Everyone makes the same mistake with the battery removal, you are not supposed to raise the handle before you pull the battery out, as raised it puts to much strain on the handle, you should slide it out then raise the handle to wheel it, it's actually in the instructions!
A good review Tim from which I will highlight that there is virtually no downside to this bike. I have had one for a year and can confirm it is just fabulous. Originally bought to go into the garage of a motorhome and provide a means of transport from campsites, I now use it instead of a second car at home. I live in a rural area and can comfortably 'commute' up to 30 miles from a charge source. The option of a top-box allows for a reasonably sized shop AND room for a passenger. 👌👍
Not long bought one myself & I have to agree, it's a fantastic scooter. I found it via the S01 which I was looking to buy but lack of availability & servicing worries was putting me off, then I found the Mó & so glad I did.
I rented one of these on holiday in Mallorca, it was pretty fun silently gliding down the beachfront, so nippy from 0 to 20mph, when I got back my motorbike felt slow off the line!
I understand the focus is on the scooter however I would have liked to see this scooter riding with a petrol scooter in comparison to see the torque difference
Now that was a fun little review of a fun little scooter. Speaking of which, I need to invest in a scooter to take to the track to get around on to take pretty motorcycle racing pictures (what a terrible run-on sentence. C'est la vie, I'm too lazy to change it.).
@@timrodierides I maybe wrong, but as I understand it Silence and SEAT have divided the european market in such a way that Silence S01 and SEAT MO will never be sold side by side in the same country. Here in Sweden SEAT MO is the only model offered, not the Silence S01. Besides from that it's a very funny little thing to drive. I rented it a couple of times from Europcar last year. But it's as lot of money!
I was obviously wrong, there are retailers for both Silence S01 and SEAT MO in the UK. Most interesting. Which one to buy then? Anyhow, in my country we don't have that problem. Here, the scooter is priced ~75000 SEK (~6100 GBP/~7300 EUR)
I have a full bike license. But with travelling in peak times in birmingham I barely go above 50 anyway as that’s the highest I can go legally on the Aston express way . Cost me £15 a week to do 120-130 miles a week .52x15 = 780 Insurance 100 Tax 80 Maintenance I do myself about £100 a year . So £1100 a year to run without they outlay of the bike . This apparently needs 6-8 hours and currently Octopus energy offer 5p an hour off-peak 12am-4am I would need to up every night so that’s 5p x4 = 20p x4 nights 80p but call it 1 pound That’s £52 a year compared to £780 that’s just fuel . But the ultimate comparison would be the Honda cbf 125 pre2021 which I owned and did 115mpg Cost of fuel uk is 1.40x4.5 = 6.30 a gallon Honda cb125f pre2021 cost £6.30 to 115miles 52x6.30= £327 a year in fuel for me Although I’m aware the new 21 is claimed 188mpg expect 150mpg So if insurance is similar for both circa 150-200 I would save £5 a week . Not a lot when you consider a replacement battery is £2000 and it will need one eventually.
I’m on an Xmax same sort of price and looks…. Quality wise they are different gravy to one of these, dual shock is required for heavy use, no abs. + same price even with a government scheme, I think it’s still gonna be a good 2-3 years before these are cost effective transport.
The main thing for me would be the lack of servicing (because I do it but don’t like doing it if you get my drift) and just the silence while riding. All of a sudden I’d take the boy and go listening for birds in the woods. I’d miss the Honda 125-sounds a bit I guess but I think I’d learn to love new sounds while also doing my (very) little bit to reduce oil consumption.
Compré la Seat Mo 125 el verano pasado, y no puedo estar más a disgusto con el servicio post-venta de Seat. El 17 de Diciembre, circulado la moto se paró. Tenía energía pero no respondía al acelerador. Llamo a la grúa y el 19 de diciembre la dejan en el taller oficial de Seat donde la había comprado. Ahí empieza la odisea. A día de hoy no se ni lo que tienen la moto ni el tiempo que seguiré sin ella. Sólo se, porque es lo que me dicen desde atención al cliente y en el concesionario, que se ha enviado la batería a Seat para que la revise. Es inadmisible que traten así a los clientes. Si no saben o pueden reparar vehículos eléctricos, que no se metan a venderlos. Por lo que he estado investigando, mi problema le ha pasado a más gente. Pensaros mucho comprar, al menos en Seat, este producto.
