@@davebuskirk1758 Yes, you are correct, but with an explanation, he could have made it much simpler. I read through several comments, some didn't quite understand. Theirs no reason to go to another video, he could've explained it, plain and simple.
I have used relays before. This was the first time I wired the circuit the opposit way meaning to enable the flashing by opening the circuit. VERY cool Idea. It worked. I added s 7 foot LED strip on the side of my truck. When lights are on the side amber lights are on. When I select to turn on the turn signal the whole side of the truck flashes. I used one relay for each side. I bought a 10 pack of relays from Amazon. Yeehaw NICE NICE Nice. Super cool. Best Tip of the year.
@Marylandcowboy I just double checked. With the parking lights off there is no flash of the new circuit. Only the stock turn signal flashes. The above works because the driving circuit is on or just the yellow lights. Very visible at night. Hope this helps.
I am going to try this tomorrow. I rewired Dodge's bs factory system to a much easier toggle switches system. Couldn't figure out how to make rear lights run (parking lights) and be able for use with turns. Cannot wait till the sun comes up now! Thanks, will keep an update!
@@alphathefirstone1222 no, I ended up rewiring the entire truck. I installed a touch screen panel with 6 different push pads for all the lighting. I installed on off on switch for turn signals. And was able to reuse the brake light wiring from the 3rd brake light. I spliced into that, and ran a 14 gauge pair to the rear for brake lights. So my brake lights and my running lights are on 1 bulb, and I installed a led pod for the 2nd light (turn signals)
Good video to help on simple wiring. What I did with mine is use the old side marker and blinker wiring and just tapped on it. But yours is for no wiring at all which would be very helpful.
Omkar Shinde ,good day bro can u please tell me your steps on how u wire your lights with the relay? Did u cut the wires after tapping from relay? Or just tap the wire only? Im affraid to try it yet bro .thanks in advance bro
What changes would I need to make or how would I go about wiring or splicing a 9145 led switch back fog light bulb to my pre existing 3157 turn signals?
i want to convert my jeep cherokee/liberty to do this here in uk. two modules hidden away each side simple enough. although i'm now wondering if it'll afffect the rear sidelights as thats the circuit that would be wired to it from the front sidelights. american sidelight/turn signal are wired to flash with your brake lights ours have seperate side lights also, but are obviously wired different as ours would short out the rears also?? as our fronts are wired to a WHITE sidelight, white dipped/main beam and orange turn signal. but we use orange rear turns, we have to convert or retro fit a orange turn signal on imported american cars to make them road legal. so your side lights would be wired different to the front from the rear i'm guessing. we usualy have separate fuses for left and right as its safer if you blow a light fuse lol
Greetings you seem good at this! I have a question maybe you have an idea. I would like to make my hazards on my construction 🚧 dump truck strobe when i turn hazards on any ideas on making my led stop/signal strobe when hazards on?
Maybe I'm not thinking of this right, but it seems like this setup would make the side marker alternate with the blinkers rather than flash in time. If so, maybe you could use a second relay to invert the flasher signal?
If I connect pin 30 to a positive ignition wire and leave everything as you have it. This will cause the side marker to always be on as soon as you open ignition correct? And then when hitting the turn signals still work?? Thanks!!
arlan navasa Hi I know it’s a while now but I need some help I did my motorcycle but I am having some faded light on the dash do you remember how you did it please
arlan navasa I want to do it for my bike Yamaha R1 but something don’t seem right the I wire the relay my indicator work but on my motorcycle dash if I turn the right indicator there is a faded light on the other side on the dash.I have a video of how I wire mine.
Hey man, I can't thank you enough for this info. Never thought about the "never used" 87a !! I've just been accepting that my negative will back feed and always have my turn arrows on my dash LOL. Now it works perfect and much brighter because of no back feed and relay in general. Again, this is priceless, at least for this ol boy.
