There's a difference between skepticism and cynicism. Unfortunately, most people never exercise healthy skepticism until it's too late. People will accept things as true based on authority alone, and when that comes back to bite them, many of those people turn cynical, with a knee jerk reaction to reject any and all evidence to the contrary, accepting alternative unsubstantiated claims from another perceived authority figure. People need to accept responsibility for evaluating the evidence themselves and making decisions based on logical, reasonable, evidenced information. It's disturbing that you have to take what your doctor says with a grain of salt, or read a peer reviewed study (assuming it's even publicly available without a paywall in place) to determine the validity of said study by yourself, but that's the world we live in.
I once knew a woman that went to a hospice facility to die on over a dozen different medications. They took her off all the medications thinking the end was near, Instead of dying she got well and strong enough to leave that facility and live several more independent good years before dying.
Happy for her. Retired in 2019 from 23 year career in hospice care and I can vouch for this situation. I used to say then that more people would get well if they could just get a good look over from a competent hospice staff for evaluations like you describe. Yes - we are Overmedication Nation. Most people have really been beat up by the medical establishment by the time they arrive at hospice. It can take awhile to gain their trust after so much abuse.
House of God (fictional account of real experiences working in medicine) sort of details this when it comes to medicine. One of the doctors explains why his department has the least amount of deaths compared to the other departments and he confesses "I make it a policy to treat as few patients as possible. I have found doctors probably kill as many people as they save, so my official policy is do the least amount of medicine as I can."
That happened with my grandma she was on a bunch of pills, it was New Year's Eve she almost died my dad was checking on her he went to the doctor and took her off all pills and she lived a few years more
My grandmother was the most important person in my life, she raised me. She had been taking Vioxx for a yr or two, and had a stroke that debilitated her. She was told to stop taking it then, but I guess the damage was done at that point. She had another stroke shortly after getting out of the hospital and that one ultimately took her life. She didn't qualify for inclusion in the lawsuit because she had one or two unrelated health problems, non life-threatening. Can you guess how I feel about a health care system built to financially profit from the most vulnerable moments of our lives?
I dated one of the Vioxx engineers daughters, he still got an award after the fact and it’s hanging up in his home office in Texas…. These people believe they’re in a class of their own.
@@venicebeachsportsnetwork6677 WE have socialized healtcare in canada. We are going in curfew again tomorrow. businesses are going bankrupt because we have to "save" the deffective healthcare system. It cost me around 30k$ each year in taxes to pay for that failing system.
My dad got blood clots in his feet from this, but recovered. A year later my doc wanted to prescribe for a kidney stone. I said I didn’t want it, but she insisted, put some samples in my hand, which I then threw in the garbage as I exited the facility! Big red flag that she wanted to give me even though I told her my dads story. Got a new doctor shortly thereafter!
Listen to all of the people right now screaming 'Trust the science' with vaccines as if you are supposed to blindly trust every single doctor you come into contact with. Billions of doctors were telling us that Vioxx is completely safe and prescribing it.
It could just be that the dr was ignorant of how harmful they were, these experts are trained to trust the “ studies”, they’re also incapable of thinking critically which is why it’s even more important that patients do, this is just another consequence of a lousy university system.
@@guyinthechat9533 I think the vaccine is safe and trusted because so many countries and body’s have oversight of it. But in America distrust has lead to downfall, radicalism and social fracturing, honestly the officials need to get a grip and learn how to govern a developed nation before the consequences catch up with them.
I was prescribed Vioxx for back pain when it first hit the market around '99 or 2000. An old, wise friend pulled me to the side and in a very stern and worried tone told me to stop taking the medication because "people will be dropping like flies very soon" I never questioned his advice and discarded the medication immediately even after my doctor assured me it was safe for use. Fast forward a few years later and Vioxx was taken off the market because you guessed it people were dropping like flies from heart attacks. Thank you Vicenzo for serving this country and for all the knowledge you shared with me.
Vicenzo worked for the company that made Vioxx. He knew EXACTLY what was going on. How else would he know? Let us all praise Vicenzo, the man who worked for Vioxx who whispered to his friend that he shouldn't take Vioxx because he could totally die man. PRAISE VICENZO!
I am a victim of a motor vehicle accident knocked over 1/10 of a mile from the point of impact. Dr prescribed Vioxx and it made me sick, bad stomach ache, I stopped use. A friend from water therapy had a terrible reaction and it hurt her stomach so bad she was bent over with stomach cramps and in pain, crying during therapy and had to leave. I told her to quit taking it, she said she was following doctors orders. When you are disabled and drawing worker’s compensation, a lot of doctors force you to take medication and say if you don’t take your meds they will not fill out your Workers Compensation medical forms knowing you will lose your disability payments. Pharma pays docs for prescribing their meds, it is a big racket with crooks in a lot of the medical field, using patients as pawns.
Oh yeah! I didn’t even think of that. They police whether you take the meds and are unwilling to go to alternatives if you’re uncomfortable with the possible side effects when you’re going through wcb or even private disability claims.
I was working at a pharma software company when myself and a former nurse figured out how the Vioxx crime was perpetrated. We raised the issue and tried to make sure the new software we were building for another pharma giant to prevent this from ever happening there. They balked. They fought back. Ultimately they ended our contract. They wanted to keep the ability to fudge the data in ways that the FDA did not know about.
@@abelucious I don't think they did. A conspiracy at that level of collusion would have been impossible to keep under wraps as long as it was. What my coworker and I discovered could have been done by one or two people with database access to the diagnostic thesaurus and some modelling software, plus somebody higher up giving the orders. What I learned in my five years in the pharma industry is that there are a lot of people both in private companies and in government who really do care about patients ... and a few assholes on top whose incentives are only about stock prices no matter who gets hurt.
@@DG-xj7pm "Funding and profit" does not describe the FDA. The FDA doesn't make a profit. They make rules. They're about power. Some of the rules are actually good ones, but they're written so that loopholes can be exploited -- same as any other government agency. There's nothing in the world wrong with making a profit ... unless you're doing so by wresting political power away from where it belongs, and THAT is what is wrong with the FDA and its incestuous relationship with industry.
Drive anywhere deep in West Virginia or Kentucky and see how federal government took their jobs and then big Pharma swooped in and took their livelihood... but the self righteous people say things like "oh well they're trumpers who care" or "nobody cared about black people during the crack epidemic".... yet the crack epidemic ended.
It's also depressing that elected public servant positions that pays ~200k a year are filled with multi-millionaires. I wonder if the two are connected?
When my dad died from complications from diabetes (possible Agent Orange exposure in Vietnam) we emptied 2 cabinet shelves stocked with prescribed medications. It was a staggering amount of pills and I know he never asked doctors questions. They prescribed it, he took it. RIP dad.
My uncle used to buy whatever was prescribed HALF the time (very cheap because it's government subsidised almost entirely), but then because he done everything his own way, he wouldn't take much. There was still a bag full of blister packs after I cleaned the place out. Literally one box of painkillers I kept and I think antihistamines but the rest were for specific problems.
Merck’s lead attorney throughout the entire litigation process was Kenneth Frazier. After he successfully beat back the many lawsuits in which Merck’s liability was initially estimated to be between $20-50 billion, he was eventually rewarded for his efforts by being named CEO, a job he held for over a decade. His cumulative salary + stock payments were well over $100 million during his tenure as CEO….
MEDICINE SHOULD NEVER BE POLITICIZED!!!!!!!!!!!!! AFTER I READ ALL GOOD THINGS ABOUT HYDROXYCLOROQUINE AND COVID.... THE SECOND!!!!!!! TRUMP MENTIONED IT IT WAS bad???????????????
@Dim and yet, there are 2 safe drugs that have been in use for so long that their patents have run out. In one case the drug has been given to millions of people as both a prophylactic and as a treatment for over 4 decades. No significant side effects and safer than paracetamol. These drugs were shown to be efficacious against covid in several trials. In one drug there have been over 50 trials showing it is efficacious. Two trials seeming to show it us not. In a meta analysis of those trials, Dr Tess Lawrie, a top scientist in the UK and her team found that the trials were all, except fir the Colombian trial and one other, well conducted . Yet all Western countries rejected these very cheap and effective drugs, going so far as to lie and say that there has been no scientific proof of their safety in treating covid. In fact, there has been more trials and proof of safety than there has been of the vaccines and the new drugs that have been brought out by Pfizer and Merck. The question has to be asked as to WHY this is so. Follow the money!
@Dim either that or big pharma had a change of heart over night. They actually want to help ppl. I'm sure the 20 billion more it made than any other drug last year and the projected 58 billion more they'll make of of mandates. ( not including boosters). Will be donated to a good cause. I also now hear they won't mark up insulin and other life sustaining drugs up by over 1000 percent because they no longer care about the money and just want to help
Thank you Joe and John very informative. As a cancer survivor and fighter continuous leave for the last 10 years I truly appreciate you continuing to bring light to the surface of the pharmaceutical companies.
