Does the 2025 Toyota 4Runner DRIVE better without the V6?
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- Опубликовано: 5 фев 2025
- FIRST DRIVE: It's time to see how the 2025 4Runner does when it goes down the road. The Platinum trim is all new from Toyota. On the outside you will notice a unique grill, 20in wheels and raised roof rails. On the inside you will be greeted by soft-tex material and a 14in infotainment screen size. Under the hood is the i-Force MAX which consists of a 2.4L turbocharged inline-4 paired with an electric motor and 8-speed automatic transmission. Does the 2025 Toyota 4Runner DRIVE better without the V6?
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Finally a good video that doesn't show corners and bunch of non sense cover music. I am glad I found your channel while back.
To be fair, this new design with the Underground color looks totally dope.
If it offered a V6 it probably would be around $80,000! Prices on these new vehicles are getting ridiculous!
You’re not wrong about that!
@Yankeeboy704 i have to say, if it had the V6, I'd pay more for it. Not, $80k, that would be nuts, but if was less than $70k.....I'd actually think about it.
Prices are reasonable.
Step yo game up.
@@RaitisRides Thank’s for the video, love your content!!!
@@IReviewItV6 even @ $70k no way! I love the looks of it, but there’s a reason Tundra’s, Tacomas and pretty soon 4Runner’s are piling up on dealerships lots. Just my opinion!
Morning coffee and Joe Raiti’s video. This is how you start a day off right.
Thanks David for spending some on throttle time with us!
Doug DeMuro Too.
@@maureencora1 Gross!
10:00 “I got hardwood” 😂
Thanks for letting me share the laughs and the cars with you!
16:36 "You gotta have a place to put your weiners, right?"
I was looking for this comment! Hahaha
My man Raiti keeps cranking out the videos flying from one end of the country to the next “secret location” and “to the door panels!” of the Earth to bring us all these quality reviews! Thank you my man!
The rear cargo area along with the way the rear seats fold have ZONKED this 4Runner off my buy list!
No bulletproof V6? No thank you. Toyota lost me forever as a customer with their decisions and poor quality control. If they pull their heads out of their rear-end, I may come back, but I'm keeping my 2020 4runner TRD Off Road forever.
You definitely have a keeper
AMEN to that
@@Noahkinzheck yeah
We’ve had that engine in the Toyota hilux here in Africa for a long time and it’s quite reliable. I don’t understand the hate
@@MrAllan875 spoiled Americans
Almost $70k and they throw in a hood prop rod! These companies are such scumbags when it comes down to cutting corners!
I wake up just to watch this first drive Joe.
Thanks for your dedication
Anytime brother
Yes, another beautiful new SUV I can't afford.
They have other trims
Yeah these prices are a joke after covid
I like everything about this generation except the 4 cylinders.
I love this 4Runner a lot but I miss the V6. And I love the underground color scheme on the 4Runner it is very pretty
You and me both!
@tanyawalter7026thanks for tuning in
@@RaitisRides ❤️You’re the BEST
The new engine has a lot more power, but the 0-60 is about the same as the old V-6. Aside from fuel economy, not much of an improvement.
Miss the ancient 5 speed v6 with weak power and craptacular mpg? Come on now. That engine sucked
Only 23/24mpg on a 4 cyl turbo hybrid? That seems low considering my Explorer ST gets 19/26mpg on a twin turbo v6.
This is a very valid point
aerodynamics is much better in an explorer than a body on frame brick.
Explore is lower ground clearance, 1k lbs lighter, and not body on frame.
@@Yummzoh our suburban gets about 22 around town and 27 highway and weights 6300lb.but it's got a diesel engine. # of cylinders not a good comparison for mpg. You could put a gas v8 that gets 30mpg in a small car.
First drive finally been waiting months for this.
Saving every Raiti's video for lunch is the best way to go! Thanks for great video
the more technology they keep adding the more I'm sticking with old school ...
Looks great, just wished Toyota offered a V6.
You are not the first or the last to say that!
