The Multi Frame Gen results in Dragon Age Veilguard from 18:51 are as follows: FG Off: 72.2 FPS Avg / 58.9 FPS 1% Low Basic Frame Gen: 109.7 / 92.9 Multi Frame Gen: 218.5 / 49.5 (Rivatuner) Multi Frame Gen: 218.5 / 163.8 (Frameview) All at 2160P Ultra RT, DLSS Q
you're boost clocks are really good, is it typical to see them hit 3 ghz ? According to the specs sheets Blackwell 2.0 is suppose to hit only 2.6ghz but I can see at 5:28 you are hitting 3ghz no problem. I'm just wondering. Hope you are well.
@@tqrules01 I’ve only tested this one 5080, so I’m afraid I can’t speak to how typical it is. As I said in the review, I can’t tweak the power target on my sample so I’m finding I can’t OC much more than 350-400MHz, which puts it at about 3250-3300 max. I dare say it could go even higher with the extra power, as it’s still only running at ~65 degrees even with the overclock.
@@tqrules015080 is an amazing over clocker unlike the 5090. I have seen JayzTwocents and Framechasers get 3.2ghz on the 5080. Its power limited on most cards though at 375w.
Except is promoting the pinnacle of what is wrong with this industry today. Not just that the 5080 shouldn't exist at this price point with this generational relative performance, but this is also the scam version of it. Everybody is complaining yet no one is willing to sacrifice a dime, it's absolutely ridiculous, sad and flattening.
This comment under the Hardware Unboxed review of the 5080 says everything you need to know about this card. (Not my comment): 3070 - 65% of the 3090 performance, 50% of the 3090 specs, 33% of the 3090 price - $500 5080 - 65% of the 5090 performance, 50% of the 5090 specs, 50% of the 5090 price - $1000 This is $670 (33% of the 5090 price) 5070 inside a $1k 5080 box and that's why it isn't even faster than the previous xx90. This is a daytime robbery. This is a scam.
I did some crunching of numbers based on Time Spy Extreme median graphics scores and MSRPs of various nVidia cards and found that the 5080 only offered 27% better price/performance in over 4 years compared to the 3080. The 3080 gave 72% better price performance over the 2080 alone , and 121% over the 1080. Stagnation is definitely a thing (as well as inflation which these numbers don't account for)
Looks like you have to OC these gpu’s for them to make any sense. Techpowerup has collected a bunch of overclock samples with several AIB models and the FE model, and on average (after an OC) they’re 25% faster than a stock 4080 super, and 20% faster than an overclocked 4080 super. This brings an OC’d 5080 right in line with a stock 4090. Still not great performance generationally, but it’s odd that the overclocking headroom is equal to, or better than the performance uplift over the 4080 super at stock.
From the Tales of the Scalper Pandemic, to the 6900 XT era. Now he's on to the day one edition cards? Its been an honor watching your growth over the years.
i know you like doing videos of older hardware and i started watching you partly because of that but i must admit, i love seeing you cover more recent and even brand new cards. keep up the good work! ❤
I don’t understand why people don’t state that the 3090 TI has the exact same hardware specs as the 5080 with the only thing being different is the L2 cache is larger, higher clock speed on the 5080 and the AI enhancements that being said the 5080 also only has 16 GB ofVRAM. Pretty sad offering by Nvidia in my opinion
Most likely just a bottleneck as it's too good for 1080p. My RX 6700XT wasn't all that utilised at 1080p either so I wasn't getting as high fps as it does at 1440p
The 5080 seems to really need that extra 500 mhz sometimes, even if it has 1,024 more Shader units 32 extra TMU 24 increase in ROPS 32 more Tenser Cores it seems the longer pipeline hurts this architecture in places, there are games where there is very little difference between the two, this tells me that Nvidia will use their drivers to most likely nerf their older 40 series. Thank you for this objective review. It gives a real insight in what things are before Nvidia's driver cooks start cooking the books. @14:06 that is pipeline saturation, where the gpu is fully loaded with instructions and it can't flush em fast enough causing that weird bottleneck.
id people bought amd and trusted them with gpus then they would be more inclined to make higher end competing cards. but people would still choose a 4080 over a 7900xtx cus "Muh Ray Tracing" even tho they themselves dont even use RT even with their nvidia card
I've had mine for 3 years now it's a zotac amp edition that can use 315w, I've got 2 noctua 120mm fans ziptied to it and ptm7950 I see 75c at most. With the stock fans and shroud it hit the 88c limit it has. Needless to say i like it a lot.
