If you really slow down the scene where the VW Beetle is coming down the road, if you can pause it at the right moment you can see into the VW Beetle and it’s Charlie that is driving and Mel is in the passenger side and Coraline is in the back seat. Unless their shadows in the car say otherwise. 🤷🏻♀️ I could be wrong.
I thought it was Charlie too but it is indeed Mel - it is set in the US and the driver sits on the left hand side. Which is where Mel is sitting. I could be wrong though, and since I live in the UK (where the novel is set) we have the drivers on the right. It's a bit confusing!
@@elliewilliams1137Also, the other mother suggests does Coraline want some more chicken. I thought it was turkey, too, though for some reason! Possibly because of how fancy it looks!
Is it possible the creature watching Coraline are the mutiple mice? It could be different mice spying for the belldam. Making them extra eyes and ears for the belldam.
Considering Ms sphinx and Ms forcible tend to be overly flirtatious and just a little… much lol I would think her waving like that maybe made the mover a little uncomfortable and nearly dropped the boxes. It’s like if a weird old person tries to flirt with you using gestures and all u can do is pretend not to notice because it’s just too uncomfortable
omg and the abandoned apple orchard literally further proves the theory that coraline is still stuck in some kind of limbo after 'escaping' the other mother because the withered apple trees are suddenly fully bloomed blossom trees when she leaves the other mother and discards her hand in the well idk ive never even like thought about the trees randomly being at bloom
Oh yes! I did a theory on that years and years ago now that that is the definitive proof that she's trapped, in my opinion (especially since it's FEBRUARY in the movie opening). I'm trying not to talk ahead too much for the scene I'm in, but I cannot wait to do a mic drop when those trees are blooming at the end!
The fact that some of the bushels on the wagon had fruit in them is the real concerning part. So, they were MID harvest and just left in a hurry and never returned.
I never noticed it either until I was scanning extra hard for details this watch. And I’m not 100% positive it IS a rat and not 2 rotten apples, but it seems to move on its own beyond the bump, almost like it’s trying to take the apples and run.
Do you remember your video about Shrek on what the point was to lock Fiona in a tower? With what you said about her being a “fragile, grateful to be abused woman with no idea on what Love looks like” and “letting Prince Charming rule her kingdom”? Well, would she have been like that with Lord Farquaad in Shrek 1 if he married her successfully?
Debatable. We see her behavior quickly get masked around Farquad, so she would have likely been subdued - but since he didn’t directly save her and she had interactions with Shrek and Donkey, that potentially changed the level of jaded that she was.
I believe that I was also able to spot an additional detail in the scenography, which could be indicative of Mr. Bobinsky's character origin. If you look closely in the fragment of the scene/still-shot in which Mr. Bobinsky is excersising right next to the chimeny, you can see that the smoke that is released from it seems to form the shape of the Universal Symbol of Radioactivity, which could be a clever and subtle hint at him having been a part of the Chernobyl clean-up/rescue effort, however this could be subjective; as it also seems to form the shape of a grimacing or screaming face. Another detail that I was able to catch; was that if you look closely in the part of the scene in which Coraline collects the branch that she uses as a dowsing rod from the Poisoned Oak bush and the gates open, you can tell that the branches that are facing the direction of the cobblestone staircase are in the shape of the Beldam's hands and as Coraline starts to leave the frame, the aforementioned branches brush her clothing slightly; simulating that they were almost compelled to grab her by her hood and perhaps drag her. This is such a tremendously detailed and wonderfully deep adaptation.
You know that greenhouse also really reminds me of some bird aviaries from Victorian era It's kind of odd that they have an apple orchard, a garden and a greenhouse
Yeah, I would love a panned back shot of the entire property. I’m not sure if the orchard is a separate business or if the original owners just wanted to make good use of that hillside, but it is very strange and eerie - not to mention, difficult for anyone else to get to from what we can tell!
