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Optimizing Flow In Your Planted Aquarium - Filtration And More
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- Опубликовано: 13 авг 2024
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I’m experimenting with creating tidal flow, like at the benthic zone of a large lake. I’m thinking a 30 minutes-1 hour of high circular flow in the morning in one direction, and 30 minutes in the evening in the opposite direction with a separate powerhead. In the middle of the day, both powerheads will come on to create a vortex for 2x 30 minutes. This will be on a timer. I would have longer periods of flow, but my tank has low-flow species in it, so this is mostly to get natural-looking plant growth and see how the animal behavior changes with the types of flow. I’m fascinated with biological rhythms.
That sounds awesome. How did it work out? I am going to go look into that now haha
I had a planted tank up and growing for almost a year, then I just for the hell of it ,put a wavemaker in it and the growth and Heath just exploded ,I was shocked at how the tank responded!!! I later saw this video and now it all makes sense! I really thought I'd stumbled on a planted tank secret... LoL!!!! Great video and info!!
"Keep your sleeves wet" I like that! Haha. Solid video! Just put a wave maker in my 29gl planted tank and had been struggling placing it. Your video help put my doubts to bed.
Hey thanks for watching. Keep me posted and glad I could help
Yeah my sleeves were always wet. I need a new setup soon! Haven't had a tank for a bit
That explains it. I have a 30G low tech planted tank. About a week ago I added a small sponge filter. In a week the plants have grown wild. The hygrophilia is coming out of the top. Bacopa is a bush half way out even the Vallisneria has started to grow despite me using liquid carbon and having cut it back. The water chemistry has not changed. It must be the flow as the sponge has the full output of the pump causing a lot of ripples and movement.
i love how you just hold the microphone. just living in the moment.
but I would like a popcap ...
Thanks for the tip on the SunSun 603 in response to another viewers question. I enjoy your vids. Thanks bro!
finalout99 thanks for watching yo!
Great video! I actually just picked up a directional u-tube after seeing it in another video of yours and got it running. Went to check to see your positioning and boom, a video with great detail on it.
Seriously applaud you. People talk about making sure you gave great flow but no one follows through in explanation. This has been one of the biggest challenges for me. Giving the gyre flow a shot now.
Between the Halo lights and now filter outputs your slowly changing my tank. 👍
+Bret Santucci Thanks for the input man. If you have any ideas or questions you need answered just let me know. I can do a video on it, or direct you to where you can find the info. Peace
+ADU Aquascaping So I'm trying to the circular flow now, switched over to my 425 from the 240 I was using. The flow is pretty strong now, but I feel like it may be a bit much for the fish. When I was using the gyre flow, I thought the middle was getting plenty of movement, but the sides didn't seem to get as much. Do you notice that also? I have a pretty standard tank that just has a pile of wood at about 1/3 point from the left. Nothing else to block flow.
I'm thinking about running 2 Koralia 240's in addition to my lily pipe from my Fluval 406 instead of the one 425. What do you think it better? Previously I had my lily pipe in the front right and my 240 pump right under it, to kinda boost the lily's flow. The flow really slowed once it hit the other end of my tank though.
This flow stuff just really is the bane of my existence and I think the last piece I'm missing in my tank.
Man that tank looks so sweet! Good work!
+j03yYunG Aquariums or I can direct people to your site/channel for a free large big green ball?.... Let me know. I can do a video on it and have always wanted to try Wabi.
+ADU Aquascaping LOL I that's a funny slogan. Right now I'm still running a few beta test, as we get closer to releasing them I can work something out with you.
I really like how the tank looks now. Also great video lots of good information.
yet another great video Dave! I've only been in the hobby about a year about 3 months ago I ran across your channel it turns me into a planted tank guy I love your angle on planet tanks and aquascaping I'm not a very educated guy but I get it the way u bring. so keep up the good work and thanks for the knowledge!
+Ben Rush Thanks for watching. That is really good to hear. Just keep going. My first tank was the dumbest tank on the planet and at the time I was totally ignorant. Just keep reading and practicing.
Your background as a fellow MC really shines through when you hold the mic mate
I'm using a power head to blow CO2 around, from a diffuser. I did not like the turbidity with an inline diffuser, so I'm trying to downsize with a diffuser. I am trying having this setup on the left side of my tank, but am considering trying the other side where the intake is. I just don't know yet.
Information was a lot of help. I am a new viewer and appreciate the in-depth scientific information.
Great video as always, take care bro..
Thanks, I may be back soon. Just need another tank set up! Scaling the business and my truck is in the shop, so just have to budget right now.
hey guy where are you? i love this stuff, your one of the best on line
Joyce Wolan in the process of making a video. shot some footage today. Just busy with school. thanks for watching!