If you want to make it to where the turn signal still works when the parking/running lights are off, make 87A always hot, make 85 the power wire for the turn signal, and make 86 the power wire for the parking/ running lights. This works on the principal that if you hook 12 volts to both sides of a component, there is no flow of energy. The component turns off. This only works if the computer grounds turn and parking light wires when they are turned off, and I think most do but I could be wrong
So has i understand. It wont work. Because 86 and 85 needs power to activate. Lets say its true the current will not flow when they are activated..m but neither it will it its turn of. Thus the relay will do nothing. And by having constant power to 87A then the 87 or 30 will have comstant poner untill the relay activates to change the conection to one pin to another
@@yunarukami6118 I misspoke. Everything is the same except 87 is the constant power, not 87A. With pin 30 being the output to the led turn signal/ running light. This only works when the computer grounds the power wires when they are switched off. When only one side of the relay has power and the other side is grounded by being off the light comes on. This way the turn signal works when the running lights are off as well as when they are on. When the running lights are on the turn signal will flash at the opposite time the normal turn signal would. The relay is only necessary because the bulb is LED. Many trucks use the side marker light as a turn signal by hooking the power wire for running lights to one side and power for turn signal to the other side
This requires the running lights to be constant "on" to work. Is there a way to have the blinker work in this circuit if you have a switch for the running lights and decide to keep the running lights off during the daytime? How then would the blinkers work with no power to draw from the running lights to blink?
This is the reason why im here. I manage to mske this exact circuit on my own. But i need it yo make it work even if the daytime light sre off. Sooo. Did you find anything or not?🤔
Those came from the retrofit source but I don't remember what they were exactly called. I think they might have been like Moto pods or something like that
Ok could I do this on my bike I have 3 wires coming from the bike and my new running light is only two wires but I want it to blink too BIKE: Black ground Blue running light Purple turn RUNNING LIGHT power yellow Ground black How would I hook this up
Will the lights blink opposite of the turn signal??? I wanna wire my running board lights up to double as turn signals but I want them to flash in sync with my stock turn signal
No not using this method u can do it with this relay forget what this guy says completely and look up how to wire light on 5 pin relay some really good vids out there
Trying to decide if I want to do this or just add another pair of lights and wire those to the Parking light. Yeah it'd be two side marker lights on each side (one pair for turn, one pair for markers), but I hate having to buy more stuff. $16 each?.... ugh
you could buy them online cheaper, I just used the ones from the auto parts store because i wanted to do it that day. you could probably get both relays with sockets for less than 20 bucks
dalton456 yea basically would be doing exactly what you're doing with L E D .....( both sides) otherwise why bother... Just seems though it would be more efficient..
you cant wire the led across the wires to light up solid and blink, but you can do it with a halogen bulb. the reason you cant with a led is because it is a diode and only allows current to flow one way, while a regular halogen bulb can pass current either way.
So I am seeing this as 30 12V input, in this case running light in 85 Turn Signal input 86 Ground 87 not used 87A Output to your Light Light has its own ground Am I seeing this right?
Matt Glandorf ,good day bro.did u done it successfully? How was it? Im affraid to try this on my car though i really want it but i need to know more about wiring the relay to the park and signal lights clearly.hope you can help me bro.thanks in advance bro,good day
@@toyconph3642 a simple led light will do absolutely nothing if you mess up the wiring, try it out if you fail take it all out and go back to the drawing board unless you mess with more major electrical circuits you won't really risk anything by failing other than possible screwing up an existing circuit you try to splice into (trying to tap into turn signals and instead making neither the turn signal nor your addition work) not much risk other than hurting your ego
dalton456 this was incredibly helpful! I’m satisfied not the perfect ideal world but satisfied. Side markers lights only become signal flashers when running lights are on. If no running lights on they will not flash when signaling. Is that peculiar?
Tried this on my 94 Jeep Wrangler. Everything works fine with the headlights on. I get the running light and blinker but once the headlights are off I lose blinker. Any ideas? I've been trying every wire configuration I can find and am still stumped.
with this setup they will only blink when the lights are on. like this. lights on the blinker breaks the the flow of power and turns the light off. lights off the blinker has no power flow to to break to fix this you will need a light that is dual function (as in 2 hot 1 ground) 1 hot marker 1 hot blinker 1 shared ground .
