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  • @69ryxn
    @69ryxn 9 месяцев назад +33

    running cinebench to prove ram stability has to be the dummest thing i have seen in my entire life.

    • @ColdVenom159
      @ColdVenom159 9 месяцев назад +1

      talking to talk is litrerally the dumbest thing done in life.

    • @69ryxn
      @69ryxn 9 месяцев назад

      @@ColdVenom159 Bro your a hardware nerd virgin, your life is sad. i dont even like framechasers vut ur def 10x worst then him

    • @LegionGamingTV
      @LegionGamingTV 8 месяцев назад

      @@ColdVenom159So you’re video is you just talking to talk 😂 you suck dude😂

    • @Denbot.Gaming
      @Denbot.Gaming 7 месяцев назад +1

      It's actually good test, the cores thrash the memory, gives you a good idea if its going to be some what stable, if its bad it'll fail

    • @rekareaper
      @rekareaper 7 месяцев назад +9

      @@Denbot.Gamingyou can pass cinebench with completely unstable memory.. Your memory can be so unstable that can’t even play games, but you can still pass cinebench. That’s like saying memtest proves stability for DDR5. Lmfao.

  • @jameyt1
    @jameyt1 9 месяцев назад +33

    I don’t like Jufes but holy hell did I lose brain cells watching this

    • @ColdVenom159
      @ColdVenom159 9 месяцев назад +3

      Just a thought why not make content of your own see how it works out for ya. Anyone can talk that's the easy part.

    • @joshr961
      @joshr961 9 месяцев назад +2

      @@ColdVenom159this guy talks a lot about overclocking cause he charges 600$ for it. Imagine someone paying to overclock there x3d chip and this clown doesn’t even know breaking the 1:1 ratio on ram actually decreases performance but quite a decent margin even with 7200mhz ram vs 6000.Imagine paying 600$ to get negative gaming performance because he is incompetent and thinks they overclock the same as Intel chips. This frame chasers is simping for Intel and it shows. Absolutely wish he was called out by more.

    • @Denbot.Gaming
      @Denbot.Gaming 7 месяцев назад

      @@ColdVenom159could mop up his community in one move... setup a discord and actually help people

    • @catonturtle3202
      @catonturtle3202 7 месяцев назад +5

      ​@@joshr961he always tells people that 1:1 is faster than 2:1 mode on ryzen 7000 and runs his benchmarks at 6200/6400
      i still think framechasers is either a greedy fraud or dumb and makes his flck unstable making ryzen lose in his benchmarks but you're still straight up lying

    • @christopherjames9843
      @christopherjames9843 6 месяцев назад

      @@ColdVenom159 Lol, dude get a life. The guy is an obvious fraud. You look like a moron trying to defend him. Why debase yourself?

  • @LegionGamingTV
    @LegionGamingTV 8 месяцев назад +17

    You are a complete and total smooth brain my guy.. Almost all A-Die DDR5 overclocks the same. I have a Oloy 6400-C34 32gb kit that overclocks to 8000 CL36 24hours stable.. Which was the bottom of the barrel, $100 cheaper than “well-known” ram 8000 kits, and got the same speed for $100 less. You have no idea what you’re talking about 😂

    • @ColdVenom159
      @ColdVenom159 8 месяцев назад

      w/e you say lol. just some the speeds and cl youre talking about i know youre full of shit lol. ive actually got a pair of tridentz5 here 6,000mhz cl30 which wont go past 6,700mhz which is actually a worse bin then you claim to have. ya gonna have to try alot harder buddy lol. maybe upload alot more and get more then 6 subs.

    • @LegionGamingTV
      @LegionGamingTV 8 месяцев назад

      @@ColdVenom159 what’s you’re social media I’ll send you a video right now of my ram kit and it running at 8000mhz.. why would anyone make that up lol it’s not a race or d!ck measuring contest. It’s about knowing wtf you’re doing, which you clearly don’t. Send me your twitter, Facebook or email and I’ll send you video proof of my PC and the ram

    • @LegionGamingTV
      @LegionGamingTV 8 месяцев назад +8

      @@ColdVenom159 IDK how me having 6 subs is some kind of negative to you lol. I work 12 hours a day in healthcare and do benchmarks for fun maybe once or twice a year.. Im not trying to get subs, unlike yourself. When you attack people expect retaliation...

    • @ColdVenom159
      @ColdVenom159 8 месяцев назад +2

      @@LegionGamingTV LMMFAO i work 12 hr shifts as well. i pull 80 hrs a week. you really show how ignorant you are, ive stated in a numbe rof my videos i careless about subs if someone wants to sub they can if they dont wanna idc LMMFAO. funny thing is unlike you i actually commented in framr chasers video before i even made this video. ive called him out on his own channel. gtfoh with your nonsens man.

    • @LegionGamingTV
      @LegionGamingTV 8 месяцев назад

      @@ColdVenom159 I dont care if you've commented on gods channel, you're still wrong. and I've proved you wrong, but you still wont admit it. Focus on your POS car and the "BaSs" lol I am a part of his community and unlike you actually back are shit up facts. You watch my video yet lol?