Great video Dave!!
Just what I needed to know :)
Thank you!
+Laura Wrenn I knew this would help you out! Don't worry I didn't forget! Give me more ideas! LOL
Great video, the new setup looks great, but I definitely miss the old one! Was one of my main inspirations for when I finally setup a high tech tank in a month or so here. Your channel has been my favorite for trusted info on quality planted tanks as well. Keep up the good work!
Was just wondering too, what do use to remineralize your RO water for GH/KH??
+Jason Grohmann That tank was pretty sweet, but just wait! This tank is not even close to being mature. We will all see how it transforms. I use a DIY solution of potassium bicarbonate for the buffer, which I show you how to make in my 10 quick tips series. I believe in episode 4. Either way, it is the first tip in the video so it should be easy to find. You add the buffer to the total water replaced per week at a water change, and not the total tank volume.
Right now for the GH I am using AquaVitro Mineralize. But you don't need to buy AquaVitro. You can just get the dry fertilizer mix called "the ultimate GH booster" off of green leaf aquarium's website or other plant fertilizer sites.
Thanks for watching man.
+ADU Aquascaping Thanks for the info. So, if you are using potassium bicarb to raise KH, does it affect your fert dosing as well? I was planning on going by the EI method, but I know one of the ferts I would be adding would be mainly for Potassium (I think), so in theory, I could add less of that?
+Jason Grohmann Yeah it will add a good amount of potassium, but I still dose KNO3 at moderate levels, because I don't want too much alkalinity in the water. I keep my alkalinity "KH" around 3. Between 3-6 is recommend for most plants. In the video I mention how much potassium the dose will add...
Damn dude, I wish I could get you to look at my tank. It's a 40 breeder and I feel like I'm on the cusp of having it near perfect, and your knowledge and expertise could probably push it over that edge.
Hey man I totally agree with the idea. the reasoning behind the conclusion I have a point I feel that could be added. I personally feel the flow in our planted aquariums mainly contributes to the even distribution of chemistry. hence avoiding hot spots of chemistry and lacking spots of chemistry. In ponds or rivers however the same logic will vary. there is newly available fresh water with nutient promoting plant growth
this simple underlying factor is that anything that promotes good plant growth is gonna deter algae growth.... playing with the flow in the water with this in mind, might be exciting. we could like intentionally promote algae growth over a rock structure alone.
In my experience, flow has always helped reduce algae growth. Also plants close to the substrate loose the detroitis settling on them.
love your videos bro keep em rolling.
great fan
love the passion
+Liv in very good point, yes that is another aspect to why you want good circulation. That is interesting if you could get algae to grow in certain areas. Sounds like a fun experiment. I love algae as long as it is on a rock!
Great video and well explained.
Very timely video Dave, thanks. Explanation was very is to comprehend.
Wishing you both physical strength and mental patience for this term's moments of trials & tribulations.
Party on dude.😎
easy to comprehend*
+Barefoots Child trials, tribulations, and... turbulence! I am basically behaving like water possessed at the moment. I am always a slow starter and usually when most people burnout around midterm is when I finally get on track. LOL
Party on!
Understand completely.👍
This is the info i've been looking for. I put two hydor nanos in opposite corners and it was too much for my stems. I wasn't taking into consideration that my power head was also causing flow. I am going to try the big circle in my heavily planted 55g. Thanks!
You're welcome. Glad the video could help out. Yeah nothing worse than stems that aren't in their rightful place! haha
I see what you did there 8)
I just found your channel, and just in time as I'm getting ready for a small build.. 👍👍👍
Great info! I'm a planted tank rookie myself. After years of fish keeping, I decided to start a small 10g planted tank and if things go well, I will transfer what I've learned to my 75g. Had a HOB Biowheel running which was creating too much surface agitation imo. Just put in a submersible filter with a spray bar. I also placed it very close to my co2 diffuser so a lot of the larger bubbles are sucked into the filter, broken up and dispersed thru the tank. We will see how it goes. Hope it works out.
Good info Dave! The tank is looking great!
Great vid. I just started using power heads recently. This was helpful.
Cool Video! I subbed. Waiting for more!
+Cichlid Stop Thanks, and nice Lab pic! I have always loved Labs.
thanks Dave,
you vidio is right on time!
I just put a anubias and a Java fern on old piece of driftwood in my tank and it's getting blown about a bit.
Glad to know it's a good thing
Great info! :)
+Aquariumgeek thanks
Does this prevent microscopic algae particles to not be able to have a foot hold on any of the live plants and walls of the tank?
