Hey Viper. Rare to see you presenting directly to camera like this so wanted to acknowledge it’s well scripted but still natural and nicely paced. It’s also well edited with visuals that really complement your insights. Nice job trying something different when you’re already time pressed getting streamed content out!
That would potentially leave them unable to store relics in lategame if they run out of stone, and for Georgians it would make their primary eco bonus far less practical. I think the more logical change if they need to be nerfed would be making them have 0 base projectiles like a TC.
@@teddyhaines6613 its their hypothetical problem.. should´ve purchased some stone while they could. Anyway when you cant buy 100 stone in lategame the game is already over...
I'm a bit worried about fortified churches not costing any stone, at least they can't have more than 6 range but I still feel like its gonna result in abuse of the building with players spamming it everywhere
It's an unraidable eco with +10% efficiency. Pretty broken in the late game. Don't know how you beat Georgians in post imp without a massive advantage going into it
@@Desomorphinum Ya, I can see it ending up getting a stone cost or a steep price increase, but Even with that, The Georgians seem really strong Late game, The answer might just be to take advantage of their weak early game and stomp them out fast before they can stabilise.
Taking less damage on hills and less repair cost, this is the ultimate Viper castles on hills civ. They should be incredibly difficult to push in castle age, just drop 2 monetarys, u can garrison, build redemption monks, counterattack with knights and the villagers even work more efficient, fast imp is maybe the way
I think it would have made more sense to see the mule cart for the Mongols and Huns, as they lived a nomadic life. I would also like to see a separate architecture set for the Armenians and Georgians. I wonder why developers don't add new architectures. for example why viking teuton and hun have the same architecture when they all have different architectures?
You're 100% right. Doesn't fit thematically but looks like the devs thought it was a cool mechanic and forced it in. They could have left this one for the Tibetans and Nepalese. Pretty creative dlc nonetheless
I'm actually frustrated I didn't think of that.😂 but YES you are definitely right. I have a hunch the devs thought of this, and are just seeing how this works, as it would be quite a change to any civilization that has it. I'm optimistic though.
Interesting moment, that Svans tower, was built, irl, in only ONE region of Georgia, and was a kinda family save-house, due to blood wars in Svanetia. You can still visit these towers if you come to Georgia.
Svan Towers are not only in Svaneti, you can find them in other regions easily scattered even in Tbilisi. The thing is they are always built on mountainous terrain.
@@user-vt4fu2lg8l Tbilisi. maps.app.goo.gl/PdebvjYWTc35YGFs9 Racha. maps.app.goo.gl/dhnfUUYDpoJkFANW8 I'm sure I can find others If I dig deep. Although, some of them are in ruins.
@@AmikoEz False. Svan towers are exclusive to Svaneti. The one in Tbilisi is a recreation. You can find other tower houses in regions like Tusheti, but they aren't Svan towers.
I'm hoping to be able to visit Georgia some day and stay in Ushguli for at least a few days. The serene landscape and wonderful remnants of medieval architecture should make for a peaceful experience.
I think these should have some stone cost, they don't require an Imp upgrade to get to unlike Malay harbours. With the piercing effect of the Castle upgrade I think these could easily be abused
6 range max, not impacted by blacksmith, one arrow unless vils, outranged by mango. It's like a weaker TC that you can't drop res in. It'll be useful in certain situations but probably not game breaking. I feel like it would be hell for enemies in monk/siege meta, safe monk garrison, BUT no atonement, can't convert enemy monks, so.. what monk push?
Can you use the mule as a blocker for units? I imagine that is how the hussite wagon was supposed to be used but if it costs no pop, what's preventing someone from going into HC or armenian UU, surrounded by them? I don't think it would be like battering rams between units and getting archer agro as they have a lower target priority as a building, they'd just wreck melee unit pathing With no limit on how many can exist at any given time... Michi games are going to be funny
Fortress Building made entirely of stone. Cost: 200 wood yeah I think any form of raids (especially from ranged units) will fail miserably against this civ in the late game
@@dejuren1367i don't think so - each dlc always comes out with OP civs to drum up chatter, controversy, and thus interest. the first patch almost always fixes the issue a week or three into release.