Great video, unfortunately mine needs a new battery and charging plug, the front forks are too bouncy. I'm waiting to hear from the dealership regarding when mine is ready to pick up, seems to be having problems getting the parts, but when it's working it's great fun and cheap to run after hearing energy prices are set to go down. I can't wait to get it back, just hoping the same reliability issues I've had with mine don't return
Call me a thickie, but it’s just occurred to me, watching this, that unlike conventional bikes (and cars), leccy bikes won’t have that change of weight and handling between a full and empty “tank”. All that torque sounds good…….. thinking that giant triumph is gonna look comparatively light on torque in a couple of years time 😳
Thanks for that - I've been looking for the 'right' e-scooter for a while, the JS2A from the likes of alibaba having been head-and-shoulders above anything else I've seen, but... alibaba... This S01 doesn't look horrible or horribly built, may have sufficient range and speed for me, and it's a nice bonus it actually has a bit of storage - most e-scooters have the battery right under the seat, sigh. I wonder if I can track down the original manufacturer to save a bit of cash?
does the velocimeter works right? mine marks 100km/h when in reality the speed is 85 km/hr and it does the same with the real km versus the odometer ones, idk why a brand like seat has the need to lie this way to their buyers. it´s sad..
I’m very tempted to get a scooter at the moment to commute with the price of fuel goin through the roof. Are these really a viable alternative? I’ve a couple of miles of motorway en route and the weather protection looks a bit rubbish. That’s what really puts me off.
It looks no worse or better than a ICE 125. You'll probably be able to get a windscreen for it. The weight of 150kg will make it a bit stable. My Yamaha 125 is a shade under 100kg and I drove it from York to Glasgow and it was truly a dream to drive. I know this EV won't be able to do that, but for short stuff this I hope will be perfect as I am very interested in it.
if you hold down the set button whilst powering it on; it brings up a menu. I think in there you can unset the electronic speed limiter... Im curious if you have a go let me know what the top speed really is?
@@timrodierides you mean its a copy from silence s01 ? or the silence s01 its copy from seat ? i saw diferences like the s01+ more speed ...what diferences they have? is s01 any good and reliable ? or the seat better ?
Don't like the idea of brakes locking up so readily, especially since we have rain more often than not in this country. Electric bikes not pushing any buttons for me yet but it will no doubt work for lots of folk.
I don’t expect ABS for that price although it should be a pretty simple exercise for the OEM to put regenerative ABS on an ebike. I’ve got a long history in loud, fast bikes. It’s not one of those but but they nail “cheap and cheerful”
Seems like a nice bike. It's just too darn expensive and the range in sport mode just ruins it for me. I would have to charge it way too often and i would always be thinking that i'm killing the battery a little bit every time i charge it. I wonder about the motor in the hub. Does that have a weakness if you drive through a lot of puddles? Part of it could get submerged.
Hub motors are actually extremely robust and long lasting. I've got a generic Chinese 1500w hub motor on a bicycle that's been abused In all weather for 4 years with no issue!
It looks nice but for me seems a bit expensive and the small range and long charge time, I think carrying the 40kg battery up 3 flights of stairs would get old pretty quick too.
@@stephenlennox6491 only if you passed your test before febuary 2001. If you passed your car test and then. Got a CBT then you're OK for life. If you got a CBT then passed your car test within 2 years then you're good for life. If you've not done a CBT and you past your test after Feb 2001... I have bad news for you.
@@4RMS7TRONG Oh well I am fine for life then. The thing that bugs me the most is that you have to retake the CBT every two years to ride a 125cc. All these new 125 EV riders will have to fork out £120 every two years.Or take the full test just to ride the 125cc.
@@stephenlennox6491 yup. Although the cbt isn't on any digital system that I know of. And I've not known anyone ask to see proof of cbt. I guess maybe for insurance purposes in an accident.
Why oh why do manufacturers make a compromise SOMEWHERE everytime. Software locked to 59mph…but why??? At least give us 65mph so we don’t feel like we’re holding up the entire world on a dual carriagway
Why are you trying to pronounce “Silence” the french way? Firstly, it’s a Spanish company and secondly, I’ve bought one in Spain from Silence direct and even they pronounce it the English way!
