7:07 seeing how realistic it can turn out with something so simple as dabbing it with a brush makes you think "oh everyone could do this in a minute" but the fascinating thing about seeing Adam at work is that there are literally hundreds of ways to paint a piece of foam: spray cans, airbrush, you name it, everything is available in the Cave... but he went straight for the silver lacquer and the big brush and it immediately looked perfect and realistic. That's years of experience at work, priceless
Damn skippy! Same observation when someone want to claim artist shouldn't charge so much because 'a little paint and canvas doesn't cost that much.' You're not paying for paint and canvas. You're paying for paint, canvas and YEARS of training and dedication to turn that paint and canvas into beautiful work.
It looked really ok, but I thought I saw a bit of dissapointment on his guest's face who was hoping probably for a bit more elaborate paintjob with some more drybrush edge-highlighting etc haha.
As a chainmail maker: Use actual rings at the edges to get the EVA rings to drape right. You can also use rubber o-rings to give flex to regular chainmail. As a french speaker: Aventail is the english pronunciation, there is a similar french word but that piece is most commonly called "camail" in french, only the old 12-14 cent. style could be called "aventail" or "avental".
Ben Eadie dude, nobody has said it yet, but this is insanely impressive and friggin awesome. Thank you for sharing this! I’ll be buying some as soon as they’re available! You have changed the world of cosplay.
I said it above, and will say it again: very clever. If you need to taper a cylinder, such as a shirt or skirt-- consider a row of 90% size, then an 80% size. Might work.
@@silviafox78 i hate you, here in blighty its 8ºC and at night its about 2ºC last last week it was even colder, on second thoughts i dont hate you that much as coming from England means i cannot stand anything over 22ºC (for all of you who still use the old imperial units water freezes at 0ºC and boils at 100ºC)
@@airgunnut9489 - You can hate the game but you can't hate the player! 50 C is basically like having a bunch of people hit you with a heat gun all day long... It's really not that nice... Good luck wearing any makeup in summer... The sweat starts dripping off my face within just a few minutes while outside! On top of that if I don't drink about 10-20 ounces of water every half an hour while outside I'll completely dehydrate and have a heat stroke! It can be very dangerous in these temperatures.
No it doesn't. Motorcycle armor needs to protect from impact such as hammer blows (which chainmaille doesn't) and then allow the rider to slide without "hooking up". This is done with leather and plastic pucks set on impact points. Metal gets extremely hot from the friction of sliding down the road. Bike parts are often seen throwing sparks. Gear components such as metal rivets in gloves often make small burns along with implanting themselves into the rider. In addition to all the things that bike armor needs to do in the event of a dismount it ALSO needs to be as comfortable and flexible as possible so the rider can and will wear it for long periods without fatigue and be able to do things like look over their shoulder. Chainmaille is heavy af for the poor protection it provides compared to leather, synthetic textiles like Kevlar, low friction polymers, and composites. Leather chain would either be too weak or prone to friction that could turn a nice safe slide into a tumble or a dislocated limb. Sure would LOOK cool though, just like almost any medieval armor or bike gear does 😁
@@zedex1226 that would be why they're looking into leather scales instead of (chain)mail...though if we're being technical, it may end up being more like lamellar if they're looking for breathability unless they want to look into a breathable backing to connect it to (which could work). The main design issue I see is the dirrectionality of the scales vs the unpredictability of a crash. Even if that doesn't work, it might make for some awesome street wear (that would be both breathable and heavily rain resistant...a hooded trenchcoat/greatcloak of leather scales sounds awesome if the weight can be kept low enough)
I can't imagine leather chainmail giving any sort of protection in a motorcycle crash over 20mph. The rings would catch and snag and the thinness would certainly melt or just snap during a slide. The heat and friction involved in motorcycle slides are absolutely ridiculous, even at lower speeds around 35mph
As a motorcyclist in the south, I would love to have a leather ring, chain mail, jacket. Lots of protection and great air flow just like he said. And it would look AWESOME!!
What is great about EVA foam is that its so easy to laser cut, even a low watt diode laser can cut it! Those cheap ones on Amazon will be perfect for this.
@@mariagmartinho the 3018 machines are very common so there is a lot of people who have solved most problems. Then the software LightBurn is super powerful and worth the money just for the support and usability.
@@mtaylor7171 I am now imagining picking up chicks in full shining plate armor on horseback. Shockingly enough, it actually doesn't seem like something that would be an instant complete failure
Adam! You need a roll holder for your workbench, back when I still had a shop I took some inspiration from clinic beds that had this roll of paper at the end of the beds to cover the bed for each client! That thing changed my life. Instead of having to go and get paper scraps I could easily cover the whole workbench in seconds or cut whatever size a piece I needed at the time. Costs barely nothing but brings so much function to your workspace!
If I recall correctly he already has multiple just placed up on shelfs, as useful as it may be you have to take into account the scale of the projects Adam builds so he probably doesn’t have them cause it would get in the way of his bigger projects. Cause there are some that like took up his entire bench and if he had a roll holder at the end it would get a bit in the way. Dunno just a theory but I do believe he has them or I might be thinking of another maker workshop 😅
@@core7344 Yeah, i built mine so its "hidden" under the table, the widest roll that i could find and worked was just wide enough to slip under very nicely =)
This is extremely cool, and I love hearing Adam talk about it. However, I think the mention of cabled knitting is a slip of the tongue. As far as I can tell, garter stitch seems to be the most common one used for knitted faux chain mail. It's the simple 'knit a row, flip it over, knit back the beginning of the row, repeat' style most folks knit their first scarves and wash clothes with when their just starting to learn how to knit. Cabling, at it's most iconic, is used to create the appearance of braiding and doing Celtic knots. Think Chris Evan's sweater in Knives Out. Just a bit of recreational pedantry for those interested in yarn.
