Too many people people just throw the term around without understanding any context. Like not every product from China is bad, just like not every product from anywhere else is good.
When we go to Hong Kong market grocery store. We are scared to eat made in China . Food from Thailand is best food, not poison or sewer oil. Older brands Made in Taiwan are higher than product of China bc China has pollution in air and water toxic
@@xhongnoiChina’s air quality has improved significantly and now has a lower PM2.5 level than global average, as China is now the leader in renewable energy(more renewable energy capacity than the rest of the world combined). Sewer oil was banned in China more than 10 years ago and can no longer be found. China now ranks the 25th in Global Food security index. The impression that things from China are bad comes from anti-china propaganda, lack of education and outdated information about China
Chinese manufacturing can produce any quality you want to pay for from very inexpensive to extremely high quality. Americans want cheap things and so American companies using Chinese supply and manufacturing buy cheap QA and sell the cheap spec'd products to Americans. It's Americans who have the cheapness issue.
You could've used this argument (that China likes to use) before many videos popped up showing high rise condos in China falling apart and crumbling, because it's made out of "tofu" material. So are you saying that this same principle applies to in China local manufacturing?. No. China skins on quality materials and product so that owner of factories can pocket the money and take expensive vacations abroad or live a bougie lifestyle. China is known for corruption. American manufacturing was known to last a lifetime - when have you heard of that to apply to Chinese product? Look at that one car China produced constantly catching on fire. Ask the Chinese living in China, how they feel about Chinese products and manufacturing.
If you think Americans have a cheapness issue, check out places like Africa where all the QA rejects get dumped on. When I lived there, I experienced regular power outages (transformer blowouts) and multiple fires (luckily promptly extinguished) because of Chinese manufacture that the locals thought was simply the cost of operation.
As someone who regularly buys and sells Chinese merchandise. It all comes down to the old saying… “You get what you pay for”. You can get high quality goods from China but you have to look for it and pay more. The market is saturated with cheap low quality goods cus that’s what sells the most through dropshipping and Chinese platforms. As a business, we want cheap products for better profit margins. As a customer, I want high quality but low cost. These 2 standards conflict cus people want what they’re not willing to pay lol If they were willing to pay, they would’ve saved themselves the hassle and get it domestically at an upcharge for convenience. Then again, that domestic place is probably getting it the same way and just being middleman.
Lenovo is a Chinese company but I find their laptops to be far superior than Dell's or Toshiba's. Easily double the product lifespan. Like all other things in life, the truth is always more nuanced. High quality goods aren't exclusive to the West and low quality goods aren't exclusive to China, or Asia in general.
tell you something interesting mate, the quality of the products Lenovo sells in China is much worse than those sold abroad. And it was the CEO of Lenovo who promoted the theory that “It is better to buy than to create, and it is better to rent than to buy”, and this theory has delayed the entire Chinese chip manufacturing industry.
It has to pass Western QA, involving near Western costs and often in-person Western oversight. A big reason purchase orders to Chinese factories are collapsing is because of the lack of trust in Mainland subcontractors without foreign outsider management who can spot check their work.
@@doujinflip Do you have data to support that the same type of manufacturing done on the same volume in China has a higher rate of error compared to another country?
It's very common when electric vehicles are discussed. When it's Tesla releasing an EV it's called innovative and visionary. When a Chinese company releases an EV it's always "Cheap". The term "cheap" is always used in a derogatory way. Non-asians just don't want to see Chinese doing well.
I also heard people immediately claim its a "knockoff copy" or a "bootleg" too. Though its not exclusively a sentiment towards Chinese EV vehicles. Some of the concepts involving EVs in China, especially charging them, are pretty interesting. For example, there's a concept for a dedicated service station with an option for a quick, 3-5 minute battery swap instead of having to park up and plug in to a terminal for a long while.
Chinese EV's are top of the class and their competition between each other has basically monopolized that market. Japan and US have basically given up on EV's entirely. Under Trump US will not pursue EV or renewable energy but just oil. Toyota is chasing after hydrogen fuel bs. European car companies are being outcompeted at price point by Chinese EV"s.
Xpeng electric cars look dope…..BYDs look mad cheap. Huawei Car copied the Porsche Taycan…. It really just depends on the brand. 😅 I hope China makes better cars, the market is so saturated with the bs carbon emission standards pushed by the EU.
Thailand is working out for you, you got that glow. Some people need to move to Europe for it. The most privileged are those who get it in college/early 20s when it matters most and don’t have to leave their country
I think that this was a fairly common sentiment about twenty five years ago but I dont think most people feel this way anymore.. Most of the stuff we get is from China - if it weren't for China we'd be paying like two thousand dollars for our cell phones!
This topic is similar to us don't want to claim our identity as chinese during the revolutionary or communist period when they are still very poor and developing. But now, everyone wants to be Chinese because they are successful and improving.
No they don't want to be Chinese, they want to eventually achieve certain aspects of the PRC without the one Party repression. Much like how they respect America's global marketability and genuine personal expressiveness without wanting to literally become like America.
Chinese drones, smart phones, EV cars, 5G/6G, robotics, action cameras etc are far from crap. They are leaders in their respective fields. Oh yeah Tesla use BYD blade batteries.
It’s kinda hard to dump the stereotype when the Chinese are literally serving up example after example every single day. Hell, they have entire Amazon like places dedicated to this crap. Have you heard of Wish, Temu, and Shein?
You pay for the cheapest stuff so you get the lowest quality. Most high quality stuff are made in China. China is the largest industrial power in the world, producing the most vehicles, electronics, home appliances, ships, luxury goods, robots, televisions etc. A lot of the things you don’t know are made in China are made in China(Buses in cities in America for example)
In the home gym would, Rep Fitness is pretty top tier. Autoart does well in model cars, and Rainy for mechanical keyboards. On the flip side, Boeing crashes their Max 8's. It's confirmation bias. You're asking all Chinese manufacturers to focus on high end products. If one manufacturer focus on budget options, then everyone will focus on that one manufacturer and say all Chinese products are crap. It doesn't seem that your ask is reasonable
A lot of countries, as they progressed, would increase the quality of the item. China, however, makes stuff at 1-10 bcos there's a market for everything. What does "this crap" like "Wish, Temu, and Shein" say about its consumers in the West and the way that the economies of their countries have been run in order for the Western consumers to turn to "this crap"?
The Chinese will make products to sell at different price points. The stuff they make to send to their space station won't be the same as that they send to Walmart. Just common sense.
What you said and encouraged us to do in the last minute of this video is 1000% correct. Thank you David for using your platform to help our community ❤.
Doesn't help that Xiaomi makes cheap white goods electronics that fail quite soon after purchase. but it all depends on context. German products used to have that reputation of producing/selling crap. "German Crap" was a thing and documented in historical writings until the Germans got embarrassed and did something about it. China can do the same by stepping up their quality control and aiming for quality rather than cheapness, but it's not there yet.
It’s not there yet? They are laughing in their spaceships and robots and drones. Just to name a few :) also. Your shitty country can’t produce anything, either good or bad. Accept that
More like Agglomeration Effect as facilitated by the PRC government, making Made in China the most convenient option. The quality of the average Chinese brand though is still sorely lacking, as the modern Mainland culture continues encourages choosing to shave off costs rather than grow their quality and reputation.