I’m so sorry. I feel for you. My grandma died of a combination of ibuprofen and a blood thinner called xarelto. She got stomach ulcers and bled from the inside out essentially. If they used warfarin a IV of vitamin k would’ve saved her. She didn’t want to take her Vicodin after her surgery and thought that Advil was safer. We sued as well. Not a dime. That’s also what started MY opiate addiction when I found a bottle of oxycodone tens and another full bottle of vicodin in her medicine cabinet. I miss her everyday.
I agree to an extent, but blindly going against advice is also just as bad. As with anything regarding life, death and health, enormous amounts of independent research should be conducted.
After being prescribed statins for cholesterol and other dangerous drugs for gout, I began doing my own research to find out how I could live without an MD and or Big Pharma. That was over 10 years ago. I'm now 72, doing very well with good blood pressure readings, ideal weight and no reason for alarm or medical treatment. Eating habits have changed drastically. Now on a Highfat/lowcarb diet and loving it. My doctor still asks about me and tells my wife that I should go in for a checkup. No Thanks Doc...
@@carbon1631 Oh really, is a statin defeciency the problem? Doctors are a meme, they don't know anything. Fix the problem, doctors only treat symptoms and their goal is profit, not to help people.
I was on Vioxx for several years, I didn't have any issues while on the drug but several years later I had a Heart attack....at age 26. I always wonder how big a factor that played.
I was in a bad substance induced car accident in October of 2020 I was diagnosed with heart failure and only 20% of my left ventricle was working, it’s now at 55%. I still feel like I’m over weight or there is twice as much gravity, I’m 26 too. How do you feel??
I broke my leg and was prescribed Norco. After 10 long years of addiction I'm finally clean and sober. Haven't taken an opiate in over 2 years. It was the hardest battle I ever had to endure. Fuck painkillers!
Hate to burst your bubble man but some people need opioid painkillers to function because they have severe daily pain. Blaming doctors for your opioid addiction isn’t helping people who NEED these medications. Don’t blame your doctor because you enjoyed catching a buzz...a lot of addiction is mental and if there was no mental want for a buzz a taper schedule is more than easy to follow.
@@cjaydustie1867 It's a two way street dude, sometimes a doctor knowns there's going to be sever temporary pain and still prescribes opiates, leading to an addiction. The road to hell is often paved with good intentions
I’ve been there too. I was in a horrible chemical explosion and badly burned. The Norco and other pain meds destroyed my life. It became a ten year battle for me. I would not wish this on my worst enemy. I have not had any type of pain medication in close to ten years. I was suicidal and came close to taking my life multiple times. It felt like a battle I could not win. Big P is run by a group of truly evil people. The suffering they cause to make a profit. It’s disgusting.
@@cjaydustie1867 no one NEEDS these meds long term. Short term yes they may be useful but There are plenty of natural alternatives that are sustainable. I survived over fifty surgeries due to explosion and 2nd and 3rd degree burns. The worst thing that happened to me in all that was being prescribed opiates long term and I did not enjoy any kind of buzz. Just because you might don’t put that shit off on everyone else.
I hear ya. My mom is 82, does well, but same thing. When I was young(80s-early 90's) living at home she had a huge medicine cabinet full. She would save everything. Here's the deal/thought process I see: In her case, as with maybe a substantial amount of older people...They pay a shitload for healthcare/insurance/etc...and I feel my mom wants the most of her dollar and will take what she can because in her mind, she is getting her money's worth. Instead of diet changes/etc.
MEDICINE SHOULD NEVER BE POLITICIZED!!!!!!!!!!!!! AFTER I READ ALL GOOD THINGS ABOUT HYDROXYCLOROQUINE AND COVID.... THE SECOND!!!!!!! TRUMP MENTIONED IT IT WAS bad???????????????
@@albertotorres7746 my wife’s side of the family is full blooded Navajo. All the men lived well into their 80’s and the women early 90’s. None of them had even been to a modern hospital, taken any of this junk being thrown at us today. Hell they didn’t even have electricity until 2016, pumped their water from a well. Lived healthy lives to the end.
I watched my father for the last 20 years of his life go thru the medicine circus. He used to have an overnight bag for his medicine. He trusted his doctors implicitly, until the end of his life where after getting diagnosed with cancer and they basically wrote him off. It was sad, but it motivated me to start taking better care of myself.
I'm sorry for what you, your family, and your father went through. I've also witnessed loved ones trust their doctor whole-heartedly to be cast out after their cancer diagnosis.
ya most docs are drug dealers. Instead of finding the root they just push pills to mask the problem til finally the body gives up. I always tried to eat good but more so now that I'm in my 40s.
Thanks everyone. The most frustrating thing was not only did he get medicated for his illnesses, he then had to take medicines to counteract the side effects of the medicine. I always thought it was ridiculous.
This is the exact reason you don't take medicine when it first comes out. No doctor should recommend brand new medicine till it has been properly studied by multiple parties for both long and short term effects
I had heart attack/ triple bypass from eating shit and smoking 4 years ago, doctors gave me the same protocol of med's they give everybody. I started doing research, completely changed my lifestyle eating lifting weights treadmill all so i didn't have to take their poison. Today at 58 have a build like Joe and doctor's won't see me because i don't take med's. I FEEL GREAT !AND NO JAB TO BOOT!
My Aunt retired in her first year her Doctor gave her this stuff in about two weeks she was in a coma and her organs began shutting down and she died….. unbelievable these Pharmaceutical Companies cannot be held accountable
That was sarcasm right? You think the pharma companies give a shit about you or are somehow better today? You really need to turn your TV off if you do because you're severely brainwashed.
I remember being prescribed vioxx after I pulled my back while working at Walmart and loading a treadmill into a vehicle. I took a couple of the pills and stopped because it didn't seem to help at all. I focused on stretching each morning before getting out of bed. My back improved and I went on with life. I'm glad I didn't take all that was prescribed to me.
Your lucky that worked, the trouble arises for people when those alternatives do not work, in Australia our drs always prescribe drugs last, it’s rarely prescribed first, unless there’s reason that negate the alternative treatments to drugs. That’s why the “ big pharma” narrative really only makes sense in countries like America, although I think even in the context of America most of the “ big pharma” narratives are jejune cliches.
@@semperfi5857 I just want to know why that makes him poor? I mean he worked at Walmart but shit even that pays decently depending on your area. He already got the drugs but chose not to use them? Wtf am I missing lol
My grandma was on meds for Alzheimer's for ten years. When they finally decided to take her off she started remembering names and faces. She had a whole new quality of life post medication..
Not unusual, they'll get better before immediately taking a turn for the worse being off of the medication. I can't tell you how many times I've heard that from people who wanted to sue a practice. Yes there are individuals who have gotten better having been taken off of meds but the reason as to why isn't so black and white.
@@humane143imperfection6 Well, OP says her life was better post medication. So no turn for the worse in this case scenario. Like you said, the world isn't black and white, so going off medication isn't always a recipe for distaster.
I often think about my grandparents they both take soo many different meds.. then complain of various problems and they won’t believe it could possibly be side effects.. all they can do is tell the doctor who then prescribed more meds for the side effects, or send them to a specialist that prescribe more
My grandmother was the same way. Then she got Alzheimer’s and lost her memory but came off of all 13 drugs she was taking every day. The last 12 years of her life were drug free and she was healthy physically.
I am approaching 60 and 7 yrs ago I realized the pharma scam. I refused all scripts and stopped taking all meds. I have been pharma free and it's wonderful! I do take over counter ie: ibuprofen, tylenol, etc.
I was prescribed vioxx when I was in my early 20s for tennis elbow. I remember my chest started quivering after two days and I felt dizzy in spells throughout the day. Went to the doctor, they ran some tests and just said I was probably sleep deprived. It was years later before I found out what poison that stuff really was. I feel lucky there were no long-term side effects
I had a seizure from Vioxx. It was prescribed to me for a back injury. I first took half the dose prescribed to see how it would effect me. About 30 minutes later I was on the floor having a seizure. The one and only seizure I’ve ever had in my life. It was like my body knew it was bad shit and rejected it immediately.
Every time this happens, the company should forfeit all the sales from the drug + 50%. So if they sell 12 billion worth of the drug, they end up paying 18 billion in damages. I bet this stops really quick.
