Normal people vs. Victorian writers #10

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  • Опубликовано: 17 дек 2024

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  • @raw_bin
    @raw_bin 29 дней назад +42

    "cacophony of harmonious sound" is an oxymoron which upsets me greatly

  • @gemmeldrakes2758
    @gemmeldrakes2758 Месяц назад +145

    This is called descriptive writing, it is what makes reading fiction interesting.

    • @altashiro
      @altashiro Месяц назад +26

      On the one hand, you're right. On the other hand, a lot of Victorian authors' works were originally published in a weekly serialized format, so they had to produce a weekly installment of their story. They had all the incentive to pad out their writing to stretch their material as far as they could, and a lot of them were also paid by the word.

    • @impracticalPhysics
      @impracticalPhysics Месяц назад +1

      Thank you!

    • @MintBunHunter
      @MintBunHunter Месяц назад +5

      as long as it's not overdone

    • @Ducksaregreat
      @Ducksaregreat 28 дней назад

      Yes but this is over the top

    • @luxtenebrae3056
      @luxtenebrae3056 25 дней назад

      This is called failing to recognise satire

  • @kivosyk9504
    @kivosyk9504 Месяц назад +44

    when you want your essay to be 5000 words long

  • @InTheWillows75
    @InTheWillows75 Месяц назад +69

    Try reading **20,000 Leagues Under The Sea,** there's a chapter titled "A Few Figures," and the entirety of it is the narrator and ship captain discussing the ship dimensions, the mathematical method used to determine the amount of fuel needed, literally anything math-related in the ship's construction.
    Quite literally a few figures. It's a whole chapter of grown smart men talking about numbers.
    And 50% of the book is the narrator, who is a naturalist, CLASSIFYING EVERY SINGLE ANIMAL AND PLANT USING ACTUAL TAXONOMY.
    Family, genus, species, all of that. Oh my gosh.

    • @Tree.098
      @Tree.098 Месяц назад +2

      I read it too there was a whole chapter talking about the marin life out of the submarine
      I was like "please stop talking about *fish*"

    • @SPCv4
      @SPCv4 Месяц назад +7

      @@Tree.098 what else are you supposed to talk about while stuck on an 1800s boat 😭

    • @AlexanderGieg
      @AlexanderGieg Месяц назад +1

      Ah! Then that's the reason I only could find abridged versions when I was a kid! 😂

    • @dragonwithamonocle
      @dragonwithamonocle Месяц назад +3

      Reminds me of Moby Dick, and how many chapters were devoted to all the minutiae and ins and outs of the process of turning live whales into lamp oil. Also the entire chapter dedicated to explaining why whales were fish and you couldn't tell Herman Melville any different.

    • @FloridaManGaming
      @FloridaManGaming Месяц назад +1

      Gotta love Jules Verne

  • @sirtacovi3262
    @sirtacovi3262 2 месяца назад +49

    Now I'm imagining a story with (at least) two protagonists, who were together the whole time and are portraying the same events, but who clearly paid attention to very different details about their surroundings. Sometimes played for comedy, as one protagonist describes this music as life-changing, something anyone who heard it will remember for all time.
    Only for it to be described as a footnote, an annoyance, even, for the second protagonist. Either because they didn't care much for music, or because they had a mission, a goal at the party that had nothing to do with dancing.

    • @tbotalpha8133
      @tbotalpha8133 Месяц назад +2

      I think that's called Rashomon, but I might be wrong.

    • @lampyrisnoctiluca9904
      @lampyrisnoctiluca9904 22 дня назад +1

      I am writing a story of this kind. Actually, have been writing before I started writing my master thesis. When it is over I will continue the story. I love this story much more than I liked the previous one.
      I think the breath of one character noticing one important thing and not another with another character doing the opposite would go well with the first being an idealistic and positive person whilst another one is a cynical nihilist. Great couple 💖. Also if you add them both being something of the unreliable narrators because of how wrongly they perceive certain topics... I will need to rewrite this many times to make it good. I hope it will be.

  • @xavierashton4315
    @xavierashton4315 Месяц назад +9

    When I saw the length, I thought that it was a compilation!

  • @pallaviprasad
    @pallaviprasad 3 месяца назад +55

    How much ink and paper were the Victorians using for their letters 😅

  • @jacobhargiss3839
    @jacobhargiss3839 2 месяца назад +23

    The difference between being a writer and being a good writer.