It can help a bit, but you just need to clean the algae by hand, siphon detritus, and do weekly water changes. Flourish Excel also works great for subduing algae growth while also supplying a bit of carbon for the plants.
I'm not an expert, but my guess is that increasing the flow of water increases the amount of slime on any surface (including the surface of plants!) and algae will be more likely to settle on plants.
Yes, but the microbes (slime) then eat the algae spores
Wouldn't it be possible in a more advanced Tank Set-up to use Air tubes which you bury in your set up and allow it to peek out of the soil left and right to create waterflow at odd spots? This way, be capable of doing set ups such as under-water caves that may have dead zones of flow in normal case.
Basically, you split the flow out toward Air tubes from your potential external filter. Using a check valve to limit the pressure so you have most of the flow still within the tank in the normal manner while the air tubes help working out potential dead zones in the scape?
+Helveteshit yeah that would work out. That is really the last frontier with aquascaping, doing a cave that is lit up with plants. Would have to possibly use underwater lights as well. Good thinking, and a good project. As far as a regular tank goes wavemakers and filters are sufficient because as velocity is increased so is turbulence, which distributes the water and increases the volume of the water circulation.
Man I glad I subscribed to your channel.. I'm new to the hobby bout month and a half now. But @MassAquariums mentioned you a few times in his videos. I love how you and Mass Aquariums are more interested in tank health rather then all the scape work. Dont get me wrong that's important to me as well. But if I dont care for my plants my plants wont care for my scape.
Can you get your head out of the picture so I can look at your friggin bad ass tank already. Lol. Good info as usual. You continue to sound like the Dr of Aquacology. I love all my circ pumps and I'm constantly moving them to get the perfect flow as my plants grow. Your almost at 20,000 bro. Keep it up and go get yourself a My Aquarium Box
+MASS Aquariums haha, my head is actually pretty big--------- that's what she said.
Lol
MASS Aquariums it's the true Irish curse. They call me bobblehead.
Hey Dave. Just wanted some advice or thoughts on this. I've got a 50G low tech planted tank. would you still recommend X20 flow/circulation on a tank this size, coz it seems excessive. i was thinking about buying a wave maker/circulation pump for detritus as you mentioned and dead spots in the tank to circulate the water. Any brands you could recommend..? and also can you recommend any bulk Carbon Filter Pads/coarse foam pads or white polishing for an EHEIM 2217 Canister Filter that are cheap etc..? Cheerio.
It really isn't too much. It seems like it is, but it works well. Can depend on fish type. some fish may not like higher flow. I use Koralia wavemakers to help with circulation. In my 10 quick tips video, I believe either episode 4 or 5 I recommend a coarse sponge you can buy in bulk, and it is aquarium safe. The link is still active and you can buy it from the website. It is one of the tips in the video, I think it is episode 4. As far as micron foam I don't really have a specific favorite or recommendation. Just whatever is cheapest at that point. Can probably find many different brands on Ebay or Amazon that will work. Just cut them up to the shape that you need.
Thanks for the feedback. Ive got a Blue Planet Track Lighting System on a 4FT 50G is this sufficient lighting for a low tech. Also i've read that if you have sufficient filter filtration (min 4X) on a low tech that it isn't necessary to attach a wave maker, in saying that i was going to buy either a Koralia or Sun Sun, position it in a corner at the bottom of the tank just purely to move or push the water towards the filter inlet.
Thank you Sir!
+Undertow Glad to see you are still using the same thumbnail pic. never change it!
!!BROO you are back!! WHERE were you? missed these great vids
+Beyond Aquatic Design haha, it has only been two weeks broseph!! I usually do a video every two weeks if I can.
great channel and info thanks on being my 400 sub
+James Feenan no problem man.
8:10 what are those white cylinders on the right?
That was Seachem Aquavitro fertilizers. Fancy stuff that I won in sponsorships
Does the fish still school together even with a wave maker?
Great video thank you
Great video! Really good advice. love the aquarium in the background too!! :)
+elvisaquarium Glad to see you back and thanks for watching as always. The tank is really different now. I will have to show it off in my next video.
is the output of a fluval 306 good enough for a 29 gallon? Just two 11 inch amazon swords (Not very thick) some wood and a bamboo plant. Currently have 5 serpae tetra 3 golden prisilla and 7 neon's
how do you keep the sand substrate clean? do you vacuum it? I've read that disturbing is not good, is that true?
s. lamington just clean the top layer. You don't really have to do deep vacuuming. It can be just because it can cause algae if you stir up a bunch of organics if you don't do a water change right after.
ADU Aquascaping oh I see now, thank you!! I'm a beginner
Can someone please answer me this one.