All you have to do is take away a corporation's ability to identify as an entity and the people within it can be prosecuted, but that won't happen because the criminals who benefit influence and write the laws, giving them a real fee would work too, but neither will ever happen until people get a grip on reality or even care to
It's happening just as I said it would...the healing phase of being "scared to death" is pneumonia, aka "flu". So as people are released from the solitary confinement of their homes (because of media and government lies based on the fraudulent Germ Theory), and people begin to get happy and feel less stressed, the result will be the healing phase....of pneumonia, flu, colds, general sickness. You can also see the light sensitivity, appendicitis in some, numerous tooth problems and gum swelling, laryngitis, etc. The fear campaign has caused ALL the illnesses, not a Boogey Virus. Every disease is based on the Germ Theory, which was the theory of ONE man over 100 years ago. It was never proven to be 100% valid, and has not even been QUESTIONED again. Why? In order for a theory to be valid, it must be reproduceable in each and every person 100% of the time. Every single person exposed to a "virus" MUST get sick from it 100% of the time, over and over again. It's how you PROVE a theory is valid. This was never done. Scientists used to think witches and witchcraft were valid!! Educated people?? hahaha!! If you cannot "catch" cancer, arthritis or diabetes from another person, then you cannot "catch" a cold or flu. There is no such thing that only SOME diseases are communicable, but not all. It's either all or none of them...they are all based on the same Germ Theory. If you can't "catch" someone's lung cancer, you can't "catch" their colds or flu. Upsetting and distressing events in a person's life is what causes ALL cancer and cancer-equivalent disease, cold, flu, pneumonia, bronchitis, etc. A massive fear campaign will CAUSE people to be "worried sick", but sickness doesn't happen until people resolve their fears. Why do you think kids get sick in October? Because their fear of going back to school and being upset about it finally dissolves, and they get back into their routines. What the media and government is doing to people is criminal.
So of course, when everyone is allowed to escape the hostage situation the governments have put their people into, and they start relaxing about the "scary virus" that's not in any way transmissible, they will begin their healing phase (get sick), and the corrupt governments will call it a different “scary” word, a different Boogey Man coming to get you.....repeat the same mistakes that never worked from the beginning, re-institute the same restrictions that only made people more traumatized, and more panic will ensue as well as martial law, a removal of all your rights, and you let it happen. The longer people allow this government to hold them hostage in their homes, the more severe the "sickness" will be. Western Medicine is pure fraud, and people's lives are destroyed because of it. Welcome to the United States of China.
This is exactly the penalty regime I proposed to my partner a few weeks ago! Takes all incentive away then. Should be the minimum consequence and then they deal with personal litigation after that.
I took this for a knee reconstruction (prior and after) at age 26. Around year 2000. It messed up my stomach. Made me have frightening dreams. My dreams kept telling me “it’s the Vioxx”. I finally dreamed something so scary I told myself I’d never touch that medicine again! I’m not in to religion, paranormal or conspiracies. But WOW
I had a back injury around 2002. The military doctor gave me a bottle of vioxx. I was not into meds and asked how he knows its safe. He said something about it not being harsh on the stomach. In order to not offend him, I took the bottle but I through it in the first garbage can I saw. A couple of years later I saw the recall on the news. That is why I won't get the you know what.
When Merck began marketing their HPV vaccin, the sales reps used to say, HPV=have to pay for Vioxx. Thinking that these people have your health in mind is ludicrous.
Back in the early 2000's, I was referred to an M.D. who people claimed was into combining allopathic with alternative medicine. On the 2nd visit he wanted to prescribe vioxx. I asked him what the side effects were. He looked me in the eye and said, 'Oh, you don't have to worry about those." I walked out of his office & never went back.
Imagine this group of people is still working and approving medication after they were responsible for killing 40- 50k people their names should be out in public to be exposed
This is a great podcast; I have been working on a book about this topic for a couple years, and this guy nailed a lot of points. (EDIT: I watched the 2 hour version and it is dang good, highly recommended!)
My grandmother had a stroke due to Vioxx. She was part of that class action lawsuit. My mom was on antidepressants for about a decade and died of an acute subarachnoid hemorrhage at 42. No pharmaceuticals for me thanks.
when you consider the number of Senior deaths, primarily in nursing homes where it was blanket prescribed to tens if not hundreds of thousands, from FDA approval, to withdraw, the number of casualties expands exponentially to hundreds of thousands of deaths, rather than 70,000.
Just to add to the insanity of this story; I worked with an older woman who had not fared well using the other medications and when Vioxx came into her life changed her ability to move around with diminished pain. As long as she was on Vioxx she was active. When Vioxx was removed she was required to go back on her previous meds and her life diminished. The reality is that medical research into pharmaceuticals is a crap shoot. What may offer some form of assistance to some also risks harming others. Just listen to any ad these days and the possible side effects listed at the end of the ad are horrific for every drug.
I was prescribed vioxx in 2003 for a herniated disc. It made me feel weird so I soon stopped taking it. Funny thing was, at my doctor's office there were vioxx labeled pens, notepads, post it holders etc. She said it was a great new effective wonderdrug. Amazing that my doc decided to prescribe it! Much like these supposed covid vaccines, I was skeptical of it and ,my doctors motives, which in that case probably saved my life. And now the thought of questioning these vaccines, of thinking of alternatives even, is met with condemnation, discrimination, and outright anger by many people. Big Pharma has making money as its primary goal, and if it actually works that's a bonus. Thanks Joe for helping to bring these things to light!
The thing that worries me is that you can entirely avoid using unhealthy pharmaceuticals and processed foods, but they dump all the byproduct in our drinking water regardless.
If your drinking city water your are drinking much worse than byproducts. On top of your neighbors recycled piss. Move out of the city and drink real water from the ground
Our food is 100 times worse than anything they could do to the water. Our food is biggest reason why majority of our country is depressed and overweight
@Nixie Tubes exactly. I look at cities as factory/prisons, with enough silly entertainments to keep the weak willed from seeing it. I live in the forest, my well is 12 feet deep and I have a huge garden. I've been saying for years, and Elon musk said the same in a recent interview: the world is far, far from overpopulated. It is silly to think such a thing. We just live wrong. Get out of cities, there is plenty of space out there.
get a Berkey water system. It takes out EVERYTHING! Well worth the cost. Don't drink bottled water. The plastic outgasses into the water no matter what they tell ya.
It's happening just as I said it would...the healing phase of being "scared to death" is pneumonia, aka "flu". So as people are released from the solitary confinement of their homes (because of media and government lies based on the fraudulent Germ Theory), and people begin to get happy and feel less stressed, the result will be the healing phase....of pneumonia, flu, colds, general sickness. You can also see the light sensitivity, appendicitis in some, numerous tooth problems and gum swelling, laryngitis, etc. The fear campaign has caused ALL the illnesses, not a Boogey Virus. Every disease is based on the Germ Theory, which was the theory of ONE man over 100 years ago. It was never proven to be 100% valid, and has not even been QUESTIONED again. Why? In order for a theory to be valid, it must be reproduceable in each and every person 100% of the time. Every single person exposed to a "virus" MUST get sick from it 100% of the time, over and over again. It's how you PROVE a theory is valid. This was never done. Scientists used to think witches and witchcraft were valid!! Educated people?? hahaha!! If you cannot "catch" cancer, arthritis or diabetes from another person, then you cannot "catch" a cold or flu. There is no such thing that only SOME diseases are communicable, but not all. It's either all or none of them...they are all based on the same Germ Theory. If you can't "catch" someone's lung cancer, you can't "catch" their colds or flu. Upsetting and distressing events in a person's life is what causes ALL cancer and cancer-equivalent disease, cold, flu, pneumonia, bronchitis, etc. A massive fear campaign will CAUSE people to be "worried sick", but sickness doesn't happen until people resolve their fears. Why do you think kids get sick in October? Because their fear of going back to school and being upset about it finally dissolves, and they get back into their routines. What the media and government is doing to people is criminal.
So of course, when everyone is allowed to escape the hostage situation the governments have put their people into, and they start relaxing about the "scary virus" that's not in any way transmissible, they will begin their healing phase (get sick), and the corrupt governments will call it a different “scary” word, a different Boogey Man coming to get you.....repeat the same mistakes that never worked from the beginning, re-institute the same restrictions that only made people more traumatized, and more panic will ensue as well as martial law, a removal of all your rights, and you let it happen. The longer people allow this government to hold them hostage in their homes, the more severe the "sickness" will be. Western Medicine is pure fraud, and people's lives are destroyed because of it. Welcome to the United States of China.
@@questioneverything7582 I hate to break this to you, but bacteria and virus are real. So is cancer. Infection can be contagious, but cancer is not. You are incorrect, and you should probably stop thinking in terms of black and white, and instead realize that our existence is chock-full of GRAY AREAS
My partner's mom had dementia and, at one point, was taking a host of prescribed meds. Each caused side effects, for which other meds were prescribed, and yet the mother still suffered high blood pressure etc. After some time, one of her daughters whittled down the med list dramatically and the mother's health (other than the dementia) improved greatly.
I‘m not an american but Joe seems unf*ckable to me, isn‘t he? Like CNN an all this Mainstream Media can say what they wan‘t but Joe is untouchable. Like with the recent horse dewormer bullshit (what is still told in Germany btw 😂 There are even advertisment signs on the street making fun of people using „horsedwormer“ instead of „trusting“ in Science. It‘s a Shame, but we Germans are Choking deeply on the Vaccine Dick)
Honestly I believe he should run for president, he may call himself a moron but he sure knows right from wrong and I believe he would get a lot of trustworthy people in his cabinet
I love that Joe is following this rabbit hole, cant wait to see Robert Malone, and I would be the question, when do we see Mr Keennedy on the channel as well. Huge congrats Joe!
