Your skill at interviewing and asking meaningful questions has gone through the roof. I know a lot of comments have been made about you being in the booth, but no one out there is doing this platform better than you right now. Thanks, David.
As long as the car is a fornula car, it needs to look and sound amazing. Minor aesthetic changes can be made to the car, but the exhaust note needs to sound much more like the turn of century CART engines, or even the mid 90s.
It will admit they need to make the engine note to what they had with the 2003 IRL Chassis. That was the only good thing Indycar IRL had if that kind of sound was around at the beginning in 1997 IRL might have had a better reception with the fan base. The original cars were too much stock car sounding. Not the popular open wheel sound people were familiar with.
@robertmusgrave9236 The crapwagon (1997-2011) sounded dreadful. Absolutely uninspiring. Whoever greenlit that spec of car has zero passion for racing. You are one of very few people who enjoyed it.
I think the 2027 Indycar should be a cross between a super formula and a 2000s Indycar with a twin turbo high revving v8 between 850 to 950 horsepower!
Graham’s answer was exactly what I was thinking fast loud and sexy cars that’s what I remember as a child and what drew me to Indycar more than any other racing it’s the best. Best drivers and cars in my opinion
I won't mind if the 2027 car is a simple evolution of the current car. But I do think that to stand out, they will need very noticeable body kits for the different types of circuits that stand out more than the aero kits they use now. It shouldn't look bolted on, it should look like it was all meant to be there.
Have to say David, it is really cool seeing how far you have come in your RUclips journey covering the sport. Honestly Fox should bring you on in some capacity
All the need to do is pretty simple. Open Engine regs, with a HP limit Create a Box, W x H x L of the what the car's measurements should be (with hard set safety regs) Let the teams figure the rest out That's really it. The fact that these 3-Simple Steps aren't being done is the reason why Indycar hit it's ceiling.
My approach would be to have a common chassis with a common floor and tub but allow the teams to either build their own aerodynamic elements within a certain framework of rules or buy aerodynamic elements from Dallara.
@DavidLand i have an idea for series or video you could do to show Indycar's history. Lost championships Michael Andretti's 1992 season. A history of the Andretti curse at Indy. Michael Andretti was my driver when i watched CART and while everyone remembers the finish of the 1992 indy 500.. everyone forgets that Michael Andretti dominated that race before lap 189.
Personally, I’d like to see something like IMSA does with engine regulations. Find a horsepower limit that the majority is comfortable with then give the engine manufacturers more latitude within the rulebook to meet that horsepower requirement. In other words, allow for different types of engines to be utilized. I feel that this would make the series more attractive to potential engine manufacturers and the variety of engines would engage the fans more than the series does at the moment.
The current car is full of great elements, but over the years the package looks more and more stitched together. They could integrate all these great elements (like the aero screen) into a coherent and lighter package, which needs to look quite different from formula 1 & 2. And as far as the drivetrain is concerned, they should make it more appealing to (new) constructors in the first place...
I agree with Rossi. No need to reinvent the wheel. I think the idea of drawing in fans with a super modern design is overstated. I think the risks of driving up costs for the teams, degrading the racing quality and dividing the current fan base are greater than the potential rewards that would be seen from an incremental increase in fans. As far as what I'd like to see. I'd like to see it lighter, have better aero characteristics on the ovals and more freedom for teams to make their own aero changes. A small V8 would be cool, but I don't have an issue with the V6 so I could take it or leave it.
Being that it seems the 27 car design is 95% done (testing and manufacturing not included) I think just getting something out there is great. I would like to see a development timeline going to 2035 or beyond. I would like to see an energy BoP to open up the power-train back up.
Next car should look like 99/00' reynards...the players cars , kool green cars, marlboro penske cars, miller lite papis car..they are awesome cars..forget about a futurama type of car. I want a proper formula car.
Forget the cars, concentrate on the calendar! It should be 6 ovals, 6 road courses and 6 street races and rotate them in that order. Also get rid of that stupid private venue that had the most embarrassing race format in history last year!
I think they need to build a base car with a given wing area you must maintain and maybe allow them to shorten the wings but must match the wing area with added winglets. Allow them to try the shark fin again.