I have a 50g tank stocked moderately with guppys and platys and i have a Oase Biothermo 600 canister
Is that enough filteration and flow?
Please answer as this one is really hard to work out for me.
Is the Oase filter 600 liters per hour or 600 gallons per hour of filtration? If it's rated for 50-100 gallon aquariums you will be fine. If you want optimized circulation, then we usually aim for 10 times the total aquarium volume in gallons per hour. So 500 gallons per hour with a 50 gallon tank. Some of the small Koralia wavemakers do 425 GPH, so you can get one of these to help out. This is total circulation not filtration. But with your filtration and a wavemaker you would definitely be at or above 10x the water volume per hour in total circulation.
@@ADUAquascaping I believe it is 600litres ph and my tank is 180litres so how does that work out, do I need even more?
Edit that's filtration sorry, the flow is 1250 lph
@@Boss-zo4lw You're at 3.33 times more with the filter. So you will want a wavemaker. Koralia nano wavemaker moves 425 gallons per hour or 1600 liters per hour. It's OK to have a bit more. I run some aquariums at 20x the volume in circulation per hour. It just helps keep the water crystal clear and pick up extra detritus. And if you point the wavemaker towards the surface can help to increase oxygen, which then helps the bacteria in the filter and the fish.
@@ADUAquascaping Thats crazy, this filter is massive yet not enough lol, ill look into a wavemaker, thankyou.
Well if it is doing 600 liters per hour it is large enough for filtration. I am talking about total aquarium water circulation per hour. So this is filtration and then any power heads or wavemakers. This will usually make the tank a lot cleaner depending on your setup. Say you have a large scape with a lot of driftwood and plants. Then you would definitely want 10x-20x.
Nice video Dave and great explanation. I agree that is flow essential for planted tanks. To provide my flow in my tank I run two filters at opposite end to give me a circular flow rate.
When you talk about the particles in the water hitting the stem and falling to the bottom creates a bubble of nutrients under the plant...does that mean that when I clean the tank, is it possible to harm the plant by keeping that area beneath the plant too clean?
Michelle Mantonya no, in the aquarium it can be different from nature because we dose fertilizers. If you are doing a really low tech all natural scape some people like to leave all detritus to help as fertilizer. Usually tanks lit by the Sun and very low tech.
good video! :)
I was thinking of getting a 2500l/ph power head for my 90l tank.... Is that too much flow? I have a few branches spanning the breadth if that makes a difference
Hey there! Great video! Can you adress a question I have? I have my intake on the left back corner and the outflow on the right back corner, aiming on a 45 degree angle. I have placed my CO2 diffuser underneath the outflow but for some reason, I feel that the plants on the left side seem like they're not getting enough CO2. Do you think that placing a wavemaker on the intake side would improve the CO2 distribution across the aquarium?
Thanks a lot, cheers from Portugal!
If you look at flow rates for large rivers that many our freshwater fish and plants come from like the Amazon or Congo- you see flow rates of around 2-6 miles an hour (higher in the wet season). If you were to translate this to flow in a 75 gallon tank it would read like this at 2mph :
1mile = 5280 feet. 2mph = 10560ft/hr or 2.93 ft/second. 2.93ft/4ft = .725. So you need to move 72.5% of the water volume per second. 75*.725 = 54.375 gallons/second OR 54.375*60 = 3262.5 gallons/minute OR 3262.5*60=195,750 GPH.
195,750 GPH would be the low end of the Amazon river in dry season for a 75 gallon tank. Let that sink in for a bit. That would be 2,610x turnover.
It's really interesting how this is hardly discussed in the freshwater community. It seems to lag behind the marine community by about 20 years. Most freshwater aquarists keep their fish in essentially stagnant or bog-like conditions.
Your analysis needs a lot of work, it's not accurate and making a lot of assumptions
@@ADUAquascaping MMkay.
nice video
+Hallen Volleyball Thanks!
I recently bought the sun sun hw-603b canister filter and i love it. the only problem i have with t is i cant figure out how to disconnect it without water going everywhere. is there some secret i dont know?
+GamingGuy2000 hahaha! That is the secret of the SunSun. You can add a bucket below the outtake when you take it out. THere is really no easy way, or you could try installing some kind of ball valves to help hold pressure onto each line.
Yeah the 603 model sucks for this unfortunately
great video... I have a 90 gallon planted with: eheim 2217 and fluval 305 whats the best way to place the intakes and outputs?
Very good video, I love how figurative this is.
I know you said there was TWO MAIN ways people were getting flow in their tanks, but I'm wondering if mine is ok?
I have the intake and out in the same corner, and my power head right under the filter output. The main reason it's like that is because I don't really like seeing my powerheads and the plants/driftwood hides it in these corners..