  • @samuelwilliams8560
    @samuelwilliams8560 10 месяцев назад +22

    John D: Uses Cinebench to demonstrate "stable". 🤣
    Jufes: Runs Karhu Software for 24 hours minimum to demonstrate stable. 😉
    Me: You're welcome.

    • @ColdVenom159
      @ColdVenom159 10 месяцев назад +2

      And who are you? guess thats why he depends on people giving him money to do what he does to just well talk. guess thats also why i hold 1st on 3d mark on every list ive ran on while well he just talks. funny when i commented on his video correcting his mis information he said zero ;). I dont hav eot ask people for money i actually work for a living. everything i do is out of my pocket while what he does everyone else pays for gtfoh lol. What ya missed the video he did where a viewer proved him wrong lol ?

    • @samuelwilliams8560
      @samuelwilliams8560 10 месяцев назад +1

      @@ColdVenom159 I'm just a guy who has actually watched that video and posted a parody of it above in three simple sentences. 🙃
      If you don't want anyone to get your goat, you probably shouldn't let it wander around loose like that. 🤣

    • @ColdVenom159
      @ColdVenom159 10 месяцев назад

      @@samuelwilliams8560 lmmfao ya i fgured when i asked who are you you would completely miss me being scarastic. thers a big difference here while youre talk im dong the stuff, same as framechasers tho hes wrong on things he says tho people still give him money lol. i can wonder how ever i like as i dont depend on views or likes most of all im not just talking about the stuff ;).

    • @JonLaRue
      @JonLaRue 7 месяцев назад +5

      I have set world records on Cinebench on AM4 those systems were not at all stable… Cinebench will run in wildly unstable systems.

    • @ColdVenom159
      @ColdVenom159 7 месяцев назад

      @@i_scopes_i3914bro you need to get a life. trying to assume the political views of someone based off computers, youve proven quite fast youre literally clueless.

  • @kevinidleman7048
    @kevinidleman7048 8 месяцев назад +5

    When he says 7800 and 7600 are the same stick, he's asserting that the IC's are the same (or at least very similar, possibly just a different bin). Both sticks are Hynix A-die in that case and that's all he cares about. He understands CAS latency, of course, and he sets that manually in the BIOS (overriding the XMP profile). The RAM stick manufacturer actually doesn't really matter, they all pull from the same chip manufacturers . G. Skill DDR5 does tend to run hot in my experience and it doesn't help that they don't put a thermal pad over the PMIC.

    • @Spinelli__
      @Spinelli__ 7 месяцев назад +4

      Don't even bother trying to explain. This guy knows nothing about RAM and overclocking in general. He's one of the biggest trolls I've ever seen.

  • @theredscourge
    @theredscourge 7 месяцев назад +5

    Why should someone who chases frames not talk about overclocking? Doesn't overclocking give you more frames?

  • @Spinelli__
    @Spinelli__ 7 месяцев назад +5

    At 7:53. Again, FC is correct...brand doesn't matter as long as the actual memory stick is identical. For example, with DDR4, it doesn't matter if you get Team Group, G.Skill, Patriot, etc. as long as the actual sticks "underneath" are identical (eg. dual-rank 2x 16GB Samsung b-die sticks). There might be some extra bonuses like, for eg., G.Skill includes a temp sensor when not all other manufacturers do.

    • @ColdVenom159
      @ColdVenom159 7 месяцев назад

      Cool story

    • @Spinelli__
      @Spinelli__ 7 месяцев назад +6

      Lol, what's your problem? Do you just give anyone and everyone who tries to correct and inform you attitude? You should appreciate info/education rather than having such a bad attitude. Loose the ego.

    • @ColdVenom159
      @ColdVenom159 7 месяцев назад +2

      @@Spinelli__ lmmfao no attitude here. No ego here either. You're the one who flexes 25yrs not me. All's I see is a guy with 33 subs up uploads nothing but video gaming talking about over locking. If flexing 25yrs of building rigs to try to justify what you say isn't an ego idk what is. Your average 5yr old can build a rig so stating 25yrs of doing it is nothing to boast about.

    • @Spinelli__
      @Spinelli__ 7 месяцев назад +3

      @@ColdVenom159 I never flexed about building and overclocking rigs for 25 years. You accused me of just being some gamer who doesn't know anything about OC'ing (even though I already sent you 5 paragraphs of info you probably couldn't comprehend) so I I just quickly stated my experience, that's all. You're the one trying to flex about 3D Mark scores and bringing up youtube subs, LOL

  • @mythbuster4315
    @mythbuster4315 9 месяцев назад +6

    When he said they're the same and it doesn't matter he meant they're all Adie and would overclock similarly. But ofc higher xmp kits like 8K and above are better bins

    • @ColdVenom159
      @ColdVenom159 9 месяцев назад +1

      No 2 sticks of ram will preform the same. No different then no 2 cpus nor no 2 gpus will preform the same. In no form are 2 sticks or kits the same.