David, I do not know when your last visit to the mainland was but now that you are based in Thailand, I would encourage you to take a trip up North for a spin. I am a Hong Konger (and proudly Chinese) who spent years studying and working abroad (the UK, USA, Hanoi and Shanghai); even though I am back in HK, I still travel somewhat frequently to various parts of the motherland. While the gap between first and lower tier cities remains significant, the speed at which comprehensive development and technological advancement is taking place all over the country is just something few can comprehend. While your reading of China post 2020 is not wrong, I would say it is a couple years behind. Whether it is due to rising geopolitical tension, better consumer awareness, or the weaker economy, more Chinese people-especially younger ones-are increasingly ditching foreign brands for Chinese ones that consistently churn out high quality products; and not just in the electronics/EV/hardware spaces either. Since you play ball, I am sure you already know about the bang for the buck you can get with Anta, Li Ning etc. Chinese brands in the cosmetics (e.g. Mao Geping), fashion and other spaces are flourishing too. Chinese consumers have graduated to appreciate value-for-money and unique styles over the hype and bling of western brand names. Why buy BMW when you can get a much more reliable BYD Seal that comes with a ton more advanced features? Why buy some Nike Jas with just a dinky zoom bag and no torsion plate when you can get a pair of flagship Anta Kyries equipped with the newest foam and real carbon fibre shanks for the same price? Of course, scandals involving brands like Dior etc. only make Chinese consumers more clear-eyed. Finally, China is also upping its game in its weakest aspect - the use of soft power. Gone were the days when tourism ads parroted cliched content in a boring official tone; by offering visa-free travels to the world, the Chinese government has effectively let visitors market the country to their compatriots in their native tongues, through RUclips and other media platforms; in the process fostering real person-to-person exchange and dispelling false narratives presented by the West. Of course, cultural breakthroughs created by the release of entertainment/games like Black Myth Wukong and the upcoming Showa American Story help a great deal too.
I think those comments stem from the same place that racism comes from. Especially when you can hear the tone of disgust or hatred behind the words. Basically people who think (and speak) that way are just as narrow-minded and ignorant as racists are. If you stop buying products from China just because of a few bad product experiences in the past, you are missing out on extremely high quality products as well and usually at very competitive prices. I've been doing a lot of research in the solar industry right now and there are some cutting edge stuff of extremely high quality coming out of China, but there's also very poor quality products from there too. You just have to do your research and shop around.
The larger problem is cheap Chinese crap becomes the only choice as more expensive but durable alternatives are forced to close, not solely by market demands but also due to Chinese state supports of government-sponsored IP theft programs, below-cost electricity rates, exchange rate manipulation, and suppressing worker compensations.
Not everything from China is low quality stuff. I bought Chinese SSDs(Solid State Drives), Single Board Computers, lithium batteries, bluetooth headphones, flat panel monitors, network switches, network routers, circuit boards, drones, etc. I don't think those products were really that inexpensive, it is slightly less expensive, but it wasn't cheap. If I could buy Chinese smartphones and EVs, I would buy them. I can't buy it in the US, because they don't allow them in here.
Teamgroup ? Or is inland ok. SSD need consistent flash run windows and keep family photos long term. What is a ssd brand thats good for value in your opinion?
People don’t understand that China is now the largest industrial power in the world, with the most comprehensive supply chain and expertise. Most high-tech products and luxury goods come from China(solar panels, electric vehicles, lithium-ion batteries, drones, high-speed trains, LNG ships, advanced medical devices, luxury electronics, precision machinery, robotics, aerospace components, semiconductor packaging, graphene materials, OLED screens, etc). Many Western brands that market themselves as premium have their core components manufactured in China due to the expertise available there. Things that people don’t know are made in China are actually made in china. It’s crazy how only cheap temu stuff are recognized as made in China when they only make up a tiny percentage of what China produces
Back in college I had an interview for an internship with an older man. He didn't ask any interview questions and spent the entire time talking about things being made in China. I feel like if I wasn't a person of Asian decent we would've been having a different conversation. At the time all I could do was nod since I needed a job at the time.
they also say Chinese foods are crap but ignor the life expectancy in NYC Chinatown is 93.6 years - they say squatting is inferior but Chinese are less likely to die of colon cancer than the Europeans ( no mention of that obviously )
This is so different for me because my in laws come to America and finds everything under the sun that is made in China and raves about it and shits on everything that labels made in the USA….. 😅
After this most recent election here in the US, I think it might be safe to say the ABCs are perhaps a little bit overly sensitive to this term “Chinese crap” and most folks, including most Asian-Americans, don’t think much about the term itself. What comes to mind when that term is uttered isn’t the face or race of a person, but the object being described in question as having poor QC or seems very cheaply made that almost universally originates from mainland China. And… much like that very unfortunately proven true stereotype about mainland Chinese drivers not truly knowing how to drive, this term came about entirely because the quality of numerous goods imported from China were of subpar quality for several years. Only fairly recently (like past the year 2018) have goods from China started to have some decent amount of quality to them. If I’m not wrong, the Japanese had this issue for a few years back in the 1960’s - 1980’s. though from what I’ve read, thanks to Edward Deming in particular, they improved fairly quickly on QC of exported goods. What’s interesting is Chinese companies producing goods for American companies didn’t really learn from the Japanese’ past mistakes… they learned the hard way and are only fairly recently seeing the benefits of it. 😄
C'mon bro... we all know what the term means, and is not meant to necessarily speak on the people. A culture of making cheap knock offs, a lot comes from that side... but that's not to say they can't still make decent stuff because there is chinese company representation competing in the market around the world... if it was truly crap, you wouldn't hear a single chinese company competing well outside China or Asia.
As if your shithole can even build its own spaceship. China is THE only country that can build vessels in all types. What does your shithole country do in that department then?
I'm glad Fung Bros. are a voice for us hated Chinese Americans and anything Chinese in the world. It's been horrifying being Chinese American in the past 4 years, and in the past 15+ years. Every single day, I see nasty Amazon questions and reviews like, "CHINESE JUNK," or "this cheap crap is MADE IN CHINA!! Go buy a European brand." In fact, IKEA and H&M are some of the worst, poorest-quality, ugliest brands, and they're European. Made in Europe often seems to be poor quality, bad value, and ugly design. I've seen amazing stuff that's made in China that looks more expensive than it is. Cosmetics in China have been reaching dizzying heights in how beautiful, aesthetic, and unique they are. Chinese designers and makeup artists have a really good eye and vibe. Some brands are unique in having Chinese or Asian heritage in their designs that can't be found in other brands. There's a great deal of good design sense, quality, charm, and beauty in Chinese cosmetics these days. Same goes for other products, like fashion, accessories, tech products, and much more. Made in China often means good quality and aesthetics now, from inexpensive to pretty expensive, like from all countries. Chinese cosmetics range in price from e.l.f.-priced to prestige-priced, like the brands sold at Sephora. There's wide variation in Chinese price points, just like any other countries' products. To me, made in China today means much better than average, in every way. It's more likely to be higher quality, more innovative, and more aesthetic than brands made elsewhere. I go out of my way to purchase brands from China, and made in China, and sold by Chinese sellers, who can be the nicest and sweetest. Daiso isn't all that good. Minoso is way better. UNIQLO is pretty blah, and pricey for what it is. Take a look at the real China (and Taiwan/HK/Singapore) through real RUclips videos, Instagram, etc. China is gigantic, with great diversity, and many places in China are shockingly beautiful, modern, and convenient, with stunning infrastructure, and it's so easy, safe, and fun. Chinese people all over the world tend to be open-minded, kind, warm, multi-dimensional, intellectual, humorous, innovative, and some of the best people ever. It's a shame we're hated, stereotyped, and seen so incredibly negatively all over the world. Sometimes the best people in the world are seen and treated the worst. Where's the justice in that?
