Government approval!
When a guy says, "it makes me tear up sometimes......", You have chosen a museum curator wisely. Best of luck to the new facility.
I like how when you start it’s all American tanks and this one Churchill is photobombing
Its the world's most famous photobombing Churchill it's eather a 3 or 7 Churchill hard to say lol
Having met Rob Cogan in person, I can confirm he is as energetic and enthusiastic as he appears on video. Godspeed, sir!
And there'll be a new, hopefully much better quality, T28 shirt for you next time you have an open house.
I NEED to get here to see this when completed!!
Can't wait to see this collection at Ft. Benning. We took the boys to see the collection at Ft. Knox the year before it got shipped away to sit in storage seemingly forever! Now my oldest is driving an Abrams; did his basic at Ft. Benning last year. Go Raiders 1st ABCT!
I can't wait to see you do a Chieftain's hatch on the T28/T95.
Probably not
We talked about that briefly. Definitely a possibility. T28 is actually pretty decent looking inside.
@@robertcogan7109 I figured from Sofilein's earlier videos from inside that it was now a real possibility hence why I asked. Thanks for the answer!
Rob said getting "new" tanks in, some from Anniston Army Depot etc....there is a Jagdpanther at Anniston.....I am PRAYING they bring it to Ft. Benning.
It's on the list of items slated to come to us, the Nashorn as well.
@@robertcogan7109 I did not know there was a Nashorn there. With the arrival of the Jagdpanther, would the Collection house the entire Panzer family and variants? (Barring the Maus of course)
@@monkeyboy48391 besides plenty of sub-variants, we will unfortunately be missing a Panzer I in the collection. But we will have Panzer II, III, IV, four different Panthers, 3 types of Tigers, a StuG, a StuH, two Marder III, and a Jagdpanzer IV.
@@robertcogan7109 Isn't there a Panzer 1 at Ft. Lee? Couldn't you aquire it like the Jagdpanther?
@@monkeyboy48391 the Jagdpanther went from Aberdeen Proving Grounds to the Army's historical holding area at Anniston Army Depot, Alabama, so it is available to come to us and will. The Panzer 1 was selected to be kept by the Ordnance Collection, so unless they would offer it up its not available to us.
Saw the genesis of this back in 2013 while going through OSUT as a 19D. Good to see it’s finally up.
AFVID training is important to all soldiers especially for Tankers, Scouts, and Infantry. I went for my reunion at Ft. Benning 3 years ago at the Airborne School but went to Harmony Church. Harmony Church was once the home of the 2nd Infantry Training Brigade back in the mid 1980s and I went through Infantry Basic and AIT there. I think where the Armor Museum is on is where our PT field used to be. Brings tears to my eyes with fond memories of what I went through in Harmony Church...
Exciting stuff, even if I don't get to go there anytime soon I'm glad all these pieces are getting the care they deserve. As someone who grew up near bases with museum facilities (eglin/hulburt AFB/field and NAS Pensacola) I've always appreciated their existence
Thx God finally we will be able to see the former Aberdeen vehicles. Missed them so much. Now how do I find out and sign up for open house dates. I stand corrected I guess I have to use social media.
Unfortunately this isn't that collection. I was just looking at their Facebook site and this is mostly the Fort Knox collection. They have some of the Aberdeen stuff but not a lot. From what I know that went to Fort Lee during the base closures about a decade ago.
@@WayneMoyer too bad
19:25 "Hey, Jim? Have you seen the T29?"
"Uhhhhh, uh oh..."
Excellent news. Nice to see a collection being taken care of beyond the usual minimal standard.
one of the best curators going.
Thanks mate!
You have to love the Yanks. Visits Bovington and a noisy around. Returns Stateside and builds Bovington as if it was imagined by an American. Bigger, louder and with much more Dakka. "Yes looks great. Now put a machine gun on it."
Except it's smaller and quieter.
This now should be open to public visits..
It is grand to hear that the collection is/will be under cover. It is a sin that the public does not have access as it did at Ft. Knox. It is a humbug that Armor had to leave its true and traditional home at Fort Knox.
@EagleKeeper1916 So was Fort Knox, bozo.
It's good to see the collection stored properly indoors instead of exposed to the weather and rotting away.
Had clearance, so just go ahead and tell me. As far as funding, perhaps the museum should open individual(per tank) Patreon or gofundme accounts. To the end of letting the public have some input as to which tanks see further restoration.
This was one of those videos that, when it ended, I realized I was sporting a big goofy grin throughout.
Awesome! Best wishes to the people doing that good and important work, our faith is in great hands.
Looks like they have the right man for the job there. Thanks for a very informative video.
Love the video! Just wished that I could see it in person. My friend, who is a Vietnam vet,would also love to see it. Our combined goal is to one day own a tank of some kind.
