Wrong - “We know that whoever is born of God does not sin; but he who has been born of God 👉keeps himself, and the wicked one does not touch him.” I John 5:18 NKJV
I recall when I first came across Calvinism. The whole thing just seemed "off" to me, but it's adherents seemed far more able to justify their belief in its truth than I was able to refute what they said. They could quote several texts that seemed to confirm their claims. My initial reaction was to seek answers from non-Calvinist teachers. However, I didn't find anyone with a convincing rebuttal. Their reaction to Calvinism seemed just as flawed as I felt Calvinism was. Eventually found the answers I wanted through my own Bible reading and study. Calvinism has strong scriptural support IF the majority of scripture is ignored. I started to see that Calvinist argument was always focused on the same handful of texts and the wider context of those favoured verses was never taken into account.
I was just like you. And I did a really deep dive in those texts the Calvinists use as proof texts. If you’d like the absolute best scriptural understanding on those same proof texts the Calvinists always use, an understanding that shows the actual meaning of texts like Rom 9, Eph 1, etc., that shows not only how the Calvinists get it wrong but also shows how their message is exactly opposite of Paul’s teaching, let me know.
@@TheRomans9Guy Thanks Bob. I think I've come to a good understanding of what the Calvinists fail to see. For example, Eph 1, being 'chosen' and 'predestined' relate to being IN HIM and are THROUGH HIM. Later in the chapter it makes it clear that we "were included IN CHRIST when [we] heard the message of truth, the gospel of [our] salvation. When [we] believed..." But any insight you can share would be appreciated. I can be contacted via the details accessible through my "channel" homepage.
@@onesimustim8424 hey buddy how are you? I miss your comments. I hope you haven’t gone to see the Lord yet, although seeing Him will be glorious. God bless you old friend.
After talking with multiple calvanists this is just so accurate to the point they were saying im works based and don't have the true gospel. And if I don't repent I'm not Saved
Yup you often hear the same unfounded claims being hurled your way instead of wanting to actually dig into the scriptures and be Bereans to search it out in scripture. I have found a small number who were willing to, but it is VERY few.
The most dangerous books commonly used by Christians are study bibles - especially if they are the bible used for everyday reading. Some may be useful for occasional reference but should not be relied upon to 'explain' scripture. One I'd advise people to avoid completely is the MacArthur Study Bible, unfortunately one of the most popular.
Onesimus Tim yes! I had to ditch my study Bible. Once I started studying the Bible in-depth for myself and God started revealing truth to me, I found the things in my study Bible either ended up being misleading, outright lies, or had nothing to do with the verses it was addressing. God told me to ditch it and just get with Him and the word and I feel I have learned more than I ever would have just reading some man’s notes in the bottom and his opinions telling me what I need to believe and how to interpret a verse. It’s all a big deception. So are devotional books. Not many devotional books are going to talk about the tough verses like cutting off your hand, forsaking everything, sin and judgement, etc.
@@abideintheWord I used to have a Dake's study bible - hard to get and quite expensive. Far more notes than actual scripture - and I spent more time reading the notes than reading the scriptural part. I had to throw that out. I now have two study bibles that I use for very rare reference, but they have notes about cultural background and historical context not interpreting the text. When I started to take the time to read scripture for myself, unaided, I found that it wasn't as hard to understand as I'd been led to think. And the more I read it the more I could understand. If I don't understand something I don't stress about it - I just read on and expect it to become clear at another time. If it's something I need to know, the Holy Spirit will open it up to me. Most of the time when something seems difficult, it just means there's probably something else I need to learn first - like needing to learn basic arithmetic before we can expect to understand more complex mathematical concepts.
Hey, good video brother. Evangelizing to Calvinists is incredibly difficult because of all the pieces you say. Straw man arguments, hero worship, all of it and more.
God bless you! Yes especially since Calvinism is so prevalent today. A tell-tale sign you are following men instead of Christ is you call yourself a “CALVINist” instead of a CHRISTian.
@@abideintheWord yes it’s concerning, one of my classmates reached out to me saying “do you believe in osas” not even are you a follower of Jesus? He also stated how “saved” Christians can commit suicide and sin as much as they want and still go to heaven. This doctrine is demonic!
@@foreverblessedministries yes straight from the father of lies himself. 1 John 3:7-10 Little children, let no one deceive you. Whoever practices righteousness is righteous, as he is righteous. Whoever makes a practice of sinning is of the devil, for the devil has been sinning from the beginning. The reason the Son of God appeared was to destroy the works of the devil. No one born of God makes a practice of sinning, for God’s seed abides in him; and he cannot keep on sinning, because he has been born of God. By this it is evident who are the children of God, and who are the children of the devil: whoever does not practice righteousness is not of God, nor is the one who does not love his brother.
Finally someone asking the question that seems so obvious but no one wants to pose. And the answer is “yes”! One of the largest Christian cults, teaching “doctrines of demons”, a false gospel, and leading many astray. Thanks for speaking up, brother!
I truly believe Calvinism is the end times deception which ushered in eternal security - the same lie of the serpent from the Garden - “Oh, that you would bear with me in a little folly-and indeed you do bear with me. For I am jealous for you with godly jealousy. For I have betrothed you to one husband, that I may present you as a chaste virgin to Christ. But I fear, lest somehow, as the serpent deceived Eve by his craftiness, so your minds may be corrupted from the simplicity that is in Christ. For if he who comes preaches another Jesus whom we have not preached, or if you receive a different spirit which you have not received, or a different gospel which you have not accepted-you may well put up with it!” II Corinthians 11:1-4 NKJV
I will say this I used to be in a school that still used Calvinism in their teachings. Now I will say this this whole school turned me atheist because their teachings didn't make any sense at all and I didn't have a connection to God then. Now there's the problem I was bullied by my classmates I tried to tell them I was being bullied but nobody believed me when I tried to stood up to them, my teachers would side with my bullies and I was a scapegoat for three years. My bullies used those teachings as a way to excuse their actions and the school didn't anything to stop it then. Anyways I already graduated that school 10 years ago, I don't plan on going to my high school reunion and never will go to future high school reunions. I'm already at a different church with the teaching made more sense, I finally accepted Jesus in my life and life is a little bit better now.
Thank you Adam. A powerful short message summing up the cult of Calvinism and other cults succinctly. Have you done any teachings on Dispensationalism?
No but the Lord has put it on me to do one. I don’t think it’s going to be a very nice one though. Dispensationalism especially hyper dispensationalism is probably one of the worst of all cults out there. I believe they are the gnostics the apostles came against. They are Satan’s children.
@@abideintheWord I believe this is confirmation then and look forward to it. Have a great weekend! ps. I sent you an e-mail, not sure if it went into your spam but look forward to hearing back. Bless you. 1 Thes 5:23
I love your video exposing Calvinism and just resigned from a reformed church. I would really appreciation it if anyone could offer me some insight on the 2 emails below that I received from one of the pastors after sending our resignation letter from a reformed church that never tells anyone that they are reformed (very secret and all the pastors are 5-point Calvinist). I did not understand what their crazy beliefs were until I started to study exactly what "Calvinism" was (or reformed). In other words, I went there for a few years and never once did they say the word "reformed" or "Calvinism" or "5-point Calvinism". It's not even on their website and find it so secretive (similar to the way cults are). Having been a strong believer for over 3 decades I absolutely had no idea what "Reformed" or "Calvinism" or "5-Point Calvinism" meant. Not in my wildest dreams would I ever think that a "church" would believe (even though they play "the word salad game" when you ask them about these strange beliefs such as: 1. Jesus does not love everyone 2. Jesus did not die for everyone 3. Jesus does not want everyone to be saved 4. Man has zero choice in making a decision to come to Christ Also, I have found out that Calvinists use the same vocabulary as true believers but use a "different dictionary." Please confirm if my feelings about this reformed church leadership is abusing their authority from the quite disturbing emails that I had received after resigning (there are 2 emails he sent below). His email back to me: Dear ---, This feels a bit out of the blue. If you are being called to serve elsewhere, you should seek guidance from your pastors about that. There was a brother who went off on his own against our counsel not too long ago, and the Lord disciplined him severely with two unrelated, yet severe health issues that arose consecutively out of nowhere. He later came and repented for it. That kind of story has happened more than once. We recognize your gifts and your place in our body. If you want to have conversations about how we see the Lord is able to use you here (or possibly elsewhere), we are happy to help. Getting an email out of the blue that announces that you are leaving without any input from us seems very strange, and it makes me want to ask what is really going on here. Where are you going to serve? Your pastors need to be part of this conversation. It is dangerous to step out from under authority, and I want to warn you against leaving without talking to us more about this. You know we love you, and you know you can trust us. We are the men who have laughed with you, prayed with you, walked with you. My sons look up to so much because you have been intentional about getting to know them. Frankly, I am disturbed to get an email like this without any context. You owe us more than that, Brother. Let's set up a time to talk about this. When can you come by the office? Blessings, ----------- His 2nd follow up email: Dear ----, I just wanted to follow up and ask again: Where have you been called to serve? Is there a particular church you are heading to with a particular ministry in mind? If so, you should be able to tell us what that is. If there is not a particular church, but a general pursuit of ministry, then I think you're going about this entirely wrong. God doesn't call us to become "free agents." I'm still confused about this situation. Please let me know what you believe the Lord has called you to. Again, I would love the opportunity to meet with you and talk about it, but at minimum, please let me know via email. Thanks, ---
Yeah that definitely sounds like some cult-like behavior - trying to scare you and intimidate you away from leaving their organization. It’s definitely scary leaving a church. But we must be led by the Spirit and not by man. If you think you are strong enough to defend true Christianity and show them what the Bible says, then by all means do. But you have to understand one thing - and I know this is going to sound very harsh but I believe it’s true. Calvinism is not Christianity. People who hold to it are to be treated the same way that anyone from any other cult is to be treated like Jehovas Witnesses, Mormons, etc. They have a false gospel just like them, even if they have a lot of other things rights. Now I will say that what he said about it being dangerous going out on your own can be right in a sense. What I mean is I have seen some people leave one cult or false teaching just to go over to another. For example, people like Doreen Virtue who came out of new age types of churches and prosperity teaching just went straight over and put themselves under Calvinist and cessationist teachers who will lead them astray. So be careful not to be just led straight into another heresy. Please keep me updated with what happens. God bless!
Hello, I know you didn't ask me this, but if I may add, I think a reply would be reasonable from your part. It doesn't have to be long, just say that you don't agree with their calvinistic teachings and that's it.
I agree with both previous replies. Your pastors are controlling. They want to control you and have not spoken of the issue of Calvinism. Ask them to refute the 5 points of Calvinism, then you will come back to talk with them.😁Won't happen.
You are so right about the Calvinist people. My friend did exactly what you said passing the knowledge to RC Sproul and John MacArthur and others. Rarely he ever gave me scriptures and totally avoided those scriptures that I sent to him.
The best description of how to explain to our children from John Calvin's teaching summed up very well like this................... Little Johnny, God has predestined the minority of people to be saved and go to heaven forever, and He has predestined the majority of people to be eternally damned and burn in the fires of hell. We have no idea, little Johnny, if God has predestined you to be forever damned or forever saved. We love you, little Johnny, but we accept the fact that God might not love you, and that He may have plans to send you to hell for your future sins. If you do find yourself one day burning in hell because He hasn’t elected to save you, just remember that we will always love you, even if God hates you. Take comfort knowing that we are not like God. We will be in heaven forever only because we were unconditionally chosen for salvation before we were born. That would be the only reason that we won’t be in hell with you if you find yourself there. It won’t be because of anything we did. So also take comfort in knowing that. It may not seem fair, but who are we to judge God? So again, if you find yourself in hell, remember that we will always love you as we forever worship the God who loved us but who hated you, the God who sent His Son to die for us but not for you. Please, we ask, don’t let it bother you-if you find yourself in hell-that we love the God who hated you and showed you no mercy. We must accept the fact that God is sovereign, and He does what He pleases. Why would you ever hide the wonderful “doctrines of grace,” the “Bible truth,” from your own children or grandchildren? Reformed 5-Point Calvinism is another gospel, it has all the ear marks of a Cult. The closest cult to Calvinism is Islam . The Calvinist God and the God of Islam must sit at the same table going through their fry or not to fry list! One of the foundational doctrines of Islam is the absolute sovereignty, to the point of determinism, of Allah. Allah knows everything, determines everything, decrees everything, and orders everything. Allah is even the cause of evil (Unveiling Islam, p. 109). It follows that Allah predestines all who will be saved and all who will be eternally damned. Of those who cannot be saved, Surah 2:6-7 states: It follows that Calvinism and Islam are both inherently fatalistic. In Calvinism, the sovereign God elects those who will be saved and rejects all others, as seen repeatedly in Calvin’s writings: …some are preordained to eternal life, others to eternal damnation; and, accordingly, as each has been created for one or other of those ends, we say that he has been predestined to life or death (Institutes, 3.21.5). John Calvin The reason they share the same Theology is that they come from the same source of inspiration! They all are writing down the Doctrine of Demons they embrace and willingly! TRUTH IN LOVE
Deception is rampant in Christianity today. The wicked one is the master of deception. Keep your eyes on Christ, walk with him on the narrow path. Seek his face with all your heart, soul, mind and strength.
