Psychoacoustic Secrets For Mixing Music: Learn How To Hear What's Really There!

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  • Опубликовано: 21 ноя 2024

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  • @RexLabsproduction
    @RexLabsproduction Год назад +258

    This level of knowledge for free?? Im absolutely in debt of Audio university. Nothing but gratitude

    • @AudioUniversity
      @AudioUniversity  Год назад +12

      Glad to help, Rex Labs! Thanks for watching.

    • @OjanMusic
      @OjanMusic Год назад +1

      Yeah why not he’s getting paid for the ads

    • @RexLabsproduction
      @RexLabsproduction Год назад +9

      @@OjanMusic that knowledge is expensive my friend, admoney might worth only pennies in comparison.

    • @mrNCSUman
      @mrNCSUman Год назад +4

      @@AudioUniversity literally I go to school for audio and felt like I was in a class lol

    • @gravity00x
      @gravity00x Год назад

      😂😂😂😂😂 paid actor

  • @devp3039
    @devp3039 Год назад +49

    This is not only helpful for mixing/post-production, but is also extremely helpful for songwriting/pre-production. For example, if either the melody guitar or the rhythm guitar was played one octave higher, the masking effects would likely diminish greatly. Or, if that's not an option for the song, using a different guitar/mic/mic placement to help accentuate higher frequencies on one of the tracks. Great video!

  • @I_Am_McZee
    @I_Am_McZee 2 месяца назад +2

    I read the title wrong, my silly brain thought it said ,"Psychopathic Secrets For Mixing Music." That's why I clicked immediately. I don't regret clicking though, excellent video!

  • @nzyme
    @nzyme Год назад +64

    I really appreciate the level of clarity and simplicity you use to approach these kinds of topics. I think was intuitively aware of masking effects but now I have something concrete I can use.

  • @zekebeukes7380
    @zekebeukes7380 Год назад +8

    This video needs to watch a few times. There is so many valuable information that can change your perspective of equalizing. AU never dissappoints with their content

  • @simonlinser8286
    @simonlinser8286 Год назад +2

    Dude you really remind me of a good friend, when we were younger, he's no longer around unfortunately. You look really similar to him. He got killed by some jerk trying to rob him of a small amount of cash.
    Rock on bro thanks for all you do. You do excellent work.

  • @MikeS-1969
    @MikeS-1969 Год назад +24

    Knowing something is one thing but being able to transmit that to an audience in an easy to understand way is a different skill altogether. That is what we experience here and that is why these videos are so good. Thanks!

  • @smhhms2000
    @smhhms2000 18 дней назад

    A rare video that genuinely applies psychoacoustics to music. The hidden gem in there for me is that once a signal is unmasked, it may only need to be subtly audible for the desired effect. I will use trackspacer a bit differently now, specifically making sure I duck lower frequencies out of the way where applicable.

  • @AVportau
    @AVportau 3 месяца назад

    useful info and for someone who dreams of audio it's confirmation of what we all strive for. the right amount of eq in the right places, be it additive or subtractive, to allow the most important elements to shine without losing the concept of what we are trying to achieve with the sound... it's getting crazy and awesome at the same time now because with so much digital editing power if you can think it up in your mind then it's probably achievable somehow... i come from an analogue world and the difference now in noise floor is incredible sometimes to the point where it sounds surgical and we need to add some personality to the mix.
    i like to listen to the old stereo mixes like early 70s Bowie or Floyd and pick out all the elements used, and how applied, to make things sit right... if a person doesn't have an ear to listen for the smallest of changes then the rest may be a struggle.

  • @laine1967
    @laine1967 Год назад +9

    This was very well demonstrated! Even a "fuck around and find out" type of producer like me understood and I will definitely put this info to use! Thank you

    • @AudioUniversity
      @AudioUniversity  Год назад

      Glad to hear that, Laine! Thank you for watching!

  • @nedim_guitar
    @nedim_guitar Год назад +2

    Excellent stuff! There's not as much of this information on RUclips compared to "this is how you mix".