While I can’t say I found the noise objectionable, I’ve been toying with the GPU Tweak app for a little while and I think I see Roman’s point. The rear fan does add quite a lot to the noise profile, and turning it down in the app reduces the noise without significantly affecting the overall temperature. I think it would work just as well if they’d skipped the fourth fan. That being said, in a closed case in a system with an AIO, it’s not a big deal for me. As for coil whine, there’s a normal amount. I’ve heard worse.
@@Khloya69 I wouldn't believe that external report. They weren't thinking stupid high this gen. Now, I think people expecting $500 or $450 are high on copium, but it'll punch above its price class
@@JBrinx18 it won’t sell at $450, and it definitely won’t sell at $500. People would just pay 50 more for a 5070. It would have to be lower than $450 to have a chance at selling, but I think they’re going to try to price it at $500.
so i am looking to upgrade from my 12gb RTX 3080 (gigabyte aorus master ) to a newer card as it is struggling with modern pathtraced games even at 1440p without dropping to ultra performance at times... am i better off just grabbing a 4090 or would it be worth aiming for a 5080 when they are more readily available in the uk?
2:20 I put PTM7950 on everything, It's amazing. And only $20 for 80mm² sheet, which has so far done a 3080, a 7840u and an Alienware laptop CPU and GPU, I've probably got half of it left. I think its actually easier to apply and since it properly liquefies I don't need to spend all the time I used to spreading paste only to disassemble the card and find dry spots. Which now Nvidia took our hot-spot reading away worries me more.
Big scam. That's just a rebadged RTX 5070 using the glorified number 8 in it's name to justify costing $1000 while not bringing any proper performance gains over the RTX 4080. Also congrats on having access to new hardware at launch window.
A lil salty watching this video knowing that my 5090 pre-order likely isn’t coming any time soon, what were they thinking launching so close to Chinese new year?
Having watched this channel since around 25K subs, seeing how far things have come is wild! A review sample of a 5080, and an ASUS Astral at that. You really have made it Mr Iceberg. I hoped to buy a 5080 to hop back to team green and replace my 7900xt, but when it offers this poor of a performance uplift it’s really just not justifiable, and I really don’t feel like selling a kidney for a 5090
3:48 I went 7800X3D, which while in high demand I used the coupon to nab one for $380 after tax, although it seems 394 is what it's going for now. As it only uses 151 watts on PBO most B650 boards should power it and ala decent ID 620 SE or ThermalRight dual tower ought to cool it just fine, although I will attempt an ITX build with AXP120 X67, using a 25mm thick fan.
Good video, well done. Congratulations to ASUS for releasing a good card. I am still very curious to see what the 5060 series will be like and how much VRAM they will come with. IF under 10GB, they would be for me, DOA. Prices are not shown here yet, no one has a 50 series for sale (Greece), but the 4080 models don't go below 1270 euros and for me that's silly money, not just because I am poor. I am guessing the 5080 won't be able to be found for under 1500 euros, and you can build one hell of a PC with that type of money, though obviously not as good performing in the GPU department. I am one of those weirdos who have zero issue playing with 1080p and double digit framerate, as apparently playing at around 60fps and 1080p means you are blind or stupid. At least that's the vibes I am getting from most RUclipsrs and YT people at the comments of videos.
i feel like if they release a 5050 with at least 8gbs of vram for around 200usd and MFG might actually be a good selling point then, but knowing nvidia its gonna be like 250 or 300usd with a 6gb model later thats closer to 200usd which then doesnt work very well
@@IcebergTech it is very strange i saw 2 youtubers mentioned about 4th fans very noise, but I went to Chinese reviewer the fan noise seems pretty good, also I saw you also think is good. so I am totally confused, I bought one today.
Perfect time to do “Is 5950x worth it in 2025?” !! I’ve got a 3090 paired with mine and a 2080ti with my brothers. Definitely no budget to change platforms and no sense getting a 5800x3d I would LOVE to see this review and I think it’s time!! To much later and it really wouldn’t make sense to pair with a 600 series
Just hoping the 5000 series makes the 4070s cheaper... Been trying to upgrade from my gtx1080 for years ... But life and GPU prices have so far thwarted my efforts.
