My backpacking course: www.danbeckeroutdoors.com/ It’s my entire channel condensed into a few videos and a 58 page booklet. Hope you’ll check it out!!!
oh, that is a key point! we currently have 22" wide accordion sleeping mats (Canadian Tire house-brand, wider than Z-lites but roughly the same thickness/comfortwise), but have been wanting to get some 25" wide inflatables as we upgrade our gear.
would love to take you backpacking here in scotland. we have a freedom of roaming law here and it basically means nowhere is off limits. alot of land owners have a honesty box with supplies to help also.
I've had a few semi-freestanding tents with the fly cutouts at the headend and haven't had any problems with condensation or leakage. I could maybe see there being condensation issues under very specific conditions.
Good to know! I've not heard of many people reviewing how they do in heavy rain. I was always curious if water pooled/dripped on the side where the fly is cut super high. I worried it might drip straight down onto the tent underneath. No issues there?
Hey Dan , I have the Nemo meta 2p and it’s AWSOME. It’s an older tent but very roomy but kinda heavy for today’s standard at 3.5 0 pounds. It would be great if Nemo could re- release this pole tent with their new light weight material. Thanks for your time and we love your videos.
I opted for the Dragonfly OSMO 2P over the hornet for the fully freestanding tent and extra stake out point on the vestibule for more space. I could not be happier with the tent. Nemo makes great stuff.
I bought the nemo osmo dagger this spring and took it in the Minnesota boundary waters for a week in June. We had 7 inches of rain one day and I was very happy the tent kept me dry. I'm a full believer in the osmo fabric after that. It didn't sag much at all and dried out quickly after.
Nope. I prefer my Big Agnes Copper Spur UV UL2. The reason I switched to a two person tent is because of the narrow ceiling on a solo tent, which I hated. However I do like the new, less stretchy fabric on the new Nemo, but that's it
Hi Dan, the Nemo looks like a cool tent but i dont know how any free standing tent that doesn't pitch in one as in outer and inner together canbbe the "King of free standing tents". I get the US campers tend to prefer the inner pitch first but they just dont work so well in lets say countries like the UK where you expect rain even in the summer months. Great colab, love that you got a tech nerd lol to do the testing. Cheers from the UK, Gary
I have an original Hornet Elite 2P without any brow-pole at all. Never had a problem with headroom having a 2p for 1p camping. Taken on hundreds of miles and never had a problem with water on the headwall. One of my best purchases ever. I still carry it a lot over my super-expensive durston because I don't like using Trekking poles all that much on flat trails (I live in Florida, so that's a lot of my hikes), and I take it bike-packing. Great tent that has stood the test of time!
I looked at Nemo tents, but wasn't convinced by them for UK weather, In the need I compromised and bought a Wechsel Exogen 2 tent for my Bike touring trips (its 1.9kg, but weight wasn't my primary concern for touring). they do a lighter 1 person version. Very happy with the choice. Also truly freestanding.
I love laying my junk out in my tent. I have the Veda 2p and while it's a trekking pole tent it's still got a lot of cool features. Our freestanding goto is the North Face Stormbreak 3. Not really a backpacking tent but it's worth the added durability. Been in heavy thunderstorms and stayed completely dry.
Big agnus tiger wall ul2 platinum is my go after my X-mid pro 2. I bet soon as durston releases the X-Dome that will over take all the free and semi-free standing tents
I have the Rainbow Li and the Double Rainbow DW Ultra. Both are inedible tents. The Rainbow Li I have held up to 40mph winds in alpine settings. They are quite spacious for their category, and very lightweight. I couldn't be happier with them.
Its also interesting to note; the reason why Tarptents li series is so expensive is because its made of DCF, a proprietary material they have to buy at high prices, and is hard to work with. So why is a poly/nylon tent from nemo only $30 less?
In regards to the 1p version; Totally disagree… no vent, can’t setup fly first, small vestibule, small interior, fly doesn’t cover entire tent, and too expensive. I’ve been using the Marmot Tungsten 1p original version and UL version for the past 8 years. Marmot doesn’t get a lot of attention but deserves some respect for putting out a fantastic 1p totally free standing tent. I’ve put the UL version thru hell and it performs beautifully! They’ve earned my loyalty!