It would seem most people on ICE bikes have a desperate need to draw attention to themselves, where the more noise they make the better. Living in Italy, the advent of electric scooters thus bring some hope of a more quiet and peaceful existence for the rest of us. The sooner they are outlawed, the better. Good riddance! 😜
So it's twice the price of a 125 ice scooter which likely has lower emissions than the generation of electricity to charge the electric scooter.And when it's range has been covered it will be hours before it can be ridden again.
*Great **Latest.Bike** Scooter ! I have had it for almost 2 years now and it is still working great so far! Brake and acceleration are really smooth!*
I just bought one looking forward to using it for work
Being able to take the battery indoors to charge solves so many issues
And fire risk
Everyone makes the same mistake with the battery removal, you are not supposed to raise the handle before you pull the battery out, as raised it puts to much strain on the handle, you should slide it out then raise the handle to wheel it, it's actually in the instructions!
A good review Tim from which I will highlight that there is virtually no downside to this bike. I have had one for a year and can confirm it is just fabulous. Originally bought to go into the garage of a motorhome and provide a means of transport from campsites, I now use it instead of a second car at home. I live in a rural area and can comfortably 'commute' up to 30 miles from a charge source. The option of a top-box allows for a reasonably sized shop AND room for a passenger. 👌👍
Roy, where did you buy it from?
Not long bought one myself & I have to agree, it's a fantastic scooter. I found it via the S01 which I was looking to buy but lack of availability & servicing worries was putting me off, then I found the Mó & so glad I did.
Thanks for the review and letting us know the details. Cool to see how far bikes are coming along. 💪🔥
I rented one of these on holiday in Mallorca, it was pretty fun silently gliding down the beachfront, so nippy from 0 to 20mph, when I got back my motorbike felt slow off the line!
I wish I could buy it here in the USA. It looks really cool.
I understand the focus is on the scooter however I would have liked to see this scooter riding with a petrol scooter in comparison to see the torque difference
Now that was a fun little review of a fun little scooter. Speaking of which, I need to invest in a scooter to take to the track to get around on to take pretty motorcycle racing pictures (what a terrible run-on sentence. C'est la vie, I'm too lazy to change it.).
Very cool. And quite a useful safety measure it would appear, take the battery out and a thieving sod can't nick it as easily for a joy ride.
This makes me lament the disappearance of the e-mii. But not a bad 2nd place. Thanks for this.
It's actually a silence s01 made in Spain by silence for years, just re badged 👍🏻
Yup! I think I say that?
@@timrodierides I maybe wrong, but as I understand it Silence and SEAT have divided the european market in such a way that Silence S01 and SEAT MO will never be sold side by side in the same country. Here in Sweden SEAT MO is the only model offered, not the Silence S01. Besides from that it's a very funny little thing to drive. I rented it a couple of times from Europcar last year. But it's as lot of money!
I was obviously wrong, there are retailers for both Silence S01 and SEAT MO in the UK. Most interesting. Which one to buy then? Anyhow, in my country we don't have that problem. Here, the scooter is priced ~75000 SEK (~6100 GBP/~7300 EUR)
I have a full bike license. But with travelling in peak times in birmingham I barely go above 50 anyway as that’s the highest I can go legally on the Aston express way . Cost me £15 a week to do 120-130 miles a week .52x15 = 780
Insurance 100
Tax 80
Maintenance I do myself about £100 a year . So £1100 a year to run without they outlay of the bike .
This apparently needs 6-8 hours and currently Octopus energy offer 5p an hour off-peak 12am-4am
I would need to up every night so that’s 5p x4 = 20p x4 nights 80p but call it 1 pound
That’s £52 a year compared to £780 that’s just fuel .
But the ultimate comparison would be the Honda cbf 125 pre2021 which I owned and did 115mpg
Cost of fuel uk is 1.40x4.5 = 6.30 a gallon
Honda cb125f pre2021 cost £6.30 to 115miles 52x6.30= £327 a year in fuel for me
Although I’m aware the new 21 is claimed 188mpg expect 150mpg
So if insurance is similar for both circa 150-200 I would save £5 a week .
Not a lot when you consider a replacement battery is £2000 and it will need one eventually.
I’m on an Xmax same sort of price and looks….
