How much weight can the shelves hold when they're screwed into studs? I have A LOT of clothes and want to out even more weight with shoe racks just sitting on top.
Jeff saves the day...again. I live in an apartment, and I usually get a FAST response time when I put in a maintenance request. The only problem? The maintenance guys suck. They also don't even know what a studfinder is, and the shelf inevitably collapses again and again. Invested in good impact drill, a good set of bits, and hardware you recommended. Super easy fix, done correctly. This shelf is not going anywhere. Thank you RUclips Dad!
Thank you for this 😭 I was thinking “dang… actually having a dad to give me advice on what to do sure would be nice right now” and BOOM - up came your video and I was happy to watch from start to finish 💜 Learned a lot! A wholehearted thanks 🙏🏽
I cannot thank you enough for this video. Sometimes I am amazed at how everything I need is on RUclips. My friend jokes that she calls RUclips “dad” because all of the things you wish a dad would have taught you are here. Thank you. My shelf came crashing down over the past few days and it has been an ordeal trying to deal with it both mentally and physically. I wouldn’t have been able to fix it without this video. I am also going to go and proactively secure the other ones as well.
I needed this information so badly. I’m one of those with a lot of clothes hanging in the closet & the shelves have fallen, been fixed (by a professional) and are now sagging. This ends today now that I know the correct tools & process. Thank You!
Thanks for making this video! This literally happened in our closet this weekend. We bought a brand new house, and the wife was hanging clothes in the closet and when she put something on the shelf and the whole thing came crashing down exactly how you described it. So I started researching how to repair it and this was the first video that popped up. It appears that they drilled in between the studs.
Yes indeed, that's how they all do it. The closet shelf installation people that builders use are the least talented of all the trades. Hope works out for you now that you know how to repair it.
@@jeffostroff Just so I am clear, you said the E-Z Ancor Self Drilling Toggle Anchors can support up to 100 pounds each? And that is without drilling them into a stud? I ask because the wall that shelf was on looks like, and I have to double check it, that the studs are at the corners, nothing in the middle. It is an odd location to begin with.
@@bw33511 Yes, the EZ Ancors are specked and designed for drilling into open space between studs, that is what the 100 lb rating is for, you don't need EZ Ancors when going into a stud, you just need a screw to go into the stud.
Fun when the shelf pulls off your wall at 1am...so I get to do this after a run to the hardware store in the morning, because I definitely don't trust apartment maintenance to do it right (their track record is abysmal) Thanks for the easy instructions, truly. And links to materials.
You're absolutely correct I've worked for a big Builder for decades and the shelving contractors we hire just throw shelves up as quick as possible never hitting a stud never using the proper anchors if there is no stud and I'm sure later on down the road the shelving comes down and the homeowner has to pay a carpenter to reinstall them properly
My closet fell out of my closet a few months ago and maintainence is nice and they try but the closet is a mess. I'm definitely doing this! Thanks, Jeff!!
Previous home owner installed his closet shelves into the drywall with weak drywall anchors and some with no anchors. One day all my closet hardware dropped and I redid my whole closet from paint, patching and new shelf closet installation. Install your screws into some of the studs! It will help tremendously
All the work in my rental apartment was done haphazardly. Last week the whole oven hood fell on me and yesterday the closet system crashed. Luckily I haven’t been killed yet! This video is certainly helpful.
@@janeolinger8038 I'm also renting an appt and new in the US. who should fix it if the shelves fall apart? Should I call the maintainance and have it fixed or should i do it myself?
Vertical pieces of plywood perpendicular to the shelf running from the shelf to the ceiling (and attached to the wall) will strengthen the shelves tremendously. It will also transfer more of the load to the walls, off of the joists/trusses. 2:21
At 24:10, when you're talking about the bracket being loose and wanting to pop up - it's because you're supposed to put that split (forked tongue) on the bracket underneath one of the thin wires that is perpendicular to the wall to keep it locked in place. It offers a little bit of support for weight, but mainly it's there to keep the bracket in place as people are moving hangers from one side to another. Yes, it still needs to be perfectly against the big wire to support the weight.
Yes that's what stinks about that design, it must be perfect or it will not hold. What worries me is what happens over time as people start to put more and more clothing on their shelves an that adds additional weight and it causes the shelf to flex now it will lose its mechanical advantage
Yep - happened in my fiancé’s closet 3 weeks ago - and mine yesterday - mine was definitely overloaded (heehee). I’m thinking of getting a system with some tall cabinets - or doing custom ones myself. I’m gonna think about it while my clothes take a much needed rest on the floor - LOL.
Such a bizarre design for the brackets, I just bought a pair and the notch is too shallow, so they don't even fit their own product in the intended way.
Great video. Definitely here because my shelf has fallen for the 3rd time. Different houses but still.. camera wasn’t focused on the right areas throughout the video lol but I got the point
"Has this happened to you..." Why, yes, sir. Just last night and I didn't pick anything up until this morning because I didn't even want to deal with it 🤣
Jeff, Thanks for this video. I've been wishing my dad had taught me to do this stuff. So, greatful you're here. I couldn't agree more. The builder did a horrendous job of installing the closet systems in this house. I have lots of really heavy coats, linens, etc. Between Rubbermaid and Closetmaid, which system do you prefer or consider to be the strongest? Thanks for answering in advance.
Leona, I have only used the Shelf track so far, but I assume the fast track is the same as long as it is screwed into studs, I love the closet maid shelf track for it's stability and expandability and you can rearrange the shelves
The shelf brackets don't pop up if you install them correctly with the small wire into the groove that is designed to have the wire go through it and it makes it impossible to push up.
Great video Jeff. Thanks for explaining issues with these shelves and how to fix them. I am having the same problem in my new home and 2 of my shelves already fell down.
Hi Jeff, I just wanted to say thank you for your very detailed video and I’m going to attempt to try and do this myself as a single lady but I am pretty efficient… Just wanted to say thank you for putting all the parts on your video with the Amazon links I found that to be super helpful as I was about to walk into Lowe’s scratching my head… So I’m going to repair the holes in my wall and then I’m gonna start your project here and hopefully I can fix it myself or else I might have to call you here in Florida. Thank you So much for your help and insight. Your video made me laugh because you sound exactly like my dad and my dad is very efficient and helping but now he’s a senior and I have to try and do this myself
@@jeffostroff So my shelf pulled out leaving holes in my sheet rock. I repaired the holes yesterday, and I am ordering the supplies. All my wall clips broke and I was wondering if you have a video on how to install the wall clips so it lines up with the rack.. Any tips? I don't want to put the wall clips where I did the repair.
This happened to me too! Great video. Do you also recommend using the Ez anchors for securing the plastic clips to attach the shelf to the wall ? I can’t tell from the video because they are already secured. Thanks in advance.
The plastic clips armor to control the vertical direction of the shelf and just to help keep it in place as a secondary anchor. I still however do not use any plastic anchors whatsoever you might be OK with that as your secondary but I for my own personal experience will always install the easy anchors wherever there needs to be a screw attachment
Thank you!! We moved into a house and the closet shelf came crashing down as soon as I started hanging clothes 😒. Can't wait to install it correctly and get out closet together!
Thank you so much for this video. My shelf fell down just last month. I definitely agree about the poor design. Mine had actually stayed up without problem for over twenty years but, when I removed all the stuff I stored in crates on the shelf, the weight of the hanging clothes made the back of the shelf pop out of the clips, and down it all came. To be fair, there were more clothes than usual hanging from the shelf; I usually put out of season up in the attic but had neglected to do so last Winter.
