No.077 - Agilent E3633A Power Supply Repair

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  • Опубликовано: 19 окт 2024
  • In this video I repair an Agilent E3633A Linear Power Supply. Multiple faults & problems made for an interesting repair.
    Here's the finished power supply:
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    Display board firmware (80C51):
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    Note: If you buy the AT89S51-24JU then it can be programmed with the MiniPro TL866A
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Комментарии • 104

  • @largepimping
    @largepimping 3 года назад +15

    Ian, I can't tell you how much I appreciate these videos. Thank you.

  • @GadgetUK164
    @GadgetUK164 3 года назад +3

    Wow, excellent repair! Lucky that MCU was readable (and not protected!!) - incredible job =D

    • @IanScottJohnston
      @IanScottJohnston  3 года назад +1

      I searched high and low online for the firmware for the E3633A but couldn't find it.....so yep I was lucky!

    • @rlgrlg-oh6cc
      @rlgrlg-oh6cc 3 года назад +2

      Maybe post it on your website for others?

    • @IanScottJohnston
      @IanScottJohnston  3 года назад +1

      @@rlgrlg-oh6cc It's in the video description above, and also my website now.

  • @tonybell1597
    @tonybell1597 3 года назад +5

    Ian, as per previous comment, I CAN tell you how much I appreciate these videos, they are Superb, and give me a huge ammount of pleasure, keep htem coming :-)

  • @artursmihelsons415
    @artursmihelsons415 3 года назад +5

    Wow! This was very interesting repair. Luckily, You can read that damaged MCU.. 👍
    Multiple times in repairs, I get in situations, when MCU were shorted and readouts wasn't possible.. Second situation when read out fails, is when manufacturers put protection (usually, on newer MCU's).
    Great repair video, enjoyed it! 😉

  • @gordonwedman3179
    @gordonwedman3179 3 года назад +2

    Excellent job there. Very interesting. When I saw that socket for the microcontroller I thought to myself "that thing is big, wonder if it will fit". Just made it!

  • @vincei4252
    @vincei4252 3 года назад +1

    Very cool. I bought a 120V DC 10 Amp HP PSU on eBay which looked to be in good condition and powered up. The seller shipped it so poorly the unit arrived with the entire front panel smashed off. Thankfully the seller gave me full refund and apologized for their "mistake". I now have to evaluate whether the thing is reparable and hopefully the PCB,LCD, keypad, etc aren't irreparably damaged.

  • @jasonatkin6787
    @jasonatkin6787 Год назад

    Dang, talk about going the extra mile in a repair. Very inspirational, keep up the amazing work!

    • @IanScottJohnston
      @IanScottJohnston  Год назад

      Thanks!.......If you want to see the extra-extra mile see my Keithley 2001 DMM repair, 6 videos!

  • @keithlambell1970
    @keithlambell1970 3 года назад +3

    Amazing patience and skill. Great work.

  • @MrDomyboy
    @MrDomyboy 3 года назад +4

    First class Ian. Superb.

  • @dannyclifford7874
    @dannyclifford7874 3 года назад +2

    Top drawer Ian top drawer ! Great technique and explanations.

  • @NguyenPhuMan00
    @NguyenPhuMan00 3 года назад +2

    I also have an E3633A and this video might be helpful in the future.
    Thank you for the excellent video.
    Please keep them coming.

  • @jwrtiger
    @jwrtiger 3 года назад +3

    OK, color me impressed!

  • @TheRadioShop
    @TheRadioShop 3 года назад +2

    Nice repair, Good job!

  • @piconano
    @piconano 3 года назад +2

    Nice repair.

  • @ickipoo
    @ickipoo 3 года назад +3

    I love these repairs! Keep 'em coming!

  • @rrb6544
    @rrb6544 3 года назад +2

    That is a HUGE transformer! XD

  • @fabiom7104
    @fabiom7104 3 года назад +3

    Wow! it was as usual incredible instructive. Ian, thank you for sharing your knowledge and your experience. ;-)

  • @Blowcrafter
    @Blowcrafter 2 года назад +1

    Nice Video and great courage to even attempt to safe a unit this broken :D
    Just a hint btw... don't connect a big dc bus to the thing before discharging it, that tends to end in tears. Don't ask me how i know :P

  • @mixolydian2010
    @mixolydian2010 Год назад

    Nice, well done. Enjoyed the repair. Cheers

  • @andymouse
    @andymouse 3 года назад +2

    Nice fix....cheers.