    • @Spinelli__
      @Spinelli__ 7 месяцев назад

      @@ColdVenom159 Of course no 2 sticks of RAM will necessarily perform the same but that obviously also applies to two different same-model, same-SKU kits too. Generally speaking though, 2 kits with the same sticks, same ICs, etc. will OC and perform about the same regardless of if the "reseller" of those sticks is Patriot, G.Skill, Corsair, etc. and regardless of their preset "XMP" timings, speed, and voltage. You just don't get it, do you?

    • @ColdVenom159
      @ColdVenom159 7 месяцев назад

      @@Spinelli__ I appreciate that you're trolling the comment section lol. also appreciate that you refuse to answer anything I've asked you lol. Ultimately I appreciate you supporting the channel lol. U deff a fan setting out of the palm of my hand. I've yet to have a person that wants to act like they know something keep commenting like you do. I almost feel like I gotta do another give away and hand pick you for being great fan of mine. Thx u very much for the support on my channel, I'm literally watching the rating of the channel increase not to add the new subs I've gotten all while doing zero lol.

    • @Spinelli__
      @Spinelli__ 7 месяцев назад +1

      @@ColdVenom159 I don't care if your subs and ratings increase, decrease, or stay the same. Why do you always bring up RUclips subs in a discussion about PC RAM? Why do you always change the subject? Why are you incapable of comprehending anything regarding the subject (RAM / RAM OCing) at hand? Try responding to the actual subject instead of always talking about off-topic B.S. that nobody cares about. That fact you're not only obsessed about YT subs/ratings, but constantly deflect from the subject at hand to YT subs/ratings shows how ignorant, uninformed, egotistic, and immature you are.

    • @jeffturek3370
      @jeffturek3370 Месяц назад

      @@ColdVenom159he isn’t saying they are the same. He is saying that they will do the same thing. If you are loading up xmp then yeah one kit will be better than the other but if you tune them they are the same. If it’s cheaper and you can tune buy the cheaper ones and tune them. I don’t get it you say people are trolling but you aren’t getting what they are saying. I’ve always done that find the cheapest sticks with the die you want and tune them.

  • @amurtigress_mobile365
    @amurtigress_mobile365 5 месяцев назад +2

    It's Frame Chaser's ego and arrogance that repulses me instinctively. Laughing at others, besides everything else you pointed out, would just be the nail in the coffin for me.
    Rule for life: Never trust such boasty loud egomaniacs, no matter what it is about!
    Good that RUclips guided me to this video and not the original first. And Good that I have never heard about Frame Chaser before....
    TY for the video!

    • @ColdVenom159
      @ColdVenom159 5 месяцев назад +1

      np glad you enjoyed the video. tbh im waiting for fc to call me out for a challenge lol. im just waiting to wreck him on computers rather its overclocking or over all building. i dont need to ask for subs nor have money given to me to do either lol.

  • @austinmcbride7139
    @austinmcbride7139 9 месяцев назад +9

    Are you serious bro? You’re not the one to even try. You’re not even close. Stop. Do not even try to call out people who clearly have it more figured out than you do.

    • @ColdVenom159
      @ColdVenom159 9 месяцев назад +1

      Ya it's easy to talk its another to actually be doing it. I don't have to try anything I'm actually doing it, why not make content of your own see how it works out for ya?

    • @austinmcbride7139
      @austinmcbride7139 9 месяцев назад +3

      @@ColdVenom159 I don’t need to. Maybe you’re just pressed you got banned from the discord or sum.

    • @ColdVenom159
      @ColdVenom159 9 месяцев назад +1

      @austinmcbride7139 lmmfao I'm not even on his discord, not worth it. I'm so pressed that's why I don't depend on donations from people. I guess that's why I'm also in 1st place on every list I'm on on 3d mark while you're just talking. As I said talking is the easy part. My channel isn't about chasing frames tho speaks about overclocking then personally attacks people.

    • @ColdVenom159
      @ColdVenom159 9 месяцев назад

      10yrs on RUclips zero subs no content ahaahahaahhah, ya need to do alot more then try.

    • @ColdVenom159
      @ColdVenom159 8 месяцев назад

      @janoskiss8040 well I mean you could always start uploading content and show us all how it's done vs just talking. Talking is the easy part anyone can just talk.

  • @compumonkeys
    @compumonkeys 7 месяцев назад +1

    18:54 fact 100% agree! I'm a game technician for esport players and helped some coaches at my city. It's skills first not hardware and I would tell people to just be happy with 120-240fps anyways since anything past 144 is diminishing returns of point 0.milliseconds like 0.88ms improvements at 165hz from 144hz even in fps to hz to ms.
    The latency journey is way complex than what most people think, like dealing with the OS, peripherals, monitor, internet or LAN party networking.