I appreciate all these doctor and scientist guests you've been having lately talking about medicine, treatments, drug, and the pharma companies...VERY interesting for me!
Vioxx gave me a heart condition. I was prescribed due to messing my back up getting my black belt. I took it for a week and could barely wake up in the morning. I stopped it completely and dealt with the pain. Eventually I found yoga and self healed.
I tried vioxx when I was in my twenties and after 2 days I started getting severe irregular heartbeats and stopped immediately. The next week I heard about all the vioxx deaths.
Worse part is Merck knew about the deaths and heart attacks for two years. 8 billion in sales. 4.8 billion in class action lawsuits. Still made a 3.2 billion in profit. For pharma this is just the price of doing business.
I was prescribed this when I was a young teen. It is still the only thing that ever really helped my back. To me it was a miracle drug. I know someone who died from it.
I took it too in my mid 20's ~ 4-5 days/mo for almost 2 yrs 'til it was pulled. I remember being upset when my Dr. told me bc it was only thing that helped me (endometriosis). I called it a wonder drug & I have family history of blood clot issues! Smh!! Thank goodness I/we survived...can't help but feel horrible for the many who didn't.😞 Pharma has no shame - disgusting!🤬
Interesting because I have the same experience. Was a young teen and this worked better than other more well known pain killers with less side effects. Everyone has different chemistry so maybe what was effective for us was very bad for other people. That said I never used pain killers as an adult and realize that a little pain isn't something to medicate for.
I was prescribed this drug as a teenager as well. As a dancer, I was either arthritic or injured at the time, but I was always inflamed. I do have issues… it never occurred to me my stomach issues were from that. 🤔
The drug although banned in America got dumped on the Australian market for months before being withdrawn - an old friend twisted with arthritis swore how good it was stopping pain but had to eventually submit to my advice it was no good previously at my mother's short fatal stay in hospital the first thing they did was stop her viox which the local GP had prescribed.
It's the US Healthcare system in which the doctors get bonuses from pharmaceutical companies to push their drugs. Greed doesn't work with healthcare and can also hinder its advancement too
11.6 million subscribers to this RUclips, Joe has a reach is massive, and I think those who want to expose what is wrong with the world will seek him out. I hope Joe stays safe.
Back in 2002. I had a very bad reaction to vioxx. I had been diagnosed with transverse myelitis and the dr’s said I couldn’t have got it from vioxx because vioxx was an anti-inflammatory so it couldn’t have inflamed my cervical. But what I remember the most when I was at the glenrose hospital. For spinal injury I had a room mate and his name was Chris and what I remember he had a double stroke as a 24 yr old. To this day I wondered why he had such a bad stroke. And he had to leave to Vancouver for treatment because my dr said he had another stroke coming. And is beyond his capabilities. But he must of took. Vioxx.
If you think the Vioxx scandal was bad, it pales in comparison to the current injections that shall not be named, which are likely the most injurious products in the history of medicine.
@@gsesquire3441 I realize the claim I made was bold but I’m willing to discuss why I made it...only if you’re actually open to discussing it honestly, though.
Don’t be afraid to say it. It’s only a matter of time before Moderna and Pfizer go through the same events. I’d like to throw J&J in there but unfortunately I think they’re too big to be affected.
I was prescribed viox after fracturing my hip surfing when I was 19 (Australia). I took it for a year. I now find it very hard to trust the medical system.
I love you Joe. I love that you continue to relentlessly expose fraud and corruption, on a monumental scale. But I won't lie, I'm starting to fear for your life.
Why is that? It doesn't matter how many people listen to a poorly dressed meathead, because they realize that anyone who would listen to him doesn't matter in the first place. He has nothing to fear, until he commands actual respect. Until that time he has nothing to fear.
@Monolith _X that's not the point. The point is ppl are lazy and dont look at anything. But if they continue talking about it on podcasts like this it will make them censor.
That fact that this man has a honest conversation and truth is explained ... this is what a reporter should be ,joe rogan is setting standards and putting people to shame . All while smoking weed
Never only on Spotify Everyone calling Joe a sell out couldn't have been more wrong lol This is why he left you tube because he knew censorship was coming
Of all the things, the biggest cultural shock I faced when I went to America for the first time, was the drug ads. If you’re well travelled, you’d know that the amount of ads and the way that the ads are done by drug companies in America is absolutely shocking. Forget about military spending, gun control, etc - banning drug advertising and regulating drug companies should be agenda no 1 for all Americans.
Science is not a faith based belief system. There is no requirement or expectation to accept something as true without evidence. How were they able to call out Vioxx? Peer reviewed science, that's how.
We can't be critical thinkers when it suits us and then follow blindly so as to stay within our silos and identity (political leanings). We need to have nuanced conversation and keep talking. Big pharma has a long and dubious History of less than ethical behavior. Thank you for speaking out and for facilitating this conversation folks!
The gall of these men decide to call themselves doctors or experts and they let this occur, no one has the right to be the regulatory official when we know so little and are often wrong.
And to think so many of our drs are invested in these same stocks as they write your prescriptions knowing they get kickbacks too. Look into the sunshine act, it shows drs being paid by pharma companies how much and by who and when
I was given Vioxx ,and after taking it for 3 years ,I began keeling over in agony. I had a scope and I had severe bleeding and blocked bile ducts. I still wonder if that’s what’s caused my stomach pain after that . I did have extreme chest pain though , but being young I blew it off .
This is the drug that caused my father's heart issue. He was then given a blood thinner (heparin- banned many places, overly used in the USA) during the surgery to fix what the Vioxx did, and was killed slowly by the heparin use (its called HIT syndrome, it clotted his blood instead of thinning it- they cut off his legs, told us they'd let his fingers fall off on their own-- all to no avail, he died after 4 months of torture. Drs know about heparin as well, but the company makes so much money here, they just pay off the families they torture and keep it moving).
Thank you Joe, this podcast, the one with Peter McCullough and recently the one with Robert Malone were incredible, I rarely listen to the end, but really, wow... I wish you could have Robert F. Kennedy Jr too.
Dude I'm just a jagoff stoner ambulance driver in Eastern Kentucky and I'm in good shape for a 45 year old jagoff but I'm increasingly sceptical of the pharmacy-industrial complex. It's getting weird in this country, and yeah I have no say in it but it's spooky as fuck.
Out of those patients who took Vioxx, the arthritis drug may have caused approximately 140,000 heart attacks resulting in an estimated 60,000 deaths, FDA investigator Graham.🥺🥺🥺
My brother was diagnosed with arthritis at age 6 he was given this medicine but was hiding the pills in the couch cushion. A young girl that was in his physical therapy class was also on this and she died from this medicine. God bless her and her family. My dad broke down and was on his knees crying asking my brother if he was taking the pills and to stop, that's when he pulled the couch cushion out on unzipped it and months of pills fell out. My parents were relieved but I will aways cry for that girls who's life was cut short. If you or your child dosnt feel right on medication don't force them to take it, let them have a say in what they take and educate yourself and family on all other choices on treatment.
This reminds me of the ford pinto story in the 1960s or something , where on collision it would combust because of the position the gas tank was in . It went to litigation and the same outcome unfolded the same way . It’s crazy .
Nah...I believe Ford knew the hazard, and built into their cost:benefit analysis that they WOULD be getting sued and based on the average payout normalized for the risk of occurrence, they concluded that the cost of replacing the parts to make it safe wasn't worth the benefit.
MEDICINE SHOULD NEVER BE POLITICIZED!!!!!!!!!!!!! AFTER I READ ALL GOOD THINGS ABOUT HYDROXYCLOROQUINE AND COVID.... THE SECOND!!!!!!! TRUMP MENTIONED IT IT WAS bad???????????????
There are no consequences because the same people that are charging some of these companies and provide legislation are actually investors in the same company. Why bite the hands that feed their greed? Sad but true. Especially in Canada and the US
Look up post finasteride syndrome. The drug basically chemically castrates some men who take it to combat hair loss by blocking an androgen called 5 alpha reductase (dht) there’s also older men who use it for enlarged prostate which the drug was originally intended for. It blocks neurosteriods in the brain as well. There’s even doctors that dismiss that the condition even exists but I was able to figure out all of the people who deny its existence have ties with Merck. There’s thousands of men suffering from muscle wasting, loss of libido and sexual function along with memory issues.
Reuters also has an article on the drug, and it shows Merck knew of the permanent side effects over 2 decades ago and skewed the data of the research they did.
