Its alright, some people just won't get Mariah's musicality and vision! and be able to appreciate it.. even some of her fans... I felt like we were complaining about songs being short for quite a while... I also think she expected an All I want For Christmas type song which is just 1 song in her Christmas catalogue... but there are a variety of Christmas songs across genres that even she has done!
I'm a full-on lamb but this song didn't do it for me tho. The vocals were amazing but the actual song didn't do much for me. Maybe it will grow on me eventually. It happened to me with a few songs of hers like Babydoll, which is now one of my faves.
@@damhood2033 Personal tastes and preferences aside it is just objectively a phenomenal song. Maybe you're just not into new age RnB Gospel stuff. Mariah keeps up with the times!
You enjoyed the video, you didn't sit there and complain about how it doesn't sound like 90s Mariah, or there wasn't enough belting etc. And you were appreciating her talent as an artist
Georgina did not understand the Baptist church breakdown at all and didn't even try! This is why I respect Lesage Singing so much. He does the work and research.
I appreciate the comment, but this is not true. I was fortunate enough to be recommended to these amazing gospel artists because I am blessed to have a knowledgeable audience.
@@LesageSinging Sure, but you will actually look up a person. Or like in your Ledisi video, the way you appreciate her vocals and textures and your knowledge about the Clark Sisters, etc. Don't sell yourself short, man -- you do the work. It's one thing to watch a recommendation but it's another to appreciate and then go explore on your own. Great job as always.
Interesting video. Vocal coach reacting to another vocal coach reacting to Mariah lol. Your Mariah videos are so in depth and fun. Great analysis as always
You don’t have Kirk Franklin featured in a song without Hearing Kirk Franklin! He will always make his presence known lol Love this video! I appreciate the sensitivity and understanding of the gospel elements. in the song. Mariah has said that she has been greatly inspired by gospel vocalists.
Yo! (no pun intended lol) I am so happy to have discovered your channel because, as a fellow musician, I truly value your focus on the music without bringing your ego into your analysis. I also love how you realize that artistic choices that are not "technically/classically correct" are not necessarily bad, but rather tend to add character to the songs.
I don’t care about lyrics either… In fact, I’ve been training myself to start caring about lyrics, lol. I think you can get the emotions just by listening to the voice.
She irritates me. She has such a small range of music she listens to. It irritates me that she claims to listen to the best singers but hardly reacts to Black r&b singers. When many have the biggest voices. You would never see a Jazmine Sullivan reaction on her page. This is why we appreciate you so much. You are so much more open minded
@@sir3958 exactly Whitney and Mariah are the only ones and she probably doesnt even know Mariah is Black 😭. And I feel like she doesnt give Whitney the respect she deserves.
@@yonsetv5223 i honestly dont even see why she likes Mariah because her taste is so damn bland. Mariah does so many different things with her voice but somehow its enjoyable to her, only when Mariah does it. She probably stans her for her subscribers and for the Mariah following.
when i first saw this video of Honest Vocal Coach i was very disappointed from her reaction. i think this song is a masterpiece. i really liked the blending between Mariah's and Khalid's vocals. his falsetto is so sweet and it suits well in Mariah's voice. i really don't care about the lyrics bc this is not a song like Mariah's Outside, is more fun and i mainly listen to the vocals. seriously, since i found your channel i stopped watching other vocal coaches reactions bc you're just saying anything i need to know from a song. i really like what's you're doing.
Basically she's a white lady saying "I simply don't understand what these black people are saying at all HAHAHA!". Very Karen vibe. She seems to specifically have an issue with Khalid and Kirk (black males) in this video, and literally ignores anything Khalid does vocally other then to critique his diction. She can't seem to accept that a Christmas song can be R&B, and takes issue with the Gospel section... But I have noticed in watching other videos of her's that it kind of seems like she just can't understand certain things about black people singing... I have sensed subtle racism in her critiques before.
please be respectful and/or gentle. Edit: 1) this is not the WWE of vocal coaches. That would be far more interesting and would likely pay more . 2) I mean every word of the first three minutes of this video.
@@CellarDoor1970 Yeah but she didn't LIP in front of one of her idols, it's offensive to say that she would even dare do that during a performance in his honour :)
There is so many things about the song that deserves to be pointed: harmonies, his falsetto, The choir, the dynamics, etc…. And she focused on other things. I like the song! And the way they mixed it!!! Amazing🙏🏼
Some people want to lock Mariah in her pop diva box and are almost immediately turned off by anything she does that is an overt reflection of her African-American heritage, such as r&b, gospel, or hip hop collaborations. This song is literally the Christmas cousin of “My All”, which is one of Mariah’s like 19 number ones. But make it a duet with an obviously Black male partner, coupled with a gospel breakdown, and some people almost immediately tap out or lose interest quickly. Oh and, I think the thing Honest Vocal Coach wasn’t sure about was after the whistle note, Mariah did a vocal run down into her lower register. I love when she goes into the basement (as I call it), but some people only want to hear her belting out high notes and whistles.
Right before she said "I'm not sure about that", she insinuated that Kirk manners looked like a "th*g", someone from the h00dz. She actually made this 🖖🏾 with her hands, but she edited it out. She knew she messed up. And keeps blocking everyone who mentions her attitude. The song is amazing. The 3 of them are amazing. And you did great as well! Love and peace from Brazil! 🇧🇷
Eu me senti mal com a reação dela e sim, tem um subtexto racista, infelizmente. Acho que saiu sem ela se tocar. Essa forma com a mão indica o quê?! (Eu já tinha me sentido mal desde que vi a reação dela assim que saiu)
@@marciopinheiro239 poxa, não fica. Mas acho que ela não fez sem querer não. Ela editou o vídeo e cortou esta parte. Eu vi o original. Ela foi no mínimo maldosa.
