091 - Invasion of Crete: a Bloody Mess - WW2 - May 23 1941

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  • @charlesinglin
    @charlesinglin 4 года назад +901

    German officer: "We don't reinforce failure." General Freyburg: "We don't reinforce success."

    • @harrycurrie9664
      @harrycurrie9664 4 года назад +6

      So who was it that Freyberg asked for reinforcements from ? How can Freyberg be responsible for the failure of others ? he was obviously told to keep the airfield open for that purpose but as is stated his troops were short on ammunition and under a lot of stress waiting.

    • @quattuorperquattuor1711
      @quattuorperquattuor1711 4 года назад +60

      @@harrycurrie9664 yeah, like paratroopers had tons of ammo and stress-free relaxed attitudes. Come on, put the blame where it is deserved. Churchill ordered Freyberg not to alert the Nazis to teh Ultra secrets, so he could not officially announce the invasion and reinforce the airfields, but he could still have planned counter attacks and defended the airfields anyway. He outnumbered the Germans 10:1, and still lost. Even Percival in Singapore was only undernumbered 3: or 4: to 1. Without a doubt, Freyberg was the worst Empire general in 250 years of history, and many bad ones.

    • @Wustenfuchs109
      @Wustenfuchs109 4 года назад +25

      @@quattuorperquattuor1711 Yeah, that is why he was knighted, promoted and praised for his divisional command, because the empire often rewarded the worst generals in its history, right? Because that's the way you get to own 25% of the planet Earth. Yes, he could have defended the airfields better - but you need to realize one thing - never in history, before or since, was an invasion done by airborne troops only. ALWAYS, the invader would have the main force coming and airborne was in the support role.
      That is why he kept the reserves near the possible landings instead of going for the enemy paratroopers. Just like in Norway, paratroopers would land and take the airfields, but the main problem were amphibious landings - they were the ones that would bring the most troops, heavy equipment and supplies. He waited for those - because sending paratroopers alone was, and is, considered a suicide.
      So even when the intelligence reported that it will be an air-only invasion, he had every right to dismiss that as a mistake - which happened A LOT when military intelligence was in question. Even until the end of the war.
      In a mind of a commander it made no sense and he had every right to believe that the naval landing would come. It always did, before and after that.
      That ONE TIME IN HISTORY, it didn't. He was tricked. So that made Freyburg, a man praised by his superiors, who had only that one defeat in his military history that included service in both World Wars, "the worst Empire general in 250 years of history"?
      How infantile do you have to be to even think that, let alone say it.

    • @charlesinglin
      @charlesinglin 4 года назад +6

      @@harrycurrie9664 I was actually referring to Maleme where they had the Germans all but beaten, then had to withdraw because they couldn't be reinforced. Not placing blame as much as pointing out the irony.

    • @harrycurrie9664
      @harrycurrie9664 4 года назад +4

      @@quattuorperquattuor1711 Perhaps I should have used the word pressure not stress. As for Churchill he had been trying to cull the NZers off since he landed them at the wrong place in Turkey during the 1st world war, to instruct them not to install defences because the Germans my realise we had their codes just heaped the pressure on the NZers. He asked for reinforcements and got none, who was it he asked ? So he had a counter attack planed but the reinforcements in the form of an Australian battalion arrived 2 hours after the start time. He did defend the airfields … and very well if you consider the mauling the Germans took, enough for Hitler to never use paratroopers again. The 10/1 sounds a bit BS to me but it should also be considered that Freyberg had to defend the whole island and couldn't concentrate his forces in areas that were known as German targets because of Churchills directions.

  • @perfectlyfine1675
    @perfectlyfine1675 4 года назад +721

    There's no better feeling than understanding what the hell Indy is talking about on the phone before watching the episode.

    • @laithaltawil8806
      @laithaltawil8806 4 года назад +57

      Yes, whenever I understand what he is talking about I feel like I am the smartest human on earth 😂😂😂

    • @hannahskipper2764
      @hannahskipper2764 4 года назад +2

      Oh yeah!!

    • @maxjiro25
      @maxjiro25 4 года назад +2

      amen

    • @thathistoryiscoolguy
      @thathistoryiscoolguy 4 года назад +4

      I agree

    • @SpyGeorgilis
      @SpyGeorgilis 4 года назад +34

      ...unless you're actually from Crete, as I am, in which case understanding what he's talking about is like looking at a car crash... of your own car.

  • @Kate31415
    @Kate31415 4 года назад +593

    On this week in 1941 my grandmother's brother died defending Crete. He was an AA gunner who was declared missing on 23rd May, and was believed to have been killed in a pre invasion Stuka raid close to the coast. His whole body was never recovered, however his belongings are buried under a war memorial in my village.
    I thank you for the time and effort you put into these videos. It's important that future generations learn about history's greatest mistakes and don't repeat them.

    • @jayjayson9613
      @jayjayson9613 4 года назад +22

      May he Rest In Peace, as a Greek myself all I can do is pray for his soul.
      Be well.

    • @christopherfritz3840
      @christopherfritz3840 4 года назад +10

      While in college in 1983 I visited England. We were given rail travel passes and encouraged to "go out and explore!". So off I went essentially out to 'somewhere'. Anyway I tromped around and walked into this little village and was amazed that they had a fairly large memorial right there in the middle! Wow. WW1. Quite a number of lads listed. THAT.. is England...

    • @DomiAngel
      @DomiAngel 4 года назад +18

      My grandmother was born and raised at Heraklion. She was a teenager at the time of the invasion. She is still alive!

    • @jayjayson9613
      @jayjayson9613 4 года назад +7

      @@DomiAngel God Bless her! If possible, I hope you were able to talk to her about what life was like then.

    • @Kate31415
      @Kate31415 4 года назад +5

      ​@@christopherfritz3840 There are many things like that in the UK. There are also lots of War Memorial Clubs, including one in my village. Essentially pubs but with a membership system, where sports like darts or snooker are played, people also hold functions there like birthdays, weddings or funeral wakes. On the wall there is a list of local people who died in the 1st and 2nd world war. As people pass by for their night of sport or fun or remembrance, it's the tradition to take your hat/beanie off and tap the list on the wall out of respect. There are so many monuments too. Part of what I do for a living is protecting them from graffiti or vandalism using cctv systems.

  • @jollybritishchap485
    @jollybritishchap485 4 года назад +1584

    British Intelligence: Okay so the Germans are coming by air to very specific locations. Please ensure strong air defence and mobile units to mop up any who slip through the cracks.
    Bernard Freyberg: So, what you're telling me is that I need to prepare for a Naval invasion?
    British Intelligence: What!? No! Prepare your air defences!
    Bernard Freyberg: Understood. Soldiers! Man the Coastline!

    • @skalderman
      @skalderman 4 года назад +59

      perhaps he had not seen a parachute before

    • @Raskolnikov70
      @Raskolnikov70 4 года назад +97

      Now I see where the Monty Python troupe got their inspiration.

    • @classicalcarpenter4297
      @classicalcarpenter4297 4 года назад +49

      Yes, he had the intelligence, BUT, his hands were tied! ULTRA was too valuable to let the Germans know we had it. What would have happened if the Germans had invaded, and, everything was prepared to receive them. Commonwealth prisoners would have said “we knew you were coming”. German counter intelligence (Abwehr) would have started to put things together - we let the Germans bomb Coventry, because to do otherwise would have given the game away.
      Now you could argue that you have plan B & C in place…but the real point is that Greece was a waste of time and great resources (British and ANZAC troops), again Churchills inference as grand strategy master (remember the Dardanelles) failed. We should not have been there, we should have left the ANZAC troops and their precious resources in north Africa where they would have done more good.
      In the backwater of the war, the British Royal Navy had three cruisers and six destroyers sunk, and 16 more ships including an aircraft carrier badly damaged. Too high a price to be paid, when they should have been running supplies to Malta and savaging German supply lines. But such is second sight. But that is what we pay generals to have, NO.
      By the way Frieberg had a VC or to give him his full title; Lieutenant General Bernard Cyril Freyberg, 1st Baron Freyberg, VC, GCMG, KCB, KBE, DSO and THREE BARS!!!

    • @petemagnuson7357
      @petemagnuson7357 4 года назад +22

      Sir, the enemy is actively taking an airfield. Should we resist them?

    • @gwtpictgwtpict4214
      @gwtpictgwtpict4214 4 года назад +90

      @@classicalcarpenter4297 But British and Commonwealth forces were everywhere the Germans landed, yet the Germans didn't make the connection you suggest. Freyberg's error was in not supporting the New Zealanders defending Maleme. The German plan was dependent on capturing an airfield, if the defenders of Maleme had been reinforced rather than allowed to retreat , and I think their CO was also at fault for making that request, then the further German assault waves would also have been battered. The loss of Crete was due to failures at senior command level.