You can't upgrade the range of the Fortified Church, it will always have 6 range. Late-game archers won't have issues other than the fact it takes a long time to destroy the building without siege, and since it's cheap the Georgian/Armenian player can just build 20 of them and delay your push for ever.
Reduced damage paired with healing cav seem pretty broken. Those monasteries giving +10% work rate means their eco will be pretty insane. If you don't do significant damage to this civ in Feudal, you'll have a hard time defeating them later on.
Remember, the reduced damage is pretty situational. Otherwise their cavalry play doesn't seem that different from, say, Khmer. Or Slavs, who are getting their farm bonus back to 15%.
Surrounding him with fortified churches?... Sure... you'll need a lot of villagers to fill those churches though. Empty fortified churches don't shoot.
I think the mobile cart drop off will make being tower rush harder. You can adjust the position of the cart after your opponent has dropped their tower to enable you to still collect the resource. It might make them feel as though they need to drop the tower closer and therefore more likely that you'll see them building it.
Does this mean woodlines and gold/stone mines are now more exposed? Now you cannot quick palisade using the camps as a high hp anchor point to continue wood and gold collecting in peace
The mule, It makes sense to include this unit in the Mongol civilization due to their nomadic nature. I hope that in the future, it will be added as an expansion to the Mongols :)
I think the fortified churches are super strong. Especially for dropping them forward, only costing wood. And even for raid defense. I think a siege monk push with them would be super good.
Hear me out i think this civ will actually have insane scout rush. The fact that their scouts heals makes them insane to deal with add to that them all ready having a wood mill, that means 1 vil on wood will be enough to click fedual at like 16 vills. Now ur in fedual u have scouts that can heal that can be insane.
I think from initial reaction that people are sleeping on Georgia We often see games won and lost by who wins the hills and who can raid the opponent to death. When you combine towers in your base with insane eco boosts with hills that are hard to break. Plus regenerating hussars. All those things are huge winning conditions. Plus great siege to win those hills. It will be interesting to see how people will play the civ in late game. You can almost justify raiding vs defending your home because the monataries give your protection both in garrison space and attack plus time to hit them before they hit you. I can’t imagine most Georgia opponents choosing to raid them with defenses anywhere vs defend their own base. Which is a win for Georgia by itself. I see the UU being very strong for the purpose it serves. It will be the main unit to find military whereas the stables will be used for raiding units.
1. Eco boost comes later in game and needs planing, which makes it more complex 2. Early game eco is shit and for non pro players it will be hard to produce villagers 3. Your opponent knows you will go for cavalry cause you don’t have many options so you will be countered 4. Every map with water/lakes will be shit for georgians 5. With bad early game eco and No bombard cannon means you will struggle to defend castles against fast trebu push As viper said it has no real strong one unit or buff but a synergy, which makes them pretty shit at attacking forcing to lose map control and be defensive booming until late game push. In rts having map control is great. I am more scared of warrior priest with 125 hp cavalry speed and healing faster than priest, any relic dependent map will be auto win for armenians+ free relic …
feel like the potential on only wood towers is high. Towerrushing itself is strong bc 200w tower, which covers more area (same range, more area) is strong, but what i like to see is using it to build much mapcontrol with 1 cart, few vills and unlimited towers. stacking them in endgame seems stupid :D
I feel like they might be kinda similar to Spanish, great in low elo but once people get a bit better, they are underwhelming. Like they have a lot of great defensive techs and buildings, but that means you are *teching into* defense. All the resources spent and buildings built are not pushing the enemy, and higher elo will punish that. Compare that to Koreans who are great at defense because they SAVE resources, which allows them to push a bit harder on the front while still getting good defense. And they don't have a killer unit to push with. Sure cav regens but in a stand up fight cavalier get shredded by halb and take a lot more damage from arbs. The unique cav if elite is paladin-adjacent but you need castles to mass and tons of upgrades. I feel like their best bet would be monk/siege, BUT no atonement, no counter to enemy monks with atonement, so you lose monk v. monk. I dunno, interesting but maybe not OP.