You do realize in most tents the rain fly is the only “waterproof” layer beyond the bottom of the tent (ie, the tops of tents are mesh). It doesn’t matter if it’s the fly or the tent as long as it’s waterproof and there is air circulation. I have personally used the Nemo Hornet in severe rain storms, it’s never gotten wet beyond condensation that happens in all tents from trapped moisture, temperature differences inside/outside the tent, breathing, etc.
DAN! I had no idea that you were mentioned in the office! I was just watching and andy mentioned your name while reading a magazine XD season 7 episode 5 2:15 seconds in.
For a freestanding or semi, whatever, it seems like the best option. Trekking poles come in handy for tarps, etc, so it's hard to decide. At that weight, I think I would go for it eventually. It helps to know it lasts that long. It seems like it would be flimsy.
I dont backpack (yet) but i have a nemo aurora highrise 4 person tent, and i love it, its big enough to stand in and its wide enough to comfortably sleep 4 people if needed.
I think this video is misleading as none of these tents are fully freestanding, and Nemo is not the king of freestanding tents. Their tents and many others with same design are semi-free standing tents. Hope you could correct this in your future videos. Tents like Hilleberg Allak and Unna are actual free standing tents and considered by many as the king og freestanding tents :) Love your other content! Greetings from Norway. Please help me like this comment so Dan can see this!
Bruh. The definition of a free standing tent is simply that it can hold its shape without being staked out. I'm not sure if you've ever slept in one of these before but they most definitely can hold their shape without being staked out. Unna tents have stake out points for the same reason these do. Just because they can stand doesn't, mean they won't blow away. Where I live, out backpacking and canoe sites are typically on a couple inches of pine needs over rock so you can't use tent stakes and the hornet is the tent I use. It's free standing through and through.
Not sure you can actually lay in these semi free standing tents with two people and have the inner touch your sleeping bag unless you stake it or are really small...
@@atzedevries9563 I've done it a few times. It's not too bad. With the hornet two person, you're touching the walls regardless if you have two people in it. Once your pads are in there, they pull the walls out pretty well the same as if it was staked out. Being staked out obviously does help but they do a good job just free standing.
Love the video. I have the original Hornet 2p and I have loved it on every single trip. However, calling it a freestanding tent could be misleading since it is considered a semi-freestanding tent. Either way great information for the new upgrades that Nemo is making.
Still love my 2 person Coleman free standing tent ….it weighs just shy of 3.8 pounds and the poles are less than 1 pound….the tent is 6’ by 6’ and 43 inches tall… it packs down 11” height / by 5” by 5” in a compression sack…2 adults my size fit with just enough room for our packs…it’s a 3 season, but in reality it’s just like a 4 season tent…hands down better than any of these over priced tents that are SHAMELESSLY PROMOTED here.
I love my Nemo Hornet Elite 1p tent. It’s been great! I recently purchased my first trekking pole tent, Gossamer Gear The One. Both of these tents are quite small, but are fine for me as I am only 5’4” and 115 lbs 🏕
I am genuinely curious why more backpackers do not buy the 1 or 2p version of these light weight tents in their bikepacking series. While I love my Durston - I want a freestanding 1 person tent. But diving into all the options I’m drawn to the shorter pole sections of bike packing tents. Weight is similar enough to not be the issue and I’d just toss the tent bag and use my own compression bag so it all fits in the pack, poles included. I’m just surprised we don’t see more of that in recommendations and curious as to why?
I specifically don't like Nemo Tents due to the rain fly at the end. I used to think that it was nit-picking too until I woke up and with so much water in the tent that I had to pack out and go home early. Everything else about the tent i enjoyed but for the price, I don't want that rain fly.
Cool video... So what would everyone say IS on par with this tent, but... can be used as an "everyday" 2 person... It seems like the single biggest requirement for 2PT's is that two 25" pads can fit.. However, with that being the case.. Are their any "tapered" sleeping pads that can/do compare with the best non-tapered pads on the market in 2024?.. Trying to work out my sleep system for me and my 15 y/o son. After our last few hikes with a boat anchor tent, we desperately need to shed some weight and improve comfort (tent) to be able to continue to flourish and enjoy our overnighters even more. Tips and opinions are very much welcome ???
I have the Nemo Firefly…never seen anyone else with one? It’s a great tent! It’s like the new one you showed only better!? I’m not sure why they don’t sell it anymore! I’d be curious to know as like I said it better than even that new tent!? Weird.