Have you tried putting Pin 30 with a positive ignition wire? Causing it to activate as soon as you turn on car and make the turn signals work everytime?
yes this is the one drawback to doing it the way I did. in my case I ride with the headlights on even during the day, so it isn't really an issue. this was the simplest way i could think to do it off of the top of my head that would still work with an led bulb.
You could technically wire your Fender lights to straight positive (switched) and then use your turn relay on your blinkers. That way they will stay on whenever your car turns on and whenever you're blinker blinks it'll blink too
If people who go to YT already know the terminologies and which wires to connect they wouldn't need to go to YT. But they still end up going only to find there's no solution given by any of these videos.
there is a diagram provided, and this is somewhat universal circuit. The bottom of the relays are numbered, not sure what more you want because this video is not meant to explain what a relay is and how it works
@@dalton456 yeah pretty vague for someone looking for help thats not good with wiring not to mention the wiring explauned in the video is wrong to how it should b done so confusing a confused person even more hurts more than help
Nice explanation, but you should have gone into more detail by showing it step by step for people who don't understand how a relay works.
There are plenty of RUclips videos on how relays work. Use your resources wisely.
@@davebuskirk1758 Yes, you are correct, but with an explanation, he could have made it much simpler. I read through several comments, some didn't quite understand. Theirs no reason to go to another video, he could've explained it, plain and simple.
Can you help me, I still can’t get it
Mine blinks opposite to the rest of the car
@@timothysutherland6419
Did you ever get it figured out?
THANK YOU SO MUCH! My fancy new mirrors didn't have the extra wire for clearance and blinkers. This should work great! :) Jonathan, Hawaii
You saved my life! Ive wired many relays, and now finally have use for 87A lol
Thanks. Want to do this to talk lights on a motorcycle. You gave me the solution!
Thank you! Been looking for this info for a minute.
Had to replay the video a lot but I did get it.... Great video
I have used relays before. This was the first time I wired the circuit the opposit way meaning to enable the flashing by opening the circuit. VERY cool Idea. It worked. I added s 7 foot LED strip on the side of my truck. When lights are on the side amber lights are on. When I select to turn on the turn signal the whole side of the truck flashes. I used one relay for each side. I bought a 10 pack of relays from Amazon. Yeehaw NICE NICE Nice. Super cool. Best Tip of the year.
@Marylandcowboy I just double checked. With the parking lights off there is no flash of the new circuit. Only the stock turn signal flashes. The above works because the driving circuit is on or just the yellow lights. Very visible at night. Hope this helps.
I am going to try this tomorrow. I rewired Dodge's bs factory system to a much easier toggle switches system. Couldn't figure out how to make rear lights run (parking lights) and be able for use with turns. Cannot wait till the sun comes up now! Thanks, will keep an update!
did you get it to work??? im having the same trouble. cant get running rear lights withou canceling my turn signals...thx
@@alphathefirstone1222 no, I ended up rewiring the entire truck. I installed a touch screen panel with 6 different push pads for all the lighting. I installed on off on switch for turn signals. And was able to reuse the brake light wiring from the 3rd brake light. I spliced into that, and ran a 14 gauge pair to the rear for brake lights. So my brake lights and my running lights are on 1 bulb, and I installed a led pod for the 2nd light (turn signals)
Good video to help on simple wiring. What I did with mine is use the old side marker and blinker wiring and just tapped on it. But yours is for no wiring at all which would be very helpful.
Very helpful. Thank you !!!
Omkar Shinde ,good day bro can u please tell me your steps on how u wire your lights with the relay? Did u cut the wires after tapping from relay? Or just tap the wire only? Im affraid to try it yet bro .thanks in advance bro
All I know is this worked exactly how I wanted it to. I will have to do some research on how it works. So I can use relays more in the future.