That opening shot is just glorious. A T28, a T20, a T29, and what I can assume is either another T29 or a T30. Amazing.
EDIT: Holy crap they got the T69? And are planning to get the T54E1? Bless these guys for securing these unique pieces of armored warfare history
The T54E1 is slated to come to us, no arrival time set though :/
I’m pretty sure they have all the US wartime heavies.
They will need an additional hall to house the Bolos.
Depending on what mark, theyre gonna need an additional hall for each individual Bolo
That's on next years budget request...
The halls are inside the Bolos, duh!
When will it open to the public? With such a large collection, I can imagine it's going to be the Bovington in the USA.
Fantastic the way it's being used as a living, breathing resource to be actively (and enthusiastically) engaged with. The quick allusions re: how to work the system for funding were good too.
I had visited the APG collection numerous times over the decades. It pained me to see so many historically valuable vehicles slowly decompose in the MD sun and humidity. But, now that the collection has been scattered to the four winds, I am sad that they will never again to viewable by the public.
Wow I hope so much that after I get my spinal stimulator implant surgery this summer and I can walk again without too much pain that I will be able to see this magnificent collection. Even if I had to try to schedule a visit I would love my first big walking experience be to see a museum like this or maybe to go to tank fest.
Hope to be able to visit this in the future. Grew up in Louisville in the 70s and visited the Fort Knox Patton Museum several times a year with family or school field trips. It would be so nice to see the tanks I climbed around on as kid. I have many photos from that time.
Was nice getting a tour while I was with C Trp 2-15. The abrams is there now
Fantastic collection!
A massively expensive building, but it could pay for itself in one hit if prevents one bad R&D project. :o)
That's exactly how I like to think about it!
1 bad R and D project brings food on the table for at least a 100 or more people working on it.
RnD people: sucking down budget percents since….long ago
The_chieftain: film us talking about tanks
Everybody: show more of the tanks!!!
Suggestion for signage, include QR codes which link to more in depth information. Toured CV-16 Lexington last week and the inclusion of those codes was immensely enjoyable.
@EagleKeeper1916 How does one preclude the other?
Awesome Collection of Metallic Historical Artifacts
Excellent video, Thanks.
Thanks so much for these episodes, a fascinating interview with a great guy.
Model makers watching this.... Have you considered turning your various kits into a "museum".
Model makers and museums both have a collection, Stands to reason a model musem complete with miniature description plates would be kinda fitting. A recreation of Bovington perhaps?
Bonus points if you make a model gift shop containing model models. Yes space/area would probably be a promblem.
awesome stuff what a building
NICE TOO SEE SOME COLLABORATION KEEP UP THIS GOOD WORK 💪.
I would like to see more insides of the tanks, like before
As a kid in 1979 or 80 I visited Aberdeen twice. I know now it wasn't a great way to preserve the vehicles but for a bunch of 10 year old Cub Scouts to be able to run around and I think even climb onto the tanks it was about as good as it gets.
Churchill in the photo bomb position in the back. 😅
I remember spending quite a few days walking around the Patton museum at Ft. Knox when I was stationed there been to the old museum at Ft Benning a few times and Ft. Lewis one. Now I wonder what happened to or with the Wursburg US Army museum in Germany. I was infantry but always loved to see and learn the history. I'll have to keep checking on some time to go check it out Ft Benning more.
It's good to see that they are inside and protected from the elements now. There are a lot of tanks sitting around in various public parks and outside of VFW and American Legion halls here in the Midwest. It's kind of sad to see them rusting away.
Looks like a beautiful, indoor facility! For decades the US Army leadership left OUR historic tanks out in the weather where they rusted like worthless scrap. Good to see that behavior has changed.
Very upsetting it isn’t open to the public.
I want to know how many of these beauties are fully operational…
i am so glad these precious pieces of history are proper housed
Amazing collection.
Wish I could go see it...
Glad to see some of the tanks i saw at Knox and APG are being brought to a bigger facility
Ohhhhhhh man, I'm already excited! Bring on the tanks!
Nice. Those tanks deserve to be properly cared for.
Interesting discussion! Have often wondered how we could fight a war if all the tech wonder machines BROKE IN COMBAT! I liked the analogy of using the WWII tank gunner to show the current current tank gunner how to go into manual mode. Sometimes old is not really outmoded! Would love to see that new museum! But alas age has overtaken me and the is little chance I could make the detour with my wife on a trip from Atlanta to Mobile to visit our daughter.😊🇺🇸
This really is excellent, wish them the best.
hope to visit one day. amazing collection.
A building full of a sea of legacy OD green. Nothing is more beautiful!