I love your videos! Thank you for taking the time to make them. Super helpful! I'm curious why we don't see the MSR FreeLite on your tent list? Have you tried it and just don't like it?
I thought you hated rainbow zippers?! I thought the Big Agnes was your favorite?! Mind: blown. I'm so glad you're with me on the NEMO because I love it. I have the green one. I actually like the color, but I don't like that it reflects a little weird inside and make me see green in certain conditions. It's like if I'm distance running in a red or orange shirt (don't). Every now and then I think for an instant that I have an awful nose bleed, but it's just light bouncing off the shirt. Anyway, I might upgrade just for the gray color. Thanks, Dan!
This new material on these Nemo tents (i was looking at the dragonfly)- I know it has the extra water repellency technology but it’s still only a very paltry 1200/1500mm waterproofing on the fly. Do you think this is sufficient in wet conditions/rainy seasons when typically the tents usually have a 3000-4000mm waterproofing (like Xmid)? Does the advertised ‘3 x repellency’ actually equate to having an extra 3000mm waterproofing? Because the tent looks amazing but this water head column seems way too low for the category and price? Thanks so much!
I know I’m focused on the wrong thing here, but where was he in Texas. Gotta be NE somewhere? I primarily backpack in Texas but haven’t done east Texas. Looks like a great spot.
Hey Dan! I'm a new backpacker, and I'd really value your opinion on this because I'm about to buy all new gear. (I've never bought gear before.) Do you have any suggestions on a tent to get if I'm super tall? I'm 6'5", and it'd be nice to have some space. Also, any sleeping bags for tall people?
I have the original Nemo hornet elite 2p, totally amazing except on my last thru hike the fiddly velcro tabs failed and then in strong winds a corner tore along the stitching line. Anyone else had problems with the velcro or a rip?
Hi Dan - questions - does the base model hornet have dual zippers or both models only have a single zipper? Secondly, why does the elite model pack differently (19 x 4 x 2 vs 12.5 x 7.5 x 3.5)?
I wonder how much of a sail that tent becomes if there is high wind hitting the scoop cut-out of the rainfly, funneling wind in between the inner and rainfly. I expect some people might say to set it up to face away from the wind. wind directions can change overnight. Especially at elevation in mountain summit areas with lots of features redirecting wind.
We were in some pretty gnarly winds in Colorado at 12,000 feet. I just faced that end towards the wind because it is the most robust side of the tent. It did fine.
@@DanBecker Are you saying you faced the scooped out side toward the wind and it did fine? That's surprising. Ive seen other reviews where it became a wind sail of sorts.
I have a Durston 1p, and regularly backpack with friends who have Hornet 2p. The Durston 1p is probably closer in size to the Hornet 2p than the Durston 2p. If you plan to mostly use it solo the Hornet will be big enough for one with gear inside. If you plan to actually sleep 2 people regularly, the Durston 2p will be much more comfortable.
Freestanding > trekking pole tent Any time you have to set up on hard ground and deal with tent stakes there's groan factor. Both get the job done but don't underestimate the luxury factor of not having to arse around with tensioning lines.
You’re an engaging speaker and entertaining to watch, but I would implore you to go beyond purely gear review channel. Chronicle your trips, go over trip planning, talk about gear packing, meal prep, camp cooking, etc. you’re more than just a gear guy, show us.
Hey Dan, love your vids. Gonna have to agree to disagree on this one. The hornet was a disaster for me in wind. Its only use case is in trees with no chance of wind. Nemo is using sub par cordage now that snaps and the poles snap when the cordage does.
Too much “this tent” vs “that tent”……. You lost me bro… WHICH tent are you talking about? I counted three different tents or is it two old versions and two new versions..? When talking about two or more tents in one video (tents, sleeping bags, whatever) ya kinda gotta be pretty clear which one you’re talking about. My suggestion is LISTEN to your video and don’t watch it… I think most folks will get lost in this one pretty quickly.
Do they have a three person tent that’s good for two people? Sharing the load to carry a tent into the back country, it would be great if these companies offered options for a comfortable tent for two people and their gear. Most two person tents will not comfortably fit two people and their backpack / gear.
Look in to Tarptent brand tents. They specialize in tents that are very light to ultralight while still prioritizing livable space. The rainbow series is a semi-freestanding tent with a whole range of variations.