  • @braydendukes6633
    @braydendukes6633 3 месяца назад

    Geez. If I hadn't seen this I just know the mix for my first song would've been not nearly as good and clear as it could have been. So many helpful lessons here.

  • @jobaecker9752
    @jobaecker9752 Год назад +27

    Another superbly done video, with clear, concise information. I know as a drummer that my hi-hat often competes with a strummed acoustic guitar (with a stiff pick) in studio recordings. Most of the time we've just left the hi-hat buried because the strumming carries the time quite well on its own. But perhaps this opens up some new sonic doors...

    • @AudioUniversity
      @AudioUniversity  Год назад +2

      Thanks, Jo, for this excellent example! And thanks for your kind words…

    • @Promethalus
      @Promethalus Год назад

      either dynamic eq them or, if you can record them separately with not too much bleed, you might want to pan them away from the strumming guitar

  • @JJUmusic
    @JJUmusic 11 месяцев назад +1

    Decrease lower frequencies to unmask high frequencies? It's like Lightning McQueen's turn left to go right. Counter intuitive but it works wonders in the right circumstances. Really learnt alot from this channel!

  • @tomgleason5546
    @tomgleason5546 11 месяцев назад +1

    This is amazing! I never thought i'd even begin to understand the science of this kind of thing!

  • @animeshg9
    @animeshg9 Год назад +1

    This is the best education channel for sound engineers..

  • @capohd28
    @capohd28 Год назад +1

    Great info. I've always noticed in my acoustic band that cutting low mids always made things clearer. Now I understand why better! Thanks!

  • @JSRF420
    @JSRF420 Год назад +1

    I seriously love how informative you are. Exact sciences paired with terminologies, that are overall used without subjective misinterpretation.

  • @leeuca
    @leeuca Год назад +2

    Super interesting topic. I always remembered this effect by telling myself, that there is only so much energy a signal can transfer and I as a mixer decide which balance I choose. If I decide to keep more of the low end, e.g. for a bass, that energy is not available for the higher frequency spectrum. And as I already learned that lower frequencies carry a lot more energy than higher ones (just look at that impulse a bass monitor has), that explains, why cutting out the lows makes so much more room for the highs and why its better than boosting the highs.

    • @AudioUniversity
      @AudioUniversity  Год назад

      Thanks, Andreas! In addition to the headroom problem, there is also a psychoacoustic problem. So even if the gear perfectly reproduced the audio, we would still perceive masking!

    • @loredanamassini9484
      @loredanamassini9484 Год назад

      Theres lot of way u can boost shit breaking this law its Just a perception ...the same bass can sound 200000 times different ....idk

  • @mccarthysam
    @mccarthysam Год назад +4

    Such a great video. I’d love to see/hear more examples of how masking works in a mix with multiple instruments e.g guitars/bass/drums.

  • @WesMott1994
    @WesMott1994 Год назад +1

    How come I am just now finding this channel. All of the "5 easy tips to make your mix pop" from Recording Revolution are neat and all, but Audio University explains it perfectly, gives examples and provides sources. A++ Liked, Favorited, subscribed.

  • @sasamarjanovic2242
    @sasamarjanovic2242 Год назад

    This channel is pure gold...

  • @philippgrunert8776
    @philippgrunert8776 Год назад +1

    I had no idea making is that complex. It explains my results though very likely. I will keep this in mind next time.
    Thank you so much for this content

  • @donrich3927
    @donrich3927 Год назад +6

    its crazy because you recommended the best video i could find on masking and also made one of the best ones ive seen

  • @dananskidolf
    @dananskidolf Год назад

    A demonstration with such clarity that I feel it must have gone through a demasking process itself... :)

  • @nartkelmendi6675
    @nartkelmendi6675 Год назад +1

    First time I saw a video from this channel. First time of many many more because this is quality production and information, amazing.

  • @TraxtasyMedia
    @TraxtasyMedia Год назад

    very awesome video and yes, what I do in any project I work on at first: EQ with a Lowcut at 30Hz anytime. That mostly avoids rumbling and masking in the audiospectrum.