If the builder had installed it correctly the 1st time screwing it directly into the studs it would not have fallen off no matter how much weight you put on it.
Great video!!!!! This happened to us this weekend this is the best video explaining how to repair it yourself. When connecting the first support bracket in the video (18:17 mark), was a steal anchor used? I believe there was a metal stud but not sure if an anchor was used due to the editing of the video.
Thank you so much...I just had to redo my closet. NONE were in the studs. I put them all in the studs but my shelf is popping...I didn't know to have clips opposing. I will redo my shelf.
We recently moved in to my husband's grandmas home after she passed away and she was very old and sick so she put hardly any wear on her home to see.how poorly it was built and we've been replacing cabinets because they just fall off from.not having the proper screws.... Anyways the entire walk in closet collapsed and I will be following your advice to fix this... Thanks so much 😩😥😥
Thank you for the tutorial, Jeff. We used your video to fix two of our closets. Quick question - do you have guidance on longevity of such a repair? Thanks
If you are able to get At least one screw into the stud for each wire shelf it should lost permanently. If you used just the anchors that we showed you it will last as long as the dry wall llasts.
Im an engineer as well, but you have factor time and money into the job. These wire rack kits were NOT designed to go into studs. They are supplied with nothing but dry wall anchors. Also, when doing stud finding in a closet, you may end up hitting an electrical line, fresh water line, or sewage some stud finders do detect electric. A potential buyer may not want the wire racks at all. Now you have screws ran through studs instead of sheet rock, good luck repairing your studs. The most common failure point is the plastic anchors. After 15 years or so, they will start to crack/crumble apart. During a build, the wire racks are the last thing to go in and will take a general contractor under an hour to install.
The wire shelf kit manufacturers are stupid and cheap only concerned with giving barebones solutions, They are not supplied with the correct parts to go into studs, but any shelf that anyone installs should go into a stud or have a good solid drywall anchor that opens up like wings and grabs the back of the drywall once inserted, or screwas should go into studs. Also, wiring per code is in the middle of the wall, 1 1/5" in. You should never use a screw longer than 1 1/4" to avoid hitting wires. You know when you find a stud, and I also use magnets to find drywall screws into studs to confirm. A hole in stud is not a problem from a screw at all, and a buyer not wanting the wire shelves can easily stick some Dap on the hole to fill it in.
I have one of these in a bedroom closet which also shares room with a hot water heater on one end which means that there is only an end cap on one of the ends since the wire closet rod / shelf unit stops before it gets to the hot water heater and does not meet this side of the closet wall. Do you have suggestions in a case such as this? This has collapsed again since being reinstalled by maintenance at my apartment complex. I have forwarded your video to them with the listing of the supplies that you used but am also wondering if a different type of closet rod system would be a better application than this wire closet shelf unit.
That came out amazing. Had to fast forward through a bit of it since I'm at work but will come back to watch it all the way through. 😉😉😁😁 you think this would be nice for outside up against a wall with plants? 4:34
I am actually not a fan of wire shelving, so I would choose something else for outdoors. I'm also not sure if these are rates for outdoors, as the cut end of the metal wire shelves are exposed, even though you can put plastic caps on them, just not sure how they would do.
If started w/ the basic shelf as one repairing can those shelves be used w/ the ShelfTrack system? They appear to be the same shelves.......makes sense to upgrade to that system using the original shelving. Is that possible?
I've done this, but I had a specific place regardless of studs or not lol. I've been holding strong two years now. My trick was after assembly. I placed gorrila glue around my screws for extra support. It may not be the correct way however it works. It doesn't move at all.
Gorilla glue is helping it act as an anchor. If you really glob it on and push globs into the hole, it might create a nice rim inside the hole in the wall, making it hard for the screw to get ripped out.
HI,Ii was wondering you could use the shelf track system if you have metal studs if I switch to one. I hit metal studs so I wasn't able to drill into it for the closetmaid freestanding wire shelf and I ripped out the drywall because of the crapper anchors they come with. The closet is on the backside of the washroom so I'm also concerned about hitting a pipe. Can you specify the screws and anchors used? I can't seem to find the drywall one thanks!
Mariam, for metal studs, you need a fine thread drywall screw that is specifically made for metal studs, here it is: amzn.to/2Cf6Aj4 Also sometimes drilling them into metal studs can be a challenge, it will sit there and spin and spin and sometimes never seem like it will go in. So sometimes I get a 1/16" drill bit and drill a pilot hole into the metal stud first, then the tip of this drywall screw will pierce right through the pilot hole.
Jeff, HELP? I mistakenly removed the center support from a wire shelf that was in the stud. How do I repair it now? Do I have to move away from using the stud or is there a way to rig something that works? The builder used a drywall anchor rather than a wood screw. Will the center support still work if it's a little off-center? Is that wise?
Just buy a 2" long screw and screw it into the stud, right through where the builder's anchor was. Get a screw long enough to reach back into the wood stud by 1".
Hello, I have put my brackets the way you have showed me in this tutorial; however I use the shelf for coats, jackets etc.... and it almost like the coats & jackets are to heavy for the brackets. they keep bending and the shelf will fall because of the brackets. I screwed everything to the stud so that part is fine. how many brackets do I need? is there a weigh limit?
Yes you are overweight on the clothing part of the problem is even though this video shows how to repair wire shelves I don't ever install wire shelves like this in closets I can't stand them myself. I prefer the upgraded version from closetmaid called their shelf track which uses bigger beefier cantilever shelf racks instead of these wire pieces of stupid as I call them. Plus the system my setup is changeable you can move shelves up and down on this system and it's much better secured to the walls in the studs. See one of my videos here on installing the shelf track system ruclips.net/video/gCu4j4IT-X4/видео.html
Here's the 2 different screws you need depending on if you have metal studs or wood studs. For wood studs you need to penetrate deep, so we use 2 1/2" just like kitchen cabinets. Sheet metal studs are hollow so 1 1/4" is all you need: ✅ Metal Stud Screws: 8 x 1-1/4" Self Tapping Stainless Steel Metal Screws Pan Head amzn.to/2NJ43AP ✅ Wood Stud Screws: GRK 120660 White Cabinet Screw #8 X 2-1/2": amzn.to/2C5OUTa
Hi, at 17:25, I can see the end of the bracket is not supporting the shelf properly. Closetmaid manual says the notch has to hug around one of the column rods. Is it safe to install the brackets like you did? I think the shelf load will not transfer properly to the 45 degree bracket unless the column rod catches the bracket?
Yeah we adjusted it later we always do a thorough double check afterwards to make sure everything is seated. Sometimes for the rush of making a video not every single item is putting place this put in place we do it more or less for showing how to do it
Hello Jeff. I just installed a couple shelves in the bedroom. They had a place for a screw on each side. On one side I used an ez anchor type anchor. For the other side, I hit a steel stud behind the drywall. I went with a self drilling metal screw. With a little force I was able to get the screw in. It seemed to have worked but my only concern is that the metal screw doesn’t completely bite into the steel stud. It’s secure, it just keeps spinning if I use my drill or screwdriver. Any recommendations?
Sometimes the metal studs are tricky. Make sure the type of screw you use has thread where you think it will hit the metal stud, which is about 1/2" deep through the drywall from the head of the screw. Another thing I often do is use a 1/16" pilot drill to cut through the stud, then use by my metal screw from there.