  • @southbronxny5727
    @southbronxny5727 Месяц назад

    I saw dufus video before I just saw yours and I commented that the sticks can't be the same. I'm assuming the higher rated speed sticks are better bins....like binned cpu's and gpu's.
    I hate assuming because it usually means I'm wrong but that's how I think of it.

  • @666Necropsy
    @666Necropsy 9 месяцев назад +7

    this is pathetic

    • @ColdVenom159
      @ColdVenom159 9 месяцев назад

      Just like your comment. Man that was easy to come to an agreement.

  • @ronals2
    @ronals2 10 месяцев назад +1

    was it going from 37 to 38 because they need to be even numbers and thats why 36 worked im not really into this stuff that much but curious what you think

  • @Nerd-Freaki91
    @Nerd-Freaki91 6 месяцев назад +4

    use Karhu not f cinebench. and allso use vst in y-cruncher.

  • @surpriseblueviana3803
    @surpriseblueviana3803 2 месяца назад +1

    And this guy consult is from almost people that play COD

  • @Winnetou17
    @Winnetou17 6 месяцев назад +2

    I was about to complain that people STILL use MHz instead of MT/s ... but then at 6:28 when he said "first timing that's 32 miliseconds" I knew this guy has absolutely NO IDEA about what he's talking about. And no, it's not nanoseconds either. I can't be bothered to watch the rest of the video when such a basic thing is not understood. I would talk about what is and isn't but checking the other comments this guy has absolutely no desire to learn, just tells everyone that they're wrong with nothing to back it up. What a waste.

    • @ColdVenom159
      @ColdVenom159 6 месяцев назад

      Both mhz and mt/s are the correct terms. Elaborate for me if you wouldn't mind how one is gonna learn on somthing they have already corrected? You couldn't be bothered to finish watching the video but you bothered to type out a long dragged out commen that makes sense.

    • @Winnetou17
      @Winnetou17 6 месяцев назад +3

      @@ColdVenom159 MHz is correct when you say the correct number, which is half of MT/s.
      You already corrected ? I only saw the "meant nanoseconds not miliseconds" which is still incorrect. If you did, then my bad and good for you.
      The long comment is both venting my frustation on seeing someone so stubborn in its so-obviously wrong ways, and also a warning for others.

    • @ColdVenom159
      @ColdVenom159 6 месяцев назад

      @Winnetou17 you're a funny guy ram timing is usually in nanoseconds which is described as cl which is also known as latency. A basic Google search will tell you this. Same time to tho you can always make your own content and show us all how it's done.

    • @Winnetou17
      @Winnetou17 6 месяцев назад +3

      @@ColdVenom159 No, all those timings are in clock cycles. Which, coupled with the speed (the REAL MHz), you can then compute the latency in nanoseconds. If you did a basic Google search you would've known. And if you had some basic logic. Are you saying that all DDR5 are twice as slow as DDR4 ?

    • @ColdVenom159
      @ColdVenom159 6 месяцев назад

      @@Winnetou17 you just got done telling me even nanoseconds is wrong tho you just used nanoseconds in your your own comment. I'm done here.

  • @tamaskovacs4774
    @tamaskovacs4774 7 месяцев назад +3

    At your 6 minutes in the video - do you understand what Jufes is saying ? Of course should generally by the highest speed (and latency) at lowest voltage (and maybe also consider price) - that is a good advise by Jufes (to someone who wants to use the PC for example for gaming and as playing some games heat up the ram). For example, I rather take Samsung B-die DDR4 4000 MHz CL 16- 16-16 kit at 1,40 volt which I own (G.Skill) - and I have I also other 3 kits B-die (G.Skill) with other bins, and I also have other brands of ram and not Samsung (I have also several CPU-s like Intel: 10600K, 10900K, 12600, 12700K, 14700K. AMD 2700X, 3700X, 5700G, 5950X - two of those I am selling as some are my sons old parts), so I have played around with my ram kits with different processors. So, for example B-die DDR4 4000 MHz CL 16- 16-16 kit at 1,40 is normally better compared to maybe 4133 MHz CL 16-16-16 at 1,50 volt - because 1,50 volt is 0,1 volt over 1,4 volt and 0,1 volt increase for 133 MHz is a worse bin (because the 4000 MHz CL 16- 16-16 kit at 1,40 volt I can easelly overclock to 4133 MHz CL 16-16-16 and only need to increase the voltage to max. 1,45 volt with less heat than 1,50 volt).

    • @ColdVenom159
      @ColdVenom159 7 месяцев назад

      Cool story

    • @Spinelli__
      @Spinelli__ 7 месяцев назад +2

      Don't even bother with him. This guy's a total noob and mostly likely a gamer who just got into PCs recently. He doesn't even understand the basic concept of identical RAM sticks like, for example, a kit of DR Sammy b-die 3600 CL16 1.35 V being pretty much the same as a kit of DR Sammy b-die 4400 CL17 1.50 V. He talks about 3D Mark and Cinebench when it comes to RAM OC'ing. Prob has no idea about TM5, Karhu, Y-Cruncher, and Linpack Xtreme. When you try to put in time to explain and educate him on things, he just responds with snarky, bad-attitude comments and then attempts to put you down (and miserably fails at it). He doesn't understand 3/4 of what others are trying to explain to him and then totally misunderstands and takes out of context what other people who are actually informed about overclocking say (like he does with Frame Chasers).