  • @jimpemberton
    @jimpemberton Год назад +4

    I do this when I'm playing background music for banquets or other events. People like to have background music and they also like to hear each other without yelling. I've long understood that background music can mask conversations. So I carve out space in the frequencies of the background music for people to talk to each other.

    • @atk05003
      @atk05003 Год назад +1

      This is an interesting point. I'm curious, which frequencies do you most commonly reduce to avoid masking conversation?
      (Based on the information in the video my instinct is to guess lows and mids. Probably between 100 Hz - 2000 Hz. I just know that theory and practice don't always perfectly align and speech has a lot of nuance.)

    • @jimpemberton
      @jimpemberton Год назад +2

      @@atk05003 That's a good range to drop and you can even narrow it to a top end of 1000. At least that's my experience. If I'm in a new room where I'm doing this, I'll give it a go ahead of time if I can, crank the background music and try to have a conversation with someone. If I can hear them, I'm in the right area. The real test will be the kind of resonance a whole room full of people will have.
      Also, some masking of the din is good, but you want people right next to each other to hear each other. So you don't want to cut too much. So when the group gets in and I have the chance to talk to someone, I can hear how much of the din is being masked and how well I can still have a conversation. So I might make further adjustments after the event starts.

  • @waynelangat4170
    @waynelangat4170 4 месяца назад +1

    I have learnt so much from your channel, you make such amazing videos, from the bottom of my heart, thank you

  • @Noone-of-your-Business
    @Noone-of-your-Business Год назад +1

    Dang it! This is - hands down! - the _best_ video I have ever seen about masking. I wish I had known this when I produced my first album.

  • @Lasantha.
    @Lasantha. Год назад +2

    This kind of content always brings me back here. Thank you very very much for this.!!

  • @SFS440Hertz
    @SFS440Hertz Год назад +5

    Fantastic channel! I appreciate that you hype up your sources in the videos. Thanks so much organizing and presenting this information!

  • @lucascameron5230
    @lucascameron5230 Год назад

    Utterly wild that the high pass at 100ish hz just opened up all the mid and high frequencies! I've never seen this discussed anywhere else, but it's so simple, crazy that it seems overlooked in the gen pop knowledge of things.

  • @briansumanofficial
    @briansumanofficial Год назад +2

    This topic is new to me and a very important one to learn to apply it to my mixes. Super informative.

  • @edh3268
    @edh3268 Месяц назад

    This is amazing content! Thank you so much for taking the time to explain this complex subject in a very clear and concise way! You've earned a new subscriber :)

  • @ofcl.faculty
    @ofcl.faculty Год назад +1

    Trackspacer, Soothe2, Pro-Q3 or KirchhoffEQ sidechaining goes BRRRR

  • @martheunen
    @martheunen Год назад

    I often check out these videos for quick tips and tricks and for refreshing my knowledge on audio related stuff... Good stuff in a nice short quick format...
    Also, I get a huge 'poly bridge' vibe from the guitar track in this video :)

  • @SavedPulley
    @SavedPulley Год назад

    Absolutely amazing!!! God bless you my brother 🙏

  • @CrowkeeperStudios
    @CrowkeeperStudios Год назад +1

    Hopefully this gets pinned, because there is another somewhat easy solution when dealing with this problem. Whenever you're dubbing over 1 guitar over another, or one cello over another or anything similar, it benefits you greatly to use different guitar when dubbing the lead.
    The reason being is that every particular instrument has a fingerprint of resonances and dips in its frequency response. A guitar that resonates at 250hz and dips at 290 will do that no matter what pitch you're playing on it. If you choose another guitar then its fingerprint will not match the first instrument and it will automatically largely improve the masking effect.
    Using the same guitar, or amp, or cabinet, or other instrument ontop of each other is the worst thing you can do and you're going to have to resort to mixing tricks to fight a problem, and even then it won't be as big of an improvement as will changing the fundamental tone on the dubbed track.

  • @EnricoCupellini
    @EnricoCupellini Год назад

    Maybe the best video on masking I have seen on RUclips

  • @jerialice
    @jerialice Год назад

    Thanks and Merry Christmas 🎄

  • @Tantacrul
    @Tantacrul Год назад

    Nice video! Thanks :)

  • @aisharpproductions1351
    @aisharpproductions1351 Год назад

    Subscribed. This level of expertise deserves it. Thank you for sharing!

