Explains why he took so long to actually do it. I mean he confronted Shadow like… I dunno maybe 4 times I think ? He fought Omega for some reason. He time traveled probably a dozen times and doesn’t just… time travel to where he can kill Sonic, which he waited for for some reason He really could’ve just not done anything, went back to Elise after Iblis was sealed then bam. Murder isn’t even necessary just scaring her is enough.
I think Mephiles was just sadistic and wanted Silver to know in his last moments that he was the one who doomed his world and time itself as a whole just because he dared to wish that his future was better
Without Mephiles sending Silver to the past, Iblis wouldn't be sealed in Elise, and consequently Mephiles wouldn't be able to reunite with it. It's pretty obvious that he can't join with awakened Iblis, because if he could, he would have done it after Silver fought it.
@@RandomGoonVO Silver could of killed Eggman himself, if you think of it, all of this, is Silver's fault, for not doing anything...no wonder why Blaze loves Sonic more, than that White cuck
1. Mephiles sounds *insanely* good here. Dan Green made him sound like *the devil* in the actual game, but here he sounds more like a normal person lol 2. I remember hearing a fan rewrite that posits that Mephiles' powers should have been his immortality, his time travel and limited shapeshifting using whatever etherial substance his body is made of. This would have still made him a viable threat, but not powerfull enough to kill Sonic all on his own. Making his manipulations feel a bit more warranted. An argument could be made tho that Mephiles is just plain sadistic. What better way to torment Silver than to have him be the one to cause the end of the world while he was trying to save it?
Mephiles' goal was never to just kill Sonic. It was to make Elise cry. Having Silver come after Sonic and Elise helped make the two of them closer, so when Mephiles actually does kill Sonic, Elise cries. Mephiles is by design a master manipulator and a massive sadist. He was inspired by Mephistopheles, a real-life interpretation of the devil.
This gradually went from Silver having a nice character moment of thinking about what's really going on...to him being an audience surrogate about how rushed the thought process of the game's story feels to many. (...Utterly tragic that what many say is the worst Sonic game has the Ultimate Lifeform's character at his peak, but many people don't care because of how awful the game turned out.)
Without Mephiles sending Silver to the past, Iblis wouldn't be sealed in Elise, and consequently Mephiles wouldn't be able to reunite with it. It's pretty obvious that he can't join with awakened Iblis, because if he could, he would have done it after Silver fought it.
if you were in silver's situation, you'd believe anything you could to escape a literal fiery hellhole. also, mephilis needed elise to bond with sonic before killing him, so she'd cry and release iblis. sending silver back just triggered a domino effect that led up to that scenario. a game isnt dumb just cuz you dont understand it.
To be fair, on the surface it did sound like he did it because of the sake of the plot. BUT if we know this thoroughly, when Mephiles is released from his prison, he KNEW he's won! As much as sadistic Mephiles is, he didn't want his fun to end too soon before bringing an apocalypse. This is actually great writing for his character.
This would make sense if Mephiles' goal was to kill Sonic, but it wasn't. His goal was to make Elise cry. By having Silver attempt to kill Sonic, it helps Sonic and Elise become closer, so when Mephiles actually does kill Sonic his plan works perfectly and Elise is devestated.
Fun fact, the reason mephiles had silver kill sonic and didn't do it himself is cause in silvers future, mephiles does kill sonic and makes iblis form however something happened to the chaos emeralds which left only two in the future and left mephiles with the purple one which made mephiles unable to fuse with iblis which started his chaos emerald hunt. so, mephiles faces sonic, Elise crys, sonic does something with the chaos emeralds which made mephiles unable to use them, mephiles kills sonic=iblis is in the future. so mephiles basically needed sonic and Elise to bond and needed to make sure sonic wasn't searching(useing silver to chase after him)for the chaos emeralds, or the entire event of o6 would happen again.
I wish that conversation was canon ‘cause silver is finally thinking about the logic. Because how can It be possible for a blue hedgehog to be the cause of an entire city’s demise?