@@RaitisRides Thanks Joe the 2026 Honda v6 passport will be a better buy
@@Jojo-ni2cgyou may be right
@@Jojo-ni2cg Not comparable. Passport is only AWD and is based on a car platform, whereas the 4Runner is a true truck and has 4x4
@@SpeedRacer1999 ya with a 4-cylinder turbo
Joe always makes the best video reviews. Thank you Joe!
Toyota “we have a NA V6 that lasts forever and that’s what people want, so let’s switch to a 4 cyl turbo’d hybrid, yeah that’s what people want”
Don’t let them confuse you with “yeah but the new engine has more power”, of course it does, and if they turbo’d the V6 and added a hybrid, it would have even more, it’s a downgrade, don’t get it confused
We need to stop buying the new cars offered nowadays, play the politicans out..
Thanks for sharing your insight on this one Joel!
I don’t understand people complaining about the engine. We’ve had it here in Africa for a number of years and it’s quite reliable!
Thanks for sharing that great personal experience
We've had the same powertrain in the Tacoma for a year and it's been problematic...more to do with the transmission is my understanding
@@johnadair6108 we had a few transmission issues especially with the automatics. The manuals (standard) are the preferred option here.
Not with my money! I’m keeping my V6 RX 2017 for a long time.
You know western people are dumb and they dont know how to appreciate things 😂
Joe your reviews are spot on and very helpful..
The T24A-FTS 2.4L turbo has alrrafy been out since 2021 with basically zero issues. It's ready proving itself to be a bulletproof engine and has had a better start in life than the 4.0L V6.
The 4.0L V6 on the other hand had head gasket issues in the first couple years and is known for overheating and warping it's block. But everyone ignores this because it's 21 years old.
And for people who hate the sound of the 4cyl, the V6 really doesn't sound very good in the first place...
I appreciate you sharing that personal experience!
Owners forums say otherwise 😂 You calling tons of pissed owner’s liars ?
@@spursdynasty7378 Nobody is complaining about the engine in any of the vehicles it's in as far as reliability.
People are complaining about the transmission issues in the Tacoma. Which is in fact not an engine problem. 😂
Pretty much all of the complaints about specifically the T24A-FTS is the fact that it's not a V6. Which I frankly don't understand because the Toyota V6 has never sounded good regardless on if it was the 4.0L or 3.5L NA V6's.
Now the V35A-FTS, that's definitely had a rough start and there are definitely complaints everywhere as there should be. A lot of the complaints there have been justified.
Agree on the missing hood struts on a top of the line trim level. That's insulting. Toyota knows better. Awesome review Joe! Great camera work Steven!
Jesus these new cars are worth more than what people make per year
Way to keep the average American in debt. That’s the American way 😂
@@spursdynasty7378go live in any other country and its worse on average
I love ❤️ 😍 this new 4 runner..new design..evolution is necessary 🙌..just put a air intake and a aftermarket exhaust will do the trick..thanks Joe and Steven for this exciting segment 😀
I'm Japanese living in Japan and I didn't know that this was being named "4Runner" in the US, because the name I knew was Hilux Surf, the model name in Japan. I haven't seen yet the latest model in Japan, probably it's not sold for here? Anyway, Hilux Surf that I had seen a lot in the mid 90s in Japan was the second generation. I'm starting to recall the old good time, where there was nothing but hope.
Oh wow! Thanks for sharing that really cool imfo
Nice review, Joe! Hard to justify spending 63k or close to 70k after taxes on this vehicle especially with a 4 cylinder engine.
Please drive/review the non-hybrid version soon (I will never buy a hybrid vehicle)!
Too much money for a 4 cylinder banger! My vote goes to Honda Passport which comes with a proper V6 engine and looks better, too!
So far this powertrain has been solid on my 2024 Tacoma. Already put 15k miles without a hiccup
That is great to hear from an actual owner's experience!
It only has 15,000 what are you expecting. Talk about low expectations
@@LifeCycle1978 lol yeah you’re right that it’s not a lot in the grand scheme . But with the Tundra engines failing with low miles when they came out the V6 twin turbo you have to see where I coming from. Plus, those early transmission issues that some Tacoma had. People are weary with these new power trains that recently have come out.