Great perspective! Thank you 😊 “And the brethren immediately sent away Paul and Silas by night unto Berea: who coming thither went into the synagogue of the Jews. These were more noble than those in Thessalonica, in that they received the word with all readiness of mind, and searched the scriptures daily, whether those things were so.” Acts 17:10-11
I’m not sure how to that. But thank you for the encouragement! And check out my gospel playlist. What’s being preached today in the seeker-sensitive churches today is not the true gospel of Christ. God bless!
Awesome, thank you for sharing! There is something you mentioned that I had a different understanding of. John 14:25 - I am under the understanding that this was specifically promised to the disciples in regard to the HS, so that those who would record scripture would be reminded fully everything He wants said in the Bible. I do have a question. Can you please share you r thoughts briefly on this scripture? “The teachers of religious law and the Pharisees are the official interpreters of the law of Moses. So practice and obey whatever they tell you, but don’t follow their example. For they don’t practice what they teach.” Matthew 23:2-3 NLT How I understand what you are saying is, let the HS give us guidance and wisdom in interpreting scripture and not pastors and scholars. But these verses seem to contradict that. So can you please correct where I’m misunderstanding you? Thank you so much!
Not all people who believe in eternal security are just parroting men. In the same way all who oppose it do. Just for consideration. All of this man’s assertions could be turned against him.
Well yes they are in some way or another. You would never in a million years read the Bible with just you and the Holy Spirit and come to the serpent’s deception from the garden that you can sin and not die.
I dont believe someone can loose thier salvation but im also not a Calvinist.i agree with the idea that theses groups have men as thier leaders instead of Jesus.
Why have you let men deceive you? The Bible doesn’t teach OSAS. It is a man-made doctrine meant to lead people to hell! Please watch - Once Saved Always Saved ruclips.net/p/PLAyuX7yjc8EswKZLJjLIGAVuzjETAg6oT
@@abideintheWordIf you believe that You can lose your Salvation You aren't saved to begin with. If people could lose their Salvation NOBODY would be saved. If i gave you a gift and took it back if you did something i didn't like would it be a gift?
@@abideintheWord NKJV is a false bible. Lets look at a real Bible verse John 8:51(KJV) Verily, verily, I say unto you, If a man keep my saying, he shall never see death. And what did Jesus say? Jesus said to believe on Him. To TRUST in him for everlasting life. John 10:28-29(KJV) And I give unto them eternal life; and they shall never perish, neither shall any man pluck them out of my hand. My Father, which gave them me, is greater than all; and no man is able to pluck them out of my Father's hand. Do you think you can pluck yourself out of Gods hand once he has you? Gods not letting go no matter what. He promised. I have that assurity 100% unlike someome who trusts in themselves.
Thank you Lord for answering my prayers and guarding my mind, for not allowing me to get sucked into this accursed cultic heresy of calvinism so that I wouldn't be led astray by the wolves in sheep's clothing.
Hey brother. Good video and I can relate to much of what you are saying here. Attended a reformed church for the last 4-5 years, but something never sat right about being a member. And in order to be a member, small group leader or elder, you have to agree formally to their statement of faith, which includes statements like God chooses who He will save (individually) according to His good pleasure (unconditional election). I have reached a point where I can’t do this with a clear conscience and think it’s time to move on. However, to say it’s just a cult and no one is saved is a major stretch. There were believers in my small group no doubt. Also, Dr. Walter Martin whose book you are holding did not classify Calvinism as a cult, he disagreed with Calvinist’s view of unconditional election in predestination, however he called them brothers. What are your thoughts on that? I do think there are MAJOR issues, and consistent Calvinists (called hyper Calvinists by the more moderate Calvinists) have demonized God for a gospel of divine individualistic election and meticulous determinism, however the more moderate Calvinists that preach and act like a non-Calvinists (open call on the gospel, evangelize, etc) are brothers and sisters.
@@matts.6558 I never said none of them were saved. It goes like this. Once you present to them the truth, and they keep rejecting it, won’t hear you, and turn and attack you, then you can know you are not dealing with a sheep. Sheep don’t attack you for giving the truth. Wolves do.
@@abideintheWord Sorry, when I said "However, to say it’s just a cult and no one is saved is a major stretch" I was just speaking generally and not directly at you or accusing you. I am on your side on this issue. I just met with my pastor last week do discuss his proof texts regarding unconditional election. We walked through Eph 1, i showed him verse 13, which tells us exactly when we were included/became "in Christ". He struggled for a while, but then admitted maybe Ephesians 1 doesn't teach it exegetically. We then walked through Romans 9, I was able to walk through it verse by verse staying in the context of the focus being on Israel and judicial hardening of those who reject God (i.e. Pharoah). At the end of the discussion, we chatted about falling away and he said he doesn't understand how my system can't be a works system (like you mentioned). But he is a humble person and didn't attack me, but he was visibly frustrated. I think people can have that reaction to challenges to their existing belief systems, but the degree to which they respond can indicate if it is a wolf or not.
@@matts.6558 yeah for him if he is willing to go through the Scriptures and isn’t seeking to persecute you, then by all means stay with Him if you feel God is calling you to! Stay with a person of peace. However, if he becomes someone OTHER than a person of peace and turns to attack you then you know he isn’t a sheep. It’s ok to be frustrated. Sheep can get frustrated, but sheep do not seek to hurt other sheep.
@@abideintheWord Great points, hadn't considered that (i.e. person of peace), great way of putting it. I should mention he is not the lead pastor, the lead pastor is a very strong character and am quite curious how he would react. I do not get intimidated and fear I might react in the flesh a bit when dealing with him, but will definitely pray into it and do my best.
He pretty much hits the nail why I'm not a card carrying member of any religion, but a non-denominational Deist with much Weight as an admirer of Jesus Christ's infallible principles.
If Jesus never rose from the dead, then we as Christians are to be pitied more than any other religion. But if He did rise from the dead - then that proves that everything He said about the afterlife and heaven and hell is true and we would be foolish not to believe Him and take Him at His word. Like Jesus said, repent for the kingdom of heaven is at hand.
"Seek the LORD while He may be found, call on Him while He is near." Isaiah 55:6. "Now is the time of God's favor, now is the day of salvation." 2 Corinthians 6:2. "If you confess with your mouth, "Jesus is Lord", and believe in your heart that God raised Him from the dead, you will be saved." Romans 10:9 Call upon Jesus today, tomorrow may be too late. He is who He says He is, we all need Jesus, only He can save us.
I was in a cult for 10 years TWI……Calvinism is very sly with regards to indoctrination……plus I was in Calvinism for about 3 years and started being convicted about God is not a respecter of persons….I left and renounced everything I learned All cults are patristic in nature….parasitic (Calvinism wants to convert believers to Calvinism and they also hi Jack churches that are unaware and asleep at the wheel) The ESV interpretation is full of Calvin indoctrination….. Fear, intimidation, arrogance, pride…we have cornered the market on theology… Calvinism strains a gnat and swallows a camel….. The scriptures are simplistic in nature and read them at face value….
All these are straight up lies. I quoted Calvin himself and he says he never said it. 🤣 They just don’t LIKE it is the problem. Also the early church fathers absolutely did NOT believe we lacked free will. These are all straight up verifyiably FALSE! You wicked liar repent or perish!
@@dannymcmullan9375 well I agree that I don’t necessarily believe that Calvinists “follow” John Calvin,nor do I believe that Calvinism is a cult. However I do believe when there is a leader or leaders saying that you should believe a certain way then that’s definitely cult. I hate that it appears that John Calvin is the one to bring forth this scripture theory. I don’t know much about him so I cannot speaking intelligently on it, but why is it called Calvinism?
It is most definitely a cult. Anytime you have a belief system named after a mere man, you are not following Jesus but rather a cult. Or else it would just be called Christianity. Think about it and think about the things said in this video. You don’t have to say you are following someone or a belief system to follow it. You can follow people without even knowing it - you just believe what they say about Scripture over what the Scriptures actually say. Dig into this - it is a wicked deception leading untold masses to hell!
Cults believe in Works Salvation! Calvinism was not invented by John Calvin. People put that label on his belief system. The Bible is interpreted by the Bible. What does the Bible say? It's funny that people who don't buy into what the bible says as far as His Sovereignty listen to Calvinist preachers on the radio and love them. I am NOT a Calvinist but God has reveled His word to me like He did to John before I knew what Calvinism was. Interesting....
“Calvinism was not invented by John Calvin”. 🤣🤣🤣 now I may have heard it all. Can I use this to post on my community posts to show everyone how blind Calvinists are?
One of the Calvinist teachers at my church was recently teaching on Colossians 1:21-22. When he read on to v. 23 the 'if you continue in your faith' portion he really did some hand-waiving trick to dismiss it. He said something like 'Of course if your elect you will continue in faith.' All of these warnings in scripture about remaining in faith and in Christ are tossed aside by these folks. They don't need to teach about the meaning of the Vine and the Branches because that passage has no bearing on their systematic. I don't think you sin your way out of salvation, but I do think unbelief places you outside of Christ.
They will pretty much ignore these passages. Even though the Bible goes out of its way to warn us to ABIDE and CONTINUE, they say you naturally will continue so no need to worry Jesus has got you. What a totally different gospel message. So you don’t believe it’s sin that causes you to lose your salvation? So what about this verse? “But the cowardly, unbelieving, abominable, murderers, sexually immoral, sorcerers, idolaters, and all liars shall have their part in the lake which burns with fire and brimstone, which is the second death.”” Revelation 21:8 NKJV If you die as a liar or adulterer, will you not go to hell?
I went to a Pentecostal church today and they don’t believe in OSAS but I noticed that all the women were wearing skirts. Not sure if they have a dress code or what. I don’t want to become religious person and take away my focus from what really matters, Jesus Christ!
Maya Nezha may God bless you. I’ll keep praying for you. It sounds like your heart is being fixed on God above all else. That’s what is most important - loving Him with all our heart mind soul and strength. Keep pressing in. 😀
*any person of faith is religious. god is a religious matter, not a matter of culture or of entertainment or of science or of agriculture or of manufacturing. faith is a religious matter. spirituality is a religious matter. churches, synagogues and temples and mosques are religious buildings. they're certainly not hotels, sports arenas, prisons, etc. faith, spirit, god will always be religious things. to contrast, luciferianism, satanism and demonic are all sacrilegious things.* *how and why are all of you people so poisoned?* *christians are religious. christianity is a religion. you need to take the poison out of the word religion. jesus condemned religion and the religious on the occasion that those things had been corrupted by the people but not because they are fundamentally, inherently bad or wrong. they're not bad or wrong. they can be corrupted and THAT is the problem with religion and religious people.* *as for wearing skirts, you cannot say that god does not have STANDARDS for being and for behavior. god provides all sorts of instructions for how to be and how to live. carrying out those instructions is not bad or wrong, and it should not **_poison_** people. nor should one person's obedience be cause to condemn another person's ways. there are all sorts of scriptures about these topics.*
@@OrchestralOrg I do consider myself religious, but I don’t want to be a religious hypocrite. When I lived in Mexico, I used to go to church 7 days/ week because my mom would take me. Women didn’t wear pants, jewelry, makeup etc. Etc. But their hearts were full of evil. There was lots of gossiping and everyone’s attention was on criticizing others, my own mother was that way as well and she continues to be. When I came to the US without my mother at the age of 15, I left the church completely because I didn’t want to be part of hypocrites- I thought all the churches were like the one I grew up in. I didn’t know anything different. It was not until earlier this year that God found me and showed me what true Christianity is. When I visited this new Pentecostal church this weekend, my mind went back to Mexico.Dressing modest is a good thing but when you start telling people how long to wear skirts, or how short you can cut your hair, you start getting into man-made rules and you are not leaving room for the Holy Spirit to convict you. In Mexico you are either Catholic or Christian. About 83% of the population are Catholics. There is also nothing wrong with a church having a dress code but some churches are somewhat extreme and their focus becomes people’s appearance instead of Jesus Christ.
