Hello from Reina kishin, guys. Seeing a lot of criticism here and although i don't agree with all of it, i really appreciate it. Hope i'll become a better player one day, cheers ❤
@kareemhamadneh5165 Thanks for the support! I'm so thankful to TMM for not shoving his flash in my stances. I think i know the matchup, but I'm so clueless about the flash. I tried to hopkick it, but it doesn't work :(
Nah forreal! Online I fought a Paul 2 sets in a row and didn’t realize it was a Paul until the last match 2nd set. Whole time I’m thinking I’m playing a bigger moded Law 😅
10:04 "What is he doing at this rank.... Best Kishin I ever seen 😮" Saying that while casualy gatekeeping his ass on stream is diabolical You had to be there for the his promo, this guy lived a nightmare 😢 RIP
Too much fundamentals for a yoshi player. A little bit more unblockables, flash spam on extreme minus frames and spins into whiff punish here and there and that’s gonna be decent yoshi
@@alexdano96 And how much of them he connected? For what dmg? If you know what you're doing the unblockable sweep is so easy to avoid/make it whiff for full launch punish. In case that you don't, well, consider that a knowledge check like for almost any other characters.
@@TheSubsistance I dont disagree, I main yoshi since tekken 7. TMM is playing with blue ranks, the way he plays yoshi he would get absolutely SMOKED in god ranks
@@TheSubsistance with other character i dont need to deal with a unblockable low that launch on hit. If you say this just a knowledge check then let kuma has his full charge db2+3 unblockable again
At 12:44 that combo and damage and even the set up he says balanced sarcastically but that damage is done by hayhachi, and Brian does that much damage and few others and the set up isn’t broken. That person wasn’t reacting to the unblock-able low, which is telegraphed, you can easily punish yoshi for a full combo if you react which is like most of the game.
How is the unblockable low telegraphed? The entire game teaches you to duck against lows, you expect that muscle memory to suddenly disappear against Yoshi? Yoshi can just as well do other mixups from crouch so I don't see how it's telegraphed.
@ there’s a massive purple spark from the sword mate. When I fight against a yoshi the second I see they use that move I start looking out for it. And can be full punished for calling that out. There’s a few other lows that are quick and lead to damaging combos. If you can’t react to that then you wouldn’t react to a general low. The yoshi has to first duck showing you he’s ducking then lifts his sword in the air and goes purple. It’s just as react able as a snake edge
@@erk489 By the time you see the purple spark it's too late to react, that is not telegraphing a move. Yes Yoshi first has to duck, but there is no guarantee he will go for the unblockable low. Just look at 29:05 for example. If it's so telegraphed why does it land so often at pro level?
I never understood why Yoshi has an unblockable launching sweep... Oh, beautiful Reina btw, would love to play against him, I don't play ranked but judging by my sets against friends at various ranks we should be around the same level.
@@roycearmani5760 Also flash should recover slightly slower, that Reina's kopkick on Main Man whiff was crazy on point but still not fast enough... it's so stupid.
@@simonzhang3D yeah until they duck one high that normally would only be punished by wr4, but there is enough recovery to make the sweep hit.... and take off a third of your health. There is not enough risk for the amount of payoff.
Crazy seeing how much weaker TMM is on Yoshi vs Heihachi. You expect him not to play at GoD level, but, his Yoshi is something you'd see in Tekken King.
maybe because he doesn't use all his good tools, and he doesn't seem to know the combos, or quality of life stuff like holding b on ws4 or d2,2 or manji 2,4 to go into nss mid combo to play neutral in nss or extend his combos properly. He was just running around with 5-6 moves, making a statement about his oki and unblockables. He is also harder than people give credit.
@@thejoekage9499There was also him messing up combos because of not registering the no sword stance. How you basically play a different character. It’s true Yoshi mains are nerds because if the opponent is expecting unblockables, then you won’t hit them with it. Honestly wished he punched parried more since Yoshi has a lot of simple and easy combos that give high damage. Dropped the ball on many combos this videos. Tekken 8 seems to have a lot of ‘broken’ characters and seeing Yoshi in TMM’s hands not IMMEDIATELY dominate made me feel better. I feel like he got humbled by everyone dealing with the sword sweep. Who knows. Maybe his opinion on Yoshi won’t be as bad anymore.