So 15k isn’t much but it’s good to know that doesn’t have a powertrain defect with the engine transmission even with 15k miles.
Coffee and Raiti no better way to start your day.
Thanks for being so supportive
Joe thank you for bringing this first drive 🙏🏽 the rear loos the same to me, but the front looks very different from the previous generation to me.
It’s interesting what Toyota did.
@@RaitisRidesyes you’re right
The dealer here has been after us to trade up!! NFW.........got a 2018 Limited and a 2018 SR5........love the V6........bullet proof................
I will keep my 2015 4 Runner( V6 ) Limited just saying ..!! Why does everybody want to purchase my Toyota, never mind I think I know the answer…!! Thanks for the review JOE 👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼❤️
You are so very welcome! Trust me I don't blame you for keeping!
My 2015 LTD has 220k miles. No reason to replace.
An “off road” luxury that no one is going to take off road
That v6 4 runner was slow as hell. Hoping this one drives better.
This color is nearly identical to my F150 in Leadfoot Grey. I love the color.
I love the blue seats
My $1000 deposit is down for the 4R Platinum as of a week ago here in Canada. I'm told 8-16 months! Trading in my 21 4R Limited Nightshade. :( ON THROTTLE!!!!! Sounds great! Great review thanks!
That’s how they manipulate the market by making you think the wait is long and you need a deposit.
Congrats for you! That is so awesome!
That wait time might be a good thing,some of the early bugs might be worked out😊
Better hope you get it at the promised price before those tariffs kick in!
@ That's a joke right? 4Runners built in Japan my friend.
Unique color for sure. Love that it has running boards on a midsize SUV. 9 different trims is crazy. Prop rod on a 4Runner is major zonk. Standard sunroof on a Platinum is major zonk
I like the new exterior look. Wish they could step it up a bit on the interior finishes. Still looks cheap even on the Platinum trim. For the money they are asking, need to do better. Looks like it drives pretty well.
Love your videos as always! But just have one zonk on your description of the seat design. Those shapes are hexagon design, not octogon. But still very cool! 😆
I actually love the design I wish they would had keep the V6
Joe, you forgot to point out the awesome LED lantern on the left end of the dashboard. Just open the driver side door and look at the mysterious knob on the end of the dash. Just unscrew it and pull it out. It’s an LED lantern complete with a handle. 👍
Joe, One day recently it was windy at 16 MPH. Everyone was driving in the right lane at 65MPH. I was cruising in the left lane at a steady and stable 80 MPH. I was in my 2018 Pathfinder, the jellybean aerodynamics is superb. I originally wanted a 4 Runner but decided to wait for an update that is finally here. I would really like this new platform and power train to be the famous Toyota reliability.
Moral of the story get the older models
Those are definitely keepers
In a world where nothing ever changes …
Glad I bought a 5th gen, 4 runner years ago. That new one looks like plastic garbage interior, motor looks like crap, put a cover over that engine! The NA 4.0Litre V-6 pulls like a champ, will run forever, turbos wear out , 4 cylinders work hard and die young. Sorry Toyota, you lost me with this re-do. Sure it will be popular but not my favorite
Very good review i have the tacoma trail hunter I'm using 92 octane non ethanol gas it really improves performance with premium gas ⛽️
Couldn’t wait to check it out!
Zonk 1 is the high lift into the rear. Zonk 2 the seats don't fold down flat.
Omg THANK YOU FOR DOING THIS VIDEO JOE!!!
Love it! Wish platinum trim Had the everest color.
Yeah that would look fantastic!
Joe when will you do the first drive of the Wagoneer S, I was waiting for your first drive for the Wagoneer S, didn’t see yours, and yours always more fun, I can’t wait for it.
It’s coming soon!
look at 4runners from the 90s and early 2000s. still running and looking solid. i have full faith that toyota knows what they are doing in the long run. hoping to get 250K out of my 2023 SR5 one day.
Oh I am sure you will!
Did you drive the offroad trims as well? How does the offroad suspension feel on the highway, compared to the adaptive suspension on the Platinum? Do the offroad trims have noticeably more bounce/rocking and body-roll compared to the Platinum?