April Hoy-“just a bit of recreational pedantry for those interested in yarn” should be said after all longwinded speeches. Really got a kick outta that
The hell with the chainmail...look at all the history in the background! Thank you Adam for making the real world so surreal and for creating surreal worlds for us in the real world!
It used to be rubber bands, but in a One-Day Build he replaced them with a chain and sprocket. Much more reliable, and they can better handle the torque that his brain produces.
Why does it make you feel better? Is your expectations of Adam too high even though he is human as well. Celebrity doesn't mean perfect at all. Time to grow up dude
Super cool, cheap, and innovative way to solve a decades-old problem. The best solutions are sometimes the most obvious ones that were staring us straight in the face the entire time.
i love seeing Adam have those " *GASP* oh my god!" moments, thats exactly how i feel watching him give advice and tips to simplify certain tasks in the shop!
Adam: Makes his own tools, makes tools with those tools, and in turn makes things with those tools, all with insane levels of skill and knowledge. Also Adam: "I bought this piece." I know it sounds odd, but it's so inspiring to hear every time someone like Adam buys a thing that he probably could have made but knew buying it was what he wanted to do. The "Oh...you didn't make EVERYTHING on your costume." sort of criticism nearly made me quit right off the bat when I started cosplaying. To be frank, I think it's a local issue. I've never encountered that anywhere else but had the same experience 2 years later when I decided to give that con another chance, that time wearing a costume with around 100 hours of work into it. (I went a bit overboard with a lot of insane details.)
I love painting on EVA foam! I take large sheets to life drawing sessions and use acrylics on it. It takes paint and yet slides over the surface in a really interesting way. As an ex costume designer/builder, I love the innovation Ben exhibits. He's a hero! The chain mail I have ever worked with was the heavy cable knitted- just like Adam said. I worked on Stargate and the Jaffa had "cable knit chain mail" elements . They would have changed all the costumes for them had we thought of this brilliant idea.
This is a really neat way to knit. BTW, the "chain mail" side is a purl stitch, and the backside is the basic knit stitch. Making clothing and shaping it will be trivial since it's literally just knitting. You can use existing knitting techniques and patterns to make anything you want.
Just hitting it with the silver once it's assembled...god, it looks great. You get the depth from the black on the unpainted insides which stops it looking too shiny or flat. Looks spectacular and I'm super into seeing where this can go.
There's a lot of videos where Adam is super excited, and I'm at home sort of sharing in the enjoyment of his excitement. But this is the first video where I'm am RIGHT THERE WITH HIM! This is amazing! I can not believe something so simple works! Amazing stuff.
Wow! I love the leather jacket idea. If it's done right and actually provides skid protection, that would be the most comfortable jacket ever! Being able to breathe that well would be revolutionary for riders everywhere!
My friend found pictures of this stuff the other day and sent it to me and I about DIED seeing you make a video interviewing him about it because my first thought was 'Oh this would make Father Maker happy...'
What a wonderful video to wake up to. It is so nice to watch someone who you think has seen it all, express joy and excitement as if it’s the moon landing. AND the reference to the Cricut cutter....Adam, I found the joys of using a Cricut almost a year ago. I am not a scrap booker, I do not enjoy making coffee mugs (no offense to those that do). I prefer pushing it as far as the machine will go. It started when I added regular Elmers white glue on to card stock and realized how much strength it added. One thing led to another and I was making my own parts out of card stock and Elmers glue, precision cutting them with my Cricut. You would be surprised how heavy duty 5 to 10 pieces of card stock glued together then set to dry in a vice can be. Needless to say I started adding wooden dowels and making gears, levers and switches then adding LED lights and I’ve managed to create some very interesting things. I would love to see what you guys could come up with using yours! Thank you again so much for creating content that feels like it was meant specifically for me! 2020 is going to be a great year it seems! Thank you!
As a longboard skater one problem I have is a good set of skid gloves that don't end up basically strapping a couple of plates on my hands and I think that leather scalemail combo would work great, and keep a low profile so I can still use my hands. also this sounds great for a lot of rennfair actors I know.
I saw this a few months back and I really thought it was brilliant. My only concern is that if there's any kind of tension on the foam, it'll snap. I guess because it's easy and cheap to make a cosplayer will make backup pieces, but I can see the chainmail falling apart.
Yes you are correct but you can re-enforce it with creaturecast, flexbond and the like. It works better than one would think. ruclips.net/video/1vqiYwD853Y/видео.html
That does look good. I have been messing around with chainmaille for a few years now and I have been working on a glove in my off time from college classes. I just love making stuff out of it, also listening to audio books while making it.
I just love how Adam clearly loves what he does with projects like this. he was funny and stuff in mythbusters, but just seeing him like this with the energy levels more like an actual human he's significantly more engaging in my opinion :D
I'm glad they've devised better ways to do this now. In the 1980s, I remember watching the "Robin of Sherwood" series, and the chain mail they used was that old knitted "sweater" type, which had the raised surfaces painted silver to give it a metallic look. It cropped up on any number of other TV shows and even movies. I never found it convincing. Hopefully now that they have better ways to make faux mail, we'll never see that stuff again.