I feel like Yoshi shouldn't have a safe, normal launching DF2, on CH it's fine. In T7 he needed it, but in this game his B2,2 would be enough for long range whiff punish, and he already has a hopkick for close range. His DF2 is way too good.
@@Evilj82 For Yoshi's kit his DF2 is way too good, it's a safe, mid launcher into a billion dmg, combine it with B3/4 spin, don't even try to compore Yoshi to those characters you mentioned, you know you kinda have to put some work into those characters.
I could see a lot of unfamiliarity with Yoshi’s no sword stance here. Having to remember how his entire framework changes due to no low unblockable and two locked stances. Was fun seeing my second main going ham on unsuspecting players.
Lot of people downplaying tmms yoshimitsu in comments. I think hes just playin him to show case his absurd power while not being optimal like he did with dragunov.
3:26 that’s all you gotta do to stop the sweep. You can also side step. Some how that works. Or be just enough out of range. If you’re on the ground and you think he’s sweep. Literally just kick😂 yoshimitsu is not hard to fight.
Fact, he did dumb and predictable stuff, and it is not only Yoshi, but the other character tmm plays also, and then i hear "ooohhh, nice, this guy is very good"
@@streetfighter5430 okay wanna see you morons pick some random ass character you barely have played and without any practice n shit you hop into ranked against a 100 defense lee lmao lets see if you guys can hit any combo at all or do some "unpredictable stuff" u guys sound like you played 200 hours and think you are the big brains of tekken
everyone who think, that yoshi os broken, check his frame data. he literally don't have + on block moves, even high's. that character just can't play normal tekken. but combo damage might be too high, i agree.
It's reactable. If you react with the wrong action, that's actually "bad muscle memory". You can also, idk, KBD away and whiff punish it. Honestly the unblockable sword sweep hate feels like a lot of people who can't KBD.
@@BuBornham You can't backdash it if Yoshi is close to you. Sure maybe it's reactable, but the way to react to it is unnatural. No other low in the game works like this, which is why even pros fall for it. You have to undo muscle memory just for this one move. Just look at how many times it landed in this video. But the biggest reason it gets hate is that it leads to so much damage. You can delete half the opponents health off of this sweep, it is ridiculous. A hellsweep does not do nearly that much damage despite being more risky.
@@Bakfor look at how many times he whiffed it in this video though, or how many times someone REACTED to it WHILE CLOSE TO HIM. There is counterplay to it - people are acting like there isn't. Or that a move requiring DIFFERENT muscle memory specific to the matchup is something somehow unique to Yoshimitsu. Bryan has plenty of similarly reactable setups that lead to the same amount of damage, parroting copium from streamers doesn't change that these complaints can be levied at half the cast of the game. Really, he's just the flavor of the month thing to bitch about and it's being inflated by one of the biggest content creators in the space talking about it on a daily basis.
@@Bakfor You can backdash it if Yoshi is close to you, with a free punish if you do. Yoshi sweep and Mishima sweeps are the exact same damage output, same combo, same pressure, only difference it has an unblockable property. Bornham is right, sweep hate is only because people don't try to dodge it/think its unavoidable when its not even a certainty to land (if the opponent reads it/is good). I bet you've been swept by a Kazuya or Heihachi on wake up 100s of times but don't complain about it, when they are far more of a 50/50 flip than Yoshi's sweep is. Jump + whiff punish, backdash + whiff punish, sidewalk right + punish, you have options and can react on a read, the same can't be said for Mishima gambling gameplay.
Tip for Yoshi players against Reina: Her Sentai stance from ff2 (on block) is flash punishable. Well... Okay, it not really? But it might as well be. After knowing this, I have a very high win rate against Reina. Then again, I'm just a low rank Raijin player so take my words with a grain of salt.