I didnt understand what she meant by more christmassy either.... she seemed to really dislike the gospel, or as she called it r&b aspect which made me super excited and got me so hyped when I heard it. I appreciate your reaction a whole lot. Hopefully we will get a live version soon
I don't think she disliked the gospel section as much as she misunderstood specific elements of it. I was ignorant of those very specifics 4 months ago.
6:15 - I love how you notice the vocal details and harmonies and appreciate them so much! You're so right, and layering is Mariah's signature. 8:20 - I didn't have any problem understanding his lyrics and his r&b singing style. This isn't American Bandstand, Georgina lol. The diction is fine and MC sounds very clear. 12:49 - I agree, it wasn't a belt belt, it was more "full voice". I peeped that too. 16:58 - it's both -- she's saying fa la la, and then fall in love. it's a play on words. your ears are fine 19:46 - your subtle head bobs when the beat drop and church started was everything. 19:57 - then the stank "bitter beer" face sent me! YESSSSS feel that good soul music! Meanwhile Georgina is hating it with her nose turned up lol I really love your appreciation for Black Gospel music. Sidebar: Mariah would be so touched by you defending her honor like this. I hope she sees your vids one day.
Ur my absolute favorite! Love everything from ur humor, analysis, sass, and appreciation of Mariah ! All I want is more analysis of Mariah , I just enjoy watching u break down her vocal ability! Thank you for being 100% you!
To be fair. I didn't know of him prior to this video. I want to go on a gospel adventure tomorrow. Is there anyone/videos you'd recommend for him or other legends?
I think that Georgina missed the fact that Mariah didn't intend for this one to be a pop song, but she seemed to critique it based on a pop Christmas song formula she has in her head. I think that's what she means when she says it's not really "Christmasy". A Christmas song with a gospel break makes perfect sense because it's supposed to be about Jesus. What she should have said was that it's not "pop" enough.
I also think its super insulting when someone isnt as familiar with a style and they choose to critique it. There is a way to react to a new style without pretending like they are the expert. You do a great job with that. With looking at the positive and seeing how it can be appealing even if its different from what you are used to
Being a Black person in Black spaces, I forget that other groups of people (especially white people) probably haven’t gone out of their way to experience our styles of music so I suppose it make sense that she would find the preachy bit slightly jarring. Also that’s kind of Kirk’s catch phrase you’ll hear on many songs he’s involved in bc he’s not really a singer (like DJ Khaled).
@@popland1977 if you want to hear "traditional" kirk, listen to his older albums like "the rebirth of kirk franklin or "God's Property from Kirk Franklin's Nu Nation" both of those contain some of his most popular songs. my personal fave is his "Long Live Love" album
I love how detailed your analyses are. As a lamb I really enjoy your Mariah videos. Your reaction videos are the best I've ever come across on RUclips. You deserve a lot more followers.
I like how you were still respectful to Regina while offering critique. I usually like what she has to say, but this video of hers took me aback. I think where Regina misses the point (I'm not talking about her specific reaction to this song but as a whole) is her concept of honesty, and by that, I mean that she sometimes mistakes honesty with having no filter. She needs to understand that it's ok if a specific musical genre is not what she prefers to listen to, rather than bashing the genre-whether it's intentional or unintentional- she can just not listen to it, or focus on what she likes about it and objectively criticize what she doesn't like (her critique was rather subjective in this instance, sadly). To give a completely different example, I personally usually don't like EDM music, except for a couple songs here or there, which is not a reflection of the artistry of EDM musicians, but just my personal taste.
I got a lot of my all vibes from this song, maybe because of the guitar and the tone it sets. Its actually a really nice song. The more I hear it the more i see how beautiful it actually sounds and is. The melody is a true beauty as well.
She’s also listening to the long version and not the radio edit !!! It’s a beautiful radio friendly Christmas song that can actually be played all year long !!! Loves it !!
I don’t care for her. Because one time she was doing a Whitney review and when Whitney was doing her gospel thing she does she was making Googly faces and funny eyes and mocking it. I’m like get this lady outta here ....
I really like his analysis and it’s more on behind the scenes on studio. Mixing, panning and i will give credits to her sound/mixing engineer. Well, it’s all in the hands to the sound engineer to make the singer sounds more amazing
You can't help yourself can you? Them engineers but work really hard on Celines tracks.. literally every one of your comments about Mariah is negative or to discredit her, don't talk got Celine videos to watch?
@@codywalsh2075 I don't know what's wrong with what I’ve said but obviously you're triggered with something. And there’s nothing negative here. Only you lol Anyways...
I honestly don't get when people say they don't understand Khalid's diction... it really was not hard to comprehend even if it was anybody's first time listening to him. I got it just fine! It'd be weird had he done it any other way... His tone is magic on the song!! Mariah knows how to pick her collaborators so well! and Khalid's head voice with Mariah's voice sounded so good !!!
His tone is beautiful, but it's nearly impossible to make out what he's saying at the beginning of the song. I mostly agree with the analysis though that it's more an artifact of the production/mixing rather than just a diction issue.