@@mayanezha1269 *very well explained, and understood. you had adverse experience which is both sad but valuable. you have discernment and can weed out one kind of people and church from another. what's the opposite of a hypocrite?*
The Holy Spirit will not guide you into calvinism. Nor will God's Word. They don't line up. I would say keep praying and avoid the esv translation. The esv is a calvinistic leaning translation.
Yup! Or they say you’re being divisive. They are the divisive ones - “These are sensual persons, who cause divisions, not having the Spirit.” Jude 1:19 NKJV
Yes I’m familiar with Leighton Flowers and provisionism. Look out for him though. He is teaching a very soft message and leading people to hell with his views on things like eternal security and faith alone.
Watch these - Leighton Flowers - Are Calvinists False Teachers? ruclips.net/video/gGiLMlV0oXk/видео.html Leighton Flowers of Soteriology101 EXPOSED as a Partial Calvinist!!! ruclips.net/video/bQ-ZZ0vfG3M/видео.html
@@abideintheWord gues I thought you were Arminian as you hold to losing your salvation. You and I agree on Calvinism. But I guess I hold to saved and kept rather than you can. More than happy to agree to disagree on that point. Yes me pointing you to Dr Flower's is basically what you were calling out on the video. That being said I worked through all of that stuff on my own before. Provisionism is probably the closest thing I can agree with as I still believe in Particular Sovereignty as I believe God is still working through prophecy with the Nation of Israel and I hold to a Pre-trib Premllennial position.
Church history says the opposite, it was Arminus that came along and said to the orthodoxy church that his Arminian 5 points were correct, which were： 1. Free Will or Human Ability 2. Conditional Election 3. Universal Redemption or General Atonement 4. The Holy Spirit Can be Effectually Resisted 5. Falling from Grace Then the orthodoxy church rejected and answered Arminus' wrong ideas and the answers are: 1. Total Inability or Total Depravity 2. Unconditional Election 3. Limited Atonement or Particular Redemption 4. Irresistible Grace or The Efficacious Call of the Spirit 5. Perseverance of the Saints This system of theology was reaffirmed by the Synod of Dort in 1619 as the doctrine of salvation contained in the Holy Scriptures. The system was at that time formulated into "five points" (in answer to the five points submitted by the Arminians) and has ever since been known as the "five points of Calvinism." This was the system of thought contained in the "Remonstrance" (though the "five points" were not originally arranged in this order). It was submitted by the Arminians to the Church of Holland in 1610 for adoption but was rejected by the Synod of Dort in 1619 on the ground that it was unscriptural. By the way the Arminianism was announced as heresy. Now we can safely say Calvinism is not a heresy and definitely not a cult, but Arminiasn is a heresy that popularized the numeral theological errors and seimi-plaginianism.
No, you don’t know your history. Even some of the most prominent Calvinists out there such as James White agree Calvinism was not taught in the church until Augustine.
@@kanglinyao I mean for the first several hundred years, the denial of free wasn’t held by any Christian’s whatsoever. It is NOT the faith handed down by the saints talked about in Jude. Actually, the gnostics held to a denial of free will. It’s essentially Gnosticism.
Arinete G I don’t subscribe to any denomination because Jesus never told any of his followers to be Baptist, Catholic, Lutheran, etc. I am just a follower of Christ is all. 😀 I have been in Evangelical free churches, Southern Baptist, non-denom, Catholic, and Pentecostal. Some denominations have their strengths, but they all hold to I believe some sort of unbiblical teaching in one way or another. That’s why Jesus said to follow Him and be guided by the Holy Spirit who will guide us into all truth. Be blessed.
Lone ranger Christianity is so dangerous because it often leads to an entirely different kind of customized, personalized, and ultimately self-idolizing religion. Make no mistake-it’s the lone ranger who is most likely to become the lone wolf (Acts 20:29-30; 2 Peter 2:1-3; 1 John 2:18-19; 3 John 9-11).
@@abideintheWord Lone ranger Christianity is so dangerous because it often leads to an entirely different kind of customized, personalized, and ultimately self-idolizing religion. Make no mistake-it’s the lone ranger who is most likely to become the lone wolf (Acts 20:29-30; 2 Peter 2:1-3; 1 John 2:18-19; 3 John 9-11).
The answer is yes, but it depends on your definition. On the old usage all religions are cults. However if by cult you mean that: Does Calvinism represent a significant change from what Christians believed since the beginning of Christianity? Then the answer would be YES.
When I first saw your comment I was about the send you my video on this then I realized this comment is on the video I did about that. Did you watch the video?
I watched the video. Is Calvinism a cult or not? I wish you had addressed the issue of predestination of some being predestined for heaven and some being predestined for hell. Do you have another video that addresses the TULIP theology? Also OSAS. That's what I'm looking for. Not trying to be argumentative, just trying to get a better understanding.
@@dimensionx9770 go check out the channel called “Refuting Calvinism” by Kerrigan Skelly. I have him featured on my featured channels section. He covers is pretty in depth. God bless.
I am not a Calvinist so do what you want. Did you read somewhere that John labeled what God revealed to him as Calvinism? From what I have read, it seems he believed he was a Christian. John Calvin was a French theologian who developed his Calvinism philosophy through his published work called Institutes of the Christian Religion. This work inspired the Reformation movement and deeply influenced the spread of Protestantism across Europe, the Netherlands, Scotland, and the Americas.
A Christian?!? 🤣🤣🤣 No Calvin was not Christian. He was a savage murderer who had Servetus burned alive with green wood while he screamed for mercy. You’re killing me here.
To your point, if you read scripture contextually and exegetically, you will clearly see that salvation is free and can't be earned. It's un merited which makes it eternal, otherwise, it's not free. John Calvin has nothing to do with thar. That's scripture
@@try_himsee3335 ok, if you mean what you say then maybe you can help me with these Scriptures I found then. Thanks! - We Don't Earn Our Salvation... We KEEP IT!!! ruclips.net/video/iE_EH6hslko/видео.html I’d be really interested to hear your thoughts on these. Please don’t jump around though to other Scriptures please.
I don't think it's a cult. But cultish. I benefited with being involved with several different denominations growing up. Baptist, Disciples of Chriat, Charismatic, and Presbyterian. So, when I was in my 20s, I listened to all the arguments, but would seek out scripture myself in prayer. Therefore, I am very nondenominational. I refuse to lock myself in a systematic theology. Even if I fit within one of them. I want to have thw freedom to change as I study scripture and discover issues with where I am currently. So denominations are 'cultish', but not a cult. They are mostly loving and not controlling. Although, there are Christian cults for sure! The ones that threaten, control and manipulate to follow the leader without question and abuse their authority!
Except Calvinism is not a denomination. You have several denominations which hold to Calvinism to varying degrees (accepting anywhere from 1 to all 5 points of TULIP), which I would say are not necessarily defined as a cult. But the system of Calvinism - or the sect or religion of Calvinism - most certainly is.
@@abideintheWord I was using denominations as an example. But any systematic theology, including TULIP, is what I mean by cultish. The main thing fundamentals should agree on is that the bible is God's true word.
@@truthtransistorradio6716 Jehovas Witnesses believe the Bible is the word of God. So do Catholics and most cults. I think it comes down to making sure you are following Jesus and keeping your eyes on Him and not any man such as Calvin or any organization. God bless.
@@abideintheWord Jehovah's Witnesses don't have the same bible. Catholics don't encourage people to read the bible, and the pope's word is considered inspired.
No, JW’s read the KJV in addition to the NWO translation. They still believe the KJV Zia the word of God, they just believe their translation is even better. Free gracers (another heretical group) also says they believe their Bible. It means absolutely NOTHING! The devil knows and uses the Bible probably more then you. He quoted the Scripture to Jesus to try to get Him to sin. So what?
Yes the most prominent Calvinist out there John Piper turns my stomach with this quote from his website. "God . . . brings about all things in accordance with his will. In other words, it isn’t just that God manages to turn the evil aspects of our world to good for those who love him; it is rather that he himself brings about these evil aspects for his glory (see Ex. 9:13-16; John 9:3) and his people’s good (see Heb. 12:3-11; James 1:2-4). This includes-as incredible and as unacceptable as it may currently seem-God’s having even brought about the Nazis’ brutality at Birkenau and Auschwitz as well as the terrible killings of Dennis Rader and even the sexual abuse of a young child . . . What a sick twisted mind John Piper has, yet millions follow his every word! Truth in Love
😮 How does that not make thier god the author of evil? Usually they try to avoid talking about that but Piper readily states it! Where is this taken from?
Thanks for pointing out that Calvinism is cult like. I do agree with once saved always saved because of scripture there are several passages that have to be looked at to have this position. Here are just two verse that can be used to support once saved always saved: John 14:16-17 "16 And I will pray the Father, and he shall give you another Comforter, that he may abide with you for ever; 17 Even the Spirit of truth; whom the world cannot receive, because it seeth him not, neither knoweth him: but ye know him; for he dwelleth with you, and shall be in you." out of the KJV. For comparison here is both verses out of the ESV John 14:16-17 "16 And I will ask the Father, and he will give you another Helper, to be with you forever, 17 even the Spirit of truth, whom the world cannot receive, because it neither sees him nor knows him. You know him, for he dwells with you and will be in you."
No I’m sorry you have been duped by the same lie of the serpent in the garden when he told Eve she could sin and not die. How many warnings in the Bible do there need to be saying not to be deceived on this? Please watch - Once Saved Always Saved ruclips.net/p/PLAyuX7yjc8EswKZLJjLIGAVuzjETAg6oT
@abideintheWord at 8:08 I'd like to point out Jesus said he will spit the lukewarm out of his mouth. I'd really like to know more on how a calvanist would understand that verse,? I'm not really sure i understand their doctrine
Exactly, the Bible says that when we believe we are placed IN CHRIST!!! What better picture of losing salvation then being IN CHRIST but then being spit OUT of Christ?
It is very debatable when Catholicism started. Catholics will of course say it started with Peter, while others will say it started way after. As for Islam, most scholars agree that it started in the 7th century. You maybe could find some roots of it sooner then that, but most agree with me so not sure why that would be any kind of major point anyways. Are you a Catholic friend?
@@andrewtaylor1737 debatable? Which part is debatable friend? You can search for all of this on your own and look it up for yourself. Calvin had people put to death and yet you call yourself after his name. Acts 20:30 and from among your own selves will arise men speaking twisted things, to draw away the disciples after them. You must come out of Calvinism. It will lead you to hell! It’s a dangerous and wicked doctrine! Please search this out.
For some there seems to be an unhealthy obsession with Calvinism. Church growth and evangelism are both down. There has been an almost overwhelming obsession with Calvinism for the past few years. Whatever happened to soul winning and evangelism?
Well, it’s the same lie of the serpent since the beginning when the serpent told Eve she can sin and not die. I am not sure if there can be enough hatred for this wicked doctrine. Do you hate the things God hates?
@@abideintheWordGod offers eternal life to those who trust that Jesus Christ alone is the way to salvation. Adding anything else to this truth results in a false gospel. Eternal life is eternal. Saying that eternal life can somehow become not eternal is a false gospel. Check out Andrew Farley. He has a radio show that is also streamed on youtube where people call in and ask questions. You can also look up videos from is weekly church services. Also, check out the Grace Evangelical Society.