I hired someone to do my closet, he used 2 closet rods. I put stuff on the bottom rod, everything was fine. The minute I used the top rod for jackets and blazers, it all came down on my head, ripped the wall and took down the bottom rod in the process. I noticed he used those plastic anchors and they have bent out of place! I have been without a closet for over a week, my clothes full of drywall dust and I cannot find anything, so going to work has been challenging. I gave up on the rest of my clothes and have them piled on a mountain by my bed. Unbelievable. Wish I could hire you, or anyone competent enough to build me a closet that will actually hold my stuff. I just hope he comes back to fix the shoddy work he did, or I'm out of $$$.
Don't call him back to fix it. If he was that stupid to begin with he does not know how to do it right. I would switch to the closet maid shelftrack system, because there, we try to get at least 2 screws into studs.
So for the big anchor that holds 100lb, those you don’t put into the studs it just goes into the drywall ? And the screws that do go into the studs are the self tapping screws ?
Tony, correct, if you have metal studs, you need to use self tapping screws to pierce those metal studs. If you don't have a stud location where you are fastening those braces against the wall, then you use the big metal anchors I showed which push through the drywall, and the swingout arm on it holds to the back side of the drywall. I would do my very best to only use studs, or at least try to use as many studs as possible, and as few anchors as you can to get the job done. Look at some of our closet shelving videos in this playlist, you'll see we prefer the Shelf track system, a lot more reliable because the track is secured only to studs. Then the vertical standards hang off the well-secured track, and can also be attached to studs.
Thanks for the video! As you mentioned some of the support brackets have to be in certain spot even if there are no studs. My rack fell, and one of the support brackets ripped off the wall. Is it okay to fix a couple of inches from where it originally was?
Awesome DIY....one question I have . ...I am thinking of making this for my books? Rope bookshelf sort off ....Will it handle a good amount of weight? 3:55
The large anchors hold 100 lbs, the smaller anchors hold 50 lbs. Don't use the smaller anchors unless you are drilling into a wood stud, because the smaller anchors don't have the swingout arms to grip the back side of the drywall.
Hi I live in a mobile home which I don’t think they have no studs in the walls at the end is my closet door so any suggestions thanks And no dry wall in trailer
What do you call that thing that holds the wire or will anchor the wire? It is on your video 27:08 . Mine was broken and need to replace it. What is the name so i can buy.
Sharon, Yup, that's why we put up this video. I think every closet installer out there must be a moron, and eventually, every single person's closet shelve is going to come crashing down. It's amazing how often we see this. Every single person I know has had this happen to them, including me on 3 different occasions. That's why I would never hire a closet installer, I do all my own installs, into the studs every single time.
Hi! Can I put 2 regular walmart wire shoe shelves sitting on top of the wire shelves that are drilled into the stud already? There are tons of clothes hanging it already. It's full. Is that too much Weight for a wire rack in studs? There's enough room for the two 3 shelved little shoe rack things. It would help with vertical space saving. How much weight can they take?? Help please!
If you are sure that all of this cruiser in a stud then you are fine. Especially if it's wood that's even better than metal studs. I would still try to find a way to also secure the new shelves to studs as well
@@jeffostroff HI! They're like little seperate 3 tier shoe rack things that usually sit on the ground. And yes, they're in wood studs. The shelves will just have the full weight of shoes and racks plus the clothes. Lol. Is that too much? Oh, I def should try to attach them to the wall just in case they want to fall off for some reason. That would hurt. Thanks!!
@@melmelbry5754 I would try to make sure some of the screws go through studs and you can use some of the fancier metal drywall anchors that I've shown for backup along the 3 shelves
@@jeffostroff Thanks! I'm a self taught woman who does not have a "fix it man". It sucks having to do stuffmyself, especially when I need more hands. Oh well.
I regularly have an issue with the bracket "claw" attaching to the front of the wire shelf. I'm pretty sure the install is correct, it really can only go one way. It seems like it would make more sense to have the claw flipped the other way so the shelf sat in it. I read some people use zip ties to keep the shelf from dropping away from the bracket claws. Do you run into this issue and is there a fix?
Yes I have had this issue a few times and it's very difficult to overcome its just a very stupid design. But what I do as I place that angled Support bracket up against the wall and then I slide it all the way up so that it comes right up directly under the wire shelf to the point where it doesn't look like it's going to move and that's where I make sure I mark it iand screwed into the wall. Keep in mind this is not my choice for installing new closets I don't ever install new wire shelving I will only repair old wire shelving or spray paint over it. But whenever I'm doing new closet shelving I only use their shelf track system which is far superior because it uses a cantilever and the wire shelf rests on top of those cantilevers which are fitted into the slots on the vertical standards that are bolted through the dry wall into the studs. Have you seen any of my other videos where I install these?
@@jeffostroff thanks for the reply. I haven't seen your other videos, but I've used the shelftrack. Like you said it is a way better system. I just did a job today that involved several things including installing a shelftrack system in a pantry. The client also wanted a single wire shelf above her washer/dryer so I got a 6' piece with the standard angle brackets. I've used them a couple times before with the same issue, so I think it's time to right them off. I don't know why they don't just offer a solid angle bracket for them like a solid shelf would have. In the meantime I need to go back and adjust the one I put in... Going to try clamping the claws a little so they bite more, and then probably put a few white zip ties on them. Not pretty, but should hold. Crazy they continue to sell such an awful design.
you're supposed to put the diagonal support so that one of the wires on the shelf runs the middle of the support; Jeff installed it improperly in the video. Like in this video ruclips.net/video/jRaQ3YjV47g/видео.html
@@Jujoji It was installed according to ClosetMaid's own instructions, LOL! Look at item "K" Support bracket on their instruction sheet, you'll see even they show it in the space between sires. . Besides, putting it in between the wire won't solve @rmryder88's problem. The problem is there is too much flex in the shelves, and the support, and they should have designed the support to that the wire shelf sits in the useless half loop there which does not wrap enough around the the shelf wire. Look at their useless instruction sheet here. images.homedepot-static.com/catalog/pdfImages/83/83749163-d9f0-438f-80b3-54b5e56c5d2d.pdf
Also, at 23:30, the bracket notch doesn’t hug one of the wire rods. Not trying to find fault but I am wondering if it is safe because the brackets I purchased from Amazon doesn’t have a long enough notch where I can fit a wire rod properly. I might have to drill a longer notch.
I fixed the link to the new one, thanks. I don't know why they do this at amazon, every once in a while, they will change the link, or a product becomes unavailable, then reinstated again under a new link.
I noticed you put the top of the bracket BETWEEN the front-to-back wires instead of straddling a wire with the notch. Does it make a difference? When I did it as you did, the shelf wouldn't stay and immediately slipped off the bracket. The Closet Maid package shows an example, but the drawing is too small see it, and the instructions don't mention it.
Yes it is better to let a wire fit between notch On the bracket. What I do slide D bracket all the way up the wall to the point that I know that once it's contacting the wire shelf to shelf can not sag or move or otherwise pop out of that connection. Normally I don't even use this type or shelf I used their shelf track
I owner a house which I rent out in Central Florida. Living in an apartment in Minnesota. 4 months ago, 1 of the 94 inch close shelves came crashing down. The maintenance guy and building manager's are idiots. They took 4 attempts to fix it. First fix came crashing down with half the clothes. The 2nd attempt had back wall clips pulling out of wall before clothes were added. 3rd and 4th attempt, they cut the shelf in half. You cannot do that with shelf that has 2 wall mounts to hold 94 inches of clothes. They are confusing old style wall to wall and ShelfTrack system. "You want something done right, Do it Yourself". Left mount was fixed with 2 toggle lock anchors (no stud). Marked studs and then screwed the back wall clips into the stud. Attached wall studs to those same studs. For the other 94 inch closet, I will mark studs and do the same to it (less work). 4 supports is better than 2, and best to not have this happen, again. Thanks for the video.
