Wow ... what a well organized, articulate, and instructive presentation! I'd begun DNA painting last night, just experimenting here and there. Now I feel much more confident about mapping, and better ready to pay attention to and to make use of all the various tools I hadn't noticed nor understood before. Thanks so much, Blaine! ... and kudos and thanks to Jonny Perl!
Thank you so much for this which got me up and running with this wonderful software within one evening. Thanks to you Blaine and to Jonny too of course! What a revolutionary tool!
Great starter video. Now that I have some matches painted, what next? It would be great to have a video (or series of them) that show how to read, interpret and get meaning from the painting!
I wish I would have seen this video a long time ago because I spent countless days and nights figuring out many of these concepts on my own! Thanks so much for clarifying some things for me. Awesome presentation, btw... excellent tips. I will certainly recommend it to friends! THANKS AGAIN
Thank you for putting this together Blaine. I'm curious on your thoughts if you are creating a profile for yourself if you add the segments for your parents and how you add them. It seems like it is not necessary to add parents and siblings.
"View and backup data" icon is now labeled "All segment data" ...and includes a link "Data backup file", which will save a .txt file ...as well as the other link to save a 'CSV file'.
Best thing I did using DNA Painter. Highly recommend, great if you have family to know the maternal or paternal. Have a bit of endogamy, but still great.
I have only one second cousin related to my Dad's mother. He did not know who his bio Dad was. I am new to genealogy and have no living relatives to ask any questions about his father. I have a couple of 3-4 cousins on his side but they match up to his mom. Does this mean that no one on his bio Dads family have not been tested? I tried to figure out DNA painter but was unable to figure it out. Thank you very much.
If you have verified that small segments as low a 3 cM's are valid through autosomal triangulation, will the total number of shared cM's at 3 cM's or larger still coincide with the M.R.C.A. between 2 cousins? In other words, will the tool that allows us to type in total number of shared cM's still highlight likely cousin relationships? Thank you so much for your work!
How will someone know which ancestors your DNA match and you share if both of your match and you have on your paternal grandfather and your paternal grandmother side of the family? Why I asked this question is because my cousin father is from one of my paternal grandfather side and cousin's mother is on one of the lines on my paternal grandmother side of my family tree.
This seems to work if you basically know the paternal side and maternal side. How do you figure it out if a parent/grandparent were adopted. I have done a Mirror Tree on Ancestry, I have figured out the possible family link on both sides, based on DNA and matches. Yet, I don't know which would be the paternal side, and which the maternal side. It seems from the DNA painter, I would just make it up, and then later possibly figure it out by waiting for more matches. Then assigning colors, it seems like from your illustration, for every person I am trying to match with, their "paternal/maternal" side would have different colors. Hence, if I am then looking at several DNA matches I may have several colors representing paternal, and several representing maternal. I think I would go bonkers the more I add to the painter.
I start from the beginning in DNA painter, it asks me to put my name and if I'm female. So I did that. My question is how do painter knows my DNA, to compare to the rest people I'm putting in there. Is there a way to put my own DNA in there so it can be compared to me?
I understand what you are doing with DNApainter - conceptually. I still don't understand how I get from GEDmatch to DNApainter ? You said that I wouldn'nt be uploading ALL of my DNA from GEDmatch to Painter ? Please explain ?
Does this not work on a Mac? I made three "Profiles" and they show just fine on the chromosomes, but I cannot view all three at once. I can only view them one at a time. I have put them in two groups, but only one group name shows in the "Key" at a time.
Val - it sounds to me as if you've created separate profiles where you intended to create separate groups. A profile is intended to correspond to a DNA kit - so one per DNA test. Ah - I see you emailed about this and this was indeed the issue!
I have a match with 390 cM and 4.15% on 23and me, problem he is adopted he also matches to my 2nd cousins who share same greatgrandparents with me would this means he share same greatgrandparents to us?
Is it true second cousins Lush are a great grandfather. This is something very important to me and I would like the accurate information on it if you could help me I would greatly appreciate it .
DNA Painter would be great if they didn't incorrectly name GRAND relatives. There is no such thing as a "great uncle" nor a "great great aunt". It is uncle, GRANDuncle, great GRANDuncle, 2nd great GRANDuncle, etc. We have GRANDParents, not greatparents. Hard to take a site seriously that has such terrible naming errors.
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In a word "UNBELIEVABLE" !! And to think that I've been doing all of this manually. It's a new world for me.
Wow ... what a well organized, articulate, and instructive presentation! I'd begun DNA painting last night, just experimenting here and there. Now I feel much more confident about mapping, and better ready to pay attention to and to make use of all the various tools I hadn't noticed nor understood before. Thanks so much, Blaine! ... and kudos and thanks to Jonny Perl!
Great overview of how the tool works! I not only understand how the tool works, I learned a bunch about DNA comparison and mapping. Thank you!
Thanks Blaine and Jonny...I've been doing this with 4 separate spreadsheets for years and now plan to convert!
Outstanding overview. Outstanding tools. Thank you, Blaine and Jonny.
Thank you so much for this which got me up and running with this wonderful software within one evening.
Thanks to you Blaine and to Jonny too of course!
What a revolutionary tool!
Fabulous tutorial. I have been using for a while but there is always something hiding in plain sight that you have not seen or grasped. Thank you
This is awesome - thank you! I can't wait to get started!