Today's games in tomorrow's hardware😂 congrats on the 5080 launch day sponsor iceberg, seems like it might be shorter than the original 10 years later for the 4090d review you told me
The Multi Frame Gen results in Dragon Age Veilguard from 18:51 are as follows:
FG Off: 72.2 FPS Avg / 58.9 FPS 1% Low
Basic Frame Gen: 109.7 / 92.9
Multi Frame Gen: 218.5 / 49.5 (Rivatuner)
Multi Frame Gen: 218.5 / 163.8 (Frameview)
All at 2160P Ultra RT, DLSS Q
you're boost clocks are really good, is it typical to see them hit 3 ghz ? According to the specs sheets Blackwell 2.0 is suppose to hit only 2.6ghz but I can see at 5:28 you are hitting 3ghz no problem. I'm just wondering. Hope you are well.
I have also benchmarked same gpu on 14900k and I can tell u it's almost same results
@@tqrules01 I’ve only tested this one 5080, so I’m afraid I can’t speak to how typical it is. As I said in the review, I can’t tweak the power target on my sample so I’m finding I can’t OC much more than 350-400MHz, which puts it at about 3250-3300 max. I dare say it could go even higher with the extra power, as it’s still only running at ~65 degrees even with the overclock.
@@IcebergTech Okay, that's amazing but considing the size of the cooler not surprising. You did a really good job on the testing, cheers!
@@tqrules015080 is an amazing over clocker unlike the 5090. I have seen JayzTwocents and Framechasers get 3.2ghz on the 5080. Its power limited on most cards though at 375w.
Card on launch day? You're moving up in the world
Sample card but it's a 50 series let's see how bud sells this
Generational uplift ❌
4080super oc restock ✅
Iceberg getting new cards to review this early instead of another mini PC, congrats!!!
I don't think you can call it a restock with such low supply
Minus the stock part.
"I don't know if this will be as succesful as overwa- "
- big butt shows up -
"Nvm" 💀
15:45
not big enough
I like big butts and I cannot lie 🎶
You other brothers can't deny 🎵
this makes me think about buying a 7900xtx
edit: where i am, while 5080 isn't available yet, cheapest 4080s is 1400 usd and 7900 xtx is 780 usd.
Same here.
5080 MSRP is 1169€ in Germany.
XTX currently sits at 909€ for a Merc 310.
I'm holding on for AMD's new cards - Hopefully they'll have decent performance, Price & power 👍
Great card, love mine
Hopefully the 9070 XT makes the 7900 XTX and RTX 5080 irrelevant
@@leviathan5207 get the sapphire @mindfactory for 900
As others have said, moving up in the world with a review sample at launch, congrats, you defiantly have been putting in the work for it
Except is promoting the pinnacle of what is wrong with this industry today. Not just that the 5080 shouldn't exist at this price point with this generational relative performance, but this is also the scam version of it. Everybody is complaining yet no one is willing to sacrifice a dime, it's absolutely ridiculous, sad and flattening.
This comment under the Hardware Unboxed review of the 5080 says everything you need to know about this card. (Not my comment):
3070 - 65% of the 3090 performance, 50% of the 3090 specs, 33% of the 3090 price - $500
5080 - 65% of the 5090 performance, 50% of the 5090 specs, 50% of the 5090 price - $1000
This is $670 (33% of the 5090 price) 5070 inside a $1k 5080 box and that's why it isn't even faster than the previous xx90. This is a daytime robbery.
This is a scam.
I did some crunching of numbers based on Time Spy Extreme median graphics scores and MSRPs of various nVidia cards and found that the 5080 only offered 27% better price/performance in over 4 years compared to the 3080.
The 3080 gave 72% better price performance over the 2080 alone , and 121% over the 1080.
Stagnation is definitely a thing (as well as inflation which these numbers don't account for)
BRO GOT A NEW CARD AT LAUNCH!
Congrats man, you've deserved to be on the front line for a long time!
HES GOT THE 5080 ALREADY?? crazy how this channel evolves, love it
Nvidia was thinking "we better send him the card or he'll do another miniPC review".
@gorky_vk good one, made me laugh hard
Holy shit, you've made it.
