@mitochondria6247 If I read the intro correctly, cards shuffled into the deck don't count as being in your deck for the conditions of the battle. But it's still pretty brutal ngl, it's basically giga-fatigue.
@@hah1738Well if they have a full board when they finish drawing their whole deck they'll just kill you since they can leave you at 1hp the turns before
@@redriot-unbreakable9476 I think the best hero power strategy in your challenge is a 40 cards deck odd paladin. The 40 cards are here for reducing fatigue damages.
@@sttoha798 Actually how? you need to have no cards in deck before you can kill the opponent. He says it at the beginning what could you possibly not understand.
The strongest card is Aquatic Form. EVERY deck would and will run that card, unless it directly works against its gameplan (like spitefull druid), but at that point you should ask yourself, if your payoff is better than 0 mana draw a card.
Hearthstone but your deck class and type/archetype is decided entirely at random qnd can be any type of deck you can theoretically build around. Eg. You could have a Beast Death Knight, Deathrattle Druid, Frenzy Shaman while your opponent has Demon Priest, Highlander Warlock, Spell Warrior. Whatever you get you have to build your deck with that theme as the decks focus then try to win with them.
At 27:28 when Rarran casts Naturalize on Hakkar, idk how it _should_ work in Hearthstone, but it works in Magic's ruleset. First, the spell resolves from top to bottom, destroying a creature. Then the opponent draws 2 cards. Then the trigger from Hakkar is put on the stack and resolves after that, since triggers wait to be put on the stack while a spell is resolving. Working as intended to me.
I agree, it makes sense to me that all of a spells effects should happen together, and any resulting triggers resolve afterwards. Maybe that's just because MTG was the card game I was first introduced to, I don't know how it works in other games.
28:17 So to shed some light on the way I feel like Naturalize happened at the end there, this feels like a classic case of card resolution chaining. First, Naturalize destroys the minion. Then, as part of the same card resolution, 2 cards are drawn by the opponent. THEN, and ONLY then, is Naturalize finished resolving, at which point the Deathrattle effect is allowed to activate. Naturalize did destroy the minion first, but the Deathrattle only triggers after the *full* effect finishes resolving.
First off, I love the idea and the video. But it gave me a thought of an idea that could be fun. Suicide HS. You are trying to lose the game as fast as possible, your opponent is trying to stop you from losing while they also try to lose. Basically a race to the bottom and see who can lose with 3 decks first.
12:00 I mean, you could have discovered a swipe from the gift instead, used that and the 1/4 to kill the 10/5 and face-tanked the 10/10 with your 12/14 hero power. Would have been alive with margins to spare...
21:04 if Zeph could find a mass silence for the other minions, this would have been lethal, but iirc correctly Zeph will not find a silence if you control a frozen minion
Yo Rarran, I just thought of a great content challenge you should do with Eddie! You play the top 4 decks of each hearthstone world tournament on a weekly basis, similar to the expansion series. But you choose 1 from each year to bring to the challenge until you've played all of them! That way there's a random mix of different years of cards! Or something similar to that.
I think an interesting idea could be to set a rule like this, and after a set of games, your able to make a select amount of changes to the deck to try and adapt to your weaknesses or opponents strategy. Maybe set it so you can only change 4 or 5 cards. Or having a side deck that you establish before the games trying to predict your weaknesses and only able to swap cards from that after a set.
Seriously, hs needs to let us make custom game modes. Rarran's random ideas would make some awesome game modes where you actually have to create different and new decks to accommodate the conditions.
For all-time strongest, the two cards that were so good that they had to be rotated into Wild an entire year ahead of schedule and provided value without needing to draw them or spend mana on them have to be contenders.
It's hilarious how Rarran ask Eddy if he got an Albatross deck every time since *the* *incident* . 6:07 Don't worry, neither does Rarran, because "pocante" isn't a word in our dictionary.
I feel like control lock with guldan and nemsi would be op in this. Since you can’t lose to aggro and you have enough time to summon all the portals. Only probably is your opponent might die to fatigue before you run out of cards in your deck.