@@popland1977 i tried paying attention to all of the layers to decipher what he said and got it! It could also be that I am familar with his voice some of his music that makes it easier. But it was definitely not a problem in the song, people are too nitpicky with Mariahs new music
I've seen a few of her videos and maybe I'm slightly triggered, but she reminds me of some of the passive-aggressive UK women I've worked with or experienced growing up here who think their honesty is valid. I don't think she's that comfortable with genres/topics outside her comfort zone and tends to sound dismissive of anything that isn't as pure in technique etc. As long it is considered and isn't damaging it shouldn't matter, it's pop music! The song reminds me of many RnB/Soul Xmas songs from back in the day mixed with contemporary Gospel. We must remember opinions are limited by our level of knowledge and lived/shared experience. :)
Agree with Georgina about Khalid’s diction. It’s not good and it is hard to make out what he’s singing on first listen. I agree it’s not so Christmasy in terms of very standard formulas that pop musicians use in songs.
Before watching this video, just like the female coach, I also thought that it sounded like a Spanish song. I am Latin and lived in Spain for many years.
she didn’t like the fact that kirk franklin was talking 😂 she kinda mocked him and got dragged for it (bc he’s a gospel legend), so she edited that part out.
- omg Georgina should know better how gospel works. - if this ones too long? well it has three versions actually. She can have the 3minute version if she wants to - if it isn't too Christmassy for a "Christmas" song, well its one of the legend thingz when u create something original.
Thank you! I was hoping that someone would react to her video, but I hope you can additionally react to her unedited video. I appreciate your analysis and thinking 👍🏽
This is what Georgina deceptively edited out of the original video before deleting the video entirely a few days after your comparison was uploaded: ruclips.net/video/Iewx7h_ii1g/видео.html What you reacted to was the edited version. The controversy in question here is that she mocked a Black man [Kirk Franklin] by mimicking his mannerisms and saying “it was a bit too much for her.”
I've been shown that clip. It's definitely a yikes. Like I said in the video, it's not my place to be outraged, but I most certainly understand why folks would be. It's disrespectful.
I think its normal not everyone will love the same song but, her tone and facial expressions, to me, indicate she was determined to dislike the song from the start.
I love your reactions to Mariah!!! Well done man! Also, really impressed with your knowledge on various music styles like gospel! Love how you know Le’ Andrea Johnson
What happened? I have been on vacation and didn’t see The Honest Vocal Coaches reaction. I usually catch all of her Mariah reactions. I went to her page, but the video has been taken down? So I’m guessing she must’ve gotten a lot of backlash?
I'm beginning to think that it may have to do with what people are listening on. My headphones are really high quality and I don't miss any of the words. If I listen to it on my phone though, it's very hard to hear.
I appreciate this video and the fact that you know who Le'andria Johnson is. Phenomenal singer. I was disappointed with the Honest Vocal coach's analysis because it highlighted how she really does not know the genre of gospel.
I am a huge Mariah fan and I've been following Georgina for years now. She's a huge Mariah fan too but people need to understand that opinions can diverge. Personally I LOVE the song but I have to agree with Georgina with the diction thing. Sorry, but I didn't get the guys lyrics as well. Either way, Georgina is one of the kindest youtubers I follow. No need to throw shade peeps, chill out ✌
I think that people were more upset because they felt the other artists were snubbed. I don't think that was her intention though and like I said in the video, we are all going to make mistakes.
@@LesageSinging agreed! I really like your channel too, Im just trying not to create "rivalties", if that makes sense. Internet can become nasty really fast 😅 I agreed with the diction too because english is not my native language, Im portuguese and although Im fluent in english, I struggled too. Anyway, I really enjoy your channel and work!
I think what irritates those of us that normally listen to this type of music is her micro-agressions toward Black music and also i think people should listen to consider that maybe its a stylized choice. Ive heard people say the same of Jasmine Sullivan. Like Mariah has been in this business for 30 years, im pretty sure she knows how to enunciate words clearer if she wants to. Same for many professional singers. Sometimes it takes multiple listens or reading the lyrics to pick up on everything. It is what it is.
@@mickey10jb80 what do you mean with black music? People keep creating walls I dont know why.. music is music, period. Sorry but thats what I think, Im not trying to be rude
Mariah’s REAL last name as she herself says it’s NUÑEZ as her grandpa (her dads dad) came straight from Venezuela to the USA and changed his last name from NUÑEZ to a made up last name CAREY to better fit in with society. Her grandpa was Afro Venezuelan and her grandma was black (her dads mom) and Mariah’s mother is Irish. So racially she is I guess Biracial but multi ethnic. Even tho she’s 1/4 black she’s still black. But she’s also Latina and she’s also white. She’s a mixture but she identifies black.
I actually agreed with her. I’m a huge fan of hers. I had the same reaction when I first heard the song but on repeat listens, it was so gd. Definitely fell in love with it. Wished u had reacted to it properly instead pf reacting to her reaction. Love ur videos.
Oooooh!! Does this mean you're gonna give us your amazing, in-depth analysis of some of Mariah's Christmas performances? I'm getting giddy just thinking about it. 2010 ABC Christmas Special. She performs with her mother during O Come All Ye Faithful. Mother sings opera. Mariah is well rested and pregnant with twins. Whistles and belts and gorgeous tone and even thyroid tilts and lightning fast transitions. Intrigued? 😁😁😁😁😁😁😁😁😁😁😁
Ignorance does not equal guilt. No-one needs to apologise for anything they did not do. Or for possible future offences. This proves the problem is not with the individual but with the masses.