Appreciate the video thank you
Very informative 🎉 thanks!
What changes would I need to make or how would I go about wiring or splicing a 9145 led switch back fog light bulb to my pre existing 3157 turn signals?
i want to convert my jeep cherokee/liberty to do this here in uk. two modules hidden away each side simple enough. although i'm now wondering if it'll afffect the rear sidelights as thats the circuit that would be wired to it from the front sidelights. american sidelight/turn signal are wired to flash with your brake lights ours have seperate side lights also, but are obviously wired different as ours would short out the rears also?? as our fronts are wired to a WHITE sidelight, white dipped/main beam and orange turn signal. but we use orange rear turns, we have to convert or retro fit a orange turn signal on imported american cars to make them road legal. so your side lights would be wired different to the front from the rear i'm guessing. we usualy have separate fuses for left and right as its safer if you blow a light fuse lol
you can also use a diode if you keep the stock wiring.. by the way, can you show us the diagram of the relay..
Greetings you seem good at this! I have a question maybe you have an idea. I would like to make my hazards on my construction 🚧 dump truck strobe when i turn hazards on any ideas on making my led stop/signal strobe when hazards on?
How do i fix the side markers flashing alternate to the blinkers???
Maybe I'm not thinking of this right, but it seems like this setup would make the side marker alternate with the blinkers rather than flash in time. If so, maybe you could use a second relay to invert the flasher signal?
I think you would have to take the indicator signal from before the flasher unit as that would be a solid feed?
How do u hook it up so that it blink together??
How do you do the wiring? I have the two turn signal wires, one ground and one turn signal wire
lol this is exactly what i was looking for ! first thing i clicked ! ty will give it a try {:-)
soylent goy ,good day bro ,did u do it successfully? Can u please tell me how u connect the wires from the relay to the lights?tnx in advance bro
Do I have to turn on my parking lights or does this work once I start my car?
Thanks man! I knew it would involve a relay but like you said, “usually closed” ones are hard to find and I didn’t think of this. Awesome vid
" “usually closed” ones are hard to find" WTF are you talking about? They are in every modern car. They can be found in EVERY auto parts store.
If I connect pin 30 to a positive ignition wire and leave everything as you have it. This will cause the side marker to always be on as soon as you open ignition correct? And then when hitting the turn signals still work?? Thanks!!
Just wired my motorcyle by this tech tip .. thanks for the video !
arlan navasa Hi I know it’s a while now but I need some help I did my motorcycle but I am having some faded light on the dash do you remember how you did it please
@@rickybritish do you have a single bulb in your dash ?
arlan navasa I want to do it for my bike Yamaha R1 but something don’t seem right the I wire the relay my indicator work but on my motorcycle dash if I turn the right indicator there is a faded light on the other side on the dash.I have a video of how I wire mine.
arlan navasa ruclips.net/video/b0Kfc1pMWvg/видео.html
arlan navasa can you tell me where I went wrong
Can I connected directly to the side marker?
so for example is pin 85 left and pin 86 right? for indicators?
Hey man, I can't thank you enough for this info. Never thought about the "never used" 87a !! I've just been accepting that my negative will back feed and always have my turn arrows on my dash LOL. Now it works perfect and much brighter because of no back feed and relay in general. Again, this is priceless, at least for this ol boy.
Will they blink inverted after you do this?
So the blinkers only work if the tail lights are on?
I understood the video fine, but what can be added to get rid of the alternating flash any ideas?
I am wondering the same!!
This method works but whichever lights you use this method on will blink offset of the factory ones.
Hi I am trying to connect my motorcycle side light,but I don’t understand the way you connect it can you walk me through please.