@@TheFangirlWatches yes that whole orchid is very strange. it almost reminds me of a colour out of space an HP love craft story about aliens that are about of weird bright colours nobody has seen before. And they infect the well water of a farm and passion the food and people basically start melting. And now that think about it the Belldame's layer is very colourful compared to Coraline's home
Loving these breakdowns. I wonder if the orchard was abandoned because the other mother stole the people who worked there into the other world with her.
Oh that's an interesting idea! I would have assumed it was connected to the Sweet Ghost Girl disappearing, but, then... would any rotted apples still be in baskets 60+ years later..? 🤔
@@TheFangirlWatches I live in northern Croatia, which has a similar climate to Ashland. I've seen rotten apples linger on the ground several months after going out of season, but definitely not several decades, much less still attached to the tree. Additionally, the apples don't really look rotten, they look as if they were rapidly burnt to a crisp. Come to think of it, the whole orchard resembles a patch of land recovering from a recent fire.
The abandonned tractor left out could point to a more bengin reality-I've been around old farm country before, and you do sometimes see big, "valuable" equipment like that get left out for no real reason other than whoever lives nearby were too old or too lazy to do anything else with it. Especially if they don't absolutely _need_ to get rid of it, either for the money or the space. I would argue the more "concerning" element about what was left behind is whatever rolls out of the baskets-If it's fruit, it's rolling around as if it's fairly fresh, not rotten and been sitting there for longer than _maybe_ a couple of months at the absolute most. So either there's a question of how fresh-ish food got out there in those baskets, or it's something else entirely that would keep form over time. I suppose the simplest explanation is it could have been fake fruit used as display for the orchard when it was well-kept, which wouldn't rot and could've been left out there haphazardly like the tractor-and would make the baskets easier to jostle than real fruit-but I do wonder if there's more to it than that.
@@TheFangirlWatches so interesting.. so many small details. The double o crossed in welcome home on the cake always caught my eye too, the idea that she's welcome but she's not home. I stumbled upon your pink palace limbo theory several years back and the small details like those definitely hint towards it further
I can’t believe this is LITERALLY a whole series of a shot by shot breakdown. I love feeding into my low-key obsession I can’t wait to watch all the videos on this playlist 🤌🏾🤌🏾🤌🏾
I never did on any other viewing - and I’m still not 100% positive that that’s why it is, but there does seem to be some motion that goes beyond the cart being bumped.
6:38 there was something moving behind the curtains, idk know what it was, if corallines family already was in the house,, but maybe this was what scared the man and why he frightened
He could have done a head nod or something to acknowledge her politely - said “good morning” even. It’s more to the point that it makes no sense for him to be disgusted by an old lady. She wasn’t dropping down her bra strap hitting on him.
I think the whole point with coralline didn’t stop to think that’s why she didn’t notice she’s holding a poison oak branch is so ironic. Bc the reason why the movie happened is bc she didn’t think that a tunnel that just a few hours ago was bricked up isn’t at all strange and to no go through and to get her parents.
If you notice when you first see the garden behind Coraline it looks like the Beldam, you see this again at the very end of the movie as the camera zooms out. Whereas in the other world, the garden is made to look like Coraline by the Beldam. Has anyone else noticed that?
I can’t remember where it is but what if they got into an accident and died. That’s why the mother has a neck brace she that she may have gotten. Also that would be why there is like nothing in the house and Coralines hair is blue. They think they are alive. I don’t know but maybe
I was thinking maybe the Lovat family abandoned the orchard in search of their missing daughter. They never continued to work because the search never stopped.
It would make sense, but the farm equipment seems older than the 60s era to me (although, I guess it’s fair that they could have purchased older equipment at a lower price).
I love your content expcially coraline can you please do a video on what the other mother would do if a child moved into the pink palace without a mother for example if the child had a single father, gay fathers or if the child was an orphan! I am really curious about this and I know you can come up with a great explanation
Great one! The orchard is an area I wish we would have explored more but honestly now that you have pointed it out.. I can’t stop thinking about that green house lol Excited for the next one!!
