@@skeeter3080I mean I seen a few government contractor on my base riding on them. Can recall how many they got but I know I’ve seen at least 6 in different areas. Gonna edit this I’ve also seen them on the standing ones but I’ve also seen them 5900s which is huge.
Problem I see is it's 77,000 dollars. Starting out. Can buy a nice kubota mx6000 60 horse tractor with a loader cab and ac and heat and a 12 foot bat wing for the same money. The kubota is is hydro static so it's easy to use. No shifting or clutches.
NOPE NOPE NOPE NOPE....these mower companies are flippin NUTS with the inflation and greed. I do not care if you call this a commercial mower its heavily over priced. I will get one when it falls off the back of the truck for $15k but you cannot justify $75k to $92k for a freaking mower
From another perspective…there is nothing to be angry about here. Im proud to live in a free country with a free market. If you don’t want/need a machine like this, you don’t have to buy one. The design, engineering, testing and construction cost of this machine is massive and it doesn’t exist without an incentive. If the price is too high, no one will buy any. If sales are good, competitors will enter the market and compete, driving price down. Thank you Toro for stepping up and giving those who value their time, above all, a really cool solution.
Guy says John Deere tractors are "complicated machines" that are "difficult to operate". Hmmm...... I really don't know anybody who left their career in particle physics to drive a tractor.
A tractor big enough to do a job like this machine is capable of, requires a dually gooseneck, a F-350, a CDL and a lot more experience. The 144” can be pulled with a normal landscape trailer, F-150 and operated by any homeowner who has a ever ran a zero turn with no further training
Way over priced. I really hope someone does a cost analysis on the purchase of this before buying. But it sounds like the only buyers will be places who don’t have to do one. ie.government,schools, universities.
The only people buying these are the analytical. This machine pays for itself in labor savings in 1 year. So you can profit an additional $75k a year every year after.
you can get 6 hustler 72s mowing at 15 mph for same price. ok you need 5 more guys but can cut 4 times as much a day if you really got that much to cut. or get one hustler and mow alone. even if it takes you twice the time vs this its at a 5th the price.
Good morning Chip I'm Brendon Toro Z Master 7500-D 144 20 degrees up and 15 degrees down 12' cut 17mph you're on to the next park or trailer 44hp Yanmar diesel engine 48" center deck with 2 48" wing decks
For $80K I could buy a brand new 50 hp tractor with turf tires and a brand new 15 or 17 foot tri deck finish mower. If you're mowing such a wide swath, I don't think you'll be needing a zero turn except for finishing. Alternatively, one could spend $75K on coke and hookers and $5K to pay someone else to mow the lawn for a year.
The wings on this 144 can bend 15 degrees downwards and 10 degrees upwards. That being said, I would be super careful using this on slopes because of how heavy this machine is.
I got to use one of the Exmark versions of this last year. It was fun to use on open areas but for a lot of what I do I felt like I would need a smaller one running as well because the 144" just simply wouldn't fit in many areas.
Everybody talking about price of everything i seen one or two trying to justify the manufacturer pricing . Do not be decieved just like the auto industry and everything else it is not labor or material cost that set prices . Prices are set solely by whatever the market will stand . Thats it . Here is an example two dodge truck s with identical build sheets one built in saltillo mexico the other st louis Missouri they both end up on the same dealers lot in say somewhere in florida , which truck is going to cost the most ? They cost the same other than maybe a slight difference in destiation charge . They dont care how much they have in it its just how much can they get someone to pay
@mainstreetmower I have roughly 3-4 acres, and again, who has 6K for a zero turn? It takes me roughly 3 hours to mow my yard, and I'm doing it with a 32". What this place needs is a 60" but even still that's 5K.... Why am I using a 32" because that was affordable
Man, people are seriously insecure about their deck size. I can imagine being able to fit that thing in around a bush. Where do you even put it. That'd be hanging out of most short sheds. And that's definitely not fitting in the back end of anything that hasn't had some serious work done to it. It'd take a pro to handle that and actually get the job done.
Meh. Hustler is a better mower and cheaper. Slightly less cutting width, but makes up for it by better a way better built machine. Toro is late to the batwing game.
This was fun to run across. First question was "how do you move it" and you showed raised "wings". Those were nice mentions about the rear discharge not going out on a street and not having stuff hit the operator.