  • @zoefenton-
    @zoefenton- Год назад +1

    You just blew my mind. 🙏

  • @MsMerllin
    @MsMerllin Год назад

    High quality content! Rare to see here these times. Appreciate it!

  • @xrabbz2010
    @xrabbz2010 Год назад

    I love finding people that geek out on engineering as much as me 🎵
    My biggest tip for masking (I make electronic dance music) is get a plug-in called trackspacer. I use it mid side mode on every buss excluding my drum buss and route the vocal into, it dips out only the mid frequencies that the vocal occupies, it’s like magic. However don’t use it as a crutch, us it as an enhancement very subtlety

    • @rogcustom_2017
      @rogcustom_2017 Год назад

      Plugin called what? 😮

    • @xrabbz2010
      @xrabbz2010 Год назад +1

      @@rogcustom_2017 my bad hahahah, it’s called trackspacer

  • @zsteinkamp
    @zsteinkamp Год назад

    Fabfilter Pro-Q 3 also shows masking in a similar way. Just use sidechain to supply the "other" sound.

  • @profitnadeem
    @profitnadeem Год назад +1

    This is a great tool I use on vox recordings when I layer tracks. Nice video!!

  • @stripedelicstudios
    @stripedelicstudios Год назад +2

    Absolutely amazing video!!! Thank you so much!!!

  • @Kurasoubeats
    @Kurasoubeats Год назад +1

    Jfc this is the best explanation ever
    Man, you really went off!!

  • @Lorichs
    @Lorichs Год назад +2

    Wow. Although I knew about this topic this video is by far the best explanation.
    Thanks

  • @Wetwallz_45OT
    @Wetwallz_45OT Год назад

    I think I just listened to a video that described frequency eq’ing and pannning in longer word form

  • @omniburn
    @omniburn Год назад +1

    sheesh, what an underrated channel!!!

  • @zacharyburnham5131
    @zacharyburnham5131 Год назад +1

    Fantastic video! Please keep making content like this!

  • @faz0482
    @faz0482 Год назад

    Priceless. Congratulations for your channel! Subscribed!

  • @GloveBunniesVideos
    @GloveBunniesVideos Год назад +2

    Great lesson. Thanks so much!

  • @yogeshrajkumar490
    @yogeshrajkumar490 Год назад

    please make a video on setting levels while mixing

  • @georgechadwick8642
    @georgechadwick8642 Год назад

    youTube really needs more lecture based series with less memes etc lol. Absolutely fantastic video mate, incredibly informative yet simple

  • @emiel333
    @emiel333 Год назад +1

    Hello Kyle. Again, I’m impressed by your knowledge! Great ❤ video and keep up the good work my friend. Stay safe and healthy.

  • @viewoftheaskew
    @viewoftheaskew Год назад +1

    That's mixing gold right there, thank you! Liked & Subscribed.

  • @atomicpoorboy
    @atomicpoorboy Год назад

    Subbed for sure, thanks a lot. I've been having a bit of a hard time with the mastering process, You really made it friendly for people with a low level of music theory knowledge.

  • @zimouspero
    @zimouspero Год назад

    Thata great.. o will study and apply into my studio

  • @search.for.simplicity
    @search.for.simplicity Год назад

    Have learned so so soooo much in this channel 👍👍👍👍👍 Thanks a million

  • @RecordingStudio9
    @RecordingStudio9 Год назад +1

    Thanks. Keep up the good work.

  • @guywithacoolcivic
    @guywithacoolcivic Год назад +1

    This was amazing. Thank you for this video

  • @LeopardBull5trik3
    @LeopardBull5trik3 Год назад +3

    This was a very helpful, excellent video about masking. Thank you

  • @clicks59
    @clicks59 Год назад +1

    Excellent Kyle. Thanks for sharing.

  • @caseymcbridemusic8321
    @caseymcbridemusic8321 Год назад +1

    Excellent.