I am reinstalling a wooden shelf that buckled in my bathroom. Two shelves meet at the corner, and so I think I should remove both, & reinstall both shelves a little lower since they are too high. The problem is that they are "floating" shelves, and so I cannot choose where to place the anchor unless I drill a hole in the back of each shelf to line them up with the studs. Is there a better solution?
Sort of like Ikea floating shelves, maybe see if you can buy the those floating shelf "rod brackets " separately from Ikea, and use those, I doubt they are sold desperately. The brackets are basically a black strip with 2 or 3 roads sticking out of them. you drill holes in the back of your shelf to slide the shelf onto the bracket, lined up with the 3 rods. So bracket gets screwed onto studs, then shelves slide onto bracket. then get small straight bracket and screw under the corner where the 2 shelves meet, to keep them level with one another. Personally I would just buy the nice floating shelves from Ikea and be done with it, they come with the brackets.
How much would it typically cost to repair a closet like this? Say...if two of the anchors got bent and one of the hooks on the wall broke off? Pls tell me it isnt too expensive?
I simply don't know how much they were charged because I never called these people to do anything but I would imagine a couple of hours of Labor and maybe $20 in parts at the most
How do I know if the stud is metal or wood? And how to I screw into a metal stud? I am needing toadd supports to my closets, until I have money to spend on closet remodel.
Everybody does it they all just hang more and more stuff until it falls but it should never fall that's the Main cause of these issues they should be permanently attached to studs
Sergio, the EZ Ancor is only used in the drywall, not in a stud. In the case of the stud, you use a screw to go through the drywall and at least one inch into the stud. You would not be able to use an EZ Ancor on the stud, because the EZ Ancor requires the air space inside the wall for the back side wall bracket arm to swing out.
Hi James we have the links to all the part sin the video description and the EZ Ancor link is here: ✅ E-Z Ancor Self Drilling Toggle Anchors: amzn.to/2GPmAsd
If they still fell out of the wall, then it means you did not hit the stud with your screws. Another root cause can be people who pre-drill a hole for the screw in the stud, but the hole is too big so the screw just pulls out.
Why did you replace the brackets? I understand that the shelving fell, but why not use the same support brackets just installed into the studs? The reason why I ask is I am using donated pre-used materials. I am volunteer at a tiny house village for the homeless so things are mainly provided through donation only. I need to install these across the inside perimeter of one individual's home. The last thing I need is have the whole thing come crashing down on them.
Studs are 8 foot long 2" x 4" wood boards that form a skeleton which the drywall is screwed into . The studs are usually 16" apart per building codes. Here in florid we typically use thin metal studs for drywall, and only use wood for load bearing walls.
The last owner were DIYers and use friggen drywall nails on the wire racks! Augh!!! One has fallen and I fixed it into the studs. The other side is way longer and has more stuff on it. I'm afraid it'll fall but I can't do it by my small self :(.
So you like our tips on fixing the closet shelves? Let us know how it goes with your repair, if it worked out OK for you. We always like to hear from DIY folks who utilize our guides with success.
Get one. 1 Every homeowner should have at least one of this stud finders I recommend below. As a last resort if you have a strong magnet you can drag the magnet back-and-forth on the wall until you find the buried drywall screws. Once you find those dry wall screws you have found the stud.
Yup, y'all guess it. I'm here because my shelf fell 🤣🤣. Yes, it was ripped from the wall because it was poorly anchor /installed🤦🏽♀️. Yes, I'm going to bed and dealing with it tomorrow.
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How much weight can the shelves hold when they're screwed into studs? I have A LOT of clothes and want to out even more weight with shoe racks just sitting on top.
Jeff saves the day...again. I live in an apartment, and I usually get a FAST response time when I put in a maintenance request. The only problem? The maintenance guys suck. They also don't even know what a studfinder is, and the shelf inevitably collapses again and again. Invested in good impact drill, a good set of bits, and hardware you recommended. Super easy fix, done correctly. This shelf is not going anywhere. Thank you RUclips Dad!
Way to go Omar!
Thank you for this 😭 I was thinking “dang… actually having a dad to give me advice on what to do sure would be nice right now” and BOOM - up came your video and I was happy to watch from start to finish 💜 Learned a lot! A wholehearted thanks 🙏🏽
Thanks, I'm glad you liked it!
I cannot thank you enough for this video. Sometimes I am amazed at how everything I need is on RUclips.
My friend jokes that she calls RUclips “dad” because all of the things you wish a dad would have taught you are here.
Thank you.
My shelf came crashing down over the past few days and it has been an ordeal trying to deal with it both mentally and physically. I wouldn’t have been able to fix it without this video.
I am also going to go and proactively secure the other ones as well.
Awesome, glad to help you out on your closet disaster. This ha shit almost every person I know including me in college!
I needed this information so badly. I’m one of those with a lot of clothes hanging in the closet & the shelves have fallen, been fixed (by a professional) and are now sagging. This ends today now that I know the correct tools & process. Thank You!
Glad it was helpful!
Thanks for making this video! This literally happened in our closet this weekend. We bought a brand new house, and the wife was hanging clothes in the closet and when she put something on the shelf and the whole thing came crashing down exactly how you described it. So I started researching how to repair it and this was the first video that popped up. It appears that they drilled in between the studs.
Yes indeed, that's how they all do it. The closet shelf installation people that builders use are the least talented of all the trades. Hope works out for you now that you know how to repair it.
@@jeffostroff Just so I am clear, you said the E-Z Ancor Self Drilling Toggle Anchors can support up to 100 pounds each? And that is without drilling them into a stud? I ask because the wall that shelf was on looks like, and I have to double check it, that the studs are at the corners, nothing in the middle. It is an odd location to begin with.
@@bw33511 Yes, the EZ Ancors are specked and designed for drilling into open space between studs, that is what the 100 lb rating is for, you don't need EZ Ancors when going into a stud, you just need a screw to go into the stud.
@@jeffostroff Thanks! This info is very helpful.
Thank you so much for this! The shelf fell in my closet and it scared me. I am decent with tools and I appreciate the links to what you are using.
You are so welcome! Glad to help out Audra!
Fun when the shelf pulls off your wall at 1am...so I get to do this after a run to the hardware store in the morning, because I definitely don't trust apartment maintenance to do it right (their track record is abysmal)
Thanks for the easy instructions, truly. And links to materials.
You can do it!
It happened at 2AM for me! Ugh
You're absolutely correct I've worked for a big Builder for decades and the shelving contractors we hire just throw shelves up as quick as possible never hitting a stud never using the proper anchors if there is no stud and I'm sure later on down the road the shelving comes down and the homeowner has to pay a carpenter to reinstall them properly
My closet fell out of my closet a few months ago and maintainence is nice and they try but the closet is a mess. I'm definitely doing this! Thanks, Jeff!!
Thanks for sharing!! Let us know if you were successful finding the studs
Previous home owner installed his closet shelves into the drywall with weak drywall anchors and some with no anchors. One day all my closet hardware dropped and I redid my whole closet from paint, patching and new shelf closet installation. Install your screws into some of the studs! It will help tremendously
It's amazing how many people just think the drywall will hold everything
You know what….. I love how easy to follow and informative this video was. I honestly feel confident to do this myself
You can do it!
I have to say this is the best video! Forget the other guys. He really helped with my closet problems!!!!
Awesome Lisa, glad to help and thanks for watching.
I wish I had seen this before everything came crashing down and messing up my walls...new built btw!
Well if it happens again, you're ready. Or ditch the ceiling tiles
Same thing happened to me .. brand new built !
