Otakastation1, I just watched your video and I have to commend you on your craftmanship. These days, people fail to see the benefit of hard work and dedication, but it's clear to me that you install fencing with the eye of a master craftsman. I haven't seen a fence installed with this technique, but I can see the advantages it offers. Thank you for sharing your work.
We don't use barbed wire as much in this country because of the damage it does to animals hides. Sometimes it is used to stop battens sliding down the fence on hill country. A multi wire battened fence is the most preferred and most effective for New Zealand conditions. Thanks for watching my vid.
yes mate I saw all 4 vids, clever stuff you do out there in NZ I have done a lot of deer and stock fencing when I was younger. keep those wires singing fine work!
Watching things done right is a wonderful thing mate...craftsmanship is a lost art and getting harder n harder to find...kind of sad if u think about it...oh well no worries n live well...cheers
@brithesaw We are fencing in sheep, cattle and goats (if thats what you mean't). Thanks for checking out the vid. I'm flattered that someone took the time. Have you checked out my other 3 fencing tips?
@PermieCulture When you are working with a diagonal stay the higher you go up the post (strainer) the more you increase the upwood purchase. The longer the stay the better. I like to keep them around the middle of the post but would prefer to be lower than higher. There is no firm ruling as far as competition fencing goes as it has caused too much debate in the past. Make sure you use a decent stay block because thats what takes most of the weight.
I bought that hammer in Florida, USA in 1989. It's a 22 oz, waffle head, straight claw and I love it. Now it is almost a flat head and the handle is getting pretty thin. It is still my first weapon of choice (I have a lot of hammers)and it has pounded hundreds of thousands of mostly staples, and nails. Also known as my Knockometer or the fine adjustment tool.
The diagonal stay assembly is more sound under high tension. We crank our fences up as tight as banjo's over here. Plus they are far quicker to install and have less components.
This is a JOY to watch . The few New Zealanders I have met all seem to be “doers” rather than talkers . Tough as nails but very decent . This guy seems to co e out of that same mould
LOVE seeing a hand plane and joinery being used where most Yanks would consider it "overkill" and non of them owning or knowing how to tune/sharpen a nice plane. This timing is perfect, now I know why I cut such large endposts. I'll fit them up like this rather than the hardware shortcuts most know around here.
Thanks. I enjoy using good sharp hand tools. Note this style of fencing comes from the old days when the fencers used to cut and split the posts and battens from the bush and then build the fence. Some of those old native fences still stand today. The only hardware they had then was #8 wire and 2 and 3 inch staples all imported from England. The rest came out of the bush.
@@Otokastation1 I'm cutting my corners and braces, the line-posts and battens will be from Timeless Fence on this one. I may use more "bush" materials on my remote site and in future fencing. Osage Orange and Black Locust are what Yanks in my area use for posts and bracing when using local natural materials.
I like that extra long camo jacket (sweatshirt?). Need me one of those. Haven’t seen that style before. I’m surprised that there isn’t another post at the foot of the stay.
Hi Otokastation1. Great video! What species of timber is it that you guys mostly use out there? Also what type of treatments does the timber have to prevent rot?
Otokastation1 1 second ago 2.7 m strainer driven into rubbly clay. Its more than half its length in the ground. It would take a better fence than I've seen that will shift it. Foots are definately used where appropriate. Its called fencing to the conditions. Experienced operators know all about that.
I build a lot of fence across the Scottish Islands and Highlands, high tensile deer and stockfence. I'm either building into rock or 10ft of peat- so every strainer offers up a challenge..I thought your planing of the stay point was a tad extravagant- is there a reason for doing this? That must have been a slither you cut off the stay to fit?? I can't bury my stays underground as that would be the equivalent of leaving them permanently sat in water, they are jammed into place and nailed through both sides with a 6" nail. Forestry commission now want us to tension a line wire around the bottom of the strainer and round the back of the stay butt. I liked the knot you were tying off on previous line wire video, I'll be using that, for sure. Other than that, good skills mate, nice n tight, you'd fit in well over here. Best DRM.