It is expense, but worth it. If you have big open acreage to mow there is no better way. You can finance one of these 0% for 48 months, no money down for about $1600/ mo. and take 2 employees off of payroll
Price is irrelevant. If you cut big acreage it’s the most efficient machine to get the job done. I.e it cost less than 3-4 mowers with expensive employees sitting on them. Just because it doesn’t make sense in your situation doesn’t mean it doesn’t make sense for others. National sales numbers don’t lie, people need it. If competitor could build something like it for less they would.
I said something about one on tic tok might not have been this make but I said but what will it cut at 12’ and dude drove it into a 5-6’ tall corn field 😮😮😮
The blades only will probably run you $200 or more and if any part goes out it will cost half of what the mower costs. The dam thing probably costs about as much as a car 5:29
I don't think I could have clicked on "Subscribe" any faster. The last time I did that, she was from Poland, did reaction videos, and looked like Wonder Woman. The new one, not the old WW. If you make me smile, it's an auto-sub. You guys are on my level. And I don't even own any lawns! Well done. Looking forward to 2 hour-50 acre videos. LFG!
At 77 grand you can buy a full cab tractor and a pull behind and have something you can use for more than cut grass. It's just stupid what things cost. New truck with options is almost 100k, a house now average 465k.
Cheap version is two more engines, left-side right-side with a giant deck under each like sidecar pontoons for your rider mower. Not pretty, but you save $72,000
Idea to get you more subscribers: Tell your Clearwater location to drive down to Cleetus McFarlands new airport and offer up some sponsored solutions for him and loan him some equipment.
It's about time someone else did it. Hustler had it locked down for years. I spent 4 years on the same Hustler batwing and loved it. Damn things NEVER broke down. Now I've got a Bad Boy and a Country Clipper and so far the bad boy needed an engine at 2,300 hrs (Kohler🤦) and the CC is still going on original everything at 1,900 Kawasaki. I'm sure it's pretty costly let's just hope it lasts as long as that hustler did because I think it had around 3500 or more hours before I changed jobs
They have had batwing mowers.... for a long time. They are nice to mow around ponds and such. None of them cut particularly fantastic compared to a 60 in deck. Buy a tractor and finish mower and save yourself a down payment on a home. The tractor will work for decades.... the bat wings might make it through a decade... maybe.
@outdoorsdaily2576 if I left grass laying like I saw in the video, I would be out of business. Grass did not scatter well behind that machine. Sorry you disagree, but watch the video and the grass coming out the back.
I have a question - can you use this with only the centre section working or the centre section plus one of the side sections. I’m in the U.K. and don’t have a garden but I do love watching your videos now I have found them.
Nope; the sides are belt driven, as is the bottom, and the PTO auto locks out when the wings go up. It sucks because there are machines that can unfortunately this isn’t one.
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Who can afford to pay for it?
The goal is to get to the point where you can afford it and can justify the cost through savings in time and employees.
School districts. Parks departments, golf courses
@@cptbuiltk7944 taxpayer's money?
80000 dollars???????
@@skeeter3080I mean I seen a few government contractor on my base riding on them. Can recall how many they got but I know I’ve seen at least 6 in different areas. Gonna edit this I’ve also seen them on the standing ones but I’ve also seen them 5900s which is huge.
Problem I see is it's 77,000 dollars. Starting out. Can buy a nice kubota mx6000 60 horse tractor with a loader cab and ac and heat and a 12 foot bat wing for the same money. The kubota is is hydro static so it's easy to use. No shifting or clutches.
Yea that price is crazy.
And the Kubota can do other jobs
That kubota won't get suck in the slightest bit of mud like every 0 turn out there.
This is probably more intended for turf you don't want to damage with a heavy machine such as a large tractor.
Yeah, I just couldn't imagine dropping that much on something that only accomplishes 1 task.
My friend bought one less labor but it was a Exmark
Share this video with your friend. Would love to know what he thinks about this 144 vs his exmark.