I hope next DLC they break the Italians into Venetians, Genoese, Milanese and Naples, would make more historical sense and be cool asf. Savoy, Papal States or Florentians are cool candidates too. Imagine how op the monks from the Papal States would be.
Wow, my country got added into my favorite RTS game. I don't even know what to say, I'm waiting for its release so that I can try it out first hand. I've been away so I'll try not to spoil myself, I assume this is a beta version of the civ? Anyhow, the fortress looks amazing, we have one like that. The watch towers (I think?) look like the ones that our monks live in, you have to climb really high up, we don't have many towers like those, we always had fortresses on top of hills and mountains. The flag is our current one, nothing like the old original one, looks awkward tbh :D but at least it has crosses, Georgians have always associated themselves with Christian crosses and what not, it was their moving force (their belief) in combat and many other real life related occasions. The biggest part that I'm curious about is the voicelines, idk which Georgian they'll use for it. We don't have a lot of voice actors (or any at all) that speak fluent old Georgian. Also, the walls look a lot like our old walls. I'm glad Georgians were introduced as cav, or at least as a melee civ. Georgians were known for being strong melee fighters, not so much of a cav-driven nation, but at least we're melee civ in Aoe2 :) The highground bonus, man, this is amazing, really real-life copy paste of how Georgians fought. I think this is the most realistic bonus of Georgians since Georgians used to defend real-life attacks on their fortresses from the highground, we had/have our fortresses on highgrounds after all. The fortified church is... interesting. We'd never in our life fight in/from church as far as I understand our history. But being able to garrison villages and monks inside is really realistic. Even to this day you might see church protecting certain citizens and church usually overrules the government, but it doesn't have as much influence in real life today cause of obvious reasons, but it had all the influence before. We do have churches everywhere tho. I think I'm fine with this building treated as a tower or a light fortress. I love Svan towers. That's one of the highest mountainous places in our country, it's an important place. I love that they named the towers after that part of the country. I'm glad they chose Monaspa as our special units. They were the King's personal special force type of warriors, created from multiple people with various beliefs with various backgrounds, slaves, mercenaries, warriors, exiled etc. I love that in Aoe2 they gave them (or any unit really. doesn't matter) a bonus where if they stand together, they grow stronger. That's how it was, that's how it still is atm irl. I don't know how it really translates into English, but the phrase goes something like: "Together we stand strong". Or at least that's the message of it. Thanks for reviewing Georgians :)
Now that the civ has been out for a while, what do you think of it? Did it live up to your expectations? Also, what do you think of the fact that they and the Armenians use the Mediterranean architecture style?
It's weird so many people are worried about the Fortified Church. They are expensive and need expensive units added to actually fire arrows. They don't even have murder holes like TCs do. A great building but I don't believe FC into FC rush will be a problem
Hey, i'm a casual Aoe2 player but i've known and played the game since i was 7. I think that all the new civilizations recently introduced had a "personalized" meccanic that made them really interesting to play, leaving the OG ones a bit "behind" on that regard. Do you think that the Persian rework is a step towards adding "new flavour" to all those civilizations that have been in the game for a while?
Probably not. Persians specifically have suffered for a while from being underpowered outside of a few specific hybrid maps. Civs like Chinese, Britons, Franks, Byzantines, Turks and Mongols are strong on a wide variety of different maps.
@@teddyhaines6613 i'm not really talking about strength in game, but just adding something that makes each civ a bit more unique. Tbh, that could be also just some kind of new texture
I feel like the fortified church, while a very cool and interesting addition, is doing way too much for its cost of 200 wood. It has the same health and range as a TC, I think it'd be fair if it cost 25-50 stone in addition to the wood cost. It would be more thematic as well, seeing as the model has extensive stone fortifications.
its cool that they are pumping out new and interesting civs and making them powerful for people to get them but i am worried about the original civs getting way too power creeped. also georgians have a lot of defensive bonuses why give them cavalry bonus? wouldnt that power be more fitting in a steppe-culture? some things are not fitting well thematically.