They can't deal with being outperformed by people who don't look like them. America loved to brag about being a "free market" up until TikTok outperformed American social media companies. The West pushed heavily for EVs and the green transition until they found out that China was at least a decade ahead of them in every area on that front.
I'm of two worlds here... someone in my family does corp relations between US and China and Taiwan. He constantly has to remind some dudes that if they bring their IP to China it won't be their IP anymore. And then I also understand that "Chinese crap" is imported and resold on Amazon by Americans. There are side hustle tutorials about how to bulk order from Chinese factories, resell on Amazon (with the free/prime shipping) and make a profit. There is some kind of complex consumer psychology ish going on here about capitalism and primal brain consumers, but I don't have the words or expertise for it. (edit: I just checked my favorite winter jacket: made in China. and my boots- Dominican Republic.)
It's a double edged sword. The Chinese brand I like the most is Lenovo because of their Thinkpad lineup. I have these laptops that last years without any scratch and battery life is still decent. Second Chinese brand I like is Huawei because of the Matepad. However, a lot of cheap and low quality stuff are still produced in China.
Please stop comparing the outdated Porsche to the latest high-tech EVs in China. In the era of software-defined vehicles, the days of old-fashioned German and Japanese automakers are numbered.
Funny how 'high-end' fashion label Balenciaga sneakers are made in China, yet they’re in celebrity wardrobes. 'Made in China' is setting trends, not limits!
The word “Racist” has lost its meaning. Just about everything now is considered racist which I don’t agree with. Me growing up in the 80s the word racist meant you don’t like someone and treat them differently because they’re from a certain background. Now you can get called racist because you can’t pronounce a name correctly which in this case has happened to me.
It is racist...racism is discrimination, condescension, hate towards another race. It's people like you who take away it's meaning by trying to take away the weight of it and what qualifies. People nowadays don't throw slurs around as much anymore cuz that's too obvious, so do it in other ways.
Alot of Temu products are of lesser quality, i guess you can call it reps or 1 for 1. But then there are exceptionally great quality products i'll post this shoe brand: Grant Stones (Made in China, American company)
Andrew, when will you travel to Chiang Mai/ Chiang Rai, Hua Hin, Pattaya, Ayutthaya, etc? The social issues are nice but I think your audience will also appreciate your take on different places and food in Thailand (and surrounding countries in future). Cheers!
Chinese companies and China need to stop promoting the "guess how much?" mentality and do promote "quality first" attitude at least as an outlook. It'll take some time to reverse the vector. In everyday life we can correct it whenever such statement surface little by little.
You guys need to talk about the Martial Law incident that is happening in South Korea, all global media is talking about it. In wanting to impeach the South Korean President. It is a hot topic globally and in South Korea. South Korean civilians are protesting for his impeachment. He just introduced Martial Law with no reason and no concrete evidence on his side. He's acting like an old man throwing a temper tantrum who just pressing the red button on South Korea. His own party and the opposition party are going against him.
I'll draw the line if it becomes a stereotype and it incites action that is detrimental. It's one thing to feel angry if you knew someone or have been that person whom were scammed by low quality goods. There are Chinese people who intentionally manufacture and sell low quality goods to make a quick buck, and I don't like people like that either. I just don't think it's right to assign a stereotype to the majority of people who aren't really trying to do these things.
South Korea and Japan no longer have an advantage over China in terms of products. Chinese companies are competing with South Korean and Japanese companies in all kinds of items, like smartphones, vehicles, ships, electronics, drones, batteries, flat panel monitors, 3d nand chips, semiconductors, solar panels, etc.
@@Ace1000ks in most countries around the world? So 90% of the world? And what countries - countries heavy with poverty like India, Philippines, etc. that can't afford apple and Samsung products? Western world and Europe doesn't use Chinese phones. You're just spe wing blatant lies
@@LovelyLittleLillies You're speaking from your own bubble and acting as if that's representative of the world. Samsung has a 20.9% market share, for Apple it's 14% and for Xiaomi it's 11%. One of the biggest smartphone companies in the world and you're acting like it's non-existent. Pure delusion.
I remember in the 1980's something would break and you'd say "Made in Taiwan?". Now they do the most sophisticated manufacture in the world. I've bought lots of good Chinese stuff. I've bought some really bad Chinese stuff. I think you guys need some sort of quality mark properly enforced that tells the customer what level of quality they're buying then you could charge a premium for the stuff that's actually well made. Certainly China still knows how to make many things well that the rest of the world has forgotten to make. In the past a lot of products were overengineered and not commoditized. Now there's a race to the bottom driven by consumers and large retailers that really ruins the margin and subsequently the quality across a ton of product categories.
"The people that use the term are so far removed fro the process and means of production, it is easier for them to discriminate quality based on country of origin than it is to make the far more accurate critique of companies making cheap products from exploited workers in places where labor can be found for cheaper with lower tolerances to specifications." The above comes off as a bit Marxist, but... The term "Chinese Crap" is overwhelmingly used by those who know little to nothing about production, manufacturing, specifications, industrial capacity, labor markets, materials, commodities markets, etc. It's lazy, but that's how ignorance works.
FDA allows for chemicals to be used in food and drinks that have been in banned in most of the world, including China, due to harmful effects on health. When Chinese citizens use illegal additives or gutter oil, they get severe punishments, which can include death penalty. That doesn't happen in the United States.
Wouldn't use the term racist. Has to do more with geopolitical tensions. There are also disturbing leaked videos about business practices over there. Combine that with censorship & the lack of transparency, it creates distrust. It's not just about product quality but also IP theft, the threat to domestic businesses who can't compete with their prices, potential loss of jobs, tariffs, regulations, trying not to piss off their govt by talking about Taiwan or Uyghurs, etc. Not about race.
Hayiaaaaa why second guess and give the "sleight of mouth" individuals the glee of hiding behind their gaslighting. The KEY question is their intent in their language and comments. Confront them, out their words back where their mouth is. Speak up by saying (do a quick quip) , "Yeah, there are China crap, but that's only because you get what your measly Dollars pay for Bro. But how about putting in more budget to get premium made in China stuff. Its all about the specs you pay for. Specs to specs. If you order from China, more bang for your buck. Unless of course you want to pay an extra premium for the American middle man snake that still sources from China" Confront their fake sleight of mouth. Discover their true intent. Shut them up and make the racist eat their own bigotry
These people should read more and enrich their knowledge. 1st if you want cheap, then you get cheap and crapy stuff. If you pay more then you get more quality. China make stuff according to the price you pay. People forget that alot of "high end" stuff they buy here in west have alot of components made in China. And laborcost is offcourse lower in China than West if you just only look at valuta. But think livingcost is in China ~7 times lower than the West, but for the Chinese 3000rmb/month is alot and can live a good live. Same as here if you earn $3000/€3000 per month, it's just middle income. Ask yourself, how can Wallmart or other west company can be so big and make alot of profit?
They're more talking about Chinese companies and products. Apple is an American company and its workers have to follow its guidelines to make products.
obviously racist. in the context he described, the term 'chinese' is disparagingly made synonymous with poorly made products. you could have just used the term 'crap'. why attach a descriptive race or nationality to it. of course, people will harp on semantics and say the speaker was talking about the country China and not the chinese people as a race. it don't matter. it's still bad. do think it's OK to use the term 'mexican thugs' or 'israeli mass murderers" .
@@jjsamuelgunn1136 for your comment on Indians. Indian men do not see marrying white women as marrying up. They date white women though. Even in the UK, they're rich and have been rich for generations yet you still do not see Indian men marrying white women. They also have lots of media attention here from politicians to singers to actors, but they generally choose to stay on their own. East Asians marry whites in London. Statistics prove this too. A good reason is religion. Indians are religious whereas East Asians are not.