@45von The posts are treated radiata pine. Once corsican pine was grown specifically for posts and was superior quality. Now we only get supplied radiata, it is fast growing and quite frankly its rubbish. Thats progress for ya
You are right! A conventional demo video would be a great idea. Maybe we could get togeather and do that so there would be no confusion. Contact me if you are keen. I hate digging the strainer hole by myself.
@Otokastation1 Thanks for the reply cobber. yeah it was funny to see these two farmers in their 60's have a fair dinkum dispute over straining fencing. One thing was clear though; if you have to go to the trouble of fencing you may as well make a good job of it. Saves a hell of a lot of time and effort down the track! PS I've just fallen in love with a beautiful kiwi girl! Happy daze aye.
Not often you get to watch a craftsman who is the best at what he does so, while I appreciate the content, it's frustrating that the camera man has no idea what he is doing in all these videos and misses the key times to focus on the work and not a dog or the blokes face. Still thanks for uploading.
Could you please make a video showing driving the post at the steep angle needed for the stay ? and some on really steep ground , Thanks , you do nice work.
What are the advantages/disadvantages of this type of brace to an H-Brace? It seems like you guys in NZ are willing to take a little more time or maybe it's a traditional look. I would think you could save a bunch of time on the mortise joint by using a vicebite.
Good work, mate. I'm not in the trade any more, but I used to use use an inch and half dia auger bit in an adapted stihl to knock out the guts of the mortice hole in the strainer, then I only had to chisel out the corners. I did a lot of deer fencing and it's worth having to carry two saws when drilling out the box strainers. I worked with many Kiwis and picked up a lot of tips from them, bl**dy good fencers.
Thanks for the video mate. Great work. Get home safe when your remote like that mate. Eyewear, work boots, chainsaw chaps. I know did the same and miles from anywhere lost a finger.
2.7 m strainer driven into rubbly clay. Its more than half its length in the ground. It would take a better fence than I've seen that will shift it. Foots are definately used where appropriate. Its called fencing to the conditions. Experienced operators know all about that.
@nathanking1970 Don't you like my FRRrench accent ? At least, I hope you didn't get "pieced" with it. Sry for bad focusing. I guess what I missed is when he was digging, so I can reveal you the secret on what there was on the ground : A hole !! check between 1''32' & 1"39' : it confirms my theory héhé hihi hoho ! Thx for whatching mate, hope you enjoyed :)
If you take a large rock.....or better yet a cement silo stave and lay it ( the flat way and the long way " just below the surface of the ground up against the brace posts......( the first two posts)...there is no real need for any other supports. The reason ? Because the pull forces are spread out over a larger area (against the rock or stave )and very difficult to pull a post over ! Similar to using a rope compared to a fishing line pulling it through your hand.....Fishing line will cut...where as the rope wont !
I gave up using timber posts a long time ago, I never used pine posts as they are too weak and not fire proof as they burn like match sticks, I use railway iron concreted on all posts now with a star picket welded on the to attach the wire, the fence will last a lifetime and you only have to the job once.
Why on a new fence do you join with a knot in the middle? Simply tie off on one end of fence, run wires out and strain off other end strainer and tie directly to strainer with end tie off knot, loses no strain, has no knots to lose 30% of wire strength and is much quicker. Apart from that, lovely workmanship.
@jamo2890 The strainer won't slip around because it is driven. If it is dug in the foot wire is put on in such a way as to counteract the torque that is created from the tensioned wires. (Newtons law.)
Hi, thanks for the info, now I know all about wire fences. This'll really help to keep the mexicans out. I'll be sure to pass this information along to Fox News so it will eventually reach our Great Leader. Have a nice day!
@@lukeconway3454 ... A well "used" fence is always in need of repairs.... its all about good maintenance !!!! Deer damage a fence....and trees fall on a fence......always need repairs !
Always a joy to watch an honest toiler and absolute artisan at work. Impeccable technique and great skill!! Best Tim Astley
Otakastation1, I just watched your video and I have to commend you on your craftmanship. These days, people fail to see the benefit of hard work and dedication, but it's clear to me that you install fencing with the eye of a master craftsman. I haven't seen a fence installed with this technique, but I can see the advantages it offers. Thank you for sharing your work.