Nemo Dagger 3p. It is 100% freestanding and if you opt for the footprint you can pitch fly first and use it with or without the inner tent. Floor is 90" x 70".....plenty of comfort for 2 people.
Ya no. The freestanding king is the Hilleberg Staika, the lightweight backpacking freestanding king is the Hilleberg Rogen or Niak. Nemo tents aren't even high end they are mid tier. Above things like Colemans below things Hillebergs.
Those tents are so short you hit both the head a feet. When the rain fly dosent go to the ground either your head or bag get wet. Be honest Dan. Your head and feet hit both in THIS video.
@DanBecker for sure not uncomfortable, but when it rains or is even dewy in the morning the rain fly not going all the way down you get wet touching the tent. It's just a bummer. Ever try one of the tarp-tents out?
I don’t get it. What’s the “major upgrade” that warrants a video in 2024? I bought that exact osmo 2p on sale last year, and the osmo elite exists for a while as well. Nothing changed as far as I can tell. What am I missing?
So the fly is Osmo but the exposed backside is not? What engineer came up with that horse 💩? I have the Hornet 1p and only got it because it was on a steep discount. I hate that it’s almost my perfect tent but the cut out backside is stupid and everyone says it so why don’t they listen to the customer? Nemo’s like, lets do another iteration but keep pissing people off and keep the nylon backside exposed. I don’t care if it works or not…the consumer doesn’t like it and you miss sales because of it. We want to batten down the hatches when it rains…You can’t always point the tent perfectly into the wind. Wind directions change.
My backpacking course: www.danbeckeroutdoors.com/ It’s my entire channel condensed into a few videos and a 58 page booklet. Hope you’ll check it out!!!
Love the colab for the cloth testing
You forgot to mention that this tent is only a 2 person tent if you use 20 inch wide pads. The tent tapers at the foot part to only 43 inches
oh, that is a key point! we currently have 22" wide accordion sleeping mats (Canadian Tire house-brand, wider than Z-lites but roughly the same thickness/comfortwise), but have been wanting to get some 25" wide inflatables as we upgrade our gear.
would love to take you backpacking here in scotland. we have a freedom of roaming law here and it basically means nowhere is off limits. alot of land owners have a honesty box with supplies to help also.
I've had a few semi-freestanding tents with the fly cutouts at the headend and haven't had any problems with condensation or leakage. I could maybe see there being condensation issues under very specific conditions.
I have the Hornet 2p Osmo and love it. First trip had 2 nights of rain, one of which was windy thunderstorms, no problems whatsoever.
I love it too!
Good to know! I've not heard of many people reviewing how they do in heavy rain. I was always curious if water pooled/dripped on the side where the fly is cut super high. I worried it might drip straight down onto the tent underneath. No issues there?
@@sizzel6 none at all! I was very pleased with it! I too was a little concerned about that area, but it performed well!
There is a 3 person version of the Hornet OSMO and it is absolutely perfect for 2. Best tent I ever had.
Hey Dan , I have the Nemo meta 2p and it’s AWSOME. It’s an older tent but very roomy but kinda heavy for today’s standard at 3.5 0 pounds. It would be great if Nemo could re- release this pole tent with their new light weight material. Thanks for your time and we love your videos.
I really like the osmo 2P, works great for 1 person and so lightweight. Enjoy your reviews. Enjoy the collaboration with Steven also. God bless
Let us not forget about Nemo’s fabulous warranty
I opted for the Dragonfly OSMO 2P over the hornet for the fully freestanding tent and extra stake out point on the vestibule for more space. I could not be happier with the tent. Nemo makes great stuff.
I love my Dragonfly. More head and shoulder room and more stable IMO. Worth the couple of ounces extra.
I bought the nemo osmo dagger this spring and took it in the Minnesota boundary waters for a week in June. We had 7 inches of rain one day and I was very happy the tent kept me dry. I'm a full believer in the osmo fabric after that. It didn't sag much at all and dried out quickly after.
Nope. I prefer my Big Agnes Copper Spur UV UL2. The reason I switched to a two person tent is because of the narrow ceiling on a solo tent, which I hated. However I do like the new, less stretchy fabric on the new Nemo, but that's it
Hi Dan, the Nemo looks like a cool tent but i dont know how any free standing tent that doesn't pitch in one as in outer and inner together canbbe the "King of free standing tents". I get the US campers tend to prefer the inner pitch first but they just dont work so well in lets say countries like the UK where you expect rain even in the summer months.