Loved the challenge, pretty original twist, and the back and forth between you two is always entertaining. Also love the Kurtis Conner tee, good ol' canadian synergy 😂
I thought this was "you only have the cards in your opening hand" That would be any interesting challenge (if there was a way to make going second not win every time)
Hakkar in this format only wins you the game if the final blood kills you specifically with the last blood, cos that's the only time your deck will be empty
15:30 Interaction isn't shuffling cards into your opponents deck to shut off all their cool cards. If it was a tech I'd be fine with it but when there's a deck that just shuffles cards in as it's wincon they aren't participating in counterplay. It's just you just get fucked my matchup. On top of that Highlander is already has issues from running no duplicates since it lacks that consistency. Add on top of that getting cards shuffled into your deck is a suckerpunch to the gut. It was a good change.
ngl I like guessing who the guest star is for the first 10 or so seconds. Is it a stupid but funny? Probably L teddy. Does it require thunk work? Probably Raffle 20$ scratcher. You have insane talent to do both.
Wait, Rarran said that if you shuffle cards into your opponent's deck, they don't matter so they can still kill you but they would matter if you shuffle into your own deck. By that logic, Hakkar would keep Rarran's deck not empty constantly on LtEddysHS's turn so if he would lose due to a Corrupted Blood and NOT fatigue then Rarran would lose because his deck would still have the Corrupted Blood. I think it was a flawed strategy.
suicide has to count as a loss for this ruleset because otherwise you could do it as a reset. idk how you would handle fatigue though because you can use fatigue as damage but also a player could unintentionally die from fatigue from the ruleset itself. So probably should ban fatigue as a win condition and make it so anyone who dies from fatigue loses.
I would say no because HE didn't kill you, you killed yourself. Otherwise you could say "Hey, you still have cards...I'm going to Pyroblast my face and win" which would go against the spirit of their rules. It's akin to their agreement that if a player dies to Fatigue while the other player still has cards in their deck, the Fatigue player still loses.
Next April fools should just be Hearthstone but you can't misplay and it would be like done in 3 minutes unless both the players brought really straight forward decks.
@@xefficient1948 ⭐Rarran then didn't watch his own intro cuz he used Blood strategy in the end... And Eddy shuffled Fatigue... They ALLOW shuffling but then it gets complicated when you shuffle plagues, bloods, fatigues ... and NPCs who try to tell me that I make no sense... (they just didn't count them as real cards)
I think the rules could be simplified: You only win if your deck is empty and your opponent dies. So if your deck isn't empty and the game ends, you lose. 2 losers is possible. Note: "empty" meaning what you said - created cards don't count.
Rarran: "I don't think our strategies are going for shuffling cards into opponent's deck".
Also Rarran: *plays Hakkar as wincon*
Tbf it was more of “hey im not gonna make it impossible for you to empty deck”
@PROcrastinatingnao but dont hakkar's bloods keep reshuffling themselves back in, thus making it impossible to be truely empty?
@mitochondria6247 If I read the intro correctly, cards shuffled into the deck don't count as being in your deck for the conditions of the battle. But it's still pretty brutal ngl, it's basically giga-fatigue.
@@mitochondria6247 doesn’t it work like helya and reshuffles after?
@@PROcrastinatingnao ye, it works like Helya.
For the people confused you can’t kill your opponent until you have no cards in your deck
thank you
@@hah1738Well if they have a full board when they finish drawing their whole deck they'll just kill you since they can leave you at 1hp the turns before
Didn't Rarran just say/clarified that within the first minute of the video?
@@susamogus8331 if you don't put board clear you can have more drawing and direct damage which transfer into earlier lethal?
@@Ed95366 yes but people dont listen nor read
9:03 "Fanny" has a different meaning over in England lol 😆😂
9:03 is the mark, its hilarious ye 😂
@@Sk00bychanged it 👍
It’s female frontal bottom part right?
TRUE
One day it'll be like Hearstone but we're not allowed to open the game
Hearthstone but smash your computer with a hammer first.
Print all the cards, handle all the RNG with dice. Sounds like Hell
Hearthstone, but you can't play cards. Honestly would be an interesting experiment seeing what hero powers come out on top (def not odd hunter).