Khalid's "indie voice" isn't my thing but he's not hard to understand and I enjoy him in collaborations. I only found your channel in the past week or so and have binged your vids. I've been struct by your respect of black musical artistry. Some other erm non-melanated vocal coaches will hear a run and say "ugh too showy" or "pretty." I've appreciated how you breakdown why it's impactful or difficult. I've gotten a new appreciation for the songs I've grown up with. This song felt in line with "This Christmas" by Donny Hathaway and "Let It Snow" by Boyz II Men, the R&B Christmas slow jam. 💁🏾♂ (Aside, check out Jill Scott's He Loves Me - Live and Rare, you won't regret it)
Guyz, did you saw the video about the guy we really don't know - Luis Fonsi singer of the song Despacito(we don't know this too)? He just said Mariah can't do the VISION OF LOVE vocal run anymore. And even said "It's true" when people around him reacted. How disrespectful 😡
He: “I’m white”
Us: “🤭😱🤭😱”
😂😂
Coming out of left field with that one. I'm sure no one saw it coming
I'm so proud of you for coming out as white I know it was hard 😭👊😩
It's about time I say.
@@LesageSinging a reactor with a good sense of humour 😌
😂😂
God bless!!
🤣😂
Its alright, some people just won't get Mariah's musicality and vision! and be able to appreciate it.. even some of her fans... I felt like we were complaining about songs being short for quite a while...
I also think she expected an All I want For Christmas type song which is just 1 song in her Christmas catalogue... but there are a variety of Christmas songs across genres that even she has done!
I'm a full-on lamb but this song didn't do it for me tho. The vocals were amazing but the actual song didn't do much for me. Maybe it will grow on me eventually. It happened to me with a few songs of hers like Babydoll, which is now one of my faves.
@@damhood2033 Personal tastes and preferences aside it is just objectively a phenomenal song. Maybe you're just not into new age RnB Gospel stuff. Mariah keeps up with the times!
You enjoyed the video, you didn't sit there and complain about how it doesn't sound like 90s Mariah, or there wasn't enough belting etc. And you were appreciating her talent as an artist
Exactly 💯
Literally thank God I said something or he wouldn't have reacted
@@Hoodriah thank you 😌💅
@@Hoodriah Hey lamby. I haven't seen you around lately
@@mezmerized4lifejay654 I had to be hiatus for a bit but I'm back dahhhhlings
Georgina did not understand the Baptist church breakdown at all and didn't even try! This is why I respect Lesage Singing so much. He does the work and research.
I appreciate the comment, but this is not true. I was fortunate enough to be recommended to these amazing gospel artists because I am blessed to have a knowledgeable audience.
@@LesageSinging Sure, but you will actually look up a person. Or like in your Ledisi video, the way you appreciate her vocals and textures and your knowledge about the Clark Sisters, etc. Don't sell yourself short, man -- you do the work. It's one thing to watch a recommendation but it's another to appreciate and then go explore on your own. Great job as always.
@@alexanderjones451 Amen. 🙌🏾The audience may have suggested them but you picked up the baton and ran with it.
@@JamesWilliams exactly!
I heard and understood every word he said
Interesting video. Vocal coach reacting to another vocal coach reacting to Mariah lol. Your Mariah videos are so in depth and fun. Great analysis as always
it was too funny an opportunity not to lol
@@LesageSinging oh we loved it
I was saying that there should be a trend of reactors reacting to reactors and I'm glad to see my favourite lesage leading the way lol
@@kevonh Agreed lol 😋
@@kevonh I legit may do it with Jaron next. I enjoy his work.
Also, I'm not sure if "Regina" (I died lol), The Honest Vocal Coach, knows that Mariah Carey is blaaaack
You don’t have Kirk Franklin featured in a song without Hearing Kirk Franklin! He will always make his presence known lol Love this video! I appreciate the sensitivity and understanding of the gospel elements. in the song. Mariah has said that she has been greatly inspired by gospel vocalists.
Yo! (no pun intended lol) I am so happy to have discovered your channel because, as a fellow musician, I truly value your focus on the music without bringing your ego into your analysis. I also love how you realize that artistic choices that are not "technically/classically correct" are not necessarily bad, but rather tend to add character to the songs.
I don’t care about lyrics either… In fact, I’ve been training myself to start caring about lyrics, lol. I think you can get the emotions just by listening to the voice.
I'm the same! I mostly Pay attention to melodies, harmonies, Tone and phrasing
i had to do the same actually. I started acting classes/shakespeare to help.
i’m exactly the same!!! vocals/melody come first for me
Wow really,?! I've always found that a superb lyric elevates a song to such levels. It's why I enjoy Mariah so much
I have this exact problem, I try to remember stuff when I sing, it's really weird if i try to sing something without even looking at the lyrics
Even in Fly like a bird, there’s a bit of preaching when she performs it at the Grammys
She irritates me. She has such a small range of music she listens to. It irritates me that she claims to listen to the best singers but hardly reacts to Black r&b singers. When many have the biggest voices. You would never see a Jazmine Sullivan reaction on her page. This is why we appreciate you so much. You are so much more open minded
This exactly!!!!
THIS!!!!!! Like the ONLY black artist she constantly reacts to is the Late Whitney and even then when she speaks on her it’s monotone.
She stans Mariah hard in her videos, just watch her "mariah VS" she gives mariah so many wins and its annoying
@@sir3958 exactly Whitney and Mariah are the only ones and she probably doesnt even know Mariah is Black 😭. And I feel like she doesnt give Whitney the respect she deserves.
@@yonsetv5223 i honestly dont even see why she likes Mariah because her taste is so damn bland. Mariah does so many different things with her voice but somehow its enjoyable to her, only when Mariah does it. She probably stans her for her subscribers and for the Mariah following.