@@jjsamuelgunn1136 for your comment on Indians. Most Indian men do not see marrying white women and definitely not East Asian women as marrying up. We don't even talk about East Asians. They're facially different from us. They're a foreign people. As for whites, many Indian men like pale skin but they don't like degeneracy either. They don't like western culture as a whole. They just assimilate enough but never fully. White women in the Indian media are portrayed as pornstars and easy. They are seen as loose and not marriage material. Obviously this is not true all the time but its a general perception they have.
Obviously not everythign made in China is terrible, but let's be honest, a lot of it is. People buy it is because it is cheap, then it breaks and you buy another one.
This is the real world. 1. Companies hire China to build their products, and give them the designs. 2. China build their products perfectly at the beginning, and send them back. 3. The products sell, but once it reaches a certain point, China begin to "skimp out" certain parts and materials to save money and to make the customers buy more when products break. 4. Customers complain. Companies report about them to China. 5. China gives "bonus money" to the top people of the companies to shut them up. However, China builds the products a little better. 6. Repeat
The problem for me is double standards and people just meme instead of providing constructive criticism and quantitative analysis. Chinese evs probably do have problems, similar to how 100% tesla cybertrucks needed to be recalled because the accelerator fell off, but the criticisms of chinese evs are just viral videos of with no context of statistics, no link to sources so that I can check if its not an old recycled video, etc. They always say "you can't trust the numbers coming out of china" which fine! BUT can you at least link people to reddit and independent youtubers from australia? Brazil? etc? Nope, they don't weirdly because everyone outside is paid too... WTF is this logic. You don't provide link to sources and you don't point people to the ability to research it themselves is a clear red flag
Its crap because they make it so cheap You get what you pay for Even with chinese stuff, pay more you'll find better quality control Pay less, get less
It's just with China they specialize in cheap First cheap textiles, then cheap plastics, now cheap electronic But they don't have to follow the same certification and quality standards like elsewhere Before plugging a Chinese electric product it's smart of you know how to reverse engineer it Might be a death trap
So cheap foreigners wonder how they even profit Though some brands now have better quality Chinese hdTV and smartphone are okay if you want to spend less than $200 usd and make sure you can run a custom ROM (to avoid the CCP spyware shit) How you think you can get 30-40$ USD smartphones? With 8 core CPU and stuff Can make low power and embedded risc based chips and interface chips But lack the ability to make desktop and high end chips like amd, Intel, sk hynix, tsmc, and sony
In that regard Chinese can make a probably make a 486,586, possibly 686 CPU Because they can't really make stuff under about 50nm fabrication Imagine a ryzen or i7 but they have to scale it up to 70nm, 90nm or 100nm That's a big power hungry and less efficient chip
70nm+ for something like memory card or microcontrollers that use 3.3 or 5v is easier than making a elsi (Extremely Large Scale Integrated circuit) chip like cpu and gpu which operate about 1.8 or 2v, smaller fabrication allows higher transistor and logic density per unit on the same wafer, and lower operation voltages
"It sounded racist." In other words, she didn't like the tone. And you can't necessarily infer a person's intent from their tone. This is why tone policing is fallacious. I'm sorry, but anyone who's trying to spin this as a race issue rather than a quality control issue is either playing the victim card or being disingenuous. The "crap" in question is referring to consumer goods, not people. Chinese products are generally known to be of mediocre or subpar quality. How is acknowledging this reality racist? If the truth offends you, that's a you problem, not a racial problem. The fact that Back to the Future acknowledged Japanese products as higher quality proves in and of itself that this has nothing to do with race. Blame Chinese assembly lines for giving themselves a bad name. If someone is cognitively incapable of separating "the words from the people," why should the rest of us be forced to water down our language just to appease them? This is how wokeness and cancel culture all originated. Don't cede a single syllable to these tyrants who hide behind their cloaks of pseudo-compassion. People don't think that China is incapable of producing high-quality goods. People know that China intentionally skimps on quality in order to save costs and stretch margins. It has nothing to do with ability and it has everything to do with basic economics. China knocks off other established brands? Ya don't say... It's almost like the Chinese are known for stealing American IP. We're well within our right to draw inferences behind someone's tone, but using tone as the sole metric to judge intent is wrong. This is an emotional appeal in the absence of reason. Both men and women will overlook red flags in a prospective partner if they think they're significantly punching above their league. This is kind of obvious. There's a reason guys will continually stick it in crazy or why girls have a storied history of being with f-boys. It is _not_ racist. And there is no validity to nonsense like "microaggressions." This is nothing more than self-victimization for the purpose of accruing undeserved social currency.
Try that pattern recognition with other races and see how they'll respond e.g. white people with incest, little kids etc. or black people with violent crime or israeli ppl killing civilians left and right in the Middle East etc.
Too many people people just throw the term around without understanding any context. Like not every product from China is bad, just like not every product from anywhere else is good.
also to sound cool around other's who's political view is to bash anything chinese...fearing that they'll stand out if they don't say anything similar
China fakes everything
Watch China Insider. He exposes Chinese made junk
When we go to Hong Kong market grocery store. We are scared to eat made in China . Food from Thailand is best food, not poison or sewer oil. Older brands Made in Taiwan are higher than product of China bc China has pollution in air and water toxic
@@xhongnoiChina’s air quality has improved significantly and now has a lower PM2.5 level than global average, as China is now the leader in renewable energy(more renewable energy capacity than the rest of the world combined). Sewer oil was banned in China more than 10 years ago and can no longer be found. China now ranks the 25th in Global Food security index. The impression that things from China are bad comes from anti-china propaganda, lack of education and outdated information about China
Chinese manufacturing can produce any quality you want to pay for from very inexpensive to extremely high quality. Americans want cheap things and so American companies using Chinese supply and manufacturing buy cheap QA and sell the cheap spec'd products to Americans. It's Americans who have the cheapness issue.
You could've used this argument (that China likes to use) before many videos popped up showing high rise condos in China falling apart and crumbling, because it's made out of "tofu" material. So are you saying that this same principle applies to in China local manufacturing?. No. China skins on quality materials and product so that owner of factories can pocket the money and take expensive vacations abroad or live a bougie lifestyle. China is known for corruption. American manufacturing was known to last a lifetime - when have you heard of that to apply to Chinese product? Look at that one car China produced constantly catching on fire. Ask the Chinese living in China, how they feel about Chinese products and manufacturing.
If you think Americans have a cheapness issue, check out places like Africa where all the QA rejects get dumped on. When I lived there, I experienced regular power outages (transformer blowouts) and multiple fires (luckily promptly extinguished) because of Chinese manufacture that the locals thought was simply the cost of operation.
As someone who regularly buys and sells Chinese merchandise. It all comes down to the old saying…
“You get what you pay for”.
You can get high quality goods from China but you have to look for it and pay more. The market is saturated with cheap low quality goods cus that’s what sells the most through dropshipping and Chinese platforms.
As a business, we want cheap products for better profit margins. As a customer, I want high quality but low cost. These 2 standards conflict cus people want what they’re not willing to pay lol
If they were willing to pay, they would’ve saved themselves the hassle and get it domestically at an upcharge for convenience. Then again, that domestic place is probably getting it the same way and just being middleman.