Toyota really knocked it out of the park with the design. Modern yet clearly a 4Runner.
Toyota has been developing hybrids for years. Don’t you think that for a brand that’s known for reliability that they aren’t just gonna wake up randomly one day and decide to drop a four cylinder in the majority of their lineup without ensuring it’s reliable. I get it change is hard but folks are already hating on it saying it’s bad and never even drove one yet alone owned it.
Trust me I totally get what you are saying Jordan. It will be interesting to see if the diehard 4Runner will be persuaded.
Did you already forget? The turbo tundras have been TERRIBLE. And the Tacoma transmissions fail left and right smh.
It’s not just the turbos. The new Toyota standard isn’t reliability anymore…..It’s profit and technological complexity.
The Camry and Corolla and most crossovers are okay tho as long as they aren’t turbo.
@ You have to remember this is a new generation of vehicles, there are going to be issues. But Toyota consistently provides consumers with good warranties and continues to work on those issues and like every generation the later ones will be more reliable than the first year models (Plus Toyota will have that model for like 8-12 years without a new gen). Every manufacturer deals with the same thing, it’s just bound to happen. Regarding the Tundra that is a completely new take on their hybrid system, Toyota has only ever worked with a 4 cylinder engine for their hybrids and are trying something new for this generation with adding a hybrid to the 6cylinder, that is a work in progress. And when you’re dealing with Trucks that have to carry loads and when you have new transmissions in those things, this will happen. I can guarantee there is still that standard of reliability, and Toyota very much values that, but they also have to take into consideration the market and what’s trending as well as new efficiency regulations they have to abide by. That’s why they’ve added so much new tech because when everyone is dropping a 13 inch screen and they’re making breaking numbers in sales, you kind of have to adapt to that. That’s why they also moved away for those traditional engines especially when you have electric turbos and all these new car technologies that give better performance but are under new efficiency regulations.
I'd take this new 4Runner over the old one with that 4.0L V6 any day.
Go back to the v6 with the supercharger Toyota used to offer. Nissan should do the same.
I like the way that you think
I honestly love this new model, it looks very modern and sleek. Only thing is, usually first year of a brand new generation always has a ton of bugs and issues. Ill let them iron out the issues and maybe ill get it.
I don’t think the reliability is going to be that bad. It might not be as good as the V6 because the V6 was just out so long. But just a point out the reason why everyone’s salty about this engine and transmission is the Tacoma, but that’s made in the Mexico plant. Where the 4Runner is still made in Japan so the quality is very likely going to be higher on the 4runner than the Tacoma. Still not sure on the price increases though because some of the trims went up a lot the SR5 is probably the Best Buy because it stayed the same price as the previous generation
They should had made the front say Toyota instead of that logo. Its a platinum so give it that Toyota love.
Toyota 4Runners are pretty awesome! They’ve got that rugged look and are super reliable for off-roading. Plus, they have a lot of space for adventures.
Bot 🤖
You hit the nail on the head
He actually is not a Bot Noah! LOL
Love this 4Runner, however, I am getting the SR, the TRD Sport/Offroad and Limited because they are all non-hybrids, Joe.
I like the overall refresh. still its a hard decision between new vs old. I'm leaning towards an older model moonrock TRD PRO :)
I love the way that you think!
Viva the all-new Toyota 4Runnee! I do really love the fake vents on the fenders & it gives it style as to a bland underground fenders. Plz reply
Thanks for sharing your thoughts on this one Luis!
Looks good in that color
$63000 for an ipad and a turbo 4. Nope. Test drove a Land Cruiser yesterday. Did a harsh nose dive when barely applying the brakes, repeatedly. Not touching these new Toyotas.
Joe if I drop the rear glass with the kids in the "way back" will they fall asleep fast with the help of some exhaust fume and can I get some trousers in "underground" colors, thanks for the video keep up the good work 🇺🇸 🍺
Joe and Lori and Steve keep up the good work real true and I love the video 💯
Looks like a nice update, I would like a v6 but this is the everything is going now. I do like how Toyota is still making body on frame mid size SUVs, also sedans. Ford and and GM think everyone wants a crossover or a pickup
Another top notch review without the fluff, great job Joe! Would love to see a performance comparison against the non-hybrid engine, perhaps in the limited trim.