Duuuuude! I cannot express how exciting this is to discover, as a cosplayer, prop-maker... This is a revolution and if you end up selling it Imma buy it by the mile.
To get the denser chainmail look you would just need to double layer the loops. It’s an actual chainmail making technique that could easily be adapted for this
Lightweight, relatively cheap, innovative. Great (FANTASTIC) work. Not gonna lie, I foresee a LOT more chainmail anime designs (semi randomised chain-mail/fishnet in areas that could normally not support the weight of metal), kilts and bikini cosplays in the future.
This weave was done in round rattan reed in the 1890's and incorporated in Victorian Wicker Furniture. I have not personally restored a piece done in that weave but some of my colleagues have. To create the rows a jig of short alternating dowels is made. The wet reed is then woven in and out of the dowels and left to dry. I love this concept and it has so much potential. Perhaps another medium that can be woven and heat or dry set can also be used in the low tech jig setup I've described.
I wonder if you can have variations in ring size and have different sizes in one sheet. Could be interesting for fashion if you were making a shirt or dress.
That's really cool and that touch of lacquer looks so good! I've actually got an 80% finished 3D printed DL-44 and that silver paint would be perfect to finish it with, thanks Adam!
Perfect timing. I’m making a full suit of Maille out of aluminum wire by hand (rings and everything). As a Cosplayer who used EVA foam almost religiously I love this idea, but it’s a shame I can’t afford a laser printer to do this. I Hope this will reach the Cosplay market soon. Great job
The timing on this is absolutely perfect. I've been helping my brother design some monster hunter armor for Comic Con, and have been dreading the chain mail. I can't wait to try making this.
The hood is pronounced "coyf" and is actually spelled that way in some manuscripts and inventories. The collar is called a Standard. If made if plate or leather it is a gorget.
@@SharkWrestler he had a friend make it. I'll give butted a pass for a friend and not using it for armor. I fight in my armor, so all my maille is wedge riveted.
This is the coolest process I have ever seen. Do you suppose you could make different shaped chain mail, like triangles to add some style, even if it isn't't accurate
Weta probably does a MEK or similar solvent based method to glue their part. A quick dip would defiantly get the link seams to bond. Could possibly just do it with vapors in a chamber like vapor smoothing an FDM 3d print.
Chris Andrews more the point that it’s not called chainmail, it’s just mail or maille, he tells Adam this during the armour build. It I guess he hasn’t listened.
@@Barrygee let's be real even reenactors and archeologists say chainmail as it now is common to know it as that. You are not wrong but saying chainmail at least everyone know what the aesthetic is supposed to be.
havtor007 this is the problem though, common consensus overtaking facts, just because people know it as chainmail doesn’t mean they’re correct, just means a lot of people don’t know any better
why I didn't know about this channel is beyond me I've searched this dude so many times this channels never appeared for me ?!?!?! I'm in nz so happy to finally have found this
That might be a GREAT use of the leather stuff.... I'd worry that the foam stuff wouldn't be very durable (Mind you my maille dice bag is made of steel, so I don't have to be very precious with it ;-) )
@@ClintonAllenAnderson Yeah, that's true, I didn't really think about the durability factor of it. I remember back when I was in high school, and I was really big into jewelry making, and I picked up an issue of _Bead & Button_ that had an article about making maille dice bags. Wanted to do it, but for whatever reason, I never actually did. I'm thinking about doing it finally, though.
EVA foam is a great material for cosplay, but it's SO DAMN HOT in it... I've made a Mass Effect Armor when I was in high school and almost passed out from exhaustion after I had to wear it for half a day once. Next time I make something out of it I'm gonna implement some cooling system.
Also - painting EVA foam is hell. None of the commercially available paint could endure the foam bending and rubbing against stuff. I ended up contacting a paint-lab and asked them for some free samples that would hold on this material. Not even this specialistically engineered paint could hold longer than a month :P
There's a lot of debate around that. Essentially both are correct, kwaf as the French pronunciation (and it is a French word) and koyf as an English pronunciation.
In French, the "oi" is always pronounced like Waluigi's catchphrase, but the English took the word, spelling and all, and just put it within their own lexicon.
Being a borrowed word, use its native pronunciation. [kouwaff]. Same as pâté, croissant, déjà vu... Every country borrows words from other countries. We use business, week-end, start-up, parking...
Depends on what kind of movie you're talking about... Personally I think any historical movie that doesn't represent 'chainmail' as authentic riveted maille is absolute garbage. But it looks decent for fantasy settings, especially considering most fantasy films use atrocious looking butted costume mail.
leather chainmail motorcycle jacket. add some cool period-style plates for elbow protection (maybe some vambrace too) and you got a medieval inspired safety jacket
Watch Ben's video about the making of his chain mail (and bowtie) here: ruclips.net/video/1vqiYwD853Y/видео.html
Adam Savage’s Tested you’re such a god damn wholesome man
I want some chain mail...all I can do with my resources and money is make the links with wire.
Hi Adam.
From the Bahamas.
I'm working on a project that allows solar panels to produce energy at night.
Have you tested the idea?
Can he make it smaller?!
hey there are leather companies that has scrapped leather his design would definitely change up the recycled leather buisness.