Great colab, love that you got a tech nerd lol to do the testing.
Cheers from the UK, Gary
He's not in the UK, my man. The conditions there are a nonfactor in his determination.
I have an original Hornet Elite 2P without any brow-pole at all. Never had a problem with headroom having a 2p for 1p camping. Taken on hundreds of miles and never had a problem with water on the headwall. One of my best purchases ever. I still carry it a lot over my super-expensive durston because I don't like using Trekking poles all that much on flat trails (I live in Florida, so that's a lot of my hikes), and I take it bike-packing. Great tent that has stood the test of time!
I looked at Nemo tents, but wasn't convinced by them for UK weather, In the need I compromised and bought a Wechsel Exogen 2 tent for my Bike touring trips (its 1.9kg, but weight wasn't my primary concern for touring). they do a lighter 1 person version. Very happy with the choice. Also truly freestanding.
I have the OSMO 2P Dragonfly, bike packing version, and I just love it. The fasteners at the corners are wonderful.
I love laying my junk out in my tent. I have the Veda 2p and while it's a trekking pole tent it's still got a lot of cool features. Our freestanding goto is the North Face Stormbreak 3. Not really a backpacking tent but it's worth the added durability. Been in heavy thunderstorms and stayed completely dry.
The hornet elite 2p is still one of my favorite tents. I also have the zpacks altiplex for my solo missions which is awesome too.
I’ve logged a shocking number of nights in my REI Quarter Dome SL1. Look for one used… fantastic little tent
Bummed they stop making that tent.
Big agnus tiger wall ul2 platinum is my go after my X-mid pro 2. I bet soon as durston releases the X-Dome that will over take all the free and semi-free standing tents
Best Freestanding or semi freestanding Tent is hands down the Tarptent DoubleRainbow Lithium . Seriously
Haven’t tried it yet. I’ve heard good things!
I have the Rainbow Li and the Double Rainbow DW Ultra. Both are inedible tents. The Rainbow Li I have held up to 40mph winds in alpine settings. They are quite spacious for their category, and very lightweight. I couldn't be happier with them.
Its also interesting to note; the reason why Tarptents li series is so expensive is because its made of DCF, a proprietary material they have to buy at high prices, and is hard to work with. So why is a poly/nylon tent from nemo only $30 less?
I have the DW Ultra version. A near perfect tent.
@@finneganmagee can you pitch the fly high up if the ground is uneven?
In regards to the 1p version; Totally disagree… no vent, can’t setup fly first, small vestibule, small interior, fly doesn’t cover entire tent, and too expensive. I’ve been using the Marmot Tungsten 1p original version and UL version for the past 8 years. Marmot doesn’t get a lot of attention but deserves some respect for putting out a fantastic 1p totally free standing tent. I’ve put the UL version thru hell and it performs beautifully! They’ve earned my loyalty!
Only problem I have with this tent ,
The rainfly does not cover the whole tent
You do realize in most tents the rain fly is the only “waterproof” layer beyond the bottom of the tent (ie, the tops of tents are mesh). It doesn’t matter if it’s the fly or the tent as long as it’s waterproof and there is air circulation. I have personally used the Nemo Hornet in severe rain storms, it’s never gotten wet beyond condensation that happens in all tents from trapped moisture, temperature differences inside/outside the tent, breathing, etc.
DAN! I had no idea that you were mentioned in the office! I was just watching and andy mentioned your name while reading a magazine XD season 7 episode 5 2:15 seconds in.
That color blends in pretty nice. Like the upgrades too.
Thank you for sharing insight
For a freestanding or semi, whatever, it seems like the best option. Trekking poles come in handy for tarps, etc, so it's hard to decide. At that weight, I think I would go for it eventually. It helps to know it lasts that long. It seems like it would be flimsy.
I dont backpack (yet) but i have a nemo aurora highrise 4 person tent, and i love it, its big enough to stand in and its wide enough to comfortably sleep 4 people if needed.
3:00. I really didn’t want to think about Dan “laying his junk out”, but he did it!!! 😂
I think this video is misleading as none of these tents are fully freestanding, and Nemo is not the king of freestanding tents. Their tents and many others with same design are semi-free standing tents. Hope you could correct this in your future videos. Tents like Hilleberg Allak and Unna are actual free standing tents and considered by many as the king og freestanding tents :) Love your other content! Greetings from Norway. Please help me like this comment so Dan can see this!