@@redriot-unbreakable9476 I think the best hero power strategy in your challenge is a 40 cards deck odd paladin. The 40 cards are here for reducing fatigue damages.
Lmao I just wrote this and scrolled down
I would have never guessed what the challenge was just from the title. I thought that you couldn't play drawn cards or something like that
ah, the Rarran Classic
i still dont understand
Yeah, should be something like "Heroes Are Immortal While They Have A Deck" or something
same
@@sttoha798 Actually how? you need to have no cards in deck before you can kill the opponent. He says it at the beginning what could you possibly not understand.
at 11:30 should have hero power killed the taunt mech and used the gift for swipe and trade the mech into the other giant, free w have a nice day
That’s what I was looking at too, I don’t think Rarran saw it
Fattest missplay by ma boi Rarrussy
Trust Ramrod to missplay 😂😂😂
that play absolutely killed me inside
doesn't swipe deal 3 damage?
The strongest card is Aquatic Form. EVERY deck would and will run that card, unless it directly works against its gameplan (like spitefull druid), but at that point you should ask yourself, if your payoff is better than 0 mana draw a card.
11:10
The play after you drew was HP>Malf's gift for swipe>Swipe the 10/5>Hero hits the 10/10> the 1/4 hits the now 10/1
Hearthstone but your deck class and type/archetype is decided entirely at random qnd can be any type of deck you can theoretically build around. Eg. You could have a Beast Death Knight, Deathrattle Druid, Frenzy Shaman while your opponent has Demon Priest, Highlander Warlock, Spell Warrior. Whatever you get you have to build your deck with that theme as the decks focus then try to win with them.
Hearthstone, but watching Rarran is more enjoyable, than playing
11:34 literaly could have killed both with hero power swipe
At 27:28 when Rarran casts Naturalize on Hakkar, idk how it _should_ work in Hearthstone, but it works in Magic's ruleset.
First, the spell resolves from top to bottom, destroying a creature. Then the opponent draws 2 cards. Then the trigger from Hakkar is put on the stack and resolves after that, since triggers wait to be put on the stack while a spell is resolving. Working as intended to me.
I agree, it makes sense to me that all of a spells effects should happen together, and any resulting triggers resolve afterwards. Maybe that's just because MTG was the card game I was first introduced to, I don't know how it works in other games.
Same in hearthstone
4:52 order lul drew down to 10 cards after playing the blood shard bristleback
Eddy: Demon Hunter is fine because Illidan is sexy
Ya know Rarran, the man makes a compelling argument
11:28 there actually was an out if you played swipe on the windfury and just used hero power to kill the 10/10, then trade the 1/4 into the windfury
Weird he missed that
Can’t wait for “Hearthstone, but you can’t play the game.”
Isn't that basically standard meta
Rarran would never let the Albatross Incident goes isn't he?
I love when they just start talking about something not directly related to the match, like I would 100% listen to a podcast with Rarran and Eddy
28:17 So to shed some light on the way I feel like Naturalize happened at the end there, this feels like a classic case of card resolution chaining.
First, Naturalize destroys the minion. Then, as part of the same card resolution, 2 cards are drawn by the opponent.
THEN, and ONLY then, is Naturalize finished resolving, at which point the Deathrattle effect is allowed to activate.
Naturalize did destroy the minion first, but the Deathrattle only triggers after the *full* effect finishes resolving.
First off, I love the idea and the video. But it gave me a thought of an idea that could be fun. Suicide HS. You are trying to lose the game as fast as possible, your opponent is trying to stop you from losing while they also try to lose. Basically a race to the bottom and see who can lose with 3 decks first.
12:00 I mean, you could have discovered a swipe from the gift instead, used that and the 1/4 to kill the 10/5 and face-tanked the 10/10 with your 12/14 hero power. Would have been alive with margins to spare...
I love when Eddy puts his big thinking boots on
Very surprised that Rarran didn't see the hp the taunt and then swipe + trade into the 10/5 windfury out at 11:20
21:04 if Zeph could find a mass silence for the other minions, this would have been lethal, but iirc correctly Zeph will not find a silence if you control a frozen minion
Game 2: Rarran couldve used the gift for the swipe, hero powered down the taunt, and then swipe trade to kill the windfury and probably recovered
Yo Rarran, I just thought of a great content challenge you should do with Eddie! You play the top 4 decks of each hearthstone world tournament on a weekly basis, similar to the expansion series. But you choose 1 from each year to bring to the challenge until you've played all of them! That way there's a random mix of different years of cards! Or something similar to that.