All people who believe in Calvinism, since John Calvin‘s day, have been the deepest thinkers, and are not led or fooled by anybody. Since the reformation, Calvinism has dominated the Christian landscape by far. Because it is the proper understanding of the Bible. Armenians have been just been annoying heel nippers, trying to get some glory for themselves.
No, it’s a different Jesus, different spirit and a different gospel! “Oh, that you would bear with me in a little folly-and indeed you do bear with me. For I am jealous for you with godly jealousy. For I have betrothed you to one husband, that I may present you as a chaste virgin to Christ. But I fear, lest somehow, as the serpent deceived Eve by his craftiness, so your minds may be corrupted from the simplicity that is in Christ. For if he who comes preaches another Jesus whom we have not preached, or if you receive a different spirit which you have not received, or a different gospel which you have not accepted-you may well put up with it!” II Corinthians 11:1-4 NKJV
October31st1517 they preach a false gospel for one. They preach the same lie of the serpent in the garden - that a “true” believer can sin and not die. According to Paul in 2 Corinthians 11:3-4 he calls this a different gospel and a different Jesus.
@@abideintheWord you still have not answered the question. What essential of the Christian faith, like the Trinity, the Virgin birth, the deity of Christ, Etc. What essential do they deny? It looks like you didn't I eternal security, which I believe is a false position but not enough to consider your group a cult. Again, what essential oils do Calvinists deny where they can be considered a cult?
You are making a false proposition that one has deny the trinity or the virgin birth in order to be considered a cult. You are defining cult based on the framework that theologians have constructed. If you would have listened carefully to my video, I said that many define cults in difference ways and there largely isn’t even agreement among theologians of what exactly makes a cult and what doesn’t as it can be very nebulous and tricky to define. What I stated in my video was that in my experience with members of various known cults such as jehovas witnesses, and false man made religions like Catholicism was a common them that they ALL have. And that is that they all have a man or a group of men who tells them how they need to interpret scripture because only they have the “correct” interpretation of what scripture really means. Calvinist have John Calvin who tells them the supposed “true” way scripture is to be interpreted. Every cult has this in common along with the fear tactics they use to keep people in. Calvinist use the fear of telling people things like they don’t believe in God’s sovereignty or they are trying to save themselves, or label you with the title palagian, etc.
@@October31st1517 Calvinism denies the essential fact that Christ died for all. By saying Christ died for a limited number of people puts a value on Christ's blood. As if any number of people could possibly be equivalent to Christ's shed blood. In short, calvinism (ironically) reduces God's sovereignty and power. But satan loves to rub our faces in our own blind spots.
It is possible to fall from grace which equals losing your salvation. Being justified by the law of Moses aka the old covenant. Galatians 5:4 King James Version 4 Christ is become of no effect unto you, whosoever of you are justified by the law; ye are fallen from grace.
No I don't have full truth Only the Holy Spirit Qualifies for all truth We are fallible even the best Of teachers can err As I said before different Interpretation of scriptures Cause dissent! As Paul said there will be Divisions amongst you!
@@angloaust1575 wait, no you don’t have the Spirit because the He is called the Spirit of truth. You can’t have the Spirit and not have the truth. You are deceived! WHY did Paul say there must be divisions? That THOSE WHO ARE TRUE may be manifested. You aren’t of God.
Catholic church is an organization not a cult. The Bible interpretation is from the Church Fathers who knew the apostles and taken from their teaching. The book of Acts has a Magesterium. Why woukd I not listen to people who knew the Apostles taught ny Jesus?
“He who rejects Me, and does not receive My words, has that which judges him-the word that I have spoken will judge him in the last day. For I have not spoken on My own authority; but the Father who sent Me gave Me a command, what I should say and what I should speak. And I know that His command is everlasting life. Therefore, whatever I speak, just as the Father has told Me, so I speak.”” John 12:48-50 NKJV “However, when He, the Spirit of truth, has come, He will guide you into all truth; for He will not speak on His own authority, but whatever He hears He will speak; and He will tell you things to come.” John 16:13 NKJV
@@abideintheWord *i said pope mistakenly. peter is the "first bishop" and the church goes all the way back to his very life. read Patriarch of Antioch wiki page for a general idea.*
wrath of the lamb many believe there is not any evidence that Peter was even in Rome. You look at the verse about Peter being the rock on which Jesus will build His church and it’s two different words in the greek - Petra and petros meaning small stone and boulder. Jesus is the boulder on which the church will be built on - not Peter.
@@abideintheWord *how could you possibly deny peter's life? that's ironic. this isn't about a name meaning. jesus and peter are both directly responsible for the establishment of the church (the catholic church). to deny this is some sort of willful. but, like i said in other comments - people are poisoned against the church. so, there you have it.*
10:49 Jean Cauvin demanded the Geneva Council to declare him The One & Only Voice of God on Earth AND declare that his writings/words be treated as Holy Writ the same as the biblical writers. THAT should've been a forest of red flags but the Geneva Council approved the declaration as law and enthusiastically enforced it with banishment (loss of property), torture and the chopping block for your head. The burning stake got plenty of use also. Still looking for the commandment or anything in Scripture where you're supposed to have your own personal torturer. Can't find one either for setting up a confidential informant network to catch people saying unflattering comments or voicing doubts on Cauvin's twisting of Scripture.
I’m sorry I don’t know what you’re talking about. Did I mention Mary in this video? Maybe I did but it’s been so long I don’t remember you’re going to have to help me.
Stick with the KJV. Interesting that the words "sovereign" and "sovereignty" are not in the KJV at all! Do a word search, that Calvinistic idea is not Biblical! All other versions use those words hundreds of times. And no, you cannot lose your salvation. " These things have I written unto you that believe on the name of the Son of God; that ye may know that ye have eternal life, and that ye may believe on the name of the Son of God." 1 John 5:13 "Eternal Life" - eternal security not conditional security
Lone ranger Christianity is so dangerous because it often leads to an entirely different kind of customized, personalized, and ultimately self-idolizing religion. Make no mistake-it’s the lone ranger who is most likely to become the lone wolf (Acts 20:29-30; 2 Peter 2:1-3; 1 John 2:18-19; 3 John 9-11).
I have no idea what you are talking about. I agree you should chose your teachers wisely, I don’t believe in the church of “me”, and I would never tell someone not to have any teachers. I very much believe in them - just not of the heretical type such as the Gnostic Calvinist ones.
@@timothykeith1367 no, the early gnostics taught against free will and believed in eternal security. Does that sound like any major belief system you know of today?
Calvinism is wrong! So how does the presenter determine how to interpret the Bible and why does he disagree with so many other individual Protestants? Jesus said his Church would never fall away! Matthew 16:18 So what church is the only church that has existed since 33ad? Not this person's church or interpretations! Othodox Church only continuous church since 33 ad! How does this person know what books of the Bible belong in the Bible since there was no cannon of the BiBle the first 500 years! Orthodox church determined the books belonging to the Bible under Holy Spirit. Catholics broke off Orthodox Church. Orthodox believe you can lose salvation and is anti-Calvinist!
Ha, no. The Catholics would make the same claim as you. And BOTH are wrong. Jesus’ church is not a physical one, it’s a spiritual one! “Our fathers worshiped on this mountain, and you Jews say that in Jerusalem is the place where one ought to worship.” Jesus said to her, “Woman, believe Me, the hour is coming when you will neither on this mountain, nor in Jerusalem, worship the Father. You worship what you do not know; we know what we worship, for salvation is of the Jews. But the hour is coming, and now is, when the true worshipers will worship the Father in spirit and truth; for the Father is seeking such to worship Him. God is Spirit, and those who worship Him must worship in spirit and truth.”” John 4:20-24 NKJV
Sir, this video is entirely based off misinformation and a straw man. If you do research into church history and read luther (who was before calvin) that he wrote about predestination. Then augistine who was way before them both writing about predestination. So making a claim that calvin is the mediator for calvinist is just a silly claim. If you actually look into what these men wrote about its more like this. That we are saved by grace alone through faith alone in Christ alone for the glory of God alone according to scripture alone.
And no, Augustine preached the Gnostic heresy first, which Martin Luther and Calvin took over and made it widespread, but none of the early Christians believed this garbage doctrine of demons faith alone. Sorry that is straight up false.
@abideintheWord ephesians 2:8 We are saved through grace by our faith, but also a balance of good works that demonstrate our good fruits because faith without works is dead. Come to Christ as you are with faith that will soften and guide you into good and righteous works. However, works can't give you salvation, only the grace of God. Hopefully I explained that well brother. I also would love to converse more about the video you made about calvanism if you can give me an email ?
Free from Calvinism after 17 years and EVERYTHING you said I’ve come to same conclusion about. Right on brother:)
Praise God!!!
By the way, my wife watches your content. She is currently homeschooling and you have been a big encouragement to her. So thank you.
@@abideintheWord oh!! That’s wonderful! I happened upon you channel searching if Calvinism was a cult.
There she is again!
Wrong -
“We know that whoever is born of God does not sin; but he who has been born of God 👉keeps himself, and the wicked one does not touch him.”
I John 5:18 NKJV
Limited atonement is a brutal wicked doctrine that denies Christ.
Amen!!!!!
Amen!!!!
John17v9 kjv
I recall when I first came across Calvinism. The whole thing just seemed "off" to me, but it's adherents seemed far more able to justify their belief in its truth than I was able to refute what they said. They could quote several texts that seemed to confirm their claims.
My initial reaction was to seek answers from non-Calvinist teachers. However, I didn't find anyone with a convincing rebuttal. Their reaction to Calvinism seemed just as flawed as I felt Calvinism was.
Eventually found the answers I wanted through my own Bible reading and study.
Calvinism has strong scriptural support IF the majority of scripture is ignored. I started to see that Calvinist argument was always focused on the same handful of texts and the wider context of those favoured verses was never taken into account.
I was just like you. And I did a really deep dive in those texts the Calvinists use as proof texts. If you’d like the absolute best scriptural understanding on those same proof texts the Calvinists always use, an understanding that shows the actual meaning of texts like Rom 9, Eph 1, etc., that shows not only how the Calvinists get it wrong but also shows how their message is exactly opposite of Paul’s teaching, let me know.
@@TheRomans9Guy Thanks Bob. I think I've come to a good understanding of what the Calvinists fail to see.
For example, Eph 1, being 'chosen' and 'predestined' relate to being IN HIM and are THROUGH HIM.
Later in the chapter it makes it clear that we "were included IN CHRIST when [we] heard the message of truth, the gospel of [our] salvation. When [we] believed..."
But any insight you can share would be appreciated. I can be contacted via the details accessible through my "channel" homepage.
Cults are good at that.
@@onesimustim8424 hey buddy how are you? I miss your comments. I hope you haven’t gone to see the Lord yet, although seeing Him will be glorious. God bless you old friend.
I would like to have that understanding
I think Calvinism uses the word sovereign in an unbiblical fashion
Absolutely right
No doubt!!!
Exactly, God in His sovereignty gives mankind a free-will.
We believe in the sovereignty of God as the word is defined. Calvinists have a different definition.
After talking with multiple calvanists this is just so accurate to the point they were saying im works based and don't have the true gospel. And if I don't repent I'm not Saved
Yup you often hear the same unfounded claims being hurled your way instead of wanting to actually dig into the scriptures and be Bereans to search it out in scripture. I have found a small number who were willing to, but it is VERY few.
Christian's don't watch Rick and Morty
The most dangerous books commonly used by Christians are study bibles - especially if they are the bible used for everyday reading. Some may be useful for occasional reference but should not be relied upon to 'explain' scripture.
One I'd advise people to avoid completely is the MacArthur Study Bible, unfortunately one of the most popular.
Onesimus Tim yes! I had to ditch my study Bible. Once I started studying the Bible in-depth for myself and God started revealing truth to me, I found the things in my study Bible either ended up being misleading, outright lies, or had nothing to do with the verses it was addressing. God told me to ditch it and just get with Him and the word and I feel I have learned more than I ever would have just reading some man’s notes in the bottom and his opinions telling me what I need to believe and how to interpret a verse. It’s all a big deception. So are devotional books. Not many devotional books are going to talk about the tough verses like cutting off your hand, forsaking everything, sin and judgement, etc.