    • @ColdVenom159
      @ColdVenom159 7 месяцев назад +1

      @@Spinelli__ yup I'm a total noob with years of videos on the stuff lol. Hey least I'm not like you saying I don't have a yt tho says I upload videos not knowing you can't be on yt without having a channel. Hope you got the link to your channel I posted for ya lmmfao. I'm so much of a noob ok so where do you sit on 3d mark? I know every list I'm on I'm still in 1st while your on yt literally just taking.

    • @Spinelli__
      @Spinelli__ 7 месяцев назад +1

      @@ColdVenom159 LOL, dude, you ARE a noob. Try listen to what you say in your own videos. It's nothing but feces coming out of your mouth. Go on a well known site like overclockers and post your thoughts there and then enjoy every one telling you how wrong you are. You have no idea what you're saying. I mean, just the fact that you don't understand the basic concepts of a RAM stick shows how uneducated you are, let alone the fact you don't even understand that Cinebench is absolutely not even close to a test of RAM stability.

  • @Mike220111
    @Mike220111 10 месяцев назад +2

    I used to be big on Corsair Ram, but now I find better with g skill, and it's cheaper, but it depends on what you're looking for. I have Trident Z5 Neo with no issue. People like that you are better off walking away from him.

  • @koford
    @koford 6 месяцев назад +3

    I don't think most people fully understand how weird Jufus really is. I can't even comment on videos he posts, the reason is very simple: He can't stand criticism and doesn't want others to see the comment. Have seen reddit articles about framechasers that have previously been in Jufu's discord and there are only people in there who do NOT understand overclocking and that is where he gets his money from. The sad thing is that they don't know any better and Jufus exploits them by making simple settings in the BIOS that EVERYONE can do. Earlier streaming done by Buildzoid where a participant asked if he could look at BIOS images made by Jufus and here Buildzoid responded.. in short, Jufus changed only one setting (volts + one setting in timing) and the rest was AUTO and he responded on the price. So yes, I know what kind of person he really is... double standards

    • @str8chillaxin
      @str8chillaxin 4 месяца назад

      You act like getting ram stable requires massive tweaking in bios. That's literally the best overclock possible is getting stable xmp out of box with decent voltages and only changing a few settings. I have done it often. He's getting paid to make sure it works without stuttering. I don't see how that's "exploit[ing]"

    • @koford
      @koford 4 месяца назад +1

      @@str8chillaxin Well, because he takes advantage of people who don't know any better, of those who do know this is not available there because then he loses money.
      Not only that, he doesn't want "good" people on discord because then he also loses money there. He wants "stupid" people on discord and convinces them that he understands better than you and me.

    • @str8chillaxin
      @str8chillaxin 4 месяца назад

      @@koford the man found a demand in the market for the skills he possess. There's absolutely nothing about that that screams "taking advantage of". Your take is childish and not very well thought out. The dude doesn't pressure or force people at all to pay for his services. It's not like he's a predator in sales or a con-artist. People just know that he has a reputation for making high end hardware work properly while staying stable for people who don't have the knowledge or time to learn themselves.. You could do the same and people would argue all day that you're taking advantage of people when you sound like you have a similar skillset already, but instead you're on RUclips comments acting like the dude's a predator because people give him money to fix their problems.

    • @koford
      @koford 4 месяца назад +1

      @@str8chillaxin What is not very well thought out? i point out the fact and you just trying to excuse him.

  • @terolaitanen
    @terolaitanen 10 месяцев назад +5

    Milliseconds, nope, it's nanoseconds. Millisecons would be slow as hell.

    • @ColdVenom159
      @ColdVenom159 9 месяцев назад

      Ya would of been smart of ya to read the description.

    • @ColdVenom159
      @ColdVenom159 8 месяцев назад

      @janoskiss8040 would help you next time to read the description before you start talking.

    • @ColdVenom159
      @ColdVenom159 8 месяцев назад

      @janoskiss8040 I would ask ya if you pretend to just talk, tho you literally do just talk lol. You tried to talk correcting me when I've already made the correction in the description. You're ignorance showed quite fast. Could I of edited the video and fixed the mistake absolutely how ever all my stuff is raw uncut. You're clearly impaired to only talking lol. Please tho keep responding You're giving me a free boost on RUclips lol.

    • @ColdVenom159
      @ColdVenom159 8 месяцев назад +2

      @@JDD_Tech_MODS i didnt delete anything. over all think what ya wanna it really dont matter to me. its always the ones with next to zero subs with next to no content with something to say. hows about you stop telling me how to run my channel and focus on your own as it could deff use some work. the videogames clearly arent working out for you.