  • @vault311
    @vault311 4 года назад +656

    Legends say that general Freyberg is still waiting for the seaborn invasion.

    • @lukasbaral5108
      @lukasbaral5108 2 года назад +9

      2 years later can confirm he is still waiting

  • @steliosarvanitis5606
    @steliosarvanitis5606 4 года назад +492

    As a Cretan, to the aussies and the kiwis who lost relatives here, a "thank you" is far to small.

    • @jvomkrieg
      @jvomkrieg 4 года назад +44

      Legend has it in NZ, that if you go to Crete and say your a Kiwi, the locals treat you far better than they do any other type of tourist.

    • @keepitsteel1993
      @keepitsteel1993 4 года назад +26

      Englishmen died there too.

    • @steliosarvanitis5606
      @steliosarvanitis5606 4 года назад +39

      @@keepitsteel1993 true, totally true, but kiwis and Australians died half a world away.

    • @jvomkrieg
      @jvomkrieg 4 года назад +5

      @@steliosarvanitis5606 Yeah they did. My great uncles were not at Crete, they arrived a little later and fought in Egypt. But that was the weird thing. Japan was loose in the pacific, and here we were, fighting in Africa and Europe. (Grandad was a radio navigator on the Harvards, which patrolled NZ waters from the air, so never deployed overseas)

    • @nielsmosbak1051
      @nielsmosbak1051 4 года назад +3

      @@keepitsteel1993 Oh yes they did indeed. But they also started the Greek Civil War - and that is a story for another time, after the greek resistance forced the germans out.

  • @SuperTamaru
    @SuperTamaru 4 года назад +634

    This week is summed up as the Allied version of Conrad von Hötzendorf trying to defend an island against a naval invasion that doesn't exist.

    • @Danox94
      @Danox94 4 года назад +55

      some say Freyberg's ghost is still waiting

    • @iseeyou1312
      @iseeyou1312 4 года назад +72

      Honestly, even Conrad von Hötzendorf would have won on Crete.

    • @kimok4716
      @kimok4716 4 года назад +5

      To which events are you referring to ?

    • @tihomirrasperic
      @tihomirrasperic 4 года назад +2

      that british general must go in same school as Boris Johnson

    • @brotlowskyrgseg1018
      @brotlowskyrgseg1018 4 года назад +82

      I won't let you disparage our boy Hötzendorf like that. He would have have immediately prepared a counter offensive at Maleme, even though it wasn't winter and the terrain not as mountainous as he would have preferred.

  • @stevekaczynski3793
    @stevekaczynski3793 4 года назад +434

    Some if not all of the Cretan civilians in the picture at 9:00 were shot as partisans by the Germans shortly after. I think the old guy with the white beard was one of them. This was one of the first of a series of pictures taken by a Luftwaffe photographer, including of the shootings. They were not published by the Germans during the war but were discovered postwar.

    • @djfiore7103
      @djfiore7103 4 года назад +19

      That's a rare reaction of the German to an agresive population...
      No they do it all the time, and just wait to see the future partisan war that is coming. That's gonna be a bloody mess.

    • @chaosXP3RT
      @chaosXP3RT 4 года назад +4

      THE ALLIES KILL MILIONS! THEY ARE SATANISTS

    • @RedDragon052
      @RedDragon052 4 года назад +14

      Webpage with the full set of photos: www.fallschirmjager.net/Bundesarchiv/Kondomari/Kondomari.html

    • @mercomania
      @mercomania 4 года назад +13

      So civilians killing German soldiers is OK, but then shooting "partisans" is a crime?

    • @andresmartinezramos7513
      @andresmartinezramos7513 4 года назад +54

      @@mercomania Shooting partisans is neither a crime nor it is bad. What is bad and what the Germans did was indiscriminately shoot, hang and murder in reprisal and at a 1:10 ratio if not more.

  • @markosgraveyard
    @markosgraveyard 2 года назад +12

    My grandfather never spoke much of what happened in those times, but he was a 12 year old kid during this invasion and he was there. God rest the souls of those who helped overcome the Nazi regime! Their sacrifice will never be forgotten

  • @benchapman3788
    @benchapman3788 2 года назад +10

    My Great Grandad died on HMS Gloucester during the invasion of Crete so thank you for covering this topic

    • @WorldWarTwo
      @WorldWarTwo  2 года назад +2

      Thank you for watching & remembering him here, Ben. May your Great Granddad rest in peace.

  • @DietrichvonSachsen
    @DietrichvonSachsen 4 года назад +574

    Of all the bumbling commanders we've seen in this war so far, Fryberg's incompetence is genuinely shocking. At least to me.

    • @anenglishmanabroad
      @anenglishmanabroad 4 года назад +136

      It says a lot about the British establishment at the time that he was promoted and given a knighthood after Crete.

    • @davethompson3326
      @davethompson3326 4 года назад +49

      @@anenglishmanabroad Commonwealth politics He was the senior NZ officer & a VC, so having him shot probably wasn't an option

    • @marks_sparks1
      @marks_sparks1 4 года назад +38

      His leadership at the Third Battle of Monte Cassino was less than inspiring. His only contribution was advocating for the bombing of the Abbey whose ruins were used by the fallschirmjäger to make it a charnel house for NZ troops.

    • @stevekaczynski3793
      @stevekaczynski3793 4 года назад +5

      @@marks_sparks1 To be fair, most British and Commonwealth servicemen favoured the bombing, as they thought the Abbey was being used for artillery observation, although apparently the Germans did not in fact use it in this way.

    • @Nekromageofapocalyp
      @Nekromageofapocalyp 4 года назад +13

      Huntziger is still in the lead (at least until Barbarosa)

  • @PilgrimEnge
    @PilgrimEnge 4 года назад +133

    When I visited Crete last year, I found a small local monument in honor of the dead local civilians who were punished by the Nazi after the invasion was completed.

    • @ΚωνσταντίνοςΓκίκας-τ1μ
      @ΚωνσταντίνοςΓκίκας-τ1μ 4 года назад +8

      Sadly many civilians were killed by the Nazis after the battle.

    • @PilgrimEnge
      @PilgrimEnge 4 года назад +8

      @@ΚωνσταντίνοςΓκίκας-τ1μ surely in response to the resistance they put up on the invasion day. The Greeks at the mainland weren't particularly mistreated, were they? (I'm not sure about this)

    • @ΚωνσταντίνοςΓκίκας-τ1μ
      @ΚωνσταντίνοςΓκίκας-τ1μ 4 года назад +32

      @@PilgrimEnge after the following battle many civilians will die especially from hunger under the German occupation. In Athens it was common to see dead people in the streets.

    • @WorldWarTwo
      @WorldWarTwo  4 года назад +74

      There were many massacres in later years during the Resistance

    • @PilgrimEnge
      @PilgrimEnge 4 года назад +2

      @@WorldWarTwo assuming this will be assuredly be made note off when the time comes

  • @gianniverschueren870
    @gianniverschueren870 4 года назад +625

    There's a lot going on with this tie, Indy. 3.5/5

    • @gianniverschueren870
      @gianniverschueren870 4 года назад +32

      Ps, I can't WAIT for your Bismarck operation next week.

    • @existentialgoberts4345
      @existentialgoberts4345 4 года назад +5

      We need more tie reviews
      Also, if you want to see something magnificent look for Don Cherry, the old Toronto hockey coach, and his suits

    • @indianajones4321
      @indianajones4321 4 года назад +3

      @Gianni Verschueren If you’ve seen the show Community, Indy always seems to have the vibe of Señor Chang entering the paintball war

    • @le_travie7724
      @le_travie7724 4 года назад +3

      Lol loving these tie reviews. Keep them up

    • @project22-ab88
      @project22-ab88 4 года назад

      How is this 3 days ago if the video was posted 2 hours ago

  • @ArtrexisLives
    @ArtrexisLives 4 года назад +535

    Operation Mercury feels like a microcosm of the war so far: Despite German failures in operational secrecy/intelligence/logistics, they still get the win due to individual drive, overwhelming force, and Allied command incompetence + mediocre support.

    • @kanedakrsa
      @kanedakrsa 4 года назад +14

      Freyberg gets his during battleaxe. Big time.