If you want to make it to where the turn signal still works when the parking/running lights are off, make 87A always hot, make 85 the power wire for the turn signal, and make 86 the power wire for the parking/ running lights. This works on the principal that if you hook 12 volts to both sides of a component, there is no flow of energy. The component turns off. This only works if the computer grounds turn and parking light wires when they are turned off, and I think most do but I could be wrong
So has i understand. It wont work. Because 86 and 85 needs power to activate. Lets say its true the current will not flow when they are activated..m but neither it will it its turn of. Thus the relay will do nothing. And by having constant power to 87A then the 87 or 30 will have comstant poner untill the relay activates to change the conection to one pin to another
@@yunarukami6118 I misspoke. Everything is the same except 87 is the constant power, not 87A. With pin 30 being the output to the led turn signal/ running light. This only works when the computer grounds the power wires when they are switched off. When only one side of the relay has power and the other side is grounded by being off the light comes on. This way the turn signal works when the running lights are off as well as when they are on. When the running lights are on the turn signal will flash at the opposite time the normal turn signal would. The relay is only necessary because the bulb is LED. Many trucks use the side marker light as a turn signal by hooking the power wire for running lights to one side and power for turn signal to the other side
So 87a just has to be grounded?
This requires the running lights to be constant "on" to work. Is there a way to have the blinker work in this circuit if you have a switch for the running lights and decide to keep the running lights off during the daytime? How then would the blinkers work with no power to draw from the running lights to blink?
Basically the same question I've been wondering
This is the reason why im here. I manage to mske this exact circuit on my own. But i need it yo make it work even if the daytime light sre off. Sooo. Did you find anything or not?🤔
Any update on this? A diagram would be great
Nice 💯 💯 💯 any helps to make in my mazda 6
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Do I need to add a relay for each light?
left side will need one, right side will need one.
Btw those are compact, solid & badnass little bright lights. What or where are they from!
Those came from the retrofit source but I don't remember what they were exactly called. I think they might have been like Moto pods or something like that
Hi there, 1 relay is enough for both sides or I need another one? Thanks
You need one per side so they can blink individually
Exactly what I wanted to know.
Ok could I do this on my bike I have 3 wires coming from the bike and my new running light is only two wires but I want it to blink too
BIKE:
Black ground
Blue running light
Purple turn
RUNNING LIGHT
power yellow
Ground black
How would I hook this up
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Dalton456: can you please explain exactly what you mean by for 87a and 86? I little confusion here. Thanks!
“Ground side marker back to parking light”? Confused here. Should it just be grounded or to the NONMARKER ground.
Will the lights blink opposite of the turn signal??? I wanna wire my running board lights up to double as turn signals but I want them to flash in sync with my stock turn signal
Craig Harris yes they flash opposite to the normal ones. I'm not quite savvy enough to make them flash at the same time
dalton456 I found a part that should make my lights work in sync. It’s called blinker genie 2
@Marylandcowboy I did try the blinker genie. It didn’t work
Blinker genie doesnt work
I did this and when I turn my turn signals on and they turn on the parking light doesn’t turn back on how do I fix this
Can you provide a diagram on paper please...I'm a bit confused but love the idea. Thanks
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forgot i even made that diagram
Can i do the same to my signal lights?thnks
JS23 atCDO what do you mean? And what kind of car
Will the turn signal work if the running lights are off
No not using this method u can do it with this relay forget what this guy says completely and look up how to wire light on 5 pin relay some really good vids out there
Trying to decide if I want to do this or just add another pair of lights and wire those to the Parking light. Yeah it'd be two side marker lights on each side (one pair for turn, one pair for markers), but I hate having to buy more stuff. $16 each?.... ugh
you could buy them online cheaper, I just used the ones from the auto parts store because i wanted to do it that day. you could probably get both relays with sockets for less than 20 bucks
Get the relays at a junkyard I go there all the time get extra bulbs fuses all kinds of doodads
Couldn't i just splice into the xisting factory marker \ blinker wire harness.???
depends what you're trying to do, and if you are using a halogen or led bulb
dalton456 yea basically would be doing exactly what you're doing with L E D .....( both sides) otherwise why bother... Just seems though it would be more efficient..
you cant wire the led across the wires to light up solid and blink, but you can do it with a halogen bulb. the reason you cant with a led is because it is a diode and only allows current to flow one way, while a regular halogen bulb can pass current either way.