*Rather Big Card NO GAIN*
8% better than 4080 is ridiculous for that money
8% better than the 4080 Super*
Still would rather have the normal 4080 considering they’re around $800 right now where I live.
@@Kepler170700 for me on 2nd hand market
Looks like you have to OC these gpu’s for them to make any sense.
Techpowerup has collected a bunch of overclock samples with several AIB models and the FE model, and on average (after an OC) they’re 25% faster than a stock 4080 super, and 20% faster than an overclocked 4080 super. This brings an OC’d 5080 right in line with a stock 4090.
Still not great performance generationally, but it’s odd that the overclocking headroom is equal to, or better than the performance uplift over the 4080 super at stock.
Wrong information an overclocked 5080 beats a stock 4090.
From the Tales of the Scalper Pandemic, to the 6900 XT era. Now he's on to the day one edition cards? Its been an honor watching your growth over the years.
i know you like doing videos of older hardware and i started watching you partly because of that but i must admit, i love seeing you cover more recent and even brand new cards. keep up the good work! ❤
Congrats on getting a pre-release card!!!
I swear if the 9070 xt doesn’t hit 4090 performance, I hope they release a 9080 and 9090
I don’t understand why people don’t state that the 3090 TI has the exact same hardware specs as the 5080 with the only thing being different is the L2 cache is larger, higher clock speed on the 5080 and the AI enhancements that being said the 5080 also only has 16 GB ofVRAM. Pretty sad offering by Nvidia in my opinion
Wish the 4090 was included in the comparisons. Card is still $2k+ crazy.
Couldn’t afford to buy one for the comparison, sorry 😔
No wayy you got it
Normally I just skip through videos like this looking at the graphs, but your commentary is hilarious so I watched the whole thing
Is it 2020 again? We're back in a gpu scalping pandemic all over again...
Excuse me??
A god damned 5080 only reaches 100fps at 1080p despite no RTX????
Wtf kinda world are we living in!!?
Most likely just a bottleneck as it's too good for 1080p. My RX 6700XT wasn't all that utilised at 1080p either so I wasn't getting as high fps as it does at 1440p
Having seeing you go from covering mainly budget or old gpus to now the latest end stuff is incredible!
20:45 yor nvidia rep is definitely making a note of this. the spice must flow.
The 5080 seems to really need that extra
500 mhz sometimes, even if it has
1,024 more Shader units
32 extra TMU
24 increase in ROPS
32 more Tenser Cores
it seems the longer pipeline hurts this architecture in places,
there are games where there is very little difference
between the two, this tells me that Nvidia will use
their drivers to most likely nerf their older 40 series.
Thank you for this objective review. It gives a real insight in what things are before Nvidia's driver cooks start cooking the books.
@14:06 that is pipeline saturation, where the gpu is fully loaded with instructions and it can't flush em fast enough causing that weird bottleneck.
glad to see the channel grow! Hope it only grows from here
Nvidia needs more competition.
id people bought amd and trusted them with gpus then they would be more inclined to make higher end competing cards. but people would still choose a 4080 over a 7900xtx cus "Muh Ray Tracing" even tho they themselves dont even use RT even with their nvidia card
Never stop with the intro lmfao. So peaceful and hits hard for some reason. Love it.
Iceberg Tech now receiving review samples of flagship cards; congrats man
Remember whrn 1080ti was Pure 4K Card with Actual Great looking Games
Should I fix the car or get a 5080?
You're moving up in the world with getting carda to review, congrats!
I heard a lot of "needs upscaling", which I interpreted as "Nvidia's upselling"
DAMN, On launch? oh you really are moving up in this space
🎉Congratulation for the GPU!
Wow ROG RTX 5080 for a launch day review? Congregations! Hope you can keep the card
The fact its couple years newer card which is 80 tier and no were near last generations 90 class gpu? Is absolutely disgusting bt nvidia.
still holding on to my 1080ti...
I've had mine for 3 years now it's a zotac amp edition that can use 315w, I've got 2 noctua 120mm fans ziptied to it and ptm7950 I see 75c at most. With the stock fans and shroud it hit the 88c limit it has. Needless to say i like it a lot.
That’s your decision. Anything modern is an upgrade from that thing.
It's still a great card
Paper. Launch.
Iceburg on a day one release? 😮 colour me surprised
Congrats on getting sent a reviewers card my guy! I’m so happy to see this channel get the recognition you deserve my guy.