Lenovo is a Chinese company but I find their laptops to be far superior than Dell's or Toshiba's. Easily double the product lifespan. Like all other things in life, the truth is always more nuanced. High quality goods aren't exclusive to the West and low quality goods aren't exclusive to China, or Asia in general.
tell you something interesting mate, the quality of the products Lenovo sells in China is much worse than those sold abroad. And it was the CEO of Lenovo who promoted the theory that “It is better to buy than to create, and it is better to rent than to buy”, and this theory has delayed the entire Chinese chip manufacturing industry.
A blanket statement like that targeting an entire group of people should Not be Tolerated in a professional setting. Period!
The same “Chinese crap” ends up in iPhones. These people are ignorant clowns
And F35s apparently, I had a good laugh over that.
It has to pass Western QA, involving near Western costs and often in-person Western oversight. A big reason purchase orders to Chinese factories are collapsing is because of the lack of trust in Mainland subcontractors without foreign outsider management who can spot check their work.
@@doujinflip Do you have data to support that the same type of manufacturing done on the same volume in China has a higher rate of error compared to another country?
It's very common when electric vehicles are discussed. When it's Tesla releasing an EV it's called innovative and visionary. When a Chinese company releases an EV it's always "Cheap". The term "cheap" is always used in a derogatory way. Non-asians just don't want to see Chinese doing well.
I also heard people immediately claim its a "knockoff copy" or a "bootleg" too. Though its not exclusively a sentiment towards Chinese EV vehicles.
Some of the concepts involving EVs in China, especially charging them, are pretty interesting. For example, there's a concept for a dedicated service station with an option for a quick, 3-5 minute battery swap instead of having to park up and plug in to a terminal for a long while.
Chinese EV's are top of the class and their competition between each other has basically monopolized that market. Japan and US have basically given up on EV's entirely. Under Trump US will not pursue EV or renewable energy but just oil. Toyota is chasing after hydrogen fuel bs. European car companies are being outcompeted at price point by Chinese EV"s.
Xpeng electric cars look dope…..BYDs look mad cheap.
Huawei Car copied the Porsche Taycan….
It really just depends on the brand. 😅
I hope China makes better cars, the market is so saturated with the bs carbon emission standards pushed by the EU.
I mean... it is cheap materials they use so it's just speaking truth at this point. Lol😂
Cheap lol not when compared to the Pos tesla 😂 @@Forgivefull
Thailand is working out for you, you got that glow. Some people need to move to Europe for it. The most privileged are those who get it in college/early 20s when it matters most and don’t have to leave their country
I think that this was a fairly common sentiment about twenty five years ago but I dont think most people feel this way anymore.. Most of the stuff we get is from China - if it weren't for China we'd be paying like two thousand dollars for our cell phones!
true !
This topic is similar to us don't want to claim our identity as chinese during the revolutionary or communist period when they are still very poor and developing. But now, everyone wants to be Chinese because they are successful and improving.
"everyone wants to be Chinese"
Do you actually believe that?
No one like to be Chinese
No they don't want to be Chinese, they want to eventually achieve certain aspects of the PRC without the one Party repression. Much like how they respect America's global marketability and genuine personal expressiveness without wanting to literally become like America.
DJI is a good example of how Chinese quality has improved. A majority of RUclipsrs use their equipment now.
Chinese drones, smart phones, EV cars, 5G/6G, robotics, action cameras etc are far from crap. They are leaders in their respective fields. Oh yeah Tesla use BYD blade batteries.
Uh no. China fakes everything
It’s kinda hard to dump the stereotype when the Chinese are literally serving up example after example every single day. Hell, they have entire Amazon like places dedicated to this crap.
Have you heard of Wish, Temu, and Shein?
You pay for the cheapest stuff so you get the lowest quality. Most high quality stuff are made in China. China is the largest industrial power in the world, producing the most vehicles, electronics, home appliances, ships, luxury goods, robots, televisions etc. A lot of the things you don’t know are made in China are made in China(Buses in cities in America for example)
In the home gym would, Rep Fitness is pretty top tier. Autoart does well in model cars, and Rainy for mechanical keyboards. On the flip side, Boeing crashes their Max 8's. It's confirmation bias. You're asking all Chinese manufacturers to focus on high end products. If one manufacturer focus on budget options, then everyone will focus on that one manufacturer and say all Chinese products are crap. It doesn't seem that your ask is reasonable
Have you heard about their many rocket missions to outer space? None have crashed with crew aboard like the ill-fated Columbia spaceship tragedy.
A lot of countries, as they progressed, would increase the quality of the item. China, however, makes stuff at 1-10 bcos there's a market for everything. What does "this crap" like "Wish, Temu, and Shein" say about its consumers in the West and the way that the economies of their countries have been run in order for the Western consumers to turn to "this crap"?
The Chinese will make products to sell at different price points. The stuff they make to send to their space station won't be the same as that they send to Walmart. Just common sense.
What you said and encouraged us to do in the last minute of this video is 1000% correct. Thank you David for using your platform to help our community ❤.
Doesn't help that Xiaomi makes cheap white goods electronics that fail quite soon after purchase. but it all depends on context.
German products used to have that reputation of producing/selling crap. "German Crap" was a thing and documented in historical writings until the Germans got embarrassed and did something about it. China can do the same by stepping up their quality control and aiming for quality rather than cheapness, but it's not there yet.
the price is the reason they dominate the manufacturing market
It’s not there yet? They are laughing in their spaceships and robots and drones. Just to name a few :) also. Your shitty country can’t produce anything, either good or bad. Accept that
More like Agglomeration Effect as facilitated by the PRC government, making Made in China the most convenient option. The quality of the average Chinese brand though is still sorely lacking, as the modern Mainland culture continues encourages choosing to shave off costs rather than grow their quality and reputation.
David, I do not know when your last visit to the mainland was but now that you are based in Thailand, I would encourage you to take a trip up North for a spin. I am a Hong Konger (and proudly Chinese) who spent years studying and working abroad (the UK, USA, Hanoi and Shanghai); even though I am back in HK, I still travel somewhat frequently to various parts of the motherland. While the gap between first and lower tier cities remains significant, the speed at which comprehensive development and technological advancement is taking place all over the country is just something few can comprehend. While your reading of China post 2020 is not wrong, I would say it is a couple years behind. Whether it is due to rising geopolitical tension, better consumer awareness, or the weaker economy, more Chinese people-especially younger ones-are increasingly ditching foreign brands for Chinese ones that consistently churn out high quality products; and not just in the electronics/EV/hardware spaces either. Since you play ball, I am sure you already know about the bang for the buck you can get with Anta, Li Ning etc. Chinese brands in the cosmetics (e.g. Mao Geping), fashion and other spaces are flourishing too. Chinese consumers have graduated to appreciate value-for-money and unique styles over the hype and bling of western brand names. Why buy BMW when you can get a much more reliable BYD Seal that comes with a ton more advanced features? Why buy some Nike Jas with just a dinky zoom bag and no torsion plate when you can get a pair of flagship Anta Kyries equipped with the newest foam and real carbon fibre shanks for the same price? Of course, scandals involving brands like Dior etc. only make Chinese consumers more clear-eyed. Finally, China is also upping its game in its weakest aspect - the use of soft power. Gone were the days when tourism ads parroted cliched content in a boring official tone; by offering visa-free travels to the world, the Chinese government has effectively let visitors market the country to their compatriots in their native tongues, through RUclips and other media platforms; in the process fostering real person-to-person exchange and dispelling false narratives presented by the West. Of course, cultural breakthroughs created by the release of entertainment/games like Black Myth Wukong and the upcoming Showa American Story help a great deal too.
As someone whose family with ships. I even ditched western brands for my local Chinese brands. MaoGePing saved my skin.