    • @ColdVenom159
      @ColdVenom159 8 месяцев назад +1

      @JDD_Tech_MODS never watched your channel, sorry to hurt your feelings.

  • @Spinelli__
    @Spinelli__ 7 месяцев назад +2

    What you say around 5:30 about sticks with default speed & latency is very basic and anyone who's not a total noob knows this. They are the same stick though. They just have different XMP timings because one stick is binned higher and "guaranteed" to work at that higher frequency. As long as the sticks are the same - as in both being, let's say, single-rank 2x 24 GB Hynix A-die sticks (same ICs, etc.) - they'll almost certainly be able to overclock and have their timings tuned the same.
    For example, when buying dual-rank Samsung B-die DDR4 RAM sticks, you can buy a 3600 MHz CL16 kit 1.35 V kit, a 4000 MHz CL 15 kit, a 4400 MHz CL 17 1.5 V kit, etc. and they'll all be able to overclock and have their timings (primary, secondary, tertiary) tuned the same or almost the same so there's no point in paying way more for the 4400 MHz CL17 kit over the 3600 MHz CL16 kit (as long as you make sure you get the correct SKU # so you get the exact same dual-rank Samsung B-die DDR4 RAM sticks). Technically speaking, the 4400 MHz may give some people more piece of mind as it's guaranteed by the manufacturer (eg. G.Skill) to hit 4400 MHz whereas the others aren't but, really, any one of those kits will be able to do that - of course as long as your motherboard and CPU's IMC can handle it and your SA, DRAM, and VDDQ voltages are set correctly.
    I had the G.Skill Samsung b-die dual-rank 3600 MHz CL 16-16-16 -36 1.35 V kit. I sold it and purchased the G.Skill Samsung b-die dual-rank 4400 MHz CL 17-18-18-38 1.50 V kit. They both overclock the exact same amount and have their timings tuned at the exact same latencies. With my 12900KS, MSI Z690 Edge, they both do 4200 MHz CL 16-16-16-32 @ 1.60 V Gear 1. Well, they can both do it at lower voltages (somewhere in the 1.52 - 1.57 V range, I can't remember), the extra voltage is to get the insanely lower secondary and tertiary timings (one of the things the Sam b-die chips are famous for).
    Futhermore, at 4300 MHz (G1), both kits booted and ran Cinebench R23 fine but failed very stressful RAM tests (Karhu, TM5 Usmus, etc.).
    Not to mention, I'm 90% sure both kits' 4200 MHz (fully stable) is being limited by my 12900KS's IMC. Most people with DR Samsung b-die sticks can run 4300-4533 MHz (G1) with Intel 13th & 14th gen.
    Long story short, the DR b-die 3600 MHz CL16 1.35 V kit is/was much less expensive than the DR b-die 4400 MHz CL17 1.50 V kit but they both overclock and timing-tune pretty-much identically because they're identical sticks (Samsung b-die, same ICs, etc.).

    • @ColdVenom159
      @ColdVenom159 7 месяцев назад

      Nice story, don't take this the wrong way but stick to videogames lol.

    • @Spinelli__
      @Spinelli__ 7 месяцев назад +2

      @@ColdVenom159 I"ve been building and overclocking PCs for 25 years. Almost everyone in the overclocking community knows what I explained in my comments. Honestly, it seems like you're the one who's a gamer and new to OC'ing. Here I am talking about things like IMC, VDDQ, VCCSA, memory IC's, Karhu, TM5, etc. yet you try to make it seem like I'm tge one who doesn't know what he's talking about between us. Quit projecting, bro.

    • @ColdVenom159
      @ColdVenom159 7 месяцев назад

      @@Spinelli__ another cool story. You got far with your 33 subs sense you created your yt 10yrs ago. Less I'm mistaken I don't recall you leading any lists on 3d mark. I know every list I'm on I still hold 1st lol. I actually hardly ever game ;). I don't claim something I'm not.

    • @ColdVenom159
      @ColdVenom159 7 месяцев назад

      @@Spinelli__ oh an fun fact I never once said you didn't know what you're talking about. I'm over all just not gonna respond to a story lol. You tried way to hard to justify yourself.

    • @Spinelli__
      @Spinelli__ 7 месяцев назад +1

      @@ColdVenom159 LOL, 33 subs? Lol I don't have a youtube "channel" and the few vids I uploaded aren't even about overclocking. What are you, 12 years old? ....."subs"...lol, seriously? LOL

  • @UTFapollomarine7409
    @UTFapollomarine7409 3 месяца назад

    i really dont care about what RAM i use it all works when stable and on XPM yea some kits act up but i truly never had a problem with ram

  • @JaYgRiFfSTuBe
    @JaYgRiFfSTuBe 5 месяцев назад +1

    Man a lot of hate in you brother

  • @marcmathes41
    @marcmathes41 2 месяца назад

    hardcore oc guy here. i watch him and buildzoid lol. i had the vipers 4400mhz 32gig worth. i run a corsair micron ddr4 46000mhz kit i can get 4733 with tfaw16 and cl 18. micron is not that sensitive m8e

  • @Ironteeth1999
    @Ironteeth1999 3 месяца назад +1

    Your as bad if not worse than framechasers

    • @ColdVenom159
      @ColdVenom159 3 месяца назад +2

      happy to hear that, we must be doing something correctly if we givethose who wanna talk the ability to talk.