Great video, you are a very good salesman 😂 better than Microsoft to make you purchase the new civs, and the love for the game is so apparent. Waiting for some mastapieces with the new badboys.
I’m from Georgia )) everything is great and close to militry history of Georgia but i think it should have some unique infant unit cause i think cavalry was not strength of Georgia
You got that right. The Armenians and Georgians have completely backwards specialties, with the Georgians being good with cavalry and siege and the Armenians being good with infantry. They should be swapped. The Armenians also get a Khevsur warrior as a UU, which is super egregious, and even worse is their naval specialty, which never existed for them, considering they were landlocked for most of their history. This whole DLC is a mess historically, even though it is fun.
Hey Viper. Rare to see you presenting directly to camera like this so wanted to acknowledge it’s well scripted but still natural and nicely paced. It’s also well edited with visuals that really complement your insights.
Nice job trying something different when you’re already time pressed getting streamed content out!
He has done civ reviews in the past in this style.
@@PurpleWarlockyeah but this one was definitely more polished (I like them all but some people care about presentation more)
@@samwisegamgee8318 the previous civ reviews were well done too
Bet MS is offering some cash for the dlc hype and Viper got himself a good editor.
It's a big step up from his usual content but I wouldn't say that it sounds natural. You can hear easiliy he is reading a script.
These are well produced videos. I wouldn't shy away from doing them more.
I am almost 100% sure that the Fortified Church will get an additional cost stone cost at the next update after the civs release.
I think so too. Maybe making the first Fortified Church only cost wood and everyone after that cost somewhat 50-75 stone could be a good idea.
That would potentially leave them unable to store relics in lategame if they run out of stone, and for Georgians it would make their primary eco bonus far less practical. I think the more logical change if they need to be nerfed would be making them have 0 base projectiles like a TC.
@@teddyhaines6613 its their hypothetical problem.. should´ve purchased some stone while they could. Anyway when you cant buy 100 stone in lategame the game is already over...
@@teddyhaines6613 But they already have 0 base projectiles...
I'm a bit worried about fortified churches not costing any stone, at least they can't have more than 6 range but I still feel like its gonna result in abuse of the building with players spamming it everywhere
Only 200 wood seems just too cheap
It's an unraidable eco with +10% efficiency. Pretty broken in the late game. Don't know how you beat Georgians in post imp without a massive advantage going into it
@@Desomorphinum Ya, I can see it ending up getting a stone cost or a steep price increase, but Even with that, The Georgians seem really strong Late game, The answer might just be to take advantage of their weak early game and stomp them out fast before they can stabilise.
Yeah, 25 o 50 stone cost should be right
Spamming it everywhere would be useless. Fortified churches don't fire when they are empty.
Taking less damage on hills and less repair cost, this is the ultimate Viper castles on hills civ. They should be incredibly difficult to push in castle age, just drop 2 monetarys, u can garrison, build redemption monks, counterattack with knights and the villagers even work more efficient, fast imp is maybe the way
I think it would have made more sense to see the mule cart for the Mongols and Huns, as they lived a nomadic life. I would also like to see a separate architecture set for the Armenians and Georgians. I wonder why developers don't add new architectures. for example why viking teuton and hun have the same architecture when they all have different architectures?
You're 100% right. Doesn't fit thematically but looks like the devs thought it was a cool mechanic and forced it in.
They could have left this one for the Tibetans and Nepalese. Pretty creative dlc nonetheless
Yeah, they should expand the availability of the mule cart. BTW pretty funny how vills can BUILD a donkey
I'm actually frustrated I didn't think of that.😂 but YES you are definitely right.
I have a hunch the devs thought of this, and are just seeing how this works, as it would be quite a change to any civilization that has it.
I'm optimistic though.
Goths would also be an interesting candidate
The mule cart would make so freaking op in maps where hunt is around the map, more viable in steppeand broken af
Interesting moment, that Svans tower, was built, irl, in only ONE region of Georgia, and was a kinda family save-house, due to blood wars in Svanetia. You can still visit these towers if you come to Georgia.
Svan Towers are not only in Svaneti, you can find them in other regions easily scattered even in Tbilisi.
