Really digging this style of video. The going through some of your personal arrows and their numbers, but also jumping back and forth to instructional fletching... I like it dude. One of my favorite videos yet. Thanks
I think you did a pretty good job talking about the financial side of things. Most of us probably buy affordable factory pre fletched arrows and $40-50 3/pack broad heads. But most of us aren’t able to go into the mountains chasing elk every year. Keep it up.
Yep true story. This is the first year that I am going to try and build my own arrows instead of just buying factory pre fletched with straight blazer 2” vanes.
Last year I hunted with pre fletched pre cut 29” Walmart arrows and broadheads that my buddy had extra packs of, that he no longer used. Still put that arrow through a cow elk. You don’t need 100$ broadheads get what you can afford and focus on form and tuning it.
@@bradythayer7789 to each there own, but i like to know what im using is going to get the job done and not fail. Plus those $100 broad-heads are warrantied, if a bend or break happens iron will will replace those for you. From what i learned iron will spends a lot of time testing their materials and that makes for one tough broad head.
Yeah I was just stating that if you can’t afford iron will there are still options and plenty of them out there that will put down game. Also my friend has iron will’s and he pulled a shot and lost it they didn’t warranty that, so it’s not a guarantee they’re giving you lifetime free replacements. Also he had to buy different arrows to tune the iron wills because he was underspined for them so that’s another 100$. I’m just saying someone on a tight budget can still get a used bow, pre fletched arrows, and some muzzy mx-4’s and go put an elk down. Practice is more important than how many thousand dollars your setup is.
Pro Tip: A q-tip will fit between the jig arms so you can wipe excess glue from the side of the vane before it gets a chance to set. No elk tag for me this year, but I'll be after whitetails, black bear, and hogs here in Georgia this fall/winter. I like standard shafts and standard inserts so I'm going with the Victory VF TKO with a 50 grain Ethics insert and 125 grain heads. I shot two deer with QAD Exodus last year, this year I will have Tooth of the Arrow solids (1" and XL) in my quiver, as well as a Grim Reaper pro 1-3/16 mech and a Sevr 1.5 470 grains at 15% FOC going about 280 FPS.
Actually built my first dozen of arrow yesterday using the Left helical mini-max, elk shape stealth vanes, on Victory XV 300 spine shafts.. I've just returned to archery from a 30 + year break.. I dig all the content y'all create.. Thanks for helping me get rid of some unwanted money! peAce
I'm shooting rip tko 250s,75gr insert with the total arrow weight of 480 grains.I blew threw the 2 deer I shot last year with a 440 grain arrow. I am pumped about these new arrows,and at 301 fps I'm sure they will pack a punch. I have a lot of help having a 31 inch draw length and shooting 73lbs. Love all your input on arrow set ups,keep it coming
Broad heads are now down to two for me. Iron Will and the QAD swept, 125 in both. QAD is back up that I have my grandboys using and incase something happens to my iron wills ( lost or misplaced in air port etc.). X impact 250 31 inch draw, 30 inch arrow 18.2 FOC 510g, 270 fps. Im old so I'm done with my many yr experiment with arrows /broad heads 😎. Just a little note at 75 yrs old I've been WO running, backpacking since I was in my early 20s, none stop. Your on the right track for bow hunting at my age. Don't stop period. Enjoyed video
It’s cool to have options. I didn’t skimp on my bow set up and arrows are no exception. That’s what I like about Ranch Fairy’s arrow kit from Sirius. You’re able to fined out what spine, weight, and FOC shoot best from your bow without breaking the bank.
Great video man! I am just finshing my elk arrows. I am shooting the Black Eagle Rampage 204/5mm .001 my over all arrow weight is 424 grns I am shooting 125 grain RAD MadMan BH. My FOC is 16.7 % I am shooting this arrow right at 283 ftps. I hope this setup gets it done in Montana this year.
I'm shooting RIP TKO V1 with AAE Max Stealth Left Helical with the Goldtip 600 stainless inserts that I learned from you. Thinking of running the Grim Reaper Hades for this season.