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Wanted to make this comment as well.
Bruh. The definition of a free standing tent is simply that it can hold its shape without being staked out. I'm not sure if you've ever slept in one of these before but they most definitely can hold their shape without being staked out.
Unna tents have stake out points for the same reason these do. Just because they can stand doesn't, mean they won't blow away.
Where I live, out backpacking and canoe sites are typically on a couple inches of pine needs over rock so you can't use tent stakes and the hornet is the tent I use. It's free standing through and through.
Not sure you can actually lay in these semi free standing tents with two people and have the inner touch your sleeping bag unless you stake it or are really small...
@@atzedevries9563 I've done it a few times. It's not too bad. With the hornet two person, you're touching the walls regardless if you have two people in it. Once your pads are in there, they pull the walls out pretty well the same as if it was staked out.
Being staked out obviously does help but they do a good job just free standing.
This is when short folks like me n my wife can benefit from this little tent. We sit perfectly inside our 2p nemo hornet osmo dragon
I've never had a leak from the back but i would recommend guying the rain cover at the back to pull it away
Love the video. I have the original Hornet 2p and I have loved it on every single trip. However, calling it a freestanding tent could be misleading since it is considered a semi-freestanding tent. Either way great information for the new upgrades that Nemo is making.
Still love my 2 person Coleman free standing tent ….it weighs just shy of 3.8 pounds and the poles are less than 1 pound….the tent is 6’ by 6’ and 43 inches tall… it packs down 11” height / by 5” by 5” in a compression sack…2 adults my size fit with just enough room for our packs…it’s a 3 season, but in reality it’s just like a 4 season tent…hands down better than any of these over priced tents that are SHAMELESSLY PROMOTED here.
Thank You Dan for another great video 11:07
I love my Nemo Hornet Elite 1p tent. It’s been great! I recently purchased my first trekking pole tent, Gossamer Gear The One. Both of these tents are quite small, but are fine for me as I am only 5’4” and 115 lbs 🏕
I am genuinely curious why more backpackers do not buy the 1 or 2p version of these light weight tents in their bikepacking series. While I love my Durston - I want a freestanding 1 person tent. But diving into all the options I’m drawn to the shorter pole sections of bike packing tents. Weight is similar enough to not be the issue and I’d just toss the tent bag and use my own compression bag so it all fits in the pack, poles included. I’m just surprised we don’t see more of that in recommendations and curious as to why?
I've been looking for a tent for a trip to Montana later this year. I'll check this one out!
I specifically don't like Nemo Tents due to the rain fly at the end. I used to think that it was nit-picking too until I woke up and with so much water in the tent that I had to pack out and go home early. Everything else about the tent i enjoyed but for the price, I don't want that rain fly.
Nemo is solid. I love my Hornet 2.
Cool video... So what would everyone say IS on par with this tent, but... can be used as an "everyday" 2 person... It seems like the single biggest requirement for 2PT's is that two 25" pads can fit.. However, with that being the case.. Are their any "tapered" sleeping pads that can/do compare with the best non-tapered pads on the market in 2024?.. Trying to work out my sleep system for me and my 15 y/o son. After our last few hikes with a boat anchor tent, we desperately need to shed some weight and improve comfort (tent) to be able to continue to flourish and enjoy our overnighters even more. Tips and opinions are very much welcome ???
I have the Nemo Firefly…never seen anyone else with one? It’s a great tent! It’s like the new one you showed only better!? I’m not sure why they don’t sell it anymore! I’d be curious to know as like I said it better than even that new tent!? Weird.
I love your videos! Thank you for taking the time to make them. Super helpful! I'm curious why we don't see the MSR FreeLite on your tent list? Have you tried it and just don't like it?
Inner pitch first? That alone disqualifies it from being king.
Perfect as a new tent for me 😊
I thought you hated rainbow zippers?! I thought the Big Agnes was your favorite?! Mind: blown. I'm so glad you're with me on the NEMO because I love it. I have the green one. I actually like the color, but I don't like that it reflects a little weird inside and make me see green in certain conditions. It's like if I'm distance running in a red or orange shirt (don't). Every now and then I think for an instant that I have an awful nose bleed, but it's just light bouncing off the shirt. Anyway, I might upgrade just for the gray color. Thanks, Dan!
