SNS 334: Rockford Openside Shaper First Chips & Machine Tear-Down
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- Опубликовано: 5 фев 2025
- While spending a week at John Terry's shop with Lance and Keith, we set up Lance's Rockford shaper/planer machine, made a few cuts on it to figure out how it works and see what was wrong with it, then commenced to tearing it down for a complete rebuild. Lance will be having the machine ways on the base ground before going on further with the rebuild.
What I used to do when lifting with forks is to drill a hole through the forks and place a dowel through the hole (with a shoulder of course) to prevent the chains slipping off the fork. You boys could knock that up in 10 minutes. Fantastic project. I undid every bolt, levered every part and then some. Great job guys from Wales, over the pond.
I like it where people come together to work toward a goal and fellowship at the same time. Awesome.
if you dont understand why the 3 are together the bosses of machining wrong for you thanks abom Mr. Keith and Mr. Lance
Love seeing this old American iron being used and restored. Can't imagine how many of these old machines are sitting in warehouses going to waste. We had an old shaper with the WWII certification tag on it when I started machining but I never got to run it before they moved it out.
I’m watching this series with great interest as I’m from Rockford, IL. There is a LOT of old pride in this town for all the machines made here in it’s hayday.
Way cool video! Loved seeing three experienced machinists gathered around a battered old warhorse saying "We can rebuild it" and dreaming about fresh green paint, lovely scraped ways, shiny handwheels, and sub-thou accuracy. I know Keith gets all giggly around restoration projects! Thanks Adam!
You guys are remarkably clean for tearing apart that old machine that’s been sitting for years! Nice job!
Thank you John, for all that you have done for the boys and especially letting us watch. You are a good man!
It's Abom time on Saturday. Always a good time 👍🏼
2 things I look forward to on the weekends Abom79 on Saturday and my Chiefs on sunday👍
Amazing social/industrial history. You gents are all that is great about history. This was thrilling. I know nothing of machining but I love watching world class experts like you guys doing their thing. Thank you gents.
It's nice to see you Keith and Lance together again. All of you are phenomenal at what you do! Great job
Thanks! Was a fun week of working together.
Lance will be the Jay Leno of the machine tool world. :-)
He's going to need a bigger building.
Agreed
Great job guys ! I want to see it go back together and working. It will be new again. Thanks for sharing with us, Fred. 👍👍👏🏻👏🏻
there's simply nothing better then seeing old iron back in action, so much is wasted these days and newer equipment is just not built like the old stuff. great video.
I'm not even a machinist (but a carpenter) but I love this channel. Adam keep up the great work. I appreciate you sharing your knowledge with the world and making the time and effort to make all of these videos. A lot of people don't realize how much work there is once the camera stops recording. I can't believe I'm excited about seeing a piece of machinery I will probably never use in my life. Total geek.
The only bad thing about watching your channel. It makes me miss my old machine tools. Thank You for the videos. Great job.
I own a fastener manufacturing company in Rockford IL and I drive by the old Rockford Machine Tool Company plant everyday.
Great content from all. Thanks so much for letting us be with you all.
I really enjoyed watching You, John, Lance, Keith getting this old Rockford Shaper running... I also have a high interest in old machinery and the fun in getting them back running... In this digital world we live in now, all I see in new equipment is Digital computer design, it maybe amazing what they can do, but in old equipment I see craftsmen workmen ship and skill, the human touch.... Thanks for the Video...
What a Saturday treat, with Abom Adventures and Abom79! I love your videos, keep being you!
Such awesomeness...!
This reminds me of my father and I and my childhood home this is what my father and I did for many years.. we would pick up old used machines take them back to the house dismantle them go through them clean them up get them set up and then sell them.. there's a sense of pride that one has when being able to do such a project all that hard work pays off in the end great job guys and boy oh boy those duck breast and sausages made me hungry had to go get me some hot pockets and dream .. LOL!
Thanks guys..
Great video. 💯😎
Awesome collaboration. Keith is one of my heroes💪🏽💪🏽. Love you guys
Outstanding....Thank you for covering all this! It is truly wonderful to see you guys getting together and working on a worthwhile goal. Wish I could be there too!
Hey Adam! Getting to see your adventures in machining is a joy! Restoring tools is my favorite. For me its almost meditative. I can't imagine how exciting it must be to restore machines.
Two of my favorite machinist in one episode! Keith and Abom
I wish Lance had a channel too. He is a very interesting man.