  • @ivanglavas9550
    @ivanglavas9550 7 месяцев назад +1

    Hi, I'm Ivan, how can I help you ?

    • @bp6927
      @bp6927 5 месяцев назад

      Is that his real name?

  • @rslatara
    @rslatara Месяц назад

    Lame chasers, he is not a nice guy. Very highly strung. He likes to be heard and likes to be right.

  • @tacticalcenter8658
    @tacticalcenter8658 10 месяцев назад +2

    CmdrSoyo: What Tech Reviewers (almost) always get wrong about RAM.
    Good one to watch.

    • @ColdVenom159
      @ColdVenom159 10 месяцев назад +1

      tbh man i really dont care to watch tech reviewers to much as well when ya get paid for your views you depend on those said views. it then becomes a case of say anything or do anything you can to get the money coming in completely losing the actual intrest at hand. when youre not making videos for views and youre not makng money off them you get the free will which is my case. i get to speak facts and prove what i say without the risk of losing money. im so tired of hearing tech reviewiers talking about subs likes patron ect ect. down side about not making money off this stuff is ita much harder for me to do videos on things like those who actually make money on the stuff, in this case i could as ive the same hardware being spoke on. kinda sad tbh as if more people know about this stuff tech reviewers would be losing alot of views. every single thing in my videos comes out of my own pocket, zero donations ect ect.

    • @tacticalcenter8658
      @tacticalcenter8658 10 месяцев назад

      @@ColdVenom159 watch his video. You'll learn something.

  • @johngalt8708
    @johngalt8708 10 месяцев назад +2

    i blocked him, he's annoying

  • @silfrido1768
    @silfrido1768 5 месяцев назад

    people only talk shit about something they can't get working....

  • @Denbot.Gaming
    @Denbot.Gaming 7 месяцев назад

    29:00 the dont always like odd numbers, jump in HWInfo and you should be able to see the list of frequencies the RAM has profiles for, man I wish AMD would do ram speeds like that

  • @EmersonFrench-t7i
    @EmersonFrench-t7i 7 месяцев назад +2

    To be honest, Never really like the guys media. When he made a comment about Big women? that really disturbed me. I was thinking what the hell am I even watching? this not about overclocking education about overclocking. It's about an idiot running his mouth acting like he is king of the tech world. I am not interested in starting or getting into fights with youtubers nor followers. I just want to learn more about stable overclocking and getting the bang for my buck. Don't care if it's AMD or Intel. I just want a fast system and some fun overclocking. Also When he was talking about the mans weight and I mean by how he made a comment about the man breathing? yeah that was telling me the guy is a tool and does not need to be on RUclips. I am just glade I am not the only one who see this disturbing.

  • @fracturedlife1393
    @fracturedlife1393 10 месяцев назад +1

    Form over function. Sexy AF

  • @merkedgg6322
    @merkedgg6322 2 месяца назад

    I think bro got banned from the discord 😂😂

    • @ColdVenom159
      @ColdVenom159 2 месяца назад +1

      @@merkedgg6322 I don't even have a discord try again. I wouldn't pay to listen to his garbage.

  • @airbossjrd
    @airbossjrd 2 месяца назад

    Dude this why you only have 77 views

  • @CrazyCranker
    @CrazyCranker 9 месяцев назад

    While I like the Framechaser's content, I'm more curious why he keeps the hardware that that viewer's buy for the testing? He never once had a giveaway, which to me is a borderline scam.

    • @ColdVenom159
      @ColdVenom159 9 месяцев назад +1

      the guy is a scam, over all hes a joke. he depends on his viewiers to give him money to do what he does. others who do give aways they di it as its part of the agreement the said content creater has with the sponsor. 1st clue that hes clueless his channel is based off gaming and fps which is his own words. tho hes trying to talk about hardware designed around xoc a level hes not even close to. difference between him and i well simple, i dont ask people to sub i dont ask for money everything i do 100% is out of my pocket there for i can do and say as io please with out the risk of losing subs or contracts with companies. rahter its car audio or computers ive gotten zero for free or paid from others. everything i bought with my money and i most deff dont edit my videos they are all raw uncut.

    • @LegionGamingTV
      @LegionGamingTV 8 месяцев назад +1

      Why wouldn’t he keep it? When you are creating content around CPUs and GPUs you need a wide variety of parts so you can go back and test them. Do you really think these guys run one benchmark and never use it again? He is always retesting.