Do i need it nope,do i want it,yup
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Yes isn’t that the truth that’s a Got to have item 😁😁😁😁😁
NOPE NOPE NOPE NOPE....these mower companies are flippin NUTS with the inflation and greed. I do not care if you call this a commercial mower its heavily over priced. I will get one when it falls off the back of the truck for $15k but you cannot justify $75k to $92k for a freaking mower
From another perspective…there is nothing to be angry about here. Im proud to live in a free country with a free market. If you don’t want/need a machine like this, you don’t have to buy one. The design, engineering, testing and construction cost of this machine is massive and it doesn’t exist without an incentive. If the price is too high, no one will buy any. If sales are good, competitors will enter the market and compete, driving price down. Thank you Toro for stepping up and giving those who value their time, above all, a really cool solution.
I’ll take a toro 4500D over that anyway , bigger base and also 4wd
Windrows the grass! If you don't mind rough and not a quality cut it's fine!
The cut is actually really nice in person. That grass was pretty tall but if you have an area that’s been cut regularly, it’s beautiful.
All well and cool, but $77k, are you fricken kidding me!! I could understand 20-25k but $77,000…get lost!!
Buy a 721x on a kubota tractor , 15 ft cut. Sorry
I was a toro tech 25 years ago, they had the 445 and the big 580, NOTHING NEW BOYS
Guy says John Deere tractors are "complicated machines" that are "difficult to operate". Hmmm...... I really don't know anybody who left their career in particle physics to drive a tractor.
A tractor big enough to do a job like this machine is capable of, requires a dually gooseneck, a F-350, a CDL and a lot more experience. The 144” can be pulled with a normal landscape trailer, F-150 and operated by any homeowner who has a ever ran a zero turn with no further training
At that price there are far better options for much less.
The bet that Bandit And Snowman made with Big and Little Enis would barely pay for this mower.
thats insane almost 100k for this thing
It's expensive but not at all close to that.
$77k is close enough
If you own a big business it's worth it. Especially if you're maintaining big properties.
It’s definitely for company’s, $92,221 is a hefty price
More than a nice kubota 60 horse hydrostatic drive tractor with a loader and a/c ,heat a stereo , full cab. Can buy a new mx6000 loaded for 58,000
at this point it doesnt even have any of the benefits of a zero turn anymore it takes the same space to turn around as a jd 1025
Couldn’t disagree more
Way over priced. I really hope someone does a cost analysis on the purchase of this before buying. But it sounds like the only buyers will be places who don’t have to do one. ie.government,schools, universities.
The only people buying these are the analytical. This machine pays for itself in labor savings in 1 year. So you can profit an additional $75k a year every year after.
For $79,999.99 I'll stay with my Ferris 61"and Lesco 60"
That's fair. Honestly, whatever works for you is the 'best' machine out there.
i feel like this thing should cost about 15k max. its basically 2 batwings that fall down.
I'm having a hard time getting just a 54 inch toro titan, got to keep saving, my super old timecutter is on its last legs. But this thing is amazing.
Keep at it, you got this!
Only $85,000 bucks? That guy traded in four Gravelys and still had to finance $75,000 😂
$82,999
You are talking MSRP, this mower is worth 8 fleet points, most buyers are going to be buying at fleet price which is ~ $70k
can you upload a clip of it working without music and talking
how does this beat a 10K used tractor with a mower trailer
operated the diesel exmark 96 for a while a bit back and those yanmar engines don't disappoint
Right. Yanmar's are a beast!
@@mainstreetmower those EFI gas engines with the red tech are some mean units too, i set off car alarms passing cars
@@49Percules haha love it!
@@mainstreetmower agreed! love like no other lol
not for 84,000.00
You are talking MSRP, this mower is worth 8 fleet points, most buyers are going to be buying at fleet price which is ~ $70k
Way Way over priced 🙄
Where can I get it? And how much does it cost?
You ca come by at any of our 3 locations in Central Florida. The mower currently goes for over 70K
The price is insane. I could see paying $40k for this and $30k for the 96 inch diesel version and $25k for the gas 96 inch.
Basically a bush hog at that point
you can get 6 hustler 72s mowing at 15 mph for same price. ok you need 5 more guys but can cut 4 times as much a day if you really got that much to cut. or get one hustler and mow alone. even if it takes you twice the time vs this its at a 5th the price.
Good morning Chip I'm Brendon Toro Z Master 7500-D 144 20 degrees up and 15 degrees down 12' cut 17mph you're on to the next park or trailer 44hp Yanmar diesel engine 48" center deck with 2 48" wing decks
My bad, that’s even better!