@@crichtonbruce4329 yeah but youtube is a lot a lot of work. We are lucky abom and Keith feel like sharing and doing the work. I do alot of metal and lestherwork and I just don't have the energy
@@crichtonbruce4329 i agree hes a very interesting man, at the scraping class he was showing us how he plans to get his surface plate down to 20millionths all over, what I discovered is that he an i suffer from going down the rabbit hole syndrome when it comes to chasing precision lol. hes on instagram so you can keep up with what hes working on #lancebaltzley
What a great feeling, tear down n restore a worn out machine to live again 👍. When I got my first metal lathe ( Myford ML7 3 1/2” . Y.O.M 1950 ish by the serial number) it wasn’t in a working order, but within a week fully disassembled and rebuilt to good working order. It sure does give you a good feeling that lasts every time you use it. 🥰👍🍻
Your channel is a nice escape from our crazy world.
You guys were having just WAY too much fun.... good show.
Russ
Very nice work taking the machine apart. Now begins the monumental task of cleaning, renewing and reassembling it to get a running rebuilt machine operating again. Very Cool guys.
Love seeing these old machines being brought back to life. If they're anything like the tractor market these should be bringing top-dollar because all the new stuff is computer controlled and locked in to the manfacturer that can charge whatever they want to fix it or force it into obsolescence with the flick of a switch. No computers here, just cold steel that will run forever, properly maintained.
You, Squatch, and the guys from Acorn to Arabella are my absolute favourite RUclips craftsmen.
Thank you Adam I always enjoy watching your videos I am from South Africa 🇿🇦
Hey Abom79 im from Rockford Il. The screw capitol of the u.s. Im currently working at a screw machine shop, running an Acme Gridley 1 1/4 Rb8 making stems for hydraulic hoses. I really enjoy your content and you are a true craftsmen.
You & Keith Both have a outstanding channel on RUclips
Good deal! Looks like you guys were having fun with that teardown. Thanks for letting us stand over your labors.
Had that shaper in the Navy . Only it was a 48 inch bed . It was a fairly quiet machine .
Nice teardown... congratulations on making the old iron new again!
Brilliant stuff man great to see the old iron been keep alive.. making memories too
Great job taking it apart. Now will you remember how it all goes back together when you get the bed reground later. Good luck! I know it will look like new when it's finished.
That is what video and pictures are for.
I'm sure Keith would have the manual in his collection lol
Trenton and Heath sent me here, and I’m glad they did! Love your videos!
A ton of work done stripping, and it looks like a couple of days of cleaning and assessment, great video. Enjoyed, cheers to everyone!
Connecting three phase for correct rotation is always a 50/50 shot. For some reason it's 90/10 to be wrong for me. The story of my life.
Thanks for filming this Adam.
The three wise man of machinist. Great group
Playing Russian Roulette with a deadly pandemic .... not wise :(
Will you please put a c-clamp on the tip of the fork when you have the chain wrapped around it, to stop the chain from slipping off? Never know. Ive seen it needed. Great video.
I never thought of that. Thanks
I was puckered!
Adam is never very far from a BBQ grill. The man is serious about his eating.
Great video! Keith is like everyone's machine Dad! Again very to video
17:45 I used to work with hydraulics and the fact that it's not just spongy but springing forward at the end of the cut says there's air in the system. Also, I'm rather nervous about the damage that could be occurring in the hydraulics due to degraded fluid or contamination.
Sounds like cavitation
I've got to say, that is the biggest set of forklift forks I've ever seen! Kool to see Keith Rucker there as well.
I really liked where Lance and Keith were explaining how to measure the variations in the ways, (sliding surfaces) to what appeared to be younger students.
After the overwhelming you will have many more years of use from that machine.
Enjoyed the show.
Overhauling
@@andyb7963 yeah I know I have been helped out by the prediction text of my phone again. Lol
There's a 50/50 chance of the power being connected to run the correct direction and it will run the opposite of what you need 99% of the time.
Nice shaper. Good score Lance!
You have some talented friends.
Good team effort... Well done gentlemen...
Keith and Abom in the same video! *Head explodes* What a treat!
Lance scored some cool machines there in that purchase.
Colonial Machine Co worked over fifty years ago had two Rockford planers they use mainly for plaining mold bases
for plastic injection molds. They have a very smooth action but are very loud. Later I ran Gray planers that the table was driven by a large DC motor. They were much quieter.
Very cool seeing old iron like that in operation
That's my mom's hometown they make good tools back in the day and machines LOL keep on keeping an eye
This looks like a really awesome place just full of great stuff! This needs some kind of way covers made for it.
Great to see you and Keith hanging out together in the shop.
Would be better to see some masks and social distancing going on.