It’s not, it just beats every option ( Including doing literally nothing ) besides Sentai 1, 2 ( Power crush ). It’s a mind-game thats just super disfavored on Reina’s side. Additionally, flash beats all Heavens Wrath options besides 1 and 1+2 ( One is a launchable high, the other is -14 power crush ). There is counterplay, but Reina just loses this matchup very, very badly. Most Reina’s will be essentially free points just by playing Yoshi.
where are the spammers..? dude, you're in EU. european players are well-known for being a pinnacle in gaming (also in KR & JP) but for the RoW, that's not really the case
Tried to avoid watching this video unfortunately the Ranked Gameplay was unblockable and I’ve now lost an hour of my life. You’ll be hearing from my lawyers.
To me, Bryan is the bane of all Yoshi because he punishes mindless offence. The only thing you can do is use Yoshi’s punch parry launcher and other defensive options to ‘play like a Bryan’… but most Yoshi mains would rather die fighting than lose with patience.😊
I think, that the way to balance Yoshi could be to lower his combo damage or damage overall and make the unblockable low a bit slower, so it can't be that good to use on neutral. But I would keep the flash the way it is, because in the video it just doesn't seem like that much big of a problem. This won't steal whole Yoshis identity and will allow him to use his strong Oki to back-up the lower damage. This way the damage won't be overtuned, Yoshi will keep his identity and won't be right off sent back to the bottom tier. And the unblockable low won't be that hard to counter.
@@mastergaming-wd4zh I mean, yeah on whiff it is kinda fair to make it a little bit slower to recover, but wouldn't do anything that much but that. I am not sure if even something like "flash on block" exists, because if the opponent is blocking the flash just doesn't hit you at all if I remember right and just whiffs.
@@shaNk9x Yeah that's true. I just think that the problem is not actually in the tournaments. It is in ranked. But I am not a good enough player to say if it is because the character is broken or because players just don't know the match up and how to counter him. You can see in this video that some players are capable of dealing with the unblockable low and the flash.
Main man yoshi aint so difficult..just gramics get people...u when see that purple powder thingy...he is going for the low launcher..i never talked tekken 7 or 8 but i see
"Yoshi is not fun to play against" Any character is not fun to play against when you get your ass whooped. Like I enjoy having every Kazuya wave-dashing my ass off every matchup. Like I enjoy ever playing against cookie cutter Jin baby fundamentals. Like I enjoy Drag's 2 moves on repeat. Like I enjoy King's phantom hit ranges. I think people just KNOW the Yoshi who beats you is having more fun than you do when you yourself win a match, which deeply bothers people who obsess over the timing of electrics.
The Yoshi players have been waiting since Tekken 3 for a buff that makes him competitive (especially those of us who played Tekken 6, where Yoshi was ultra low tier). It was about time. Main Man, I don't see the justification for all the complaints. Dragunov is the real imbalance in T8, and I don't agree with that point of view. Yoshi deserves some relevance for a change.
He listens to nobody, that's alright, but he desperately wants to people agree with him, yoshi was never s tier and now when he is he is crybaby, but Kazuya and Jin, or Nina and Xiayou are invisible
@@GelberDracheLP yeah, so its 26 frames, which means if this was blockable low, it would be easy to counter. But if you crouch block this you still be launched. The only counter play is hopkick or another type of air attack but keep in mind that hopkicks is not immediate, and usually more than 15 frames. Which means that you must react to that low much faster than 26i frames. (Even pros get launched by this lmao, so i think it's unreactable)
That flowchart Reina is a testament to how dumb she is. Besides the clutch back dash reads for the unblockable they pretty much threw everything in the sink at their controller. Flame Ruler in Kishin clothing 😂
That was what I was gon say lmao, people saying she was good but she's playing like a ganryu just spamming ff2 and mixup option and can't even finish a wallsplat combo xD
Crazy how people will say Yoshi is "overpowered" when half of his Twitch chat didn't even know that the low unblockable is actually unblockable. Then they'll say Yoshi is "overpowered" not that they lack matchup knowledge. "can't have fun against Yoshi" No wonder, Yoshi won't let you mash AND y'all don't even know what can and can't be blocked lmfao.
lol timestamp please? Where in this video there was a straight combo from unblockable sweep for 50%? Most optimized combos from it that is used by pros like eyemusician is ~55dmg max. Also did you see how easy it is to avoid that? Even TMM spamming it get maybe a half of attempts that were connected. This Yoshi hate from people with no clue what they're talking about is becoming annoying.