I think an interesting idea could be to set a rule like this, and after a set of games, your able to make a select amount of changes to the deck to try and adapt to your weaknesses or opponents strategy. Maybe set it so you can only change 4 or 5 cards. Or having a side deck that you establish before the games trying to predict your weaknesses and only able to swap cards from that after a set.
very nice video, love when u have to make wierd decks with fun strats to make it work
Saw the title and knew it was an eddy vid. Great dynamic as usual
Really fun game, always love when you come up with cool content with Eddy, Roffle and Ecore
Seriously, hs needs to let us make custom game modes. Rarran's random ideas would make some awesome game modes where you actually have to create different and new decks to accommodate the conditions.
What a fun episode. Raran and Eddy. Dream team.
Just watching the cats sleeping in the background together ❤
For all-time strongest, the two cards that were so good that they had to be rotated into Wild an entire year ahead of schedule and provided value without needing to draw them or spend mana on them have to be contenders.
“DEMON HUNTER?!? WHAT THE FUCK?” 🤣🤣🤣
I'm loving the Kurtis Conner shirt Rarran, nice to see a fellow resident of Kurtistown!
It's hilarious how Rarran ask Eddy if he got an Albatross deck every time since *the* *incident* .
6:07 Don't worry, neither does Rarran, because "pocante" isn't a word in our dictionary.
Mecha'Thun: Am I a joke to you?
I feel like control lock with guldan and nemsi would be op in this. Since you can’t lose to aggro and you have enough time to summon all the portals. Only probably is your opponent might die to fatigue before you run out of cards in your deck.
Immediate name change "empty decks only". This title implies to me you cant play any cards from deck/cards you draw.
Eddy always seems to outcook rarran in these lol
I am going to start eating a picture of you everyday until you stream a game of treachery warlock rarran
Next up: hearthstone but you can't launch the game
Great video! More of these please
Loved the challenge, pretty original twist, and the back and forth between you two is always entertaining.
Also love the Kurtis Conner tee, good ol' canadian synergy 😂
I thought this was "you only have the cards in your opening hand" That would be any interesting challenge (if there was a way to make going second not win every time)
dude if I had custom games, this is one I have always wanted to do
Top 100 Cards of all time is gonna be hype.
Also out 1 non HS card in it, just for the fun of it.
0:59 it's been a while since I've heard the phrase "tumblr sexyman"
Imagine if Rarran cleared the board instead of leaving a 10/5 windfury on the board.
Hakkar in this format only wins you the game if the final blood kills you specifically with the last blood, cos that's the only time your deck will be empty
15:30 Interaction isn't shuffling cards into your opponents deck to shut off all their cool cards. If it was a tech I'd be fine with it but when there's a deck that just shuffles cards in as it's wincon they aren't participating in counterplay. It's just you just get fucked my matchup.
On top of that Highlander is already has issues from running no duplicates since it lacks that consistency. Add on top of that getting cards shuffled into your deck is a suckerpunch to the gut. It was a good change.
No aggro Pally with Hemet the Jungle Hunter (and Order in the Court to draw Hemet)? Shame, this was his time to shine.
I am very surprised both of them didn't go for Mecha-thun
so just a regular fatigue warrior then 😂
Woo-hoo another video with Eddie.
ngl I like guessing who the guest star is for the first 10 or so seconds. Is it a stupid but funny? Probably L teddy. Does it require thunk work? Probably Raffle 20$ scratcher. You have insane talent to do both.
Disappointed in the lack of Mecha'thun in those decks but excellent video nonetheless. Challenges with Eddy are the best
Zephyr is there no mass aoe silence for own board?
the changes to highlander cards is 100% a buff, since you cant mess with them with decks like plagues
"Just make brann 10 mana at this point"
I mean, he's already guaranteed to be in the bottom 7 cards of your deck-
I think a good nerf to brann would be "for the rest of the game, the first battle cry you play each turn triggers twice"
Wait, Rarran said that if you shuffle cards into your opponent's deck, they don't matter so they can still kill you but they would matter if you shuffle into your own deck.