Theres no such thing as “post finasteride syndrome” its just the typical side effects of taking exogenous male hormones (androgens) which are easily reversed with pct like clomiphene or tamoxifen (nolvadex) typically used by body builders/athletes coming off a steroid cycle. Look at this study showing tamoxifen alone was enough to reverse the side effects of finasteride usage. Bottom line is dont take any medicine unless you understand the mechanism of action and what its doing to your body. Not all medicine is “bad” or “good”. Get blood work, eat a non-inflammatory diet (varies depending on your body), and see specialists for special concerns (cardiologist for heart, gastro for digestion, dietician for diet etc). Dont just blindly trust your general practitioner for everything because their job is to refer you to an actual specialist. For example i got the vaccine because i have no known heart conditions, have healthy bloodwork, and don’t want to get sick at all while going to university or the gym even if ill survive. My health, my choice, and my fully understood risk assessment. Same reason i wouldnt have sex with someone who has chlamydia, meningitis, or hpv even if Ill survive and even though ive been vaccinated for hpv and men. Make your own responsible choices and pharma companies cant force you to take anything. pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/9426725/
My brother was one of those 40-60,000 deaths. Vioxx/Merck is responsible for my brother's fatal heart attack in April,2004. Apparently his physician was not aware of the cardiac risk? This interview rattled me to the core. So disturbing.
Sorry to hear that... Wait til the hindsight of the jab comes to fruition. I'm afraid reality is going to get really disturbing throughout this decade... 🙏🏻
Joe Rogan is honestly pretty heroic for having guests on willing to criticize the medical industrial complex. Most people in the media are busy calling all physicians and nurses heroes.
@@coveronly228 they aren't doing that. Plenty of people were neglected to death in hospitals and nursing homes because visitors were not allowed. This crap is really sick.
I was prescribed that crap after a bad train derailement/ accident. After reading the news reports, I immediately stopped using it (it was pulled from the market some time after that). When I questioned my orthopedic surgeon about it, he shrugged and told me that he "didn't classify me as being in a high risk group". My dad was put on Celebrex (similar to Vioxx), and developped a heart condition that they couldn't diagnose so they simply classified it as COPD; he got off the meds, changed his diet, and his heart function mostly returned to the shock and awe of his cardiologist. It took a few years, but all the docs wanted to do was give more meds to him . 😡 Still, not worth the risk. Celebrex was the other crap they put me on; lost 38 pounds in a month because it was killing my stomach and desire to eat. Stopped taking that also. Be wary folks, if you can't feel the pain, how do you know something has changed? I would rather some discomfort than the alternative.
I was prescribed Vioxx in 2002 or 2003 after an Achilles tendon surgery. I remember not liking the effect and not taking the pill more than once or twice. Lucky me!
Choice between myocarditis and dying alone in a hospital surrounded by people in head to toe plastic saying goodbye to your family on an iPad. Pick one bro!
How’s that “American Dream” working out ? If a working class guy loses control of his truck he gets 110 years in prison (only reduced because of the outcry not because of our justice system) but if a rich Ivy League brat and his frat boy friends run a drug company leading to the deaths of 40k people then all you get is a fine and a warning.
And folks wonder why some people are skeptical about vaccines, the FDA, the media, etc.
Anyone one who trusts any of them is quite naive.
There's a difference between skepticism and cynicism. Unfortunately, most people never exercise healthy skepticism until it's too late. People will accept things as true based on authority alone, and when that comes back to bite them, many of those people turn cynical, with a knee jerk reaction to reject any and all evidence to the contrary, accepting alternative unsubstantiated claims from another perceived authority figure. People need to accept responsibility for evaluating the evidence themselves and making decisions based on logical, reasonable, evidenced information. It's disturbing that you have to take what your doctor says with a grain of salt, or read a peer reviewed study (assuming it's even publicly available without a paywall in place) to determine the validity of said study by yourself, but that's the world we live in.
Its should be normal for everyone who’s iq is not limited to be skeptical about everything
@@hew195050 so why are you trusting the media outlet known as the JRE
We trust Alt media because it's not scripted or staged
I once knew a woman that went to a hospice facility to die on over a dozen different medications. They took her off all the medications thinking the end was near, Instead of dying she got well and strong enough to leave that facility and live several more independent good years before dying.
Happy for her. Retired in 2019 from 23 year career in hospice care and I can vouch for this situation. I used to say then that more people would get well if they could just get a good look over from a competent hospice staff for evaluations like you describe. Yes - we are Overmedication Nation. Most people have really been beat up by the medical establishment by the time they arrive at hospice. It can take awhile to gain their trust after so much abuse.
I can
House of God (fictional account of real experiences working in medicine) sort of details this when it comes to medicine. One of the doctors explains why his department has the least amount of deaths compared to the other departments and he confesses "I make it a policy to treat as few patients as possible. I have found doctors probably kill as many people as they save, so my official policy is do the least amount of medicine as I can."
@ADHDTV Grammar has fallen to the wayside in the 21st century.
That happened with my grandma she was on a bunch of pills, it was New Year's Eve she almost died my dad was checking on her he went to the doctor and took her off all pills and she lived a few years more
My grandmother was the most important person in my life, she raised me. She had been taking Vioxx for a yr or two, and had a stroke that debilitated her. She was told to stop taking it then, but I guess the damage was done at that point. She had another stroke shortly after getting out of the hospital and that one ultimately took her life. She didn't qualify for inclusion in the lawsuit because she had one or two unrelated health problems, non life-threatening. Can you guess how I feel about a health care system built to financially profit from the most vulnerable moments of our lives?
Plenty of ppl get strokes without taking vioxx
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My father took that shit too. He was in the lawsuit. The people responsible should rot in prison.
Today we're told that certain things are safe for public consumption and are pushed down our throats basically.
It's hard not to commit felonies when things go like that
Vioxx and how they marketed Oxycontin are prime examples of why you should never blindly trust companies when there is a profit motive.
Trust the science bra just take the jab and then thr next and then the next for the rest of your life!
So you took those drugs blindly rather than because it was medically recommended by a trust doctor?
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@@homewall744 OxyContin and Vioxin were drugs prescribed by doctors genius
There will always be a profit motive
I dated one of the Vioxx engineers daughters, he still got an award after the fact and it’s hanging up in his home office in Texas…. These people believe they’re in a class of their own.
Wow big phama no conscious
I love that Joe is having more than one controversial guest about the drug companies. They really don't want these conversations to happen.
He even mentioned how socialized healthcare is so much more effective and the US system is designed to sift money for the 1%
You’ll never see this on cable news because big pharma owns them and dictates what the news actors are aloud to report on.
@@venicebeachsportsnetwork6677 of course it is. But the sheep are so conditioned to believe otherwise.
@@venicebeachsportsnetwork6677 WE have socialized healtcare in canada. We are going in curfew again tomorrow. businesses are going bankrupt because we have to "save" the deffective healthcare system. It cost me around 30k$ each year in taxes to pay for that failing system.
Probably why that one Congressman pulled a Jussie and had his crazy person 'admit' he was 'radicalized by Joe and Tucker' lol.
My dad got blood clots in his feet from this, but recovered. A year later my doc wanted to prescribe for a kidney stone. I said I didn’t want it, but she insisted, put some samples in my hand, which I then threw in the garbage as I exited the facility! Big red flag that she wanted to give me even though I told her my dads story. Got a new doctor shortly thereafter!
Bullshit supposedly everybody on the comment section has a story about knowing better and they did the right thing😂
@@newleaf1534 there is a good amount of people like this. My family doesn’t take prescriptions unless absolutely necessary.
Listen to all of the people right now screaming 'Trust the science' with vaccines as if you are supposed to blindly trust every single doctor you come into contact with. Billions of doctors were telling us that Vioxx is completely safe and prescribing it.
It could just be that the dr was ignorant of how harmful they were, these experts are trained to trust the “ studies”, they’re also incapable of thinking critically which is why it’s even more important that patients do, this is just another consequence of a lousy university system.
@@guyinthechat9533 I think the vaccine is safe and trusted because so many countries and body’s have oversight of it. But in America distrust has lead to downfall, radicalism and social fracturing, honestly the officials need to get a grip and learn how to govern a developed nation before the consequences catch up with them.
I was prescribed Vioxx for back pain when it first hit the market around '99 or 2000. An old, wise friend pulled me to the side and in a very stern and worried tone told me to stop taking the medication because "people will be dropping like flies very soon" I never questioned his advice and discarded the medication immediately even after my doctor assured me it was safe for use. Fast forward a few years later and Vioxx was taken off the market because you guessed it people were dropping like flies from heart attacks. Thank you Vicenzo for serving this country and for all the knowledge you shared with me.
Shoutout Vicenzo, what a lad
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You’re welcome. It was my pleasure.
Vicenzo worked for the company that made Vioxx. He knew EXACTLY what was going on. How else would he know? Let us all praise Vicenzo, the man who worked for Vioxx who whispered to his friend that he shouldn't take Vioxx because he could totally die man. PRAISE VICENZO!
@@007Hutchings Or, you're jumping to conclusions because you don't have all the data. You're the worst kind of person.
I am a victim of a motor vehicle accident knocked over 1/10 of a mile from the point of impact. Dr prescribed Vioxx and it made me sick, bad stomach ache, I stopped use. A friend from water therapy had a terrible reaction and it hurt her stomach so bad she was bent over with stomach cramps and in pain, crying during therapy and had to leave. I told her to quit taking it, she said she was following doctors orders. When you are disabled and drawing worker’s compensation, a lot of doctors force you to take medication and say if you don’t take your meds they will not fill out your Workers Compensation medical forms knowing you will lose your disability payments. Pharma pays docs for prescribing their meds, it is a big racket with crooks in a lot of the medical field, using patients as pawns.
