In 1940 Time magazine quoted Albert Einstein praising the Catholic Church for its role in opposing the Nazis: "Only the Church stood squarely across the path of Hitler's campaign for suppressing truth. I never had any special interest in the Church before, but now I feel a great affection and admiration because the Church alone has had the courage and persistence to stand for intellectual truth and moral freedom. I am forced thus to confess that what I once despised I now praise unreservedly."
Hä. Eine Kirche wo diejenigen Kirchenmitglieder der Kirche waren die dies alles durch ihre Mitglieder geschehen ließ? Die, die die Mitschuld an über 100 000000 Millionen tote Menschen mit verursacht haben, und die sogar in den Kriegen bis heute ihre eigenen Glaubensbrüder getötet haben?
There was one German arch bishop who used his position and his orders to help refugees escape the Germans to help the Germans escape the allies at the end of the war. He was able to do so because operation paperclip was important to the US and while he got our Germans through he also secretly helped nazis escape that were not a part of paperclip. There was no Papal policy to assist war criminals that we did not specifically ask for in The US. This arch bishop used our program as a cover to do his own thing and Pius XII didn't know about it though we did but couldn't say anything without revealing paperclip which was above even the Presidents security clearance.
An abundance of very interesting points. With so many documents to go through I won't be surprised if this is not settled before I die. It does make you think about even small gestures that can make such a diffence in another's life.
Einstein's perspective: ""Never in history has violence been so widespread as in Nazi Germany. The concentration camps make the actions of Genghis Khan look like child's play. But what makes me shudder is that the Church is silent. One doesn't need to be a prophet to say, 'The Catholic Church will pay for this silence.' .. you will live to see that there is moral law in the universe. . . .There are cosmic laws, They cannot be bribed by prayers or incense. " (from "Einstein and the Poet", verified on Wikiquote)
Elie Wiesel was quite well known by the 1970s, so that his voice on matters concerning abuses of human rights would have been given much attention in the international media already at that time. But in the late 1970s, as information was reaching via refugee camps in Thailand about the horrendous genocide that was being perpetrated by the Khmer Rouge and petitions were being circulated among world figures (writers, scholars etc.) calling attention to the slaughters, ELIE WIESEL CHOSE TO REMAIN SILENT and not put his signature onto any of the petitions or to make a public statement of his own. Only later in the late 1980s after the making of the movie "Killing Fields" did he finally issue a statement for world leaders “to explore the tragedy in all of its aspects" trying to hide under the rug his many years of silence (which he succeeded as can be seen in the 2018 law directing our government to be active in preventing and responding to atrocities was profanely designated in his name). The author of the book that led to the film Killing Fields, Sydney Schanberg, himself was silent about the genocide, after having described it as a "peasant/agrarian revolution remaking Cambodian society in the peasant image" until his Cambodian journalist friend escaped out of Cambodia. These things cannot be forgotten and the constant spotlighting on others who showed weak responses to the Holocaust while so many Jews in the West served as apologists to Soviet atrocities needs to be rectified by calling on the later also to a moral reckoning.
Church cultivated antisemitism historically and taught it among its members. This antisemitism flowed to present days. Of course we cannot present opinions of catholic priests because these will justify the action of Church. It is as if we ask Torquemada whether tortures he applied during the Spanish Inquisition were right.
No the Church was keen to convert anyone to Catholicism and did not want to bother to understand the Jewish faith -- that is NOT anti Semitism.... btw As soon as Hitler got in power he started to remove the rights of both Catholics and Lutherans. The 1933 Concordat was an attempt by the Vatican to give some legal protection to German Catholics, but Hitler simply ignored all the Church’s protests at Nazi violations of the agreement. By 1935 the religious orders had been expelled from all their school teaching posts, their schools taken over, and Goebbels devised a horrible propaganda campaign against monks and nuns alleging widespread corruption of German youth. All Catholic newspapers had been closed down or put under Nazi editorship. All Catholic youth movements had been taken over. Membership in the Hitler Youth became compulsory. The Nazis hated both Catholic and Lutheran churches because they offered a different view of life to the Third Reich’s totalitarian ideology. They managed to take over the Lutheran Church more, because it lacked the international weight of the Catholic Church, although the members of the Confessing Church made a brave anti-Nazi stand. Gestapo monitored church sermons. Priests who criticised the regime were arrested and sent for “re-education” in concentration camps. When in 1938 Pope Pius XI wrote the Encyclical Mit brennender Sorge, condemning Nazism and its race theories, to be read in every Catholic Church in Germany on Palm Sunday, the Nazis tried to intercept and destroy every copy, and arrested all the priests who did read it to their congregations. Of the 2900 clergy imprisoned in Dachau, 2720 were Catholic priests, of whom 990 died there due to cruel treatment. Is all this what you call “protecting the Church?” It was Hitler’s long term intention, after exterminating the Jews and winning the war, to eliminate the Catholic Church as well. After the War a handful of rogue pro-Nazi clergy helped some Nazis to escape to South America on false documents. This was never done by any official Church or Vatican body, and was totally against the will of Pope Pius XII, who was thoroughly anti-Nazi. (Thanks to XX)
Jews lived peacefully among Catholics for 2000 years in Europe but suddenly the Vatican wanted them exterminated??? The truth is that the church always helped them and gave them asylum in their countries but their radicalism always inclined them to attack Catholicism for always reminding them that they killed their own messiah.