As an Aussie Chinese I don’t care anymore how the Anglosphere media decides to portray us…
Yeah they will get over it, remember that the Japanese went through the same back in the 80s until the plaza accord
What do you mean "us"? If you're an Aussie, then you're not a PRC national. "Made in China" refers specifically to the PRC.
@@MayTheSchwartzBeWithYou C'mon mate, calm down
@@hunterbijukujo8937
Telling calm people to calm down is so 2005.
I think those comments stem from the same place that racism comes from. Especially when you can hear the tone of disgust or hatred behind the words. Basically people who think (and speak) that way are just as narrow-minded and ignorant as racists are. If you stop buying products from China just because of a few bad product experiences in the past, you are missing out on extremely high quality products as well and usually at very competitive prices. I've been doing a lot of research in the solar industry right now and there are some cutting edge stuff of extremely high quality coming out of China, but there's also very poor quality products from there too. You just have to do your research and shop around.
When people complain about cheap Chinese crap, I tell them that’s all they can afford
The way the economy is going, we're all going to be looking for cheap Chinese crap since we won't be able to afford anything.
The larger problem is cheap Chinese crap becomes the only choice as more expensive but durable alternatives are forced to close, not solely by market demands but also due to Chinese state supports of government-sponsored IP theft programs, below-cost electricity rates, exchange rate manipulation, and suppressing worker compensations.
100% it is today,. Especially because product quality has been so great recently. The new EVs coming out of china make european cars feel cheap.
Funny I watched on my 7 year old Huawei!
Not everything from China is low quality stuff. I bought Chinese SSDs(Solid State Drives), Single Board Computers, lithium batteries, bluetooth headphones, flat panel monitors, network switches, network routers, circuit boards, drones, etc. I don't think those products were really that inexpensive, it is slightly less expensive, but it wasn't cheap.
If I could buy Chinese smartphones and EVs, I would buy them. I can't buy it in the US, because they don't allow them in here.
China fakes everything
Teamgroup ? Or is inland ok. SSD need consistent flash run windows and keep family photos long term. What is a ssd brand thats good for value in your opinion?
@@xhongnoi I used to Samsung then Western Digital, and now I use Fanxiang exclusively.
People don’t understand that China is now the largest industrial power in the world, with the most comprehensive supply chain and expertise. Most high-tech products and luxury goods come from China(solar panels, electric vehicles, lithium-ion batteries, drones, high-speed trains, LNG ships, advanced medical devices, luxury electronics, precision machinery, robotics, aerospace components, semiconductor packaging, graphene materials, OLED screens, etc). Many Western brands that market themselves as premium have their core components manufactured in China due to the expertise available there. Things that people don’t know are made in China are actually made in china. It’s crazy how only cheap temu stuff are recognized as made in China when they only make up a tiny percentage of what China produces
Back in college I had an interview for an internship with an older man. He didn't ask any interview questions and spent the entire time talking about things being made in China. I feel like if I wasn't a person of Asian decent we would've been having a different conversation. At the time all I could do was nod since I needed a job at the time.
they also say Chinese foods are crap but ignor the life expectancy in NYC Chinatown is 93.6 years - they say squatting is inferior but Chinese are less likely to die of colon cancer than the Europeans ( no mention of that obviously )
This is so different for me because my in laws come to America and finds everything under the sun that is made in China and raves about it and shits on everything that labels made in the USA….. 😅
After this most recent election here in the US, I think it might be safe to say the ABCs are perhaps a little bit overly sensitive to this term “Chinese crap” and most folks, including most Asian-Americans, don’t think much about the term itself.
What comes to mind when that term is uttered isn’t the face or race of a person, but the object being described in question as having poor QC or seems very cheaply made that almost universally originates from mainland China. And… much like that very unfortunately proven true stereotype about mainland Chinese drivers not truly knowing how to drive, this term came about entirely because the quality of numerous goods imported from China were of subpar quality for several years. Only fairly recently (like past the year 2018) have goods from China started to have some decent amount of quality to them.
If I’m not wrong, the Japanese had this issue for a few years back in the 1960’s - 1980’s. though from what I’ve read, thanks to Edward Deming in particular, they improved fairly quickly on QC of exported goods. What’s interesting is Chinese companies producing goods for American companies didn’t really learn from the Japanese’ past mistakes… they learned the hard way and are only fairly recently seeing the benefits of it. 😄
C'mon bro... we all know what the term means, and is not meant to necessarily speak on the people. A culture of making cheap knock offs, a lot comes from that side... but that's not to say they can't still make decent stuff because there is chinese company representation competing in the market around the world... if it was truly crap, you wouldn't hear a single chinese company competing well outside China or Asia.
What about "Jap crap"?
As if your shithole can even build its own spaceship. China is THE only country that can build vessels in all types. What does your shithole country do in that department then?
I'm glad Fung Bros. are a voice for us hated Chinese Americans and anything Chinese in the world. It's been horrifying being Chinese American in the past 4 years, and in the past 15+ years. Every single day, I see nasty Amazon questions and reviews like, "CHINESE JUNK," or "this cheap crap is MADE IN CHINA!! Go buy a European brand." In fact, IKEA and H&M are some of the worst, poorest-quality, ugliest brands, and they're European. Made in Europe often seems to be poor quality, bad value, and ugly design.
I've seen amazing stuff that's made in China that looks more expensive than it is. Cosmetics in China have been reaching dizzying heights in how beautiful, aesthetic, and unique they are. Chinese designers and makeup artists have a really good eye and vibe. Some brands are unique in having Chinese or Asian heritage in their designs that can't be found in other brands. There's a great deal of good design sense, quality, charm, and beauty in Chinese cosmetics these days. Same goes for other products, like fashion, accessories, tech products, and much more.
Made in China often means good quality and aesthetics now, from inexpensive to pretty expensive, like from all countries. Chinese cosmetics range in price from e.l.f.-priced to prestige-priced, like the brands sold at Sephora. There's wide variation in Chinese price points, just like any other countries' products. To me, made in China today means much better than average, in every way. It's more likely to be higher quality, more innovative, and more aesthetic than brands made elsewhere. I go out of my way to purchase brands from China, and made in China, and sold by Chinese sellers, who can be the nicest and sweetest.
Daiso isn't all that good. Minoso is way better. UNIQLO is pretty blah, and pricey for what it is.
Take a look at the real China (and Taiwan/HK/Singapore) through real RUclips videos, Instagram, etc. China is gigantic, with great diversity, and many places in China are shockingly beautiful, modern, and convenient, with stunning infrastructure, and it's so easy, safe, and fun. Chinese people all over the world tend to be open-minded, kind, warm, multi-dimensional, intellectual, humorous, innovative, and some of the best people ever. It's a shame we're hated, stereotyped, and seen so incredibly negatively all over the world. Sometimes the best people in the world are seen and treated the worst. Where's the justice in that?
They can't deal with being outperformed by people who don't look like them. America loved to brag about being a "free market" up until TikTok outperformed American social media companies.
The West pushed heavily for EVs and the green transition until they found out that China was at least a decade ahead of them in every area on that front.
I'm of two worlds here... someone in my family does corp relations between US and China and Taiwan. He constantly has to remind some dudes that if they bring their IP to China it won't be their IP anymore. And then I also understand that "Chinese crap" is imported and resold on Amazon by Americans. There are side hustle tutorials about how to bulk order from Chinese factories, resell on Amazon (with the free/prime shipping) and make a profit. There is some kind of complex consumer psychology ish going on here about capitalism and primal brain consumers, but I don't have the words or expertise for it. (edit: I just checked my favorite winter jacket: made in China. and my boots- Dominican Republic.)