Motrin will. do that too, so will naproxen or any other nsaid if you don't eat before you take it.
Oh yeah! I didn’t even think of that. They police whether you take the meds and are unwilling to go to alternatives if you’re uncomfortable with the possible side effects when you’re going through wcb or even private disability claims.
I was working at a pharma software company when myself and a former nurse figured out how the Vioxx crime was perpetrated. We raised the issue and tried to make sure the new software we were building for another pharma giant to prevent this from ever happening there. They balked. They fought back. Ultimately they ended our contract. They wanted to keep the ability to fudge the data in ways that the FDA did not know about.
The FDA is prob crooked too. Anything with tons of funding and profit is most likely dirty.
The FDA most likely knew about it and were complicit , their track record is horrible.
ibuprofen should be pulled from market if vioxx is but people would go mad
@@abelucious I don't think they did. A conspiracy at that level of collusion would have been impossible to keep under wraps as long as it was. What my coworker and I discovered could have been done by one or two people with database access to the diagnostic thesaurus and some modelling software, plus somebody higher up giving the orders. What I learned in my five years in the pharma industry is that there are a lot of people both in private companies and in government who really do care about patients ... and a few assholes on top whose incentives are only about stock prices no matter who gets hurt.
@@DG-xj7pm "Funding and profit" does not describe the FDA. The FDA doesn't make a profit. They make rules. They're about power. Some of the rules are actually good ones, but they're written so that loopholes can be exploited -- same as any other government agency. There's nothing in the world wrong with making a profit ... unless you're doing so by wresting political power away from where it belongs, and THAT is what is wrong with the FDA and its incestuous relationship with industry.
This is so depressing that drug companies are able to get away with things like this.
Don't be depressed be angry.
Drive anywhere deep in West Virginia or Kentucky and see how federal government took their jobs and then big Pharma swooped in and took their livelihood... but the self righteous people say things like "oh well they're trumpers who care" or "nobody cared about black people during the crack epidemic".... yet the crack epidemic ended.
Greed
Once we let corps contribute to election campaigns.......... were were f'd. Lobbyists control Washington and give big pharma free roam
It's also depressing that elected public servant positions that pays ~200k a year are filled with multi-millionaires. I wonder if the two are connected?
When my dad died from complications from diabetes (possible Agent Orange exposure in Vietnam) we emptied 2 cabinet shelves stocked with prescribed medications. It was a staggering amount of pills and I know he never asked doctors questions. They prescribed it, he took it. RIP dad.
My dad is on this same path.
Same. My dad died from agent orange in the vietnam war. Only 48. Our govt is disgusting
My uncle used to buy whatever was prescribed HALF the time (very cheap because it's government subsidised almost entirely), but then because he done everything his own way, he wouldn't take much. There was still a bag full of blister packs after I cleaned the place out. Literally one box of painkillers I kept and I think antihistamines but the rest were for specific problems.
Merck’s lead attorney throughout the entire litigation process was Kenneth Frazier. After he successfully beat back the many lawsuits in which Merck’s liability was initially estimated to be between $20-50 billion, he was eventually rewarded for his efforts by being named CEO, a job he held for over a decade. His cumulative salary + stock payments were well over $100 million during his tenure as CEO….
He got ripped off too then.
A small price if you consider what a person would get as punishment if they were actually accountable for mass murder
MEDICINE SHOULD NEVER BE POLITICIZED!!!!!!!!!!!!! AFTER I READ ALL GOOD THINGS ABOUT HYDROXYCLOROQUINE AND COVID.... THE SECOND!!!!!!! TRUMP MENTIONED IT IT WAS bad???????????????
He got his good things in this life, then. Can't say I'm jealous; who the hell needs $100 million to "feel like a man"?
@@dawnclabaugh3598 I don't think he needed 100 million to feel like a man, he needed 100 million in order to be a monster.
It's a good thing these companies would never do something like that for an experimental vaccine. That would be very troubling.
Good SARCASTIC comment.
@@HeyWatchMeGo Thats the joke. Stfu and calm down
@Dim and yet, there are 2 safe drugs that have been in use for so long that their patents have run out. In one case the drug has been given to millions of people as both a prophylactic and as a treatment for over 4 decades. No significant side effects and safer than paracetamol.
These drugs were shown to be efficacious against covid in several trials. In one drug there have been over 50 trials showing it is efficacious. Two trials seeming to show it us not. In a meta analysis of those trials, Dr Tess Lawrie, a top scientist in the UK and her team found that the trials were all, except fir the Colombian trial and one other, well conducted .
Yet all Western countries rejected these very cheap and effective drugs, going so far as to lie and say that
there has been no scientific proof of their safety in treating covid.
In fact, there has been more trials and proof of safety than there has been of the vaccines and the new drugs that have been brought out by Pfizer and Merck.
The question has to be asked as to WHY this is so.
Follow the money!
@Dim I know, right? What a conspiracy!
@Dim either that or big pharma had a change of heart over night. They actually want to help ppl. I'm sure the 20 billion more it made than any other drug last year and the projected 58 billion more they'll make of of mandates. ( not including boosters). Will be donated to a good cause. I also now hear they won't mark up insulin and other life sustaining drugs up by over 1000 percent because they no longer care about the money and just want to help
Thank you Joe and John very informative. As a cancer survivor and fighter continuous leave for the last 10 years I truly appreciate you continuing to bring light to the surface of the pharmaceutical companies.
The medicine that killed my grandmother. Sued but she was old and an autopsy wasn't done. Ended up getting nothing from the settlement.
I’m so sorry. I feel for you. My grandma died of a combination of ibuprofen and a blood thinner called xarelto. She got stomach ulcers and bled from the inside out essentially. If they used warfarin a IV of vitamin k would’ve saved her. She didn’t want to take her Vicodin after her surgery and thought that Advil was safer. We sued as well. Not a dime. That’s also what started MY opiate addiction when I found a bottle of oxycodone tens and another full bottle of vicodin in her medicine cabinet. I miss her everyday.
Same story with my grandfather
vioxx killed my older brother at 36. my sister in law didnt get any of the settlement cause his dr.was giving him samples for free.
@@beateater43 Medicine free samples? wtf
A FLAMETHROWER SHOULD BE TAKEN TO "BIG PHARMA"...THE FUCKERS! ruclips.net/video/qMx-Lv_eZ3s/видео.html
I love how this man explains things and his demeanor is so chill . Deff worth going to Spotify to watch whole episode.
No.
nope
Our pharmaceutical industry is rotten to the core and the fact people are blindly following their advice regarding covid is truly pathetic
Idiots. And they have the nerve to act righteous
Pharmaceutical industry? The system. As long as lobbying is legal, this problem will not be solved
Fear mongering to control the masses
I agree to an extent, but blindly going against advice is also just as bad. As with anything regarding life, death and health, enormous amounts of independent research should be conducted.
@@JoeyNTasha 4 boosters and counting, I think idiots is right
After being prescribed statins for cholesterol and other dangerous drugs for gout, I began doing my own research to find out how I could live without an MD and or Big Pharma. That was over 10 years ago. I'm now 72, doing very well with good blood pressure readings, ideal weight and no reason for alarm or medical treatment. Eating habits have changed drastically. Now on a Highfat/lowcarb diet and loving it. My doctor still asks about me and tells my wife that I should go in for a checkup. No Thanks Doc...
I mean there's nothing wrong with a checkup to find out your levels. Just refuse anything that he wants to prescribe you if it bothers you.
The statin you took years ago is still providing you benefit. Ideal years to take statin is 40-65 for quality and quantity of life balance
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Statins are poison to the human body!
And most people think your insane when you tell them their food is poison
@@carbon1631 Oh really, is a statin defeciency the problem? Doctors are a meme, they don't know anything. Fix the problem, doctors only treat symptoms and their goal is profit, not to help people.
I was on Vioxx for several years, I didn't have any issues while on the drug but several years later I had a Heart attack....at age 26. I always wonder how big a factor that played.
Now you know.
Are you 'Wondering"? People are funny.
You lose when big pharmas made tons of money. Sorry my man!
Glad your okay!! Pharmaceutical companies are real life supervillains
I was in a bad substance induced car accident in October of 2020 I was diagnosed with heart failure and only 20% of my left ventricle was working, it’s now at 55%. I still feel like I’m over weight or there is twice as much gravity, I’m 26 too. How do you feel??
Again a great podcast. Thank you Mr Rogan for bringing so many great experts and persons to share their passion and work...
I broke my leg and was prescribed Norco. After 10 long years of addiction I'm finally clean and sober. Haven't taken an opiate in over 2 years. It was the hardest battle I ever had to endure. Fuck painkillers!
Hate to burst your bubble man but some people need opioid painkillers to function because they have severe daily pain. Blaming doctors for your opioid addiction isn’t helping people who NEED these medications. Don’t blame your doctor because you enjoyed catching a buzz...a lot of addiction is mental and if there was no mental want for a buzz a taper schedule is more than easy to follow.