    • @thalassinosmitsou3806
      @thalassinosmitsou3806 4 года назад +2

      It's simple. 1 person was fighting 5 germans, there was no way to win

    • @Ricky_ASMR
      @Ricky_ASMR 4 года назад +8

      @@kanedakrsa mhhh battleaxe was an Axis win, the brits lost half their tanks in Day1 and achieved only 1 of their 3 objectives. u might want to rethink ur statement

    • @kanedakrsa
      @kanedakrsa 4 года назад +5

      @@Ricky_ASMR Freyberg's divison gets surrounded and destroyed. Read a book before you suck on your own foot

    • @eljanrimsa5843
      @eljanrimsa5843 4 года назад +27

      That analysis cuts both ways: British mediocrity survives to fight another day, because they do not commit when they don't have an advantage. One day the Germans will have won so many fights that they'll have to decide where to take a step back and consolidate or they'll stretch themselves too far. Will they choose wisely?

  • @nooneofinterest234
    @nooneofinterest234 4 года назад +375

    Bruh why is this man so stubborn, IT WAS LITERALLY RAINING GERMANS AND STILL HE DID NOTHING.

    • @KiwiImperialist
      @KiwiImperialist 4 года назад +22

      Because the amphibious invasion was perceived to be the greater threat? British intelligence indicated that two divisions would support the airborne operation with a seaborne assault (5th Gebirgs and 22nd Luftlande). In reality, only the 5th Gebirgs Division was assigned to Crete. Their boats were intercepted by the Royal Navy, an outcome which was never assured. British forces at sea were low on anti-aircraft ammunition and had to partially withdraw during the invasion. Those that remained were hit hard. The cruisers Gloucester and Fiji were sunk by air attack, while the battleship Valiant was struck with two bombs.

    • @andrepinto1131
      @andrepinto1131 4 года назад +41

      he was busy singing "It's raining men"

    • @harrycurrie9664
      @harrycurrie9664 4 года назад +2

      What didn't he do ? He had so little resources … even accurate British accounts of the battle say so.

    • @DuLzzPKC
      @DuLzzPKC 4 года назад +2

      @@andrepinto1131 ahhahahahahhahahah

    • @somethingelse4878
      @somethingelse4878 4 года назад +2

      German rain by Adolf zonday

  • @jamestheotherone742
    @jamestheotherone742 4 года назад +45

    One thing I love about this series is that you get a real sense of just how fast events were flowing during the war. You don't get that from books. Hope you're doing well Indy and crew.

  • @DomiAngel
    @DomiAngel 4 года назад +20

    My 94 year old grandmother was at Heraklion during the invasion. It is amazing that I get to hear stories about the invasion and the following occupation from a person who lived through those dark times. Her father was actually executed by the Germans along with a lot of the men of the village as retaliation for something she doesn't even remember.

  • @ao394
    @ao394 4 года назад +92

    There is an urban legend in Crete. Since the Nazi's invassion caught the locals without any actual weapons, they sworn that this will not happen again. Over the years they have gathered a lot of guns and ammo, so much in fact that they say as a joke that if somebody took it all from them at once, the whole island would rise from the sea 5cm because of the lost weight!

    • @WorldWarTwo
      @WorldWarTwo  4 года назад +45

      Of course the hemp plantations in some places are irrelevant to the firearms-at-home tradition ;)

    • @ao394
      @ao394 4 года назад +16

      @@WorldWarTwo Although the firearms-at home-tradition begun long before the plantations, you are right... When the plantations needed "protection" these kind of collections proved to be quite useful! :) :)

    • @ΑΡΗΣΚΟΡΝΑΡΑΚΗΣ
      @ΑΡΗΣΚΟΡΝΑΡΑΚΗΣ 4 года назад +4

      @@WorldWarTwo those plantations are for olive sheets... To increase the olive oil price to 420€¢ per kg! ;)

    • @brucetucker4847
      @brucetucker4847 4 года назад +3

      And then people wonder why the US has the Second Amendment. As Rick said in Casablanca, there are parts of this country where the Nazis would have been ill-advised to try to invade.

    • @SusCalvin
      @SusCalvin 4 года назад

      A lot of the powers in post-WW II Europe look at the lessons in partisan warfare for how to build stay-behind and partisan doctrines for use against soviet invasions.
      One of them is to do exactly what you describe but on a state level. You build up little depots out in the forest. Enough for the local Home Guard/militia platoon to blow up a train junction or bridge.

  • @ajeetsmann
    @ajeetsmann 4 года назад +110

    The locals fighting the Germans had more competency than the British general charged with protecting them...

    • @merdiolu
      @merdiolu 4 года назад +11

      Freyberg was actually a very good division commander won several hard won victories in North Africa and Italy between 1941-1945. (except Crete and Monte Cassino) but as corps commander or garrison command of large number of troops he was hopelessly out of his depth

    • @stevekaczynski3793
      @stevekaczynski3793 4 года назад +3

      It's their country and they know it. Freyberg was a foreigner there today, gone tomorrow.

    • @SusCalvin
      @SusCalvin 4 года назад +1

      This shows a lot of the weaknesses with airborne assaults as well. These falschirmjäger elite troops face third-line militia or a tank and start to take a beating from them.

    • @stephenwood6663
      @stephenwood6663 4 года назад +5

      @@SusCalvin As the Japanese proved in the Phillipines, a tank - even a bad tank - is a game-changer if the enemy doesn't have a tank or serious anti-tank weaponry of their own.

    • @stevekaczynski3793
      @stevekaczynski3793 4 года назад +3

      @@stephenwood6663 And in Malaya. Japanese tanks were small and lightly-armoured and would have been slaughtered in Europe, but confronting opponents who had no tanks at all and no decent anti-tank facilities, they were game changers.

  • @dinofelis9343
    @dinofelis9343 4 года назад +22

    My Great Uncle was a member of the Fallschirmjägers and was supposed to take part in the invasion of Crete but at the last moment he was recalled because of an injury. That injury most likely saved his life.

  • @spargios
    @spargios 4 года назад +39

    I lost a great deal of my family during the resistance of Crete, still have our old house in the mountain riddled with bullet holes by machineguns

  • @Karottenregen
    @Karottenregen 6 месяцев назад +2

    My great uncle fought in crete as a german paratrooper. He got wounded but survived. By the end of the battle he recived the iron cross 2nd class and the black wounded medal in crete. He also fought in the east against the soviets and was captured in 1942, he was captured and was held in a gulag until 1956 and had to get back to germany on foot. He arrived home in 1957

  • @Gameflyer001
    @Gameflyer001 4 года назад +74

    This week, German paratroopers invade Crete.
    The Cretans' response? "THIS IS CRETE!"

    • @magnikos3851
      @magnikos3851 4 года назад +2

      Μονο ελληνας θα σε καταλαβει

  • @steliospolychronakis8740
    @steliospolychronakis8740 4 года назад +27

    I have read in a couple of very informative first-hand accounts, from memoirs of NZ and Australian soldiers that they detested the way their high-command handled the situation in Crete. To make matters worse for the Greek forces fighting along side them and the Cretan population helping them, Freyberg never bothered to inform the Greeks when he decided to retreat. In fact he didn't even tell the Australians fighting in Rethymno, who had to surrender to the Germans.

    • @lhaviland8602
      @lhaviland8602 4 года назад +2

      Oh wow that's even worse. _What the actual flipping fuck, Freyburg?_

  • @Jodonho
    @Jodonho 4 года назад +186

    The Cretans were not friendly.

    • @alexandrosnaoum1318
      @alexandrosnaoum1318 4 года назад +70

      There is a joke. Cretans are known for carrying weapons especially in the villages. Also are known being hot-temper. So the joke is that when the Germans arrived the Cretans tried to offer Raki (local drink bit similar to vodka) and they said: Nien nien and the Cretans, offended, they response, what Nay nay? What are you say? Bang! (shooting with a gun) :D

    • @VangelisKontogeorgakos
      @VangelisKontogeorgakos 4 года назад +2

      @Polemarch Raki > Tsikoudia

    • @stevekaczynski3793
      @stevekaczynski3793 4 года назад +2

      It was another Abwehr screw-up - the Abwehr reported that the Germans would be welcomed in Crete. Ironically Freyberg failed because he disbelieved his intelligence reports, while the Germans did not lose but found themselves in a bad situation because they believed an intelligence report that proved to be wrong.

    • @macarthur2863
      @macarthur2863 4 года назад +6

      Mou aresei pou Tha tous kalodexondan

    • @macarthur2863
      @macarthur2863 4 года назад +2

      @Αθηναίος Οπλίτης ta kalutera dwra

  • @8thLegio
    @8thLegio 4 года назад +14

    Great episode! My great grandfather Gordon Hawkins was in the 16th Brigade of the 6th Australian Division, the 2/1st Battalion which was one of the first infantry battalions raised as part of the all-volunteer Second Australian Imperial Force at the start of World War II. He was captured and ended up in the real Stalag XIII

  • @speedydb55
    @speedydb55 4 года назад +94

    Max Schmeling: "Ach! I'd rather go another round with Joe Louis than be in this fiasco of an invasion!"