We don't use barbed wire as much in this country because of the damage it does to animals hides. Sometimes it is used to stop battens sliding down the fence on hill country. A multi wire battened fence is the most preferred and most effective for New Zealand conditions. Thanks for watching my vid.
Quality finishing with a block plane! Im impressed! There's no 'she'll be right' with you :) Great use of an old Gumboot too :)
yes mate I saw all 4 vids, clever stuff you do out there in NZ I have done a lot of deer and stock fencing when I was younger. keep those wires singing fine work!
That's great! Real piece of art. Always satisfying watching/building a good looking fence.
Thanks for all your hard work. Cheers.
These videos are brilliant and your work is second to none.
Damn good work! Very skilled and talented. Nice watching you work, although I would of enjoyed learning by your side this was still nice to watch
Nice demo very handy with the chain saw - thanks for sharing
Awesome videos, l have learnt heaps from this. Thanks.
Respect.its always good to watch the master ,i wish you well,
Watching things done right is a wonderful thing mate...craftsmanship is a lost art and getting harder n harder to find...kind of sad if u think about it...oh well no worries n live well...cheers
using the spade as a rest when cutting is the best idea i ve seen in a long time simple but it works i have used it 4 months after watching this
Great video. Only thing I do different if knock the stay post at the bottom of the strut after its in place. Nice to see a good job!
Great tips!
Good vid, fencing is a art.
@brithesaw We are fencing in sheep, cattle and goats (if thats what you mean't). Thanks for checking out the vid. I'm flattered that someone took the time. Have you checked out my other 3 fencing tips?
@PermieCulture
When you are working with a diagonal stay the higher you go up the post (strainer) the more you increase the upwood purchase. The longer the stay the better. I like to keep them around the middle of the post but would prefer to be lower than higher. There is no firm ruling as far as competition fencing goes as it has caused too much debate in the past. Make sure you use a decent stay block because thats what takes most of the weight.
Nice work and beautiful country.
Cheers Mate! Make sure you check out the other vids.
Great job, nice tips.
great video mate
Your Stay is tight as a drum ..brilliant work
Love that estwing framing hammer you have on your belt. Noticed it straight away. I'm an English carpenter by the way so would do.
I bought that hammer in Florida, USA in 1989. It's a 22 oz, waffle head, straight claw and I love it. Now it is almost a flat head and the handle is getting pretty thin. It is still my first weapon of choice (I have a lot of hammers)and it has pounded hundreds of thousands of mostly staples, and nails. Also known as my Knockometer or the fine adjustment tool.
The diagonal stay assembly is more sound under high tension. We crank our fences up as tight as banjo's over here. Plus they are far quicker to install and have less components.
Hi mate very impressed
Never seen anyone use a plain on a stay before nice touch.
Chris Warren was that an air plane or just a plane
This is a JOY to watch . The few New Zealanders I have met all seem to be “doers” rather than talkers . Tough as nails but very decent . This guy seems to co e out of that same mould
You are an incredible Craftsman... Your work is Top Quality.
What type wood is that you are using for fence posts?
LOVE seeing a hand plane and joinery being used where most Yanks would consider it "overkill" and non of them owning or knowing how to tune/sharpen a nice plane. This timing is perfect, now I know why I cut such large endposts. I'll fit them up like this rather than the hardware shortcuts most know around here.
Thanks. I enjoy using good sharp hand tools. Note this style of fencing comes from the old days when the fencers used to cut and split the posts and battens from the bush and then build the fence. Some of those old native fences still stand today. The only hardware they had then was #8 wire and 2 and 3 inch staples all imported from England. The rest came out of the bush.
@@Otokastation1 I'm cutting my corners and braces, the line-posts and battens will be from Timeless Fence on this one. I may use more "bush" materials on my remote site and in future fencing. Osage Orange and Black Locust are what Yanks in my area use for posts and bracing when using local natural materials.
A work of art.
Nice!!
beautiful fencing sir yout technique is very simalar to ours
Thanks for that. I always worked on the theory that the job I'm working on is the advertisement for the next. I still havn't built the perfect fence.
Using an American hammer🇺🇸.
Thanks for the great video.