    • @ColdVenom159
      @ColdVenom159 8 месяцев назад +1

      @@LegionGamingTV stick to your gaming benchmarks you have a nice start on them better keep them going. you clearly dont know what goes on in the benchmarking scene i mean those who really do it. hardware switches hands everyday. when youre doing benchmarks and are legit about it messing with different hardware you dont have time to keep messing with the same thing over and over. i do agree tho he shouldnt be doing any give aways lol he only askes his subs in nearly every video to give him money. hes getting his stuff for free for the most part.

  • @thefreecase
    @thefreecase 4 месяца назад

    John D, I am sorry to tell you, you made you look guiet uninformed without realizing.
    You may not like farme chasers, but I bet his gaming optimized PCs perform better than XOC peoples PCs.

    • @ColdVenom159
      @ColdVenom159 4 месяца назад +1

      lol I don't even have to really respond to what you said. you can't even get the guys name correct. it's "frame chasers" I'll gladly put my rig up against his any day of the week. on my daily settings he couldn't catch me if he tried.

  • @bigcazza5260
    @bigcazza5260 4 месяца назад

    if u think a ram fan simulates case airflow u have already lost this debate
    ram fan is king even in case so u can smash vddq to the moon and get mad low tCL/tRFC + maintain mad high tREFI on the daily
    i know more than you

    • @bigcazza5260
      @bigcazza5260 4 месяца назад

      btw that knowledge will cost u 20 bucks

    • @ColdVenom159
      @ColdVenom159 4 месяца назад

      You would have to bring some actual knowledge that carries value before you can start charging for it. In this case videogames isnt going to cut it. You knowing more then me about videogames that ill give to ya lol. Theres a reason why youre just talking about the stuff while some of us actually do it.

    • @bigcazza5260
      @bigcazza5260 4 месяца назад

      @@ColdVenom159 bold of u to assume i dont oc
      waiting for arrow lake for ddr5
      current ddr4 is 3800c14 dual rank
      ddr3 in spare is 2400c10 tri rank

    • @ColdVenom159
      @ColdVenom159 4 месяца назад

      @@bigcazza5260 never said you dont oc. everyone these days does a form of ocing lol. 3800cl14 is slow lol. i left ddr4 at 4000mhz at cl14. the gd old im waiting card havent heard that in a bit.

  • @airbossjrd
    @airbossjrd 2 месяца назад

    Dude do you know anything?

    • @ColdVenom159
      @ColdVenom159 2 месяца назад

      @airbossjrd you learn fast in life those who just talk to talk don't actually know anything hence why they just talk and don't actually do anything.

  • @Yahfz
    @Yahfz 10 месяцев назад

    lmao

  • @jonathankurz207
    @jonathankurz207 10 месяцев назад

    Great informative video brother!

    • @ColdVenom159
      @ColdVenom159 10 месяцев назад

      Thx you i appreciate the complement brother.

  • @DizConnected
    @DizConnected 7 месяцев назад +2

    When it comes to all things memory Buildzoid @Actually Hardcore Overclocking is the one person I ever listen to.

    • @ColdVenom159
      @ColdVenom159 7 месяцев назад +2

      Ya build zoid is pretty cool. No one said that you had to listen to everyone lol.

  • @darrelwright7343
    @darrelwright7343 7 месяцев назад +1

    Why u hating on juffes lol he has over 30k subs u got 250 subs come on man just stop. His veiwers are serious call of duty players that want the best gear and the most frames. I have 5900x 3080ti and amd sucks the amd dips in cod is REAL. But ur hating thats all somebody is but hurt. Make ur own content bro u using frame chasers for clout 😂

    • @ColdVenom159
      @ColdVenom159 7 месяцев назад +1

      Tbh your comment is to ignorant to really say anything to. Subs mean zero to me, 30k plus subs and you know they are all serious cod players. I don't think you grasp how ignorant that makes you look. Speaking facts on someone isn't hating. Not my fault you don't like facts. Interesting you tell me make my own content when over 95% of my videos is all my content. At this point I can say please tell me more. Congrats on your cpu and gpu. It means nothing to me. I would suggest you get your facts before to speak. It will help you out alot in life.

    • @christopherjames9843
      @christopherjames9843 6 месяцев назад +1

      Lol, using Framechasers for clout. The guy is a nobody and a scammer to boot.

    • @tstager1978
      @tstager1978 6 месяцев назад +1

      I like Juffes but he has a serious Intel fanboy problem. The AMdip that he loves to talk about is total bullshit.

    • @simplysimon966
      @simplysimon966 6 месяцев назад

      you wouldnt even know dips exist if you didnt measure them. if your good dips dont matter sounds like you blame your pc for being a noob..i have no issues with a 5900x at all

    • @darrelwright7343
      @darrelwright7343 6 месяцев назад

      ​@simplysimon966 u don't have to measure anything it's proven that amd sucks for cod but obviously ur a Amd fan boy 😂 do u bud couldn't careless