Leave them alone they got a badass mower
For $80K I could buy a brand new 50 hp tractor with turf tires and a brand new 15 or 17 foot tri deck finish mower. If you're mowing such a wide swath, I don't think you'll be needing a zero turn except for finishing. Alternatively, one could spend $75K on coke and hookers and $5K to pay someone else to mow the lawn for a year.
What about on slopes
The wings on this 144 can bend 15 degrees downwards and 10 degrees upwards. That being said, I would be super careful using this on slopes because of how heavy this machine is.
I got to use one of the Exmark versions of this last year. It was fun to use on open areas but for a lot of what I do I felt like I would need a smaller one running as well because the 144" just simply wouldn't fit in many areas.
That's fair. This mower is suitable for very specific needs.
Wow what a unit!
It feels incredible just to sit on a mower that big!
Everybody talking about price of everything i seen one or two trying to justify the manufacturer pricing . Do not be decieved just like the auto industry and everything else it is not labor or material cost that set prices . Prices are set solely by whatever the market will stand . Thats it . Here is an example two dodge truck s with identical build sheets one built in saltillo mexico the other st louis Missouri they both end up on the same dealers lot in say somewhere in florida , which truck is going to cost the most ? They cost the same other than maybe a slight difference in destiation charge . They dont care how much they have in it its just how much can they get someone to pay
Good lawd! Haha
Most people can't even afford a 60" let alone 12'
Here's a video on the latest 60" for you ruclips.net/video/vNcO6UtpSC4/видео.html
@mainstreetmower I have roughly 3-4 acres, and again, who has 6K for a zero turn? It takes me roughly 3 hours to mow my yard, and I'm doing it with a 32". What this place needs is a 60" but even still that's 5K.... Why am I using a 32" because that was affordable
@@mainstreetmower The video link you sent me was nice.
@@xXWILDBILLXx69 Glad you liked it 🙂
@@mainstreetmower I like a lot of things that are way out of my budget. Lol
Man, people are seriously insecure about their deck size. I can imagine being able to fit that thing in around a bush. Where do you even put it. That'd be hanging out of most short sheds. And that's definitely not fitting in the back end of anything that hasn't had some serious work done to it.
It'd take a pro to handle that and actually get the job done.
That would make short work of BIG yards that's for sure !!!!!!!!!!
Meh. Hustler is a better mower and cheaper. Slightly less cutting width, but makes up for it by better a way better built machine. Toro is late to the batwing game.
This was fun to run across. First question was "how do you move it" and you showed raised "wings". Those were nice mentions about the rear discharge not going out on a street and not having stuff hit the operator.
This mower is 3200lbs, you can fit it on a tandem axle landscape trailer and pull with a half town pickup.
A new house price
It is expense, but worth it. If you have big open acreage to mow there is no better way. You can finance one of these 0% for 48 months, no money down for about $1600/ mo. and take 2 employees off of payroll
Who's gonna pay $84,000 for a lawn mower?
You are talking MSRP, this mower is worth 8 fleet points, most buyers are going to be buying at fleet price which is ~ $70k
I think with the right kind of commercial account.The price shouldn't be an issue at all
Someone who has six figures worth of work for it.
Various types of wide area mowers have been around for a long time. Schools, parks depts., and golf courses are the usual applications.
That thing is amazing but for the price, I could have a tractor, a 14' finish mower and air conditioning in the cab.
I wish they would fit all riding mowers with the rear discharge..👍🏼
The torque on the clutch to turn those blades on has to be enormous . Not a practical mower high maintenance .
Wow my Husqvarna is 42 inches
i'll take it.
haha absolutely.
_$80k tho lml..._
Price is irrelevant. If you cut big acreage it’s the most efficient machine to get the job done. I.e it cost less than 3-4 mowers with expensive employees sitting on them. Just because it doesn’t make sense in your situation doesn’t mean it doesn’t make sense for others. National sales numbers don’t lie, people need it. If competitor could build something like it for less they would.
It's $100 grand. Dafuq. i could get a fleet for that
Why did you have to go and show me this. Now I have to get one. LOL!
Hahaha i totally know what you mean.
A self propelled bat wing. Who would have thought.