I like that extra long camo jacket (sweatshirt?). Need me one of those. Haven’t seen that style before.
I’m surprised that there isn’t another post at the foot of the stay.
You will only see this in New Zealand. This guy looks like God building the Earth. Love people like this!
Hi Otokastation1. Great video! What species of timber is it that you guys mostly use out there? Also what type of treatments does the timber have to prevent rot?
Otokastation1 1 second ago
2.7 m strainer driven into rubbly clay. Its more than half its length in the ground. It would take a better fence than I've seen that will shift it. Foots are definately used where appropriate. Its called fencing to the conditions. Experienced operators know all about that.
I build a lot of fence across the Scottish Islands and Highlands, high tensile deer and stockfence. I'm either building into rock or 10ft of peat- so every strainer offers up a challenge..I thought your planing of the stay point was a tad extravagant- is there a reason for doing this? That must have been a slither you cut off the stay to fit?? I can't bury my stays underground as that would be the equivalent of leaving them permanently sat in water, they are jammed into place and nailed through both sides with a 6" nail. Forestry commission now want us to tension a line wire around the bottom of the strainer and round the back of the stay butt. I liked the knot you were tying off on previous line wire video, I'll be using that, for sure. Other than that, good skills mate, nice n tight, you'd fit in well over here. Best DRM.
@45von The posts are treated radiata pine. Once corsican pine was grown specifically for posts and was superior quality. Now we only get supplied radiata, it is fast growing and quite frankly its rubbish. Thats progress for ya
V nice job 👌👍
Finally found a kiwi fencer to follow 😆.
You are right! A conventional demo video would be a great idea. Maybe we could get togeather and do that so there would be no confusion. Contact me if you are keen. I hate digging the strainer hole by myself.
love the shoe to protect the plane :-)
Bloody Hell! This Man is Awesome at his craft!! O-o
That may be so but his approach to his own personal safety is shocking.
what are you guys fencing in? great fencing indeed:)
@Otokastation1
Thanks for the reply cobber. yeah it was funny to see these two farmers in their 60's have a fair dinkum dispute over straining fencing. One thing was clear though; if you have to go to the trouble of fencing you may as well make a good job of it. Saves a hell of a lot of time and effort down the track!
PS I've just fallen in love with a beautiful kiwi girl! Happy daze aye.
What gauge wire are you using? Great videos.
Wow he knows his stuff
Not often you get to watch a craftsman who is the best at what he does so, while I appreciate the content, it's frustrating that the camera man has no idea what he is doing in all these videos and misses the key times to focus on the work and not a dog or the blokes face. Still thanks for uploading.
Could you please make a video showing driving the post at the steep angle needed for the stay ? and some on really steep ground , Thanks , you do nice work.
What are the advantages/disadvantages of this type of brace to an H-Brace? It seems like you guys in NZ are willing to take a little more time or maybe it's a traditional look. I would think you could save a bunch of time on the mortise joint by using a vicebite.
Some people suggest the stay should be 2/3rds up the post. What is your view on that?
Great informative vid mate - cheers!
Good work, mate. I'm not in the trade any more, but I used to use use an inch and half dia auger bit in an adapted stihl to knock out the guts of the mortice hole in the strainer, then I only had to chisel out the corners. I did a lot of deer fencing and it's worth having to carry two saws when drilling out the box strainers.
I worked with many Kiwis and picked up a lot of tips from them, bl**dy good fencers.
looks like a great craftsman but from experience a good brace would be a better option
So is the other guy walking around with one shoe?
i suggest hiring a better cameraman, i know a lot of people who can help gooder
Thanks for the video mate. Great work. Get home safe when your remote like that mate. Eyewear, work boots, chainsaw chaps. I know did the same and miles from anywhere lost a finger.
twat
Do yall use barbed wire over there?
Hello from Texas.
Ооооо трактор Беларус))))
Still trying to work out how you snap that wire so easily after creating a knot. Is there simpky a knack to it? Great craftsmanship.
It all depends on the gage of the wire and if its high stencil or not
The cameraman is absolutely hopeless at holding a camera
Nice fence work. Camera work... Not so good..
Go kiwi!!!