The thing is they are always built on mountainous terrain.
@@AmikoEz Really? I thought it kinda similar towers, and not specifically Svan towers.
@@user-vt4fu2lg8l
Tbilisi.
maps.app.goo.gl/PdebvjYWTc35YGFs9
Racha.
maps.app.goo.gl/dhnfUUYDpoJkFANW8
I'm sure I can find others If I dig deep.
Although, some of them are in ruins.
@@AmikoEz False. Svan towers are exclusive to Svaneti. The one in Tbilisi is a recreation. You can find other tower houses in regions like Tusheti, but they aren't Svan towers.
I'm hoping to be able to visit Georgia some day and stay in Ushguli for at least a few days. The serene landscape and wonderful remnants of medieval architecture should make for a peaceful experience.
New meta: fortified monasteries as fancy palisade walls. I hope this won't break the game.
I think these should have some stone cost, they don't require an Imp upgrade to get to unlike Malay harbours. With the piercing effect of the Castle upgrade I think these could easily be abused
@@morgs5118Harbours is a castle age upgrade. The Malay Imp upgrade is the militia line cost no gold.
@@morgs5118stone cost was exactly my thoughts even if it's only 25-50
6 range max, not impacted by blacksmith, one arrow unless vils, outranged by mango. It's like a weaker TC that you can't drop res in.
It'll be useful in certain situations but probably not game breaking. I feel like it would be hell for enemies in monk/siege meta, safe monk garrison, BUT no atonement, can't convert enemy monks, so.. what monk push?
@@morgs5118 As Harbours don't cost stone, they were nerfed and now they do a lot less damage against ground units.
Fortified Church: "I am a solid building made of stone".
How much do you cost?
"200 Wood".
Gotta to love AoE logic
Building donkey with hammer is on par with that
Fortified churches should have a stone cost, otherwise too easy to spam.
Why would you spam fortified churches. I get building one near the eco of your ennemy but spamming it? Empty fortified churches don't shoot.
damage reduction for elevations will make some nice viper signature castles on hills with this civ
Georgians are a great addition to the game.
Mule cart is actually an age of mithology feature, used by nordic civilizations.
I like how devs are taking interesting features from AoM and AoE 3/4 to implements them into AoE II
Great video Viper and editor! Clean and easy to follow
Can you use the mule as a blocker for units? I imagine that is how the hussite wagon was supposed to be used but if it costs no pop, what's preventing someone from going into HC or armenian UU, surrounded by them? I don't think it would be like battering rams between units and getting archer agro as they have a lower target priority as a building, they'd just wreck melee unit pathing
With no limit on how many can exist at any given time... Michi games are going to be funny
Fortress Building made entirely of stone. Cost: 200 wood
yeah I think any form of raids (especially from ranged units) will fail miserably against this civ in the late game
@@dejuren1367i don't think so - each dlc always comes out with OP civs to drum up chatter, controversy, and thus interest. the first patch almost always fixes the issue a week or three into release.
They need to add a 50 stone cost to the building maybe, a building that shoot arrows and cost only wood sounds broken
Cant wait for all the wood only trushes
You can't upgrade the range of the Fortified Church, it will always have 6 range. Late-game archers won't have issues other than the fact it takes a long time to destroy the building without siege, and since it's cheap the Georgian/Armenian player can just build 20 of them and delay your push for ever.
Betting on a hotfix for stone, that's just too broken
Lovely! The only thing remaining to complete my happiness, is to see the mango-delete trick return back!
Armenians Overview: ruclips.net/video/8GGo2XnzPoM/видео.html
And the new Persians overview: ruclips.net/video/FxtpEkAWGss/видео.html
Viper, after fishing, if i build the cart, will it drop the food like other similar cases?
Don't forget the changes on kther civs
I will do a patch overview once the DLC is launched with the new patch, in case they change anything. @@frankieseward8667
These new civ overview videos are very well done, with great pacing, editing, music, and content. Thanks for the quality uploads!
Still waiting on the persians overview
Reduced damage paired with healing cav seem pretty broken. Those monasteries giving +10% work rate means their eco will be pretty insane. If you don't do significant damage to this civ in Feudal, you'll have a hard time defeating them later on.