The only issue I have -- and it may not be accurate, given that we don't get much of a view of the vehicles -- is that it appears to all be the *same* OD green, not the all the variations that we saw from pre-war to Vietnam.
@@seanmalloy7249 we have vehicles in Pre-WWI shade (though I'm not 100% satisfied its accurate), WWII OD Shade 8, Post-WWII/Korea Semi-Gloss OD, Vietnam era dark OD, to the NATO Green.
I think it is great that they are indoors. I remember going to Aberdeen in the 90s when the public could and being dismayed at the rust and neglect on some of the older tanks. It was sad when it closed and the old vehicles disappeared to other states and places. Nice to see a building built and the collection being reassembled out of the weather. Mildly sad it is not open to the public for sight seeing, but at least the vehicles still exist. I am not so sure about running some of the older tanks. Where would you get rubberized new bogie wheels for an M3 Stuart for instance? The old ones are dry rotted for sure, but does anyone even import rubber anymore, much less make rubber coated bogie wheels? Engine gaskets and bearings would probably have to be hand built. New transmission parts for an early Panther? You have a T-72? I had a model of one once. Nice to see a video about the T-72 and why development of it was discontinued.
This should be opened up to the public. It would be fairly easy to accomplish both missions with scheduling. Part of this is they likely do not want the general public on post and they should have built this right next to the main gate, (no idea on where it is on post), but regardless it is doable.
It would be nice if it was more immersive but just lines of vehicles with a sign with just the statistics would be fine. I have been in many auto museums that were just lines of cars with little reason on the order they are in and they are fine.
There's a whooooole lotta reasons why its NOT easy, especially with just a staff of three. Case in point, just looking at when we teach classes. Not only do I teach the classes for 3-4 hours, but then I have to change clothes and clean the place afterwords, including the bathroom after 120 Soldiers...then I have to go do all the other work I'm required to do like inventories, research requests, conditions reports, etc.
Don't get me wrong, I want us to be available to the public, but its not as simple as flipping an "open" sign. We really need to be resourced first. And unfortunately that won't happen until people make it an issue with elected officials.
@@robertcogan7109 Try an experiment. Instead of open houses, once the signage is up try opening up just on Saturdays or every other Saturday. See if you raise enough money to pay for the ticket taker and bathroom cleaner and such and it would not surprise me if you got volunteers to run it as long as it is only open for limited hours. I have been to many auto museums that do not have anywhere near as unique of a collection that run with no outside budget. My guess is most of the current activity is on weekdays.
The Chieftain was been to most armor museums in the world. Ask him for his views. Good luck. This is a national treasure.
@@jerrymiller9039 Again, not that easy. Because it was members of congress many years ago (on both side of the aisle so no need for arguements) that stated we're not allowed to be open to the public, we can't take comp time off if we do things on the weekend. When I do an open house on the weekend, I receive no pay, I receive no comp time. I did 8 of those in 2019 alone. I love my job, but I also owe my family (and my sanity) some time on the weekend, especially since I already put between 50-60 hours a week in as is right now. Also as a Department of Defense entity, we are bound by law that we cannot charge admission fees. This is unfortunately what makes me mad at the situation, people assume we're not open because I or the rest of the staff won't put in effort. We take our orders just like the rest of the Army. Hence my statement that if anything is to really change, it will have to come with support and efforts of elected officials.
@@robertcogan7109 I support you. I did not realize that congress specified that it could not be open to the public. I certainly disagree with that policy but that is a hard bar to cross. I am not trying to kill the messenger here.
Having said that, I still think it is a national treasure and it is in the best interests of both the military and general tax payers if it could be open to the public. The military needs more positive interactions and education of the general public. I am a combat veteran but also long since separated and consider myself part of both groups. Good luck.
@@jerrymiller9039 Believe me, I feel your frustrations! And if I see gruff about it, its not you, more aimed at anyone else who might scroll past thinking why we're not accessible. And agreed that it is indeed a treasure, one that tells a very important story. That's why I started the open house program and hope we are kicking it off again this fall. Thanks!
I feel that this is my tax pay dollars going to very good use. I'm glad that ya'all are endeavoring to make it more accessible to the public over time. Until then I hope that you guys work with people like the Chieftain, to do some really excellent inside and outside viritual tours to be posted here on youtube. Those are honestly even better than being there because we then get to see the inside of the tanks and have someone knowledgeable explain to us what all the odd instruments and equipment actually do. So I say worry less about public tours, and concentrate first on 1st rate virtual tours.
Once this place has its official grand opening and has every vehicle currently available to them inside they really need to invite both the Chieftain and Sofilein to do a series of videos giving us a grand tour of the facility and all of its exhibits.
Lol your face when he said an Army Abrams was coming...
That place looks like Heaven.
How cool would a replica Super Pershing on display be.