Think about this...which restaurants most likely to sell the lowest quality, pass expired, and even spoiled food?
It's a double edged sword. The Chinese brand I like the most is Lenovo because of their Thinkpad lineup. I have these laptops that last years without any scratch and battery life is still decent. Second Chinese brand I like is Huawei because of the Matepad. However, a lot of cheap and low quality stuff are still produced in China.
Please stop comparing the outdated Porsche to the latest high-tech EVs in China. In the era of software-defined vehicles, the days of old-fashioned German and Japanese automakers are numbered.
BYD, Huawei, Harmony OS, Chinese Space Station, C919 (plane), high speed trains, hydro dams, DJI, TikTok, WeChat, etc. 🕊 🚀✈⚡🚙🚢
Bro you look slick with that haircut 👍 keep it up
Funny how 'high-end' fashion label Balenciaga sneakers are made in China, yet they’re in celebrity wardrobes. 'Made in China' is setting trends, not limits!
Embarrassing
The word “Racist” has lost its meaning. Just about everything now is considered racist which I don’t agree with. Me growing up in the 80s the word racist meant you don’t like someone and treat them differently because they’re from a certain background. Now you can get called racist because you can’t pronounce a name correctly which in this case has happened to me.
That's because there's more dog whistles now.
It’s because you think you can hide behind being down low racism.
No matter how much you want to be, you’ll never be white so stop worshipping them so much.
It is racist...racism is discrimination, condescension, hate towards another race. It's people like you who take away it's meaning by trying to take away the weight of it and what qualifies. People nowadays don't throw slurs around as much anymore cuz that's too obvious, so do it in other ways.
Alot of Temu products are of lesser quality, i guess you can call it reps or 1 for 1. But then there are exceptionally great quality products i'll post this shoe brand: Grant Stones (Made in China, American company)
I love that David’s in Thailand, but where’s Andrew?
Andrew is still in the USA. He's in a relationship so can't move easily. David (I presume) is single. He's living the digital nomad lifestyle for now.
that's why to use moral superiority, washington is raising tariffs on Chinese stuff
Andrew, when will you travel to Chiang Mai/ Chiang Rai, Hua Hin, Pattaya, Ayutthaya, etc? The social issues are nice but I think your audience will also appreciate your take on different places and food in Thailand (and surrounding countries in future). Cheers!
Chinese companies and China need to stop promoting the "guess how much?" mentality and do promote "quality first" attitude at least as an outlook. It'll take some time to reverse the vector. In everyday life we can correct it whenever such statement surface little by little.
Why should they chang when theyre making money off of idiots?
It’s pure economies of scale
You guys need to talk about the Martial Law incident that is happening in South Korea, all global media is talking about it. In wanting to impeach the South Korean President. It is a hot topic globally and in South Korea. South Korean civilians are protesting for his impeachment. He just introduced Martial Law with no reason and no concrete evidence on his side. He's acting like an old man throwing a temper tantrum who just pressing the red button on South Korea. His own party and the opposition party are going against him.
Yup. Learn to set boundaries.
I'll draw the line if it becomes a stereotype and it incites action that is detrimental. It's one thing to feel angry if you knew someone or have been that person whom were scammed by low quality goods. There are Chinese people who intentionally manufacture and sell low quality goods to make a quick buck, and I don't like people like that either. I just don't think it's right to assign a stereotype to the majority of people who aren't really trying to do these things.
Will not be considered cheap crap once the huge tariff is implemented
South Korea and Japan no longer have an advantage over China in terms of products.
Chinese companies are competing with South Korean and Japanese companies in all kinds of items, like smartphones, vehicles, ships, electronics, drones, batteries, flat panel monitors, 3d nand chips, semiconductors, solar panels, etc.
Wrong. China fakes everything
And who's heard of Chinese smartphones? Samsung is still.as famous as Apple. Can't say the same about china
@@LovelyLittleLillies Maybe, not in the US, because they are banned. In most countries around this world, Huawei, and Xiaomi phones are popular.
@@Ace1000ks in most countries around the world? So 90% of the world? And what countries - countries heavy with poverty like India, Philippines, etc. that can't afford apple and Samsung products? Western world and Europe doesn't use Chinese phones. You're just spe wing blatant lies
@@LovelyLittleLillies You're speaking from your own bubble and acting as if that's representative of the world.
Samsung has a 20.9% market share, for Apple it's 14% and for Xiaomi it's 11%. One of the biggest smartphone companies in the world and you're acting like it's non-existent. Pure delusion.
I remember in the 1980's something would break and you'd say "Made in Taiwan?". Now they do the most sophisticated manufacture in the world.
I've bought lots of good Chinese stuff. I've bought some really bad Chinese stuff. I think you guys need some sort of quality mark properly enforced that tells the customer what level of quality they're buying then you could charge a premium for the stuff that's actually well made. Certainly China still knows how to make many things well that the rest of the world has forgotten to make.
In the past a lot of products were overengineered and not commoditized. Now there's a race to the bottom driven by consumers and large retailers that really ruins the margin and subsequently the quality across a ton of product categories.
Cook and Musk love Chinese stuff
"The people that use the term are so far removed fro the process and means of production, it is easier for them to discriminate quality based on country of origin than it is to make the far more accurate critique of companies making cheap products from exploited workers in places where labor can be found for cheaper with lower tolerances to specifications."
The above comes off as a bit Marxist, but... The term "Chinese Crap" is overwhelmingly used by those who know little to nothing about production, manufacturing, specifications, industrial capacity, labor markets, materials, commodities markets, etc. It's lazy, but that's how ignorance works.
I've personally owned 2 huawei phones, I can personally guarantee you they are far from being crap.
Have we forgotten the War of 1812? It's when US is overtaking the UK.
I feel your pain... but, truthfully, I am not traveling to China because of food scare...
watch what you eat in US. Onions, cucumbers, carrots, beef, eggs, dog treats are on FDA long list of contaminated foods.
FDA allows for chemicals to be used in food and drinks that have been in banned in most of the world, including China, due to harmful effects on health. When Chinese citizens use illegal additives or gutter oil, they get severe punishments, which can include death penalty. That doesn't happen in the United States.
Wow David start using filters once moved to south east Asia 😂😂 he’s adopting fast
I like going to the Dollar store and Walmart to buy high quality products. 😆
It’s a racist joke. Straight up.
lol they should be complaining to the manufacturer instead of China. No country can make quality products when they're given a shoe string budget.
Wouldn't use the term racist. Has to do more with geopolitical tensions. There are also disturbing leaked videos about business practices over there. Combine that with censorship & the lack of transparency, it creates distrust. It's not just about product quality but also IP theft, the threat to domestic businesses who can't compete with their prices, potential loss of jobs, tariffs, regulations, trying not to piss off their govt by talking about Taiwan or Uyghurs, etc. Not about race.
I find the Chinese normally send the decent stuff abroad but the crap they tend to give to their own people
But…Chinese do make nukes, amirite?🎉
China product brand: lois vuiton, nibe, cebook, suny, samsoong, colex, canhel, itachi, etc.....
Truth !!! MAGA🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸
Hayiaaaaa why second guess and give the "sleight of mouth" individuals the glee of hiding behind their gaslighting. The KEY question is their intent in their language and comments. Confront them, out their words back where their mouth is. Speak up by saying (do a quick quip) , "Yeah, there are China crap, but that's only because you get what your measly Dollars pay for Bro. But how about putting in more budget to get premium made in China stuff. Its all about the specs you pay for. Specs to specs. If you order from China, more bang for your buck. Unless of course you want to pay an extra premium for the American middle man snake that still sources from China"
Confront their fake sleight of mouth. Discover their true intent. Shut them up and make the racist eat their own bigotry
Get @davidFung to review a BYD while he's in Thailand. Its a car that will destroy any american made crap.