Remember, the reduced damage is pretty situational. Otherwise their cavalry play doesn't seem that different from, say, Khmer. Or Slavs, who are getting their farm bonus back to 15%.
Really cool addition!
sounds like you just need to play defensive in enemy's base xD
Fantastic video! 😮
Great vid vipi
Such a great video!
I can see a fortified monastery rush, just everyone on wood and slowly choke your opponent by surrounding him
Surrounding him with fortified churches?... Sure... you'll need a lot of villagers to fill those churches though. Empty fortified churches don't shoot.
@@-Zakhiel- ah my bad
Great video viper
I'm hype for the campaign!
As a defensive civ fan such as byzantines and teutons, I am so excited for this civ!
I like this format!
I think the mobile cart drop off will make being tower rush harder. You can adjust the position of the cart after your opponent has dropped their tower to enable you to still collect the resource. It might make them feel as though they need to drop the tower closer and therefore more likely that you'll see them building it.
I think you and Spirit of the Law have the best quality of videos around new dlc
Does this mean woodlines and gold/stone mines are now more exposed? Now you cannot quick palisade using the camps as a high hp anchor point to continue wood and gold collecting in peace
tc drop with repair bonus will be fun
I foresee these fortified monasteries being built as walls or used for quickwalling. The cost is too low and the benefits are very large
The mule, It makes sense to include this unit in the Mongol civilization due to their nomadic nature. I hope that in the future, it will be added as an expansion to the Mongols :)
I think Georgians are my new fav civ
After watching both videos on the new civs the first thing that comes to mind is having both civs on the same team in tgs
"Don't forget to leave a LIKE!!...ohh let's not use that one..." So relatable XD. I love that you include stuff like that.
amazing !! brokenn
New meta: fortified monastery rush on arena
They're going to be insane in treb wars
I see diving for the kill on mule carts happening often
I think the fortified churches are super strong. Especially for dropping them forward, only costing wood. And even for raid defense.
I think a siege monk push with them would be super good.
Hear me out i think this civ will actually have insane scout rush. The fact that their scouts heals makes them insane to deal with add to that them all ready having a wood mill, that means 1 vil on wood will be enough to click fedual at like 16 vills. Now ur in fedual u have scouts that can heal that can be insane.
You can actually garrison your mule cart in TC.
Villagers build a cart with a living cow attached with hammer, food and wood.
These civ clearly knows alchemist.
Love U Viper
I think from initial reaction that people are sleeping on Georgia
We often see games won and lost by who wins the hills and who can raid the opponent to death.
When you combine towers in your base with insane eco boosts with hills that are hard to break. Plus regenerating hussars.
All those things are huge winning conditions. Plus great siege to win those hills.
It will be interesting to see how people will play the civ in late game. You can almost justify raiding vs defending your home because the monataries give your protection both in garrison space and attack plus time to hit them before they hit you.
I can’t imagine most Georgia opponents choosing to raid them with defenses anywhere vs defend their own base. Which is a win for Georgia by itself.
I see the UU being very strong for the purpose it serves. It will be the main unit to find military whereas the stables will be used for raiding units.
1. Eco boost comes later in game and needs planing, which makes it more complex
2. Early game eco is shit and for non pro players it will be hard to produce villagers
3. Your opponent knows you will go for cavalry cause you don’t have many options so you will be countered
4. Every map with water/lakes will be shit for georgians
5. With bad early game eco and No bombard cannon means you will struggle to defend castles against fast trebu push
As viper said it has no real strong one unit or buff but a synergy, which makes them pretty shit at attacking forcing to lose map control and be defensive booming until late game push. In rts having map control is great.
I am more scared of warrior priest with 125 hp cavalry speed and healing faster than priest, any relic dependent map will be auto win for armenians+ free relic …
Castle graphics look great; 10/10!
Looks like fun civ
duuuude you look fresh! keep it going. what a man.
