Turbo charged cars are tough on oil. After a good hard run, the turbos can get hot enough to glow in the dark. It is a good practice to "idle down" the turbo as we called it. Let the car idle about 5 minutes before shutting off the engine after a hard run. This allows the turbo to cool down. If you immediately shut the engine off, oil feed stops but the turbo still spins. The bearings have no oil at that point. This can lead to what is known as "coking". The hot turbo bakes the oil in the feed line and over time the carbon plugs the line, starving the turbo for oil. Saab recommended installing both new feed and return lines when replacing a turbo. Turbocharged engines require extra careful maintenance. Change the oil every 3k miles. You don't want to follow extended OCIs with turbos.
Hi M Lieser! I had a 1986 boosted Chrysler and I always "idled down" before shutting it off. It idled rough, which was normal. During every excelleration the turbo whinned. If you got on it the pressures pushed oil out and you would smell it burning. They sure have come a long ways. 😄🐶🐕
@@troublemakingpups5787 When the turbos on the Saabs were on the way out they sounded like a police siren. Our service manager's wife kept looking in the rear view mirror as she thought the cops were after her!🤣
Better yet: If it's a daily driver, don't push the pedal to the floor for 30+ seconds. If your turbo is glowing in the dark, your bearings and seals there are shot before you ever see it. And that whole "10k oil change" is out the window lol
It is pretty cool to see good people like you going the extra mile to find other failures and the root causes of the problems. I know corporate may not appreciate that, but I have the highest respect for people like you. The customers may not want to spend the money, but I know that they do respect the fact that the vehicle is reliable after the repairs. I would catch so much heat for doing the right thing on the engineering side of things for the dealerships. The hacks would be rewarded. The come backs from the hacks was insane. Our customers were so angry when the trucks would be on the hook, before the trucks were 15 mins away from the dealership. People like you are so important. Thank you.
Hi,love watching your videos, i too love your straight up answers and your detail investigating and repairs.big fan! Can you tell me ,did they change the manifold in the 2017 model 3.5 powerboost or if its the same. Thanks mark.
One of the turbos on my 2015 F-150 failed. It was prior to 40,000mi IIRC. I noticed my coolant level was slowly dropping and reported it to my dealer. They told me one of the coolant lines to one of the turbos was improperly assembled and replaced the turbo and all for free. The engine itself was rock-solid prior to and after that, right up until the young woman pulled out in front of me and got creamed. Good little engines.
Older Turbo Subaru have them screens inside the turbo feed lines banjo fittings, they get plugged up and cause turbo failure. The newer Turbo Subaru, I am not sure if the screens are there. Generally for the Subies it is caused from dirty oil lack of oil changes.. I drive a 2018 Forester XT basically my XT is a WRX with a SUV body, I change oil/filter every 3k miles regardless.
I have a 2015. Lost both turbos at the same time. The vehicle had about 120,000 miles on it at the time. I have 42,000 on the new turbos. Last month...the control module in the transmission went. Repairs average to be about $1200+ a year. My advise.....do not go more than 5000 miles on an oil change. research oils and filters and use the absolute best you find. The new transmission control module made a huge difference in how the transmission performs. The transmission performance was my number one complaint when it was new. The transmission has never worked as good as it does now....never. Sold my last van with over 400.000 miles on it. I'm hoping to reach 250.000 miles on the 3.5 turbo without any more major issues.
We have one of these in our work fleet. Its a money pit. If there were replacement options right now, it would most likely be scrapped. (Ours is a 2017).
Never had an issue with the passenger side turbo, lines or fittings. We had a few driver side turbos leak coolant from the quick connect fitting on the turbo. Either way, how long before the driver side turbo fails? The sludge should be just as bad on that side. Do you know the oil change history of the van? What oil , what filter and how often? Thanks, keep up the good work 👍.