Cool collab. with @MyLifeOutdoors . Thanks for the informative review.
This new material on these Nemo tents (i was looking at the dragonfly)- I know it has the extra water repellency technology but it’s still only a very paltry 1200/1500mm waterproofing on the fly. Do you think this is sufficient in wet conditions/rainy seasons when typically the tents usually have a 3000-4000mm waterproofing (like Xmid)? Does the advertised ‘3 x repellency’ actually equate to having an extra 3000mm waterproofing? Because the tent looks amazing but this water head column seems way too low for the category and price? Thanks so much!
I know I’m focused on the wrong thing here, but where was he in Texas. Gotta be NE somewhere? I primarily backpack in Texas but haven’t done east Texas. Looks like a great spot.
Hey Dan! I'm a new backpacker, and I'd really value your opinion on this because I'm about to buy all new gear. (I've never bought gear before.) Do you have any suggestions on a tent to get if I'm super tall? I'm 6'5", and it'd be nice to have some space. Also, any sleeping bags for tall people?
Love the crossover
What are your thoughts on the Tushar Rain Jackets you guys are wearing? More breathable than the competition?
Just wondering how come none of the major gear reviewers talked about the BA tiger wall 2 carbon? Lightest 2 person semi free standing tent
I have the original Nemo hornet elite 2p, totally amazing except on my last thru hike the fiddly velcro tabs failed and then in strong winds a corner tore along the stitching line. Anyone else had problems with the velcro or a rip?
Hi Dan - questions - does the base model hornet have dual zippers or both models only have a single zipper? Secondly, why does the elite model pack differently (19 x 4 x 2 vs 12.5 x 7.5 x 3.5)?
I’m not seeing it available at REI, Backcountry or Garage Grown Gear.
I wonder how much of a sail that tent becomes if there is high wind hitting the scoop cut-out of the rainfly, funneling wind in between the inner and rainfly.
I expect some people might say to set it up to face away from the wind. wind directions can change overnight. Especially at elevation in mountain summit areas with lots of features redirecting wind.
We were in some pretty gnarly winds in Colorado at 12,000 feet. I just faced that end towards the wind because it is the most robust side of the tent. It did fine.
@@DanBecker Are you saying you faced the scooped out side toward the wind and it did fine? That's surprising. Ive seen other reviews where it became a wind sail of sorts.
I have the dagger and I love it
Osmo is great
I thought you preferred the zpac duplex free standing tent. Or was that last week😊
I’m torn between the 2p durston or the hornet.
I have a Durston 1p, and regularly backpack with friends who have Hornet 2p. The Durston 1p is probably closer in size to the Hornet 2p than the Durston 2p.
If you plan to mostly use it solo the Hornet will be big enough for one with gear inside. If you plan to actually sleep 2 people regularly, the Durston 2p will be much more comfortable.
Freestanding > trekking pole tent
Any time you have to set up on hard ground and deal with tent stakes there's groan factor. Both get the job done but don't underestimate the luxury factor of not having to arse around with tensioning lines.
Have you tested the Slingfin Portal 1 or 2?
The Nemo Hornet Elite is THE BEST TENT EVERRRRRR! Nuff said.
Tarptent double rainbow Li is better (in my opinion, of course). You have to look at that one!
What size juventus hoodie do you rock?
You’re an engaging speaker and entertaining to watch, but I would implore you to go beyond purely gear review channel. Chronicle your trips, go over trip planning, talk about gear packing, meal prep, camp cooking, etc. you’re more than just a gear guy, show us.
Probably would have went with this tent if the fly had full coverage. Opted for the Copper Spur instead
That’s a great tent too!
it looks awsome just in my country its way expensive its like the income of a mont so it will be a while until i get one
Perfect size, unless you’re over 6’2 and sleep on a pad thicker than an accordion closed cell foam one.
I love Dan, my brother, but again another person talking about free standing tents without referencing the Slingfin Portal 2 which is better.
“It’s always nice to have more space, so you can lay your junk out” - 😅😅
I have tents, why I want another is a mystery. This one seems pretty cool. Thanks for the share. 👴
Hey Dan, love your vids. Gonna have to agree to disagree on this one. The hornet was a disaster for me in wind. Its only use case is in trees with no chance of wind. Nemo is using sub par cordage now that snaps and the poles snap when the cordage does.