@@cjaydustie1867 It's a two way street dude, sometimes a doctor knowns there's going to be sever temporary pain and still prescribes opiates, leading to an addiction. The road to hell is often paved with good intentions
Congrats on your sobriety
I’ve been there too. I was in a horrible chemical explosion and badly burned. The Norco and other pain meds destroyed my life. It became a ten year battle for me. I would not wish this on my worst enemy.
I have not had any type of pain medication in close to ten years. I was suicidal and came close to taking my life multiple times. It felt like a battle I could not win. Big P is run by a group of truly evil people. The suffering they cause to make a profit. It’s disgusting.
@@cjaydustie1867 no one NEEDS these meds long term. Short term yes they may be useful but There are plenty of natural alternatives that are sustainable. I survived over fifty surgeries due to explosion and 2nd and 3rd degree burns. The worst thing that happened to me in all that was being prescribed opiates long term and I did not enjoy any kind of buzz. Just because you might don’t put that shit off on everyone else.
Terrifying, my father is elderly and trusts his doctor completely, would never question a prescription or do his own research
I hear ya. My mom is 82, does well, but same thing. When I was young(80s-early 90's) living at home she had a huge medicine cabinet full. She would save everything. Here's the deal/thought process I see: In her case, as with maybe a substantial amount of older people...They pay a shitload for healthcare/insurance/etc...and I feel my mom wants the most of her dollar and will take what she can because in her mind, she is getting her money's worth. Instead of diet changes/etc.
Your parents are elderly because the medicine they were given has helped them. Not all medicine is bad.
MEDICINE SHOULD NEVER BE POLITICIZED!!!!!!!!!!!!! AFTER I READ ALL GOOD THINGS ABOUT HYDROXYCLOROQUINE AND COVID.... THE SECOND!!!!!!! TRUMP MENTIONED IT IT WAS bad???????????????
@@albertotorres7746 my wife’s side of the family is full blooded Navajo. All the men lived well into their 80’s and the women early 90’s. None of them had even been to a modern hospital, taken any of this junk being thrown at us today. Hell they didn’t even have electricity until 2016, pumped their water from a well. Lived healthy lives to the end.
@@calvinthestormfreak you know it’s made by pfizer right?
I watched my father for the last 20 years of his life go thru the medicine circus. He used to have an overnight bag for his medicine. He trusted his doctors implicitly, until the end of his life where after getting diagnosed with cancer and they basically wrote him off. It was sad, but it motivated me to start taking better care of myself.
I'm sorry for what you, your family, and your father went through. I've also witnessed loved ones trust their doctor whole-heartedly to be cast out after their cancer diagnosis.
ya most docs are drug dealers. Instead of finding the root they just push pills to mask the problem til finally the body gives up. I always tried to eat good but more so now that I'm in my 40s.
So sorry to hear you went through this 😢
Thanks everyone. The most frustrating thing was not only did he get medicated for his illnesses, he then had to take medicines to counteract the side effects of the medicine. I always thought it was ridiculous.
went through the same thing with my mom this year really lost faith in the healthcare system so motivated by greed its not even funny
It isn't crazy - it's criminal.
It's also not unheard of, it's the norm.
When in doubt, follow the money (ie Fauci in the case of C^19)
Well put
Keep going after them Joe! We are here to support you all the way!!
This is the exact reason you don't take medicine when it first comes out. No doctor should recommend brand new medicine till it has been properly studied by multiple parties for both long and short term effects
I say don't take it unless you can get it in generic form. Patented drugs are very sketchy.
The same reason why you shouldn’t take a vaccine when it first comes out
I had heart attack/ triple bypass from eating shit and smoking 4 years ago, doctors gave me the same protocol of med's they give everybody. I started doing research, completely changed my lifestyle eating lifting weights treadmill all so i didn't have to take their poison. Today at 58 have a build like Joe and doctor's won't see me because i don't take med's. I FEEL GREAT !AND NO JAB TO BOOT!
the same with me. God bless
My Aunt retired in her first year her Doctor gave her this stuff in about two weeks she was in a coma and her organs began shutting down and she died….. unbelievable these Pharmaceutical Companies cannot be held accountable
Imagine if the same companies still existed and were major suppliers during this pandemic
Don’t have to imagine. Phizer, moderna, Johnson and Johnson. All the same kinda of people.
The same company (Merck) recently came out with a Covid pill
That was sarcasm right? You think the pharma companies give a shit about you or are somehow better today? You really need to turn your TV off if you do because you're severely brainwashed.
Why would you possibly believe things have changed?
I pressed like very hard, trying to make it laugh and like..... you tube isnlimited.... like a lot
I remember being prescribed vioxx after I pulled my back while working at Walmart and loading a treadmill into a vehicle. I took a couple of the pills and stopped because it didn't seem to help at all. I focused on stretching each morning before getting out of bed. My back improved and I went on with life. I'm glad I didn't take all that was prescribed to me.
You sound like a poor medical customer.
@@AnkurSethi108 because he improved his back with PT and not pills?
@@l0lan00b3 yes....yes, that's exactly what he means.....
Your lucky that worked, the trouble arises for people when those alternatives do not work, in Australia our drs always prescribe drugs last, it’s rarely prescribed first, unless there’s reason that negate the alternative treatments to drugs. That’s why the “ big pharma” narrative really only makes sense in countries like America, although I think even in the context of America most of the “ big pharma” narratives are jejune cliches.
@@semperfi5857 I just want to know why that makes him poor? I mean he worked at Walmart but shit even that pays decently depending on your area. He already got the drugs but chose not to use them? Wtf am I missing lol
My grandma was on meds for Alzheimer's for ten years. When they finally decided to take her off she started remembering names and faces. She had a whole new quality of life post medication..
Not unusual, they'll get better before immediately taking a turn for the worse being off of the medication. I can't tell you how many times I've heard that from people who wanted to sue a practice. Yes there are individuals who have gotten better having been taken off of meds but the reason as to why isn't so black and white.
@@humane143imperfection6 correlation does not equal causation
@@magesticmushroomgarden6914 Exactly..
@@humane143imperfection6 Well, OP says her life was better post medication. So no turn for the worse in this case scenario. Like you said, the world isn't black and white, so going off medication isn't always a recipe for distaster.
I often think about my grandparents they both take soo many different meds.. then complain of various problems and they won’t believe it could possibly be side effects.. all they can do is tell the doctor who then prescribed more meds for the side effects, or send them to a specialist that prescribe more
And that's how mire money is pumped from ur grandparents to big pharma. It's a cycle they know about and I don't doubt they try to further that cycle
It's a slippery slope. Take one med then another for the side effect of the first and so on down down down...
My grandmother was the same way. Then she got Alzheimer’s and lost her memory but came off of all 13 drugs she was taking every day. The last 12 years of her life were drug free and she was healthy physically.
I am approaching 60 and 7 yrs ago I realized the pharma scam. I refused all scripts and stopped taking all meds. I have been pharma free and it's wonderful! I do take over counter ie: ibuprofen, tylenol, etc.
yes they should stop taking meds and let them rest in piece
"There's something so wrong here going on, that it was beyond my comprehension" - Me for the last 2 years...
@@spiritseeker2831 Bullseye!
@@spiritseeker2831 We are living in opposite land.
Me too.
you are 110% perfect
@@spiritseeker2831 spot on
I'm glad he explained the part about the stock prices going up after fines announced. I thought I was crazy for noticing
I was prescribed vioxx when I was in my early 20s for tennis elbow. I remember my chest started quivering after two days and I felt dizzy in spells throughout the day. Went to the doctor, they ran some tests and just said I was probably sleep deprived. It was years later before I found out what poison that stuff really was. I feel lucky there were no long-term side effects
Hope u r alright bro
I was prescribed vioxx after having 3 back surgeries. I've had high blood pressure ever since. Constant migraine.
I had a seizure from Vioxx. It was prescribed to me for a back injury. I first took half the dose prescribed to see how it would effect me. About 30 minutes later I was on the floor having a seizure. The one and only seizure I’ve ever had in my life. It was like my body knew it was bad shit and rejected it immediately.
Now imagine what’s going on today
Every time this happens, the company should forfeit all the sales from the drug + 50%. So if they sell 12 billion worth of the drug, they end up paying 18 billion in damages. I bet this stops really quick.
All you have to do is take away a corporation's ability to identify as an entity and the people within it can be prosecuted, but that won't happen because the criminals who benefit influence and write the laws, giving them a real fee would work too, but neither will ever happen until people get a grip on reality or even care to
Amen!
It's happening just as I said it would...the healing phase of being "scared to death" is pneumonia, aka "flu". So as people are released from the solitary confinement of their homes (because of media and government lies based on the fraudulent Germ Theory), and people begin to get happy and feel less stressed, the result will be the healing phase....of pneumonia, flu, colds, general sickness. You can also see the light sensitivity, appendicitis in some, numerous tooth problems and gum swelling, laryngitis, etc. The fear campaign has caused ALL the illnesses, not a Boogey Virus.