Just getting started with this. Fascinating!
Great starter video. Now that I have some matches painted, what next? It would be great to have a video (or series of them) that show how to read, interpret and get meaning from the painting!
Wonderful! Thank you for an excellent, easy to understand demonstration.
I wish I would have seen this video a long time ago because I spent countless days and nights figuring out many of these concepts on my own! Thanks so much for clarifying some things for me. Awesome presentation, btw... excellent tips. I will certainly recommend it to friends! THANKS AGAIN
Thanks so much for this explanation. I am going to give this a try. I subbed you as well. Thank you and Jonny!
Thank you! I really like the tool. I would also love to see how all the data can help us discover how we are connected to new matches.
Absolutely fascinating. Thank you
Thank you for putting this together Blaine. I'm curious on your thoughts if you are creating a profile for yourself if you add the segments for your parents and how you add them. It seems like it is not necessary to add parents and siblings.
"View and backup data" icon is now labeled "All segment data" ...and includes a link "Data backup file", which will save a .txt file ...as well as the other link to save a 'CSV file'.
Best thing I did using DNA Painter. Highly recommend, great if you have family to know the maternal or paternal. Have a bit of endogamy, but still great.
Hi, can you tell me more about this?
This was great! I'm trying to help a "new" first cousin... and trying not to make mistakes.
Thank you very much!
I have only one second cousin related to my Dad's mother. He did not know who his bio Dad was. I am new to genealogy and have no living relatives to ask any questions about his father. I have a couple of 3-4 cousins on his side but they match up to his mom. Does this mean that no one on his bio Dads family have not been tested? I tried to figure out DNA painter but was unable to figure it out. Thank you very much.
If you have verified that small segments as low a 3 cM's are valid through autosomal triangulation, will the total number of shared cM's at 3 cM's or larger still coincide with the M.R.C.A. between 2 cousins? In other words, will the tool that allows us to type in total number of shared cM's still highlight likely cousin relationships? Thank you so much for your work!
How will someone know which ancestors your DNA match and you share if both of your match and you have on your paternal grandfather and your paternal grandmother side of the family?
Why I asked this question is because my cousin father is from one of my paternal grandfather side and cousin's mother is on one of the lines on my paternal grandmother side of my family tree.
This seems to work if you basically know the paternal side and maternal side. How do you figure it out if a parent/grandparent were adopted. I have done a Mirror Tree on Ancestry, I have figured out the possible family link on both sides, based on DNA and matches. Yet, I don't know which would be the paternal side, and which the maternal side. It seems from the DNA painter, I would just make it up, and then later possibly figure it out by waiting for more matches. Then assigning colors, it seems like from your illustration, for every person I am trying to match with, their "paternal/maternal" side would have different colors. Hence, if I am then looking at several DNA matches I may have several colors representing paternal, and several representing maternal. I think I would go bonkers the more I add to the painter.
What do you think of having a standard use of colour codes? Resistors use a colour code.
I start from the beginning in DNA painter, it asks me to put my name and if I'm female. So I did that. My question is how do painter knows my DNA, to compare to the rest people I'm putting in there. Is there a way to put my own DNA in there so it can be compared to me?
Do you put I don’t know ( maternal or Paternal) if endogamy come in …
What does “assignment” of a dna section mean?
I understand what you are doing with DNApainter - conceptually. I still don't understand how I get from GEDmatch to DNApainter ? You said that I wouldn'nt be uploading ALL of my DNA from GEDmatch to Painter ? Please explain ?
Extasy overload! I was excited about triangulation and now to be able to do this so easily!
Does this not work on a Mac? I made three "Profiles" and they show just fine on the chromosomes, but I cannot view all three at once. I can only view them one at a time. I have put them in two groups, but only one group name shows in the "Key" at a time.
Val - it sounds to me as if you've created separate profiles where you intended to create separate groups. A profile is intended to correspond to a DNA kit - so one per DNA test. Ah - I see you emailed about this and this was indeed the issue!
Thank you, Blaine! My holiday gifts just got more scientific!
23 & Me shows both % and cM now
I have a match with 390 cM and 4.15% on 23and me, problem he is adopted he also matches to my 2nd cousins who share same greatgrandparents with me would this means he share same greatgrandparents to us?
How could you do this if your parents, grandparents etc are deceased?
will this help when ancestors were first cousins?
why I asked because a few ancestors of my were first cousins to each other on my paternal side.
Is it true second cousins Lush are a great grandfather. This is something very important to me and I would like the accurate information on it if you could help me I would greatly appreciate it
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Sorry I meant to say does a second cousin had to share a great grandfather
Bill and Ann are third cousins.
How do we map ch 23?
old needs updated...
Will a phased gedmatch kit work on this website?
Yes -and this will obviously help you narrow down maternal vs paternal from the start.
man this is much too complicated for me ok i am 83yo but i am not stupid i have an M.S. in chemistry
DNA Painter would be great if they didn't incorrectly name GRAND relatives. There is no such thing as a "great uncle" nor a "great great aunt". It is uncle, GRANDuncle, great GRANDuncle, 2nd great GRANDuncle, etc.
We have GRANDParents, not greatparents. Hard to take a site seriously that has such terrible naming errors.