@@yebobaba Yes the Vatican supported Hitler and Moussileni. They also smuggled many Nazi war criminals out of Europe and into safe havens in South America. At the end of the war. Read church history that was not written by the catholic church.
I'm so glad that you've joined with the Holocaust Memorial museum and I know many good Catholics today would fight against injustices such as Antisemitism, but sadly the church hierarchy of the time (1930s-40s) has a lot to answer for, before during and especially after the war. But I'm proud of you for tackling this issue, sometimes our own communities (Or one's own church) must be shown tough love by speaking truth to power, because deep down this is a stronger display of faith than blind loyalty which doesn't question history.
This is not true though! Pius XI and Pius XII have spoken out on many occasions! See for example the encyclical “Mit Brennender Sorge”. Pius XII helped the Jews of Rome so much that the head rabbi of Rome converted to Christianity and took his name as his baptismal name (look up Eugenio Zolli). Also the reason that for example Edith Stein was deported was that the clergy in the Netherlands spoke out against Jewish persecution by nazis, for example cardinal De Jong and Titus Brandsma. Please look these things up! And of course this doesn’t mean that no Catholic person has done evil things in WOII but you saying the popes and clergy of 30-40 have a lot to explain is simply (and thankfully!) not true. God bless ❤
@@MissHoneyKitchen “It seems remarkable in retrospect that Pius XII ever thought he could come to terms with Hitler. Days after the pope’s coronation in 1939, the German dictator showed the world how much the Munich Pact meant to him when he invaded Czechoslovakia and incorporated it into the Reich. Yet Pius XII, hesitant and often out of touch with hard realities, believed he could negotiate with a man he perceived as a needed bulwark against communism. The fate of Europe’s Jews never entered into his thinking. It is disturbing to read of the new pope’s decision to shelve the encyclical attacking racism and antisemitism that his predecessor, Pius XI, had planned to release the day before his death, and of his warm birthday greetings to the Führer in April 1939, six months after the horror of Kristallnacht. These and other sorry facts have long been known, though. Truly shocking is Kertzer’s discovery in the archives of an account of a secret meeting between the pope and a representative of the Reich, King Victor Emmanuel’s German son-in-law, only weeks before the invasion of Poland. The Vatican has carefully kept all mention of this meeting out of the official record, and only with the 2020 opening of those files has it come to light.” WP
@@KenRobertyou said Jews didn't factor in the thinking of Pius XII. While still the cardinal secretary of state he worked to get Jews out of Nazi Germany immediately after kristallnacht. During the Nazi occupation of Italy he gave sanctuary to Jews at castle gandolfo and he also ordered monasteries and convents in Italy to take it Jewish refugees to save their lives. On the issue of racism Pius XII's encyclical Summi Pontificatus explicitly stated 'neither gentile not Jew,' while also clearly coming down on the side of Poland. That was why the RAF dropped copies of it over Germany and why Nazi Germany restricted it. On the issue of conciliatory messages to Hitler after Pius XII's coronation, an event which Germany boycotted by the way let's examine the reasons why. During the 19th century Germany was involved in a bitter dispute with the catholic church when Bismarck was in power. It was called the kulturkampf. When Leo XIII became pope in 1878 he sent Bismarck a conciliatory message. That actually led to improved relations between church and state. The church was hoping for a repeat. As for the church having a lot to answer for it did publish encyclicals condemning fascism, national socialism and communism during the 1930s, so much for the church having a lot to answer for.