@ Here we go with the Yoshi meatrider, as always I am gawd of destruction with dvj and usually absolutely destroy Yoshis cause the players are ASS with no fundamentals, I know what I’m talking about when I say this character is a piece of crap
Bro really did the "if you cant beat em, join em" again
Oh Heihachi and Kazuya are hard? Just play Marduk, Geese, Yoshi, Jin. :)
That’s the tekken world tour
You have no idea how much people have asked him to play yoshi, so he did it i guess 😂
Honestly best way to learn a characters weaknesses is to play them
He's a TGS beating up inflated blue ranks....
Hello from Reina kishin, guys. Seeing a lot of criticism here and although i don't agree with all of it, i really appreciate it. Hope i'll become a better player one day, cheers ❤
No no you did great. Learn the matchup and have patience u will be perfect
@kareemhamadneh5165 Thanks for the support! I'm so thankful to TMM for not shoving his flash in my stances. I think i know the matchup, but I'm so clueless about the flash. I tried to hopkick it, but it doesn't work :(
I thought you did great, I’m a Garyu Reina and I hope to be this good one day 😂
@@WoFiN-fgasa ❤️
Me and you both are kissin, but we should be bussin.
TMM is too sane for Yoshi
Yup, not enough brainrot.
Yet.
He's already Tekken God with Yoshi
was really confused with Heihachi one looking like Bryan.
Hahaha me too i realised in the 3rd round its not bryan
Nah forreal! Online I fought a Paul 2 sets in a row and didn’t realize it was a Paul until the last match 2nd set. Whole time I’m thinking I’m playing a bigger moded Law 😅
When he did that hellsweep I jumped haha
10:04 "What is he doing at this rank.... Best Kishin I ever seen 😮"
Saying that while casualy gatekeeping his ass on stream is diabolical
You had to be there for the his promo, this guy lived a nightmare 😢 RIP
Too much fundamentals for a yoshi player. A little bit more unblockables, flash spam on extreme minus frames and spins into whiff punish here and there and that’s gonna be decent yoshi
Yes, i agree, Steve’s back 1 also need nerfs. You have press buttons
What you talking about man, im just 1 match in and bro is spamming the swordsweep against that reina like crazy lmao
@@alexdano96 And how much of them he connected? For what dmg? If you know what you're doing the unblockable sweep is so easy to avoid/make it whiff for full launch punish. In case that you don't, well, consider that a knowledge check like for almost any other characters.
@@TheSubsistance I dont disagree, I main yoshi since tekken 7. TMM is playing with blue ranks, the way he plays yoshi he would get absolutely SMOKED in god ranks
@@TheSubsistance with other character i dont need to deal with a unblockable low that launch on hit. If you say this just a knowledge check then let kuma has his full charge db2+3 unblockable again
Never thought I'd see main man playing yoshi, we truly are in dark times.
He played him early in the game. Lol
Yoshi is super fun 🤷🏽♂️
We all know xiaoyu is next
He played Yoshi after Paul I believe way early on. You’re super late buddy lol
@@Ambitioushero0 Doubt it Yoshi is at least cool xiao is super lame
Heihachi Fury is unsettling
or Bryan Mishima
The unblockable low is so OP… why is it in the game
When I seen bryan doing hellsweep I thought what the hell happening, and then realised
At 12:44 that combo and damage and even the set up he says balanced sarcastically but that damage is done by hayhachi, and Brian does that much damage and few others and the set up isn’t broken. That person wasn’t reacting to the unblock-able low, which is telegraphed, you can easily punish yoshi for a full combo if you react which is like most of the game.
How is the unblockable low telegraphed? The entire game teaches you to duck against lows, you expect that muscle memory to suddenly disappear against Yoshi?
Yoshi can just as well do other mixups from crouch so I don't see how it's telegraphed.
@@Bakforyep
@ there’s a massive purple spark from the sword mate. When I fight against a yoshi the second I see they use that move I start looking out for it. And can be full punished for calling that out. There’s a few other lows that are quick and lead to damaging combos. If you can’t react to that then you wouldn’t react to a general low. The yoshi has to first duck showing you he’s ducking then lifts his sword in the air and goes purple. It’s just as react able as a snake edge
@@erk489 By the time you see the purple spark it's too late to react, that is not telegraphing a move.