Good budget arrow I run is the Victory RIP Elite, three vane helical with AAE Hybrid 26's, 60 grain Victory SS Insert, with a 3-Blade Vented VPA with the standard IP nock. Shoots great and works well. TAW is 444 grains at 28.5"
Awesome video Dan, sweet seeing everything you are picking from. I love the abt I think it's a great mind set, always trying to better yourself is a great way to be
I'm running the Easton axis 5mm standard inserts and 100 grain broadheads. Foc is only 11% at 468 grains. Running 284fps through Chrono. Should work well for whitetails. Wishing I knew a way to remove the inserts so I could replace them with 75 grain halfout.
Nice quick video of your potential arsenal for elk and pronghorn hunts this year. I look forward to watching your future testing of these arrow and broadhead setups. I myself want to finally build my own arrows (albeit for whitetail deer 🦌, but I know that they would crush elk when I finally am able to get a tag 🏷) . So I am actually looking at the Victory ✌🏻 RIP TKO Gamers in 300 spine which are 8.8 gpi and a big drop in gpi from my Carbon Xpress at 11.25 gpi. I have a draw weight of 65 lbs and a 29.5 draw length. I bought a 100 pack of the DCA Custom Super Sabre vanes that I am excited to try. I will offset them 1 or 2 degree left. Not sure on broadhead yet. Shooting for between 475 and 515 grains and a 15 % FOC. I built some Vector arrows for fun and the HMRs have me at 510 grain and the ZMR at 465 with a 125 grain head and 4 fletch. Side note that whitetail/coues with the hat 🧢 is as HEAVY as the arrows that Ranch Fairy sent you.
I think that Paige Pearce posted the best video showing that arrows can leave the same bow turning left or right. A couple may turn left a couple may turn right. It's a grab bag. Clocking doesn't really matter that heavily.
@@TheHorribleOutdoorsman In the spirit of always tinkering I will be going to a left helical and a left single bevel on my next build. Curious to see if anything changes.
Dan, what field points are you running in that .204 gold tip quartersert to make them flush? Building some XV's with the quartersert and it seems that my field points and broadheads hang over quite a bit. I'm shooting Grim Reaper mechanicals too, do yours hang over the insert?
So on your 2021 vid broad head for elk, you mentioned that iron will did not leave a blood trail like the micro hades, were you referring to the double beveled iron will solid or was that the single bevel. just asking because that single bevel tore that bear up and i am really interested in using the single bevel this year for elk.
Hey does anyone know how far the gold tip trad insert sticks out from the carbon of the arrow. If I want my total arrow length to be 27", what should I cut the carbon to? Thoughts?
How do those goldtip trad inserts hold up on hard impacts? Would the carbon mushroom if you accidentally hit a rock or the wooden edge of a homemade bag target? Looking to buy some tko and inserts from your website. TIA
Hey how do you guys like the Easton Titanium Deep six to 8/32 Half-Out inserts? i think I've seen ya'll use them before. I using Ethics Archery components at the moment and thinking of switching to the Eastons.
Love the XVs! Using them as my tac arrow, then victory vaps 4mm as my hunting. The victory vap and easton long range 4mm appear to have the exact same technical parameters.
Great lineup. I'm just an amateur Whitetail guy but I switched to the Sirius Apollos this year and they are simply fantastic. Highly recommend you guys check em out. #ABT
cant speak to ElkShapes specifically, but my Max Stealths come in between 8.8-9.6. The AAE Max Hunters do come in around 7.5 give or take a few tenths.
I put a bunch of RIP XVs threw hell getting ready for TAC this year and they took a lot of a beating. I ended up sticking with them in 300 spine with 100g insert and 100g tips I’m at 425g and 18%. I can’t see any reason to go with anything stronger.
I've been seriously thinking about a setup similar to your arrow build for a while.. Everything I see acts almost as if these are fragile because of the light gpi. Have you had any issues with them breaking? What game animals are you after with this arrow setup?