By that logic, Hakkar would keep Rarran's deck not empty constantly on LtEddysHS's turn so if he would lose due to a Corrupted Blood and NOT fatigue then Rarran would lose because his deck would still have the Corrupted Blood.
I think it was a flawed strategy.
Making shuffled in cards not count was dumb. It took away many interesting deck ideas
Hearthstone but you can’t talk about how you hate demon hunter
1:01 Why not mulligan away Togwaggle's Scheme
suicide has to count as a loss for this ruleset because otherwise you could do it as a reset. idk how you would handle fatigue though because you can use fatigue as damage but also a player could unintentionally die from fatigue from the ruleset itself. So probably should ban fatigue as a win condition and make it so anyone who dies from fatigue loses.
This feels like normal Hearthstone too much. You should do: Hearthstone, But we can't play anything. (First one to Concede of boredom wins)
21:06 is there no aoe silence in the game to unfreez?
have you tried a chaos ( random effects ) kind of game? PURE RNG chaos
What's this whole "that albatross game" thing? I think i've lost it...
Couldn't you hit Eddie's creature with a hero in the last game? technically, you died while he had his card in the deck -> you won
Yeah, you could build a suicide lock or draw yourself out rogue with that idea as well.
I would say no because HE didn't kill you, you killed yourself. Otherwise you could say "Hey, you still have cards...I'm going to Pyroblast my face and win" which would go against the spirit of their rules. It's akin to their agreement that if a player dies to Fatigue while the other player still has cards in their deck, the Fatigue player still loses.
Hearthstone, but you can't have the game installed
Every time you play a card it randomizes your hand.
11:30 bro just hp hit the taunt swipe the giant and kill it with the 1.4
I was expecting dogdog’s mecha’thun druid, probably my all time favorite deck :c
Would be funnier, if you couldn't play a card from your deck, and rely only on 3 cards you kept. Masochism in its natural habitat.
Next April fools should just be Hearthstone but you can't misplay and it would be like done in 3 minutes unless both the players brought really straight forward decks.
Defile is definitely top 10 cards of all time
I'm really suprised no one went for mecha'thun
⭐Please don't allow to shuffle ANYTHING into opponent's deck to make the rules more clear
Listen to the intro next time.
@@xefficient1948
⭐Rarran then didn't watch his own intro cuz he used Blood strategy in the end... And Eddy shuffled Fatigue...
They ALLOW shuffling but then it gets complicated when you shuffle plagues, bloods, fatigues ... and NPCs who try to tell me that I make no sense... (they just didn't count them as real cards)
11:30 rarran had a clear with just swipe and heropowe (would leave a 3/1 on the board). RIP
I wanted to see the Rogue dream, sadhe
I think the rules could be simplified: You only win if your deck is empty and your opponent dies.
So if your deck isn't empty and the game ends, you lose. 2 losers is possible.
Note: "empty" meaning what you said - created cards don't count.
Id love to see a few matches where you can only play cards with the word "random" in it. if its out then ill find it in a few seconds when I search :X
YAY, MY IDEA BECAME A VIDEO!!!!
No Mechathun - no fun.
Barnes wins the most op card every released by a mile
Rip old jailer
Was Mecha'thun banned from this challenge? Because the deck basically makes itself
My suggestions for most powerful cards would be Genn and Baku.
Were neither of you tempted to try mech'cthun?
Actually, plague DK with Helya is a way to play around it.... But well :v
Call it NO LETHAL TIL NO CARDS
What about "Hearthstone but you need exact lethal to kill your opponent"?
Day 25 of asking Rarran to play Library of Ruina
20:54 missed the lethal :((((
Don't play HS anymore, what was Rarran going for in the first clip? (Rouge, 0-1 drops)
what if rarran suicided with an attack into an enemy, while eddy still had cards in his deck ?
I think Blademaster Samuro was disgusting at its time
surprised no one brought Hemet. 6 mana destroy part of your deck. could have been helpful.