  • @betabeta6335
    @betabeta6335 Месяц назад +15

    Part of this is descriptive writing, which serves as a tool for emphasis.
    Lets say an author is writing a scene. Bob visits a party to deliver important news to a friend, then leaves quickly. IN which case, "the music was loud" works as a description for the music, becuas it isnt' an important detail.
    However, if Bob is visiting the party to have a good time, the more emphasis might be needed on the music.
    "The music was thunderous, with boisterous energy. the air pulsed with noise, took hold of ppeoples limbs and seemde to make them dance". would work as a description in that case

  • @Justchillingstrangers2012
    @Justchillingstrangers2012 Месяц назад +9

    When your essay didn’t reach the amount of required words:

  • @knopfir
    @knopfir 2 месяца назад +57

    i wish i could write like a victorian writer wtf

    • @hikari1690
      @hikari1690 28 дней назад +2

      You can.
      Just remember:
      Who
      Where
      When
      Why
      How
      And then repeat 3 times per point. Followed by a roulette in a thesaurus and changing the words.
      Finally, choose a cursive font

    • @hikari1690
      @hikari1690 28 дней назад

      Oh, and for the more experience you may also add what. And experiment with different number of repetitions.
      Maybe who can be done 5 times, where twice etc etc

    • @chaosgyro
      @chaosgyro 21 день назад +1

      This isn't even Victorian. This is modern verbiage used to describe rather than simply tell. You can make a formula out of it, but the most important part is to feel the image in your head. Embrace the artistry.

  • @secretarchiveofabobabasein1908
    @secretarchiveofabobabasein1908 3 месяца назад +13

    Chatgpt be like

  • @petrovepryk3786
    @petrovepryk3786 3 месяца назад +9

    Virginia Woolf would enjoy this very much.

  • @urjeshutthasani3714
    @urjeshutthasani3714 3 месяца назад +14

    Keep this channel going .

  • @Ma4ve
    @Ma4ve 29 дней назад

    If they didnt do that then the books would be so much easier to understand.

  • @DRofYouTube
    @DRofYouTube Месяц назад +2

    20,000 leagues under the sea is like 40% description of marine life. It’s peak fiction but that’s aside from the point.

  • @Sequor.
    @Sequor. 29 дней назад

    And that is why Victorian writers are most superior.

  • @MemeCentralWasTaken
    @MemeCentralWasTaken Месяц назад +4

    Keep going, man, this is great. I subscribed ;)

  • @lukelcs8934
    @lukelcs8934 2 месяца назад +5

    Genuinely enjoyed this 🤣

  • @Persun_McPersonson
    @Persun_McPersonson 3 месяца назад +10

    Music. (normal people say)

    • @Persun_McPersonson
      @Persun_McPersonson 3 месяца назад +4

      Victorians: [insert every single piece of music playing at once for hours on end]

  • @Kureemy
    @Kureemy 2 месяца назад +9

    Why is this three minutes long?

    • @RetroJack
      @RetroJack 2 месяца назад +14

      Because it's less then four and more than two.

  • @anchorwithazero
    @anchorwithazero 2 месяца назад +8

    harry potter books for no reason:

    • @sirxander5420
      @sirxander5420 2 месяца назад +3

      Not at all

    • @jdmangrich
      @jdmangrich 2 месяца назад +2

      ​@@sirxander5420 Bro got the attention span of a goldfish

    • @amazingvioletrose1680
      @amazingvioletrose1680 25 дней назад +1

      @jdmangrich actually golfish have an average attention span of 9 seconds, humans have the average attention span of 6 seconds, therefore goldfish have more attention, and octopi have higher IQ, and squirrels have higher puzzle solving skills. Humans are fvcking stupid lol

  • @proximalcentaurian
    @proximalcentaurian 24 дня назад

    ok but what if the reverberation was blue

  • @pyrokrys8583
    @pyrokrys8583 Месяц назад +1

    ngl this is kinda hot idk why

  • @MOPS-jl6od
    @MOPS-jl6od 27 дней назад

    It’s really impressive how this guy managed to write all that! However, I must confess my distaste towards authors who describe the slightest sliver of a shadow with a dozen paragraphs of words. I must admit that after three sessions of agonizing description it gets rather dull and quite boring indeed. Descriptions are fine, they are most vital to the plot, but please remember what is important and what is not. If you overload the reader with a million descriptive descriptions then they will forget what was at first being described. So please, only explain a few things with paragraphs of words, the others will be fine with just a paragraph