7:07 seeing how realistic it can turn out with something so simple as dabbing it with a brush makes you think "oh everyone could do this in a minute" but the fascinating thing about seeing Adam at work is that there are literally hundreds of ways to paint a piece of foam: spray cans, airbrush, you name it, everything is available in the Cave... but he went straight for the silver lacquer and the big brush and it immediately looked perfect and realistic. That's years of experience at work, priceless
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Damn skippy! Same observation when someone want to claim artist shouldn't charge so much because 'a little paint and canvas doesn't cost that much.' You're not paying for paint and canvas. You're paying for paint, canvas and YEARS of training and dedication to turn that paint and canvas into beautiful work.
I bet if you did a light brown or orange dip wash after would be even better
The technique is called dry brushing its actually very simple to learn how to do.
It looked really ok, but I thought I saw a bit of dissapointment on his guest's face who was hoping probably for a bit more elaborate paintjob with some more drybrush edge-highlighting etc haha.
As a chainmail maker: Use actual rings at the edges to get the EVA rings to drape right. You can also use rubber o-rings to give flex to regular chainmail.
As a french speaker: Aventail is the english pronunciation, there is a similar french word but that piece is most commonly called "camail" in french, only the old 12-14 cent. style could be called "aventail" or "avental".
Nicolas Girard brilliant!
Yes, i was thinking that it being too light will cause soon movement visual issue when moving or when wind blows.
I question the strength of the foam for any kind of large piece. Seems like one small snag and it will rip.
Also, where are the rivets?
@@theangrycheeto you don't need them is it's not a hero props.
Eeeeeeeek! I cannot believe I got to go to the 'Cave"! So much fun. Thank you tested crew for such a great time when I was there.
a dream manny of uss hav haha ^^
that motorbike jacket do sound like a awesome idea, plz try it! :D
Ben Eadie dude, nobody has said it yet, but this is insanely impressive and friggin awesome. Thank you for sharing this! I’ll be buying some as soon as they’re available! You have changed the world of cosplay.
We loved having you, Ben. Thanks for coming!
I said it above, and will say it again: very clever. If you need to taper a cylinder, such as a shirt or skirt-- consider a row of 90% size, then an 80% size. Might work.
@@MrChief101 oh! Good idea. We have ways of tapering and video tutorials will be our on my channel shortly
The cosplay crowd is gonna go nuts over this stuff, light, realistic at a close distance, and won't suck the heat from your bones.
I'd love something to suck the heat out of my bones. It's 38º C today
@@JonatasMonte - that's a pretty nice temperature. I sometimes have to deal with up to 50+ C here in arizona
@@silviafox78 i hate you, here in blighty its 8ºC and at night its about 2ºC last last week it was even colder, on second thoughts i dont hate you that much as coming from England means i cannot stand anything over 22ºC (for all of you who still use the old imperial units water freezes at 0ºC and boils at 100ºC)
@@JonatasMonte
In which case it will suck the heat from the world and pour it straight into your body...
@@airgunnut9489 - You can hate the game but you can't hate the player! 50 C is basically like having a bunch of people hit you with a heat gun all day long... It's really not that nice... Good luck wearing any makeup in summer... The sweat starts dripping off my face within just a few minutes while outside! On top of that if I don't drink about 10-20 ounces of water every half an hour while outside I'll completely dehydrate and have a heat stroke! It can be very dangerous in these temperatures.
The idea of creating a leather chainmail motorcycle jacket is super exciting, they gotta get on it
Scale, but yes, that sounds amazing! I don't even bike and I'm excited by that.
No it doesn't. Motorcycle armor needs to protect from impact such as hammer blows (which chainmaille doesn't) and then allow the rider to slide without "hooking up". This is done with leather and plastic pucks set on impact points. Metal gets extremely hot from the friction of sliding down the road. Bike parts are often seen throwing sparks. Gear components such as metal rivets in gloves often make small burns along with implanting themselves into the rider.
In addition to all the things that bike armor needs to do in the event of a dismount it ALSO needs to be as comfortable and flexible as possible so the rider can and will wear it for long periods without fatigue and be able to do things like look over their shoulder. Chainmaille is heavy af for the poor protection it provides compared to leather, synthetic textiles like Kevlar, low friction polymers, and composites. Leather chain would either be too weak or prone to friction that could turn a nice safe slide into a tumble or a dislocated limb.
Sure would LOOK cool though, just like almost any medieval armor or bike gear does 😁
@@zedex1226 that would be why they're looking into leather scales instead of (chain)mail...though if we're being technical, it may end up being more like lamellar if they're looking for breathability unless they want to look into a breathable backing to connect it to (which could work).
The main design issue I see is the dirrectionality of the scales vs the unpredictability of a crash.
Even if that doesn't work, it might make for some awesome street wear (that would be both breathable and heavily rain resistant...a hooded trenchcoat/greatcloak of leather scales sounds awesome if the weight can be kept low enough)
@@zedex1226 did you even fully watch, read or think before making this comment
I can't imagine leather chainmail giving any sort of protection in a motorcycle crash over 20mph. The rings would catch and snag and the thinness would certainly melt or just snap during a slide. The heat and friction involved in motorcycle slides are absolutely ridiculous, even at lower speeds around 35mph
As a motorcyclist in the south, I would love to have a leather ring, chain mail, jacket. Lots of protection and great air flow just like he said.
And it would look AWESOME!!
I'd be excited to see it as a replacement for vents along the shoulders and back areas.
What is great about EVA foam is that its so easy to laser cut, even a low watt diode laser can cut it!
Those cheap ones on Amazon will be perfect for this.