All the work in my rental apartment was done haphazardly. Last week the whole oven hood fell on me and yesterday the closet system crashed. Luckily I haven’t been killed yet! This video is certainly helpful.
Me too!
@@janeolinger8038 I'm also renting an appt and new in the US. who should fix it if the shelves fall apart? Should I call the maintainance and have it fixed or should i do it myself?
Vertical pieces of plywood perpendicular to the shelf running from the shelf to the ceiling (and attached to the wall) will strengthen the shelves tremendously. It will also transfer more of the load to the walls, off of the joists/trusses. 2:21
At 24:10, when you're talking about the bracket being loose and wanting to pop up - it's because you're supposed to put that split (forked tongue) on the bracket underneath one of the thin wires that is perpendicular to the wall to keep it locked in place. It offers a little bit of support for weight, but mainly it's there to keep the bracket in place as people are moving hangers from one side to another. Yes, it still needs to be perfectly against the big wire to support the weight.
Yes that's what stinks about that design, it must be perfect or it will not hold. What worries me is what happens over time as people start to put more and more clothing on their shelves an that adds additional weight and it causes the shelf to flex now it will lose its mechanical advantage
Yep - happened in my fiancé’s closet 3 weeks ago - and mine yesterday - mine was definitely overloaded (heehee). I’m thinking of getting a system with some tall cabinets - or doing custom ones myself. I’m gonna think about it while my clothes take a much needed rest on the floor - LOL.
Excellent job
Such a bizarre design for the brackets, I just bought a pair and the notch is too shallow, so they don't even fit their own product in the intended way.
Great video. Definitely here because my shelf has fallen for the 3rd time. Different houses but still.. camera wasn’t focused on the right areas throughout the video lol but I got the point
You got this!
"Has this happened to you..."
Why, yes, sir. Just last night and I didn't pick anything up until this morning because I didn't even want to deal with it 🤣
Well said! Just about everyone I know has had this happen to them.
The thing is, I knew enough not to do it, but I'm in the middle of moving and didn't want to wait to reinforce them. Lesson learned 🤣
Omg my closet fell down the same one you fix what is that blue thig you put on the wall first I got big hole in the middle of wall
Omg my closet fell down the same one you fix what is that blue thig you put on the wall first I got big hole in the middle of wall
Omg my closet fell down the same one you fix what is that blue thig you put on the wall first I got big hole in the middle of wall
Jeff, Thanks for this video. I've been wishing my dad had taught me to do this stuff. So, greatful you're here.
I couldn't agree more. The builder did a horrendous job of installing the closet systems in this house.
I have lots of really heavy coats, linens, etc. Between Rubbermaid and Closetmaid, which system do you prefer or consider to be the strongest? Thanks for answering in advance.
Leona, I have only used the Shelf track so far, but I assume the fast track is the same as long as it is screwed into studs, I love the closet maid shelf track for it's stability and expandability and you can rearrange the shelves
Thank you so much. Trying for the third time now to finally get this right.
Thank heavens you made this video. 😂 My closet screws are half out and I gotta fix it before I move out of my parents.
Scarlett, awesome I'm glad we could help you!
Awesome tutorial thank you very much it was very informative…….Now I can tackle my disaster in my closet.
Debra thanks for watching our video and I'm glad you liked it.
Jeff. You should know that the notch in the bracket should straddle the wire on the shelf. Much more secure fit.
Thank you for this video. I like the shelf track also. Will investigate now that mu shelves have fallen down for the third time. Thank you .
Yes they should never fall even the 1st time so it means that you're not hitting the stud When they get screwed backup onto the wall
The shelf brackets don't pop up if you install them correctly with the small wire into the groove that is designed to have the wire go through it and it makes it impossible to push up.
Thank you. This helped me tremendously, and I was able to get all the work done.
Great video Jeff. Thanks for explaining issues with these shelves and how to fix them. I am having the same problem in my new home and 2 of my shelves already fell down.
What? In a brand new home, they are already falling off the wall?
Hi Jeff, I just wanted to say thank you for your very detailed video and I’m going to attempt to try and do this myself as a single lady but I am pretty efficient… Just wanted to say thank you for putting all the parts on your video with the Amazon links I found that to be super helpful as I was about to walk into Lowe’s scratching my head… So I’m going to repair the holes in my wall and then I’m gonna start your project here and hopefully I can fix it myself or else I might have to call you here in Florida. Thank you So much for your help and insight. Your video made me laugh because you sound exactly like my dad and my dad is very efficient and helping but now he’s a senior and I have to try and do this myself
And yes I did subscribe to your channel and liked your video I look forward to looking at all of them in the near future
Awesome, Karen! Let us know if your repair went well!
@@jeffostroff So my shelf pulled out leaving holes in my sheet rock. I repaired the holes yesterday, and I am ordering the supplies. All my wall clips broke and I was wondering if you have a video on how to install the wall clips so it lines up with the rack.. Any tips? I don't want to put the wall clips where I did the repair.
This happened to me too! Great video. Do you also recommend using the Ez anchors for securing the plastic clips to attach the shelf to the wall ? I can’t tell from the video because they are already secured. Thanks in advance.
The plastic clips armor to control the vertical direction of the shelf and just to help keep it in place as a secondary anchor. I still however do not use any plastic anchors whatsoever you might be OK with that as your secondary but I for my own personal experience will always install the easy anchors wherever there needs to be a screw attachment
Thank you!! We moved into a house and the closet shelf came crashing down as soon as I started hanging clothes 😒. Can't wait to install it correctly and get out closet together!
Thanks, I'm glad you liked the video!
Thank you so much for this video. My shelf fell down just last month. I definitely agree about the poor design. Mine had actually stayed up without problem for over twenty years but, when I removed all the stuff I stored in crates on the shelf, the weight of the hanging clothes made the back of the shelf pop out of the clips, and down it all came. To be fair, there were more clothes than usual hanging from the shelf; I usually put out of season up in the attic but had neglected to do so last Winter.
If the builder had installed it correctly the 1st time screwing it directly into the studs it would not have fallen off no matter how much weight you put on it.
Great video!!!!! This happened to us this weekend this is the best video explaining how to repair it yourself. When connecting the first support bracket in the video (18:17 mark), was a steal anchor used? I believe there was a metal stud but not sure if an anchor was used due to the editing of the video.
Thank you so much...I just had to redo my closet. NONE were in the studs. I put them all in the studs but my shelf is popping...I didn't know to have clips opposing. I will redo my shelf.
We recently moved in to my husband's grandmas home after she passed away and she was very old and sick so she put hardly any wear on her home to see.how poorly it was built and we've been replacing cabinets because they just fall off from.not having the proper screws.... Anyways the entire walk in closet collapsed and I will be following your advice to fix this... Thanks so much 😩😥😥
Awesome, glad to help out!
Thank you for this video. Very informative. You gave me the confidence to do it myself.
I know this is an older video but I think those closet guys could learn a trick or two from you!
Down here in FL, it's virtually 100% done incorrectly, way too high a number for professionals who only have one job to do.
Wow! Thanks so much for the easy-to-follow directions. I can do this! 1:41
Thank you for the tutorial, Jeff. We used your video to fix two of our closets. Quick question - do you have guidance on longevity of such a repair? Thanks
If you are able to get At least one screw into the stud for each wire shelf it should lost permanently. If you used just the anchors that we showed you it will last as long as the dry wall llasts.