    • @GeorgeSemel
      @GeorgeSemel 4 года назад +9

      I did not know that he had Jumped on Crete! And to live thru that and the Second World War, one of the very few German Paratroopers to do so.

    • @voiceofraisin3778
      @voiceofraisin3778 4 года назад +2

      @@GeorgeSemel Sergeant in a mortar platoon, he didnt do a lot of fighting, he was medically unfit and captured, then released by the surrender. He was then removed from combat duty so there would be no bad PR if he was killed and spent the rest of the war doing physiotherapy for German casualties.

  • @LaRotte1234
    @LaRotte1234 4 года назад +56

    Cretans smashing heads with rocks n stuff. It's worth to read those stories

    • @harris4927
      @harris4927 4 года назад +5

      Yeahh, if they're invading your island and u have no guns, u take rocks sticks and whatever u find. Besides, the atrocities the Germans did to generally Greece can't even be compared

    • @ΤόλιςΓραμματόπουλος
      @ΤόλιςΓραμματόπουλος 4 года назад +2

      The most gruesome thing Cretans actually did during the invasion was climbing trees and impaling with farmers' tools from there the german parachuters before they could even land in greek soil!

  • @elwin38
    @elwin38 4 года назад +33

    Xavia, Kriti!! Had the privilege of visiting there in May, 2006. Served in the Naval Reserve at nearby Souda Bay for 2 weeks.

    • @russellshaw8479
      @russellshaw8479 4 года назад

      Did you do any jogging there?

    • @elwin38
      @elwin38 4 года назад +1

      @@russellshaw8479 No...but i did do some rock climbing. went down in one of the many ravines and climbed back up. Saw some caves and a couple of small lakes. Good work out.

  • @kennethbedwell5188
    @kennethbedwell5188 4 года назад +166

    You’re prone to defeat when your generals are still fighting the last war.

    • @russellshaw8479
      @russellshaw8479 4 года назад +3

      Very profound statement. Even if it is not original, I like it. 😊

    • @basicpigeonbee
      @basicpigeonbee 4 года назад +7

      He's not fighting the last war, he's just a fucking idiot

    • @xaviersaavedra7442
      @xaviersaavedra7442 4 года назад +2

      Cxxvii
      Y’up
      Even the civilian militia are more competent than him.

    • @kennethbedwell5188
      @kennethbedwell5188 4 года назад

      @@basicpigeonbee No, he did not take Airpower into account

    • @zynarax
      @zynarax 4 года назад +1

      @@kennethbedwell5188 He also ignored pleas from his own troops for reinforcements... AND he was ignoring the current attack expecting a naval attack to happen even when all evidence suggested it wasn't going to, so yes he's just an idiot.

  • @SuperLusername
    @SuperLusername 4 года назад +50

    *Exam season coming*
    - "So he knows they are coming? So he's gonna be prepared for them, right?"
    - "No? Why no?"

    • @iainhunneybell
      @iainhunneybell 4 года назад +1

      Evilsamar, read my comments and you’ll understand why. Very easy for armchair Generals that don’t understand the bigger picture

    • @SuperLusername
      @SuperLusername 4 года назад

      @@iainhunneybell what?

    • @iainhunneybell
      @iainhunneybell 4 года назад

      @@SuperLusername, my other comment...
      Oh, so he know where and when they’re coming so he’s going to have lots of troops there, right? Oh he didn’t, what an idiot ... or was he? Sit down and learn the bigger picture...
      Yes the Brits knew the date, time and location of the invasion, and by the way, ‘Chania’ is pronounced ‘Haa-nia’, not ‘Char-nia’...
      Yes the British commander wanted to redeploy troops to best repulse the invasion, but this is where a slightly bigger context is required. The British knew these details via Bletchley and breaking Enigma. However, there was no other viable source of information to support the redeployment of troops and so Churchill refused permission to redeploy as ‘everyone being in the right pace at the right time’ would demand the question from the Germans; So how did they know? If this resulted in the Germans altering Engima and so the Brits losing access to German communiqués, the detriment to the war effort would be far greater that the loss of Crete, and so it was an informed decision to deliberately not redeploy forces as the consequence of the redeployment would likely be far worse than the loss even of Crete.
      So if you understand the bigger context you get a very different picture.

    • @SuperLusername
      @SuperLusername 4 года назад +2

      @@iainhunneybell dude...I made a joke about the exam season coming and you went off on a tangent

  • @LoneWanderer727
    @LoneWanderer727 Год назад +3

    It's stunning how people can completely disregard intelligence provided to them and destroy any chance of victory by such incompetence. So many military catastrophes in history can be attributed to a lack of intelligence, or a commander disregarding that which they have in front of them.

  • @Duke_of_Lorraine
    @Duke_of_Lorraine 4 года назад +69

    Cold climate uniforms to attack Crete in late spring...
    Conrad : "of course that didn't work, what did you expect ?! BTW only prepare summer uniforms for that invasion of Russia"

    • @stevekaczynski3793
      @stevekaczynski3793 4 года назад +9

      More temperate climate uniforms than cold weather ones. But this will not be the last time German troops are inappropriately dressed in 1941.
      It was 34 degrees centigrade in Athens a few days ago. It may have been a little cooler than that in Crete in May 1941 but no wonder the Germans were dehydrated...

    • @Raskolnikov70
      @Raskolnikov70 4 года назад +3

      I wonder how much of this was due to the German economy. Germany probably had to import a lot of their clothing fibers and weren't always flexible when it came to switching production to what they needed at the time. There's a long lead time from "here's what we need now" to when you're able to produce it and ship it to the front line soldiers. And it wasn't likely the Germans had a huge backstock of uniforms they could just issue as needed.

    • @aftastosk6016
      @aftastosk6016 4 года назад +1

      @@stevekaczynski3793 no comparison Athens today is has at least 3-4 degrees of peak temperature even from Crete because 7 million people are living in a Forrest of cement trapped between these mountains (parnitha, penteli, ymmitos)

    • @stevekaczynski3793
      @stevekaczynski3793 4 года назад +2

      @@Raskolnikov70 They prepared desert uniforms for the Afrika Korps, and these were in wide use in the Mediterranean. German occupation troops in Greece and Crete and possibly Yugoslavia wore them later, and in the Italian campaign it was fairly common for both sides to mix and match desert uniforms with temperate ones. For example I have seen a photo of a captured German lieutenant in Italy. He has a desert zone peaked cap and tunic, and temperate zone field grey trousers. The paras in Crete simply did not have special uniforms issued to them suitable for the Mediterranean in late spring, and their parachute smocks trapped heat.
      As the war went on producing cloth became a struggle for the German war economy, A synthetic wool was produced called Zellenwolle. It was considered rather poor at keeping the cold out. Close-up photos of German uniforms late in the war sometimes show they were made of poor-quality cloth.

    • @stevekaczynski3793
      @stevekaczynski3793 4 года назад

      @@aftastosk6016 And the mosquitos. Don't forget the damn mosquitos.

  • @yourstruly4817
    @yourstruly4817 4 года назад +38

    That Ride of the Valkyries helicopter attack scene in Apocalypse Now was inspired by the Wochenschau newsreel of the Invasion of Crete

  • @icostaticrebound6007
    @icostaticrebound6007 4 года назад +46

    “But I have a bigger operation to cover this week: Mercury.”
    My stupid ass: “yo nazis on the first planet?”

  • @Pantelis_Psaroudakis
    @Pantelis_Psaroudakis 4 года назад +5

    I am Cretan and my great grandfather ( my grandfather's father ) was a priest in the village of Kalamitsi Alexandrou ( Καλαμίτσι Αλεξάνδρου ) in the province of Chania. In our house that still exists in that village we have a well inside our property in which my great grandfather had repeatedly hidden partisans inside of it while giving them food, water etc. My grandfather was a kid at that time so thankfully I have had a pretty straight forward narration of the story.

  • @professornikos4905
    @professornikos4905 4 года назад +49

    9:02 is a photo from 02/06/1941 from the village of Kontomari, near Chania. The local populace was accused of killing a german unit and executed the entire male population of the village (age 15 and above). It is the first large scale, state sanctioned, civilian massacre of ww2 in Europe.