So it's the Driver's Responsibility to change his own oil in this company truck that's the agreement that he has and he uses a Napa Gold filter and NAPA oil but I don't know how often he changes it
i came from a generation were you got over 100 thousand miles on car you got your money's worth! ( as long as there were no major problems with the vehicle) i have my full size bronco on order with the 2.3 . i will be happy happy with 100 thousand trouble free miles! i service my vehicles regularly and since the 2.3 has been in the mustang the past 7yrs . I'm betting all the bugs are worked out ! thanks for the insight on this 3.5 eco boost 👍
Is the oil sludge on turbo feed line due to a lack of maintenance? And do the coolant fittings always leak after so many years or heat cycles. Or did the turbo overheat due to poor oil flow and cause a coolant leak? Have a great day brother.
That's like little chunks of carbon not Sludge and maybe just a little bit of sludge but not very much Lack of maintenance no being an ecoboost engine yes, These boosted applications they get dirty very quick
Ford dealership will replace the same bank turbo on my 2017 T350 3.5L Ecoboost. Should they replace the manifold with the upgraded one? They often seem to do bare, bare minimum work, very displeased with them but I want them to do it right this time. Thanks and God bless you
Is this manifold issue on all 16 3.5 ecoboosts? My f150 just had starter replaced at 89k miles at Ford garage. I've noticed no coolant leaks but will look when I change coolant soon. I was considering adding an oil cooler, is this recommended? 🤔 Thanks. Remember good work is as working for the Lord! Keep it up and enjoy the house....
Rich, I got this same coolant leak happening to my F150 right now on the driver's side. Got all the pieces I need to do it just waiting on some free time. I did not buy replacement coolant lines as I hear the one to the back of the engine is a PITA to replace, so I said only replace what leaks. Thoughts and tips greatly appreciated.
When we do those we do a cab off I'm sorry it's just the easiest way to do it we don't do them without the cab off of the truck it's just easier that way so doing them in Jessie with the cab down I can't help
Here's to hoping the bolts won't need that. I've seen a few guys do it through the wheel well to get access to the turbo, pull it out and replace the fittings. I guess I'll let you know how that goes. I'm just trying to save a few bucks plus I do enjoy wrenching away at cars, I think if I didn't go the engineer route, a mechanic would of been my next choice. Thanks for the info.
My 2019 T250 has been in and out of the Dealer for repairs. Just got Diagnosed with a busted exhaust manifold AGAIN yesterday. Love the Van but the stuff around the engine is junky.
It amazes me that ford thinks the general public is responsible enough to own a turbo vehicle. Honestly you can expect to see this happen a lot with delivery vehicles that are started and stopped often and have the heat soak ruining the oil and bad service intervals.
2011 f150 3.5 6r80 Trans makes a squawking/honking noise when shifting. Changes what gears do it. Sometimes 3-4 sometimes 4-5. Some days it does, some days its fine. Any thoughts? Any experince with similar?
Turbo charged cars are tough on oil. After a good hard run, the turbos can get hot enough to glow in the dark. It is a good practice to "idle down" the turbo as we called it. Let the car idle about 5 minutes before shutting off the engine after a hard run. This allows the turbo to cool down. If you immediately shut the engine off, oil feed stops but the turbo still spins. The bearings have no oil at that point. This can lead to what is known as "coking". The hot turbo bakes the oil in the feed line and over time the carbon plugs the line, starving the turbo for oil. Saab recommended installing both new feed and return lines when replacing a turbo. Turbocharged engines require extra careful maintenance. Change the oil every 3k miles. You don't want to follow extended OCIs with turbos.
Hi M Lieser! I had a 1986 boosted Chrysler and I always "idled down" before shutting it off. It idled rough, which was normal. During every excelleration the turbo whinned. If you got on it the pressures pushed oil out and you would smell it burning. They sure have come a long ways. 😄🐶🐕
@@troublemakingpups5787 When the turbos on the Saabs were on the way out they sounded like a police siren. Our service manager's wife kept looking in the rear view mirror as she thought the cops were after her!🤣
@@mlieser1230 Lmao...too funny! 😂🤣🐶🐕
Great advice! I didnt know that. I will definitely start doing that
Better yet: If it's a daily driver, don't push the pedal to the floor for 30+ seconds. If your turbo is glowing in the dark, your bearings and seals there are shot before you ever see it. And that whole "10k oil change" is out the window lol
It is pretty cool to see good people like you going the extra mile to find other failures and the root causes of the problems. I know corporate may not appreciate that, but I have the highest respect for people like you. The customers may not want to spend the money, but I know that they do respect the fact that the vehicle is reliable after the repairs.