  • @IanScottJohnston
    @IanScottJohnston  3 года назад +5

    Here's the finished power supply:
    www.ianjohnston.com/images/stories/IanJ/E3633A/E3633ApsuRepair.png
    Notes:
    Why did I use a 32K 89C51RC2........well, the 4K 89S51 which is the natural replacement is on backorder 2022 delivery with RS, Farnell & Digikey.....ugghh!
    Note: If you buy the AT89S51-24JU then it can be programmed with the MiniPro TL866A

    • @BoB4jjjjs
      @BoB4jjjjs 3 года назад +2

      That power supply looks like new in the photo, of course it would with a new front, but you would never think it had been repaired. We know otherwise of course, but if we hadn't known we would be none the wiser! :-))

  • @jeffm2787
    @jeffm2787 3 года назад +2

    Nice work.

  • @doscucharas
    @doscucharas 3 года назад +1

    Truly outstanding repair! But, closure man! Show the new front panel going on, all nice and tidy, looking new again, etc. Would of finished off the video nicely ;) Well done, awesome work.

    • @IanScottJohnston
      @IanScottJohnston  3 года назад

      There's a photo in the video notes above.

    • @doscucharas
      @doscucharas 3 года назад +1

      @@IanScottJohnston So there is. Nice 👍

  • @rickolson9011
    @rickolson9011 3 года назад +2

    Well done!

  • @BoB4jjjjs
    @BoB4jjjjs 3 года назад +2

    Brilliant repair sir, well done :-))

  • @davecc0000
    @davecc0000 3 года назад +3

    When pulling off old tape or labels, use a heat gun to lightly heat the tape/label before pulling it off. In my experience, often the adhesive will "come to life" a little and separate from the mounting surface leaving less "stuff" behind. Of course, use heat sparingly depending on what the surface material is (plastic, etc.)--you don't want to melt it!

    • @IanScottJohnston
      @IanScottJohnston  3 года назад +1

      Good advice!....In this case IPA made quick work of the tape adhesive but yup, thats not always the case.

  • @TeslaTales59
    @TeslaTales59 3 года назад +1

    fab repair

  • @stephanc7192
    @stephanc7192 3 года назад +1

    Amazing skills!

  • @Chris_Grossman
    @Chris_Grossman 3 года назад +2

    good job!

  • @TKomoski
    @TKomoski 3 года назад +3

    I need to fix the encoder in my E3631A

  • @TorPaulin
    @TorPaulin 2 года назад

    Interesting repair! :)

  • @smunaut
    @smunaut 3 года назад +2

    Do you know if the display board firmware is the same for all that series of supply or is it custom for each model ?
    I think it's fairly common to have one of those IC fail and then there is nothing you can do without the firmware ...

    • @IanScottJohnston
      @IanScottJohnston  3 года назад +2

      That did cross my mind, and I compared the firmware for the E3633A and the E3646A and they appear the same. I don't have any display firmware for any others so not entirely sure.

  • @gillywild
    @gillywild 3 года назад +3

    Hi Ian, Excellent job on that psu. Had me on the edge of my seat. Do you think you could do a video on the reading and reprogramming of microprocessors proms etc. in depth if poss. This is a skill I sadly don't possess yet. Cheers, Gillian.

    • @IanScottJohnston
      @IanScottJohnston  3 года назад +4

      Glad you enjoyed the repair.......
      Nice idea about programming proms etc......I could probably do something around the address/data buses and how they work, and it's quite interesting how old Eproms are programmed (50mS pulses etc).

    • @gillywild
      @gillywild 3 года назад +1

      @@IanScottJohnston Thank you Ian :) A “from the start” would be of most interest to me. I’m amazed tbh that they are not all protected. I suppose I assumed that they were. Atb, G.

  • @TheDefpom
    @TheDefpom 3 года назад +2

    @32:00 that symptom was exactly the same as one I had on a unit I fixed, it was due to the microcontroller being dead, I had to replace it.

  • @williefleete
    @williefleete 3 года назад +2

    I reckon the controller had some SCR latch up and the resulting semiconductors turned into a resistor

  • @AllElectronicsChannel
    @AllElectronicsChannel 3 года назад +2

    Can't believe it came to life!! Would you sell me these colored rings of the connectors? 🙃🙃

  • @amirb715
    @amirb715 3 года назад +2

    wow! fantastic job replacing that micro. Never seen a micro "working" and yet having a near short inside. What is the programmer that you are using?