+DViau Aquaria thanks for watching, that may still create a large circle that goes around the entire tank if the outtake and powerhead are aimed in the same general direction. It could even be creating to half circles that go in opposite directions if you have them aimed at 45 degrees into the center of the tank. All that matters is reducing dead spots in the tank, so just do the method that has the least amount of dead spots. It can really be any configuration that you need for your specific tank. I was just getting people started with some ideas. And you can check the direction of flow by mixing in some small flake food and watching where it goes etc...
Hi, great video. Could you please tell me if you have no traditional aeration here, meaning air pump+air stone? Do you only have aeration with surface agitation? Also, do you think too much aeration would increase chances of algae? thnx a lot.
What's your optimal settings for your halo LEDs in terms of height and distance between the two units on the 40 gallon breeder? Thanks Dave!
+chemicalgabe I just cut the tank into thirds and placed on those spots, but a tad to the right of each measurement, so left side is at 10.5" in, and right side is at 25.5".
I have the lights higher than the bracket holes on the hanging arm go, but the two screws seem to hold the arm against the bracket even though the screws aren't in the arm holes. So, I have mine at around 25" from the substrate, using the 110 degree lenses and the output is at around 55% of total output.
Really good explanation. Two thumbs.
And you look like freddy mercury with mic. Cool man!!!
Hahaha thanks!
I love the tank and great info. Thank you for sharing.
I wonder if more targeting of ferts being delivered into the tank would be of any use? Similar to what they do to feed certain corals where you turn off the filter or water motion until the feeding settles?
I don't think it has to be that complicated. The ferts are dissolved in the water, so the flow should suffice.
It sounds like the most efficient circulation from dual overflows would be the 45 degrees to center from the corners if you dont have a powerhead. I keep seeing people putting them in the center, can't tell why.
Yeah the 45 degree vortex works really well. It just kind of depends on your scape and rock work or driftwood, when it comes to the best place for your setup
i have pretty good flow. and i have a spray bar for my filter output. will this mess with my co2 output?
It can create a stable environment of gas exchange with higher flow and surface agitation. All you will have to do is turn up the CO2 if needed. It will deplete your CO2 a bit faster, but not anything you'll notice
great advice
5x tank volume for filtration
10x tank volume for total water movement
Incredible scape! Apologies if I missed it in the video, but what type of rocks are you using to make those towers? Are they dry stacked, or glued together?
They are basalt lava rock. Just dry stacked like a puzzle. A lot of weight, but you have to risk it sometimes.
What filter do you recommend for a 125 gallon hill stream aquarium?
Hi Dave, if I'm just using a fluval 406 on my 3ft low tech planted tank for flow and agitation.. what would be the optimal position to place the intake and output? First time using a canister here, hope u or any kind soul would help..
nay opposite side from one another. Have the output aiming 45 degrees across the tank from back to front.
I have a small aquarium with length 16 inch , breadth 8 inch and height 8 inch. The water is getting cloudy with in 2 days. so i have placed a internal filter in it . but the problem is as the aquarium is small the filter is attracting or pulling the fish too along with water . so the fish can not swim freely. The filter also creating waves . So what should i do? does wave harm or irritate the fish?
You could try adding more filter media to the filter baskets to slow down the flow. This can help. Get more sponge and filter floss and put it in the filter to slow the flow down.
I've come back here for reminders! Question though, I'm using the circular flow pattern and got a new EHEIM 1000 pump to help, what's the ideal depth to place it shooting across the front? I'm running co2 and dosing and want to carpet! Thanks :).
Adam Downes It is relative. Just have some surface ripples, but nothing crazy.
I have a 20 high at home and accidentally received a 12" finnex LED instead of a 24". Is there a particular light you recommend?
Finnex does work well, but yeah you will want the larger model. The Finnex Vivid or Planted+ should work for that size aquarium.
Wouldn't the plant competing for nutrients in the water column reduce the algea growth? Maybe this is what's going on?
Would a wave maker be shrimp safe?
In most cases yes. I have never had any fish or shrimp get sucked into one. They usually don't even care about them. Usually they stay on the driftwood or plants.
@@ADUAquascaping alright thanks
Dude! Where is the next video? We need the next ADU fix over here! :)
+Jurassics Just pumped out a bunch. Where you at dawgg?
Thanks for de vid. I have one questions left, what is this moss you are using on those stones? They look natural en not so high in lengt.
They are fissidens fontanus and riccardia chamedryfolia, AKA mini pellia, the Fissidens moss and Mini pellia both stay round shaped and compact even without trimming. They're nice that way
"don't be too eager to tell others their faults".