Will be funny to see some church behind ennemy woodlines 😅
The arena civ ! for 4v4 team game
feel like the potential on only wood towers is high. Towerrushing itself is strong bc 200w tower, which covers more area (same range, more area) is strong, but what i like to see is using it to build much mapcontrol with 1 cart, few vills and unlimited towers. stacking them in endgame seems stupid :D
Im sure Fort monastery will have a stone cost in the future
Your editor is top
They do not seem to have any weakness after feudal age, so they might be op, or at least very strong
I feel like they might be kinda similar to Spanish, great in low elo but once people get a bit better, they are underwhelming.
Like they have a lot of great defensive techs and buildings, but that means you are *teching into* defense. All the resources spent and buildings built are not pushing the enemy, and higher elo will punish that.
Compare that to Koreans who are great at defense because they SAVE resources, which allows them to push a bit harder on the front while still getting good defense.
And they don't have a killer unit to push with. Sure cav regens but in a stand up fight cavalier get shredded by halb and take a lot more damage from arbs. The unique cav if elite is paladin-adjacent but you need castles to mass and tons of upgrades.
I feel like their best bet would be monk/siege, BUT no atonement, no counter to enemy monks with atonement, so you lose monk v. monk.
I dunno, interesting but maybe not OP.
Gotta love the RUclips -snake teacher- voice 😎
I hope next DLC they break the Italians into Venetians, Genoese, Milanese and Naples, would make more historical sense and be cool asf. Savoy, Papal States or Florentians are cool candidates too.
Imagine how op the monks from the Papal States would be.
I only understand some things in English but everything was wonderful🙌🏼🙌🏼 thanks viper
Mule are a big weakness. You destroy them like a bunch of vil
OP AF
Hey Viper, thanks for the 5 month
Won’t need to continually build lumber camps and stuff too
ist this the civ I dreamed for years? ...
If they get the high ground on amazonas tunnel they are going to be a pain in the a.. XD
Good video.
Finally a civ that will steamroll relic nothing games. Seriously though I laughed so hard when you said relic gave projectiles to their churches.
I already love the fortified church, though I think it will be nerfed heavily since it sounds too strong.
Wow, my country got added into my favorite RTS game. I don't even know what to say, I'm waiting for its release so that I can try it out first hand. I've been away so I'll try not to spoil myself, I assume this is a beta version of the civ? Anyhow, the fortress looks amazing, we have one like that. The watch towers (I think?) look like the ones that our monks live in, you have to climb really high up, we don't have many towers like those, we always had fortresses on top of hills and mountains. The flag is our current one, nothing like the old original one, looks awkward tbh :D but at least it has crosses, Georgians have always associated themselves with Christian crosses and what not, it was their moving force (their belief) in combat and many other real life related occasions.
The biggest part that I'm curious about is the voicelines, idk which Georgian they'll use for it. We don't have a lot of voice actors (or any at all) that speak fluent old Georgian.
Also, the walls look a lot like our old walls. I'm glad Georgians were introduced as cav, or at least as a melee civ. Georgians were known for being strong melee fighters, not so much of a cav-driven nation, but at least we're melee civ in Aoe2 :)
The highground bonus, man, this is amazing, really real-life copy paste of how Georgians fought. I think this is the most realistic bonus of Georgians since Georgians used to defend real-life attacks on their fortresses from the highground, we had/have our fortresses on highgrounds after all.
The fortified church is... interesting. We'd never in our life fight in/from church as far as I understand our history. But being able to garrison villages and monks inside is really realistic. Even to this day you might see church protecting certain citizens and church usually overrules the government, but it doesn't have as much influence in real life today cause of obvious reasons, but it had all the influence before. We do have churches everywhere tho. I think I'm fine with this building treated as a tower or a light fortress.
I love Svan towers. That's one of the highest mountainous places in our country, it's an important place. I love that they named the towers after that part of the country.
I'm glad they chose Monaspa as our special units. They were the King's personal special force type of warriors, created from multiple people with various beliefs with various backgrounds, slaves, mercenaries, warriors, exiled etc. I love that in Aoe2 they gave them (or any unit really. doesn't matter) a bonus where if they stand together, they grow stronger. That's how it was, that's how it still is atm irl. I don't know how it really translates into English, but the phrase goes something like: "Together we stand strong". Or at least that's the message of it.