@@abideintheWord I used to have a Dake's study bible - hard to get and quite expensive. Far more notes than actual scripture - and I spent more time reading the notes than reading the scriptural part. I had to throw that out.
I now have two study bibles that I use for very rare reference, but they have notes about cultural background and historical context not interpreting the text.
When I started to take the time to read scripture for myself, unaided, I found that it wasn't as hard to understand as I'd been led to think. And the more I read it the more I could understand.
If I don't understand something I don't stress about it - I just read on and expect it to become clear at another time. If it's something I need to know, the Holy Spirit will open it up to me.
Most of the time when something seems difficult, it just means there's probably something else I need to learn first - like needing to learn basic arithmetic before we can expect to understand more complex mathematical concepts.
Exactly!! The Holy Spirit is our teacher. Not man
what would you say christians should use to study the bible?
@@andrewtaylor1737 I like, The New Strong's Expanded Dictionary of Bible Words. It includes the best of Vine's.
Hey, good video brother. Evangelizing to Calvinists is incredibly difficult because of all the pieces you say. Straw man arguments, hero worship, all of it and more.
Bob Leitzel thanks brother. Yes it can be very complex and disheartening for sure. I’ve got more coming on the topic so stay tuned. God bless.
Really good video bro I could tell God is moving through you. It’s discouraging seeing this false doctrine
God bless you! Yes especially since Calvinism is so prevalent today. A tell-tale sign you are following men instead of Christ is you call yourself a “CALVINist” instead of a CHRISTian.
@@abideintheWord yes it’s concerning, one of my classmates reached out to me saying “do you believe in osas” not even are you a follower of Jesus? He also stated how “saved” Christians can commit suicide and sin as much as they want and still go to heaven. This doctrine is demonic!
@@foreverblessedministries yes straight from the father of lies himself.
1 John 3:7-10
Little children, let no one deceive you. Whoever practices righteousness is righteous, as he is righteous. Whoever makes a practice of sinning is of the devil, for the devil has been sinning from the beginning. The reason the Son of God appeared was to destroy the works of the devil. No one born of God makes a practice of sinning, for God’s seed abides in him; and he cannot keep on sinning, because he has been born of God. By this it is evident who are the children of God, and who are the children of the devil: whoever does not practice righteousness is not of God, nor is the one who does not love his brother.
Finally someone asking the question that seems so obvious but no one wants to pose. And the answer is “yes”! One of the largest Christian cults, teaching “doctrines of demons”, a false gospel, and leading many astray. Thanks for speaking up, brother!
Praise God!!!
I truly believe Calvinism is the end times deception which ushered in eternal security - the same lie of the serpent from the Garden -
“Oh, that you would bear with me in a little folly-and indeed you do bear with me. For I am jealous for you with godly jealousy. For I have betrothed you to one husband, that I may present you as a chaste virgin to Christ. But I fear, lest somehow, as the serpent deceived Eve by his craftiness, so your minds may be corrupted from the simplicity that is in Christ. For if he who comes preaches another Jesus whom we have not preached, or if you receive a different spirit which you have not received, or a different gospel which you have not accepted-you may well put up with it!”
II Corinthians 11:1-4 NKJV
Check this out -
The End Times Delusion…
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I will say this I used to be in a school that still used Calvinism in their teachings. Now I will say this this whole school turned me atheist because their teachings didn't make any sense at all and I didn't have a connection to God then. Now there's the problem I was bullied by my classmates I tried to tell them I was being bullied but nobody believed me when I tried to stood up to them, my teachers would side with my bullies and I was a scapegoat for three years. My bullies used those teachings as a way to excuse their actions and the school didn't anything to stop it then. Anyways I already graduated that school 10 years ago, I don't plan on going to my high school reunion and never will go to future high school reunions. I'm already at a different church with the teaching made more sense, I finally accepted Jesus in my life and life is a little bit better now.
That’s terrible. Did they just say God predestined you to be bullied or something?!?
Thank you Adam. A powerful short message summing up the cult of Calvinism and other cults succinctly. Have you done any teachings on Dispensationalism?
No but the Lord has put it on me to do one. I don’t think it’s going to be a very nice one though. Dispensationalism especially hyper dispensationalism is probably one of the worst of all cults out there. I believe they are the gnostics the apostles came against. They are Satan’s children.
@@abideintheWord I believe this is confirmation then and look forward to it. Have a great weekend! ps. I sent you an e-mail, not sure if it went into your spam but look forward to hearing back. Bless you. 1 Thes 5:23
@@williamgreen6561 I haven’t gone through all my emails yet but I plan to hopefully this weekend God-willing. God bless!
What is Dispensationalism?
You did a great job with this video man
Praise God!
I love your video exposing Calvinism and just resigned from a reformed church.
I would really appreciation it if anyone could offer me some insight on the 2 emails below that I received from one of the pastors after sending our resignation letter from a reformed church that never tells anyone that they are reformed (very secret and all the pastors are 5-point Calvinist). I did not understand what their crazy beliefs were until I started to study exactly what "Calvinism" was (or reformed). In other words, I went there for a few years and never once did they say the word "reformed" or "Calvinism" or "5-point Calvinism". It's not even on their website and find it so secretive (similar to the way cults are).
Having been a strong believer for over 3 decades I absolutely had no idea what "Reformed" or "Calvinism" or "5-Point Calvinism" meant. Not in my wildest dreams would I ever think that a "church" would believe (even though they play "the word salad game" when you ask them about these strange beliefs such as:
1. Jesus does not love everyone
2. Jesus did not die for everyone
3. Jesus does not want everyone to be saved
4. Man has zero choice in making a decision to come to Christ
Also, I have found out that Calvinists use the same vocabulary as true believers but use a "different dictionary."
Please confirm if my feelings about this reformed church leadership is abusing their authority from the quite disturbing emails that I had received after resigning (there are 2 emails he sent below).
His email back to me:
Dear ---,
This feels a bit out of the blue. If you are being called to serve elsewhere, you should seek guidance from your pastors about that. There was a brother who went off on his own against our counsel not too long ago, and the Lord disciplined him severely with two unrelated, yet severe health issues that arose consecutively out of nowhere. He later came and repented for it. That kind of story has happened more than once.
We recognize your gifts and your place in our body. If you want to have conversations about how we see the Lord is able to use you here (or possibly elsewhere), we are happy to help. Getting an email out of the blue that announces that you are leaving without any input from us seems very strange, and it makes me want to ask what is really going on here.
Where are you going to serve? Your pastors need to be part of this conversation. It is dangerous to step out from under authority, and I want to warn you against leaving without talking to us more about this. You know we love you, and you know you can trust us. We are the men who have laughed with you, prayed with you, walked with you. My sons look up to so much because you have been intentional about getting to know them. Frankly, I am disturbed to get an email like this without any context. You owe us more than that, Brother.
Let's set up a time to talk about this. When can you come by the office?
Blessings,
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His 2nd follow up email:
Dear ----,
I just wanted to follow up and ask again: Where have you been called to serve? Is there a particular church you are heading to with a particular ministry in mind? If so, you should be able to tell us what that is.
If there is not a particular church, but a general pursuit of ministry, then I think you're going about this entirely wrong. God doesn't call us to become "free agents."
I'm still confused about this situation. Please let me know what you believe the Lord has called you to. Again, I would love the opportunity to meet with you and talk about it, but at minimum, please let me know via email.
Thanks,
---
Yeah that definitely sounds like some cult-like behavior - trying to scare you and intimidate you away from leaving their organization. It’s definitely scary leaving a church. But we must be led by the Spirit and not by man.
If you think you are strong enough to defend true Christianity and show them what the Bible says, then by all means do.
But you have to understand one thing - and I know this is going to sound very harsh but I believe it’s true. Calvinism is not Christianity. People who hold to it are to be treated the same way that anyone from any other cult is to be treated like Jehovas Witnesses, Mormons, etc. They have a false gospel just like them, even if they have a lot of other things rights.
Now I will say that what he said about it being dangerous going out on your own can be right in a sense. What I mean is I have seen some people leave one cult or false teaching just to go over to another. For example, people like Doreen Virtue who came out of new age types of churches and prosperity teaching just went straight over and put themselves under Calvinist and cessationist teachers who will lead them astray. So be careful not to be just led straight into another heresy.
Please keep me updated with what happens. God bless!
Hello, I know you didn't ask me this, but if I may add, I think a reply would be reasonable from your part. It doesn't have to be long, just say that you don't agree with their calvinistic teachings and that's it.
I agree with both previous replies. Your pastors are controlling. They want to control you and have not spoken of the issue of Calvinism. Ask them to refute the 5 points of Calvinism, then you will come back to talk with them.😁Won't happen.
You are so right about the Calvinist people. My friend did exactly what you said passing the knowledge to RC Sproul and John MacArthur and others. Rarely he ever gave me scriptures and totally avoided those scriptures that I sent to him.
But of course, Calvinist would not see it that way, it’s clear in the Bible with their presupposition, and they are simply rightly dividing
The best description of how to explain to our children from John Calvin's teaching summed up very well like this...................
Little Johnny, God has predestined the minority of people to be saved and go to heaven forever, and He has predestined the majority of people to be eternally damned and burn in the fires of hell. We have no idea, little Johnny, if God has predestined you to be forever damned or forever saved.
We love you, little Johnny, but we accept the fact that God might not love you, and that He may have plans to send you to hell for your future sins. If you do find yourself one day burning in hell because He hasn’t elected to save you, just remember that we will always love you, even if God hates you.
Take comfort knowing that we are not like God.
We will be in heaven forever only because we were unconditionally chosen for salvation before we were born. That would be the only reason that we won’t be in hell with you if you find yourself there. It won’t be because of anything we did.
So also take comfort in knowing that. It may not seem fair, but who are we to judge God?
So again, if you find yourself in hell, remember that we will always love you as we forever worship the God who loved us but who hated you, the God who sent His Son to die for us but not for you.
Please, we ask, don’t let it bother you-if you find yourself in hell-that we love the God who hated you and showed you no mercy. We must accept the fact that God is sovereign, and He does what He pleases.
Why would you ever hide the wonderful “doctrines of grace,” the “Bible truth,” from your own children or grandchildren?
Reformed 5-Point Calvinism is another gospel, it has all the ear marks of a Cult. The closest cult to Calvinism is Islam .
The Calvinist God and the God of Islam must sit at the same table going through their fry or not to fry list!
One of the foundational doctrines of Islam is the absolute sovereignty, to the point of determinism, of Allah. Allah knows everything, determines everything, decrees everything, and orders everything. Allah is even the cause of evil (Unveiling Islam, p. 109).
It follows that Allah predestines all who will be saved and all who will be eternally damned. Of those who cannot be saved, Surah 2:6-7 states:
It follows that Calvinism and Islam are both inherently fatalistic. In Calvinism, the sovereign God elects those who will be saved and rejects all others, as seen repeatedly in Calvin’s writings:
…some are preordained to eternal life, others to eternal damnation; and, accordingly, as each has been created for one or other of those ends, we say that he has been predestined to life or death (Institutes, 3.21.5). John Calvin
The reason they share the same Theology is that they come from the same source of inspiration!
They all are writing down the Doctrine of Demons they embrace and willingly!
TRUTH IN LOVE
Deception is rampant in Christianity today. The wicked one is the master of deception. Keep your eyes on Christ, walk with him on the narrow path. Seek his face with all your heart, soul, mind and strength.
Great perspective! Thank you 😊
“And the brethren immediately sent away Paul and Silas by night unto Berea: who coming thither went into the synagogue of the Jews. These were more noble than those in Thessalonica, in that they received the word with all readiness of mind, and searched the scriptures daily, whether those things were so.”
Acts 17:10-11
Thank you for putting this video together. Can you please add the scripture references to the caption on this if it isn’t too much to ask? Thank you
I’m not sure how to that. But thank you for the encouragement! And check out my gospel playlist. What’s being preached today in the seeker-sensitive churches today is not the true gospel of Christ. God bless!