Congrats on the early review! Don't stop this train now! 😄
If it someday comes down to ONLY Greedvidia, I'm going back to board games.
Ngreedia*
happy to see our guy is getting cards at launch
Gosh I love the channel !!!
The 4th fan on the backside is awfully noisy, either tweak the RPMs or disconnect the fan entirely.
Curious if you experienced the same fan noise and coil whine issues as derbauer did with his Astral 5080?
While I can’t say I found the noise objectionable, I’ve been toying with the GPU Tweak app for a little while and I think I see Roman’s point. The rear fan does add quite a lot to the noise profile, and turning it down in the app reduces the noise without significantly affecting the overall temperature. I think it would work just as well if they’d skipped the fourth fan.
That being said, in a closed case in a system with an AIO, it’s not a big deal for me. As for coil whine, there’s a normal amount. I’ve heard worse.
@IcebergTech makes sense.
I am rebuilding my system having upgraded from 5950x to 9900x, I might try GPUTweak on my TUF 4080S instead of Afterburner.
AMD should still release a 9080 at the very least. It's a shame they are not having a go. Props for getting a sample for review.
They’ve accepted that they can’t compete on the high end, so they stopped trying.
You're going to be surprised how high they can go, particularly in RT
@@JBrinx18 so high that they had to panic and half the price?
@@Khloya69 I wouldn't believe that external report. They weren't thinking stupid high this gen. Now, I think people expecting $500 or $450 are high on copium, but it'll punch above its price class
@@JBrinx18 it won’t sell at $450, and it definitely won’t sell at $500. People would just pay 50 more for a 5070. It would have to be lower than $450 to have a chance at selling, but I think they’re going to try to price it at $500.
A 4 slot 5080 is nuts for it's power draw.
Simple thumbnail but good job, i like it
so i am looking to upgrade from my 12gb RTX 3080 (gigabyte aorus master ) to a newer card as it is struggling with modern pathtraced games even at 1440p without dropping to ultra performance at times... am i better off just grabbing a 4090 or would it be worth aiming for a 5080 when they are more readily available in the uk?
Finally, a reviewer I trust is reviewing the 5080
This gotta the worst novideo series yet. Basically just a 40 series refresh with extra fake frames to fool the consoomers.
wow! No way, congratulations on the card
(I don't get to keep it)
Looks like they reserved the real "performance bump" for a future Ti/Súper model
2:20 I put PTM7950 on everything, It's amazing. And only $20 for 80mm² sheet, which has so far done a 3080, a 7840u and an Alienware laptop CPU and GPU, I've probably got half of it left. I think its actually easier to apply and since it properly liquefies I don't need to spend all the time I used to spreading paste only to disassemble the card and find dry spots. Which now Nvidia took our hot-spot reading away worries me more.
Congrats!! New Card on launch day! 🎉🎉🎉
The IT lad has finally made it!
Wow, high end card on launch, you have grown big.
2:00 which as debauer found was worse than just having the fan disconnected
What are these 1% lows?
Don't drop Cyberpunk! Also "I'm not your dad... probably" 💀
Congrats on actually getting 5080 this early
I am really happy for you man.
It’s easy to get unlike the 5090.
should be called a RTX 4080 Super Duper
Damn, iceberg tech reviewing the cutting edge 😳❣️
Still using my trusty FE 2060 and 3060ti babyyyyyyyyyyyyy
I'll give you 50 bucks and a Dr. Pepper for it 😂
this new RTX 4080 Ti looks cool
You didn't mention the price? Or did I miss it.
I wasn’t given it at the time, but it seems to be £1519.99
Shout out to PTM 7950? U a real one my man
Big scam.
That's just a rebadged RTX 5070 using the glorified number 8 in it's name to justify costing $1000 while not bringing any proper performance gains over the RTX 4080.
Also congrats on having access to new hardware at launch window.
We are in the era of "just change the name" "increase the number by 1" "people know higher number means better duh"
Thought the title was gonna say "RTX 5080 in 2025. Is it worth it?" Lol
The PTM7950 comment felt like a shot at me lol I did that with my 7900xt. Great solution though
Actually, Forza Horizon 5 only uses RT in the accessibility settings menu and sometimes on a Tuesday when its the Winter Season.