To the Catholic priest. How is the book of John offensive or opposing to Christ. Scripture says as a man speaks in his heart so is he. And the black death happened in Europe among the Catholics but you already knew that.
@Σπύρος There is nothing complicated about scripture and a person does not need a degree to figure it out. And to suggest the Catholics are not Heretics and everyone else is makes you quite the comedian. And as disappointing as it may sound the great prophets and the disciples and even Jesus were not talking about the Catholic church or Catholic nuns or Catholic priests or the Vatican or that pope guy.
@Lana yumako I John 2:27 refutes your understanding. We only need the Spirit of the Father to guide us into ALL truth. No man is needed. You must work out your own salvation. Not the personal interpretation of another man.
I don't know who you're talking about, but I don't doubt it. Hiter had been seen by many people to be a sort of a moral cleansing in Germany. obviously this was said long before the horrors of the Holocaust were brought to light.
@@wednesdayschild3627 Yes, there were many good priests and lay catholics who risked life and limb to help Jews. They followed their conscience DESPITE catholic church teaching, policy, and tradition!!!!
Thank you so much for sharing with me an horrendous fragment of the shameful history of the Hitler's infamous Nazi regime. The crimes and cruelties committed against my sons and daughters, my fathers and mothers, my brothers and sisters hurt me deeply, regardless their ethnicity and nationality. In Isaiah 2: 4, Jehovah God, the Creator and Source of life, Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, promises: "He will be judge among the nations and will settle matters in relation to many peoples. They will turn their swords into plowshares and their spears into pruning shears. The nations will no longer raise their swords against each other and learn no more to wage war." My immediate neighbors are Jews and I am a Jehovah's Witness. Their hearts are superior than pure gold by far. They are extremely kind. The gentleman takes care of my trash can every Wednesday without my asking him to do so. They are lovely human beings, and they are not in need of the smallest improvement.
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In 1940 Time magazine quoted Albert Einstein praising the Catholic Church for its role in opposing the Nazis: "Only the Church stood squarely across the path of Hitler's campaign for suppressing truth. I never had any special interest in the Church before, but now I feel a great affection and admiration because the Church alone has had the courage and persistence to stand for intellectual truth and moral freedom. I am forced thus to confess that what I once despised I now praise unreservedly."
Hä. Eine Kirche wo diejenigen Kirchenmitglieder der Kirche waren die dies alles durch ihre Mitglieder geschehen ließ?
Die, die die Mitschuld an über 100 000000 Millionen tote Menschen mit verursacht haben, und die sogar in den Kriegen bis heute ihre eigenen Glaubensbrüder getötet haben?
There was one German arch bishop who used his position and his orders to help refugees escape the Germans to help the Germans escape the allies at the end of the war. He was able to do so because operation paperclip was important to the US and while he got our Germans through he also secretly helped nazis escape that were not a part of paperclip.
There was no Papal policy to assist war criminals that we did not specifically ask for in The US. This arch bishop used our program as a cover to do his own thing and Pius XII didn't know about it though we did but couldn't say anything without revealing paperclip which was above even the Presidents security clearance.
An abundance of very interesting points. With so many documents to go through I won't be surprised if this is not settled before I die. It does make you think about even small gestures that can make such a diffence in another's life.
Einstein's perspective: ""Never in history has violence been so widespread as in Nazi Germany. The concentration camps make the actions of Genghis Khan look like child's play. But what makes me shudder is that the Church is silent. One doesn't need to be a prophet to say, 'The Catholic Church will pay for this silence.' .. you will live to see that there is moral law in the universe. . . .There are cosmic laws, They cannot be bribed by prayers or incense. " (from "Einstein and the Poet", verified on Wikiquote)
Elie Wiesel was quite well known by the 1970s, so that his voice on matters concerning abuses of human rights would have been given much attention in the international media already at that time. But in the late 1970s, as information was reaching via refugee camps in Thailand about the horrendous genocide that was being perpetrated by the Khmer Rouge and petitions were being circulated among world figures (writers, scholars etc.) calling attention to the slaughters, ELIE WIESEL CHOSE TO REMAIN SILENT and not put his signature onto any of the petitions or to make a public statement of his own. Only later in the late 1980s after the making of the movie "Killing Fields" did he finally issue a statement for world leaders “to explore the tragedy in all of its aspects" trying to hide under the rug his many years of silence (which he succeeded as can be seen in the 2018 law directing our government to be active in preventing and responding to atrocities was profanely designated in his name).