Once you fully understand the rules behind why it works, you can demo people not using it. E.g., Using H2O2 or Excel to get rid of algae, once you understand why it works, you can demo a clean tank without using them at all.
There are tons of examples in nature or show tanks in zoos have little or none water flows at all, plants grow very well.
The reason we need a 10x/5x gph flow because flow can distribute nutrients very well to every plants is weak. Without flow, water molecules can do that for us very well.
Water flow can help BBA grow once a tank/filter has too much organic waste. More maintenance work, more cost.
+ccloop It is true you could balance the BOD in a tank and have low flow, but for most people if you increase flow you increase O2 into the filter, which helps the bacteria of course break down the organics more efficiently, and at the same time is helping to get all of the detritus into the filter and off of the plant leaves. It is true that type of filter scenario can cause eutrophication and hypoxia if your filter is inefficient, but if you have higher flow with ample amounts of media it helps to reduce these issues. Small aquariums with super dense plant mass and potential for high organic decay are not that great at self regulating, especially during the initial 4-8 weeks. I have found the higher the flow, with ample amounts of media the less risk there is of nutrient contamination, sludge build up etc... Bacteria work better, which reduces the organic contamination, and the higher flow provides more O2 for the system.
+ccloop Also, under water there is a water boundary of up to 0.5 mm thick that can limit nutrient contact with plant leaves, turbulence helps to break through this water tension boundary, which is a unique situation for aquatic plants.
Question!
Do you think this type of vortex flow would stress up my fishes?, i mean by the night time when they sleep.
+Alvaro Reyes it won't be that strong in most cases to bother them. And in certain areas of the tank the flow will be less and they will find themselves sleeping in the low flow areas.
Great article, thank you! I was trying to figure out where to position my inflow/outflow in my 5 gallon nano tank before drilling the holes in my lid. This is my first serious planted tank and with my goldfish experience I've already got extra filtration and flow in my tank (Eheim 250 on a 5 gallon fluval chi).
Just bought a tub of osmocote from your save money tips. why oh why did i buy all that flourish... subbed btw
+Candyfloss haha, it works great for stem plants. Can grow amazing stems in just plain sand.
i know this is an old video but is 211 gph for a 16 gallon tank too much? thats going through the whole tank about 13 times per hour
I got a 90 gallon with a eheim 2217 and also got a eheim skim 350, do you think I still need a power head?
+bigtroublenj If you find the tank health and growth of the plants satisfactory than you don't, but I have found, along with other aquascapers, that having at least 5x the total volume per hour turnover to 10x the total volume per hour turnover works really well.
That filter is only rated at 264gph, and Eheims are known for having low flow. My API Filstar on my 40 gallon is doing 250-300, plus I have the wavemaker at 425gph. The Eheim. skimmer only does 80 gph.
Another reason why I say 5x to 10x is because of fish type as well. Some fish don't want tons of flow, and some do.
Good info. What's your opinion on blacking out a planted tank for 48-72 hours to deal with algae?
+Larsen T. It can work for some algae. I only ever had success using that method one or two times. It can also stress the plants, and some algae actually grows at night! haha. I have this one algae right now that will grow at night. Craziest thing.
I know this is a silly beginner question... and possibly the wrong video to ask it on. But I just got a 50'' long and 30" tall tank. I want to grow some high light plants(I will also be running co2). What kind of lighting would you suggest? I found a current pro plus at my LFS and it's mad pricy... but if it will grow high light plants... I will do it. Please and thank you!
For such a tall tank you definitely need CO2, so that is a good start! It will help free up needed energy to trap all available light, which will be lower at the substrate on such a tall aquarium. I would go with a Finnex Ray II- higher output, and possibly a Finnex planted+. Both of them on top will most likely be needed. They are not as expensive and get the job done. You can get the newer planted+ model with built in timer, but would save even more on the classic model. Both are very simple and can be connected to timers, and they get the job done. And both combined together would make for better color rendering.
Awesome, thanks!
should i add a little wavemaker to a low tech 8 gallon nano tank.
+Kevin Bretscher No, the filter should be enough.
What plants and mosses in the aquarium ? Hello from Russia !
+Дима Демин I have Riccardia, fissidens, monte carlo, java moss, micro sword, hydro sp. Japan. Thanks for watching.
hi mate just want to ask I have a wave maker in my fresh water tank is it safe turn on I have some endlers guppys and some spotted blue eyes in my planted tank I have eheim and aqua one moray in my tank would you that is enough water movement I do want to put my wave maker on but I don't want to have my fish get sucked in so what do you recommend nice tank by the way happy fish keeping
yeah some may get caught in it. It does happen sometimes. You can maybe try covering it with something, mesh, or screen, but you may need to switch to a powerhead with a prefilter screen to keep them out. It is a possibility. Try it out and if some die in there just modify it with some panty hose or something.