Honda gave Racer step by step instructions to attract more engine suppliers to IndyCar and instead Penske chose the DW27 because it is the cheapest thing they could come up with.
I think indycar could benefit from what IMSA has done with the regulations for the GTP cars. It’s amazing how many manufacturers have come in, as well as the differences between the cars, but all of them competitive on any given weekend. They obviously can’t copy those regulations, but doing something similar may allow for more variety while maintaining great racing.
Lightweight, loud and brash engines with no hybrids. Low downforce, high suspension travel... let the manufacturers decide how their car works and runs. Thin rulebook, universal safety cell that the car is built around
@@Montgomery_N_Pottichen04trying to get with the times. But they were a full 10 years behind making the move. At this point they should have just stayed full ICE
I absolutely LOVE Graham’s comment. He is 100% spot on! “Authentic, LOUD, and fast”, along with the “sights, sounds, & smells”. Nobody wants to hear rolling tires & smell ozone produced from electric motors.
Great interviews! For the new cars, I would be curious how they can use hybrid more effectively. Also, I’m curious what everyone thinks of the hybrid they added mid season last year.
Here’s one idea to float out there. What about variations on the high-airbox era of Formula 1 in the mid-‘70s? Give manufacturers the option of creating their own version so the “spec” series notion, at least chassis-wise, isn’t as obvious? They looked great coming at you at Long Beach in 1976, and could draw in fans new and old as something distinctive about formula car options.
Nice hat, ( I’m from Michigan ) I recently saw scale models of F1 cars from 1999 vs. 2024 setting next to one another, and it’s quite stark how HUGE the current F1 cars are now compared to only 10-15 years ago. This has made the cars harder to drive and much WIDER ( harder to overtake especially at Monaco ) Also the stupid air defectors on the front wheels render the F1 cars as no longer “open wheel” So I hope that the new Indycars don’t get too LARGE ( heavy with batteries ) Other than that, as long as we can see the ENTIRE WHEEL & TIRE on ALL FOUR WHEELS, from all sides of the car, I’ll be happy = NO FENDERS. The Marmon Wasp has NO FENDERS. That’s important. Ray Haroun would NOT have FENDERS. That’s important.
Indy's niche is all the cars being the same, with the racing quality that this brings - there is no balance to be had. If I want to see the best driver in the best car win every race by 20 seconds I know where to go. Anything they can do to make the cars the same, the better.
It appears most drivers are for a lighter more powerful car. Possibly open the rules for some freedom with limited aero development. My preference would be to allow multiple constructors however at this juncture it’s not in the current scope.
Now not ditching indy car but any technology in indy came from F1. F1 is technology driven which is the premise of F1. Automatic gear change was in F1 in 1990.
I think the car has to be wind tunnel testing and mechanical testing right now. They want this new car in 2027. For proper track testing, the car has to be done by the beginning of the 2026 season so they can get a full year of testing at all planned 2027 tracks. Otherwise, the car will have tons of issues going into 2027. Concept, design, engineering, development, manufacturing allocation, and testing take 4 to 5 years for production cars. Race cars are more complicated.
To me go conservative and integrate all the changes into a new chassis. The aero screen definitely changed the DW12. And I hope that it will allow for something bigger, just not 15 years later.
Look, I may be biased, but the Stanley Cup is the best trophy in sports. I will give the Borg-Warner a very close second. Both have amazing history and are leaps and bounds above the rest, but the nod goes to Lord Stanley's Cup.
Hi David. Any word on who will be responsible for the early testing and development of the new car. Regardless of what firm the new car takes, if the early stage testing and development is carried out one of the existing teams (Penske or Ganasi as example) that would be a high advantage. Any talk of an independent organization and driver funded by IndyCar to do the testing?
Best product on track? I am guessing Rossi didnt see the chilibowl. Need to give a shout out to Santino, destroyed his car, came back with a midget that looked like an old twisted sister nascar and made a hell of a run with it.