A lil salty watching this video knowing that my 5090 pre-order likely isn’t coming any time soon, what were they thinking launching so close to Chinese new year?
Having watched this channel since around 25K subs, seeing how far things have come is wild! A review sample of a 5080, and an ASUS Astral at that. You really have made it Mr Iceberg.
I hoped to buy a 5080 to hop back to team green and replace my 7900xt, but when it offers this poor of a performance uplift it’s really just not justifiable, and I really don’t feel like selling a kidney for a 5090
Nailed it. Fantastic as always. 🤝
3:48 I went 7800X3D, which while in high demand I used the coupon to nab one for $380 after tax, although it seems 394 is what it's going for now. As it only uses 151 watts on PBO most B650 boards should power it and ala decent ID 620 SE or ThermalRight dual tower ought to cool it just fine, although I will attempt an ITX build with AXP120 X67, using a 25mm thick fan.
Good video, well done.
Congratulations to ASUS for releasing a good card.
I am still very curious to see what the 5060 series will be like and how much VRAM they will come with. IF under 10GB, they would be for me, DOA.
Prices are not shown here yet, no one has a 50 series for sale (Greece), but the 4080 models don't go below 1270 euros and for me that's silly money, not just because I am poor.
I am guessing the 5080 won't be able to be found for under 1500 euros, and you can build one hell of a PC with that type of money, though obviously not as good performing in the GPU department.
I am one of those weirdos who have zero issue playing with 1080p and double digit framerate, as apparently playing at around 60fps and 1080p means you are blind or stupid. At least that's the vibes I am getting from most RUclipsrs and YT people at the comments of videos.
Iceberg Tech reviewing something brand new? You've gone corporate! It used to be about the music, man!
I thought it said 580, and for some reason didn't even question it 😅😅
clearly he accidentally put an extra zero in there and this was actually a review of the RX 580
i feel like if they release a 5050 with at least 8gbs of vram for around 200usd and MFG might actually be a good selling point then, but knowing nvidia its gonna be like 250 or 300usd with a 6gb model later thats closer to 200usd which then doesnt work very well
I didn't know that you could even use Forza Motorsport for benchmarks. I thought that it was capped at 60 FPS?
Finally, the 5080 she tells you not to worry about 🤭
I'm chillin with my 3090
Man I avoid asus as much as humanly possible, but they have been on a roll with this cooler design and especially the strix 4090 cooler
fan nosie？any comment on that？ thanks❤
Hardly heard it over the case fans, tbh. I definitely noticed the AIO pump more in CPU-heavy games, I've grown accustomed to air cooling.
@@IcebergTech it is very strange i saw 2 youtubers mentioned about 4th fans very noise, but I went to Chinese reviewer the fan noise seems pretty good, also I saw you also think is good. so I am totally confused, I bought one today.
Why even test 1080 P, on this graphic card?!?!
bro folded the moment he saw sue storm cake😂😂
9:38 some needs to tell Nvidia to drop it as their de facto benchmark at this point 😂, they seem to love this game.
Perfect time to do “Is 5950x worth it in 2025?” !! I’ve got a 3090 paired with mine and a 2080ti with my brothers. Definitely no budget to change platforms and no sense getting a 5800x3d I would LOVE to see this review and I think it’s time!! To much later and it really wouldn’t make sense to pair with a 600 series
Video Idea: xx80 cards comparison?
1200euros minimum for what sound like an OC 4080 super
seriously ?
Nvidia 👍
Just hoping the 5000 series makes the 4070s cheaper... Been trying to upgrade from my gtx1080 for years ... But life and GPU prices have so far thwarted my efforts.
Iceberg tech looking at brand new 1000$ GPUs? How the times have changed
The face I'm making when I'm seeing a NV xy80-class card gaining only 10fps in a sub 100fps raster game
O.O or 😧
Beast of a looking card. Typical Nvidia cutting it down so much compared to the RTX 5090.
Today's games in tomorrow's hardware😂 congrats on the 5080 launch day sponsor iceberg, seems like it might be shorter than the original 10 years later for the 4090d review you told me
Ah yes, a 4080 Ti. 🤡
I'm happy with my 4080 Super.
Thanks for the quality content Ice, as usual.
We already bashed 5080 FE s for underwhelming performance. now imagine the ROG card price lmao