You ate the Honest Vocal Coach up! I loved it!!!!
Not the “I’m so white” bby the blk (black) community loves you, you keep it real
when i first saw this video of Honest Vocal Coach i was very disappointed from her reaction. i think this song is a masterpiece. i really liked the blending between Mariah's and Khalid's vocals. his falsetto is so sweet and it suits well in Mariah's voice. i really don't care about the lyrics bc this is not a song like Mariah's Outside, is more fun and i mainly listen to the vocals. seriously, since i found your channel i stopped watching other vocal coaches reactions bc you're just saying anything i need to know from a song. i really like what's you're doing.
Her reaction was awful and very...telling. I'll keep it at "telling".
@@alexanderjones451 no tell more
Basically she's a white lady saying "I simply don't understand what these black people are saying at all HAHAHA!". Very Karen vibe. She seems to specifically have an issue with Khalid and Kirk (black males) in this video, and literally ignores anything Khalid does vocally other then to critique his diction. She can't seem to accept that a Christmas song can be R&B, and takes issue with the Gospel section... But I have noticed in watching other videos of her's that it kind of seems like she just can't understand certain things about black people singing... I have sensed subtle racism in her critiques before.
please be respectful and/or gentle.
Edit:
1) this is not the WWE of vocal coaches. That would be far more interesting and would likely pay more .
2) I mean every word of the first three minutes of this video.
Not the lambs having you react to ANOTHER vocal coach react youtuber!!! We are too freaking extra! I CANNOTTTTT!!!
@@jmele300 😂😂
@@jmele300 its hilarious
@@jmele300 we are Petty 😂
I think this vocal coach is handsome!
The only time she's triggered me more was when she suggested mariah was lipping You and I 🤣
Well You and I performance is dubbed. U can find and undubbed one on yt.
That's because it is dubbed.
Because it’s dubbed so you can see her placement at points doesn’t match the sound.
@@CellarDoor1970 Yeah but she didn't LIP in front of one of her idols, it's offensive to say that she would even dare do that during a performance in his honour :)
@@zaprct oh get over it. Mariah wouldn’t look twice at you.
There is so many things about the song that deserves to be pointed: harmonies, his falsetto, The choir, the dynamics, etc…. And she focused on other things. I like the song! And the way they mixed it!!! Amazing🙏🏼
Some people want to lock Mariah in her pop diva box and are almost immediately turned off by anything she does that is an overt reflection of her African-American heritage, such as r&b, gospel, or hip hop collaborations. This song is literally the Christmas cousin of “My All”, which is one of Mariah’s like 19 number ones. But make it a duet with an obviously Black male partner, coupled with a gospel breakdown, and some people almost immediately tap out or lose interest quickly. Oh and, I think the thing Honest Vocal Coach wasn’t sure about was after the whistle note, Mariah did a vocal run down into her lower register. I love when she goes into the basement (as I call it), but some people only want to hear her belting out high notes and whistles.
Some people are musically racist, and it shows.
Right before she said "I'm not sure about that", she insinuated that Kirk manners looked like a "th*g", someone from the h00dz. She actually made this 🖖🏾 with her hands, but she edited it out. She knew she messed up. And keeps blocking everyone who mentions her attitude.
The song is amazing. The 3 of them are amazing.
And you did great as well!
Love and peace from Brazil! 🇧🇷
Eu me senti mal com a reação dela e sim, tem um subtexto racista, infelizmente. Acho que saiu sem ela se tocar. Essa forma com a mão indica o quê?! (Eu já tinha me sentido mal desde que vi a reação dela assim que saiu)
Eu já entendi, tô bem chateado. Enfim...
@@marciopinheiro239 poxa, não fica. Mas acho que ela não fez sem querer não. Ela editou o vídeo e cortou esta parte. Eu vi o original. Ela foi no mínimo maldosa.
I caught her doing that too
right.. that clip literally went semi-viral on twitter
"i'm so white that my doctor says i'm chronically caucasian" MAN WTF LMAOOOOOOOOO
It's terminal.
I didnt understand what she meant by more christmassy either.... she seemed to really dislike the gospel, or as she called it r&b aspect which made me super excited and got me so hyped when I heard it. I appreciate your reaction a whole lot. Hopefully we will get a live version soon
I don't think she disliked the gospel section as much as she misunderstood specific elements of it. I was ignorant of those very specifics 4 months ago.
6:15 - I love how you notice the vocal details and harmonies and appreciate them so much! You're so right, and layering is Mariah's signature.
8:20 - I didn't have any problem understanding his lyrics and his r&b singing style. This isn't American Bandstand, Georgina lol. The diction is fine and MC sounds very clear.
12:49 - I agree, it wasn't a belt belt, it was more "full voice". I peeped that too.
16:58 - it's both -- she's saying fa la la, and then fall in love. it's a play on words. your ears are fine
19:46 - your subtle head bobs when the beat drop and church started was everything.
19:57 - then the stank "bitter beer" face sent me! YESSSSS feel that good soul music! Meanwhile Georgina is hating it with her nose turned up lol
I really love your appreciation for Black Gospel music.
Sidebar: Mariah would be so touched by you defending her honor like this. I hope she sees your vids one day.
Ur my absolute favorite! Love everything from ur humor, analysis, sass, and appreciation of Mariah ! All I want is more analysis of Mariah , I just enjoy watching u break down her vocal ability! Thank you for being 100% you!