    • @stevekaczynski3793
      @stevekaczynski3793 4 года назад +1

      There were several in Poland before this. In one, in December 1939 the Germans had even managed to kill two American citizens of Polish descent who had been visiting Poland and were stranded by the outbreak of war. It did not go down well in the USA but this week they sunk a US ship. Edging towards hostilities with the USA...

    • @BokicaK1
      @BokicaK1 4 года назад +1

      Sorry, but it wasn't. Massacre of civilians near village Sirig in Serbia/Yugoslavia by Hungarians happened on April 13 1941. German Wehrmacht killed dozen civilians in Alibunar (or Pancevo) around 23 April. Ustashe killlings of Serbs in Croatia begun around same time.

    • @professornikos4905
      @professornikos4905 4 года назад

      Ok, i will be more specific. This was the first civilian massacre the German Army commited, in an already occupied village, after the surunder of its defending army, with an order directly from a high profile German officer (Kurt Stundent) with the sole purpose of punishing thepopulation. I am not stating bombings of strategic targets nor some age long ethnic tensions. This village was exterminated just because there were Germans dead nearby and Germans were angry. And in this regard it was the first village to be destroyed in occupied Europe.

    • @BokicaK1
      @BokicaK1 4 года назад

      @@professornikos4905 as i said, Alibunar and/or Pancevo happened few weeks earlier. There is a footage of Wehrmacht shooting civiluans against wall and local Volksdeutche hanging civilians, after capitulation of Yugoslav Army

  • @j.4332
    @j.4332 Год назад +2

    I had a 2nd cousin lost on HMS Gloucester.Youngsters need reminding about the losses incurred when appeasement takes over from defence.

    • @WorldWarTwo
      @WorldWarTwo  Год назад +2

      Thank you, J., for sharing your family history with us. May his lost not be forgotten.

  • @KiwiForce123
    @KiwiForce123 4 года назад +3

    Thank you so much to Indy and the team for covering such an important part of New Zealand history. Also glad my great grandfather's battalion, the 22nd, got a shotout. It would have been cool to mention Freyberg was a Kiwi but apart from that, loved the episode. Glad to hear you're doing an episode on Upham!

  • @PhilKelley
    @PhilKelley Год назад +1

    I recommend reading John Keagan's Intelligence in War, the chapter on "Crete: Foreknowledge No Help". In the very last paragraph of that chapter he sums it up as "...intelligence did not serve him well." Throughout the book, Keagan makes it clear that raw knowledge (in this case, decrypts of enemy communications) is not an advantage if you don't know how to interpret it.

  • @mikegord
    @mikegord 4 года назад +7

    My late father was with the 2/1st Battalion at Rethymnon and told me about Max screaming "Dont shoot me!" He said that the 2/1st battalion only surrendered after they ran out of ammunition. Most of the troops then escaped the temporary stockade and made their way south. Left behind he spent 3 months sheltered by the Cretans until captured. He said in the end he could run up mountain sides faster than a goat. Unfortunately they turned a corner in the village they were in and ran into a waiting German patrol. The village was destroyed by the Germans in reprisal.

  • @josephkelly9239
    @josephkelly9239 4 года назад +4

    His intro phone calls have developed so much over the years 🤣
    Love this channel.
    Glad you're doing better Indy!

  • @thalassinosmitsou3806
    @thalassinosmitsou3806 4 года назад +72

    The battle of Crete is seen by many to be one of the bravest battles in history. As mentioned, it was the first time civilians actually fought in the battle. Crete was a strategic point that should never have been lost. Allied reinforcements and a better command would maybe result in a win

    • @dragosstanciu9866
      @dragosstanciu9866 4 года назад +1

      Yes, but reinforcing Crete would have meant less Allied troops in North Africa, thus an easier war for Rommel.

    • @thalassinosmitsou3806
      @thalassinosmitsou3806 4 года назад +14

      @@dragosstanciu9866 I get your point, but Rommel's forces were outnumbered, the reinforcements wouldn't stay on the island for a very long time. Maybe they'd have to but Rommel would still lose. Also Crete and Malta were very important strategic points for Africa

    • @LucioFercho
      @LucioFercho 4 года назад +2

      No, not the first time, happened quite often and the end was always the same, the troops line up civilians and execute them for shooting at them to teach them a lesson, rinse and repeat.

    • @thalassinosmitsou3806
      @thalassinosmitsou3806 4 года назад +1

      @@LucioFercho DID YOU NOT HEAR INDIE NEIDEL he literally said it was the first time. Martin Gilbert also says that in his book, NO, just NO. I mean I get what u confused about. People that fought were drafted into the military. THOSE WERE MOMS, CHILDREN AND OLD PEOPLE

    • @LucioFercho
      @LucioFercho 4 года назад +3

      @@thalassinosmitsou3806 You clearly are a clueless child, go read a decent book moron.

  • @vasilisan3546
    @vasilisan3546 4 года назад +1

    Finally,an informal video about my island and my people! These are stories told by our grandparents! Thank you!

  • @rosaria8384
    @rosaria8384 4 года назад +25

    We are losing objective Berta!
    - German Fallschirmjäger, 1941

  • @alexhirlam7750
    @alexhirlam7750 4 года назад +1

    Could you please remember to put a VC at the end on Leslie Andrew's name please. Winning a VC is something that should never be forgotten.

    • @Southsideindy
      @Southsideindy 4 года назад

      While I do agree in theory, if we did that we'd also have to make sure to not forget all the Germans who won their major awards like the Knights Cross of the Iron Cross, and the Soviets, and the Japanese, and the Chinese, and everybody, and some of those are really hard to get data on.

  • @Gia1911Logous
    @Gia1911Logous 4 года назад +6

    I cantwait for next week
    Manolis Glezos, you will forever be remembered
    Rest In Peace

  • @Young_Anglican
    @Young_Anglican 2 года назад +3

    At 1:33 you can see Indy smoking a cig in the background with his old pal Mao

    • @WorldWarTwo
      @WorldWarTwo  2 года назад +2

      That is clearly Liam Neeson

  • @yatsumleung8618
    @yatsumleung8618 4 года назад +10

    German paras had crappy equipment. Their chutes linked to the troopers' harness with one strap at the back, leaving the troopers dangling in the wind (see 11:00) with no steering or means to slow down. 10% of casualties came from landing accidents alone.
    Without the means to slow down also means they could not carry, well, ANY equipment except a pistol or maybe an MP40 at best. Anything else were needed to be retrieved from separate ammo crates.
    Compare that with British and American paras later in the war (spoilers) who had the chutes linked to the trooper's shoulders, they could carry bazookas, MGs, 300 rounds of ammo etc to help them last for a days independently before getting relieved.

    • @Idcanymore510
      @Idcanymore510 4 года назад +4

      Your comment should read 'German paras had crappy parachutes', the rest of their equipment was excellent and far superior to their adversaries until well into the war.

  • @MIGBMWLOVER
    @MIGBMWLOVER 4 года назад +32

    the commitment of the New Zealanders is still ccelebrated in Crete!

    • @Beretta249
      @Beretta249 4 года назад +4

      Heroes, all. What a staggeringly heroic defense. o7

    • @Preussischer-Sozialist
      @Preussischer-Sozialist 8 месяцев назад

      Auf Kreta wird auch euer Bob-Semple-Panzer gefeiert,mit dem ihr den Krieg alleine gewonnen habt.

  • @pnutz_2
    @pnutz_2 4 года назад +62

    (spoilers)
    last week, rudolf hess started the second half of his life - as a prisoner

    • @cobbler9113
      @cobbler9113 4 года назад +1

      Nah, an elite SS regiment will bail him out in a stunning move. Well they might have if Hitler actually liked him at this point...

    • @stevekaczynski3793
      @stevekaczynski3793 4 года назад +2

      This week it is probably starting to dawn on him that he had made a big mistake.

    • @pnutz_2
      @pnutz_2 4 года назад

      @@stevekaczynski3793 prequel for the hangover

    • @christopherfritz3840
      @christopherfritz3840 4 года назад

      There is a book about his imprisonment (sorry I can't remember the title). He was REALLY stunned that he was going to be treated as a.. POW! He wore his best uniform endowed with his medals. Churchill ordered that they be apprehended including his Iron Cross which sent Hess into years long manic meltdown..

    • @Paciat
      @Paciat 4 года назад

      Moron thought British appeasement politics will continue after what Germans did, and planned what he will do after Britain will set him up as the head of German state. But the judge wont be as pro nazi as after the Munich Putsch.