Thanks for reviewing Georgians :)
Now that the civ has been out for a while, what do you think of it? Did it live up to your expectations?
Also, what do you think of the fact that they and the Armenians use the Mediterranean architecture style?
These church fortress are gonna be so OP ...
Seems like a good donjon rush counter
@@rondeezy_thepancakeslayer1242no, that looks like a stronger dungeon rush. Like waaaaay better.
@@LoutreDuBengaleno because they have minimum range and they don’t attack unless villagers are inside
It's weird so many people are worried about the Fortified Church. They are expensive and need expensive units added to actually fire arrows. They don't even have murder holes like TCs do.
A great building but I don't believe FC into FC rush will be a problem
Do you need redemption to convert mule carts?
uphill bônus makes their skirmishers pretty tanky
Very nice civ
Fortified churches - standard OP of the transylvanian saxons - maybe a future civ? :O
Ta' bien.
wont the mule carts be very vulnerable to raids?
So official 😂❤
Camera angle was too high
ii wanna see georgians on RAGE FOREST
Does the mule cart count as population?
amateure question: If you garrison a monk in a castle, do they add extra projectile?
No. And they don't add arrows to the fortified churches either.
We're going to meet another era of tower rush, I'm scared.
tower rushes were ever scary since DE?
I believe mule carts shouldn’t be exclusive for new civ. Nomadic civs also need to get access to them.
Hey, i'm a casual Aoe2 player but i've known and played the game since i was 7. I think that all the new civilizations recently introduced had a "personalized" meccanic that made them really interesting to play, leaving the OG ones a bit "behind" on that regard. Do you think that the Persian rework is a step towards adding "new flavour" to all those civilizations that have been in the game for a while?
Probably not. Persians specifically have suffered for a while from being underpowered outside of a few specific hybrid maps. Civs like Chinese, Britons, Franks, Byzantines, Turks and Mongols are strong on a wide variety of different maps.
@@teddyhaines6613 i'm not really talking about strength in game, but just adding something that makes each civ a bit more unique. Tbh, that could be also just some kind of new texture
I just missed more opinions from you :(
I love the Georgians on paper and they are the biggest draw for me in this dlc
I feel like the fortified church, while a very cool and interesting addition, is doing way too much for its cost of 200 wood. It has the same health and range as a TC, I think it'd be fair if it cost 25-50 stone in addition to the wood cost. It would be more thematic as well, seeing as the model has extensive stone fortifications.
Seems like a Vipi civ fer sure...
its cool that they are pumping out new and interesting civs and making them powerful for people to get them but i am worried about the original civs getting way too power creeped.
also georgians have a lot of defensive bonuses why give them cavalry bonus? wouldnt that power be more fitting in a steppe-culture? some things are not fitting well thematically.
Great video, you are a very good salesman 😂 better than Microsoft to make you purchase the new civs, and the love for the game is so apparent. Waiting for some mastapieces with the new badboys.
very cool, but im just happy to see my persians get some love
My countryy lets gooo
Yo what's up with the trend of cavalry civs having no paladins but rely on some weird quirks on their cavs to justify the categorization?
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I’m from Georgia )) everything is great and close to militry history of Georgia but i think it should have some unique infant unit cause i think cavalry was not strength of Georgia
You got that right. The Armenians and Georgians have completely backwards specialties, with the Georgians being good with cavalry and siege and the Armenians being good with infantry. They should be swapped. The Armenians also get a Khevsur warrior as a UU, which is super egregious, and even worse is their naval specialty, which never existed for them, considering they were landlocked for most of their history. This whole DLC is a mess historically, even though it is fun.
2 civ?
Do they get the warrior priests too?
Just regular monks. Warrior priest is a unique unit for the Armenians.
Hey Viper, the "e" in Georgians is silent, it's only there so you pronounce the "g" like the "j" in "jungle" and not like the "g" in "gorge"
it doesnt matter since georgians dont calll their country georgia or anything near to that...:D