Quality wise they are different gravy to one of these, dual shock is required for heavy use, no abs. + same price even with a government scheme, I think it’s still gonna be a good 2-3 years before these are cost effective transport.
Agreed. There are 125 scooters that are way cheaper to buy particularly the Chinese lexmoto etc and range / charge is not an issue.
The main thing for me would be the lack of servicing (because I do it but don’t like doing it if you get my drift) and just the silence while riding. All of a sudden I’d take the boy and go listening for birds in the woods. I’d miss the Honda 125-sounds a bit I guess but I think I’d learn to love new sounds while also doing my (very) little bit to reduce oil consumption.
Compré la Seat Mo 125 el verano pasado, y no puedo estar más a disgusto con el servicio post-venta de Seat.
El 17 de Diciembre, circulado la moto se paró. Tenía energía pero no respondía al acelerador.
Llamo a la grúa y el 19 de diciembre la dejan en el taller oficial de Seat donde la había comprado.
Ahí empieza la odisea.
A día de hoy no se ni lo que tienen la moto ni el tiempo que seguiré sin ella.
Sólo se, porque es lo que me dicen desde atención al cliente y en el concesionario, que se ha enviado la batería a Seat para que la revise.
Es inadmisible que traten así a los clientes. Si no saben o pueden reparar vehículos eléctricos, que no se metan a venderlos.
Por lo que he estado investigando, mi problema le ha pasado a más gente.
Pensaros mucho comprar, al menos en Seat, este producto.
Well that was a most enjoyable review and actually really informative such as I now know it rains in Essex.
Thanks for a good first ride review!
Great video, unfortunately mine needs a new battery and charging plug, the front forks are too bouncy. I'm waiting to hear from the dealership regarding when mine is ready to pick up, seems to be having problems getting the parts, but when it's working it's great fun and cheap to run after hearing energy prices are set to go down. I can't wait to get it back, just hoping the same reliability issues I've had with mine don't return
Great review, really interesting. I like the battery removal option and there is a place for these in our cities .
Wow, with a few short accelerations in sport mode the battery went down from 92% to 89%. That's not encouraging.
Call me a thickie, but it’s just occurred to me, watching this, that unlike conventional bikes (and cars), leccy bikes won’t have that change of weight and handling between a full and empty “tank”.
All that torque sounds good…….. thinking that giant triumph is gonna look comparatively light on torque in a couple of years time 😳
Thanks for that - I've been looking for the 'right' e-scooter for a while, the JS2A from the likes of alibaba having been head-and-shoulders above anything else I've seen, but... alibaba...
This S01 doesn't look horrible or horribly built, may have sufficient range and speed for me, and it's a nice bonus it actually has a bit of storage - most e-scooters have the battery right under the seat, sigh. I wonder if I can track down the original manufacturer to save a bit of cash?
Thanks for reaching out... (that has to be worse than 'mobility')
does the velocimeter works right? mine marks 100km/h when in reality the speed is 85 km/hr and it does the same with the real km versus the odometer ones, idk why a brand like seat has the need to lie this way to their buyers. it´s sad..
whats with the silence s01 scooter? they are the same and they are spanish
I’m very tempted to get a scooter at the moment to commute with the price of fuel goin through the roof. Are these really a viable alternative? I’ve a couple of miles of motorway en route and the weather protection looks a bit rubbish. That’s what really puts me off.
It looks no worse or better than a ICE 125. You'll probably be able to get a windscreen for it. The weight of 150kg will make it a bit stable. My Yamaha 125 is a shade under 100kg and I drove it from York to Glasgow and it was truly a dream to drive. I know this EV won't be able to do that, but for short stuff this I hope will be perfect as I am very interested in it.
So its just a Silence S01/S02 with a SEAT badge?
if you hold down the set button whilst powering it on; it brings up a menu. I think in there you can unset the electronic speed limiter... Im curious if you have a go let me know what the top speed really is?
you need to buy an ECU for higher performance. just like a car
Looks brilliant. Are they available only from Seat ? Shame as the other bikes were there you didn’t show the alternative colours.
Yes, they're only available from SEAT dealers. Though it's basically a rebadged Silence S01...
@@timrodierides you mean its a copy from silence s01 ? or the silence s01 its copy from seat ? i saw diferences like the s01+ more speed ...what diferences they have? is s01 any good and reliable ? or the seat better ?