Ohhhhh.... I never thought about putting this in a laser cutter! 😳
Thanks a lot for the 278555825855 ideas I am having right now!
Any suggestions on the laser cutters you mentioned?
@@mariagmartinho the 3018 machines are very common so there is a lot of people who have solved most problems. Then the software LightBurn is super powerful and worth the money just for the support and usability.
"what boy doesnt like armor" never heard more words of such truth
Right!
Girls too! (OK maybe not all girls 😂)
Er mer gerd Ermer
@@mtaylor7171 girls that are badass do
@@mtaylor7171 I am now imagining picking up chicks in full shining plate armor on horseback. Shockingly enough, it actually doesn't seem like something that would be an instant complete failure
Adam! You need a roll holder for your workbench, back when I still had a shop I took some inspiration from clinic beds that had this roll of paper at the end of the beds to cover the bed for each client! That thing changed my life. Instead of having to go and get paper scraps I could easily cover the whole workbench in seconds or cut whatever size a piece I needed at the time. Costs barely nothing but brings so much function to your workspace!
That is such a great idea!
If I recall correctly he already has multiple just placed up on shelfs, as useful as it may be you have to take into account the scale of the projects Adam builds so he probably doesn’t have them cause it would get in the way of his bigger projects. Cause there are some that like took up his entire bench and if he had a roll holder at the end it would get a bit in the way. Dunno just a theory but I do believe he has them or I might be thinking of another maker workshop 😅
@@core7344 Yeah, i built mine so its "hidden" under the table, the widest roll that i could find and worked was just wide enough to slip under very nicely =)
This is extremely cool, and I love hearing Adam talk about it. However, I think the mention of cabled knitting is a slip of the tongue.
As far as I can tell, garter stitch seems to be the most common one used for knitted faux chain mail. It's the simple 'knit a row, flip it over, knit back the beginning of the row, repeat' style most folks knit their first scarves and wash clothes with when their just starting to learn how to knit. Cabling, at it's most iconic, is used to create the appearance of braiding and doing Celtic knots. Think Chris Evan's sweater in Knives Out.
Just a bit of recreational pedantry for those interested in yarn.
Thank you, I was about to say the same thing!
April Hoy-“just a bit of recreational pedantry for those interested in yarn” should be said after all longwinded speeches. Really got a kick outta that
Ben is a freakin genius! This has changed cosplay chainmail forever.
Yay!
The hell with the chainmail...look at all the history in the background! Thank you Adam for making the real world so surreal and for creating surreal worlds for us in the real world!
4:54 you can SMELL the burning rubber bands inside Adam's brain spinning as fast as it can....
I can't wait for the video of him making something with leather mail XD
It used to be rubber bands, but in a One-Day Build he replaced them with a chain and sprocket. Much more reliable, and they can better handle the torque that his brain produces.
That was the smell I smelled in the shop that day LMFAO!
Danielle Seay he looks baked asf
You could 3d print the base shape in a flexible filament and then weave them together. This opens up a whole new realm of colors and durable options.
I LOVE the motorcylce jacket idea. Composite mail in combination with protective pads could make for an awesome, light summertime jacket.
I want a leather chain-mail composite motorcycle jacket, size XL, right now!
I'm not even a biker and the idea of a lasercut scale leather jacket sounds amazing!
Agreed, the ability to keep the protection of leather but be comfortable in 35 degree weather is very appealing
6:50 as cool as this video is, that blooper is the best part. Thanks for keeping it in, it made all of us feel better :)
Why does it make you feel better? Is your expectations of Adam too high even though he is human as well. Celebrity doesn't mean perfect at all. Time to grow up dude
@@ThePeacePlant I think he's just agreeing with the guy in the video that people making mistakes is something most people can relate to.
@@ThePeacePlant "Time to grow up dude." It seems that you may want to take your own advice.
Super cool, cheap, and innovative way to solve a decades-old problem. The best solutions are sometimes the most obvious ones that were staring us straight in the face the entire time.
Right? When it hit me I jumped up and down I was so happy
This is so fabulous! Great work Ben. =D
Thank you!
i love seeing Adam have those " *GASP* oh my god!" moments, thats exactly how i feel watching him give advice and tips to simplify certain tasks in the shop!
Adam: Makes his own tools, makes tools with those tools, and in turn makes things with those tools, all with insane levels of skill and knowledge.
Also Adam: "I bought this piece."
I know it sounds odd, but it's so inspiring to hear every time someone like Adam buys a thing that he probably could have made but knew buying it was what he wanted to do. The "Oh...you didn't make EVERYTHING on your costume." sort of criticism nearly made me quit right off the bat when I started cosplaying.
To be frank, I think it's a local issue. I've never encountered that anywhere else but had the same experience 2 years later when I decided to give that con another chance, that time wearing a costume with around 100 hours of work into it. (I went a bit overboard with a lot of insane details.)
I love painting on EVA foam! I take large sheets to life drawing sessions and use acrylics on it. It takes paint and yet slides over the surface in a really interesting way. As an ex costume designer/builder, I love the innovation Ben exhibits. He's a hero! The chain mail I have ever worked with was the heavy cable knitted- just like Adam said. I worked on Stargate and the Jaffa had "cable knit chain mail" elements . They would have changed all the costumes for them had we thought of this brilliant idea.
This is a really neat way to knit. BTW, the "chain mail" side is a purl stitch, and the backside is the basic knit stitch.
