I heard Peggy recently as one of the many voices in Zimmerman's parody of Whimoweh "Vote Him Away". These two are wonderful and it is great to hear them in 2020. Last time Peggy was here in Berkeley it was on a tuesday night maybe 15 years ago. Last time the 2 of them were here, Ewan, though fighting a cold, sang Hind Horn for me a beautiful old murder ballad from the Child Collection. I will miss him till the day I die. No one could sing a ballad acapella like he could.
Oh they sing The Ale Wife. It is such a tender and beautiful song. I heard the field recording of Maria Robertson singing it. Seeing this video footage makes me happy.
3:18 'The answer is obviously no!' Ewan MacColl on shaky ground here. Indeed, I would say that his argument falls apart immediately within the context of folk music, simply because of its oral, hand-me-down tradition and thus its being impossible to know what were 'the wishes of the original creator'. By MacColl's logic, any music that is not trying to be as faithful as possible to the wishes of its creator has no validity. Examples that come to mind are the jazz reworkings of Mozart by Jacques Loussier or, indeed, any re-orchestration of a piece from, say, orchestra to piano. Please challenge me if you disagree or if you think I misinterpret MacColl's point. On a lighter note, though, I can't disagree with his statement, at 14:38, that _'Beer should be the background to singing!'_
@@mortschubert3909 By that logic no song can be sung by anyone. Absurd. Your assumption of other people's capabilities is insulting and equally absurd.
That and Peggy Seeger's preposterous assertion that classical singers can't sing the frilly bits. They could sing circles around her. That said, she's pretty great singing while pluckin' on the ol' ban-jo!
@@mortschubert3909 It is only in recent times and the advent of recordings that we have had the concept of a 'definitive' version of a song. More or less up to the arrival of the Beatles most popular songs were written by song writers to be performed/recorded by singers. The majority of 'folk songs' were written for the broadside ballad trade, music halls, the pleasure gardens, the stage - to be sung and interpreted howsoever the singer chose. And, as mentioned, those songs handed down via the oral tradition can change and mutate with almost every performance.
To better hear your voice resonating around your head - it's especially useful if you're singing with instruments as it allows you to hear your own voice
It's not just folk singers who do this. Have a look at Pavarotti for instance. Try cupping your hand around your ear as you speak or sing and you'll see why this is a useful technique.
@Chase Williams Eh, ps: Oops, I forgot to answer the other half of your response. Tha mi dùilich. Ewan Mac Coill was the brother of Peter Seeger who at times was very close to artists who clearly made a deal with the devil. Only Robert Zimmerman, and Frank Zappa to name a few.
@Chase Williams Heyo! I love traditional Scottish and Celtic Music in general, and also love his work as a musician. I only heard (read) recently that his bro in law Pete Seeger was a communist. I knew and still knows barely nothing about his political believes neither do I for Ewan Mac Coill. But I am not surprised then the Mac Coill was too as Seeger a communist. But what did he say about Stalin in a few lines perhaps? Cheers! 🍻 Slàinte agad
I heard Peggy recently as one of the many voices in Zimmerman's parody of Whimoweh "Vote Him Away". These two are wonderful and it is great to hear them in 2020. Last time Peggy was here in Berkeley it was on a tuesday night maybe 15 years ago. Last time the 2 of them were here, Ewan, though fighting a cold, sang Hind Horn for me a beautiful old murder ballad from the Child Collection. I will miss him till the day I die. No one could sing a ballad acapella like he could.
Oh they sing The Ale Wife. It is such a tender and beautiful song. I heard the field recording of Maria Robertson singing it.
Seeing this video footage makes me happy.
3:18 'The answer is obviously no!' Ewan MacColl on shaky ground here. Indeed, I would say that his argument falls apart immediately within the context of folk music, simply because of its oral, hand-me-down tradition and thus its being impossible to know what were 'the wishes of the original creator'.
By MacColl's logic, any music that is not trying to be as faithful as possible to the wishes of its creator has no validity. Examples that come to mind are the jazz reworkings of Mozart by Jacques Loussier or, indeed, any re-orchestration of a piece from, say, orchestra to piano.
Please challenge me if you disagree or if you think I misinterpret MacColl's point.
On a lighter note, though, I can't disagree with his statement, at 14:38, that _'Beer should be the background to singing!'_
If you write a song, do you like it twisted (generally, by people who cannot write a song themselves)?
That is what his words mean.
@@mortschubert3909 By that logic no song can be sung by anyone. Absurd. Your assumption of other people's capabilities is insulting and equally absurd.
@@crinolynneendymion8755, that is the typical reaction of someone who cannot create, only remake.
That and Peggy Seeger's preposterous assertion that classical singers can't sing the frilly bits.
They could sing circles around her.
That said, she's pretty great singing while pluckin' on the ol' ban-jo!
@@mortschubert3909
It is only in recent times and the advent of recordings that we have had the concept of a 'definitive' version of a song.
More or less up to the arrival of the Beatles most popular songs were written by song writers to be performed/recorded by singers.
The majority of 'folk songs' were written for the broadside ballad trade, music halls, the pleasure gardens, the stage - to be sung and interpreted howsoever the singer chose. And, as mentioned, those songs handed down via the oral tradition can change and mutate with almost every performance.
in many of the vids of these folks, they always cover up one ear. What is the purpose of that?
To better hear your voice resonating around your head - it's especially useful if you're singing with instruments as it allows you to hear your own voice
It's not just folk singers who do this. Have a look at Pavarotti for instance.
Try cupping your hand around your ear as you speak or sing and you'll see why this is a useful technique.
Yes I can see how it helps them but it’s corny and lame
@@swaginyourmouth your comment is corny and lame
McColl looks much nerdier, pudgier, smaller, here than on the album covers. Hardly the hero of workers he likes to present himself as.
Hopefully one of the rares stars who hadn’t any connections with the Tavistock institute
@Chase Williams Never heard of the Tavystoq institute?
@Chase Williams What?!
Got his willy chopped off?!
How come?! 😵🙀
Mein Gott!
@Chase Williams Eh, ps: Oops, I forgot to answer the other half of your response.
Tha mi dùilich.
Ewan Mac Coill was the brother of Peter Seeger who at times was very close to artists who clearly made a deal with the devil.
Only Robert Zimmerman, and Frank Zappa to name a few.
@Chase Williams Heyo!
I love traditional Scottish and Celtic Music in general, and also love his work as a musician.
I only heard (read) recently that his bro in law Pete Seeger was a communist.
I knew and still knows barely nothing about his political believes neither do I for Ewan Mac Coill.
But I am not surprised then the Mac Coill was too as Seeger a communist.
But what did he say about Stalin in a few lines perhaps?
Cheers! 🍻 Slàinte agad
@Chase Williams Waoow! Damn it!
Sweet Lord Jesus!
It must hurt. Pff
Don't cover both ears. It keeps you on pitch if you are singing acapella.
American woman have always been sort of weird in context of Brit’s
Especially how she proununces 'Surrey', eh?!
F.ie,
O.ceans and
L.ineations
K.onstrain!