The author of the book that led to the film Killing Fields, Sydney Schanberg, himself was silent about the genocide, after having described it as a "peasant/agrarian revolution remaking Cambodian society in the peasant image" until his Cambodian journalist friend escaped out of Cambodia. These things cannot be forgotten and the constant spotlighting on others who showed weak responses to the Holocaust while so many Jews in the West served as apologists to Soviet atrocities needs to be rectified by calling on the later also to a moral reckoning.
Church cultivated antisemitism historically and taught it among its members. This antisemitism flowed to present days. Of course we cannot present opinions of catholic priests because these will justify the action of Church. It is as if we ask Torquemada whether tortures he applied during the Spanish Inquisition were right.
What about Judaism cultivating extreme anti-christianism? What does the Talmud say about Jesus?
@@michakowalski3234 This do NOT justify any violence.
No the Church was keen to convert anyone to Catholicism and did not want to bother to understand the Jewish faith -- that is NOT anti Semitism.... btw As soon as Hitler got in power he started to remove the rights of both Catholics and Lutherans. The 1933 Concordat was an attempt by the Vatican to give some legal protection to German Catholics, but Hitler simply ignored all the Church’s protests at Nazi violations of the agreement.
By 1935 the religious orders had been expelled from all their school teaching posts, their schools taken over, and Goebbels devised a horrible propaganda campaign against monks and nuns alleging widespread corruption of German youth.
All Catholic newspapers had been closed down or put under Nazi editorship. All Catholic youth movements had been taken over. Membership in the Hitler Youth became compulsory.
The Nazis hated both Catholic and Lutheran churches because they offered a different view of life to the Third Reich’s totalitarian ideology. They managed to take over the Lutheran Church more, because it lacked the international weight of the Catholic Church, although the members of the Confessing Church made a brave anti-Nazi stand.
Gestapo monitored church sermons. Priests who criticised the regime were arrested and sent for “re-education” in concentration camps.
When in 1938 Pope Pius XI wrote the Encyclical Mit brennender Sorge, condemning Nazism and its race theories, to be read in every Catholic Church in Germany on Palm Sunday, the Nazis tried to intercept and destroy every copy, and arrested all the priests who did read it to their congregations.
Of the 2900 clergy imprisoned in Dachau, 2720 were Catholic priests, of whom 990 died there due to cruel treatment.
Is all this what you call “protecting the Church?” It was Hitler’s long term intention, after exterminating the Jews and winning the war, to eliminate the Catholic Church as well.
After the War a handful of rogue pro-Nazi clergy helped some Nazis to escape to South America on false documents. This was never done by any official Church or Vatican body, and was totally against the will of Pope Pius XII, who was thoroughly anti-Nazi. (Thanks to XX)
Jews lived peacefully among Catholics for 2000 years in Europe but suddenly the Vatican wanted them exterminated??? The truth is that the church always helped them and gave them asylum in their countries but their radicalism always inclined them to attack Catholicism for always reminding them that they killed their own messiah.
@@yebobaba Yes the Vatican supported Hitler and Moussileni. They also smuggled many Nazi war criminals out of Europe and into safe havens in South America. At the end of the war. Read church history that was not written by the catholic church.
I'm so glad that you've joined with the Holocaust Memorial museum and I know many good Catholics today would fight against injustices such as Antisemitism, but sadly the church hierarchy of the time (1930s-40s) has a lot to answer for, before during and especially after the war.
But I'm proud of you for tackling this issue, sometimes our own communities (Or one's own church) must be shown tough love by speaking truth to power, because deep down this is a stronger display of faith than blind loyalty which doesn't question history.
This is not true though! Pius XI and Pius XII have spoken out on many occasions! See for example the encyclical “Mit Brennender Sorge”. Pius XII helped the Jews of Rome so much that the head rabbi of Rome converted to Christianity and took his name as his baptismal name (look up Eugenio Zolli). Also the reason that for example Edith Stein was deported was that the clergy in the Netherlands spoke out against Jewish persecution by nazis, for example cardinal De Jong and Titus Brandsma. Please look these things up! And of course this doesn’t mean that no Catholic person has done evil things in WOII but you saying the popes and clergy of 30-40 have a lot to explain is simply (and thankfully!) not true. God bless ❤
@@MissHoneyKitchen “It seems remarkable in retrospect that Pius XII ever thought he could come to terms with Hitler. Days after the pope’s coronation in 1939, the German dictator showed the world how much the Munich Pact meant to him when he invaded Czechoslovakia and incorporated it into the Reich. Yet Pius XII, hesitant and often out of touch with hard realities, believed he could negotiate with a man he perceived as a needed bulwark against communism. The fate of Europe’s Jews never entered into his thinking.