She's not familiar with Kirk Franklin. She thinks he's a rapper. He's a Gospel legend.
To be fair. I didn't know of him prior to this video. I want to go on a gospel adventure tomorrow. Is there anyone/videos you'd recommend for him or other legends?
@@LesageSinging try his Tiny Desk Concert. It’s pretty freakin good
@@LesageSinging STOMP is the song that will be the best introduction. "Stomp"
Tamela Mann started singing with Kurt check out Now behold the Lamb
He has 16 Grammys! That is legendary
For me, Fall in love in christmas is like mariah's hits "my all" and "heavenly"..
I think it sounds like after tonight and my all
"heavenly" a 3x Platinum hit in my mom's car exactly
EXACTLY THIS!!!
It really sounds closer to I Only Wanted 😊
I think that Georgina missed the fact that Mariah didn't intend for this one to be a pop song, but she seemed to critique it based on a pop Christmas song formula she has in her head. I think that's what she means when she says it's not really "Christmasy". A Christmas song with a gospel break makes perfect sense because it's supposed to be about Jesus. What she should have said was that it's not "pop" enough.
The way she edited out the most offensive part around "I'm not sure about that"
I have it on my channel
What was offensive? I watched the entire thing...
@@theoneandonlymariahcarey3020 well people didn't like that she thought kirk was a thug rapper
@@theoneandonlymariahcarey3020 I guess they felt like they profiled him
@@theoneandonlymariahcarey3020 and her teeth
Omg love your reactions fun fact I actually used to watch the honest vocal coach but the moved on to watching you because you go so in depth .
Did no one recognize the beginning guitar lick is "What Child is This?!" If anything it reminded me a bit of classical/renaissance guitar picking...
I also think its super insulting when someone isnt as familiar with a style and they choose to critique it. There is a way to react to a new style without pretending like they are the expert. You do a great job with that. With looking at the positive and seeing how it can be appealing even if its different from what you are used to
Such a perfect comment for Lesage, my thoughts exactly!!
Being a Black person in Black spaces, I forget that other groups of people (especially white people) probably haven’t gone out of their way to experience our styles of music so I suppose it make sense that she would find the preachy bit slightly jarring. Also that’s kind of Kirk’s catch phrase you’ll hear on many songs he’s involved in bc he’s not really a singer (like DJ Khaled).
I actually never heard of him either. What songs would you suggest?
I think you meant Khalid not D.J. Khaled
@@glambert4ever163 So you go around replying to Black people’s comments? That makes you a troll.
@@sonyapeach no, his name is DJ Khaled
@@popland1977 if you want to hear "traditional" kirk, listen to his older albums like "the rebirth of kirk franklin or "God's Property from Kirk Franklin's Nu Nation" both of those contain some of his most popular songs. my personal fave is his "Long Live Love" album
Y'all I can't believe I started this
I just love whenever you're like "Okay, let me demonstrate for y'all"
I love how detailed your analyses are. As a lamb I really enjoy your Mariah videos. Your reaction videos are the best I've ever come across on RUclips. You deserve a lot more followers.
I like how you were still respectful to Regina while offering critique. I usually like what she has to say, but this video of hers took me aback. I think where Regina misses the point (I'm not talking about her specific reaction to this song but as a whole) is her concept of honesty, and by that, I mean that she sometimes mistakes honesty with having no filter. She needs to understand that it's ok if a specific musical genre is not what she prefers to listen to, rather than bashing the genre-whether it's intentional or unintentional- she can just not listen to it, or focus on what she likes about it and objectively criticize what she doesn't like (her critique was rather subjective in this instance, sadly). To give a completely different example, I personally usually don't like EDM music, except for a couple songs here or there, which is not a reflection of the artistry of EDM musicians, but just my personal taste.
I got a lot of my all vibes from this song, maybe because of the guitar and the tone it sets. Its actually a really nice song. The more I hear it the more i see how beautiful it actually sounds and is. The melody is a true beauty as well.
It has latin acoustics. That's why
I love the melody for this line "Fa-la-la, fall in love, just this season
Don't forget there's a reason". The harmony as well!!
Great vid as always! And I’m happy that you respect the culture.
She’s also listening to the long version and not the radio edit !!! It’s a beautiful radio friendly Christmas song that can actually be played all year long !!! Loves it !!
So glad you addressed this!!!
I started disliking the honest vocal coach after she reacted to Chloe x Halle do it live and saying stuff about it
Look what's she said on my channel 👀👀
Yeah that reaction also pissed me off to the max and she never bothered to do a diff reaction
@@ninazenik Yeah she also seems to dislike her growls 😫💀
Lesage always back up what he’s says with evidence. He’s the best vocal coach when it comes to analyzing, and talking about the actual VOCALS.
She talks about whistles a lot because she knows that we Mariah Fans are like obsessed with her whistles 😆😆😆😆
So she’s just clever
Lol thats the only thing she cares about
The "OK budget" 🤣 😂 🤣 I'm dead 😂 🤣 😂
But wait Mariah has done something like this before Fly like a bird with the pastor preaching in the middle of the song.
But his diction was clear and powerful. The guy in FILAC wasnt.
I don’t care for her. Because one time she was doing a Whitney review and when Whitney was doing her gospel thing she does she was making Googly faces and funny eyes and mocking it. I’m like get this lady outta here ....
I really like his analysis and it’s more on behind the scenes on studio. Mixing, panning and i will give credits to her sound/mixing engineer. Well, it’s all in the hands to the sound engineer to make the singer sounds more amazing
You can't help yourself can you? Them engineers but work really hard on Celines tracks.. literally every one of your comments about Mariah is negative or to discredit her, don't talk got Celine videos to watch?
