On Garen i prefer a phase rush rune, cause in teamfights it's much more usefull, and it makes hard matchups easier, cause u have nice tool to disengage. Or u can kill the enemy very fast and just run away before his teammates can catch you, like it was on 14:59 in this game, it's very good on splitpush too. But conqueror is very nice in easy matchups, and when enemy team have 2-3 melee champs. Actually Phase Rush or Conqueror depends of your playstile, for example i sometimes love to max my Q first and buying Bami's Cinder so i have Q movespeed, phys+mag AOE dmg, and i very easy procing phase rush (the same as with tiamat)
@@GarenStan u just need to learn how use it, and it will be even safer, cause u can do very short trades and run away. U just need to use Auto > Q > E, or Q > Tiamat > E. or u can buy bami's cinder and just do Q > E. but the last one is good only for laning, cause u will proc it instantly - sometimes when u don't need it - for example when u wan't just Q+E the enemy, then use ur Tiamat/Stridebreaker or ult and just run away with a phase rush. And think u should watch some good Garen players like Riste - he always explaining every move he did on his streams or in the videos
downside to garens passive is, that its completely useless in combat and doesnt provide any combat sustain that most other bruisers healing mechanics give. due to how he locks himself out of auto attacking during his spin, lifesteal is also not very good on him. so since physical vamp and omni vamp has been removed, garen simply doesnt have viable combat sustain mechanics. this is why a lot of other melee bruises beat him in extended trades. also because of his passive his early game trades are kindof tilted towards his opponents. he often is expected to lose lane trades because he can "just heal it up". in reality garens passive gets outperformed by other sustain mechanics like renekton q. by the time garens passive even activates, renekton hit an empowered q on the wave and healed a big chunk of health, while garen is just starting to heal up for example. his waveclear is indeed exceptional, but he needs something that sets him apart from other fighters and gives a team a reason to have a garen instead of any other bruiser.
Anti heal is good into matchups like Nasus, dr. mundo, Renekton, sylas, or really anyone that can heal a bunch or gain a bunch of bonus health to avoid Garen’s execute.
indeed garen wasnt made for long trades. However your analysis fails to consider that you dont need to be able to endure extended 1x1 fights to win lanes. With Garen I just Q + E, spending half the E near the silenced oponent and the other half getting out of range. After two or three Q+Es the opponent is usually low enough to be killed through flash+QE+ignite before lvl 6. Or QAAER
thr only weakness that annoys me in Garen is its uselessness against ranged champs, there's no gap closers in his set. So I just need to accept being bullied under my turret until lane phase ends
His passive kinda helps in a sense that his trade is his E which is almost an all in except he disengages with Q, most likely you both trade half health and you can heal back with passive
Is it still better to take stride breaker over tri force in melee matchups? I do tri force into melee matchups cause I always thought it had better stats since I don’t need the slow to gap close but idk
idk man. my perferred build is still stride, pd, into either steraks or into triforce. i dont see why you have to chose between stride and triforce in specific when these items both have different functions. it usually depends on enemy teamcomp and if im ahead in lane. do i need tenacity and anti-burst? then its steraks. am i ahead and snowballing and cc isnt a big deal? then triforce and steraks after.
@@Stone7C1 well there's 2 ways ive been trying depending on match up. the old tride builds work. But if you go Berzerkers, phantom, infinity edge you can snowball hard af
triforce very good for splitpush, but it's optional item and buy it or not - depends of your playstile, but for example Stridebreaker + PD deals more dmg and giving you more movespeed, but with triforce u deleting towers very fast. Or when the enemy team have a lot of melee champs u can buy Triforce + CDR boots + Blackcleaver + Spear of shojin + steraks and u will have very short CD on your Q and W which in some situations can be better than spin-spin-spin and u need use CDR runes with this build
@@Stone7C1 you have to chose because they are both one of the most expensive items in the game and having to build two stalls your strength as garen falls off hard late game because hes so weak against adc and control mages
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Play Renekton or Camille, always go for short trade and then disengage, don't let him hit you three times as that will activate his aura, sidestep his pull and hammer. Mordekaiser can't do anything against this.
Best Build ever on Garen ! Triforce ,phantom Dancer,Dead mans plate, bersekers, hull breaker and another situational item. Nobody will be able to catch you! For me works everytime
Voli is disgustingly underrated , he’s like Jax where even if hes losing you can still kill the enemy lol , if you learn how to W people properly , you can get them to half health then E , Q flash and W 2 will one shot people
Hey Davey, I really do appreciate how educational and exciting your videos can be. You showcase a champion so well and it makes me take up the champion to play for myself in my games. I always appreciate the quality content you put out 🫡
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On Garen i prefer a phase rush rune, cause in teamfights it's much more usefull, and it makes hard matchups easier, cause u have nice tool to disengage. Or u can kill the enemy very fast and just run away before his teammates can catch you, like it was on 14:59 in this game, it's very good on splitpush too. But conqueror is very nice in easy matchups, and when enemy team have 2-3 melee champs. Actually Phase Rush or Conqueror depends of your playstile, for example i sometimes love to max my Q first and buying Bami's Cinder so i have Q movespeed, phys+mag AOE dmg, and i very easy procing phase rush (the same as with tiamat)
I recently started the game and I don't have enough skill to use phase rush. I'd say conq is a safe option for noobs
@@GarenStan u just need to learn how use it, and it will be even safer, cause u can do very short trades and run away. U just need to use Auto > Q > E, or Q > Tiamat > E. or u can buy bami's cinder and just do Q > E. but the last one is good only for laning, cause u will proc it instantly - sometimes when u don't need it - for example when u wan't just Q+E the enemy, then use ur Tiamat/Stridebreaker or ult and just run away with a phase rush. And think u should watch some good Garen players like Riste - he always explaining every move he did on his streams or in the videos
downside to garens passive is, that its completely useless in combat and doesnt provide any combat sustain that most other bruisers healing mechanics give. due to how he locks himself out of auto attacking during his spin, lifesteal is also not very good on him. so since physical vamp and omni vamp has been removed, garen simply doesnt have viable combat sustain mechanics. this is why a lot of other melee bruises beat him in extended trades. also because of his passive his early game trades are kindof tilted towards his opponents. he often is expected to lose lane trades because he can "just heal it up".