The indycar series is basically a spec series, the new car just continues this It is too bad that the series still has drivers that should be retired so young blood has a chance
I don't think IndyCar can ever be what it was chasing F1 philosophies. They'll never be able to live up to that. I get that we all live in the same reality. IndyCar has to appeal the same industry that F1 does. At this point though, they've lost. The realities of costs and being a north American series limit their ability to compete on this plane of "adding more voltage", as if thats just going to make the series magically more appealing. Instead I think they really need to think outside the box. Why not be the anti-f1? Embrace everything people wish F1 was, fix everything they loath about it. Make the cars loud. Control the wake. Etc. IndyCar already has something of a throwback identity anyways. We have a bunch of real road courses in rural areas, for example. Play up that nostalgia. Find a way to make it appealing to OEMs with sustainable fuels or some other bs like that. Who knows you might even attract some F1 purists and other fans longing for those glory days when the sport felt a little more raw and real.
@@fqeagles21 the competition was great, I won't say I didn't enjoy it, but as @David Land can confirm, the visceral experience leaves something to be desired. I would much rather attend a race in the 1990's or 2000s, even with less competitive races.
I hate this 'make the wheels bigger' trend. I like seeing the massive sidewall move and crinkle under the forces of the racecar. The big, grippy, wide tire makes me think of speed.
The reason they want the bigger wheels is essentially dumb car customers.. they want the tyres to look more similar to road tyres so they can say 'dur during motorsport researched tyres' They being, honda, chevrolet.. any car company. In reality anyone with half a brain understands a grooved all weather road tyre cant benefit in anyway from information gathered using a slick race tyre 😂😂😂
@ that argument at least makes sense for stock cars or sports cars, but no one thinks a formula car tire is going to be similar to their street car tire.
Yooo David super off-topic but do u know if able motorsports is going to field an Indy 500 entry this year? And do u know anything about Michael Cannon leaving Prima?
If the Cadillac V-Series R and Aston Martin Valkyrie can exist with V8 and V12s in the modern era so should Indycar. A good sound is one of the key components that can attract new fans, they can build the second coming of the red bull X, if the car has another bland V6 Hybrid it will be DOA.
Single spec engine, same displacement as F1. If the chassis can be built in America it should be. If there was some way to introduce a multi-class system that might be worth investigating
I’ve said this since 2022: Dallara knows how to build the Haas F1 cars. Take that design as a base and work on the design to make it suitable for what IndyCar is and the tracks it goes to.
To change the cars every 3 years will be too expensive for the current teams. Now if you’re ok with 20 cars like f1 that’s probably all you’ll have. You’ll have Penske, 3 , Ganassi 3, Andretti 3, Foyt 2, and who else would be able to spend the money , find sponsors that would support a non spec series. Need to have a blend of the CART series and the glory of the 70’s 80’s of oval racing
@@karendarrenmclaren they've been around so many years, everything from the Aeroscreen to the hybrid system has been simply tacked on. That makes them heavier than they need to be. There have been numerous improvements in aero and suspension tech which could easily be incorporated in a new car. The result would be a more nimble, safer car which would be no heavier than the current one and potentially even lighter.
@@karendarrenmclaren then why aren't they running roadsters with Offenhausers under the (front) hoods? Tech matters in racing. NASCAR Cup was forced to finally stop running the world's fastest 1967 Chevy pickups because they were at risk of losing their relevance.
@@makb_the_striker ummm fans...just like every other racing series.....oh wait...yeah IndyCar doesn't have fans, just people bored on a Sunday...so it will be teams paying for innovation TO WIN...but at a substantial cost to formula 1....
@@terenceramroop IndyCar audience is ± the same Formula E has. E limits the areas of innovations to software, electric motors and transmission. But still Formula E teams are unprofitable (as a series in general). So no, fans couldn't cover it. Even on F1 scale (most teams are unprofitable).
I'm fine with hybrid electric, should be like the hyper car. High horsepower like the 90s, with that wow factor that F1 can't hold a candle to. LOOKS wise, just a real muscular look, nothing like some euro car. Just make it tough, and cool. Current car is great, I think just update that. But I'll say this, it's a make or break for the series. An ugly car with a low horsepower engine will sink the series.
Would be nice if they switch to the imsa/wec engine model. You already have established INDYCAR teams drivers techs etc with the crossover. GM and Honda stay; BMW, Porsche, Lamborghini(Audi) to possibly come into INDYCAR. BMW just to me makes too much sense and Porsche fliers with F1 but has actually produced an Indy engine, along with also Mercedes via Illmor/Penske. Let me not get too deep down the rabbit hole but yeah. Just a fans thoughts.