Im an engineer as well, but you have factor time and money into the job. These wire rack kits were NOT designed to go into studs. They are supplied with nothing but dry wall anchors. Also, when doing stud finding in a closet, you may end up hitting an electrical line, fresh water line, or sewage some stud finders do detect electric. A potential buyer may not want the wire racks at all. Now you have screws ran through studs instead of sheet rock, good luck repairing your studs. The most common failure point is the plastic anchors. After 15 years or so, they will start to crack/crumble apart. During a build, the wire racks are the last thing to go in and will take a general contractor under an hour to install.
The wire shelf kit manufacturers are stupid and cheap only concerned with giving barebones solutions, They are not supplied with the correct parts to go into studs, but any shelf that anyone installs should go into a stud or have a good solid drywall anchor that opens up like wings and grabs the back of the drywall once inserted, or screwas should go into studs. Also, wiring per code is in the middle of the wall, 1 1/5" in. You should never use a screw longer than 1 1/4" to avoid hitting wires. You know when you find a stud, and I also use magnets to find drywall screws into studs to confirm. A hole in stud is not a problem from a screw at all, and a buyer not wanting the wire shelves can easily stick some Dap on the hole to fill it in.
Good idea taping the bag under the drilling area. Wish I'd seen this 2 hours ago...
Next time!
Amazing anchor tutorial, fail on bracket install. Prongs at the top need to split the gap in the middle with a wire from the shelf itself.
I have one of these in a bedroom closet which also shares room with a hot water heater on one end which means that there is only an end cap on one of the ends since the wire closet rod / shelf unit stops before it gets to the hot water heater and does not meet this side of the closet wall. Do you have suggestions in a case such as this? This has collapsed again since being reinstalled by maintenance at my apartment complex. I have forwarded your video to them with the listing of the supplies that you used but am also wondering if a different type of closet rod system would be a better application than this wire closet shelf unit.
Nevermind I found it thank you for your video
No worries!
That came out amazing. Had to fast forward through a bit of it since I'm at work but will come back to watch it all the way through. 😉😉😁😁 you think this would be nice for outside up against a wall with plants? 4:34
I am actually not a fan of wire shelving, so I would choose something else for outdoors. I'm also not sure if these are rates for outdoors, as the cut end of the metal wire shelves are exposed, even though you can put plastic caps on them, just not sure how they would do.
If started w/ the basic shelf as one repairing can those shelves be used w/ the ShelfTrack system? They appear to be the same shelves.......makes sense to upgrade to that system using the original shelving. Is that possible?
Yes you should be able to use these with the shelf track system
@@jeffostroff excellent: thank you!!!!!!!!!!
PS: great video, thx for posting, helps all of us with crashing ClosetMaid shelves. :)
@@jeffostroff & PS again: the trick taping the paper bag to catch dust is priceless :)
I've done this, but I had a specific place regardless of studs or not lol. I've been holding strong two years now. My trick was after assembly. I placed gorrila glue around my screws for extra support. It may not be the correct way however it works. It doesn't move at all.
Gorilla glue is helping it act as an anchor. If you really glob it on and push globs into the hole, it might create a nice rim inside the hole in the wall, making it hard for the screw to get ripped out.
HI,Ii was wondering you could use the shelf track system if you have metal studs if I switch to one. I hit metal studs so I wasn't able to drill into it for the closetmaid freestanding wire shelf and I ripped out the drywall because of the crapper anchors they come with. The closet is on the backside of the washroom so I'm also concerned about hitting a pipe. Can you specify the screws and anchors used? I can't seem to find the drywall one thanks!
Mariam, for metal studs, you need a fine thread drywall screw that is specifically made for metal studs, here it is: amzn.to/2Cf6Aj4 Also sometimes drilling them into metal studs can be a challenge, it will sit there and spin and spin and sometimes never seem like it will go in. So sometimes I get a 1/16" drill bit and drill a pilot hole into the metal stud first, then the tip of this drywall screw will pierce right through the pilot hole.
@@jeffostroff thank you! I'll try it out
Jeff, HELP? I mistakenly removed the center support from a wire shelf that was in the stud. How do I repair it now? Do I have to move away from using the stud or is there a way to rig something that works? The builder used a drywall anchor rather than a wood screw. Will the center support still work if it's a little off-center? Is that wise?
Just buy a 2" long screw and screw it into the stud, right through where the builder's anchor was. Get a screw long enough to reach back into the wood stud by 1".
@@jeffostroff thank you! That was the solution I came up with as I thought about tit further. You inspired me! thanks
my old stud finder is giving me headache. THAT stud finder you got is much better.
Yes nice and small
Have 8 foot wire system fell twice to much weight
Like your ideas
No wire hangers! LOL!
Hello, I have put my brackets the way you have showed me in this tutorial; however I use the shelf for coats, jackets etc.... and it almost like the coats & jackets are to heavy for the brackets. they keep bending and the shelf will fall because of the brackets. I screwed everything to the stud so that part is fine. how many brackets do I need? is there a weigh limit?
Yes you are overweight on the clothing part of the problem is even though this video shows how to repair wire shelves I don't ever install wire shelves like this in closets I can't stand them myself. I prefer the upgraded version from closetmaid called their shelf track which uses bigger beefier cantilever shelf racks instead of these wire pieces of stupid as I call them. Plus the system my setup is changeable you can move shelves up and down on this system and it's much better secured to the walls in the studs. See one of my videos here on installing the shelf track system ruclips.net/video/gCu4j4IT-X4/видео.html
Can you link the screws you use for metal studs? No anchors needed if you use the studs, right? Thank you! Very helpful video.
Here's the 2 different screws you need depending on if you have metal studs or wood studs. For wood studs you need to penetrate deep, so we use 2 1/2" just like kitchen cabinets. Sheet metal studs are hollow so 1 1/4" is all you need:
✅ Metal Stud Screws: 8 x 1-1/4" Self Tapping Stainless Steel Metal Screws Pan Head amzn.to/2NJ43AP
✅ Wood Stud Screws: GRK 120660 White Cabinet Screw #8 X 2-1/2": amzn.to/2C5OUTa
Hi, at 17:25, I can see the end of the bracket is not supporting the shelf properly. Closetmaid manual says the notch has to hug around one of the column rods. Is it safe to install the brackets like you did? I think the shelf load will not transfer properly to the 45 degree bracket unless the column rod catches the bracket?
Yeah we adjusted it later we always do a thorough double check afterwards to make sure everything is seated. Sometimes for the rush of making a video not every single item is putting place this put in place we do it more or less for showing how to do it
Hello Jeff. I just installed a couple shelves in the bedroom. They had a place for a screw on each side. On one side I used an ez anchor type anchor. For the other side, I hit a steel stud behind the drywall. I went with a self drilling metal screw. With a little force I was able to get the screw in. It seemed to have worked but my only concern is that the metal screw doesn’t completely bite into the steel stud. It’s secure, it just keeps spinning if I use my drill or screwdriver. Any recommendations?
Sometimes the metal studs are tricky. Make sure the type of screw you use has thread where you think it will hit the metal stud, which is about 1/2" deep through the drywall from the head of the screw. Another thing I often do is use a 1/16" pilot drill to cut through the stud, then use by my metal screw from there.
@@jeffostroff thank you.
I was soooo annoyed when my closet came crashing down. Thank you!!!
Thanks, I'm glad you liked it!
I hired someone to do my closet, he used 2 closet rods. I put stuff on the bottom rod, everything was fine. The minute I used the top rod for jackets and blazers, it all came down on my head, ripped the wall and took down the bottom rod in the process. I noticed he used those plastic anchors and they have bent out of place! I have been without a closet for over a week, my clothes full of drywall dust and I cannot find anything, so going to work has been challenging. I gave up on the rest of my clothes and have them piled on a mountain by my bed. Unbelievable. Wish I could hire you, or anyone competent enough to build me a closet that will actually hold my stuff. I just hope he comes back to fix the shoddy work he did, or I'm out of $$$.