Toro 👼
I just want to watch the mower cut grass at normal playback speed, and hear the blades spin... why is that so hard?
It isn't. However this is not one of those videos.
Stop with the baboon boogie base already.
I said something about one on tic tok might not have been this make but I said but what will it cut at 12’ and dude drove it into a 5-6’ tall corn field 😮😮😮
haha I believe that. This mower's a beast
10-12 inches? haha more like 5-6
The blades only will probably run you $200 or more and if any part goes out it will cost half of what the mower costs. The dam thing probably costs about as much as a car 5:29
But a car won’t more 15 acres an hour, apples and oranges
@@mainstreetmower doesn't matter you can buy a tractor for what they want for that thing and have 4wd makes more sense apples and oranges
For $92000 it better blow me while i ride it
looks like 6 inch grass to me
for 92k i can buy a lot of 72" mowers and pay the kids down the road to mow my land.
That's a strategy, sure.
$77,000 for a lawn mower??
90 grand!!!!!!!!
You are talking MSRP, this mower is worth 8 fleet points, most buyers are going to be buying at fleet price which is ~ $70k
Love that cut!!! 😅
I don't think I could have clicked on "Subscribe" any faster. The last time I did that, she was from Poland, did reaction videos, and looked like Wonder Woman. The new one, not the old WW. If you make me smile, it's an auto-sub. You guys are on my level. And I don't even own any lawns! Well done. Looking forward to 2 hour-50 acre videos. LFG!
That's the best compliment we can get as video creators. Thank you Dr Detroit, you're the man!
At 77 grand you can buy a full cab tractor and a pull behind and have something you can use for more than cut grass. It's just stupid what things cost. New truck with options is almost 100k, a house now average 465k.
just buy a tractor for that price. That thing should NOT cost that much. More expensive than a beet harvester......
Cheap version is two more engines, left-side right-side with a giant deck under each like sidecar pontoons for your rider mower. Not pretty, but you save $72,000
Idea to get you more subscribers: Tell your Clearwater location to drive down to Cleetus McFarlands new airport and offer up some sponsored solutions for him and loan him some equipment.
It's about time someone else did it. Hustler had it locked down for years. I spent 4 years on the same Hustler batwing and loved it. Damn things NEVER broke down. Now I've got a Bad Boy and a Country Clipper and so far the bad boy needed an engine at 2,300 hrs (Kohler🤦) and the CC is still going on original everything at 1,900 Kawasaki.
I'm sure it's pretty costly let's just hope it lasts as long as that hustler did because I think it had around 3500 or more hours before I changed jobs
They have had batwing mowers.... for a long time. They are nice to mow around ponds and such. None of them cut particularly fantastic compared to a 60 in deck. Buy a tractor and finish mower and save yourself a down payment on a home. The tractor will work for decades.... the bat wings might make it through a decade... maybe.
I want this!
🙂
$84k and a divorce.. 😂
@@redblue40rc33 🤣
HAHAHA!
Can the wings be switched off independently? Or do you have to use the whole width the entire time?
I don’t think that’s following the 1/3 rule
The side benefit is the bugs will run for their lives out of fear!
You could hire your lawn mowed for life for 77k!!
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Can’t wait to see those side-by-side comparisons this year. I really hope you do the Toro against the Ferris.👍🏻
Well do our best
how does it do in a ditch or a hill?
one - upping bad boy with their 104 lol
That’d be the Hustler 104”
The cut quality is terrible.
No it’s not
@outdoorsdaily2576 if I left grass laying like I saw in the video, I would be out of business. Grass did not scatter well behind that machine. Sorry you disagree, but watch the video and the grass coming out the back.
It WAS way too tall.
I have a question - can you use this with only the centre section working or the centre section plus one of the side sections. I’m in the U.K. and don’t have a garden but I do love watching your videos now I have found them.
Nope; the sides are belt driven, as is the bottom, and the PTO auto locks out when the wings go up. It sucks because there are machines that can unfortunately this isn’t one.
@@libertarian1637 Thank you for your reply - now I know 🙂
Wow that's a big mower.
Wider than 1 and a half sahq's 😁
The price... BAHAHAHAHA
The least expensive way to cut wide open acreage
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Came here from Al Bladez. Keep up the good work.
Thank you 🙂