Great video! I have a 120 g with an Eheim 2217 and many powerheads at my disposal. What is the best way to arrange powerheads while minimizing visible equipment? What are some ways to check for an adequate flow pattern besides waiting for plant response? I'm redoing the tank soon and want to have optimal flow from the start.
+Andrew Huang I would just do what I always do... set it up how I want and just wait to see where the biggest dead spots are and adjust accordingly.
I'd get another 2217 for a tank that big. I run a 2217 on a 55 gallon.
Hey, fish freak! Another relevant video, thanks! Or should I say, tanks! Ouch, that was really bad.. I have 4 streams of bubbles coming out of a crappy air pump and going into the substrate, and they do move a lot of crap around. Would you consider a certain form of airflow for movement in your tanks, and what would you suggest?
+Eric Maher I just prefer to create some agitation at the surface with the filter or wavemaker for oxygen levels. I like Koralia wavemakers, and you may not want too much O2 in your substrate if that is the case. Bacteria beds usually behave better with lower O2.
Got it. Thanks!
What filter do you recomend for an 8 gallon low tech plant tank ?
A Sun Sun nano 603 canister filter both works and is inexpensive.
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Nice video. Have you thought about setting up your videos like a lot of gamers set up theirs? You film your tank full frame and them put yourselfe in a corner? How about filming your tank up close from more angles? And a stand for your mic? Take out the tourbuss guide wibe. ;) Not saying your doing it wrong at all, just suggesting. Watch everything you make for inspiartion and helpfull info. :)
+Jurassics haha, don't worry. I like the picture in picture idea that way my head can be following the tank around. Sometimes I just narrate the video and show different angles etc..I mix it up in other videos. I have a stand, but it's easier to just hold it. Thanks for watching.
where do you get the background for that tank?
+Morgan Rose-Fleming It is just white poster board tacked to the wall and then I shine a Finnex Ray 2 LED fixture onto the poster board.
Lol this guy thought it was some fancy background. It's clearly just white.
Would be interesting to know the difference between low tech and high tech aquariums. Should low tech have less flow?
+OriginalMindTrick No, low flow is an outdated idea in most planted tanks. Unless you are really trying to do a Walstad El Natural tank, and even then I would add flow. Flow is found in nature and plants prefer flow.
In my low tech 10 gallon tank I used a SunSun 603 canister, which is rated at 106gph, probably a little lower in reality, but that is still close to 10x the total volume of the tank per hour. Says it is for 20 gallon tanks, but really is better suited for smaller tanks.
My API filstar filter says it is for 75 gallon tanks, but is better suited for 40-55 gallon tanks.
+OriginalMindTrick i did a couple planted tanks with no flow nothing used dwarf sag in one tank and baby tears in another and both grew amazing in the sun used saft sorb as substrate i have endlers in one tank and some neohentrdria elegans in the other
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What kind of light is minimal for the baby tears to look healthy?
***** well im talking about reg baby tears not dwarf baby tears "HC" but i used t8s , led flood lights, screw in led bulbs, cfl as long as its a daylight bulb your good to go also i have it growing right now in a 10 gallon with screw in led bulbs
what species of catfish did you have swimming in your tank?
Joshua Eum Oto Cats
Are they just standard Otos?
jinkles111 yes just the standard
I like your video, I have problems on planting Rotala, can you help me?
+Tan Desmond Thanks, what is going on?
+ADU Aquascaping I don't know how to put it in words, is there anyway I can send you some pictures?
Can anyone tell me what the lights are over this aquarium?
aquatic life halo LED
are you still selling dragon stone? I am verry inerested in buying some for my 75gal. what is the best way to get in contact with you?
+Kristopher Priewe hit me up through my email, fishfinaticsdob23@gmail.com
I think it needs to be said that there is a big difference between mass and velocity when it comes to flow. Fish care about velocity, plants care about mass. "High" flow is an ambiguous term because it fails to specify what type of flow it is. For example my 40G has a mag 7 sump pump, that is 700 gph (listed rate) spread across my back and left walls with a spray bar (4.5 feet). Drilled holes are 11/64ths, which allows the velocity to distribute. The tank has high mass, medium-low velocity. As for my Apistogramma Biotope I use an ehiem 2215 in a 12L(~200gph), with a 2 foot spray bar, low mass, low velocity.
+Brandon C. Very good point! The funny thing is I was just talking about velocity and volume today with my brother!'haha.