Yes Yoshi first has to duck, but there is no guarantee he will go for the unblockable low. Just look at 29:05 for example.
If it's so telegraphed why does it land so often at pro level?
@@erk489you know that Yoshi does have mix-up out of full crouching?
6:09 this guy's reina is good , but MMswe yoshi is also not good enough .
I never understood why Yoshi has an unblockable launching sweep...
Oh, beautiful Reina btw, would love to play against him, I don't play ranked but judging by my sets against friends at various ranks we should be around the same level.
Yeah that and the 1,1 counter hit launcher 🤣 that in and of itself is cringe lmao
@@roycearmani5760 Also flash should recover slightly slower, that Reina's kopkick on Main Man whiff was crazy on point but still not fast enough... it's so stupid.
@@gaetanoisgro6710 in 7 it recover very slow on whiff make it always be launch on whiff
hopkick??? its really reactable
@@simonzhang3D yeah until they duck one high that normally would only be punished by wr4, but there is enough recovery to make the sweep hit.... and take off a third of your health. There is not enough risk for the amount of payoff.
Bro is giving that Reina too much credit
Who is ur main?
@@simoneraiteri9787 Lidia now, used to main Reina.
@@simoneraiteri9787 Lidia now, used to main Reina
Lidia now, used to main Reina
@@danhonorem so only rushdown characters, i see :)
You can tell mm doesnt play yoshi because he isnt using flash 6 times a round
Crazy seeing how much weaker TMM is on Yoshi vs Heihachi.
You expect him not to play at GoD level, but, his Yoshi is something you'd see in Tekken King.
maybe because he doesn't use all his good tools, and he doesn't seem to know the combos, or quality of life stuff like holding b on ws4 or d2,2 or manji 2,4 to go into nss mid combo to play neutral in nss or extend his combos properly. He was just running around with 5-6 moves, making a statement about his oki and unblockables. He is also harder than people give credit.
@@thejoekage9499There was also him messing up combos because of not registering the no sword stance. How you basically play a different character. It’s true Yoshi mains are nerds because if the opponent is expecting unblockables, then you won’t hit them with it.
Honestly wished he punched parried more since Yoshi has a lot of simple and easy combos that give high damage. Dropped the ball on many combos this videos.
Tekken 8 seems to have a lot of ‘broken’ characters and seeing Yoshi in TMM’s hands not IMMEDIATELY dominate made me feel better. I feel like he got humbled by everyone dealing with the sword sweep.
Who knows. Maybe his opinion on Yoshi won’t be as bad anymore.
Yeah no shit he' a mishima main.
@@jackyv626 the point of the comment is that he has made several comments that Yoshi is the best character in the game.
@@TheR1zzard0f0z i don't see how that prove anything, of course he's better using his main for 20 years compared to a character he barely used.
That Heihachi with the Bryan look is got me all twisted LOL
Unblockable launching low. Great game design.
I find it funny seeing so many characters cosplay as Bryan, but Heihachi Bryan was a first. 😂
I feel like Yoshi shouldn't have a safe, normal launching DF2, on CH it's fine. In T7 he needed it, but in this game his B2,2 would be enough for long range whiff punish, and he already has a hopkick for close range. His DF2 is way too good.
Are you out of your mind?
Interesting take. Can we remove Asuka , Law, and Paul’s as well ?
@@Evilj82 For Yoshi's kit his DF2 is way too good, it's a safe, mid launcher into a billion dmg, combine it with B3/4 spin, don't even try to compore Yoshi to those characters you mentioned, you know you kinda have to put some work into those characters.
I could see a lot of unfamiliarity with Yoshi’s no sword stance here. Having to remember how his entire framework changes due to no low unblockable and two locked stances.
Was fun seeing my second main going ham on unsuspecting players.
Lot of people downplaying tmms yoshimitsu in comments. I think hes just playin him to show case his absurd power while not being optimal like he did with dragunov.
As a yoshi main I can tell swe just picked yoshi up. He's not using any of his good techs, fake outs, pressure moves like sheathe sword.
And not partying hard enough.
that beginning clip; I know bro said "That KILLED!?" Insane.