5:28 Actually there is still another apartment, when Coraline and her mom are driving home Coraline asks "so what do you think is in the other apartment?"
@@TheFangirlWatches if I remember the quote exactly it’s: Coraline: “so what do you think is in the other apartment?” Mel: “I don’t know; not a family of Jones imposters”
5:08
I believe on the right side of the truck it says stop motion rulz, but that may have been obvious
If you really slow down the scene where the VW Beetle is coming down the road, if you can pause it at the right moment you can see into the VW Beetle and it’s Charlie that is driving and Mel is in the passenger side and Coraline is in the back seat. Unless their shadows in the car say otherwise. 🤷🏻♀️ I could be wrong.
I thought it was Charlie too but it is indeed Mel - it is set in the US and the driver sits on the left hand side. Which is where Mel is sitting. I could be wrong though, and since I live in the UK (where the novel is set) we have the drivers on the right. It's a bit confusing!
@@phoebevaughan5095the film is set in the US and the driver is on the left side
They all started talking to each other at the end of the movie
But that is at the end of the movie, and I have very different theories for that last scene lol
The reason I remember that it was turkey they ate was because of the turkey breast joke other father made😂😂
He said chicken breast not turkey breast
@@elliewilliams1137Also, the other mother suggests does Coraline want some more chicken. I thought it was turkey, too, though for some reason! Possibly because of how fancy it looks!
Yes the actual meal was chicken ( not turkey) but the other mother actually didnt eat anything
Is it possible the creature watching Coraline are the mutiple mice? It could be different mice spying for the belldam. Making them extra eyes and ears for the belldam.
That's a very good point! Especially if that IS a rat/mouse leaving the basket!
Is they're going to be a compilation. You've gone to the whole movie?
Right now there’s going to be a whole playlist, but we’ll see if I can muster up the ability to upload a 6 hour long video lol
@@TheFangirlWatches I'd watch that😁 your just so observant
watched til the end :) so excited to watch the rest
Answer to the Question: D, nothing.
Thank you for this new series!!!
That’s Taylor swift pic at the end took me out 😂💕
At 16:43, if you zoom in really close you can see that mel jones is in the passenger seat didnt see this on my first watch through of the series
The Other Mother ate nothing, cause she doesn't eat people food but spider food and fairy witch food (children).
Considering Ms sphinx and Ms forcible tend to be overly flirtatious and just a little… much lol I would think her waving like that maybe made the mover a little uncomfortable and nearly dropped the boxes. It’s like if a weird old person tries to flirt with you using gestures and all u can do is pretend not to notice because it’s just too uncomfortable
omg and the abandoned apple orchard literally further proves the theory that coraline is still stuck in some kind of limbo after 'escaping' the other mother because the withered apple trees are suddenly fully bloomed blossom trees when she leaves the other mother and discards her hand in the well idk ive never even like thought about the trees randomly being at bloom
Oh yes! I did a theory on that years and years ago now that that is the definitive proof that she's trapped, in my opinion (especially since it's FEBRUARY in the movie opening). I'm trying not to talk ahead too much for the scene I'm in, but I cannot wait to do a mic drop when those trees are blooming at the end!
Love your channel and Coraline videos. I’ve watched them several times over 🩵🐈⬛ Happy you did a scene by scene analysis
Glad you like them!
I never noticed the rat!! Or the fact that the orchard was seemingly abandoned in a hurry
The fact that some of the bushels on the wagon had fruit in them is the real concerning part. So, they were MID harvest and just left in a hurry and never returned.
I didn't notice that no one interacted with the tenants. That makes the movie even more spooky 👀
Thank you! lol that’s been such a big comment I’ve seen over the years, but they really don’t have anyone acknowledge them during that entire scene!