It is true. The wavemaker does help with more volume vs just velocity that's why I love using them. You get good distribution,turbulence/ natural look. And I can see what you mean with the spray bar method. With most increases in velocity you will increase turbulence, which will distribute the water volume around and will counter acceleration in one direction, and considering we are dealing with small glass boxes we don't really suffer from poor distribution. Unless you're using a sponge filter with an air stone, :P. We will just keep the nerd stuff to ourselves and others can skim through the comments if they feel inclined to do so. Thanks for watching man.
+ADU Aquascaping Yeah man I always enjoy your videos! I do enjoy the more technical side of the hobby, your substrate video is probably my favorite of your videos.
Brandon C. haha, that is probably my most hated video. I was just to vague for most people and should have used better terminology, such as co-factors, enzymes, denitrifying bacteria etc... but that probably would have made everyone even more confused. I was just trying to cram a lot of info into one video. Thanks for the support man. I will just be a hack until I finally graduate. I still have some more extreme sciences classes coming, so hopefully my head doesn't explode!
Do you have to worry about loss of cor in a low tech tank?
EO Rhino some red plants yes, but watch my latest video. Shade loving plants prefer the shade and lower light to some degree.
You shouldn't rely on filtration though to get proper flow. It's a fact that slower and larger filters like the eheim classic do a much better job of filtration because the water has more time inside the filter itself. A good circulation pump is better than relying on a filter.
+MichaelVick That's right. I recommend using a wavemaker, which also increases O2. And with low O2 the tank will suffer. Thanks for watching.
Hey, just wanted to have an opinion,i have a 2ft planted fish tank and im not sure if i should use my spray bar to increase my circulation rate or stick with my lilypipe as i have a deadspot which is bottom of the lilypipe. several fishstore owners tell me that i dont need big amounts of circulation..but i just need good amounts of filtration...currently not sure if i should switch back as i have suddenly have BBA which are covering quite a few plants causing them to melt and a green velvet layer of algae on my weeping moss covered wood.. .been cracking my head if its something to do with my lighting or co2? or nitrates or what..
How do those neons handle the flow? It's not to much for them?
Robert Maz they didn't seem to mind too much. Just found areas of lower flow to hangout. They where all pretty healthy.
ADU Aquascaping awesome. I have a 30G Bow that I am getting ready to plant and I have 9 neon 3 cory and 2 BN plecos. I was told that the neons do not like too much flow...
Robert Maz they should be fine if it is 10x the total water volume per hour of circulation relative to the aquarium size. Or you could do a little less. Usually a filter rated for your aquarium size is sufficient, but depending on the scape design or size of the aquarium you may need to add an additional powerhead or wavemaker
I have some advice. remove Bio media like rocks, ceramic rings extra completely from your canister or HOB filter and only put sponges.
you don't need the excess media reducing the lph of the filter. I took out 1.5kg of BioHome media and replaced it with pot scrubbers and some sponges. bacteria doesn't care what surface it lives on, as long as it has a surface it will multiple. not to mention that your plants have WAY more rough surface area and oxygen for the bacteria to grow and deal with nitrates. not to mention your plants (whether high tech or low tech) if they are healthy they too will deal with nitrogen compounds.
I replaced my media, got more flow from filter. and now I get to watch my plants pearl.
+Ironiic zero Good deal, that is how it should be in the planted tank. That is how I try to run mine too. With just a lot of sponge and whatnot. Yeah the plants take care of most of the bio filtration in your tank, and plus the substrate does a lot too. Plus I am always using super porous lava rock so that helps. Good tips, and thanks for watching.
ADU Aquascaping yeah I too use lava rocks for the moss of my scapes. Yeah the roots in the substrate produce oxygen which again will hold more bacteria than your filter.
I think a problem that alot of people have is either overstocking their tanks with big fish when they have it planted. IMO less and nano fish is better. Keeps the sense of scale and the bioload down.
Always enjoy your videos. More informative unlike a certain loud American that worships dirt...
Keep up the good work
+Ironiic zero It's true, that was my mistake as of late. I got too many Neon Tetras and now I keep getting the biofilm on top of the water just after a few feedings, and never used to get it. Hopefully now that I am using tons of lava rock as the tank matures it may go away, but I may have to add more sponge to my filter. Haha! Yeah D is super loud! He helps keep the American stereotype alive.
+ADU Aquascaping I'm having the biofilm issue too. What should I do? I've got 5 neons and 6 white clouds. Is the film due to their food? I have a Fluval canister. I'm planning to get a wavemaker b/c I don't think there's enough flow.
owltastic have you tried raising the outlet above the water to create surface agitation
What lighting do you use..?
+Rendi Prasetyo I am using AquaticLife Halo LEDs. They have really nice color rendering.