  • @loredanamassini9484
    @loredanamassini9484 Год назад

    Secret Is doubling a sound and expand the perception of some frequencyes Whit parallel resonance and boosting.

  • @318h7
    @318h7 Год назад +1

    very useful info, thank you so much! 🙏

  • @nayaleezy
    @nayaleezy Год назад

    5:45 no wonder my 80s space effects have been challenging to mix

  • @echumiliang9192
    @echumiliang9192 Год назад +1

    Do you give online masterclass of audio production?

    • @AudioUniversity
      @AudioUniversity  Год назад

      Not yet, but maybe I’ll create one in the future. What would you like to learn in a class like that? I’m interested to hear what you would find helpful.

  • @delicrux
    @delicrux Год назад +1

    I have used this trick for years, Wouldn't it make more sense to use pink noise which is supposed to be shaped to match human hearing?

  • @evicol2117
    @evicol2117 Год назад +2

    if someone were to pursue a career in audio-video engineering (namely me), what do you think it is most essential and basic need to know information?
    Also, it might be a good idea to make a video "know what you don't know" for categories like producing, PA, mixing etc..

    • @AudioUniversity
      @AudioUniversity  Год назад +1

      I think the most valuable thing you can have is an understanding of signal flow and gain structure. From there, pretty much everything else gets easier.
      That’s a great suggestion! Do you have any examples of topics you have learned that would fit into that “know what you don’t know” category?

    • @evicol2117
      @evicol2117 Год назад

      ​@@AudioUniversity I'm new in this domain, so I don't know much, but going by youtube recommendations it feels like I'm putting the cart before the horse, so something like a channel guide (maybe with some outside sources recommendations).
      For categories I would think PA systems, live concerts, live studio(radio stations and such), studio recording.

  • @molkoko8
    @molkoko8 Год назад

    THIS IS GOLD. i am so thankful for your work, Audio University. We live in the most weird and at the same time the most amazing time. Can’t believe content of such
    level is provided for free. Instant sub. Cheers from Kyiv Ukraine ❤

  • @MatDuJardin
    @MatDuJardin Год назад +1

    very interesting,
    much love

  • @vacidized5434
    @vacidized5434 Год назад

    Big thanks bro!

  • @dmitrypetrouk8924
    @dmitrypetrouk8924 Год назад

    Just like lower passions cloud higher qualities in a person.
    And cloud itself is a useful metaphor here - water from below fills the sky, makes it less bright and makes Sun less distinct.

  • @robynelarsonthesaxchick8277
    @robynelarsonthesaxchick8277 Год назад

    Awesome I am learning as I am going

  • @northwiebesick7136
    @northwiebesick7136 Год назад

    I'd love to have more information on individual instruments, such as hybrid acoustic/electric guitars and electric keyboards which is what our church uses... Technically, we use drums as well, but we don't have a big enough church to feel mic'ing up our drums is really necessary, so I don't include that in my question, although it would be cool to know that in the future I think...
    Also, while I did understand the information in the video, for the most part,(something about different EQ'd channels not having lines or frequencies, crossing, if I'm not mistaken? It can be high or low, just not both?)I wonder how one could apply this to a setup similar to the graphing software used, but mixer based. I mean, really, the x32 mixer graph looks really similar to that, except for the fact that as far as I'm aware, you can only see one instrument/voice EQ at a time, and it uses bars instead of waveforms but still the same theory applies I'll bet... I mean, would you just select each one individually, I reckon, and approximate based on that, then alternate between the EQ pages to compare? I wonder if it would be possible to have 2 EQ pages active at once to compare, to make it easier? Of course, if a PC based EQ system, like the one shown, could edit the mixer values that would be cool, but IDK enough about digital mixers, aside from "I can use one... Barely..." So yeah... More (detailed) content like this, about proper EQ of voices and instruments would be appreciated... Also, just thought of this, would voice EQ work the same as instrument EQ, for instance, lowering the EQ of a certain point for a person to separate the voice from another person or instrument???
    I'm definitely going to have to try and see if anything is "hiding" or whatever it's called, in our mixer's EQ, for the commonly used instrument and voice EQ channels

  • @richarddavis5542
    @richarddavis5542 Год назад

    Great videos, this information is invaluable. I'm assuming these tests are for a mono mix. I would be interested to see these tests repeated with the noise in one ear (channel) and the tone in the other. Is the masking effect the same or how is it different? Is the masking effect reduced when there is more separation between L & R.