These people should read more and enrich their knowledge. 1st if you want cheap, then you get cheap and crapy stuff. If you pay more then you get more quality. China make stuff according to the price you pay. People forget that alot of "high end" stuff they buy here in west have alot of components made in China. And laborcost is offcourse lower in China than West if you just only look at valuta. But think livingcost is in China ~7 times lower than the West, but for the Chinese 3000rmb/month is alot and can live a good live. Same as here if you earn $3000/€3000 per month, it's just middle income. Ask yourself, how can Wallmart or other west company can be so big and make alot of profit?
You pay cheap money, you got cheap stuffs. iPhone is made in China too. No one say it’s crap.
They're more talking about Chinese companies and products. Apple is an American company and its workers have to follow its guidelines to make products.
I support Temu and Aliexpress always.
obviously racist. in the context he described, the term 'chinese' is disparagingly made synonymous with poorly made products. you could have just used the term 'crap'. why attach a descriptive race or nationality to it. of course, people will harp on semantics and say the speaker was talking about the country China and not the chinese people as a race. it don't matter. it's still bad. do think it's OK to use the term 'mexican thugs' or 'israeli mass murderers" .
@@jjsamuelgunn1136 for your comment on Indians. Indian men do not see marrying white women as marrying up. They date white women though. Even in the UK, they're rich and have been rich for generations yet you still do not see Indian men marrying white women. They also have lots of media attention here from politicians to singers to actors, but they generally choose to stay on their own. East Asians marry whites in London. Statistics prove this too. A good reason is religion. Indians are religious whereas East Asians are not.
@@jjsamuelgunn1136 for your comment on Indians. Most Indian men do not see marrying white women and definitely not East Asian women as marrying up. We don't even talk about East Asians. They're facially different from us. They're a foreign people. As for whites, many Indian men like pale skin but they don't like degeneracy either. They don't like western culture as a whole. They just assimilate enough but never fully. White women in the Indian media are portrayed as pornstars and easy. They are seen as loose and not marriage material. Obviously this is not true all the time but its a general perception they have.
If a buyer wants a 2 hammer you will get a 2 hammer.
Obviously not everythign made in China is terrible, but let's be honest, a lot of it is. People buy it is because it is cheap, then it breaks and you buy another one.
YES
This is the real world.
1. Companies hire China to build their products, and give them the designs.
2. China build their products perfectly at the beginning, and send them back.
3. The products sell, but once it reaches a certain point, China begin to "skimp out" certain parts and materials to save money and to make the customers buy more when products break.
4. Customers complain. Companies report about them to China.
5. China gives "bonus money" to the top people of the companies to shut them up. However, China builds the products a little better.
6. Repeat
3. Once it reaches a certain point, companies begin to skimp out and ask Chinese factories to reduce cost.
-FTFY
@@canto_v12 They're both true.
I prefer Chinesium.
I love chinese goods NO CRAP HERE 👌👍💪
yes racist, been saying that forever. No need to explain, but its tone and stereotyped.
The problem for me is double standards and people just meme instead of providing constructive criticism and quantitative analysis. Chinese evs probably do have problems, similar to how 100% tesla cybertrucks needed to be recalled because the accelerator fell off, but the criticisms of chinese evs are just viral videos of with no context of statistics, no link to sources so that I can check if its not an old recycled video, etc. They always say "you can't trust the numbers coming out of china" which fine! BUT can you at least link people to reddit and independent youtubers from australia? Brazil? etc? Nope, they don't weirdly because everyone outside is paid too... WTF is this logic. You don't provide link to sources and you don't point people to the ability to research it themselves is a clear red flag
Bring back aunt jemima
What happened to your brother??? 😮
Its a geopolitical thing. As if America and EU don't make crap product too. Harley Davidson, I'm taking to you, ya piece of expensive junk.
Its crap because they make it so cheap
You get what you pay for
Even with chinese stuff, pay more you'll find better quality control
Pay less, get less
It's just with China they specialize in cheap
First cheap textiles, then cheap plastics, now cheap electronic
But they don't have to follow the same certification and quality standards like elsewhere
Before plugging a Chinese electric product it's smart of you know how to reverse engineer it
Might be a death trap
So cheap foreigners wonder how they even profit
Though some brands now have better quality
Chinese hdTV and smartphone are okay if you want to spend less than $200 usd and make sure you can run a custom ROM (to avoid the CCP spyware shit)
How you think you can get 30-40$ USD smartphones? With 8 core CPU and stuff
Can make low power and embedded risc based chips and interface chips
But lack the ability to make desktop and high end chips like amd, Intel, sk hynix, tsmc, and sony
In that regard Chinese can make a probably make a 486,586, possibly 686 CPU
Because they can't really make stuff under about 50nm fabrication
Imagine a ryzen or i7 but they have to scale it up to 70nm, 90nm or 100nm
That's a big power hungry and less efficient chip
70nm+ for something like memory card or microcontrollers that use 3.3 or 5v is easier than making a elsi (Extremely Large Scale Integrated circuit) chip like cpu and gpu which operate about 1.8 or 2v, smaller fabrication allows higher transistor and logic density per unit on the same wafer, and lower operation voltages
Most of it is crap.
How is it crap when Americans can't even make it? They can only take it out of the boxes and put it on the shelves.
为啥要开美颜🤣
China Insider exposes Chinese made junk
Listening to China insider shows that you rely on someone else to do the thinking for you, since you're incapable of doing it yourself.
China made a great thing called monchichi long ago
He created life for all Chinese in Canada
First comment
"It sounded racist." In other words, she didn't like the tone. And you can't necessarily infer a person's intent from their tone. This is why tone policing is fallacious.
I'm sorry, but anyone who's trying to spin this as a race issue rather than a quality control issue is either playing the victim card or being disingenuous. The "crap" in question is referring to consumer goods, not people.
Chinese products are generally known to be of mediocre or subpar quality. How is acknowledging this reality racist? If the truth offends you, that's a you problem, not a racial problem.
The fact that Back to the Future acknowledged Japanese products as higher quality proves in and of itself that this has nothing to do with race. Blame Chinese assembly lines for giving themselves a bad name.
If someone is cognitively incapable of separating "the words from the people," why should the rest of us be forced to water down our language just to appease them? This is how wokeness and cancel culture all originated. Don't cede a single syllable to these tyrants who hide behind their cloaks of pseudo-compassion.
People don't think that China is incapable of producing high-quality goods. People know that China intentionally skimps on quality in order to save costs and stretch margins. It has nothing to do with ability and it has everything to do with basic economics.
China knocks off other established brands? Ya don't say... It's almost like the Chinese are known for stealing American IP.
We're well within our right to draw inferences behind someone's tone, but using tone as the sole metric to judge intent is wrong. This is an emotional appeal in the absence of reason.
Both men and women will overlook red flags in a prospective partner if they think they're significantly punching above their league. This is kind of obvious. There's a reason guys will continually stick it in crazy or why girls have a storied history of being with f-boys.
It is _not_ racist. And there is no validity to nonsense like "microaggressions." This is nothing more than self-victimization for the purpose of accruing undeserved social currency.
its not racist. its just pattern recognition.
Try that pattern recognition with other races and see how they'll respond e.g. white people with incest, little kids etc. or black people with violent crime or israeli ppl killing civilians left and right in the Middle East etc.
lol 2nd