Mephiles didn't want Silver to kill Sonic. Mephiles simply started the chain of events that led to the sealing of Iblis. If he didn't do that, then he wouldn't be able to combine back into Solaris, as it requires Iblis in it's primal form and seven emeralds. Idk why people don't understand such a basic fact about the story, it operates on a closed time loop, and you can't break those.
Well if that's the case, then that means shadow was always destined to seal mephiles away in the scepter. But there's just one little problem with that... SHADOW WAS STILL IN A COMA ON PRISON ISLAND AT THE TIME MEPHILES SEPARATED FROM IBLIS. HOW COULD HE SIMULTANEOUSLY BE IN SOLEANNA AND ON PRISON ISLAND?
@@PilloTheStar@PilloTheStar Because of two reasons, one being 06 was originally intended as a soft reboot before. This is also why Blaze supposedly doesn't recognize Sonic or why she's not in the Sol Dimension. That is until Generations, TSR and later Izuka himself have mentioned 06 wasn't erased from existence but rather their memories aside from Sonic. Which leads into reason 2 And that being is its stated by a GUN Agent that Shadow joined GUN for multiple years. Meaning 06 is a timeskip. This is also slightly evidenced in Forces where its stated that Sonic has thwarted Eggman for "decades" and not just years. Meaning multiple months if not years have passed, allowing for Shadow to be awake 10 years ago to seal Mephiles. Yeah i have no idea how Sonic and friends are still teenagers despite that but Sonic Lore is already convoluted so 🤷♂️
I’m more so still focused on why tf Blaze is even in 06, why she doesn’t know Sonic in the game and why Sonic team still treats Blaze and Silver as canon partners (I do pretty much know why, doesn’t change the fact that it’s stupid tho)
Just thought of sumn, why not just have silver kill elise? Sure there could be some spell where if she dies, iblis does too, however if that isnt the case... Eh, its sonic 06🤷🏾♂️😂
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I like to think of this conversation was canon, which is why Mephiles killed Sonic himself.
Explains why he took so long to actually do it.
I mean he confronted Shadow like… I dunno maybe 4 times I think ?
He fought Omega for some reason.
He time traveled probably a dozen times and doesn’t just… time travel to where he can kill Sonic, which he waited for for some reason
He really could’ve just not done anything, went back to Elise after Iblis was sealed then bam. Murder isn’t even necessary just scaring her is enough.
“You’re right, why didn’t I think of that!”
*gunshot*
This seriously got me laughing😂
Camping may be for noobs, but it gets the job done
"i mean, it's probably cuz of my fettish for carnage but still, I can't believe that little detail missed my mind! Hahaha , silly me!"
*ANYWAY*
Mephiles has that sweet grandfather laugh, and it haunts me because I'd probably also get manipulated by him
Not the grandfather laugh 🤣🤣🤣
I think Mephiles was just sadistic and wanted Silver to know in his last moments that he was the one who doomed his world and time itself as a whole just because he dared to wish that his future was better
Without Mephiles sending Silver to the past, Iblis wouldn't be sealed in Elise, and consequently Mephiles wouldn't be able to reunite with it. It's pretty obvious that he can't join with awakened Iblis, because if he could, he would have done it after Silver fought it.
@@vazazell5967Wait…I NEVER realized Iblis was sealed because of Silver…What in the world, that’s wild @_@
That's probably why he could have Freed iblis by killing elise to but he went the extra mile
Silver is finally using his brain!
*some of it*
It's over if he uses all of it y'all
@@RandomGoonVO Silver could of killed Eggman himself, if you think of it, all of this, is Silver's fault, for not doing anything...no wonder why Blaze loves Sonic more, than that White cuck
1. Mephiles sounds *insanely* good here.
Dan Green made him sound like *the devil* in the actual game, but here he sounds more like a normal person lol
2. I remember hearing a fan rewrite that posits that Mephiles' powers should have been his immortality, his time travel and limited shapeshifting using whatever etherial substance his body is made of.