    • @IanScottJohnston
      @IanScottJohnston  3 года назад +1

      It's Dataman S4, I did a restoration job on it here,
      ruclips.net/video/qJi7C7huhHQ/видео.html

    • @BoB4jjjjs
      @BoB4jjjjs 3 года назад +1

      @@IanScottJohnston Ah, a face to the voice :-))

  • @claude77573
    @claude77573 2 месяца назад

    Your videos are always great, thank you! I have a E3633A that fails the OCP calibration. I have replaced all the electrolytic capacitors, but that didn't help. OCP works within spec. In fact, all the verification tests are within spec. Can you give me some insight as to how the E3633A calibrates the OCP? I have looked around, but could not find anything. Thank you.

  • @JensPeterSecher
    @JensPeterSecher 3 года назад +2

    Great repair. Again. Why did you leave the other RIFAs in?

    • @IanScottJohnston
      @IanScottJohnston  3 года назад +1

      I've never had a problem with the smaller RIFA's, so just left them fitted. I should really buy some compatible caps I guess.

  • @douro20
    @douro20 3 года назад +2

    Did you replace the 78L05 as well? I wouldn't depend on it after what happened.

    • @IanScottJohnston
      @IanScottJohnston  3 года назад +1

      The overload was within spec for the 5v regulator and thats why it was able to maintain 5Vdc output. If it had been pulled down from 5Vdc then I'd have replaced it.
      It's the resistors that were way beyond their power rating.

    • @Brian_Of_Melbourne
      @Brian_Of_Melbourne 3 года назад

      @@IanScottJohnston Surprised that you didn't measure the voltage across the 14 Ohm resistors at around 32:00, this would have revealed the current. It's a great diagnostic (as I'm sure you know) to know the current in situations like this.

  • @brunofonseca9686
    @brunofonseca9686 3 года назад +2

    Ian, do you know if there are any EPROM devices similar to the S4 on Aliexpress? S4 is on a professional level, almost 4 grand. I wonder if the plethora of cheaper devices on Aliexpress would be able to do that.

    • @IanScottJohnston
      @IanScottJohnston  3 года назад +1

      The TL866II Plus might do the job if you also get a DIP to 44pin PLCC adaptor.
      I have the older version (non Plus) so I might make a wee video to try it out.

  • @Ozzy3333333
    @Ozzy3333333 3 года назад +2

    Great fix! I have 3 of these exact supplies at work, where did you get the schematic?

    • @IanScottJohnston
      @IanScottJohnston  3 года назад +1

      The set of schematics and board layouts are at the back of the Service Manual which you can find dotted around the web.

    • @Ozzy3333333
      @Ozzy3333333 3 года назад

      @@IanScottJohnston Hey thanks. Another way to TS intermittent issues, is heat and freeze spray, I always use heat first (with a thin piece of cardboard to direct/section off areas), I think the solder issue and the mpu issue could of been found this way. If heat does not give me clues, then I try the freeze spray. Thanks again.

  • @eddyfontaineyoutu100
    @eddyfontaineyoutu100 3 года назад +2

    👍👍👍 !

  • @dimmog
    @dimmog 3 года назад +2

    Looks like the transformer is quite noisy on high current output. The result of the drop?

    • @IanScottJohnston
      @IanScottJohnston  3 года назад +2

      To be expected given the loads and since the covers weren't fitted. I'll see when I test it again with the covers on. The transformer is a brute of a thing, I reckon it can handle a drop or two, but it is possible the eddy currents are distrurbed!

    • @BoB4jjjjs
      @BoB4jjjjs 3 года назад +1

      @@IanScottJohnston I am surprised the transformer didn't break loose and cause a lot of damage!

  • @johnwilliamson467
    @johnwilliamson467 3 года назад +2

    So was it a proper metric spanner ? Nice video.

    • @BoB4jjjjs
      @BoB4jjjjs 3 года назад +1

      You know, you get them with metric on one side and imperial on the other, so it fits both types of bolts and nuts :-P lol ;-))

    • @johnwilliamson467
      @johnwilliamson467 3 года назад

      @@BoB4jjjjs So do you use the left metric right imperial or the special order that I prefer being left handed the imperial left metric right handed ones.

  • @mitkothemacedonian
    @mitkothemacedonian 3 года назад +2

    The cap came out of the socket :-)

  • @johnbaker26
    @johnbaker26 4 месяца назад

    Hey thanks for the video. I'm about to tear into an E3634a and this was a great intro to what lies ahead. One question, why did you only replace the X2 RIFA cap? Why not the two smaller 1000pf across each side to ground? I believe these are Y2 so they never go short and shock anyone who grabs the case.