Other pride what was the purpose of the plaining
Be interesting to know the labour cost per metre and per strainer assembly.
good old red band boots
never it seen it done like that
Safety glasses, my brother.
Most don't even bother. Just end up getting scratched and end up with multiple pairs you can't use.
It's called a deadman, the short anchor post
2.7 m strainer driven into rubbly clay. Its more than half its length in the ground. It would take a better fence than I've seen that will shift it. Foots are definately used where appropriate. Its called fencing to the conditions. Experienced operators know all about that.
@nathanking1970 Don't you like my FRRrench accent ? At least, I hope you didn't get "pieced" with it. Sry for bad focusing. I guess what I missed is when he was digging, so I can reveal you the secret on what there was on the ground : A hole !! check between 1''32' & 1"39' : it confirms my theory héhé hihi hoho ! Thx for whatching mate, hope you enjoyed :)
I'd use chainsaw to cut square out of strainer and plan my stay with chainsaw save heaps of time and money
Drew Moetu
Hi drew.
What’s the secret to sticking the chainsaw tip into the post without it kicking up?
I prefer the box strainer
Pro tip 5 the cordless planer
I like my hand plane way more. No battery, sharp as, fast and simple. It does a nice job.
why didn’t you use a typical H brace?
Throw chisel away take to long use saw to cut mortis hole instead of using chisel take to long
No eye protection when using chainsaw - not smart.
Why are the posts so thick!!
The maximum we make them here in Kosovo is 6 inches!
if your scrapping with your ol lady this is how you put up a fence.
Shoot the camera man ‘ he’s a shakey show🐥
If you take a large rock.....or better yet a cement silo stave and lay it ( the flat way and the long way " just below the surface of the ground up against the brace posts......( the first two posts)...there is no real need for any other supports. The reason ? Because the pull forces are spread out over a larger area (against the rock or stave )and very difficult to pull a post over ! Similar to using a rope compared to a fishing line pulling it through your hand.....Fishing line will cut...where as the rope wont !
I don't see the advantage over using a traditional H frame.
It must be a deer fence. It would not keep cattle in.
quicker to cut stay hole in strainer with saw and wacky out with the claw of your hammer
Drew the Butcher.
I noticed he rounded the top of the post. What is the reasoning for doing that?
Looks neat and allows rain to run off
Spoil the waterproofing?
Should've atleast footed it with two half waratahs
I gave up using timber posts a long time ago, I never used pine posts as they are too weak and not fire proof as they burn like match sticks, I use railway iron concreted on all posts now with a star picket welded on the to attach the wire, the fence will last a lifetime and you only have to the job once.
Well you won't be concreting railway line posts in on a 2000 sq mile property fence in the middle of Australia.
Please change the camera man next time..
That Post is going nowhere....1500 in the ground to start with then another piece 1800 to hold stay...WOW!
so this is what happened before welfare was a thing?
Bloody blunt chainsaw bro
Why on a new fence do you join with a knot in the middle? Simply tie off on one end of fence, run wires out and strain off other end strainer and tie directly to strainer with end tie off knot, loses no strain, has no knots to lose 30% of wire strength and is much quicker. Apart from that, lovely workmanship.
hybrid dynamics it's ok for short strains but long ones with few angles if u strain from 1 end the other end won't b tight
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Bugger all tension lost, no more than doing at post where you have stay or cross wire brace in the way.
@jamo2890
The strainer won't slip around because it is driven. If it is dug in the foot wire is put on in such a way as to counteract the torque that is created from the tensioned wires. (Newtons law.)
Hi, thanks for the info, now I know all about wire fences. This'll really help to keep the mexicans out. I'll be sure to pass this information along to Fox News so it will eventually reach our Great Leader. Have a nice day!
waste the time planing them can plan with saw
No foot major FAIL.
vidiographer is a bit off the mark...
Too much time taken fix a basic fence !
And then have to do it again in a few years
@@lukeconway3454 ... A well "used" fence is always in need of repairs.... its all about good maintenance !!!! Deer damage a fence....and trees fall on a fence......always need repairs !
Yep I agree taking to long
Cameran has ants in his pants! Stand still FFS! Have a headache now.