Don't call him back to fix it. If he was that stupid to begin with he does not know how to do it right. I would switch to the closet maid shelftrack system, because there, we try to get at least 2 screws into studs.
So for the big anchor that holds 100lb, those you don’t put into the studs it just goes into the drywall ? And the screws that do go into the studs are the self tapping screws ?
Tony, correct, if you have metal studs, you need to use self tapping screws to pierce those metal studs. If you don't have a stud location where you are fastening those braces against the wall, then you use the big metal anchors I showed which push through the drywall, and the swingout arm on it holds to the back side of the drywall. I would do my very best to only use studs, or at least try to use as many studs as possible, and as few anchors as you can to get the job done. Look at some of our closet shelving videos in this playlist, you'll see we prefer the Shelf track system, a lot more reliable because the track is secured only to studs. Then the vertical standards hang off the well-secured track, and can also be attached to studs.
Thanks for the video! As you mentioned some of the support brackets have to be in certain spot even if there are no studs.
My rack fell, and one of the support brackets ripped off the wall. Is it okay to fix a couple of inches from where it originally was?
Glad it helped! Yes, you can move it to wherever you need it to be I look for fresh meat of drywall where I can imbed an anchor.
Awesome DIY....one question I have . ...I am thinking of making this for my books? Rope bookshelf sort off ....Will it handle a good amount of weight? 3:55
The large anchors hold 100 lbs, the smaller anchors hold 50 lbs. Don't use the smaller anchors unless you are drilling into a wood stud, because the smaller anchors don't have the swingout arms to grip the back side of the drywall.
Hi I live in a mobile home which I don’t think they have no studs in the walls at the end is my closet door so any suggestions thanks
And no dry wall in trailer
There is 2 by 2 skinny studs
What is the name of the recommended metal anchors you are using
homedepot.sjv.io/n1kLBo EZ Ancor toggle anchors
What do you call that thing that holds the wire or will anchor the wire? It is on your video 27:08 . Mine was broken and need to replace it. What is the name so i can buy.
homedepot.sjv.io/YgjkvO 1 in. White Wall Clip Set for Ventilated Wire Shelving
What do you use for actually holding up the wire shelf
Thank goodness you are an engineer...or at least someone with a few brain cells. My closet shelf has crashed down twice due to incompetent installers.
Sharon, Yup, that's why we put up this video. I think every closet installer out there must be a moron, and eventually, every single person's closet shelve is going to come crashing down. It's amazing how often we see this. Every single person I know has had this happen to them, including me on 3 different occasions. That's why I would never hire a closet installer, I do all my own installs, into the studs every single time.
Hi! Can I put 2 regular walmart wire shoe shelves sitting on top of the wire shelves that are drilled into the stud already?
There are tons of clothes hanging it already. It's full.
Is that too much Weight for a wire rack in studs?
There's enough room for the two 3 shelved little shoe rack things. It would help with vertical space saving.
How much weight can they take??
Help please!
If you are sure that all of this cruiser in a stud then you are fine. Especially if it's wood that's even better than metal studs. I would still try to find a way to also secure the new shelves to studs as well
@@jeffostroff HI! They're like little seperate 3 tier shoe rack things that usually sit on the ground.
And yes, they're in wood studs. The shelves will just have the full weight of shoes and racks plus the clothes. Lol. Is that too much?
Oh, I def should try to attach them to the wall just in case they want to fall off for some reason. That would hurt. Thanks!!
@@melmelbry5754 I would try to make sure some of the screws go through studs and you can use some of the fancier metal drywall anchors that I've shown for backup along the 3 shelves
@@jeffostroff Thanks! I'm a self taught woman who does not have a "fix it man". It sucks having to do stuffmyself, especially when I need more hands. Oh well.
Mines fell off my wall lol and now I’m here
Hope you can get it back up better than ever with our tips!
I regularly have an issue with the bracket "claw" attaching to the front of the wire shelf. I'm pretty sure the install is correct, it really can only go one way. It seems like it would make more sense to have the claw flipped the other way so the shelf sat in it. I read some people use zip ties to keep the shelf from dropping away from the bracket claws. Do you run into this issue and is there a fix?
Yes I have had this issue a few times and it's very difficult to overcome its just a very stupid design. But what I do as I place that angled Support bracket up against the wall and then I slide it all the way up so that it comes right up directly under the wire shelf to the point where it doesn't look like it's going to move and that's where I make sure I mark it iand screwed into the wall. Keep in mind this is not my choice for installing new closets I don't ever install new wire shelving I will only repair old wire shelving or spray paint over it. But whenever I'm doing new closet shelving I only use their shelf track system which is far superior because it uses a cantilever and the wire shelf rests on top of those cantilevers which are fitted into the slots on the vertical standards that are bolted through the dry wall into the studs. Have you seen any of my other videos where I install these?
@@jeffostroff thanks for the reply. I haven't seen your other videos, but I've used the shelftrack. Like you said it is a way better system. I just did a job today that involved several things including installing a shelftrack system in a pantry. The client also wanted a single wire shelf above her washer/dryer so I got a 6' piece with the standard angle brackets. I've used them a couple times before with the same issue, so I think it's time to right them off. I don't know why they don't just offer a solid angle bracket for them like a solid shelf would have. In the meantime I need to go back and adjust the one I put in... Going to try clamping the claws a little so they bite more, and then probably put a few white zip ties on them. Not pretty, but should hold. Crazy they continue to sell such an awful design.
you're supposed to put the diagonal support so that one of the wires on the shelf runs the middle of the support; Jeff installed it improperly in the video.
Like in this video
ruclips.net/video/jRaQ3YjV47g/видео.html
@@Jujoji It was installed according to ClosetMaid's own instructions, LOL! Look at item "K" Support bracket on their instruction sheet, you'll see even they show it in the space between sires. . Besides, putting it in between the wire won't solve @rmryder88's problem. The problem is there is too much flex in the shelves, and the support, and they should have designed the support to that the wire shelf sits in the useless half loop there which does not wrap enough around the the shelf wire. Look at their useless instruction sheet here. images.homedepot-static.com/catalog/pdfImages/83/83749163-d9f0-438f-80b3-54b5e56c5d2d.pdf
supremely helpful. ty for posting this!!
Angela, glad to help out, thanks for watching our video!
@@jeffostroff absolutely - you saved my sanity! (and my wallet 😊)
Where can you get the system that u recomend
✅ Tools and Products in this how to repair closet shelves video: Recommended Closet Maid Shelftrack starter kits:
✅ ClosetMaid 2091 ShelfTrack 7ft. to 10ft. Kit, White: amzn.to/2SwpPYv
✅ ClosetMaid 22875 ShelfTrack 5ft. to 8ft. Kit: amzn.to/2RwBUj6
✅ Precision Sensors Stud Finder Deep Scanning LED Profinder 5000: amzn.to/2qAuAr7
✅ DEWALT DCK299D1T1 Hammer Drill, Impact Driver Kit: amzn.to/2M6h450
✅ E-Z Ancor Self Drilling Toggle Anchors: amzn.to/2GPmAsd
✅ ClosetMaid 12-Inch Wire Shelving Support Brackets: amzn.to/2U1Gx2Y
✅ Empire True Blue 12-Inch Magnetic Level: amzn.to/2DTCP4j
✅ Metal Stud Screws: 8 x 1-1/4" Self Tapping Stainless Steel Metal Screws Pan Head amzn.to/2NJ43AP
✅ Wood Stud Screws: GRK 120660 White Cabinet Screw #8 X 2-1/2": amzn.to/2C5OUTa
What size Pilot hole?? Into the metal stud?