3:26 that’s all you gotta do to stop the sweep. You can also side step. Some how that works. Or be just enough out of range. If you’re on the ground and you think he’s sweep. Literally just kick😂 yoshimitsu is not hard to fight.
That Kishin Reina was good but man TMM doesn't play Yoshi too well.
Fact, he did dumb and predictable stuff, and it is not only Yoshi, but the other character tmm plays also, and then i hear "ooohhh, nice, this guy is very good"
@@streetfighter5430 okay wanna see you morons pick some random ass character you barely have played and without any practice n shit you hop into ranked against a 100 defense lee lmao lets see if you guys can hit any combo at all or do some "unpredictable stuff" u guys sound like you played 200 hours and think you are the big brains of tekken
everyone who think, that yoshi os broken, check his frame data. he literally don't have + on block moves, even high's. that character just can't play normal tekken.
but combo damage might be too high, i agree.
Flash negates ang frame problems he may have cuz it's 6f fast so to a certain degree he's almost always 4f better than his data implies
See command list of yoshimitsu 😂😂😂
Who remembers when you had to actually learn the game to get to high ranks?
Yoshimitsu is so gross
Yoshi hate can't get stronger than this, dont think any amount of nerfs deserved or not will undo that. Dont go to the comment section yoshi enjoyers
Small tip:
You can flash after reina's >>2 for all options except her p/c
... i believe...
ive actually seen more Shaheen players than Feng. I NEVER see Feng anywhere.
The reina and the stiff ass hei being the same rank 🤔
Well, one was promoting the other was demoting 😂
Well, you can rank up better if you don't rematch people who beat your ass.
Or you can get demoted a few ranks down on a bad day, just like me 😅
Ik it just shows how dumb the system is
That low unblockable teaches bad habits. Why are you punished for having good muscle memory?
It's reactable. If you react with the wrong action, that's actually "bad muscle memory". You can also, idk, KBD away and whiff punish it.
Honestly the unblockable sword sweep hate feels like a lot of people who can't KBD.
@@BuBornham You can't backdash it if Yoshi is close to you. Sure maybe it's reactable, but the way to react to it is unnatural. No other low in the game works like this, which is why even pros fall for it. You have to undo muscle memory just for this one move.
Just look at how many times it landed in this video.
But the biggest reason it gets hate is that it leads to so much damage. You can delete half the opponents health off of this sweep, it is ridiculous. A hellsweep does not do nearly that much damage despite being more risky.
@@Bakfor look at how many times he whiffed it in this video though, or how many times someone REACTED to it WHILE CLOSE TO HIM.
There is counterplay to it - people are acting like there isn't. Or that a move requiring DIFFERENT muscle memory specific to the matchup is something somehow unique to Yoshimitsu. Bryan has plenty of similarly reactable setups that lead to the same amount of damage, parroting copium from streamers doesn't change that these complaints can be levied at half the cast of the game.
Really, he's just the flavor of the month thing to bitch about and it's being inflated by one of the biggest content creators in the space talking about it on a daily basis.
@@Bakfor You can backdash it if Yoshi is close to you, with a free punish if you do. Yoshi sweep and Mishima sweeps are the exact same damage output, same combo, same pressure, only difference it has an unblockable property. Bornham is right, sweep hate is only because people don't try to dodge it/think its unavoidable when its not even a certainty to land (if the opponent reads it/is good). I bet you've been swept by a Kazuya or Heihachi on wake up 100s of times but don't complain about it, when they are far more of a 50/50 flip than Yoshi's sweep is. Jump + whiff punish, backdash + whiff punish, sidewalk right + punish, you have options and can react on a read, the same can't be said for Mishima gambling gameplay.
That move shouldnt even be in the game or shouldnt give you combo at least
I was like how can Bryan do a hell sweep 😂😅
That fightingGm guy reviewed another one of your videos. I'm pretty sure he wants to hook up with you
Yoshimitsu is just strange lol, I cant climb with any other character but him and i'm trolling most of the time XD
Partying*
16:28 that was Lee’s actual taunt
Song at 16:00?? I know I've heard it but don't remember where.
Yoshi brought Sekiro in a fighting game.
24:24 - DORYA DORYA DORYA!
wait..