  • @sheeepman
    @sheeepman Год назад

    wwwoooahhh what a great great summary, thanks for sharing!

  • @necroticpoison
    @necroticpoison Год назад +1

    Amazing vid, super helpful

  • @davidkennedy3154
    @davidkennedy3154 Год назад +1

    Great video.

  • @juanchis.investigadorsonoro
    @juanchis.investigadorsonoro Год назад

    Thx for the extra link. ❣️

  • @Quadr44t
    @Quadr44t Год назад

    Edit: Oh, forgot to mention, but thank you so much for the upload! It wasn't enough, so I am already consuming the full lectures as I write this 🤣
    4:12 So, was the reason that they didn't go lower than 100 Hz here, because they didn't wanna damage their playback devices, or...?
    (I imagine some wild interference going on, forcing the woofers to do weird abruptly changing motion instead of smooth sinusoidal ones. To explain my comment 😅)

  • @vadimmartynyuk
    @vadimmartynyuk Год назад

    I also learned how much more pleasant RE-20 sounds than SM7 or SM7B

  • @AeGeR97
    @AeGeR97 Год назад

    Thank you!

  • @dewaadrian
    @dewaadrian Год назад +1

    Thanks Kyle, very helpful for me

    • @AudioUniversity
      @AudioUniversity  Год назад +1

      Glad it’s helpful, Dewa! Thanks for watching!

  • @billpodolak7754
    @billpodolak7754 Год назад

    Great video! Have you tried the new unmasking module in Neutron 4? How effective is it?

  • @codgerfiasco
    @codgerfiasco Год назад +1

    Instead of eqing out the problem frequency could you instead pan only those specific frequencies (somehow) left and right? Or would that sound weird. Could you phase shift only one selected bit of the frequency spectrum by 70 degrees? Or is that not possible? Or if it is would that sound weird?

  • @cloud9savagehenry
    @cloud9savagehenry 6 месяцев назад +1

    Very helpful.

  • @CamariMusic
    @CamariMusic Год назад +1

    Wonderful explanation

  • @leyasep5919
    @leyasep5919 Год назад +2

    4:05
    The problem is that this video uses MPEG compression which already uses psychoacoustics to save bandwidth.

    • @AudioUniversity
      @AudioUniversity  Год назад +2

      That’s an interesting point. The audio was actually derived from another RUclips video, so it’s been compressed several times. Hopefully it is sufficient for delivering the point.

    • @leyasep5919
      @leyasep5919 Год назад +2

      @@AudioUniversity I think your point is explained by the rest and any serious practitioner will try and experiment in real life to confirm and refine their perceptions.
      But you should have also mentioned the fact that masking is also used for lossy sound compression 🙂

  • @IvanToman
    @IvanToman Месяц назад +1

    Interestingly, in that guitar example, I can clearly hear every note from the melody guitar even while the rythm guitar plays along. Am I supposed not to? :)

    • @bakou-v6q
      @bakou-v6q Месяц назад

      yea same masking is not an issue , all tracks always mask each other if you don't masking freqs just play diff sine tones then xd

  • @dongarcez
    @dongarcez Год назад +1

    Great job! 👌🏻

  • @IdovShai
    @IdovShai Год назад +1

    Great Video! Thank you

  • @EyeMusicStudio
    @EyeMusicStudio Год назад +2

    can we get the music youre using in this tutorial?

    • @AudioUniversity
      @AudioUniversity  Год назад +1

      It’s not a finished song, but here are the chords:
      A - Bm - D - A

    • @EyeMusicStudio
      @EyeMusicStudio Год назад +2

      @@AudioUniversity thankyou ❤️

  • @teashea1
    @teashea1 Год назад +1

    quite excellent and useful

  • @OLLiGoldeaux
    @OLLiGoldeaux Месяц назад

    Fascinating