No hate but this industry has gotten completely out of hand I have no idea how anyone killed animals prior to the internet. In fact I've been watching hunting videos from the early 90s and they pretty much all are blowing straight through animals
Old school alum arrows weighed in at 450-500 easy. With a fixed blade up front a pass threw isn’t hard. The lite fast age of the early 2000s were the end of pass threws
Always like your content but didn’t care for the back and forth between the two videos, just too choppy for me. Transition points didn’t seem natural. Loved the elk footage though, keep tinkering!
Really digging this style of video. The going through some of your personal arrows and their numbers, but also jumping back and forth to instructional fletching... I like it dude. One of my favorite videos yet. Thanks
I think you did a pretty good job talking about the financial side of things. Most of us probably buy affordable factory pre fletched arrows and $40-50 3/pack broad heads. But most of us aren’t able to go into the mountains chasing elk every year. Keep it up.
Yep true story. This is the first year that I am going to try and build my own arrows instead of just buying factory pre fletched with straight blazer 2” vanes.
Last year I hunted with pre fletched pre cut 29” Walmart arrows and broadheads that my buddy had extra packs of, that he no longer used. Still put that arrow through a cow elk. You don’t need 100$ broadheads get what you can afford and focus on form and tuning it.
@@bradythayer7789 to each there own, but i like to know what im using is going to get the job done and not fail. Plus those $100 broad-heads are warrantied, if a bend or break happens iron will will replace those for you. From what i learned iron will spends a lot of time testing their materials and that makes for one tough broad head.
Yeah I was just stating that if you can’t afford iron will there are still options and plenty of them out there that will put down game. Also my friend has iron will’s and he pulled a shot and lost it they didn’t warranty that, so it’s not a guarantee they’re giving you lifetime free replacements. Also he had to buy different arrows to tune the iron wills because he was underspined for them so that’s another 100$. I’m just saying someone on a tight budget can still get a used bow, pre fletched arrows, and some muzzy mx-4’s and go put an elk down. Practice is more important than how many thousand dollars your setup is.
Yeah true. Long ago, we used steel broadheads glued over the end of wooden arrows with candle wax.
They worked fine too.
Archery bull elk in Arizona this September using grim reapers
Shot my 6x6 bull last year with the xtreme velocity 42yds w/ 4 blade grizz trick. zipped thru like butter.
XVs are fireee
Pro Tip: A q-tip will fit between the jig arms so you can wipe excess glue from the side of the vane before it gets a chance to set.
No elk tag for me this year, but I'll be after whitetails, black bear, and hogs here in Georgia this fall/winter. I like standard shafts and standard inserts so I'm going with the Victory VF TKO with a 50 grain Ethics insert and 125 grain heads. I shot two deer with QAD Exodus last year, this year I will have Tooth of the Arrow solids (1" and XL) in my quiver, as well as a Grim Reaper pro 1-3/16 mech and a Sevr 1.5
470 grains at 15% FOC going about 280 FPS.
Actually built my first dozen of arrow yesterday using the Left helical mini-max, elk shape stealth vanes, on Victory XV 300 spine shafts.. I've just returned to archery from a 30 + year break.. I dig all the content y'all create.. Thanks for helping me get rid of some unwanted money! peAce
Running the 4mm Eastons, standard insert, Iron Will solid 125 and IW collar. Great setup. So many options!!
I'm shooting rip tko 250s,75gr insert with the total arrow weight of 480 grains.I blew threw the 2 deer I shot last year with a 440 grain arrow. I am pumped about these new arrows,and at 301 fps I'm sure they will pack a punch. I have a lot of help having a 31 inch draw length and shooting 73lbs. Love all your input on arrow set ups,keep it coming
Broad heads are now down to two for me. Iron Will and the QAD swept, 125 in both. QAD is back up that I have my grandboys using and incase something happens to my iron wills ( lost or misplaced in air port etc.). X impact 250 31 inch draw, 30 inch arrow 18.2 FOC 510g, 270 fps. Im old so I'm done with my many yr experiment with arrows /broad heads 😎. Just a little note at 75 yrs old I've been WO running, backpacking since I was in my early 20s, none stop. Your on the right track for bow hunting at my age. Don't stop period. Enjoyed video
Good job with the editing/style of the video. We all have our Drug and mine is ABT at the work bench and the range.