  • @_____7704
    @_____7704 4 года назад +1

    My Nannas brother was killed in action aboard HMS Juno off the coast of Crete in around this time frame - 21st of May 1941

  • @kevinparsons3986
    @kevinparsons3986 4 года назад +7

    Seriously waiting for the Bio on Charles Upham. I remember when they screen an episode of This is Your Life here in New Zealand, They had to trick him into going to the Tv studio. A very quiet man. A great Kiwi

    • @WorldWarTwo
      @WorldWarTwo  4 года назад +2

      We've put him on the longlist. He wins his second VC in July 1942 so we might cover him then but we would have to see closer to the time.

  • @davidday9967
    @davidday9967 4 года назад

    I'm glad these shows exist. Making history palatable and not sleepy is a difficult balance. You have done well ✌

  • @charliebrown3903
    @charliebrown3903 4 года назад +69

    God the actions of that British commander are actually getting me pretty angry! Obviously hindsight is 20/20 but still this man really failed at the most basic parts of his job! How could u possible ignore a parachute invasion that's already happening that you were warned about and ignore your troops that are already fighting them!
    Brilliantly told indy! I never knew much about Crete and looking forward to next weeks episode!

    • @darak1455
      @darak1455 4 года назад +8

      Will later on we get the reverse of british use of paratroopers against germans *cough* market garden *cough* it seems British have troubles understanding paratroopers in this war minus one exception of course

    • @remlly262
      @remlly262 4 года назад +2

      I was opening my window when I heard indy saying freyberg ordered a retreat... after he went to bed relieved... I just threw my hands up in disbelief and said why...

    • @DiggingForFacts
      @DiggingForFacts 4 года назад +2

      @@darak1455 Paratroopers and Glider-borne infantry worked well enough in Overlord. Market Garden suffered a great many issues on other fronts as well and it was mostly down to planning, so I think it has more to do with just how much was expected of paratroopers with too little time and too little proper intelligence.

    • @SusCalvin
      @SusCalvin 4 года назад +2

      @@darak1455 Everything is hard when you try it the first time.
      This also shows the germans the weaknesses and risks with upscaled, unsupported airborne assaults. These paratroopers, the elite of their branch, are finding themselves in battles with tanks and caught out of cohesion by third-line troops and aren't actually doing too great against them.
      What are you going to do as a falschirmjäger if you get into a fight with a Home Guard or partisan unit, or even a surplus tank comes rolling up.

    • @kingrichard728
      @kingrichard728 4 года назад +1

      THis video unfairly blames Freyberg for the loss of Maleme. First off, Freyberg did want to sabotage the runway but was over ruled. Second, there was a Brigade defending Maleme, not a single battalion as this video states. It's commander (James HARGEST) had been given explict orders to counter-attack any German foot hold. It was Hargest who ignored requests from 22nd Battalion and also ignored 21st and 23rd Battalion that they were available to do counter-attacks. It was also Hargest who lied to Freyberg on the night of the 21st about the situation at Maleme and told him everything was secure (this was after permiting Col Andrews to withdrawal from Hill 107). It was Hargest who tried to push Freyberg under the bus in the subsequent inquiry into the loss of Crete. Fortunately, he also go himself captured in North Africa a few months later and we are all better off for it.

  • @lewisroach8723
    @lewisroach8723 4 года назад +1

    Honestly its a running theme throughout this channel that i feel the saddest about the deaths of good soldiers who are sent in horrible offensives where they have a 1% chance to survive and the mission is a failure they just don't know it yet. with the possible exception of the Holodomor episode things like the air troops just having to drop in the ocean and drown tangled in their parachutes after all that training and seemingly no chance to win even if they followed their plan just gets me.

  • @daimyoj9266
    @daimyoj9266 4 года назад +3

    Eagerly anticipating that bio on New Zealand legend Charles Upham ... Love your work!

  • @sparrow7625
    @sparrow7625 4 года назад +2

    Nice of you to change the camera angle feels more "spacious".
    Been following you since 2016,keep up the great work!

    • @WorldWarTwo
      @WorldWarTwo  4 года назад

      Always good to hear from a longtime fan! Glad to hear you're happy with what we're doing.

  • @theschwomp4149
    @theschwomp4149 4 года назад +5

    Hey Indie, glad to see you're recovering from covid

  • @petrosantonopoulos
    @petrosantonopoulos 4 года назад +5

    As a Greek conscript Paratrooper, I had the honor to serve at the historical base of Maleme. The German cemetery is just above the airfield.

  • @benjamindover2601
    @benjamindover2601 4 года назад +47

    The absolute mad men, launching a day time airborne invasion onto an island bristling with AA guns. Say what you like about the Fallschirmjäger they were not cowards.

    • @martijn9568
      @martijn9568 4 года назад +20

      It's hard to say if it falls left or right from the thin line between bravery amd stupidity

    • @pedrolopez8057
      @pedrolopez8057 4 года назад +3

      they did have bad intelligence. They thought it was lightly defended and they had the element of surprise.

    • @joshando4092
      @joshando4092 4 года назад +14

      Yes they were. Europe’s last good men. I was woken up by the call to prayer today. In England, yes England. Last week a teen girl was arrested for telling people about her sexual abuse at the hands of immigrant, thank god were not speaking German though! So glad they lost!

    • @Glamerth
      @Glamerth 4 года назад +27

      Josh ando shut the fuck up nazi

    • @dbzfanexwarbrady
      @dbzfanexwarbrady 4 года назад +3

      @@joshando4092 where the fk do you live in England , god is dead here

  • @BonsaiBlacksmith
    @BonsaiBlacksmith 4 года назад +3

    08:57 The Spirit of King Minos and the Ancient Minoans is not dead.... love the resistance.

  • @Gilgwathir
    @Gilgwathir 11 месяцев назад +2

    The more I learn about the allies in the first half of the war, the more I come to doubt this urban myth for legandary Nazi strategic and tactical prowes. I start to think it's rather due to the legendary incompetence of allied leadership.

  • @PalleRasmussen
    @PalleRasmussen 4 года назад +2

    A former friend of mine, Max Schmeling is the grandson of a Danish boxer, who faced off against the original Max Schmeling a few times, and became his friend, like Joe Louis. The family name was changed to honour him. He must have been a special kind of man.

  • @darthcalanil5333
    @darthcalanil5333 4 года назад +7

    when you receive all the answers from your friends, yet still somehow manage to fail the test!

  • @adamminichino5731
    @adamminichino5731 4 года назад +4

    The fact that Freyberg wasn’t sacked after this massive level of incompetence is astounding. The dude served in multiple operations in North Africa and Italy until the end of the war. This also shows the level of incompetence of the British General Staff for allowing Freyberg to continue to have a command. The man was given every detail of the enemy attack and failed miserably.

    • @merdiolu
      @merdiolu 4 года назад

      from wikipedia.org (after Battle of Crete)
      Promoted to lieutenant-general and knighted as a Knight Commander of the Order of the British Empire, General Bernard Freyberg continued to command the 2nd New Zealand Division through the North African and Italian Campaigns of the Eighth Army. He had an excellent reputation as a divisional-level tactician. During Operation Crusader in November and December 1941 , 2nd New Zealand Division reached and relieved Tobruk. Winston Churchill, the British Prime Minister, described Freyberg as his "salamander" due to his love of fire and wanting to be always in the middle of the action. An exploding German shell wounded Freyberg at the Battle of Mersa Matruh in June 1942 but he soon returned to the battlefield. During battle of First El Alamein 2nd New Zealand Division under Freyberg's command was vital in stopping and repulsing Panzer Army Africa at Alamein line. Freyberg disagreed strongly with his superior, General Claude Auchinleck, the Eighth Army commander and insisted that as a commander of a national contingent he had the right to refuse orders if those orders ran counter to the New Zealand national interest. Freyberg enjoyed a good relationship with General Bernard Montgomery, the Eighth Army commander from August 1942, who thought highly of the experienced New Zealand commander.
      In the climactic Second Battle of El Alamein (October-November 1942) the 2nd New Zealand Division played a vital part in the breakthrough of Axis defense lines by the Eighth Army; for his leadership, Freyberg was immediately promoted to Knight Commander of the Order of the Bath. During the pursuit of the Axis forces to Tunisia, where they surrendered in May 1943, he led the New Zealanders on a series of well-executed left hooks to outflank Axis defence lines. In April and May 1943 Freyberg briefly commanded X Corps.
      Freyberg was injured in an aircraft accident in September 1944. After six weeks in hospital he returned to command the New Zealand Division in its final operations, the Spring 1945 offensive in Italy, which involved a series of river crossings and an advance of 250 mi (400 km) in three weeks. By the time of the German surrender, the New Zealanders had reached Trieste, having liberated both Padua and Venice, where there was a brief standoff with Yugoslav partisans. This success earned him a third bar to his DSO in July 1945 and he was made a Commander of the United States Legion of Merit.
      Freyberg had excelled in planning set-piece attacks, such as at Operation Supercharge at Alamein, Operation Supercharge II at Tebaga Gap, and in the storming of the Senio line in 1945. The two occasions that Freyberg commanded at Corps level-at Crete and Monte Cassino-were less successful. Throughout the war he showed a disdain for danger. He showed notable concern for the welfare of his soldiers, taking a common-sense attitude to discipline and ensuring the establishment of social facilities for his men. He had become a very popular commander with the New Zealand soldiers by the time he left his command in 1945