    • @IanScottJohnston
      @IanScottJohnston  4 месяца назад

      Yes, they should have been changed out......but generally, they don't fail as much as the bigger ones in my experience.

    • @johnbaker26
      @johnbaker26 4 месяца назад

      Great thanks for the quick reply!

  • @TheSoundtec
    @TheSoundtec 3 года назад +2

    How about a Agilent 6611C, ? Id pay to see that. I have one driving me insane and no schematic to be found. No output.

    • @IanScottJohnston
      @IanScottJohnston  3 года назад +1

      I did repair one here albeit an easy fault.
      ruclips.net/video/0YNwTAyRcJU/видео.html

    • @TheSoundtec
      @TheSoundtec 3 года назад

      @@IanScottJohnston Any ideas where to find a schematic or buy a digital PCB so I could narrow it down? Love your videos, i'm a big fan!

    • @BoB4jjjjs
      @BoB4jjjjs 3 года назад

      @@TheSoundtec Does this help? www.manualslib.com/manual/2871/Agilent-Technologies-6611c.html?page=54#manual

    • @TheSoundtec
      @TheSoundtec 3 года назад

      @@BoB4jjjjs Thanks but not much there. More like a block diagram. I know the prob . is on the A2 board and no information in that manual.. Thanks for trying.

  • @TheDefpom
    @TheDefpom 3 года назад +3

    Please share the microcontroller code somewhere for the next person that needs it, it might be me LOL.

    • @IanScottJohnston
      @IanScottJohnston  3 года назад +1

      I will, just had to make sure the extracted data from the 80C51 wasn't corrupt......thankfully it wasn't.

    • @TheDefpom
      @TheDefpom 3 года назад +1

      @@IanScottJohnston Actually, email it to me please Ian, I will add it to my files, it is possible I will get one of those one day.

    • @IanScottJohnston
      @IanScottJohnston  3 года назад +1

      @@TheDefpom I've added a link to it in the video description above.

    • @TheDefpom
      @TheDefpom 3 года назад +1

      @@IanScottJohnston thanks... I have now added it to my files.

  • @simontay4851
    @simontay4851 3 года назад +2

    It really must've been dropped from a great height to have the front damaged that badly.

    • @IanScottJohnston
      @IanScottJohnston  3 года назад +3

      ......or pushed! Chances are high the department in question just fancied some new power supplies. 2nd one from this seller I have bought all smashed up.

    • @ickipoo
      @ickipoo 3 года назад +2

      My guess would be "chucked in the skip" , obviously by someone who didn't know what they had.

  • @TKomoski
    @TKomoski 3 года назад +3

    Knackered

  • @NguyenPhuMan00
    @NguyenPhuMan00 3 года назад

    My E3633A passes the complete self-test with no error. However, when I turn the output on, the unit goes in to "Unreg" unregulated. Neither CC or CV are lit. The voltage and current are not adjustable and only -0.3V output.
    Does anyone know the problem?

    • @IanScottJohnston
      @IanScottJohnston  3 года назад +1

      This can happen when the PSU can't somehow regulate the correct voltage in CV mode. It can be experienced if say when charging a large battery and eventually the battery voltage over-volts the output from the PSU, the PSU recognizes that and you get UNREG displayed.
      But as you aren't connecting any load then it sounds like there's a fault in the circuit somewhere........but it could be anywhere and so would require an investigation of the analogue and digital circuits......much like I did in this video.

    • @NguyenPhuMan00
      @NguyenPhuMan00 3 года назад

      @@IanScottJohnston thank you

  • @EEVblog
    @EEVblog 3 года назад

    Is that that infamous Israeli seller?

    • @IanScottJohnston
      @IanScottJohnston  3 года назад

      Yep it is. Thats the 2nd or 3rd Agilent PSU I've had from them. The other ones were just as broken!

  • @twobob
    @twobob 2 года назад

    And to think I mocked that configuration. Clearly the Solartron peoples were genuis's's's.

  • @Darryl603
    @Darryl603 3 года назад +2

    Alcohol displaces water

    • @BoB4jjjjs
      @BoB4jjjjs 3 года назад +1

      Is that why I dry out when I drink too much? I don't drink at all these days, well, maybe a pint if out for a meal, but that has not happened for a while now. Thanks Covid :-((

    • @IanScottJohnston
      @IanScottJohnston  3 года назад +2

      Yeah, me n the ball & chain were out for an Italian last weekend first time in 18months!

    • @BoB4jjjjs
      @BoB4jjjjs 3 года назад

      @@IanScottJohnston I hope it was a nice meal :-))