This would have still made him a viable threat, but not powerfull enough to kill Sonic all on his own. Making his manipulations feel a bit more warranted.
An argument could be made tho that Mephiles is just plain sadistic. What better way to torment Silver than to have him be the one to cause the end of the world while he was trying to save it?
Mephiles' goal was never to just kill Sonic. It was to make Elise cry. Having Silver come after Sonic and Elise helped make the two of them closer, so when Mephiles actually does kill Sonic, Elise cries.
Mephiles is by design a master manipulator and a massive sadist. He was inspired by Mephistopheles, a real-life interpretation of the devil.
I like to think of this p conversation was canon, which is why Methiles killed Sonic himself.
1:11 Silver just casually breaking the fourth wall.😅😅
He isn't lying about Sonic 06.
0:45
That delivery made me laugh so hard.
I think it's safe to say that Mephiles was the OG troller before trolling became a thing. 🤣🤣 Yall did awesome on this video!
🎉
His name is Memphis Tennessee
This gradually went from Silver having a nice character moment of thinking about what's really going on...to him being an audience surrogate about how rushed the thought process of the game's story feels to many.
(...Utterly tragic that what many say is the worst Sonic game has the Ultimate Lifeform's character at his peak, but many people don't care because of how awful the game turned out.)
Without Mephiles sending Silver to the past, Iblis wouldn't be sealed in Elise, and consequently Mephiles wouldn't be able to reunite with it. It's pretty obvious that he can't join with awakened Iblis, because if he could, he would have done it after Silver fought it.
Sonic '06's story is partly why I have a love-hate relationship with time travel stories. It's a gigantic paradox!
MORE SILVER YESSSSSSSSSS, AND BLAZE TOO LETS GOOOOOOO
if you were in silver's situation, you'd believe anything you could to escape a literal fiery hellhole.
also, mephilis needed elise to bond with sonic before killing him, so she'd cry and release iblis.
sending silver back just triggered a domino effect that led up to that scenario.
a game isnt dumb just cuz you dont understand it.
0:56 Mephiles thinks he's some type of Gman
To be fair, on the surface it did sound like he did it because of the sake of the plot. BUT if we know this thoroughly, when Mephiles is released from his prison, he KNEW he's won! As much as sadistic Mephiles is, he didn't want his fun to end too soon before bringing an apocalypse.
This is actually great writing for his character.
06 deserves a re-write tbh. Certainly working with what we got from the game, there are some things we can take out.
Imagine if this whole conversation is why Mephiles killed Sonic himself later in the game???
This is a freaking *masterpiece*
🙏
Mephiles is basically the Aizen of Sonic 06.
Yet he sounds like Madara
Sonic fans: yeah the gameplay is literally broken but the story is great
The story:
Silver just pulled the “why did Sonk try to make friends with Sliver? Is he stupid?”
Every other meme.
silver: ILL BELIVE ANYTHING YOU SaY
This would make sense if Mephiles' goal was to kill Sonic, but it wasn't. His goal was to make Elise cry. By having Silver attempt to kill Sonic, it helps Sonic and Elise become closer, so when Mephiles actually does kill Sonic his plan works perfectly and Elise is devestated.
It's stupid, but it worked.
"man this game is so dumb"
I agree bud
"He's kind of a pushover" LMFAO
Technically, that's accurate, but damn, what a violation
I honestly feel bad for Silver being introduced in Sonic '06, he's my favorite Sonic character and he deserved better 😭
THE KING HAS RETURNED 😋😋 also help this was perfect 💀 I love mephiles
Sonic: Why do I keep dying?!?!
Spider-Man 2099: Sorry Sonic, but it’s a Canon Event.
Nah man, why does he sound so happy tho? Fr feels like Mephiles could easily misinform me 😭
Fun fact, the reason mephiles had silver kill sonic and didn't do it himself is cause in silvers future, mephiles does kill sonic and makes iblis form however something happened to the chaos emeralds which left only two in the future and left mephiles with the purple one which made mephiles unable to fuse with iblis which started his chaos emerald hunt.
so, mephiles faces sonic, Elise crys, sonic does something with the chaos emeralds which made mephiles unable to use them, mephiles kills sonic=iblis is in the future.
so mephiles basically needed sonic and Elise to bond and needed to make sure sonic wasn't searching(useing silver to chase after him)for the chaos emeralds, or the entire event of o6 would happen again.