There is a reason i like rewatching clips from CART..those were sexy and sounded beautiful
2026 cars looks good on paper apart the Engine,indy should do something like that
#getdavidyoutubepremium
Literal LOL.
Your skill at interviewing and asking meaningful questions has gone through the roof. I know a lot of comments have been made about you being in the booth, but no one out there is doing this platform better than you right now. Thanks, David.
They need to carry over the toughness of these cars. It’s nice that they can bump a bit and not trash the car like in f1
That's true, the durability and ability to come together without ending someone's race are positives.
27:26 I was so confused I thought my RUclips premium went down 😂
when LMP3 drivers attack
As long as the car is a fornula car, it needs to look and sound amazing. Minor aesthetic changes can be made to the car, but the exhaust note needs to sound much more like the turn of century CART engines, or even the mid 90s.
It will admit they need to make the engine note to what they had with the 2003 IRL Chassis. That was the only good thing Indycar IRL had if that kind of sound was around at the beginning in 1997 IRL might have had a better reception with the fan base. The original cars were too much stock car sounding. Not the popular open wheel sound people were familiar with.
@robertmusgrave9236 The crapwagon (1997-2011) sounded dreadful. Absolutely uninspiring. Whoever greenlit that spec of car has zero passion for racing. You are one of very few people who enjoyed it.
@ well I only truly enjoyed the engine sound but didn’t like the other features then and I was only like a kid then I’m almost 30 now lol.
I would very much appreciate it if they brought back turbo charged V8 engines.
@@Montgomery_N_Pottichen04 I'd be fine if they made the current V6 the same displacement as the 2.65L V8s in CART.
We want a Champ car, plain and simple. Loud, fast, and good looking. But I don't expect much from Dallara.
Had one… DP01 very short lived
@Mario_Ramirez they gave us the V Series R..so..there be a bit of hope
@@Ghettocowboy33 One of the best looking race cars of all time!!
Dallara can make whatever car you want them to make.
I actually agree with Graham Rahal - Loud and fast. No falling down the electrification trap.
I think the 2027 Indycar should be a cross between a super formula and a 2000s Indycar with a twin turbo high revving v8 between 850 to 950 horsepower!
Graham’s answer was exactly what I was thinking fast loud and sexy cars that’s what I remember as a child and what drew me to Indycar more than any other racing it’s the best. Best drivers and cars in my opinion
We need a 2027 CART Champcar for IndyCar!
But safer than the old CART chassis…
I won't mind if the 2027 car is a simple evolution of the current car. But I do think that to stand out, they will need very noticeable body kits for the different types of circuits that stand out more than the aero kits they use now. It shouldn't look bolted on, it should look like it was all meant to be there.
I think the current cars look good and more importantly they race well.
Have to say David, it is really cool seeing how far you have come in your RUclips journey covering the sport. Honestly Fox should bring you on in some capacity
I wish! David Land in the pits would be great, especially since he really is slowly taking the mantle of Robin Miller.
The way Josef speaks, he will have a massive career after racing.
All the need to do is pretty simple.
Open Engine regs, with a HP limit
Create a Box, W x H x L of the what the car's measurements should be (with hard set safety regs)
Let the teams figure the rest out
That's really it. The fact that these 3-Simple Steps aren't being done is the reason why Indycar hit it's ceiling.
Another excellent video 😎
My approach would be to have a common chassis with a common floor and tub but allow the teams to either build their own aerodynamic elements within a certain framework of rules or buy aerodynamic elements from Dallara.
Yes! This!
Um..what happened at 27:21?
Dentists HATE this
Ya lmao wtf was that
looks like David was recording the screen, rather than downloading the media day videos and editing those.
Dentists hate the car being too efficient aerodynamically (?)
@@Nathan_Ecker the dentists in IMSA do hate that
@DavidLand i have an idea for series or video you could do to show Indycar's history.
Lost championships Michael Andretti's 1992 season.
A history of the Andretti curse at Indy.