@@codywalsh2075 I don't know what's wrong with what I’ve said but obviously you're triggered with something. And there’s nothing negative here. Only you lol Anyways...
@@JohnDeLeon28 looks like cody is crazy 😆
@jjarchibald2926
Yeah, he is.
Ha ha, I was hearing “fall in love” the entire time.
They sing both. That's one of the parts I can actually tell what they're singing.
This sounds like an interesting video concept of "Reaction Battle" lol! Would not mind watching more! Aside from the drama lmao
I thought the video was respectful. I spent two days trying to make it so.
@@LesageSinging It was! Sorry I meant more so the drama surrounding the viewer’s reaction to the other vocal coach’s video.
@@LesageSinging Yes but you know, most of the people lives for youtube drama lol
I think you can appreciate Gospel and still appreciate enunciation. Understanding the lyrics are important
100%
"im white"...well that's a new way of coming out
As a black man I had no clue Kirk was a rapper 😭 like sis WHAT ????
I really appreciate your analysis.. As always.. 🤟🏼
But dude, every time Georgina speaks, your face says it all.. 😂😂😂😂
Can’t wait to dive into this! 🔥
I love the way you slay her in a subtle way😊🙌🏻
THE SONG MARIAH STATED WAS INSPRIRED BY GREENSLEAVES A REED)
That's what I thought I heard in the beginning. I forgot the name of the piece, thanks!
Actually they do sing fa la la the first time but the second time they sing fall in lav (modified the vowels)
Awesome I am subscribed to both of you guys ! I love this
This was a great vid, I appreciate how knowledgeable and open-minded you are when it comes to music and you’re adorable!!
I honestly don't get when people say they don't understand Khalid's diction... it really was not hard to comprehend even if it was anybody's first time listening to him. I got it just fine! It'd be weird had he done it any other way...
His tone is magic on the song!! Mariah knows how to pick her collaborators so well! and Khalid's head voice with Mariah's voice sounded so good !!!
well his diction is loose… not as bad as Ariana grande but its not perfect… but it is just his preference style of singing
His tone is beautiful, but it's nearly impossible to make out what he's saying at the beginning of the song. I mostly agree with the analysis though that it's more an artifact of the production/mixing rather than just a diction issue.
@@dereklong7757 right. Also, after listening to Mariah's fierce strict diction, he sounded even more loose. This is why I only listen to Mariah.
I honestly couldn't make out much of what he said without reading the lyrics
@@popland1977 i tried paying attention to all of the layers to decipher what he said and got it! It could also be that I am familar with his voice some of his music that makes it easier. But it was definitely not a problem in the song, people are too nitpicky with Mariahs new music
I've seen a few of her videos and maybe I'm slightly triggered, but she reminds me of some of the passive-aggressive UK women I've worked with or experienced growing up here who think their honesty is valid. I don't think she's that comfortable with genres/topics outside her comfort zone and tends to sound dismissive of anything that isn't as pure in technique etc. As long it is considered and isn't damaging it shouldn't matter, it's pop music! The song reminds me of many RnB/Soul Xmas songs from back in the day mixed with contemporary Gospel. We must remember opinions are limited by our level of knowledge and lived/shared experience. :)
This is a mixing lesson in 1. Thanks for the education. Everything's a tool to learn.
She’s always been so close-minded to other genres in my opinion which is crazy cause she can barely sing herself
This!
I am team Lesage! Keep the battle on
Me too about not listening to lyrics and focusing more on tone (and background music)
Agree with Georgina about Khalid’s diction. It’s not good and it is hard to make out what he’s singing on first listen.
I agree it’s not so Christmasy in terms of very standard formulas that pop musicians use in songs.
Before watching this video, just like the female coach, I also thought that it sounded like a Spanish song. I am Latin and lived in Spain for many years.
she didn’t like the fact that kirk franklin was talking 😂 she kinda mocked him and got dragged for it (bc he’s a gospel legend), so she edited that part out.
I imagine she is learning from it. I have made many many embarrassing mistakes/remarks.
- omg Georgina should know better how gospel works.
- if this ones too long? well it has three versions actually. She can have the 3minute version if she wants to
- if it isn't too Christmassy for a "Christmas" song, well its one of the legend thingz when u create something original.
Thank you!
I was hoping that someone would react to her video, but I hope you can additionally react to her unedited video.
I appreciate your analysis and thinking 👍🏽
Omgggggg the intro had me SCREAMING 😂😂 I love you so much ❤️❤️❤️❤️
This is what Georgina deceptively edited out of the original video before deleting the video entirely a few days after your comparison was uploaded:
ruclips.net/video/Iewx7h_ii1g/видео.html
What you reacted to was the edited version. The controversy in question here is that she mocked a Black man [Kirk Franklin] by mimicking his mannerisms and saying “it was a bit too much for her.”
I've been shown that clip. It's definitely a yikes. Like I said in the video, it's not my place to be outraged, but I most certainly understand why folks would be. It's disrespectful.
Your disclaimer in the beginning caught me off guard 😂😂 To bad youtube doesn't have reaction buttons besides the like and dislike option.
I think its normal not everyone will love the same song but, her tone and facial expressions, to me, indicate she was determined to dislike the song from the start.
In Mariah’s cover of Can’t give up now by: Mary2x and also wish you well have bit lf a preaching. Mariah loves gospel music.