Good to know! Always great to get other peoples perspective and uses! I haven’t had any issues in wind.
@@DanBecker hopefully you won’t have any issues. Have an awesome weekend :)
Nemo the best brand ever
No apex vent is a killer for me
Sorry🤔. What did you say about the space in the tent?🤐 I do love this tent and the videos.
How do we call this "freestanding"? Freestanding should be standing and be comfortable without steaks.
Too much “this tent” vs “that tent”……. You lost me bro… WHICH tent are you talking about? I counted three different tents or is it two old versions and two new versions..? When talking about two or more tents in one video (tents, sleeping bags, whatever) ya kinda gotta be pretty clear which one you’re talking about. My suggestion is LISTEN to your video and don’t watch it… I think most folks will get lost in this one pretty quickly.
Do they have a three person tent that’s good for two people? Sharing the load to carry a tent into the back country, it would be great if these companies offered options for a comfortable tent for two people and their gear. Most two person tents will not comfortably fit two people and their backpack / gear.
Look in to Tarptent brand tents. They specialize in tents that are very light to ultralight while still prioritizing livable space. The rainbow series is a semi-freestanding tent with a whole range of variations.
Nemo Dagger 3p. It is 100% freestanding and if you opt for the footprint you can pitch fly first and use it with or without the inner tent. Floor is 90" x 70".....plenty of comfort for 2 people.
Ya no. The freestanding king is the Hilleberg Staika, the lightweight backpacking freestanding king is the Hilleberg Rogen or Niak. Nemo tents aren't even high end they are mid tier. Above things like Colemans below things Hillebergs.
Lol both "lightweight" Hilleberg tents you mention weigh almost twice as much as a nemo hornet.
Free Emmett
I bought a Nemo Dragonfly 1p, and keep kicking myself for not getting a Hornet 2p :-/ I just don't have the budget to fix my mistake
Poor Emmetts paint tarp and holie wool blanket
Why do all of your recent video cover photos look like you came home and caught your wife with Darwin on the Trail? lol
You obviously never have used a Hilleberg.
Regarding the best freestanding tent that title probably currently goes to the new nortent vern 2.
If you get the money get the z pack free zip 2P
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A more accurate way to show headroom would have you sitting on an sleeping pad. I think your head will be brushing the top if you were.
It might be the best.... Until the Durston X-Dome comes out
Those tents are so short you hit both the head a feet. When the rain fly dosent go to the ground either your head or bag get wet. Be honest Dan. Your head and feet hit both in THIS video.
My height at 6’ 2” is it’s limit for sure. But I’m never uncomfortable in it.
@@DanBeckerI’m six four
@DanBecker for sure not uncomfortable, but when it rains or is even dewy in the morning the rain fly not going all the way down you get wet touching the tent. It's just a bummer. Ever try one of the tarp-tents out?
yep, when the wind gets going it annoys the snot out of you, nuzzles your head or your foot constantly while you are trying to sleep.
Do you even backpack bro?
I don’t get it. What’s the “major upgrade” that warrants a video in 2024? I bought that exact osmo 2p on sale last year, and the osmo elite exists for a while as well. Nothing changed as far as I can tell. What am I missing?
unless it can handle a snow load, it can’t possibly be the king of anything.
So the fly is Osmo but the exposed backside is not? What engineer came up with that horse 💩? I have the Hornet 1p and only got it because it was on a steep discount. I hate that it’s almost my perfect tent but the cut out backside is stupid and everyone says it so why don’t they listen to the customer? Nemo’s like, lets do another iteration but keep pissing people off and keep the nylon backside exposed. I don’t care if it works or not…the consumer doesn’t like it and you miss sales because of it. We want to batten down the hatches when it rains…You can’t always point the tent perfectly into the wind. Wind directions change.
Hey Dan, how would the tent work out with a adult? That is about 5.9 and a six-year-old kid not quite 4 foot
It looks small.
That’s what she said.
Hubba Hubba
It’s getting an upgrade too!
That’s east Texas??😂
I live in ETX…..my thoughts exactly 👀
For that price just buy the Duston lol
Just get yourself a Hilleberg Soulo (1p) or Allak (2p) and quit looking