Making clothing and shaping it will be trivial since it's literally just knitting. You can use existing knitting techniques and patterns to make anything you want.
Beautiful! And it's also easy to apply some paint to let it look rusty or blackened, even better than with blank wire and stuff.
The way Adam moves around and works gives me anxiety but I also love it at the same time. It is so manic.
Just hitting it with the silver once it's assembled...god, it looks great. You get the depth from the black on the unpainted insides which stops it looking too shiny or flat. Looks spectacular and I'm super into seeing where this can go.
Adam is so excited that I can´t see his hands when he dry brushes the EVA chainmail. Great video. Thank you guys!
He’s like the Bruce Lee of the maker world.
There's a lot of videos where Adam is super excited, and I'm at home sort of sharing in the enjoyment of his excitement. But this is the first video where I'm am RIGHT THERE WITH HIM! This is amazing! I can not believe something so simple works! Amazing stuff.
mr ben, thank you for your services to the world!
Anytime
Wow! I love the leather jacket idea. If it's done right and actually provides skid protection, that would be the most comfortable jacket ever! Being able to breathe that well would be revolutionary for riders everywhere!
My friend found pictures of this stuff the other day and sent it to me and I about DIED seeing you make a video interviewing him about it because my first thought was 'Oh this would make Father Maker happy...'
good to see adam is still active... been watching him on TV since i was 9 or 10...
Knitter here
Your “right side” is called the purl side and your “wrong side” is called the knit side. The whole stitch pattern is called stockinette.
i wonder if you could achieve a similar look by knitting with some kind of plastic cord?
early Hollywood knitted chainmail was garter stitch
So glad I'm not the only one that was like 😒 no
Adam is always so genuine in his enthusiasm, you can tell it really hit Ben too. That guy's going to be buzzing for days
Yup, the energy off Adam is infectious.
This is an amazing game changer, big thanks to Ben for making this and sharing it with us!
The only issue with this is that it doesn't hang and move right.
That said - for cosplay where weight is probably a common issue, why not.
JanPospisil42 add real rings at the ends, so it forms a sort of outline. Then it will fall more realistically
I’m not a cosplayer, but if I was I would trade a slightly less realistic looking chainmail for being comfortable and cool
As a chainmailler, it's not the same. As a past chainmailler for Weta, AWESOME!!!!!! :)
"If you build it, they will come".
Dude, start selling this!
If he can figure out how to make this in large quantities I would buy it. I dont need an actual shirt for my costume but I do need sections of mail.
@@nubreed13 If you only need a couple of sections then just make some chainmail yourself. It's very easy to make just a couple sheets of maille.
up for pre-sale at FoamArmory.com
I can see this being a near universal standard three or four years from now.
What a wonderful video to wake up to. It is so nice to watch someone who you think has seen it all, express joy and excitement as if it’s the moon landing. AND the reference to the Cricut cutter....Adam, I found the joys of using a Cricut almost a year ago. I am not a scrap booker, I do not enjoy making coffee mugs (no offense to those that do). I prefer pushing it as far as the machine will go. It started when I added regular Elmers white glue on to card stock and realized how much strength it added. One thing led to another and I was making my own parts out of card stock and Elmers glue, precision cutting them with my Cricut. You would be surprised how heavy duty 5 to 10 pieces of card stock glued together then set to dry in a vice can be. Needless to say I started adding wooden dowels and making gears, levers and switches then adding LED lights and I’ve managed to create some very interesting things. I would love to see what you guys could come up with using yours! Thank you again so much for creating content that feels like it was meant specifically for me! 2020 is going to be a great year it seems! Thank you!
4:13 The propper name would be standard or pisane. Aventail is the mail armor that is attached to a bascinet helmet.
Ok nerd
@@freddy7694 Ok boomer
Aaron Stevens ok wanna be
@@hakrj12 ok troll
Okay*
As a longboard skater one problem I have is a good set of skid gloves that don't end up basically strapping a couple of plates on my hands and I think that leather scalemail combo would work great, and keep a low profile so I can still use my hands. also this sounds great for a lot of rennfair actors I know.
Great idea!
5:05 The sound of many ideas racing through a maker's head.
LOVE Adam, he is like a kid a Christmas. This type of chair mail is off the hook best. I defiantly want to try it.
1000 "Atta-Boys" to Adam for, "I forgot to take the plastic off" ! You are my hero!
I’ve been knitting my chainmail from yarn for years, but this is EXCITING! For non-load bearing applications this would be the shit!
When you put flexbond or creaturecast on it after weaving it can take a load FYI
8:04 hahaha adam scared the other guy by yelling in his face lmao
ExACtLY!!
Now I've noticed it i giggled
Oh my gosh, thank you-- this made me laugh so hard.
Hell I did not notice and I was there... LMAO what you get in the comments here is gold!
Back 4 years later. Just bought this stuff at hobby lobby. Not sure if it’s sold by this guy but it’s the same stuff and it’s awesome
Me: How's a little silver paint and lacquer going to make that look like actual metal?
Adam: *dab dab*
Me: O_O
So was it silver lacquer, or a mix of silver paint and lacquer?
Adam pulling a Bob Ross right there XD
@@corbynmejia2340 It was just silver lacquer. The paint was only on the tests.
is amezing how you can mix fashion design with industrial design AMAZING
0:36 OMG Adam is friends with my old geography teacher (he worked with the people,e who made the pvc chain mail)
The instant I saw the piece laying on the table unhooked I just lost it.