Incredibly rare video drop from Mainman
oh man TMM changed the pfp
Once again asking MainMan to play the real number 1 best character in Tekken 8; Asuka
At 45mins for the sets with claudio that was painful to watch that dude play claudio
Unblockable gaming
Yo that yoshi heal is op af why does he get so much health
Mainman.. bro.. u can flash most of reina's stances... especially that blocked ff2 into stance
If yohsi players are using this video as a way to downplay then they're in desperate times
i hope they nerf Yoshi so bad that every Yoshi mains suffer.
Than there won't be any Yoshi mains anymore, except for eyemusician
@@N8Verzehr93good
Tip for Yoshi players against Reina: Her Sentai stance from ff2 (on block) is flash punishable.
Well... Okay, it not really? But it might as well be. After knowing this, I have a very high win rate against Reina.
Then again, I'm just a low rank Raijin player so take my words with a grain of salt.
It’s not, it just beats every option ( Including doing literally nothing ) besides Sentai 1, 2 ( Power crush ). It’s a mind-game thats just super disfavored on Reina’s side. Additionally, flash beats all Heavens Wrath options besides 1 and 1+2 ( One is a launchable high, the other is -14 power crush ). There is counterplay, but Reina just loses this matchup very, very badly. Most Reina’s will be essentially free points just by playing Yoshi.
well yeah lol, you're a character with broken defence vs a character whose only merit is her offence, it's not that surprising
Whats Dp? Down punch?
He didnt start the match with double or triple DF2 😱😱Only one. I can't believe this.
Edit:
> I'm 3 minutes in and finally Df2 is going brrrr c:
THAT MOMENT 1:22 😂
where are the spammers..? dude, you're in EU. european players are well-known for being a pinnacle in gaming (also in KR & JP) but for the RoW, that's not really the case
Tried to avoid watching this video unfortunately the Ranked Gameplay was unblockable and I’ve now lost an hour of my life. You’ll be hearing from my lawyers.
I want to kiss you
To me, Bryan is the bane of all Yoshi because he punishes mindless offence. The only thing you can do is use Yoshi’s punch parry launcher and other defensive options to ‘play like a Bryan’… but most Yoshi mains would rather die fighting than lose with patience.😊
whats the best way to defend yoshis unblockable if ur up close?
Hopkick or orbital
Or mash a mid straight into it when you feel like he is going to do it.
Fast mid or low crush.
I think, that the way to balance Yoshi could be to lower his combo damage or damage overall and make the unblockable low a bit slower, so it can't be that good to use on neutral. But I would keep the flash the way it is, because in the video it just doesn't seem like that much big of a problem.
This won't steal whole Yoshis identity and will allow him to use his strong Oki to back-up the lower damage. This way the damage won't be overtuned, Yoshi will keep his identity and won't be right off sent back to the bottom tier. And the unblockable low won't be that hard to counter.
All good suggestions, but perhaps wait with nerfs until yoshi actually proves himself in tournaments
@@tomkycze2620 nope his flash still recover too fast on block and whiff. Still need to make it recovery frame on block and whiff slower
And i guess they had to remove the faster version of the unblockable sweep (ws dbb1)
@@mastergaming-wd4zh I mean, yeah on whiff it is kinda fair to make it a little bit slower to recover, but wouldn't do anything that much but that. I am not sure if even something like "flash on block" exists, because if the opponent is blocking the flash just doesn't hit you at all if I remember right and just whiffs.
@@shaNk9x Yeah that's true. I just think that the problem is not actually in the tournaments. It is in ranked. But I am not a good enough player to say if it is because the character is broken or because players just don't know the match up and how to counter him. You can see in this video that some players are capable of dealing with the unblockable low and the flash.
this move 🤣 17:44
Mainman lookin mad cute here 😳😳
f**
Main man yoshi aint so difficult..just gramics get people...u when see that purple powder thingy...he is going for the low launcher..i never talked tekken 7 or 8 but i see
"Yoshi is not fun to play against"
Any character is not fun to play against when you get your ass whooped.
Like I enjoy having every Kazuya wave-dashing my ass off every matchup.
Like I enjoy ever playing against cookie cutter Jin baby fundamentals.
Like I enjoy Drag's 2 moves on repeat.