Michael Andretti was my driver when i watched CART and while everyone remembers the finish of the 1992 indy 500.. everyone forgets that Michael Andretti dominated that race before lap 189.
Nice hat David
I’m with Rahal and Dixon, fast and loud please! I miss the V8’s and their glorious roar🏁
Tied with lord Stanleys cup as greatest trophy!!
Personally, I’d like to see something like IMSA does with engine regulations. Find a horsepower limit that the majority is comfortable with then give the engine manufacturers more latitude within the rulebook to meet that horsepower requirement. In other words, allow for different types of engines to be utilized. I feel that this would make the series more attractive to potential engine manufacturers and the variety of engines would engage the fans more than the series does at the moment.
I think the pointy dart shaped cars of today look cool, but the low flat cars of the 90s look the best
27:26 was that ad trying to suggest that you point a high wattage laser at your teeth?
dentists are right to hate when you do this. i wish they could stop you
13:46 my wife has been asking about the position panel for years at every race we attend... I think it made things easier to watch for her.
David in his blooper era
The current car is full of great elements, but over the years the package looks more and more stitched together. They could integrate all these great elements (like the aero screen) into a coherent and lighter package, which needs to look quite different from formula 1 & 2. And as far as the drivetrain is concerned, they should make it more appealing to (new) constructors in the first place...
So, the pace car has more horsepower than the actual race cars? Kind of saying the quiet part out loud huh?
Pace car still isn't as fast as the current IndyCar.
Bring back the Reynards and Lola's. Those cars are way better looking than what they are running today by a mile.
As much as i like them technology progression Is a thing
As long as the new car has sidepods and does not have an overhead airbox..... I will be happy.
What's the problem with OH airbox
I agree with Rossi. No need to reinvent the wheel. I think the idea of drawing in fans with a super modern design is overstated. I think the risks of driving up costs for the teams, degrading the racing quality and dividing the current fan base are greater than the potential rewards that would be seen from an incremental increase in fans.
As far as what I'd like to see. I'd like to see it lighter, have better aero characteristics on the ovals and more freedom for teams to make their own aero changes. A small V8 would be cool, but I don't have an issue with the V6 so I could take it or leave it.
Being that it seems the 27 car design is 95% done (testing and manufacturing not included) I think just getting something out there is great. I would like to see a development timeline going to 2035 or beyond. I would like to see an energy BoP to open up the power-train back up.
Next car should look like 99/00' reynards...the players cars , kool green cars, marlboro penske cars, miller lite papis car..they are awesome cars..forget about a futurama type of car. I want a proper formula car.
Forget the cars, concentrate on the calendar! It should be 6 ovals, 6 road courses and 6 street races and rotate them in that order. Also get rid of that stupid private venue that had the most embarrassing race format in history last year!
Let other chassis manufacturers back into the sport.
Indy should make it possible for imsa GTP manufacturers to put their engines in the chassis. Then they balance out the power and weight.
I think they need to build a base car with a given wing area you must maintain and maybe allow them to shorten the wings but must match the wing area with added winglets. Allow them to try the shark fin again.
Honda gave Racer step by step instructions to attract more engine suppliers to IndyCar and instead Penske chose the DW27 because it is the cheapest thing they could come up with.
I think indycar could benefit from what IMSA has done with the regulations for the GTP cars. It’s amazing how many manufacturers have come in, as well as the differences between the cars, but all of them competitive on any given weekend. They obviously can’t copy those regulations, but doing something similar may allow for more variety while maintaining great racing.
2027 car pictures look like more of some kind of space vehicle vs. what an Indy Car should be open wheel.
Cause that's not the real One
I'm with Rossi, minor tweaks. Make it more about the drivers! Make it easy for the third OEM to bring a motor and personalities!
Lightweight, loud and brash engines with no hybrids. Low downforce, high suspension travel... let the manufacturers decide how their car works and runs. Thin rulebook, universal safety cell that the car is built around
I would love to see at least one or two OEM’s involved in the series however I don’t see it happening.
27:38 I wanted to hear about the new efficient heater, which is so powerful that big box retailers refuse to sell it!!!!!
As a newer full time fan, the racing was off the chain pre hybrids. Not been great afterwards
Honest question: what was the point of the Indycars going hybrid?