That is the most brilliant solution to this I have ever seen.
Thank you!
I saw this a few months back and I really thought it was brilliant. My only concern is that if there's any kind of tension on the foam, it'll snap. I guess because it's easy and cheap to make a cosplayer will make backup pieces, but I can see the chainmail falling apart.
Yes you are correct but you can re-enforce it with creaturecast, flexbond and the like. It works better than one would think. ruclips.net/video/1vqiYwD853Y/видео.html
That does look good. I have been messing around with chainmaille for a few years now and I have been working on a glove in my off time from college classes. I just love making stuff out of it, also listening to audio books while making it.
First time I"ve seen someone use protection by mistake :D
Safety first, good example Adam :)
I just love how Adam clearly loves what he does with projects like this. he was funny and stuff in mythbusters, but just seeing him like this with the energy levels more like an actual human he's significantly more engaging in my opinion :D
I am geeking out!!!!! This is so cool. I wish I had access to a lazer cutter
Soon we will be selling at FoamArmory.com so you will not need one. :)
There are plenty of hobbyists who you could probably hire to cut it for you
I'm glad they've devised better ways to do this now. In the 1980s, I remember watching the "Robin of Sherwood" series, and the chain mail they used was that old knitted "sweater" type, which had the raised surfaces painted silver to give it a metallic look. It cropped up on any number of other TV shows and even movies. I never found it convincing. Hopefully now that they have better ways to make faux mail, we'll never see that stuff again.
I’m so gonna use this for my cosplay!!!! Th s is incredible!!!
YAY!
Duuuuude! I cannot express how exciting this is to discover, as a cosplayer, prop-maker... This is a revolution and if you end up selling it Imma buy it by the mile.
we have it up for pre-order at FoamArmory.com
Me, a cosplayer: SHUT UP AND TAKE MY MONEY
FoamArmory.com its up for pre-sale. :)
To get the denser chainmail look you would just need to double layer the loops. It’s an actual chainmail making technique that could easily be adapted for this
Got something Adam wants?
Now you are his friend!!!
He is not that way at all. We met and became friends WAY before I introduced him to this stuff.
Lightweight, relatively cheap, innovative.
Great (FANTASTIC) work.
Not gonna lie, I foresee a LOT more chainmail anime designs (semi randomised chain-mail/fishnet in areas that could normally not support the weight of metal), kilts and bikini cosplays in the future.
I hope so :) Working on a bikini right now
Yay Ben! I love this stuff and I'll keep playing with it.
This weave was done in round rattan reed in the 1890's and incorporated in Victorian Wicker Furniture. I have not personally restored a piece done in that weave but some of my colleagues have. To create the rows a jig of short alternating dowels is made. The wet reed is then woven in and out of the dowels and left to dry. I love this concept and it has so much potential. Perhaps another medium that can be woven and heat or dry set can also be used in the low tech jig setup I've described.
Oooooooo....I love the Ghost Busters.......sign?.....clock?...in the background. I was so distracted by that in the video I had to re-watch video.
:) I was a props/SPFX guy on that movie it was a gift from us on the show to adam.
I wonder if you can have variations in ring size and have different sizes in one sheet. Could be interesting for fashion if you were making a shirt or dress.
Go watch my video here: ruclips.net/video/1vqiYwD853Y/видео.html You do not need to make different lengths with my new design.
Sell it in a roll so people can cut to their preferred size!
genius.
I am not even a cosplayer and yet I am veeery exciteeed!
So cool I've been wanting to make a knight cosplay
DO EET!
Yeeeee dew it!
Hopefully it becomes a reality
That's really cool and that touch of lacquer looks so good! I've actually got an 80% finished 3D printed DL-44 and that silver paint would be perfect to finish it with, thanks Adam!
4:57: BOOOOM! Mind blown!
Perfect timing. I’m making a full suit of Maille out of aluminum wire by hand (rings and everything).
As a Cosplayer who used EVA foam almost religiously I love this idea, but it’s a shame I can’t afford a laser printer to do this.
I Hope this will reach the Cosplay market soon. Great job
Call me crazy but my OCD is telling me to harness my inner obsessive compulsive and buy a box of blades for my exact-o-knife....
Adam Savage looked like Scott Steiner in the beginning
How many of you are there...
The timing on this is absolutely perfect. I've been helping my brother design some monster hunter armor for Comic Con, and have been dreading the chain mail. I can't wait to try making this.
The hood is pronounced "coyf" and is actually spelled that way in some manuscripts and inventories. The collar is called a Standard. If made if plate or leather it is a gorget.
I was sad when I heard he commissioned it, there's so many people out there who can make insanely nice maille coifs. That one he had was lackluster
@@SharkWrestler he had a friend make it. I'll give butted a pass for a friend and not using it for armor. I fight in my armor, so all my maille is wedge riveted.
@@Albruit sweet, I've got a late 14th early 15th northern Italian kit going
Both pronunciations are correct.
Ten seconds of paint application and bam! Chain mail! This isn't just awesome, it's (cosplay-wise) revolutionary!
This is the coolest process I have ever seen. Do you suppose you could make different shaped chain mail, like triangles to add some style, even if it isn't't accurate
Omar Essilfie-Quaye probably
Yes we are working on that right now! There will be more in the coming weeks! foamarmory.com/
i believe triangle shaped chainmail does exist dont know if its time accurate (as in actually used as c.mail in that time) but it does exist!!