All credit to Dan for editing this baby - TC
It’s cool to have options. I didn’t skimp on my bow set up and arrows are no exception. That’s what I like about Ranch Fairy’s arrow kit from Sirius. You’re able to fined out what spine, weight, and FOC shoot best from your bow without breaking the bank.
Have you ever messed around with the Easton FMJs?
yes they are awesome, and on the heavier side
Great video man! I am just finshing my elk arrows. I am shooting the Black Eagle Rampage 204/5mm .001 my over all arrow weight is 424 grns I am shooting 125 grain RAD MadMan BH. My FOC is 16.7 % I am shooting this arrow right at 283 ftps. I hope this setup gets it done in Montana this year.
i met the guys from Vector at TAC. shot with them and even got tacos. awesome dudes awesome arrows.
I'm shooting RIP TKO V1 with AAE Max Stealth Left Helical with the Goldtip 600 stainless inserts that I learned from you. Thinking of running the Grim Reaper Hades for this season.
Why don’t you use the Victory XV’s on elk? Super high FOC and light weight flat trajectory for tight pins.
Glad to see more people finding vector custom 👌
Thanks for such an informative videos. I love to see these like specs video!
great info dan
Thanks G
Good budget arrow I run is the Victory RIP Elite, three vane helical with AAE Hybrid 26's, 60 grain Victory SS Insert, with a 3-Blade Vented VPA with the standard IP nock. Shoots great and works well. TAW is 444 grains at 28.5"
Awesome video! I am just starting to get down the rabbit hole of arrow construction…. Definitely love your advice
Awesome video Dan, sweet seeing everything you are picking from. I love the abt I think it's a great mind set, always trying to better yourself is a great way to be
I'm running the Easton axis 5mm standard inserts and 100 grain broadheads. Foc is only 11% at 468 grains. Running 284fps through Chrono. Should work well for whitetails. Wishing I knew a way to remove the inserts so I could replace them with 75 grain halfout.
Take a drill bit to slide into the back of the arrow and whip the arrow so the bit bangs the insert out
Nice quick video of your potential arsenal for elk and pronghorn hunts this year. I look forward to watching your future testing of these arrow and broadhead setups.
I myself want to finally build my own arrows (albeit for whitetail deer 🦌, but I know that they would crush elk when I finally am able to get a tag 🏷) . So I am actually looking at the Victory ✌🏻 RIP TKO Gamers in 300 spine which are 8.8 gpi and a big drop in gpi from my Carbon Xpress at 11.25 gpi. I have a draw weight of 65 lbs and a 29.5 draw length. I bought a 100 pack of the DCA Custom Super Sabre vanes that I am excited to try. I will offset them 1 or 2 degree left. Not sure on broadhead yet. Shooting for between 475 and 515 grains and a 15 % FOC.
I built some Vector arrows for fun and the HMRs have me at 510 grain and the ZMR at 465 with a 125 grain head and 4 fletch.
Side note that whitetail/coues with the hat 🧢 is as HEAVY as the arrows that Ranch Fairy sent you.
What are your thoughts on the X impact?
I think that Paige Pearce posted the best video showing that arrows can leave the same bow turning left or right. A couple may turn left a couple may turn right. It's a grab bag. Clocking doesn't really matter that heavily.
I saw that, when we tested all of our’s went one way.
@@TheHorribleOutdoorsman In the spirit of always tinkering I will be going to a left helical and a left single bevel on my next build. Curious to see if anything changes.