I would catch so much heat for doing the right thing on the engineering side of things for the dealerships. The hacks would be rewarded. The come backs from the hacks was insane. Our customers were so angry when the trucks would be on the hook, before the trucks were 15 mins away from the dealership. People like you are so important. Thank you.
Hi,love watching your videos, i too love your straight up answers and your detail investigating and repairs.big fan! Can you tell me ,did they change the manifold in the 2017 model 3.5 powerboost or if its the same. Thanks mark.
One of the turbos on my 2015 F-150 failed. It was prior to 40,000mi IIRC. I noticed my coolant level was slowly dropping and reported it to my dealer. They told me one of the coolant lines to one of the turbos was improperly assembled and replaced the turbo and all for free. The engine itself was rock-solid prior to and after that, right up until the young woman pulled out in front of me and got creamed. Good little engines.
Brother you have the patience of a saint working on these things....... Give me a 65' 2 + 2 with a 289 and I'm good...
GOD BLESS
I respect rebuilders who take pride in their work and do a good job. 💯 Rebuilding parts and taking pride is getting less common. Thank u Rich again.
As always real value with real knowledge, thanks Boss!
Thank You
Very interesting, I learned a lot...thanks Rich!!👍😎
Would hate to see the bill on this one too!!! Ouch! Keep up the good work Rich!
And I thought working on my 95 Thunderbird Super Coupe was a pain in the ass 😂😂
Brother that looks like a very complicated repair !
Another great video! 💪💪👊👊
Wonder why FoMoCo cheaped out on the manifold attachments ...
Older Turbo Subaru have them screens inside the turbo feed lines banjo fittings, they get plugged up and cause turbo failure. The newer Turbo Subaru, I am not sure if the screens are there. Generally for the Subies it is caused from dirty oil lack of oil changes.. I drive a 2018 Forester XT basically my XT is a WRX with a SUV body, I change oil/filter every 3k miles regardless.
why i wont get a car with a turbo..
Thxs Boss nice video good info.....
I have a 2015. Lost both turbos at the same time. The vehicle had about 120,000 miles on it at the time. I have 42,000 on the new turbos.
Last month...the control module in the transmission went. Repairs average to be about $1200+ a year.
My advise.....do not go more than 5000 miles on an oil change. research oils and filters and use the absolute best you find.
The new transmission control module made a huge difference in how the transmission performs. The transmission performance was my number one complaint when it was new. The transmission has never worked as good as it does now....never. Sold my last van with over 400.000 miles on it. I'm hoping to reach 250.000 miles on the 3.5 turbo without any more major issues.
My 6.7 was leaking from them I use a pick to pop out the u clip it’s tight
Complete lack of maintenance causes that. These things need a lot of TLC..
Funny how they machined the head for the updated manifold from new but they didn’t put the better manifold on when new. Engendering at its finest.
Might need some fresh spark plugs installed. I know it will get fresh oil/filter, that is a given.
We have one of these in our work fleet. Its a money pit. If there were replacement options right now, it would most likely be scrapped. (Ours is a 2017).
Never had an issue with the passenger side turbo, lines or fittings. We had a few driver side turbos leak coolant from the quick connect fitting on the turbo.
Either way, how long before the driver side turbo fails? The sludge should be just as bad on that side. Do you know the oil change history of the van? What oil , what filter and how often?
Thanks, keep up the good work 👍.
So it's the Driver's Responsibility to change his own oil in this company truck that's the agreement that he has and he uses a Napa Gold filter and NAPA oil but I don't know how often he changes it
i came from a generation were you got over 100 thousand miles on car you got your money's worth! ( as long as there were no major problems with the vehicle) i have my full size bronco on order with the 2.3 . i will be happy happy with 100 thousand trouble free miles! i service my vehicles regularly and since the 2.3 has been in the mustang the past 7yrs . I'm betting all the bugs are worked out ! thanks for the insight on this 3.5 eco boost 👍
Any time there are Hair driers involved the cost to repair just went way up !