I remember when she diss Chloe x Halle vocals and I know it hurt her to react to Halle Disney video.
I love your reactions to Mariah!!! Well done man! Also, really impressed with your knowledge on various music styles like gospel! Love how you know Le’ Andrea Johnson
Yesss you ended her 👏🏾👏🏾 but I love your videos especially when you go into the specifics on how artists sing.
You are my new favorite coach. Thank you. 🥰
Wasn't ready for that intro. Inhaled my coffee.
What happened? I have been on vacation and didn’t see The Honest Vocal Coaches reaction. I usually catch all of her Mariah reactions. I went to her page, but the video has been taken down? So I’m guessing she must’ve gotten a lot of backlash?
She was slightly dismissive of one of the artists featured in the video. I don't wish her any ill will and I'm sure she will ultimately be fine.
I agree with the diction part tho. He could have enunciated a bit more, but also needed to open the vowel sounds up
I'm beginning to think that it may have to do with what people are listening on. My headphones are really high quality and I don't miss any of the words.
If I listen to it on my phone though, it's very hard to hear.
10:26 YOUR EXPRESSION😭
I appreciate this video and the fact that you know who Le'andria Johnson is. Phenomenal singer. I was disappointed with the Honest Vocal coach's analysis because it highlighted how she really does not know the genre of gospel.
MARIAH FOREVERRRR. Love this reaction!
I am a huge Mariah fan and I've been following Georgina for years now.
She's a huge Mariah fan too but people need to understand that opinions can diverge.
Personally I LOVE the song but I have to agree with Georgina with the diction thing.
Sorry, but I didn't get the guys lyrics as well.
Either way, Georgina is one of the kindest youtubers I follow. No need to throw shade peeps, chill out ✌
Agreed!!
I think that people were more upset because they felt the other artists were snubbed. I don't think that was her intention though and like I said in the video, we are all going to make mistakes.
@@LesageSinging agreed! I really like your channel too, Im just trying not to create "rivalties", if that makes sense. Internet can become nasty really fast 😅
I agreed with the diction too because english is not my native language, Im portuguese and although Im fluent in english, I struggled too.
Anyway, I really enjoy your channel and work!
I think what irritates those of us that normally listen to this type of music is her micro-agressions toward Black music and also i think people should listen to consider that maybe its a stylized choice. Ive heard people say the same of Jasmine Sullivan. Like Mariah has been in this business for 30 years, im pretty sure she knows how to enunciate words clearer if she wants to. Same for many professional singers. Sometimes it takes multiple listens or reading the lyrics to pick up on everything. It is what it is.
@@mickey10jb80 what do you mean with black music? People keep creating walls I dont know why.. music is music, period. Sorry but thats what I think, Im not trying to be rude
shaking the table
I thought the intro made it kosher.
Mariah’s REAL last name as she herself says it’s NUÑEZ as her grandpa (her dads dad) came straight from Venezuela to the USA and changed his last name from NUÑEZ to a made up last name CAREY to better fit in with society. Her grandpa was Afro Venezuelan and her grandma was black (her dads mom) and Mariah’s mother is Irish. So racially she is I guess Biracial but multi ethnic. Even tho she’s 1/4 black she’s still black. But she’s also Latina and she’s also white. She’s a mixture but she identifies black.
What is “Latina”? That is not a race. Genetically she’s black and white. So she’s right to identify herself as a beautiful strong black woman 💖
I actually agreed with her. I’m a huge fan of hers. I had the same reaction when I first heard the song but on repeat listens, it was so gd. Definitely fell in love with it. Wished u had reacted to it properly instead pf reacting to her reaction. Love ur videos.
I do have my individual reaction. I'm just not posting twice a day anymore.
She mentioned it sounds like spanish because the song soundsnlike Mariah's "My All"
Oooooh!! Does this mean you're gonna give us your amazing, in-depth analysis of some of Mariah's Christmas performances? I'm getting giddy just thinking about it.
2010 ABC Christmas Special. She performs with her mother during O Come All Ye Faithful. Mother sings opera. Mariah is well rested and pregnant with twins. Whistles and belts and gorgeous tone and even thyroid tilts and lightning fast transitions.
Intrigued? 😁😁😁😁😁😁😁😁😁😁😁
For Me, I prefer Mariah's buttery tone than the lyrics of the song
Ignorance does not equal guilt. No-one needs to apologise for anything they did not do. Or for possible future offences. This proves the problem is not with the individual but with the masses.
Sorry for the multiple comments, I'm commenting as I go along
Khalid's "indie voice" isn't my thing but he's not hard to understand and I enjoy him in collaborations. I only found your channel in the past week or so and have binged your vids. I've been struct by your respect of black musical artistry. Some other erm non-melanated vocal coaches will hear a run and say "ugh too showy" or "pretty." I've appreciated how you breakdown why it's impactful or difficult. I've gotten a new appreciation for the songs I've grown up with.
This song felt in line with "This Christmas" by Donny Hathaway and "Let It Snow" by Boyz II Men, the R&B Christmas slow jam. 💁🏾♂
(Aside, check out Jill Scott's He Loves Me - Live and Rare, you won't regret it)
Guyz, did you saw the video about the guy we really don't know - Luis Fonsi singer of the song Despacito(we don't know this too)?
He just said Mariah can't do the VISION OF LOVE vocal run anymore. And even said "It's true" when people around him reacted. How disrespectful 😡
Every word of the lyrics is actually clear
She will always lose interest in an R&B song if she thought that was too long. You are right Lesage.
You roasted her 😭 desurv 💅💅💅