Like I enjoy King's phantom hit ranges.
I think people just KNOW the Yoshi who beats you is having more fun than you do when you yourself win a match, which deeply bothers people who obsess over the timing of electrics.
The Yoshi players have been waiting since Tekken 3 for a buff that makes him competitive (especially those of us who played Tekken 6, where Yoshi was ultra low tier). It was about time. Main Man, I don't see the justification for all the complaints. Dragunov is the real imbalance in T8, and I don't agree with that point of view. Yoshi deserves some relevance for a change.
He listens to nobody, that's alright, but he desperately wants to people agree with him, yoshi was never s tier and now when he is he is crybaby, but Kazuya and Jin, or Nina and Xiayou are invisible
Yoshi Mishima wins
Bros yoshi is so damn boring lmao
Do Nina next
Yeah but still weaker than Dragunov's b4,3.
Didn’t ask don’t care, it’s a video game adapt and overcome
Maybe you meant qcf4? Cuz no way you say that b4 3 more powerful then unblockable, unreactable low that launch lmao
@@Omur-h2v Unreactable? It is a FC i26 frame move... with a very short range
@@GelberDracheLP the new ws dbb1 version is faster
@@GelberDracheLP yeah, so its 26 frames, which means if this was blockable low, it would be easy to counter. But if you crouch block this you still be launched. The only counter play is hopkick or another type of air attack but keep in mind that hopkicks is not immediate, and usually more than 15 frames. Which means that you must react to that low much faster than 26i frames. (Even pros get launched by this lmao, so i think it's unreactable)
17:45 You laughed, that's it he's a Yoshi main now. Can't take it back now.
you discust me
lmao mans really still stuck in blues after weeks, keep saying how yoshi takes 0 skill though
you really thought he plays yoshi hardcore? LOL
He plays a million characters if he focused on yoshi it would be an easy tgs
He plays him like once a week, stop coping
@@vv4983 So yoshi isnt carried 😂
what a character
Its bullshit you cant keep rematching in rank like tekken 7, only first to 2 😑
Please put out some victor content
Yup yup balance ^^!!!
They really should nerf his unblockable, it shouldnt exist in the game even
And buff taunt plz.
It was in T7 too I think :D
Just stick to the Mishimas
Imagine getting off from your 9-5 excited to play tekken only to run into tmm playing arguably the best character in the game
bussin
That flowchart Reina is a testament to how dumb she is. Besides the clutch back dash reads for the unblockable they pretty much threw everything in the sink at their controller. Flame Ruler in Kishin clothing 😂
That was what I was gon say lmao, people saying she was good but she's playing like a ganryu just spamming ff2 and mixup option and can't even finish a wallsplat combo xD
Crazy how people will say Yoshi is "overpowered" when half of his Twitch chat didn't even know that the low unblockable is actually unblockable. Then they'll say Yoshi is "overpowered" not that they lack matchup knowledge. "can't have fun against Yoshi" No wonder, Yoshi won't let you mash AND y'all don't even know what can and can't be blocked lmfao.
Yoshi is braindead and broken stop trying to downplay it.
@@kye4216 hope you get better at the game.
50% from a low unblockable lmao this character is a joke
lol timestamp please? Where in this video there was a straight combo from unblockable sweep for 50%? Most optimized combos from it that is used by pros like eyemusician is ~55dmg max.
Also did you see how easy it is to avoid that? Even TMM spamming it get maybe a half of attempts that were connected.
This Yoshi hate from people with no clue what they're talking about is becoming annoying.
@ Here we go with the Yoshi meatrider, as always
I am gawd of destruction with dvj and usually absolutely destroy Yoshis cause the players are ASS with no fundamentals, I know what I’m talking about when I say this character is a piece of crap
@@TheSubsistance theyre garyu max
@@TheSubsistanceIf you want the timestamp my brother is right at 0:13
@@akansus7352 Man shut up I could probably 10-0 your ahh
You're saying he's OP and lost for a weak Raina you're layer and coward
RIP english. Who's Raina? Maybe learn english before mocking ppl mate
first lmao
I'm early!!
Can you do a series where you put up Reina & get her to God of Destruction so you can prove how braindead easy she is?