Love coraline and Been WatchingThe FanGirl For 7 Years
Thank you so much!
@@TheFangirlWatches yes!!!!
Wait a minute. I did not see that rat at ALL during this scene. Woah
I never noticed it either until I was scanning extra hard for details this watch. And I’m not 100% positive it IS a rat and not 2 rotten apples, but it seems to move on its own beyond the bump, almost like it’s trying to take the apples and run.
Do you remember your video about Shrek on what the point was to lock Fiona in a tower? With what you said about her being a “fragile, grateful to be abused woman with no idea on what Love looks like” and “letting Prince Charming rule her kingdom”? Well, would she have been like that with Lord Farquaad in Shrek 1 if he married her successfully?
Debatable. We see her behavior quickly get masked around Farquad, so she would have likely been subdued - but since he didn’t directly save her and she had interactions with Shrek and Donkey, that potentially changed the level of jaded that she was.
I believe that I was also able to spot an additional detail in the scenography, which could be indicative of Mr. Bobinsky's character origin. If you look closely in the fragment of the scene/still-shot in which Mr. Bobinsky is excersising right next to the chimeny, you can see that the smoke that is released from it seems to form the shape of the Universal Symbol of Radioactivity, which could be a clever and subtle hint at him having been a part of the Chernobyl clean-up/rescue effort, however this could be subjective; as it also seems to form the shape of a grimacing or screaming face. Another detail that I was able to catch; was that if you look closely in the part of the scene in which Coraline collects the branch that she uses as a dowsing rod from the Poisoned Oak bush and the gates open, you can tell that the branches that are facing the direction of the cobblestone staircase are in the shape of the Beldam's hands and as Coraline starts to leave the frame, the aforementioned branches brush her clothing slightly; simulating that they were almost compelled to grab her by her hood and perhaps drag her. This is such a tremendously detailed and wonderfully deep adaptation.
You know that greenhouse also really reminds me of some bird aviaries from Victorian era
It's kind of odd that they have an apple orchard, a garden and a greenhouse
Yeah, I would love a panned back shot of the entire property. I’m not sure if the orchard is a separate business or if the original owners just wanted to make good use of that hillside, but it is very strange and eerie - not to mention, difficult for anyone else to get to from what we can tell!
@@TheFangirlWatches yes that whole orchid is very strange. it almost reminds me of a colour out of space an HP love craft story about aliens that are about of weird bright colours nobody has seen before. And they infect the well water of a farm and passion the food and people basically start melting. And now that think about it the Belldame's layer is very colourful compared to Coraline's home
Loving these breakdowns. I wonder if the orchard was abandoned because the other mother stole the people who worked there into the other world with her.
Oh that's an interesting idea! I would have assumed it was connected to the Sweet Ghost Girl disappearing, but, then... would any rotted apples still be in baskets 60+ years later..? 🤔
@@TheFangirlWatches I live in northern Croatia, which has a similar climate to Ashland. I've seen rotten apples linger on the ground several months after going out of season, but definitely not several decades, much less still attached to the tree. Additionally, the apples don't really look rotten, they look as if they were rapidly burnt to a crisp. Come to think of it, the whole orchard resembles a patch of land recovering from a recent fire.
8:05
I believe that the mom is driving, based on the shape of the mom and dads head in the car.
BOOST THE ALGORITHM 2
The abandonned tractor left out could point to a more bengin reality-I've been around old farm country before, and you do sometimes see big, "valuable" equipment like that get left out for no real reason other than whoever lives nearby were too old or too lazy to do anything else with it. Especially if they don't absolutely _need_ to get rid of it, either for the money or the space.
I would argue the more "concerning" element about what was left behind is whatever rolls out of the baskets-If it's fruit, it's rolling around as if it's fairly fresh, not rotten and been sitting there for longer than _maybe_ a couple of months at the absolute most. So either there's a question of how fresh-ish food got out there in those baskets, or it's something else entirely that would keep form over time.