I hope you get to show it rebuilt to former glory👍
very love machine...thanks for your time
We recently scrapped a Rockford shaper just like that one at the shop I work at.
The hydraulics are noisy on that machine because of cavitation. The pump may be sucking air thru the inlet or shaft seal... or the oil is cold or to thick.
yep your correct richard king from the other end of the shop heard it and said the same thing just from the sound of it, once it was all gutted it was very clear its going to need all the hydraulics overhauling, i have a feeling Lance will be calling on Adams experience for that one!
It's an old machine and will need some repair. The hydraulics will be checked out and worked on as needed.
Your dad and grand dad must be VERY proud of you!
Enjoyed!! Cheers!! Great Video! Love the industrial sounds!!:-)!!
That looked like a good time!
Looks like things are shaping up!
Wow. The whole family is there.
real cool ... waiting for SNS 335 :-)
I suggest that you place two robust C-Clamps between the runs of the chains and the ends of the forks. That will prevent the load from dropping off unexpectedly. Pleas don't ask how I came up with this as it is far too embarrassing.
That is too cool! Love seeing old machines being restored and used by good guys. #becauseican
Would love to see how the bed will be ground down and machine restored..please post more...
That's what I call a good investment. They don't make things like they used to. Take one of these new machines and use it for 50 yrs and store it in a warehouse for 20 and see how well it will run when you dig it out. How many electrical servos and sensors would have to be replaced. There is something to be said for the over engineering ideals they placed on equipment. For the time things built to last. Good to see old iron saved to be used again. love all those mechanical drives, no new age computer electronics to go out on you.
just bought a ck monarch unloaded it Monday most machinist don't care if the machine runs or not they just work at a job like most welders don't own a welder trying my best to get the machine going fast found a few issues ugh common with old iron she will be a queen when i get it running
you are correct .
Filming that food was a dirty trick. I'll now blame my screwed up diet on you!!😜👍
Always looking forward to an Abom video on Sat after work_ nice
Will you be using the same pump or looking for something quieter with better flow, what other changes if any will you do ?
Adam did the heavy lifting .. and cooked the duck breast wrapped in bacon ..NICE !!!
I believe the pause before change direction, is to keep ware and damage down. The mass of weight instantly shifting direction is extremely hard on gears valves etc. The pause is a good thing!
They were talking about the pause when the cutter engaged, not at direction change.
That's a lot of work. If it was in my shop it would most likely never go back together ;-)
Would you have been able to shape the Stoker Engine if you had your openside shaper up and running?
Your job is wonderful. I would like to be part of the team. I am a mechanical assembler and have been working with racks for 12 years and have my own Biax40.
The last time i was down your way. We stopped at a little restaurant beside a gss station, they had great gator tail. Never ate duck before.
Looks like it's going to be a great tool
Awesome machine you need that Adam
Hey Adam, you’d better rush home and get the skyhook from your shop; it looks like it could really come in handy with that shaper restoration project! 😋
So that's where Keith Rucker hangs out. Slumming with Adam having a great time. Take it easy boys.
John Terry , Lance, Abom, Keith are good friends.
all video I was asking myself, if they work constantly with that heavy stuff there, why there is no crane on the ceiling?
Where did you guys find the machines you buy???? Thanks V
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Damn, sure would be fun to hang out with you boys!
FYI: The audio from 21:50 thru 38:33 was perfect. Excellent fidelity with zero distortion. Prior to 21:50 not so much. Hope this helps.
Hey Adam, we have seen you collect so many machines over the years which then get put away to be restored at some time in the future. Isn’t it about time for that future to arrive. You don’t do any interesting projects any more. Hour long videos showing you chase threads on some car parts are beneath you. How about something which really shows what you can do.
@@danrabenhorst2549 All the more reason to show interesting content.
Yep and the content that we do get is so sporadic.
Brilliant video and story. 2 months down the line............"so where did this piece come from" ?
Dear abom I am a big fan, in regards to your audio maybe what is happening is because the machinery itself causes so much noice it completely overwhelmeds your audio card that is my 2 cents cheers mate ur are awesome man thank u for sharing all ur knowledge God bless food sir
Adom Audio, noticed Keith's playing with his camera when problem came not someone elses set up interference cutting the audio out.
Steve
Great video! Somebody get Rucker some shorts. I could barely recognize him lol.
-Will
Magnifique machines pour comprendre les mécanismes.
Merci pour votre pédagogie.
B. Rooman à Bruxelles.
Mr. A bomb is also a hell of a good cook, made my mouth water
You definitely have the best video entry music.
Hahaha that smile introducing his shaper :D