@@Montgomery_N_Pottichen04 Keeping Honda who said they weren't coming back after their contract runs out.
@@Montgomery_N_Pottichen04 To please Honda who said to do it or they are out.
@@Montgomery_N_Pottichen04trying to get with the times. But they were a full 10 years behind making the move. At this point they should have just stayed full ICE
As a consumer I don't mind electric, but I want my race cars loud and burning fuel.
Nobody watches e-racing.
Yeah I'm NOT watching Formula E or NASCAR's electric series!
Spot on .... as usual
I absolutely LOVE Graham’s comment. He is 100% spot on! “Authentic, LOUD, and fast”, along with the “sights, sounds, & smells”. Nobody wants to hear rolling tires & smell ozone produced from electric motors.
Great interviews! For the new cars, I would be curious how they can use hybrid more effectively. Also, I’m curious what everyone thinks of the hybrid they added mid season last year.
They should implement It like in WEC/IMSA
Cool Tigers hat.
Here’s one idea to float out there. What about variations on the high-airbox era of Formula 1 in the mid-‘70s? Give manufacturers the option of creating their own version so the “spec” series notion, at least chassis-wise, isn’t as obvious? They looked great coming at you at Long Beach in 1976, and could draw in fans new and old as something distinctive about formula car options.
Nice hat, ( I’m from Michigan ) I recently saw scale models of F1 cars from 1999 vs. 2024 setting next to one another, and it’s quite stark how HUGE the current F1 cars are now compared to only 10-15 years ago. This has made the cars harder to drive and much WIDER ( harder to overtake especially at Monaco ) Also the stupid air defectors on the front wheels render the F1 cars as no longer “open wheel” So I hope that the new Indycars don’t get too LARGE ( heavy with batteries ) Other than that, as long as we can see the ENTIRE WHEEL & TIRE on ALL FOUR WHEELS, from all sides of the car, I’ll be happy = NO FENDERS. The Marmon Wasp has NO FENDERS. That’s important. Ray Haroun would NOT have FENDERS. That’s important.
F1 Is shrinking in 2026 apart the Engine they are perfect ❤
Indy's niche is all the cars being the same, with the racing quality that this brings - there is no balance to be had. If I want to see the best driver in the best car win every race by 20 seconds I know where to go. Anything they can do to make the cars the same, the better.
It appears most drivers are for a lighter more powerful car. Possibly open the rules for some freedom with limited aero development. My preference would be to allow multiple constructors however at this juncture it’s not in the current scope.
I think all they need to do is have a louder engine and open up some development on the aero side if they could. Also, be a bit quicker
They need something that's a genuine challenge to drive at Indianapolis -- requiring the driver to back off for the turns in qualifying.
The current capacitor was a waste of money. The hybrid needs to be like WEC
Now not ditching indy car but any technology in indy came from F1.
F1 is technology driven which is the premise of F1. Automatic gear change was in F1 in 1990.
I think the car has to be wind tunnel testing and mechanical testing right now. They want this new car in 2027. For proper track testing, the car has to be done by the beginning of the 2026 season so they can get a full year of testing at all planned 2027 tracks. Otherwise, the car will have tons of issues going into 2027. Concept, design, engineering, development, manufacturing allocation, and testing take 4 to 5 years for production cars. Race cars are more complicated.
To me go conservative and integrate all the changes into a new chassis. The aero screen definitely changed the DW12. And I hope that it will allow for something bigger, just not 15 years later.
Look, I may be biased, but the Stanley Cup is the best trophy in sports. I will give the Borg-Warner a very close second. Both have amazing history and are leaps and bounds above the rest, but the nod goes to Lord Stanley's Cup.
The car needs to stop following what formula 1 does and become it's own brand. Smaller, lighter, louder. It needs to be the antithesis of the F1 car.
You still want an open wheeler right? I wish they follow the regulations of the WEC.
Hi David. Any word on who will be responsible for the early testing and development of the new car. Regardless of what firm the new car takes, if the early stage testing and development is carried out one of the existing teams (Penske or Ganasi as example) that would be a high advantage. Any talk of an independent organization and driver funded by IndyCar to do the testing?