It’s a great look and probably will be a great truck. It’s just too damn expensive. Dealers for sure going to be pushing 7-8 year loans for this one to have affordable monthly payments
Got an underground grey tacoma and Love that underground on the 4runner. Still not 💯 on the tacoma copy and paste look. I liked how the last gen had its own look. Dont mind the 4cyl turbo, its great on my Tacoma however if toyota worked on the old 4.0 v6 refined it and paired it with the 8 speed that thing would be amazing
That is really awesome to hear!
This is close to Lexus GX 550 Overtrail prices. I'll get that with the turbo V6 and better everything else instead.
The design is nice and cool.
The price makes us crazy even more.
The pricing is pretty nuts!
Strike 1 Tundra….Strike 2 Tacoma….Strike 3 4Runner…and your out if your looking for Toyota quality & reliability from the past. RIP
It’s been a tough for the hardcore Yota fans.
Damn this trim is nice... If this had an OPTIONAL 4.0L V6 ... I might get one. But with this 4cyl.. IDK ... I might have to switch to American again for trucks/suvs. Reliability is crap on EVERYTHING .... Including Toyota and Honda... So you can technically buy any car brand these days 🤷🏽♂️
Been waiting for this one. Any Raiti's Recommendations on this or comparable?
The big one is going to be the 2026 Passport
I heard turbo are expensive to fix I think they should keep to the v6.
"you got a octagon" *points at Hexagons* -Raiti 2025
I think that all vehicles over, say 50K should come with PPF on the whole front.
Love this
My 2008 back seats fold all the way to a point I have a flat sleeping area, this was as disappointing as the center storage. As for the engine, I am ok with the 4 cylinder, but hasn't it have issues in the other models already, not sure you want to be the first unless you lease it, turbos are not gonna last as long. Not loving the middle pertruding screen either, but I know some love that.
Love your channel and the reviews
Curious how the TRD Pro drives in comparison to previous gen
I’ll let you know soon!
@@RaitisRides thank you!!
I bought a new 23 4Runner SR5. Drove it from Miami to Malibu, before the fires
It was great, on the highway, but around town, it struggled. Just big and clumsy
I'm a little confused by the benefits of the hybrid. You only get a couple of MPG
And the added weight kill any acceleration advantage. Nice specs, but not much value
The hybrid is for more power instead of better mileage for this vehicle.
Thanks for sharing your real world experience
@ The problem is the power doesn't translate to much better performance, or better towing, so why have it?
@@InvestBetter. that’s why I would opt for the regular gas turbo instead of the hybrid turbo. The regular gas turbo is like 600 pounds lighter.
I like it but is crazy expensive. The base model Lexus GX 550 starts at 65, I just wouldn't pay 63 for this.
You are not the first to say that
@14:19 thanks needed that.
The 5th gen only needed a better transmission, more than 5 gears, a tech upgrade. The rest was and still is- perfect.
Between this and the Land Cruiser, it's tough to choose the winner. I do like the large LCD screen.
Try searching byd leopard 8
This car is hot
Beautiful SUV truck from brand New Toyota 4runner 2025
did you do in and out see how many double doubles fit in the console ? ,here in san Diego never seen any of the 4 runners driving around but this might be few mos old ?
This is the one I would get, exactly! Ballpark price?
Previous gen was more fun. Slightly bouncy made it more fun. Everything is becoming the same since they are using the same platform for everything. There is no difference the way vehicles drive between 4runner Land cruiser Sequoia tundra or tacoma
Does every trim have that giant screen?
The back windshield wiper style is very Toyota. Gone is the V6 but there is an upside to it with the newer motor
Long term reliability will not compare to previous gen
I think you may be right
I disagree. We’ve had the 4cyl turbo in the Toyota hilux here in Africa for a long time and it’s quite reliable
My Mom Wants One But In Red👍🏻👏🏻❤️🚙💨!!!
4 Cylinder is fine for Rav4. People that buys 4Runner wants V6! Dumb move Toyota