Are all 5 pin relays the same?
I would say for the most part yes but the terminals may do different functions or be rated for different amperages or voltages
@@dalton456 ok I found some on Amazon just didn't know if they were different
Would this work with a led strip? If I put the led strip in my side marker with no light and use this method will it work?
You could use a 20 watt 6 ohm ceramic load resistor and it'll prevent your hyper flashing
So I am seeing this as
30 12V input, in this case running light in
85 Turn Signal input
86 Ground
87 not used
87A Output to your Light
Light has its own ground
Am I seeing this right?
I would like to know this as well!
Matt Glandorf ,good day bro.did u done it successfully? How was it? Im affraid to try this on my car though i really want it but i need to know more about wiring the relay to the park and signal lights clearly.hope you can help me bro.thanks in advance bro,good day
@@toyconph3642 a simple led light will do absolutely nothing if you mess up the wiring, try it out if you fail take it all out and go back to the drawing board unless you mess with more major electrical circuits you won't really risk anything by failing other than possible screwing up an existing circuit you try to splice into (trying to tap into turn signals and instead making neither the turn signal nor your addition work) not much risk other than hurting your ego
If your vehicle has CAN or separate factory modules then it’s not advisable to do this... A classic Volvo 240 isn’t a problem.
You don’t say what 87a is supposed to go to off the relay cube... does anyone know?
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dalton456 this was incredibly helpful! I’m satisfied not the perfect ideal world but satisfied. Side markers lights only become signal flashers when running lights are on. If no running lights on they will not flash when signaling. Is that peculiar?
Tried this on my 94 Jeep Wrangler. Everything works fine with the headlights on. I get the running light and blinker but once the headlights are off I lose blinker. Any ideas? I've been trying every wire configuration I can find and am still stumped.
Sean McD good day bro,did u already fix yours? Please tell me what u did.thanks in advance bro
with this setup they will only blink when the lights are on. like this.
lights on the blinker breaks the the flow of power and turns the light off.
lights off the blinker has no power flow to to break
to fix this you will need a light that is dual function (as in 2 hot 1 ground) 1 hot marker 1 hot blinker 1 shared ground .
Have you tried putting Pin 30 with a positive ignition wire? Causing it to activate as soon as you turn on car and make the turn signals work everytime?
Diagram would help
This is great , but can you make a video where my slow brain can understand ? Thanks in advance
Problem.with your set up is when the Parklight is off the side marker does not do blinking when signal light is activated
yes this is the one drawback to doing it the way I did. in my case I ride with the headlights on even during the day, so it isn't really an issue. this was the simplest way i could think to do it off of the top of my head that would still work with an led bulb.
great video
Great video, have you tried to solve this drawback?
You could technically wire your Fender lights to straight positive (switched) and then use your turn relay on your blinkers.
That way they will stay on whenever your car turns on and whenever you're blinker blinks it'll blink too
@@je2854 can you send me a diagram of what you mean?
Do you have diagram of this? I still can't get the light (sidemarker) stays on...
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Thanks a lot!
Can you give me a diagram Sir?
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Thank you very much
I dont have side marker (+) for 87A any tips on where to connect 87A?
Has anyone a more detailed video?
This video was way more confusing than helpful.
You really should make a much better video. It’s hard to understand your explanation
If people who go to YT already know the terminologies and which wires to connect they wouldn't need to go to YT. But they still end up going only to find there's no solution given by any of these videos.
there is a diagram provided, and this is somewhat universal circuit. The bottom of the relays are numbered, not sure what more you want because this video is not meant to explain what a relay is and how it works
@@dalton456 yeah pretty vague for someone looking for help thats not good with wiring not to mention the wiring explauned in the video is wrong to how it should b done so confusing a confused person even more hurts more than help
can you make a better video
At least wire diagram if you want to get more likes and subscribers