Nice spot for wheelies.
Btw, what about Your new bike Tim?
Looks good and still has plenty of storage under the seat, not all EV scooters do.
What’s the point of the front brake lever?
I think it does the brakes
@@timrodierides 😂…you know what I mean
Can't wait for more manufacturers to bring EV moped/scooters to the U.S.
Any good looking EV Scoots available?
I wonder why you would buy this and not one from Silence directly?
Not sure
What's the voltage output of the battery?
Don't like the idea of brakes locking up so readily, especially since we have rain more often than not in this country. Electric bikes not pushing any buttons for me yet but it will no doubt work for lots of folk.
I don’t expect ABS for that price although it should be a pretty simple exercise for the OEM to put regenerative ABS on an ebike.
I’ve got a long history in loud, fast bikes. It’s not one of those but but they nail “cheap and cheerful”
The new one has ABS
Seems like a nice bike. It's just too darn expensive and the range in sport mode just ruins it for me. I would have to charge it way too often and i would always be thinking that i'm killing the battery a little bit every time i charge it. I wonder about the motor in the hub. Does that have a weakness if you drive through a lot of puddles? Part of it could get submerged.
Hub motors are actually extremely robust and long lasting. I've got a generic Chinese 1500w hub motor on a bicycle that's been abused In all weather for 4 years with no issue!
If you could fast charge this it would be perfect
It looks nice but for me seems a bit expensive and the small range and long charge time, I think carrying the 40kg battery up 3 flights of stairs would get old pretty quick too.
Just lower a cable down
When will it be legal in the UK?
They are legal. You need a CBT and either car license or a provisional motorcycle one.
Don you need to have a cbt or can you ride it on a car licence?
All bikes need a CBT even with a car licence.
@@4RMS7TRONG Wrong. 50cc can be ridden without a CBT on a car licence.
@@stephenlennox6491 only if you passed your test before febuary 2001. If you passed your car test and then. Got a CBT then you're OK for life. If you got a CBT then passed your car test within 2 years then you're good for life. If you've not done a CBT and you past your test after Feb 2001... I have bad news for you.
@@4RMS7TRONG Oh well I am fine for life then.
The thing that bugs me the most is that you have to retake the CBT every two years to ride a 125cc. All these new 125 EV riders will have to fork out £120 every two years.Or take the full test just to ride the 125cc.
@@stephenlennox6491 yup. Although the cbt isn't on any digital system that I know of. And I've not known anyone ask to see proof of cbt. I guess maybe for insurance purposes in an accident.
Looks like the silence 502.
How was the cake?
Brownie was a solid 9/10. Moist on the inside but actually nice and crisp on the outside. Loses a point for having a freeze dried raspberry on it.
....its £5800 now. Greed didn't take longto kìck in. Back to the Honda........
FFSEAT
@@timrodierides watch your sales die.....
enjoyed this subbed range?
Why oh why do manufacturers make a compromise SOMEWHERE everytime.
Software locked to 59mph…but why??? At least give us 65mph so we don’t feel like we’re holding up the entire world on a dual carriagway
Why are you trying to pronounce “Silence” the french way? Firstly, it’s a Spanish company and secondly, I’ve bought one in Spain from Silence direct and even they pronounce it the English way!
I was being silly
Should have abs. As it doesnt no buy for me.
I find the ABS on honda scooters more dangerous because 90% of the brakes get removed when triggered and you keep going into the car in front
nice motor vehicle
Just what I need for the British weather a two wheeled washing machine
It would seem most people on ICE bikes have a desperate need to draw attention to themselves, where the more noise they make the better. Living in Italy, the advent of electric scooters thus bring some hope of a more quiet and peaceful existence for the rest of us. The sooner they are outlawed, the better. Good riddance! 😜
regulators are soooooo slow adapting to electric clean transportation.
So it's twice the price of a 125 ice scooter which likely has lower emissions than the generation of electricity to charge the electric scooter.And when it's range has been covered it will be hours before it can be ridden again.
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5gs ? Nah
He couldn't even ride a scooter wobbling around looked unsafe a teenager could of done better
Could have* (I think you learn that in year 5 so I’ll let you off)
you are talking so much and saying nothing
i bet the wheel bearings dont last
electric will be so expensive after octember that it would be better to use a sail on the back