    • @lovablesnowman
      @lovablesnowman 4 года назад

      Commonwealth politics

    • @kingrichard728
      @kingrichard728 4 года назад

      There was a public inquiry into the loss of Crete and Freyberg was exonerated. This video blames Freyberg for things that weren't under his control, for teh inaction and insubordination of his subordinated (Hargest) and this video doesn't mention a lot of mitigating factors. Like the defenders had zero air cover and lacked a lot of basic equipment (having just been evacuated from Greece a month eariler

    • @JimHaughie
      @JimHaughie 4 месяца назад

      Rommel is reported to have great respect for Freyberg and the New Zealand division in north Afrika. According to a book written by Desmond Young a British Brigadier under Montgomery his interview after ww2 with a German staff officer {A capt Aldinger ?} indicated that Rommel rated the NZ troops as the best of all the Allies. Pages 147 or therabouts. of the book entitled simply Rommel.
      Take it or leave it. And Freyburg did win a VC in ww1 and was a brave man. Whats your story.

  • @MyLateralThawts
    @MyLateralThawts 4 года назад +55

    I was hoping you would throw the Italian navy a little credit by mentioning the heroic effort of the torpedo boat Lupo and their one sided battle against the RN when the convoy they were protecting came under attack.

    • @kanedakrsa
      @kanedakrsa 4 года назад +6

      Maybe if the italian navy earned any credit they'd get some?

    • @MyLateralThawts
      @MyLateralThawts 4 года назад +6

      kanedakrsa does this count? en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Italian_torpedo_boat_Lupo

    • @kanedakrsa
      @kanedakrsa 4 года назад +1

      @@MyLateralThawts No, anybody can make a wikipedia page. Doesn't assign merit to anything.

    • @MyLateralThawts
      @MyLateralThawts 4 года назад +3

      kanedakrsa Okay, show us the alternative narrative from another website regarding this action.

    • @emirkankurtdemir2638
      @emirkankurtdemir2638 4 года назад +1

      they metioned it on insatgram

  • @Kennymac8251
    @Kennymac8251 4 года назад +1

    Wow what a great channel. Why did it take so long for me to discover this gem. Obviously now a subscriber

  • @ΤόλιςΓραμματόπουλος
    @ΤόλιςΓραμματόπουλος 4 года назад +2

    As a Greek all i know about the invasion of Crete is from sayings i have heard and these things are two:
    1) When the invasion started many local farmers hid in trees with pitchforks waiting the incoming parachuters in order to impale them or at least wound them before they reached the ground and took their weapons which leads us to the second thing which is
    2) an old saying which insist that if you take all the hidden weapons from Cretan villages like Sphakia (or in greek Σφακιά with emphasis put in -ia) you could arm entire batallions

  • @SusCalvin
    @SusCalvin 4 года назад +2

    This shows off some of the weaknesses of mass air assaults as well. The airdropped troops are going to be out of cohesion when they first land. The more you scale up the operation, the more vulnerable command and control is necessary on the ground. They are light infantry, armour and mechanized units are hard to handle for them. They're at a constant undersupply risk. Airborne troops have a limited time to do their missions, and the most important one is to open up for reinforcements by regular units.
    "The air force is going to do everything" is the promise Göring and others keeps making. These risks will start to show in allied attempts at air assault as well.

  • @lollipop9954
    @lollipop9954 4 года назад +191

    It seems like the Brits are very good at evacuations lol

    • @cobbler9113
      @cobbler9113 4 года назад +11

      At least we don’t surrender... 😄

    • @shellshockedgerman3947
      @shellshockedgerman3947 4 года назад +22

      Its pretty easy to evacuate people when you have alot of ships.

    • @andresmartinezramos7513
      @andresmartinezramos7513 4 года назад +36

      @@cobbler9113 Because you had places to run to...

    • @defdandef5841
      @defdandef5841 4 года назад +5

      They're so good that commando raids are a thing later 😄

    • @danielcrespo7967
      @danielcrespo7967 4 года назад +28

      The local populations hold off the Germans, while the Brits bravely run away.

  • @quattuorperquattuor1711
    @quattuorperquattuor1711 4 года назад +1

    this is excellent work, World. Please do more.

  • @jays233
    @jays233 4 года назад +3

    My great uncle fought in the battle of crete, he was captured and sent to a prison camp but was able to escape and swim around the island back to safety

  • @richardc7721
    @richardc7721 3 года назад

    Love the set up, broadcast from the time...awesomely different!!

  • @good97ful
    @good97ful 4 года назад +14

    I hope you recover fast from covid Indy!

  • @asterixdogmatix1073
    @asterixdogmatix1073 2 года назад

    Thank for the the mention of Charles Upham's first VC.

  • @georgekorkotzelos5273
    @georgekorkotzelos5273 4 года назад +4

    i am pretty sure I read somewhere, that the losses of german parachute troops in Crete lead Nazis to the decision never try large parachute drops again

  • @HurricaneOK1
    @HurricaneOK1 4 года назад

    Huzzah! Bio special on Captain Upham will be superb. Spent most of this vid thinking "I hope they mention Captain Upham... A bio special would be even better...!" - BOOM, Timeghost and Indy deliver... Can't wait.

  • @mikereger1186
    @mikereger1186 4 года назад +5

    I am lucky enough to own Christopher Buckley’s book on the Greece and Crete 1941 campaign.
    The Battle of Crete was a much closer run thing than the Germans had ever suffered up to that point of the war. In fact, no mass drop of German paratroops ever was permitted again - not on this scale.

  • @hondeos4610
    @hondeos4610 4 года назад +1

    Finally you make a video with greek subtitles thank you so m😊😁uch

    • @WorldWarTwo
      @WorldWarTwo  4 года назад +1

      You are welcome! It's thanks to volunteer subtitle writers that we could do so :)

  • @irina49125
    @irina49125 4 года назад +39

    british intel: they´re coming by air,prepare yourselves!
    freyberg: do you mean.... by sea?
    british intel:air,they´re coming by air
    freyberg: so cool i get the chance to prepare a naval attack!
    british intel: no- what?-

    • @kingrichard728
      @kingrichard728 4 года назад +2

      British Intel said the invasion was by air (12,000 troops) and by sea (10,000 troops). So Freyberg deploys his available troops accordingly. It was never guaranteed that the Royal Navy would be able to intercept the seaborne invasion at night

  • @sifis172
    @sifis172 4 года назад

    Neidel keep well, i hope you completely recovered!
    Keep it up! i'm from greece and this week is very interesting to me!

  • @aethismo
    @aethismo 4 года назад +4

    "The key to victory is the element of surprise" - Zap Brannigan

  • @londonsmee
    @londonsmee 4 года назад

    One of my favourite RUclips channels. Outstanding as usual carry on :)

  • @merdiolu
    @merdiolu 4 года назад +68

    17 May 1941 , US , Arthur Compton and the United States National Academy of Sciences published a report noting the success rate of developing an atomic weapon was favorable. On the same day, Vannevar Bush created the Office of Scientific Research and Development (OSRD)
    17 May 1941 , Iraq , Sonderkommando Junck, a special formation of German Luftwaffe fighters, bombers and transports which had been hastily painted with Iraqi markings, commenced (with a dozen Bf 110 aircraft of 4./ZG 76) air attacks on British positions, especially those at Habbaniya, Iraq; or the next ten days the Bf 110 aircraft attacked, losing several aircraft in the process. Late in the evening, the British force from Palestine arrived at Habbaniya. After sundown, British and colonial troops crossed the Euphrates River toward Fallujah.
    18 May 1941 , Iraq , British aircraft from RAF Habbaniya bombed Iraqi positions in Fallujah throughout the day. Meanwhile, Arab Legion troops loyal to Britain relieved the besieged RAF Habbaniyah which was defended only by out-of-date training aircraft.
    18 May 1941 , Central Mediterranean , Italian cargo ship Giovinezza was was torpedoed and sunk off Benghazi by Royal Navy submarine HMS Tetrarch
    19 May 1941 , Iraq , Iraqis surrender the town of Fallujah after it was subjected to aerial and artillery bombardment by the British; 300 Iraqi troops were taken prisoner. On the same day, German bombers attacked RAF Habbaniya in Iraq
    19 May 1941 , Crete , Greece , German aircraft attacked British airfields on Crete, Greece. To prevent destruction, the British RAF evacuated all aircraft from Crete to Egypt.
    19 May 1941 , Germany , "Guidelines for the behaviour of the troops in Russia" demanded that German troops use "ruthless and energetic action against Bolshevik agitators, guerrillas, saboteurs (and) Jews" and approved the complete liquidation of any "active or passive resistance".