@@DreadMakerRoberts Ben, the biker jacket is such an amazing idea. It's going to make you millions
@@jcarletto27 I would be happy with tens... of dollars :)
Weta probably does a MEK or similar solvent based method to glue their part. A quick dip would defiantly get the link seams to bond. Could possibly just do it with vapors in a chamber like vapor smoothing an FDM 3d print.
This further reinforces my love for dry brushing. Especially over a black primer or black surface.
"Have you tried out a more denser foam?"
"Well we've tried out 3 mm's..."
Thickness/Volume != Density. Try a firmer foam.
Yes my bad. I was over excited being there and not listening. Denser foam is good too. and a bit stronger.
@@DreadMakerRoberts You're a legend! Chainmail out of foam is something I never thought I would see
A testament to how light they are where a spray can knocks the 'mail' clean across the paper.
this is could be awesome for theatre where you need something that looks effective from a distance. my only question is how hardwearing is it?
avantgauche a few nicks and burrs could help sell it as a used armour for an old warrior.
But yes, it needs to not unravel from 1-2 links breaking.
I'll wager that my broadsword would cut through it like butter! ;-)
Testing this out today at my maker space!!!!! Heres hoping it works!
Did it? ANyting I can help you with?
love that they Both have a meassuring tattos but on diffrent arms :D
a sign of a realy dedicated crafter haha
Im a leftie :)
@@DreadMakerRoberts I was just thinking - Ben must be a leftie since the tat is on the right arm. :D Yay southpaws.
I AM Excited! I want some!
I was thinking Scott Steiner the whole episode 😄
knitting with foam! genius!
Terry English is rolling his eyes at the word ‘chain’
"EVA Foam Mail" 🤣
Chris Andrews more the point that it’s not called chainmail, it’s just mail or maille, he tells Adam this during the armour build. It I guess he hasn’t listened.
@@Barrygee let's be real even reenactors and archeologists say chainmail as it now is common to know it as that.
You are not wrong but saying chainmail at least everyone know what the aesthetic is supposed to be.
havtor007 this is the problem though, common consensus overtaking facts, just because people know it as chainmail doesn’t mean they’re correct, just means a lot of people don’t know any better
This is amazing, I just started messing around with EVA foam on my X-carve with some success.
Have you thought of a pasta machine with the die cut on the rollers, ????? I dont mean an actual pasta machine, but similar.
why I didn't know about this channel is beyond me I've searched this dude so many times this channels never appeared for me ?!?!?! I'm in nz so happy to finally have found this
I love chainmaille, so, this is _insanely awesome_ to me! I wonder how this would be for a dice bag lol
That might be a GREAT use of the leather stuff.... I'd worry that the foam stuff wouldn't be very durable (Mind you my maille dice bag is made of steel, so I don't have to be very precious with it ;-) )
@@ClintonAllenAnderson Yeah, that's true, I didn't really think about the durability factor of it. I remember back when I was in high school, and I was really big into jewelry making, and I picked up an issue of _Bead & Button_ that had an article about making maille dice bags. Wanted to do it, but for whatever reason, I never actually did. I'm thinking about doing it finally, though.
@@ChozoSR388 Doooooo eeeeeeet!!! It's never too late to make! 😁
Wow! Once Adam painted it, it really looked real!
EVA foam is a great material for cosplay, but it's SO DAMN HOT in it... I've made a Mass Effect Armor when I was in high school and almost passed out from exhaustion after I had to wear it for half a day once.
Next time I make something out of it I'm gonna implement some cooling system.
Also - painting EVA foam is hell. None of the commercially available paint could endure the foam bending and rubbing against stuff.
I ended up contacting a paint-lab and asked them for some free samples that would hold on this material. Not even this specialistically engineered paint could hold longer than a month :P
@@bzqp2 did you use a primer? I've never had problems with paint and EVA that was primed before painting
@@bzqp2 Ive always sealed the foam with plastidip to fill small imperfections and my paint adhered to the plastidip perfectly
@@bzqp2 you should have primed it. It's the golden rule for most things you want to paint.
With the holes my chainmaille breathes! Its actually quite comfortable foamarmory.com/
Did I watch this a 2x speed? No wonder Adam gets so much done. He is like a hummingbird.
Its exhausting trying to keep up to him...
damnit *coif* is pronounced *kwaf* !? I've been saying *coyf* my whole life.
There's a lot of debate around that. Essentially both are correct, kwaf as the French pronunciation (and it is a French word) and koyf as an English pronunciation.
In French, the "oi" is always pronounced like Waluigi's catchphrase, but the English took the word, spelling and all, and just put it within their own lexicon.
"coyf" thanks 😉
@@TheAegisClaw All thanks to The Battle of Hastings
Being a borrowed word, use its native pronunciation. [kouwaff]. Same as pâté, croissant, déjà vu...
Every country borrows words from other countries.
We use business, week-end, start-up, parking...
Is this stuff movie-grade? Like, closeup hero prop quality? What a game changer!
Depends on what kind of movie you're talking about... Personally I think any historical movie that doesn't represent 'chainmail' as authentic riveted maille is absolute garbage. But it looks decent for fantasy settings, especially considering most fantasy films use atrocious looking butted costume mail.
The future will be 3D printed chain mail.
nope Kayne Horsham has already developed and injection moulding system that make complete sheets of chainmail already assembled.
leather chainmail motorcycle jacket. add some cool period-style plates for elbow protection (maybe some vambrace too) and you got a medieval inspired safety jacket