No more than 1/8"
Also, at 23:30, the bracket notch doesn’t hug one of the wire rods. Not trying to find fault but I am wondering if it is safe because the brackets I purchased from Amazon doesn’t have a long enough notch where I can fit a wire rod properly. I might have to drill a longer notch.
thank you for all your help
Thanks, I'm glad you liked it!
Thanks for the video, however the amazon link for the stud scanner is incorrect.
I fixed the link to the new one, thanks. I don't know why they do this at amazon, every once in a while, they will change the link, or a product becomes unavailable, then reinstated again under a new link.
I noticed you put the top of the bracket BETWEEN the front-to-back wires instead of straddling a wire with the notch. Does it make a difference? When I did it as you did, the shelf wouldn't stay and immediately slipped off the bracket. The Closet Maid package shows an example, but the drawing is too small see it, and the instructions don't mention it.
Yes it is better to let a wire fit between notch On the bracket. What I do slide D bracket all the way up the wall to the point that I know that once it's contacting the wire shelf to shelf can not sag or move or otherwise pop out of that connection. Normally I don't even use this type or shelf I used their shelf track
I also Install Into the stud as often as possible, every 24". The brackets wound up bending at the anchor point.
Thank you so much for this video!
So where do you buy the hardware and what it what are they called
Links in description
I owner a house which I rent out in Central Florida. Living in an apartment in Minnesota. 4 months ago, 1 of the 94 inch close shelves came crashing down. The maintenance guy and building manager's are idiots. They took 4 attempts to fix it. First fix came crashing down with half the clothes. The 2nd attempt had back wall clips pulling out of wall before clothes were added. 3rd and 4th attempt, they cut the shelf in half. You cannot do that with shelf that has 2 wall mounts to hold 94 inches of clothes. They are confusing old style wall to wall and ShelfTrack system. "You want something done right, Do it Yourself". Left mount was fixed with 2 toggle lock anchors (no stud). Marked studs and then screwed the back wall clips into the stud. Attached wall studs to those same studs. For the other 94 inch closet, I will mark studs and do the same to it (less work).
4 supports is better than 2, and best to not have this happen, again.
Thanks for the video.
Yes, 99% of people working on closets are not qualified. Of all rooms in the house, I see most failures in closets.
Video was very well done
thanks Marvelle, glad you liked it
I am reinstalling a wooden shelf that buckled in my bathroom. Two shelves meet at the corner, and so I think I should remove both, & reinstall both shelves a little lower since they are too high. The problem is that they are "floating" shelves, and so I cannot choose where to place the anchor unless I drill a hole in the back of each shelf to line them up with the studs. Is there a better solution?
Sort of like Ikea floating shelves, maybe see if you can buy the those floating shelf "rod brackets " separately from Ikea, and use those, I doubt they are sold desperately. The brackets are basically a black strip with 2 or 3 roads sticking out of them. you drill holes in the back of your shelf to slide the shelf onto the bracket, lined up with the 3 rods. So bracket gets screwed onto studs, then shelves slide onto bracket. then get small straight bracket and screw under the corner where the 2 shelves meet, to keep them level with one another. Personally I would just buy the nice floating shelves from Ikea and be done with it, they come with the brackets.
How much would it typically cost to repair a closet like this? Say...if two of the anchors got bent and one of the hooks on the wall broke off? Pls tell me it isnt too expensive?
I simply don't know how much they were charged because I never called these people to do anything but I would imagine a couple of hours of Labor and maybe $20 in parts at the most
It happened to me and that's why I'm here ...lol
Yes, this has happened to us in the past too, probably everyone
How do I know if the stud is metal or wood? And how to I screw into a metal stud? I am needing toadd supports to my closets, until I have money to spend on closet remodel.
heyyyyyyyyyy I NEED HELP. my closet collasped today and tore the wall. would you please do a tutorial on that.
That is what this video is all about
LOL, people start hanging heavy stuff on shelf, JEFF do you know my wife??? LOL.
Everybody does it they all just hang more and more stuff until it falls but it should never fall that's the Main cause of these issues they should be permanently attached to studs
Does the easy anchor have to be in the stud as well or just through the drywall?
Sergio, the EZ Ancor is only used in the drywall, not in a stud. In the case of the stud, you use a screw to go through the drywall and at least one inch into the stud. You would not be able to use an EZ Ancor on the stud, because the EZ Ancor requires the air space inside the wall for the back side wall bracket arm to swing out.
jeffostroff thank you so much. I’ll keep you posted upon my progress.
What kind of anchors are you using
Hi James we have the links to all the part sin the video description and the EZ Ancor link is here: ✅ E-Z Ancor Self Drilling Toggle Anchors: amzn.to/2GPmAsd
I attached mine to the studs and those crappy brackets the shelves come with still fell out of the wall!! Ugh!
If they still fell out of the wall, then it means you did not hit the stud with your screws. Another root cause can be people who pre-drill a hole for the screw in the stud, but the hole is too big so the screw just pulls out.
Do you do this for a living ?
My shelf fell off the wall boom per my son . I was out of town . Holes in wall definitely no studs plastic anchors. Lots of holes to patch .
Why did you replace the brackets? I understand that the shelving fell, but why not use the same support brackets just installed into the studs? The reason why I ask is I am using donated pre-used materials. I am volunteer at a tiny house village for the homeless so things are mainly provided through donation only. I need to install these across the inside perimeter of one individual's home. The last thing I need is have the whole thing come crashing down on them.
Can’t stand this Apt that offer this weak ass shelf . Then u gotta fix it smh .
Thanks for the vid my guy 😎
FL all day .
Thanks, I'm glad you liked it!
My wooden self fell down in my closet, because they didn't place the screws into the studs. What to do ?
This is a very basic question, but what, exactly, is a stud?
Studs are 8 foot long 2" x 4" wood boards that form a skeleton which the drywall is screwed into . The studs are usually 16" apart per building codes. Here in florid we typically use thin metal studs for drywall, and only use wood for load bearing walls.
Painfully long but resourceful
Yes there were several examples to show
@@jeffostroff just got back from home depot with contractor strength pull toggles and a new stud finder 😄 thanks brother.
@@TacoVic how did the repair go?
@@jeffostroff it went good dude! Just gotta cover up the small holes from the previous shelf hardware. Thanks so much man.
The last owner were DIYers and use friggen drywall nails on the wire racks! Augh!!! One has fallen and I fixed it into the studs.
The other side is way longer and has more stuff on it. I'm afraid it'll fall but I can't do it by my small self :(.
At least you know what to do to fix it!
Yessss thank you
So you like our tips on fixing the closet shelves? Let us know how it goes with your repair, if it worked out OK for you. We always like to hear from DIY folks who utilize our guides with success.
How much would this cost if you had someone to fix the wire rack back on to the wall?
Probably about $200 to $300
What if you don’t have a stud finder?
Get one. 1 Every homeowner should have at least one of this stud finders I recommend below. As a last resort if you have a strong magnet you can drag the magnet back-and-forth on the wall until you find the buried drywall screws. Once you find those dry wall screws you have found the stud.
Yup, y'all guess it. I'm here because my shelf fell 🤣🤣. Yes, it was ripped from the wall because it was poorly anchor /installed🤦🏽♀️. Yes, I'm going to bed and dealing with it tomorrow.
Awesome now you know the right way to deal with it