It is disturbing to read of the new pope’s decision to shelve the encyclical attacking racism and antisemitism that his predecessor, Pius XI, had planned to release the day before his death, and of his warm birthday greetings to the Führer in April 1939, six months after the horror of Kristallnacht. These and other sorry facts have long been known, though.
Truly shocking is Kertzer’s discovery in the archives of an account of a secret meeting between the pope and a representative of the Reich, King Victor Emmanuel’s German son-in-law, only weeks before the invasion of Poland. The Vatican has carefully kept all mention of this meeting out of the official record, and only with the 2020 opening of those files has it come to light.” WP
@@KenRobertyou said Jews didn't factor in the thinking of Pius XII. While still the cardinal secretary of state he worked to get Jews out of Nazi Germany immediately after kristallnacht. During the Nazi occupation of Italy he gave sanctuary to Jews at castle gandolfo and he also ordered monasteries and convents in Italy to take it Jewish refugees to save their lives. On the issue of racism Pius XII's encyclical Summi Pontificatus explicitly stated 'neither gentile not Jew,' while also clearly coming down on the side of Poland. That was why the RAF dropped copies of it over Germany and why Nazi Germany restricted it. On the issue of conciliatory messages to Hitler after Pius XII's coronation, an event which Germany boycotted by the way let's examine the reasons why. During the 19th century Germany was involved in a bitter dispute with the catholic church when Bismarck was in power. It was called the kulturkampf. When Leo XIII became pope in 1878 he sent Bismarck a conciliatory message. That actually led to improved relations between church and state. The church was hoping for a repeat. As for the church having a lot to answer for it did publish encyclicals condemning fascism, national socialism and communism during the 1930s, so much for the church having a lot to answer for.
To the Catholic priest. How is the book of John offensive or opposing to Christ. Scripture says as a man speaks in his heart so is he. And the black death happened in Europe among the Catholics but you already knew that.
@Σπύρος There is nothing complicated about scripture and a person does not need a degree to figure it out. And to suggest the Catholics are not Heretics and everyone else is makes you quite the comedian. And as disappointing as it may sound the great prophets and the disciples and even Jesus were not talking about the Catholic church or Catholic nuns or Catholic priests or the Vatican or that pope guy.
Do unto others as you would have them do unto you.
Amen
@Lana yumako I John 2:27 refutes your understanding. We only need the Spirit of the Father to guide us into ALL truth. No man is needed. You must work out your own salvation. Not the personal interpretation of another man.
@Lana yumako The OT clearly states that Israel is and always will be the firstborn son of God. The Son of promise.. You are confused..
@@michelleayres5608 Not biblical
Who was the Catholic Clergyman that said Hitler was God's gift to Catholics?
I don't know who you're talking about, but I don't doubt it. Hiter had been seen by many people to be a sort of a moral cleansing in Germany. obviously this was said long before the horrors of the Holocaust were brought to light.
What about Maxmilian Kolbe who sacrificed himself for his fellow prisoner? What about Deitrich Bonhoffer?
@@wednesdayschild3627 Bonhoffer was a Lutheran.
@@wednesdayschild3627 Yes, there were many good priests and lay catholics who risked life and limb to help Jews. They followed their conscience DESPITE catholic church teaching, policy, and tradition!!!!
I have no idea, you tell
Thank you so much for sharing with me an horrendous fragment of the shameful history of the Hitler's infamous Nazi regime.
The crimes and cruelties committed against my sons and daughters, my fathers and mothers, my brothers and sisters hurt me deeply, regardless their ethnicity and nationality.
In Isaiah 2: 4, Jehovah God, the Creator and Source of life, Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, promises:
"He will be judge among the nations and will settle matters in relation to many peoples. They will turn their swords into plowshares and their spears into pruning shears. The nations will no longer raise their swords against each other and learn no more to wage war."
My immediate neighbors are Jews and I am a Jehovah's Witness.
Their hearts are superior than pure gold by far. They are extremely kind.
The gentleman takes care of my trash can every Wednesday without my asking him to do so. They are lovely human beings, and they are not in need of the smallest improvement.