Best product on track? I am guessing Rossi didnt see the chilibowl. Need to give a shout out to Santino, destroyed his car, came back with a midget that looked like an old twisted sister nascar and made a hell of a run with it.
The indycar series is basically a spec series, the new car just continues this
It is too bad that the series still has drivers that should be retired so young blood has a chance
CART days were the best. I hate hate hate the current cars.
I would like to see what a state of the art front engine Indy roadster would look like...Just to see...
I don't think IndyCar can ever be what it was chasing F1 philosophies. They'll never be able to live up to that. I get that we all live in the same reality. IndyCar has to appeal the same industry that F1 does. At this point though, they've lost. The realities of costs and being a north American series limit their ability to compete on this plane of "adding more voltage", as if thats just going to make the series magically more appealing. Instead I think they really need to think outside the box. Why not be the anti-f1? Embrace everything people wish F1 was, fix everything they loath about it. Make the cars loud. Control the wake. Etc. IndyCar already has something of a throwback identity anyways. We have a bunch of real road courses in rural areas, for example. Play up that nostalgia. Find a way to make it appealing to OEMs with sustainable fuels or some other bs like that. Who knows you might even attract some F1 purists and other fans longing for those glory days when the sport felt a little more raw and real.
Honestly F1 past years had a very good season, it's slightly in an upwarss trajectory
@@fqeagles21 the competition was great, I won't say I didn't enjoy it, but as @David Land can confirm, the visceral experience leaves something to be desired. I would much rather attend a race in the 1990's or 2000s, even with less competitive races.
I agree with Graham. I donno that electrification is the future...Especially in racing... imo fuels are more important in terms of "going green".
so better aero up front or all around, power steering, and improved weight balance.
Didn't Dixon said less aereo at the end?
Any chance of power steering ?
I hate this 'make the wheels bigger' trend. I like seeing the massive sidewall move and crinkle under the forces of the racecar. The big, grippy, wide tire makes me think of speed.
The reason they want the bigger wheels is essentially dumb car customers.. they want the tyres to look more similar to road tyres so they can say 'dur during motorsport researched tyres'
They being, honda, chevrolet.. any car company.
In reality anyone with half a brain understands a grooved all weather road tyre cant benefit in anyway from information gathered using a slick race tyre 😂😂😂
@ that argument at least makes sense for stock cars or sports cars, but no one thinks a formula car tire is going to be similar to their street car tire.
Reminder that it's only 7 months till the end of the 2025 Indycar season.
And about 6 weeks till the start
Yooo David super off-topic but do u know if able motorsports is going to field an Indy 500 entry this year? And do u know anything about Michael Cannon leaving Prima?
IMSA has done a fantastic job wooing manufactures. Indycar could learn from that
IMSA didn’t do much of that work most of it came from wec.
If the Cadillac V-Series R and Aston Martin Valkyrie can exist with V8 and V12s in the modern era so should Indycar. A good sound is one of the key components that can attract new fans, they can build the second coming of the red bull X, if the car has another bland V6 Hybrid it will be DOA.
Who was that guy interviewing people next to the BW Trophy?... The next Paul Page?
Josef's 18K yellow gold Daytona (O__o)!!!
What is that Detroit? Next time you're in Downers I've got a cap set aside for ya. If you don't have one already I think you'll like it.
In '26 it's going to be 50/50 between the i.c.e and hybrid system
Really simply man go back to the Cart cars Lola Reynard
The lack of streaming isn’t unless you have dish direct tv or a cable service witu be about $80 a month for like Hulu
Single spec engine, same displacement as F1. If the chassis can be built in America it should be.
If there was some way to introduce a multi-class system that might be worth investigating
Graham nailed it bang on!!!
Lighter more and power looks new and race like the DW12 on Streets & road corse. And race better on ovals. I say evolution of what we have
If the cockpit is going to be enclosed, why not just put fenders on it and call it Can-Am?
I want a Indycar 2017, short, lighter
I gonna see, we!
DENTISTS HATE WHEN DAVID DOESN'T HAVE RUclips + ULTIMATE PREMIUM EDITION!!!
The Indycar needs to stay an Indycar, of course.
I’ve said this since 2022: Dallara knows how to build the Haas F1 cars. Take that design as a base and work on the design to make it suitable for what IndyCar is and the tracks it goes to.