Here it is -
The Gospel
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Awesome, thank you for sharing! There is something you mentioned that I had a different understanding of. John 14:25 - I am under the understanding that this was specifically promised to the disciples in regard to the HS, so that those who would record scripture would be reminded fully everything He wants said in the Bible.
I do have a question. Can you please share you
r thoughts briefly on this scripture? “The teachers of religious law and the Pharisees are the official interpreters of the law of Moses. So practice and obey whatever they tell you, but don’t follow their example. For they don’t practice what they teach.”
Matthew 23:2-3 NLT
How I understand what you are saying is, let the HS give us guidance and wisdom in interpreting scripture and not pastors and scholars. But these verses seem to contradict that. So can you please correct where I’m misunderstanding you?
Thank you so much!
Not all people who believe in eternal security are just parroting men. In the same way all who oppose it do.
Just for consideration.
All of this man’s assertions could be turned against him.
Well yes they are in some way or another. You would never in a million years read the Bible with just you and the Holy Spirit and come to the serpent’s deception from the garden that you can sin and not die.
Most Arminians always go to philosophy to try to bolster their arguments… They rarely go to chapter and verse.
You do realize that’s the tactics of Calvinists, right? Lol
Arminians are a subset of Calvinism. They're also wrong.
I dont believe someone can loose thier salvation but im also not a Calvinist.i agree with the idea that theses groups have men as thier leaders instead of Jesus.
Why have you let men deceive you? The Bible doesn’t teach OSAS. It is a man-made doctrine meant to lead people to hell! Please watch -
Once Saved Always Saved
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@@abideintheWordIf you believe that You can lose your Salvation You aren't saved to begin with.
If people could lose their Salvation NOBODY would be saved. If i gave you a gift and took it back if you did something i didn't like would it be a gift?
@@Cynidecia “Most assuredly, I say to you, if anyone keeps My word he shall never see death.””
John 8:51 NKJV
@@abideintheWord NKJV is a false bible. Lets look at a real Bible verse
John 8:51(KJV) Verily, verily, I say unto you, If a man keep my saying, he shall never see death.
And what did Jesus say? Jesus said to believe on Him. To TRUST in him for everlasting life.
John 10:28-29(KJV) And I give unto them eternal life; and they shall never perish, neither shall any man pluck them out of my hand.
My Father, which gave them me, is greater than all; and no man is able to pluck them out of my Father's hand.
Do you think you can pluck yourself out of Gods hand once he has you? Gods not letting go no matter what. He promised.
I have that assurity 100% unlike someome who trusts in themselves.
So He didn’t say anything else? Was that it?
Thank you Lord for answering my prayers and guarding my mind, for not allowing me to get sucked into this accursed cultic heresy of calvinism so that I wouldn't be led astray by the wolves in sheep's clothing.
Amen. I believe that all denominations have doctrines of men in them and to me that makes them all cults.
Thanks Brother. Keep it up!
Hey brother. Good video and I can relate to much of what you are saying here. Attended a reformed church for the last 4-5 years, but something never sat right about being a member. And in order to be a member, small group leader or elder, you have to agree formally to their statement of faith, which includes statements like God chooses who He will save (individually) according to His good pleasure (unconditional election). I have reached a point where I can’t do this with a clear conscience and think it’s time to move on. However, to say it’s just a cult and no one is saved is a major stretch. There were believers in my small group no doubt. Also, Dr. Walter Martin whose book you are holding did not classify Calvinism as a cult, he disagreed with Calvinist’s view of unconditional election in predestination, however he called them brothers. What are your thoughts on that?
I do think there are MAJOR issues, and consistent Calvinists (called hyper Calvinists by the more moderate Calvinists) have demonized God for a gospel of divine individualistic election and meticulous determinism, however the more moderate Calvinists that preach and act like a non-Calvinists (open call on the gospel, evangelize, etc) are brothers and sisters.
@@matts.6558 I never said none of them were saved. It goes like this. Once you present to them the truth, and they keep rejecting it, won’t hear you, and turn and attack you, then you can know you are not dealing with a sheep. Sheep don’t attack you for giving the truth. Wolves do.
@@abideintheWord Sorry, when I said "However, to say it’s just a cult and no one is saved is a major stretch" I was just speaking generally and not directly at you or accusing you. I am on your side on this issue.
I just met with my pastor last week do discuss his proof texts regarding unconditional election. We walked through Eph 1, i showed him verse 13, which tells us exactly when we were included/became "in Christ". He struggled for a while, but then admitted maybe Ephesians 1 doesn't teach it exegetically.
We then walked through Romans 9, I was able to walk through it verse by verse staying in the context of the focus being on Israel and judicial hardening of those who reject God (i.e. Pharoah).
At the end of the discussion, we chatted about falling away and he said he doesn't understand how my system can't be a works system (like you mentioned).
But he is a humble person and didn't attack me, but he was visibly frustrated. I think people can have that reaction to challenges to their existing belief systems, but the degree to which they respond can indicate if it is a wolf or not.
@@matts.6558 yeah for him if he is willing to go through the Scriptures and isn’t seeking to persecute you, then by all means stay with Him if you feel God is calling you to! Stay with a person of peace. However, if he becomes someone OTHER than a person of peace and turns to attack you then you know he isn’t a sheep. It’s ok to be frustrated. Sheep can get frustrated, but sheep do not seek to hurt other sheep.
@@matts.6558 I’m VERY shocked he is actually hearing you out! Praise God! Pray into it.
@@abideintheWord Great points, hadn't considered that (i.e. person of peace), great way of putting it. I should mention he is not the lead pastor, the lead pastor is a very strong character and am quite curious how he would react. I do not get intimidated and fear I might react in the flesh a bit when dealing with him, but will definitely pray into it and do my best.
No doubt they are.
He pretty much hits the nail why I'm not a card carrying member of any religion, but a non-denominational Deist with much Weight as an admirer of Jesus Christ's infallible principles.
If Jesus never rose from the dead, then we as Christians are to be pitied more than any other religion. But if He did rise from the dead - then that proves that everything He said about the afterlife and heaven and hell is true and we would be foolish not to believe Him and take Him at His word. Like Jesus said, repent for the kingdom of heaven is at hand.
"Seek the LORD while He may be found, call on Him while He is near." Isaiah 55:6. "Now is the time of God's favor, now is the day of salvation." 2 Corinthians 6:2. "If you confess with your mouth, "Jesus is Lord", and believe in your heart that God raised Him from the dead, you will be saved." Romans 10:9 Call upon Jesus today, tomorrow may be too late. He is who He says He is, we all need Jesus, only He can save us.
I was in a cult for 10 years TWI……Calvinism is very sly with regards to indoctrination……plus I was in Calvinism for about 3 years and started being convicted about God is not a respecter of persons….I left and renounced everything I learned
All cults are patristic in nature….parasitic (Calvinism wants to convert believers to Calvinism and they also hi Jack churches that are unaware and asleep at the wheel)
The ESV interpretation is full of Calvin indoctrination…..
Fear, intimidation, arrogance, pride…we have cornered the market on theology…
Calvinism strains a gnat and swallows a camel…..
The scriptures are simplistic in nature and read them at face value….
You said it! May God help us to expose and warn the brethren about this wicked doctrine. Press in!
This is 💯 % facts
@@dannymcmullan9375 please explain
All these are straight up lies. I quoted Calvin himself and he says he never said it. 🤣
They just don’t LIKE it is the problem. Also the early church fathers absolutely did NOT believe we lacked free will. These are all straight up verifyiably FALSE! You wicked liar repent or perish!
@@dannymcmullan9375 well I agree that I don’t necessarily believe that Calvinists “follow” John Calvin,nor do I believe that Calvinism is a cult.
However I do believe when there is a leader or leaders saying that you should believe a certain way then that’s definitely cult. I hate that it appears that John Calvin is the one to bring forth this scripture theory. I don’t know much about him so I cannot speaking intelligently on it, but why is it called Calvinism?
It is most definitely a cult. Anytime you have a belief system named after a mere man, you are not following Jesus but rather a cult. Or else it would just be called Christianity. Think about it and think about the things said in this video. You don’t have to say you are following someone or a belief system to follow it. You can follow people without even knowing it - you just believe what they say about Scripture over what the Scriptures actually say. Dig into this - it is a wicked deception leading untold masses to hell!
Cults believe in Works Salvation! Calvinism was not invented by John Calvin. People put that label on his belief system. The Bible is interpreted by the Bible. What does the Bible say? It's funny that people who don't buy into what the bible says as far as His Sovereignty listen to Calvinist preachers on the radio and love them. I am NOT a Calvinist but God has reveled His word to me like He did to John before I knew what Calvinism was. Interesting....
“Calvinism was not invented by John Calvin”. 🤣🤣🤣 now I may have heard it all. Can I use this to post on my community posts to show everyone how blind Calvinists are?
One of the Calvinist teachers at my church was recently teaching on Colossians 1:21-22. When he read on to v. 23 the 'if you continue in your faith' portion he really did some hand-waiving trick to dismiss it. He said something like 'Of course if your elect you will continue in faith.' All of these warnings in scripture about remaining in faith and in Christ are tossed aside by these folks. They don't need to teach about the meaning of the Vine and the Branches because that passage has no bearing on their systematic. I don't think you sin your way out of salvation, but I do think unbelief places you outside of Christ.
They will pretty much ignore these passages. Even though the Bible goes out of its way to warn us to ABIDE and CONTINUE, they say you naturally will continue so no need to worry Jesus has got you. What a totally different gospel message.
So you don’t believe it’s sin that causes you to lose your salvation? So what about this verse?
“But the cowardly, unbelieving, abominable, murderers, sexually immoral, sorcerers, idolaters, and all liars shall have their part in the lake which burns with fire and brimstone, which is the second death.””
Revelation 21:8 NKJV
If you die as a liar or adulterer, will you not go to hell?
I went to a Pentecostal church today and they don’t believe in OSAS but I noticed that all the women were wearing skirts. Not sure if they have a dress code or what. I don’t want to become religious person and take away my focus from what really matters, Jesus Christ!
Maya Nezha may God bless you. I’ll keep praying for you. It sounds like your heart is being fixed on God above all else. That’s what is most important - loving Him with all our heart mind soul and strength. Keep pressing in. 😀
*any person of faith is religious. god is a religious matter, not a matter of culture or of entertainment or of science or of agriculture or of manufacturing. faith is a religious matter. spirituality is a religious matter. churches, synagogues and temples and mosques are religious buildings. they're certainly not hotels, sports arenas, prisons, etc. faith, spirit, god will always be religious things. to contrast, luciferianism, satanism and demonic are all sacrilegious things.*
*how and why are all of you people so poisoned?*
*christians are religious. christianity is a religion. you need to take the poison out of the word religion. jesus condemned religion and the religious on the occasion that those things had been corrupted by the people but not because they are fundamentally, inherently bad or wrong. they're not bad or wrong. they can be corrupted and THAT is the problem with religion and religious people.*
*as for wearing skirts, you cannot say that god does not have STANDARDS for being and for behavior. god provides all sorts of instructions for how to be and how to live. carrying out those instructions is not bad or wrong, and it should not **_poison_** people. nor should one person's obedience be cause to condemn another person's ways. there are all sorts of scriptures about these topics.*
@@OrchestralOrg I do consider myself religious, but I don’t want to be a religious hypocrite. When I lived in Mexico, I used to go to church 7 days/ week because my mom would take me. Women didn’t wear pants, jewelry, makeup etc. Etc. But their hearts were full of evil. There was lots of gossiping and everyone’s attention was on criticizing others, my own mother was that way as well and she continues to be. When I came to the US without my mother at the age of 15, I left the church completely because I didn’t want to be part of hypocrites- I thought all the churches were like the one I grew up in. I didn’t know anything different. It was not until earlier this year that God found me and showed me what true Christianity is. When I visited this new Pentecostal church this weekend, my mind went back to Mexico.Dressing modest is a good thing but when you start telling people how long to wear skirts, or how short you can cut your hair, you start getting into man-made rules and you are not leaving room for the Holy Spirit to convict you.
In Mexico you are either Catholic or Christian. About 83% of the population are Catholics.
There is also nothing wrong with a church having a dress code but some churches are somewhat extreme and their focus becomes people’s appearance instead of Jesus Christ.