@@ApexPredatorOutdoors we got like 3 left helical Mini Maxes
@@ApexPredatorOutdoors you’re always welcome to use them
@@TheHorribleOutdoorsman Thanks man, I already ordered a bunch of Easy Vanes in Left helical. Just jumped in with both feet!
What spine are your rip tkos and Easton 4mm? 😊
Dan, what field points are you running in that .204 gold tip quartersert to make them flush? Building some XV's with the quartersert and it seems that my field points and broadheads hang over quite a bit. I'm shooting Grim Reaper mechanicals too, do yours hang over the insert?
So on your 2021 vid broad head for elk, you mentioned that iron will did not leave a blood trail like the micro hades, were you referring to the double beveled iron will solid or was that the single bevel. just asking because that single bevel tore that bear up and i am really interested in using the single bevel this year for elk.
Hey bro, if I can, where can I buy your arrow set ups?
I’m the same draw length.
Victory Rip tko 250s stealth vanes 75 grain gold tip insert 125 grain micro hades broadhead is my set up and right around 17% foc
My arrows are lookin sexy with the pink and blue elk shape max stealth vanes👌
Would like to shoot with you guys in Seven Springs Tac
Hey does anyone know how far the gold tip trad insert sticks out from the carbon of the arrow. If I want my total arrow length to be 27", what should I cut the carbon to? Thoughts?
Buy the inserts before you cut the arrows.. approx 1/2”
@@ElkShape Will do thank you!
Great video. Awesome content, can't wait to see you hunt with those. You guys are the best.
Ever looked into or tried annihilator broadheads?
Dan what’s the cut of the actual arrow with a 27inch draw length ?
I have a martin and pse they both clock left
How do those goldtip trad inserts hold up on hard impacts?
Would the carbon mushroom if you accidentally hit a rock or the wooden edge of a homemade bag target?
Looking to buy some tko and inserts from your website.
TIA
How do you line your fix blade with the vanes that are true max left helical
Aligning broadheads to your vanes doesn't matter
45 DAYS!!!
Hey how do you guys like the Easton Titanium Deep six to 8/32 Half-Out inserts? i think I've seen ya'll use them before. I using Ethics Archery components at the moment and thinking of switching to the Eastons.
I have an arrow scraper like that. What do you use to resharpen it?.
Love the XVs! Using them as my tac arrow, then victory vaps 4mm as my hunting. The victory vap and easton long range 4mm appear to have the exact same technical parameters.
ABT! Great content with all the elk seen's! Did you give all those broadheads away with people's orders already?
I love my 650 grizzly stick build with 315 broad heads
Great lineup. I'm just an amateur Whitetail guy but I switched to the Sirius Apollos this year and they are simply fantastic. Highly recommend you guys check em out. #ABT
I do have a question. The elk shape aae max vanes do they really weight 7.5 grains each. I though I saw up to 9.2 somewhere else?
cant speak to ElkShapes specifically, but my Max Stealths come in between 8.8-9.6.
The AAE Max Hunters do come in around 7.5 give or take a few tenths.
I put a bunch of RIP XVs threw hell getting ready for TAC this year and they took a lot of a beating. I ended up sticking with them in 300 spine with 100g insert and 100g tips I’m at 425g and 18%. I can’t see any reason to go with anything stronger.
I've been seriously thinking about a setup similar to your arrow build for a while.. Everything I see acts almost as if these are fragile because of the light gpi. Have you had any issues with them breaking? What game animals are you after with this arrow setup?
No hate but this industry has gotten completely out of hand I have no idea how anyone killed animals prior to the internet. In fact I've been watching hunting videos from the early 90s and they pretty much all are blowing straight through animals
Old school alum arrows weighed in at 450-500 easy. With a fixed blade up front a pass threw isn’t hard. The lite fast age of the early 2000s were the end of pass threws
Solid video.
First Comment! #score
*RANCH FAIRY*
Always like your content but didn’t care for the back and forth between the two videos, just too choppy for me. Transition points didn’t seem natural. Loved the elk footage though, keep tinkering!