in reality garens passive gets outperformed by other sustain mechanics like renekton q. by the time garens passive even activates, renekton hit an empowered q on the wave and healed a big chunk of health, while garen is just starting to heal up for example.
his waveclear is indeed exceptional, but he needs something that sets him apart from other fighters and gives a team a reason to have a garen instead of any other bruiser.
Anti heal is good into matchups like Nasus, dr. mundo, Renekton, sylas, or really anyone that can heal a bunch or gain a bunch of bonus health to avoid Garen’s execute.
@@elrond7887 kindof yes. against some champions is basically does nothing.
and it doesnt really prevent lane sustain like i mentioned.
indeed garen wasnt made for long trades. However your analysis fails to consider that you dont need to be able to endure extended 1x1 fights to win lanes. With Garen I just Q + E, spending half the E near the silenced oponent and the other half getting out of range. After two or three Q+Es the opponent is usually low enough to be killed through flash+QE+ignite before lvl 6. Or QAAER
thr only weakness that annoys me in Garen is its uselessness against ranged champs, there's no gap closers in his set. So I just need to accept being bullied under my turret until lane phase ends
His passive kinda helps in a sense that his trade is his E which is almost an all in except he disengages with Q, most likely you both trade half health and you can heal back with passive
Is it still better to take stride breaker over tri force in melee matchups? I do tri force into melee matchups cause I always thought it had better stats since I don’t need the slow to gap close but idk
idk man. my perferred build is still stride, pd, into either steraks or into triforce. i dont see why you have to chose between stride and triforce in specific when these items both have different functions. it usually depends on enemy teamcomp and if im ahead in lane. do i need tenacity and anti-burst? then its steraks. am i ahead and snowballing and cc isnt a big deal? then triforce and steraks after.
@@Stone7C1 well there's 2 ways ive been trying depending on match up. the old tride builds work. But if you go Berzerkers, phantom, infinity edge you can snowball hard af
triforce very good for splitpush, but it's optional item and buy it or not - depends of your playstile, but for example Stridebreaker + PD deals more dmg and giving you more movespeed, but with triforce u deleting towers very fast. Or when the enemy team have a lot of melee champs u can buy Triforce + CDR boots + Blackcleaver + Spear of shojin + steraks and u will have very short CD on your Q and W which in some situations can be better than spin-spin-spin and u need use CDR runes with this build
@@Stone7C1 you have to chose because they are both one of the most expensive items in the game and having to build two stalls your strength as garen falls off hard late game because hes so weak against adc and control mages
Does the new bleed applying crit item work work with garen’s E? If yes, please make a video with 100% crit chance item build with this item
I've watched a ton of your videos now including off meta and I suddenly realized what your voice reminds me of. You remind me of GothamChess. It's why I love your videos so much. The gameplay is fun. You're very informative and you sound like the very suave and handsome voice'd GothamChess
can you show the champion stats so we can keep up with what's happening. thanks
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On Daveyx's off meta channel
can you teach us how to counter mordekaiser in all roles
Play Renekton or Camille, always go for short trade and then disengage, don't let him hit you three times as that will activate his aura, sidestep his pull and hammer. Mordekaiser can't do anything against this.
If you can dodge Qs u win every fight, even if he ults
Best Build ever on Garen ! Triforce ,phantom Dancer,Dead mans plate, bersekers, hull breaker and another situational item. Nobody will be able to catch you! For me works everytime
I’m struggling with a main right now. I keep flipping between garen Darius and voli. In your opinion who is stronger
Voli is disgustingly underrated , he’s like Jax where even if hes losing you can still kill the enemy lol , if you learn how to W people properly , you can get them to half health then E , Q flash and W 2 will one shot people
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8:55 I hate Garen so much for his dumb skillset, that i've heard "dis ability" xDDDD
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Rule number one when you play garen : Stay around the corner
Garen top is for left hands people
In reality in most cases his passive is super useless. Instead of staying under the tower for a long time often b is just better.
by going b would't you lose a lot of farm and the opportunity to defend your tower by fighting under it if you have to heal?
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+1
nice
Bro, put your stats during the game… you show the runes but we want to see the stats!!!
Free drake lmaoooo
I'm truing hard to hold my self from unfollowing you cus of Garen .... but you played soo perfect ... and SOO ANNOYING :)
davey please play wild rift