I suppose the simplest explanation is it could have been fake fruit used as display for the orchard when it was well-kept, which wouldn't rot and could've been left out there haphazardly like the tractor-and would make the baskets easier to jostle than real fruit-but I do wonder if there's more to it than that.
Like honestly I think they might be Dead to like really
Black cat cross your path? hmph.. I wonder if there’s anything to support that superstition here. Good video
But that is the weird thing - the black cat HAS to have crossed Coraline’s path in some form, but he never does it on screen. He stalks her.
@@TheFangirlWatches so interesting.. so many small details. The double o crossed in welcome home on the cake always caught my eye too, the idea that she's welcome but she's not home. I stumbled upon your pink palace limbo theory several years back and the small details like those definitely hint towards it further
made it to the end. love this so much keep the awesome videos coming. xx
So glad to hear you enjoyed enough to get to the end! :D
12:17 But the house we see in the bg with the black roof is the pink palace so isn't she running towards her house?
First and d nothing
Thank you for your speed
I can’t believe this is LITERALLY a whole series of a shot by shot breakdown. I love feeding into my low-key obsession I can’t wait to watch all the videos on this playlist 🤌🏾🤌🏾🤌🏾
I didn't even notice the rat
I never did on any other viewing - and I’m still not 100% positive that that’s why it is, but there does seem to be some motion that goes beyond the cart being bumped.
@@TheFangirlWatches oh interesting
9:08 it's still Coraline's face
6:38
there was something moving behind the curtains, idk know what it was, if corallines family already was in the house,, but maybe this was what scared the man and why he frightened
i think it’s the movers reflection
@@princesspearl9131 yes...probably, looks like it hehe thank you
6:45
How is the mover supposed to wave with holding all these boxes,
He could have done a head nod or something to acknowledge her politely - said “good morning” even. It’s more to the point that it makes no sense for him to be disgusted by an old lady. She wasn’t dropping down her bra strap hitting on him.
I think the whole point with coralline didn’t stop to think that’s why she didn’t notice she’s holding a poison oak branch is so ironic. Bc the reason why the movie happened is bc she didn’t think that a tunnel that just a few hours ago was bricked up isn’t at all strange and to no go through and to get her parents.
I made it to the end!😁
Yay!
If you notice when you first see the garden behind Coraline it looks like the Beldam, you see this again at the very end of the movie as the camera zooms out. Whereas in the other world, the garden is made to look like Coraline by the Beldam. Has anyone else noticed that?
I can’t remember where it is but what if they got into an accident and died. That’s why the mother has a neck brace she that she may have gotten. Also that would be why there is like nothing in the house and Coralines hair is blue. They think they are alive. I don’t know but maybe
obviously nothing.
Hey I made it to the end!
I was thinking maybe the Lovat family abandoned the orchard in search of their missing daughter. They never continued to work because the search never stopped.
It would make sense, but the farm equipment seems older than the 60s era to me (although, I guess it’s fair that they could have purchased older equipment at a lower price).
I love your content expcially coraline can you please do a video on what the other mother would do if a child moved into the pink palace without a mother for example if the child had a single father, gay fathers or if the child was an orphan! I am really curious about this and I know you can come up with a great explanation
Great one! The orchard is an area I wish we would have explored more but honestly now that you have pointed it out.. I can’t stop thinking about that green house lol
Excited for the next one!!
I love this series so much!!
5:28 Actually there is still another apartment, when Coraline and her mom are driving home Coraline asks "so what do you think is in the other apartment?"
Ok now I notice the mailbox bit, so maybe this line was an oversight?
I will try to listen to that very closely when that driving scene comes up. I don’t recall that comment offhand.
@@TheFangirlWatches if I remember the quote exactly it’s:
Coraline: “so what do you think is in the other apartment?”
Mel: “I don’t know; not a family of Jones imposters”
11:05 100% looks like the way it does at the end