I just saw this on Twitter 😆 It was very fun to watch
I wish that conversation was canon ‘cause silver is finally thinking about the logic. Because how can It be possible for a blue hedgehog to be the cause of an entire city’s demise?
It makes no sense.
Accurate lol
Sonic 06 if the characters actually had braincells
Alt Title: If Silver used his brain
Ok
That mephiles voice is perfect
If it took 2% of Silver's brain to understand that Mephiles is lies, then I wonder what'll happen if Silver would use 100% of his brain....
Mephiles didn't want Silver to kill Sonic. Mephiles simply started the chain of events that led to the sealing of Iblis. If he didn't do that, then he wouldn't be able to combine back into Solaris, as it requires Iblis in it's primal form and seven emeralds. Idk why people don't understand such a basic fact about the story, it operates on a closed time loop, and you can't break those.
....oh o-o
Well if that's the case, then that means shadow was always destined to seal mephiles away in the scepter. But there's just one little problem with that...
SHADOW WAS STILL IN A COMA ON PRISON ISLAND AT THE TIME MEPHILES SEPARATED FROM IBLIS. HOW COULD HE SIMULTANEOUSLY BE IN SOLEANNA AND ON PRISON ISLAND?
@@PilloTheStar THE HELL IF I KNOW????
@@PilloTheStar@PilloTheStar Because of two reasons, one being 06 was originally intended as a soft reboot before. This is also why Blaze supposedly doesn't recognize Sonic or why she's not in the Sol Dimension. That is until Generations, TSR and later Izuka himself have mentioned 06 wasn't erased from existence but rather their memories aside from Sonic. Which leads into reason 2
And that being is its stated by a GUN Agent that Shadow joined GUN for multiple years. Meaning 06 is a timeskip. This is also slightly evidenced in Forces where its stated that Sonic has thwarted Eggman for "decades" and not just years. Meaning multiple months if not years have passed, allowing for Shadow to be awake 10 years ago to seal Mephiles.
Yeah i have no idea how Sonic and friends are still teenagers despite that but Sonic Lore is already convoluted so 🤷♂️
@@Keisezrgs TIME TRAVEL
IS
BULLSH!T
I always thought he just did all this convoluted stuff for fun.
He finally used his brain
Mephiles suena a comercial de mueblería 🧍
When the characters realize their bad writing:
Aye holup, sonic whopped silver ass so bad buddy had to play dead and sneak him
Pushover like shit😂
I’m more so still focused on why tf Blaze is even in 06, why she doesn’t know Sonic in the game and why Sonic team still treats Blaze and Silver as canon partners (I do pretty much know why, doesn’t change the fact that it’s stupid tho)
It's worse the you think silver. Instead of sonic it's a little girl
Yep. This is now canon.
Very hilarious
Bro wait till you see what happens after that
is Sonic really gonna let SILVER call him a pushover???
WAZZZZZAAAAASPPPP
Memphis Tennessee is at it again
FACTS!!!
Now we know why mefles final decd to kill sonic
HA HA HA ONE!
Wow
Just thought of sumn, why not just have silver kill elise?
Sure there could be some spell where if she dies, iblis does too, however if that isnt the case...
Eh, its sonic 06🤷🏾♂️😂
What’s the music at 1:01
Memphise's whisper
Lmao
Yo these voices are better than the ones in the actual game WTF
Leave it to Sonic fans to STILL pick up after Sega's lazy trash.
Really though… why didn’t he?
Ahh my favorite ship at last
Id rather . have. Darkage
Stories
Then freakin .colors. Type
writin!
First ❤
Yeah Silver is right I think this game is dumb to😢😢
As silver said in a previous video, "we were desperate man, we had NOTHING"