Dentists hate when you do this but can’t stop you. This new one hundred dollar.
To change the cars every 3 years will be too expensive for the current teams. Now if you’re ok with 20 cars like f1 that’s probably all you’ll have. You’ll have Penske, 3 , Ganassi 3, Andretti 3, Foyt 2, and who else would be able to spend the money , find sponsors that would support a non spec series. Need to have a blend of the CART series and the glory of the 70’s 80’s of oval racing
Indy is SO far past due for a new car it's not even funny.
What's wrong with this one? 🤔
@@karendarrenmclaren they've been around so many years, everything from the Aeroscreen to the hybrid system has been simply tacked on. That makes them heavier than they need to be. There have been numerous improvements in aero and suspension tech which could easily be incorporated in a new car. The result would be a more nimble, safer car which would be no heavier than the current one and potentially even lighter.
@johnbarker5009 what's the difference? Same body. Same ish engines. Simply more money... 🤔
@@karendarrenmclaren then why aren't they running roadsters with Offenhausers under the (front) hoods? Tech matters in racing. NASCAR Cup was forced to finally stop running the world's fastest 1967 Chevy pickups because they were at risk of losing their relevance.
@johnbarker5009 didn't understand. But okay
No boring spec. That’s what it should be in 2027.
SPEC is what is holding them back and why you don't see serious interest from top teams to enter IndyCar...
And who shall pay for that festival of innovations?
@@makb_the_striker the same mfers who pay millions of dollars on dampers, new multimillion dollar facilities and multi million dollar driver salaries.
@@makb_the_striker ummm fans...just like every other racing series.....oh wait...yeah IndyCar doesn't have fans, just people bored on a Sunday...so it will be teams paying for innovation TO WIN...but at a substantial cost to formula 1....
@@terenceramroop IndyCar audience is ± the same Formula E has. E limits the areas of innovations to software, electric motors and transmission. But still Formula E teams are unprofitable (as a series in general). So no, fans couldn't cover it. Even on F1 scale (most teams are unprofitable).
Back to basics. Looser rules on engines, transmissions, chassis, and body. Tires, rims, and brakes.
I'm fine with hybrid electric, should be like the hyper car. High horsepower like the 90s, with that wow factor that F1 can't hold a candle to. LOOKS wise, just a real muscular look, nothing like some euro car. Just make it tough, and cool. Current car is great, I think just update that. But I'll say this, it's a make or break for the series. An ugly car with a low horsepower engine will sink the series.
Open wheel should be flowing in aero not just do the american thing
Transferred from my ongoing ideals captured in my notes app.
GP1
- Carbon Fiber chassis
- 700kg 1650lbs wet, no fuel
- Integrated squared aero shield
- Removable aero shield wiper
- Power steering
- Electronic adaptive suspension
- Finely tuned aero package (road / oval)
- 16” front wheels for visibility and aero
- 17” rear wheel for optimum traction
- Carbon fiber body
- 120” wheelbase
Engines
- 2.0L inline 6
- CGI engine block
- Less material, narrower cylinder spacing
- Shorter overall engine block by 100mm
- Aluminum cylinder head
- Forged steel crankshaft
- Forged aluminum connecting rods
- Forged aluminum pistons
- Titanium valves
- Gear driven valve train
- Direct fuel injection
- Dry sump lubrication
- DOHC
- Twin turbos of specified diameters
- 48V starter generator
- Lithium battery
- Radiator exhaust fans
- Regulated boost maximum per track
- 800hp
- 6 speed sequential transmission
Engine Manufacturers
- Chevrolet
- Honda
- Toyota
Would be nice if they switch to the imsa/wec engine model. You already have established INDYCAR teams drivers techs etc with the crossover.
GM and Honda stay; BMW, Porsche, Lamborghini(Audi) to possibly come into INDYCAR. BMW just to me makes too much sense and Porsche fliers with F1 but has actually produced an Indy engine, along with also Mercedes via Illmor/Penske. Let me not get too deep down the rabbit hole but yeah. Just a fans thoughts.
Folks shldnt talk about things they arent sure about . Its just like fake news if your just speculating