@@mayanezha1269 *very well explained, and understood. you had adverse experience which is both sad but valuable. you have discernment and can weed out one kind of people and church from another. what's the opposite of a hypocrite?*
@@OrchestralOrg The opposite of hypocrite is a follower of Christ.
What if I've read Scripture with the Spirit guiding me into truth, yet it led me to believe a lot of the same things that Calvinists believe?
I actually did a video on just that. Please watch it and let me know what you think -
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The Holy Spirit will not guide you into calvinism. Nor will God's Word. They don't line up. I would say keep praying and avoid the esv translation. The esv is a calvinistic leaning translation.
Oh there is shunning, if you disagree you are kicked out of the church
Yup! Or they say you’re being divisive. They are the divisive ones -
“These are sensual persons, who cause divisions, not having the Spirit.”
Jude 1:19 NKJV
Interesting thoughts. I'm not a big person for an Arminian view...have you heard of Provisionism? I think you would actually appreciate it.
Who said I’m Arminian?
Yes I’m familiar with Leighton Flowers and provisionism. Look out for him though. He is teaching a very soft message and leading people to hell with his views on things like eternal security and faith alone.
Watch these -
Leighton Flowers - Are Calvinists False Teachers?
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Leighton Flowers of Soteriology101 EXPOSED as a Partial Calvinist!!!
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@@abideintheWord gues I thought you were Arminian as you hold to losing your salvation. You and I agree on Calvinism. But I guess I hold to saved and kept rather than you can. More than happy to agree to disagree on that point. Yes me pointing you to Dr Flower's is basically what you were calling out on the video. That being said I worked through all of that stuff on my own before. Provisionism is probably the closest thing I can agree with as I still believe in Particular Sovereignty as I believe God is still working through prophecy with the Nation of Israel and I hold to a Pre-trib Premllennial position.
@@KandonKuuson did you watch the video on Leighton I sent you?
Church history says the opposite, it was Arminus that came along and said to the orthodoxy church that his Arminian 5 points were correct, which were：
1. Free Will or Human Ability
2. Conditional Election
3. Universal Redemption or General Atonement
4. The Holy Spirit Can be Effectually Resisted
5. Falling from Grace
Then the orthodoxy church rejected and answered Arminus' wrong ideas and the answers are:
1. Total Inability or Total Depravity
2. Unconditional Election
3. Limited Atonement or Particular Redemption
4. Irresistible Grace or The Efficacious Call of the Spirit
5. Perseverance of the Saints
This system of theology was reaffirmed by the Synod of Dort in 1619 as the doctrine of salvation contained in the Holy Scriptures. The system was at that time formulated into "five points" (in answer to the five points submitted by the Arminians) and has ever since been known as the "five points of Calvinism."
This was the system of thought contained in the "Remonstrance" (though the "five points" were not originally arranged in this order). It was submitted by the Arminians to the Church of Holland in 1610 for adoption but was rejected by the Synod of Dort in 1619 on the ground that it was unscriptural. By the way the Arminianism was announced as heresy.
Now we can safely say Calvinism is not a heresy and definitely not a cult, but Arminiasn is a heresy that popularized the numeral theological errors and seimi-plaginianism.
No, you don’t know your history. Even some of the most prominent Calvinists out there such as James White agree Calvinism was not taught in the church until Augustine.
@@abideintheWord What do you mean? Agustine died in 430, he is way early than Synod of Dort.
@@kanglinyao I mean for the first several hundred years, the denial of free wasn’t held by any Christian’s whatsoever. It is NOT the faith handed down by the saints talked about in Jude. Actually, the gnostics held to a denial of free will. It’s essentially Gnosticism.
@@kanglinyao ⬆️ facts.
Kind of ironic to ask on this video but what denomination if any are you in?
Arinete G I don’t subscribe to any denomination because Jesus never told any of his followers to be Baptist, Catholic, Lutheran, etc. I am just a follower of Christ is all. 😀
I have been in Evangelical free churches, Southern Baptist, non-denom, Catholic, and Pentecostal. Some denominations have their strengths, but they all hold to I believe some sort of unbiblical teaching in one way or another. That’s why Jesus said to follow Him and be guided by the Holy Spirit who will guide us into all truth. Be blessed.
Lone ranger Christianity is so dangerous because it often leads to an entirely different kind of customized, personalized, and ultimately self-idolizing religion. Make no mistake-it’s the lone ranger who is most likely to become the lone wolf (Acts 20:29-30; 2 Peter 2:1-3; 1 John 2:18-19; 3 John 9-11).
@@abideintheWord
Lone ranger Christianity is so dangerous because it often leads to an entirely different kind of customized, personalized, and ultimately self-idolizing religion. Make no mistake-it’s the lone ranger who is most likely to become the lone wolf (Acts 20:29-30; 2 Peter 2:1-3; 1 John 2:18-19; 3 John 9-11).
@Redeemed Thanks for the reply! ❤️
How do you handle Hebrews 10:25?
None, we hope.
In-group/out-group normativity
The answer is yes, but it depends on your definition. On the old usage all religions are cults. However if by cult you mean that: Does Calvinism represent a significant change from what Christians believed since the beginning of Christianity? Then the answer would be
YES.
Good video but I would add one thing. Calvin gets most of his theology from Augustine. Check out Dave Hunt’s book “What Love Is This?” It’s a shocker!
Yes so true. Thanks friend!
So is Calvinism a cult?
When I first saw your comment I was about the send you my video on this then I realized this comment is on the video I did about that. Did you watch the video?
I watched the video. Is Calvinism a cult or not? I wish you had addressed the issue of predestination of some being predestined for heaven and some being predestined for hell. Do you have another video that addresses the TULIP theology? Also OSAS. That's what I'm looking for. Not trying to be argumentative, just trying to get a better understanding.
@@dimensionx9770 go check out the channel called “Refuting Calvinism” by Kerrigan Skelly. I have him featured on my featured channels section. He covers is pretty in depth. God bless.
Thank you for your timely response. I am going to go check it out!
I am not a Calvinist so do what you want. Did you read somewhere that John labeled what God revealed to him as Calvinism? From what I have read, it seems he believed he was a Christian. John Calvin was a French theologian who developed his Calvinism philosophy through his published work called Institutes of the Christian Religion. This work inspired the Reformation movement and deeply influenced the spread of Protestantism across Europe, the Netherlands, Scotland, and the Americas.
A Christian?!? 🤣🤣🤣
No Calvin was not Christian. He was a savage murderer who had Servetus burned alive with green wood while he screamed for mercy. You’re killing me here.
To your point, if you read scripture contextually and exegetically, you will clearly see that salvation is free and can't be earned. It's un merited which makes it eternal, otherwise, it's not free. John Calvin has nothing to do with thar. That's scripture
@@try_himsee3335 ok, if you mean what you say then maybe you can help me with these Scriptures I found then. Thanks! -
We Don't Earn Our Salvation... We KEEP IT!!!
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I’d be really interested to hear your thoughts on these. Please don’t jump around though to other Scriptures please.
I don't think it's a cult. But cultish. I benefited with being involved with several different denominations growing up. Baptist, Disciples of Chriat, Charismatic, and Presbyterian. So, when I was in my 20s, I listened to all the arguments, but would seek out scripture myself in prayer. Therefore, I am very nondenominational. I refuse to lock myself in a systematic theology. Even if I fit within one of them. I want to have thw freedom to change as I study scripture and discover issues with where I am currently. So denominations are 'cultish', but not a cult. They are mostly loving and not controlling. Although, there are Christian cults for sure! The ones that threaten, control and manipulate to follow the leader without question and abuse their authority!
Except Calvinism is not a denomination. You have several denominations which hold to Calvinism to varying degrees (accepting anywhere from 1 to all 5 points of TULIP), which I would say are not necessarily defined as a cult. But the system of Calvinism - or the sect or religion of Calvinism - most certainly is.
@@abideintheWord I was using denominations as an example. But any systematic theology, including TULIP, is what I mean by cultish. The main thing fundamentals should agree on is that the bible is God's true word.
@@truthtransistorradio6716 Jehovas Witnesses believe the Bible is the word of God. So do Catholics and most cults. I think it comes down to making sure you are following Jesus and keeping your eyes on Him and not any man such as Calvin or any organization. God bless.
@@abideintheWord Jehovah's Witnesses don't have the same bible. Catholics don't encourage people to read the bible, and the pope's word is considered inspired.
No, JW’s read the KJV in addition to the NWO translation. They still believe the KJV Zia the word of God, they just believe their translation is even better. Free gracers (another heretical group) also says they believe their Bible. It means absolutely NOTHING! The devil knows and uses the Bible probably more then you. He quoted the Scripture to Jesus to try to get Him to sin. So what?
I'm thankful for the MAN teaching me this
Yes the most prominent Calvinist out there John Piper turns my stomach with this quote from his website.
"God . . . brings about all things in accordance with his will. In other words, it isn’t just that God manages to turn the evil aspects of our world to good for those who love him; it is rather that he himself brings about these evil aspects for his glory (see Ex. 9:13-16; John 9:3) and his people’s good (see Heb. 12:3-11; James 1:2-4). This includes-as incredible and as unacceptable as it may currently seem-God’s having even brought about the Nazis’ brutality at Birkenau and Auschwitz as well as the terrible killings of Dennis Rader and even the sexual abuse of a young child . . .
What a sick twisted mind John Piper has, yet millions follow his every word!
Truth in Love
😮 How does that not make thier god the author of evil? Usually they try to avoid talking about that but Piper readily states it! Where is this taken from?
They most certainly have another Jesus according to Galatians 1. Let them be accursed
To quote Luke Skywalker: "everything you just said was wrong."
Hey thanks that was really helpful. Especially the Star Wars quote.
Thanks for pointing out that Calvinism is cult like. I do agree with once saved always saved because of scripture there are several passages that have to be looked at to have this position. Here are just two verse that can be used to support once saved always saved: John 14:16-17 "16 And I will pray the Father, and he shall give you another Comforter, that he may abide with you for ever;
17 Even the Spirit of truth; whom the world cannot receive, because it seeth him not, neither knoweth him: but ye know him; for he dwelleth with you, and shall be in you." out of the KJV. For comparison here is both verses out of the ESV John 14:16-17 "16 And I will ask the Father, and he will give you another Helper, to be with you forever,
17 even the Spirit of truth, whom the world cannot receive, because it neither sees him nor knows him. You know him, for he dwells with you and will be in you."
No I’m sorry you have been duped by the same lie of the serpent in the garden when he told Eve she could sin and not die. How many warnings in the Bible do there need to be saying not to be deceived on this? Please watch -
Once Saved Always Saved
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I find rhis fascinating Have you heard of cultish??? They are calvanist
Yes, how ironic!
@abideintheWord at 8:08 I'd like to point out Jesus said he will spit the lukewarm out of his mouth. I'd really like to know more on how a calvanist would understand that verse,? I'm not really sure i understand their doctrine
Exactly, the Bible says that when we believe we are placed IN CHRIST!!! What better picture of losing salvation then being IN CHRIST but then being spit OUT of Christ?
@@MicaelaContreras they would call them fake Christians
The Elect cannot lose their salvation. Doctrines of grace are rooted in scripture.
@@TheFinalJigsaw nope, not at all
The Bible is clear -
Once Saved Always Saved
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praying for you friend.
It is very debatable when Catholicism started. Catholics will of course say it started with Peter, while others will say it started way after.
As for Islam, most scholars agree that it started in the 7th century. You maybe could find some roots of it sooner then that, but most agree with me so not sure why that would be any kind of major point anyways.
Are you a Catholic friend?
@@abideintheWord so why say a few hundred years? seemed kind of.... wrong , no?
@@abideintheWord no I'm Calvinist. big ol man follower. lol
@@abideintheWord I agree though. this entire video is extremely debatable. keep searching brother.
@@andrewtaylor1737 debatable? Which part is debatable friend? You can search for all of this on your own and look it up for yourself. Calvin had people put to death and yet you call yourself after his name.
Acts 20:30
and from among your own selves will arise men speaking twisted things, to draw away the disciples after them.
You must come out of Calvinism. It will lead you to hell! It’s a dangerous and wicked doctrine! Please search this out.