What a national treasure!
Vietnam are about to ditch t34s sus etc so I think you could get a few to run about shoot etc... also I'm sure they could let you have a t54 early configuration if you ask nicely...
An interesting note. If the Vietnamese armor and equipment ends up on the civilian market, it will be illegal to bring it to the United States. Imported vehicles and equipment cannot be from countries the U.S. fought against in a war.
I'm sure it's more complex than that.. Otherwise german italian Spanish etc wehicles would not be possible also aircraft ?? Migs???? Even if some silly racist USA being gxy legislation exists I'm sure that a direct to museum or somesuch method can be used
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WWWOOOOHHHOOOO! THIS IS AWESOME! seeing so many important historical artifacts being preserved under a roof in a temperature controlled environment is giving me such a preservationists boner.
Gotta think you could maybe make a bunch of money-giving tours to the public like me, I'd love to check it out. But I'd likely miss the 2 days It is open, well the videos are great, thanks.
Sherman tanks are very nice. More Sherman tanks is even more nice.
You get me.
@@robertcogan7109 So, let us say you had the option of using only Shermans, nothing but Shermans, in a game that could either be on a computer/console or tabletop/board/card.
Would you do it?
@@spamuraigranatabru1149 I'd do it, and I have. World of Tanks (when I played it) plus other PC games, and have also done it in table top wargames.
@@robertcogan7109 You get me.
I’m really pleased to see you have an appropriate building to take care of these wonderful pieces of history. It makes me ill to see rare tanks rusting away in the elements. Tank Girl (Sofi) will love this place!👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻
She already loves this place, as you can see in the number of videos she has produced there, both together with Rob Cogan and with others.
Finally ! Looks good
The facility is at 32.375971, -84.840529 at Fort Benning. In the Google Maps imagery, there is one of the old T30-series heavy tanks in the lot outside.
Greetings Chieftain! Thanks for the overview. Do you recall if this museum has a Crusader tank in it? Thanks
I believe the one in the US is in Fort Lee
@@TheChieftainsHatch Thanks mate! I went down a "spontaneous research rabbit hole" last night to locate surviving Crusader tanks and it was unexpectedly mysterious- for example regarding when the famous Jacques Littlefield collection was liquidated, I was able to track down the auction results- but their Crusader 2 was inexplicably missing. (The Crusader 3 with the potent 6 pounder is to me what the Sherman is to you : )
Every time we rucked or bussed out to the field I remember looking at the t29 amd t30 and barely believing those were still real.
Any idea when they are going to re-open the museum nearby?
Rob said something about identification training, curious if that will include other foreign vehicles in the Army in addition to ones in the collection
"Starting to look like Bolos" 😄 *sigh* no Hellbore yet.
Hmm, Dinochrome Brigade or OGRE Mk. V?
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Why not both?
@@dougsundseth6904 Better to start with a Mark I model of either first. 😊
So is this going to be 'the' US national armour collection?
So....some of this collection came from Ft. Knox? Curious if some of those old neglected pieces I was forced to run by in the heat and snow back in 06 doing the 19D OSUT thing are getting taken care of now. I mean some of those were really looking rough back then.
great building!!!!
There's enough room there to hang one of those Soviet flying tanks from the ceiling.... just a thought. ;-)
No crap, there was a discussion about trying to portray a Sheridan being airdropped but waaaayyyyy out of our current budget.
Best show I have watched in a while. Very descriptive on the subject. I love tanks!
What email? Lol
23:30 the Chieftain casually asking about color availability is so " I am not REALLY interested in this car, but..." that I laughed my head off.
I'm pretty sure the two behemoths behind you guys used to be out front of Marshall Hall at Ft Knox (Maint Dept).
Will the German WWII tanks that were once at the Aberdeen Proving Grounds be included here?
As a graduate of the 'Benning School for Boys', I can't figure out why the museum for Armor and Cav is located at the Home of the Infantry (The land of the Brave). Why not at Knox or Hood?
I was a long time ago that I attended the Infantry Officer's Course. Having watched the video, I realize that they've moved the Armor School to Benning - The Horror!
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@@rrl4245 I did Infantry training back in late 2016 and you could hear the tanks firing from the infantry training sites. it was awesome with the occasional A-10 and Black-hawk flying in formation above. The tankers also get so much space out there in Benning its kinda ridiculous. i estimated roughly a third at the max of the base while i was looking at the training sections on the map in my Barracks.
Sofielin has a couple of videos here. GO WATCH.
I assume they won't be having an open house anytime soon? Gonna be down at Benning in a couple weeks, would love to see it.
Would love to go to an open day there if I ever visit the States
So for all the metric people out there:
196000 ft² is about 18209m²
ask about the M728 CEV