Lol That. thing is back and forth, up and down, doin the chicken dance she's done for hahahaha
Is the oil sludge on turbo feed line due to a lack of maintenance? And do the coolant fittings always leak after so many years or heat cycles. Or did the turbo overheat due to poor oil flow and cause a coolant leak? Have a great day brother.
Agree with you looked oil starved for some reason. Such a shame all around
That's like little chunks of carbon not Sludge and maybe just a little bit of sludge but not very much
Lack of maintenance no
being an ecoboost engine yes, These boosted applications they get dirty very quick
Sure is a lot to them these days. Good eye finding the root cause. 😉🐶🐕
Ford dealership will replace the same bank turbo on my 2017 T350 3.5L Ecoboost. Should they replace the manifold with the upgraded one? They often seem to do bare, bare minimum work, very displeased with them but I want them to do it right this time. Thanks and God bless you
I think only the new upgraded one is available
@@FordBossMe Ok thanks, can you replace the turbo but keep the old manifold?
Is this manifold issue on all 16 3.5 ecoboosts? My f150 just had starter replaced at 89k miles at Ford garage. I've noticed no coolant leaks but will look when I change coolant soon. I was considering adding an oil cooler, is this recommended? 🤔 Thanks. Remember good work is as working for the Lord! Keep it up and enjoy the house....
You can indeed have the same coolant leaks
Rich, I got this same coolant leak happening to my F150 right now on the driver's side. Got all the pieces I need to do it just waiting on some free time. I did not buy replacement coolant lines as I hear the one to the back of the engine is a PITA to replace, so I said only replace what leaks. Thoughts and tips greatly appreciated.
When we do those we do a cab off I'm sorry it's just the easiest way to do it we don't do them without the cab off of the truck it's just easier that way so doing them in Jessie with the cab down I can't help
And most of the time we're using some kind of torch because bolts end up breaking
Here's to hoping the bolts won't need that. I've seen a few guys do it through the wheel well to get access to the turbo, pull it out and replace the fittings. I guess I'll let you know how that goes. I'm just trying to save a few bucks plus I do enjoy wrenching away at cars, I think if I didn't go the engineer route, a mechanic would of been my next choice. Thanks for the info.
My 2019 T250 has been in and out of the Dealer for repairs. Just got Diagnosed with a busted exhaust manifold AGAIN yesterday. Love the Van but the stuff around the engine is junky.
Any word on sending the Rotella Oil in to have it analyzed?
It's only got like 1,500 miles on it can't send it in yet
Have a coolant leak mechanic could not find smh. eco boost 250
Turbo's are great until they're not. Not a fan of turboed anything because of this kind of expensive troubles.
It amazes me that ford thinks the general public is responsible enough to own a turbo vehicle. Honestly you can expect to see this happen a lot with delivery vehicles that are started and stopped often and have the heat soak ruining the oil and bad service intervals.
How can the customer avoid a condition like that with the turbo feed line?
Thanks for sharing.
If it's leaking internal you can't just keep your coolant changed every 60,000 miles and keep up on your maintenance
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Nice work, but Ford can keep there boosted gdi engines,,,,,so glad I'm rid of mine.
All because of a turbo. Smh
Jeez what a mess. I'm getting a Tesla.
Transit is garbage! We had one at our office and in less than one year it racked up $4000 in repairs.
2011 f150 3.5 6r80
Trans makes a squawking/honking noise when shifting. Changes what gears do it. Sometimes 3-4 sometimes 4-5. Some days it does, some days its fine.
Any thoughts? Any experince with similar?
Sounds to me like the filter might be plugged or dirty starving the pump
@@FordBossMe unfortunately i change fluid filter and pass through gasket every 40k. Current fluid/filter only has 5k on it at the moment