For some there seems to be an unhealthy obsession with Calvinism. Church growth and evangelism are both down. There has been an almost overwhelming obsession with Calvinism for the past few years. Whatever happened to soul winning and evangelism?
Well, it’s the same lie of the serpent since the beginning when the serpent told Eve she can sin and not die. I am not sure if there can be enough hatred for this wicked doctrine. Do you hate the things God hates?
You dont need to be Calvinist to believe that you can't lose salvation.
@@LightBright708 I never said that.
However, it came from Calvinism. Or really it came from the serpent in the garden when he told Eve “you surely shall not die”.
@@abideintheWordI wasn't implying that you said that. I'm simply sharing my thoughts because I believe it's important for people to be aware.
@@abideintheWordGod offers eternal life to those who trust that Jesus Christ alone is the way to salvation. Adding anything else to this truth results in a false gospel. Eternal life is eternal. Saying that eternal life can somehow become not eternal is a false gospel. Check out Andrew Farley. He has a radio show that is also streamed on youtube where people call in and ask questions. You can also look up videos from is weekly church services. Also, check out the Grace Evangelical Society.
@@LightBright708 Andrew Farley is a raging heretic. Free grace is damnable heresy.
All people who believe in Calvinism, since John Calvin‘s day, have been the deepest thinkers, and are not led or fooled by anybody. Since the reformation, Calvinism has dominated the Christian landscape by far. Because it is the proper understanding of the Bible. Armenians have been just been annoying heel nippers, trying to get some glory for themselves.
No, it’s a different Jesus, different spirit and a different gospel!
“Oh, that you would bear with me in a little folly-and indeed you do bear with me. For I am jealous for you with godly jealousy. For I have betrothed you to one husband, that I may present you as a chaste virgin to Christ. But I fear, lest somehow, as the serpent deceived Eve by his craftiness, so your minds may be corrupted from the simplicity that is in Christ. For if he who comes preaches another Jesus whom we have not preached, or if you receive a different spirit which you have not received, or a different gospel which you have not accepted-you may well put up with it!”
II Corinthians 11:1-4 NKJV
What essential of the Christian faith do Calvinists deny where they can be categorized as a cult?
October31st1517 they preach a false gospel for one. They preach the same lie of the serpent in the garden - that a “true” believer can sin and not die. According to Paul in 2 Corinthians 11:3-4 he calls this a different gospel and a different Jesus.
@@abideintheWord you still have not answered the question. What essential of the Christian faith, like the Trinity, the Virgin birth, the deity of Christ, Etc. What essential do they deny? It looks like you didn't I eternal security, which I believe is a false position but not enough to consider your group a cult. Again, what essential oils do Calvinists deny where they can be considered a cult?
You are making a false proposition that one has deny the trinity or the virgin birth in order to be considered a cult. You are defining cult based on the framework that theologians have constructed. If you would have listened carefully to my video, I said that many define cults in difference ways and there largely isn’t even agreement among theologians of what exactly makes a cult and what doesn’t as it can be very nebulous and tricky to define. What I stated in my video was that in my experience with members of various known cults such as jehovas witnesses, and false man made religions like Catholicism was a common them that they ALL have. And that is that they all have a man or a group of men who tells them how they need to interpret scripture because only they have the “correct” interpretation of what scripture really means. Calvinist have John Calvin who tells them the supposed “true” way scripture is to be interpreted. Every cult has this in common along with the fear tactics they use to keep people in. Calvinist use the fear of telling people things like they don’t believe in God’s sovereignty or they are trying to save themselves, or label you with the title palagian, etc.
@@October31st1517 Calvinism denies the essential fact that Christ died for all. By saying Christ died for a limited number of people puts a value on Christ's blood. As if any number of people could possibly be equivalent to Christ's shed blood. In short, calvinism (ironically) reduces God's sovereignty and power. But satan loves to rub our faces in our own blind spots.
I’m not a Calvinist. But guess what? You can’t lose your salvation. Roman’s 11:6
Did you keep reading down to verse 22 friend?
It is possible to fall from grace which equals losing your salvation.
Being justified by the law of Moses aka the old covenant.
Galatians 5:4
King James Version
4 Christ is become of no effect unto you, whosoever of you are justified by the law; ye are fallen from grace.
What isn't these days
Different interpretations
Of scripture
No-one has full truth!
No-one?! Are you sure about that? Are you sure YOU have the truth that says NOONE has the truth? That would mean that YOU then have the truth!
Test me and see if I preach anything against the Scriptures.
No I don't have full truth
Only the Holy Spirit
Qualifies for all truth
We are fallible even the best
Of teachers can err
As I said before different
Interpretation of scriptures
Cause dissent!
As Paul said there will be
Divisions amongst you!
@@angloaust1575 wait, no you don’t have the Spirit because the He is called the Spirit of truth. You can’t have the Spirit and not have the truth. You are deceived! WHY did Paul say there must be divisions? That THOSE WHO ARE TRUE may be manifested. You aren’t of God.
Catholic church is an organization not a cult. The Bible interpretation is from the Church Fathers who knew the apostles and taken from their teaching. The book of Acts has a Magesterium. Why woukd I not listen to people who knew the Apostles taught ny Jesus?
@@michelleheltz6116 because the Bible doesn’t command you to listen to them. Lol
“He who rejects Me, and does not receive My words, has that which judges him-the word that I have spoken will judge him in the last day. For I have not spoken on My own authority; but the Father who sent Me gave Me a command, what I should say and what I should speak. And I know that His command is everlasting life. Therefore, whatever I speak, just as the Father has told Me, so I speak.””
John 12:48-50 NKJV
“However, when He, the Spirit of truth, has come, He will guide you into all truth; for He will not speak on His own authority, but whatever He hears He will speak; and He will tell you things to come.”
John 16:13 NKJV
Most certainly it is.
i agree
Thanks explain to me.
*the catholic church began with jesus & peter. jesus was the church starter - he appointed peter who is believed to be the first pope.*
wrath of the lamb some believe Pope Leo in 440 AD was the first pope. Also, the first actual church buildings weren’t built until about 312 AD.
@@abideintheWord *i said pope mistakenly. peter is the "first bishop" and the church goes all the way back to his very life. read Patriarch of Antioch wiki page for a general idea.*
wrath of the lamb many believe there is not any evidence that Peter was even in Rome. You look at the verse about Peter being the rock on which Jesus will build His church and it’s two different words in the greek - Petra and petros meaning small stone and boulder. Jesus is the boulder on which the church will be built on - not Peter.
@@abideintheWord *how could you possibly deny peter's life? that's ironic. this isn't about a name meaning. jesus and peter are both directly responsible for the establishment of the church (the catholic church). to deny this is some sort of willful. but, like i said in other comments - people are poisoned against the church. so, there you have it.*
wrath of the lamb what do you mean “deny Peter’s life”? Are you catholic?
This video is sound, and yes, Calvinism is a cult, and yes, salvation can be lost.
@@RonaldMillsaps praise God!
Listen to Bruce Wauchope, MD, on the true gosepl....Calvinism is pernicious doctrine. All will be saved. Read David Bentley Hart. Jerry Fox.
As in universalism?
No that’s wicked.
10:49 Jean Cauvin demanded the Geneva Council to declare him The One & Only Voice of God on Earth AND declare that his writings/words be treated as Holy Writ the same as the biblical writers. THAT should've been a forest of red flags but the Geneva Council approved the declaration as law and enthusiastically enforced it with banishment (loss of property), torture and the chopping block for your head. The burning stake got plenty of use also.
Still looking for the commandment or anything in Scripture where you're supposed to have your own personal torturer. Can't find one either for setting up a confidential informant network to catch people saying unflattering comments or voicing doubts on Cauvin's twisting of Scripture.
We don't follow John Calvin buddy
@@TheFinalJigsaw sure do buddy - whether you know it or not
The bible didn't fall from the sky, you know.
Ok, what does that have to do with the video?
@@abideintheWord Some of the traditions concerning Mary originate from the early Church which established the biblical canon.
I’m sorry I don’t know what you’re talking about. Did I mention Mary in this video? Maybe I did but it’s been so long I don’t remember you’re going to have to help me.
@@abideintheWordJohn Calvin’s real name is John cohen. He divided and conquered
Stick with the KJV. Interesting that the words "sovereign" and "sovereignty" are not in the KJV at all! Do a word search, that Calvinistic idea is not Biblical! All other versions use those words hundreds of times. And no, you cannot lose your salvation. "
These things have I written unto you that believe on the name of the Son of God; that ye may know that ye have eternal life, and that ye may believe on the name of the Son of God." 1 John 5:13
"Eternal Life" - eternal security not conditional security
You seem very prideful. Check out the playlist here -
Once Saved Always Saved
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Lone ranger Christianity is so dangerous because it often leads to an entirely different kind of customized, personalized, and ultimately self-idolizing religion. Make no mistake-it’s the lone ranger who is most likely to become the lone wolf (Acts 20:29-30; 2 Peter 2:1-3; 1 John 2:18-19; 3 John 9-11).
For you to call a large group of Christians a cult is shameful. You views are inaccurate.
It is what it is.
@@abideintheWord You are like a child trying to correct grown men.
The Bible does say the kingdom is given to the child-like!
Repent Gnostic sinner!
Yes ut us
What a rambling bowl of mush! The "church of me, my and myself". Chose your teachers wisely. Don't chose to not have teachers.
I have no idea what you are talking about. I agree you should chose your teachers wisely, I don’t believe in the church of “me”, and I would never tell someone not to have any teachers. I very much believe in them - just not of the heretical type such as the Gnostic Calvinist ones.
@@abideintheWord Your rambling discourse sounds Gnostic to my ears. Much of evangelicalism is becoming like a circus
@@timothykeith1367 no, the early gnostics taught against free will and believed in eternal security. Does that sound like any major belief system you know of today?
Calvinism is wrong!
So how does the presenter determine how to interpret the Bible and why does he disagree with so many other individual Protestants?
Jesus said his Church would never fall away! Matthew 16:18
So what church is the only church that has existed since 33ad?
Not this person's church or interpretations!
Othodox Church only continuous church since 33 ad!
How does this person know what books of the Bible belong in the Bible since there was no cannon of the BiBle the first 500 years!
Orthodox church determined the books belonging to the Bible under Holy Spirit.
Catholics broke off Orthodox Church.
Orthodox believe you can lose salvation and is anti-Calvinist!
Ha, no. The Catholics would make the same claim as you. And BOTH are wrong. Jesus’ church is not a physical one, it’s a spiritual one!
“Our fathers worshiped on this mountain, and you Jews say that in Jerusalem is the place where one ought to worship.” Jesus said to her, “Woman, believe Me, the hour is coming when you will neither on this mountain, nor in Jerusalem, worship the Father. You worship what you do not know; we know what we worship, for salvation is of the Jews. But the hour is coming, and now is, when the true worshipers will worship the Father in spirit and truth; for the Father is seeking such to worship Him. God is Spirit, and those who worship Him must worship in spirit and truth.””
John 4:20-24 NKJV
You worship what you do not know.
Sir, this video is entirely based off misinformation and a straw man. If you do research into church history and read luther (who was before calvin) that he wrote about predestination. Then augistine who was way before them both writing about predestination. So making a claim that calvin is the mediator for calvinist is just a silly claim. If you actually look into what these men wrote about its more like this. That we are saved by grace alone through faith alone in Christ alone for the glory of God alone according to scripture alone.
Sorry, but nowhere in the Bible does it say we are saved by faith alone through grace alone. That’s unbiblical.
And no, Augustine preached the Gnostic heresy first, which Martin Luther and Calvin took over and made it widespread, but none of the early Christians believed this garbage doctrine of demons faith alone. Sorry that is straight up false.
@abideintheWord it literally does tho
Still waiting on that verse Micaela.
@abideintheWord ephesians 2:8
We are saved through grace by our faith, but also a balance of good works that demonstrate our good fruits because faith without works is dead. Come to Christ as you are with faith that will soften and guide you into good and righteous works. However, works can't give you salvation, only the grace of God. Hopefully I explained that well brother. I also would love to converse more about the video you made about calvanism if you can give me an email ?