    • @merdiolu
      @merdiolu 4 года назад +9

      20 May 1941 , Operation Merkur , German invasion of Crete, Greece began with an airborne assault at 0800 hours, to capture Maleme airfield on the northern coast , Cania port and Akrotiri peninsula. Sturm regiment of 7th Airborne Division capture high ground around Malame airfield at the cost of very heavy casaulties under New Zealand defensive fire. All German paratroopers who land around Akrotiri were killed. Around Canea German paratroopers who survived from Australian and British fire began to organise in small groups. At 1615 hours and 1730 hours, the second airborne assault was conducted at Rethimnon and Heraklion, respectively; 1,856 German airborne troopers were killed during the second attack wave. At Suda Bay, Crete, German bombers sank British minesweeper HMS Widnes. After sundown, destroyers HMS Jervis, HMAS Nizam, and HMS Ilex bombarded the German-controlled airfield on the Greek island of Karpathos
      20 May 1941 , Gulf of Athens , Greece , Italian destroyer Curtatone struck a mine and sunk with most of her crew
      21 May 1941 Moscow , USSR , At a meeting of the Central Committee War Section in Moscow, Russia, the intelligence reports, provided by Communist sympathisers in Germany, that an attack on the Soviet Union was imminent was greeted with much apprehension. Stalin however still refused to accept the intelligence, believing that the reports must be either deliberate provocation of misinformation by the British to get the Soviet Union involved in the war.
      21 May 1941 , Crete , In the early hours of the day, three British cruisers and four destroyers from Royal Navy Mediterranean Fleet intercepted a German convoy of caiques bringing reinforcements asnd suppliers to Crete. British ships sank 19 small Axis vessels, killing 398 Germans. However due to a misunderstanding in orders , New Zealand troops evacuate Malame airfield and let German Sturm regiment capture it. In the morning, 650 men of the German 5. Gebirsgäger Division landed on Malame airfield just in time to support the paratroopers already in position against a British counter attack at Maleme airfield. Many of the German transport aircraft that delivered the troops would be damaged or destroyed on the airfield before they could take off. New Zealand General Freyberg held back his reserves despite German presence at Maleme, believing that the main German invasion was still to come at the beaches.
      21 May 1941 , East Mediterranean , Italian dive bombers sunk British destroyer HMS Juno
      21 May 1941 , Malta , Mediterranean , Total 48 RAF Hurricane fighters took off from Royal Navy carriers HMS Ark Royal and HMS Argus and land on Malta
      21 May 1941 , Central Mediterranean , Italian cargo ship Zeffiro bound for Tripoli , struck a mine and sunk off Cape Bon Tunisia
      21 May 1941 German submarine U-69 sank unarmed American freighter Robin Moor by torpedo and gunfire 800 miles off the coast of British West Africa at 0525 hours; Robin Moor was the first American merchantman to be sunk by a German submarine in WW2. All 46 aboard survived. US President Roosevelt protested the sinking and unsuccessfully demanded compensation from Germany. At midnight at the very end of the day, U-69 struck again, sinking British ship Tewkesbury; all 42 aboard survived.

    • @JustSomeCanuck
      @JustSomeCanuck 4 года назад +7

      To be fair, the good people at TimeGhost can't cover everything that happens.

    • @stevekaczynski3793
      @stevekaczynski3793 4 года назад +1

      That last paragraph contains the curtain-raiser on the Holocaust.

  • @Bearded_Tattooed_Guy
    @Bearded_Tattooed_Guy 4 года назад +1

    2:18
    Bismarck in Dolviken south of Bergen in Norway, short stop on the way to break out in the Atlantic, at the start of Operation Rheinübung.
    She is still in her Baltic pattern camuflage, but will soon receive the all grey, standard paint for German ships operating in the Atlantic.
    She was spotted by a Spitfire photoreconnaissance plane piloted by Flying Officer Michael Suckling, who managed to photographed her from 8000 meters.
    The distinct mountain on the left is called Lyderhorn.
    According to local legend, and a trial for whichcraft in 1590, this is where witches met and worshipped the Devil.

  • @usernamesareoverrated7246
    @usernamesareoverrated7246 4 года назад +23

    9:02 Oh yes , the Greeks!

  • @Ai-he1dp
    @Ai-he1dp 4 года назад

    Among the informative presentation there is also time for a little humour...just an amazing channel... Max Schmeling and you sharing a birthday no less!...both giants in their field.

  • @KnoxZone
    @KnoxZone 4 года назад +16

    Had to double check to make sure I wasn't watching an episode of The Great War. Freyberg would fit right in with the 'brilliant' generals of that war.

    • @lovablesnowman
      @lovablesnowman 4 года назад

      There was never a failure as big as Crete or Singapore in WW1. But yeah shit on British generals in ww1. Lions led by Donkeys am I right?

    • @StephenFleming-kk7uk
      @StephenFleming-kk7uk 6 месяцев назад

      He was a general in the first world war, where he won a VC, in the British Naval Division,.In fact the youngest general in the British army. But in the second world war he was the oldest Allied general.

  • @fabiomb
    @fabiomb 4 года назад +2

    excelent video, as always

  • @stephenhensley7004
    @stephenhensley7004 4 года назад +15

    Freyberg apparently carried Foch's WWI sentiment to WWII, " It takes 15,000 casualties to train a Major General."

    • @JimHaughie
      @JimHaughie 4 месяца назад

      only a fool would believe anything said by Foch/

  • @kstreet7438
    @kstreet7438 4 года назад

    This was a great episodes, i can't wait to see how y'all cover it when the war really heats up this year.

  • @NikosReegas
    @NikosReegas 4 года назад +2

    The grandmother of my girlfriend had her wedding dress made of the fabric of a German parachute.
    My Grandfather as many others was part of the local irregulars.
    He had so many stories to say.
    One such story was that they had to use a fire truck in order to fill up a basement with water to scare
    two German parachuters that were hiding there and force them to surrender.
    They were then taken to the English garrison headquarters in Heraklion.

  • @keybchet9986
    @keybchet9986 4 года назад +1

    2:20
    From the mist, a shape, a ship, is taking form
    And the silence of the sea is about to drift into a storm

  • @Lemmonny
    @Lemmonny 4 года назад +42

    My country is about to capitulate nooooo
    Also how are you Indy

  • @ThrowawayModeller
    @ThrowawayModeller 4 года назад +2

    12:50 The age of the battleship is over, but the unlikely age of the AVIATION BATTLESHIPS IS TRULY UPON US

  • @solsdadio
    @solsdadio 4 года назад +33

    I’d heard about the Cretans attacking the paratroopers and hunting them through the night, but not that the women and children got in on it as well.
    Freyberg and German intelligence? They deserve each other.

    • @xx1xx0
      @xx1xx0 4 года назад +6

      I am from Crete and I can assure you that all the residents of the island actually took part in the battle of Crete. Elderly, young men and women, teenagers and young children. Also, because they did not have many weapons, they literally used what they could find: stones, rods, wood, etc. In Crete there is a cemetery with all the Germans who died on the island

  • @RandomDudeOne
    @RandomDudeOne 4 года назад +2

    The photos of the Junkers 52's on fire, wow.

    • @stevekaczynski3793
      @stevekaczynski3793 4 года назад

      Clearly there was a British or New Zealand photographer taking snaps as it was happening.

    • @stevekaczynski3793
      @stevekaczynski3793 4 года назад

      The Germans lost nearly 300 aircraft in the Crete campaign, shot down/crashed or damaged beyond repair. They lost enough Ju52s that it may have impacted their attempts to resupply Sixth Army in Stalingrad a year and a half later. However, I have read that photos of smoke pouring from Ju52s in Crete were retouched for propaganda purposes by the British. In the original photo there was no smoke coming out.

  • @stevekaczynski3793
    @stevekaczynski3793 4 года назад +8

    10:01 - A relatively large "bag" of German POWs, considering it was the early war years and it was usually the Germans taking lots of prisoners.