Every disease is based on the Germ Theory, which was the theory of ONE man over 100 years ago. It was never proven to be 100% valid, and has not even been QUESTIONED again. Why? In order for a theory to be valid, it must be reproduceable in each and every person 100% of the time. Every single person exposed to a "virus" MUST get sick from it 100% of the time, over and over again. It's how you PROVE a theory is valid. This was never done. Scientists used to think witches and witchcraft were valid!! Educated people?? hahaha!! If you cannot "catch" cancer, arthritis or diabetes from another person, then you cannot "catch" a cold or flu. There is no such thing that only SOME diseases are communicable, but not all. It's either all or none of them...they are all based on the same Germ Theory. If you can't "catch" someone's lung cancer, you can't "catch" their colds or flu. Upsetting and distressing events in a person's life is what causes ALL cancer and cancer-equivalent disease, cold, flu, pneumonia, bronchitis, etc. A massive fear campaign will CAUSE people to be "worried sick", but sickness doesn't happen until people resolve their fears. Why do you think kids get sick in October? Because their fear of going back to school and being upset about it finally dissolves, and they get back into their routines. What the media and government is doing to people is criminal.
So of course, when everyone is allowed to escape the hostage situation the governments have put their people into, and they start relaxing about the "scary virus" that's not in any way transmissible, they will begin their healing phase (get sick), and the corrupt governments will call it a different “scary” word, a different Boogey Man coming to get you.....repeat the same mistakes that never worked from the beginning, re-institute the same restrictions that only made people more traumatized, and more panic will ensue as well as martial law, a removal of all your rights, and you let it happen. The longer people allow this government to hold them hostage in their homes, the more severe the "sickness" will be. Western Medicine is pure fraud, and people's lives are destroyed because of it. Welcome to the United States of China.
I always say the same thing about stock market manipulation. Hedge funds will break the law and profit billions but be fined a few million.
This is exactly the penalty regime I proposed to my partner a few weeks ago! Takes all incentive away then. Should be the minimum consequence and then they deal with personal litigation after that.
I took this for a knee reconstruction (prior and after) at age 26. Around year 2000. It messed up my stomach. Made me have frightening dreams. My dreams kept telling me “it’s the Vioxx”. I finally dreamed something so scary I told myself I’d never touch that medicine again! I’m not in to religion, paranormal or conspiracies. But WOW
Don’t through the baby out with the annoying bath water. God loves you and spiritual something happened in your story.
I had a back injury around 2002. The military doctor gave me a bottle of vioxx. I was not into meds and asked how he knows its safe. He said something about it not being harsh on the stomach. In order to not offend him, I took the bottle but I through it in the first garbage can I saw. A couple of years later I saw the recall on the news. That is why I won't get the you know what.
….but don’t you realise that when you use your own rational judgement to protect your own body then you are an anti vaxxer?
@@3chords490 in this case an anti voxxer
@@tsmith3286 What’s that? You realise I was being ironic?
@@3chords490 yes I was making a joke. Vaxxer and voxxer. Sorry if it didn’t come out that way
Same here.
When Merck began marketing their HPV vaccin, the sales reps used to say, HPV=have to pay for Vioxx.
Thinking that these people have your health in mind is ludicrous.
Back in the early 2000's, I was referred to an M.D. who people claimed was into combining allopathic with alternative medicine. On the 2nd visit he wanted to prescribe vioxx. I asked him what the side effects were. He looked me in the eye and said, 'Oh, you don't have to worry about those." I walked out of his office & never went back.
Imagine this group of people is still working and approving medication after they were responsible for killing 40- 50k people their names should be out in public to be exposed
They should be locked in a cage for life. How many murderers that killed 1 are doing life?....
This is a great podcast; I have been working on a book about this topic for a couple years, and this guy nailed a lot of points.
(EDIT: I watched the 2 hour version and it is dang good, highly recommended!)
We need more people like this talking about the issues. Unfortunately censorship has made that difficult
I just finished Bad Pharma by Ben Goldacre, so this was right up my alley
My grandmother had a stroke due to Vioxx. She was part of that class action lawsuit.
My mom was on antidepressants for about a decade and died of an acute subarachnoid hemorrhage at 42.
No pharmaceuticals for me thanks.
With all this in mind, are people who are distrusting of pharmaceutical companies and against vaccine mandates really all that crazy?
@Normie meme Pfizer and Moderna are gene editing “treatments”
when you consider the number of Senior deaths, primarily in nursing homes where it was blanket prescribed to tens if not hundreds of thousands, from FDA approval, to withdraw, the number of casualties expands exponentially to hundreds of thousands of deaths, rather than 70,000.
Just to add to the insanity of this story; I worked with an older woman who had not fared well using the other medications and when Vioxx came into her life changed her ability to move around with diminished pain. As long as she was on Vioxx she was active. When Vioxx was removed she was required to go back on her previous meds and her life diminished. The reality is that medical research into pharmaceuticals is a crap shoot. What may offer some form of assistance to some also risks harming others. Just listen to any ad these days and the possible side effects listed at the end of the ad are horrific for every drug.
I was prescribed vioxx in 2003 for a herniated disc. It made me feel weird so I soon stopped taking it. Funny thing was, at my doctor's office there were vioxx labeled pens, notepads, post it holders etc. She said it was a great new effective wonderdrug. Amazing that my doc decided to prescribe it! Much like these supposed covid vaccines, I was skeptical of it and ,my doctors motives, which in that case probably saved my life. And now the thought of questioning these vaccines, of thinking of alternatives even, is met with condemnation, discrimination, and outright anger by many people. Big Pharma has making money as its primary goal, and if it actually works that's a bonus. Thanks Joe for helping to bring these things to light!
Yea, pharma is essentially the sponser of the medical industry.
Fall in line and comply. One new shot every three months. We will make billions... Sincerely the drug companies.
I don't blame the doctors I blame pharmaceutical companies.
The thing that worries me is that you can entirely avoid using unhealthy pharmaceuticals and processed foods, but they dump all the byproduct in our drinking water regardless.
If your drinking city water your are drinking much worse than byproducts. On top of your neighbors recycled piss. Move out of the city and drink real water from the ground
@@littlelarry2912 dont forget when they enbalm people that goes right in the drain
Our food is 100 times worse than anything they could do to the water. Our food is biggest reason why majority of our country is depressed and overweight
@Nixie Tubes exactly. I look at cities as factory/prisons, with enough silly entertainments to keep the weak willed from seeing it. I live in the forest, my well is 12 feet deep and I have a huge garden. I've been saying for years, and Elon musk said the same in a recent interview: the world is far, far from overpopulated. It is silly to think such a thing. We just live wrong. Get out of cities, there is plenty of space out there.
get a Berkey water system. It takes out EVERYTHING! Well worth the cost. Don't drink bottled water. The plastic outgasses into the water no matter what they tell ya.
"and what was the punishment for Merc?" I laughed so hard and instantly got sad lol
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It's happening just as I said it would...the healing phase of being "scared to death" is pneumonia, aka "flu". So as people are released from the solitary confinement of their homes (because of media and government lies based on the fraudulent Germ Theory), and people begin to get happy and feel less stressed, the result will be the healing phase....of pneumonia, flu, colds, general sickness. You can also see the light sensitivity, appendicitis in some, numerous tooth problems and gum swelling, laryngitis, etc. The fear campaign has caused ALL the illnesses, not a Boogey Virus.
Every disease is based on the Germ Theory, which was the theory of ONE man over 100 years ago. It was never proven to be 100% valid, and has not even been QUESTIONED again. Why? In order for a theory to be valid, it must be reproduceable in each and every person 100% of the time. Every single person exposed to a "virus" MUST get sick from it 100% of the time, over and over again. It's how you PROVE a theory is valid. This was never done. Scientists used to think witches and witchcraft were valid!! Educated people?? hahaha!! If you cannot "catch" cancer, arthritis or diabetes from another person, then you cannot "catch" a cold or flu. There is no such thing that only SOME diseases are communicable, but not all. It's either all or none of them...they are all based on the same Germ Theory. If you can't "catch" someone's lung cancer, you can't "catch" their colds or flu. Upsetting and distressing events in a person's life is what causes ALL cancer and cancer-equivalent disease, cold, flu, pneumonia, bronchitis, etc. A massive fear campaign will CAUSE people to be "worried sick", but sickness doesn't happen until people resolve their fears. Why do you think kids get sick in October? Because their fear of going back to school and being upset about it finally dissolves, and they get back into their routines. What the media and government is doing to people is criminal.
So of course, when everyone is allowed to escape the hostage situation the governments have put their people into, and they start relaxing about the "scary virus" that's not in any way transmissible, they will begin their healing phase (get sick), and the corrupt governments will call it a different “scary” word, a different Boogey Man coming to get you.....repeat the same mistakes that never worked from the beginning, re-institute the same restrictions that only made people more traumatized, and more panic will ensue as well as martial law, a removal of all your rights, and you let it happen. The longer people allow this government to hold them hostage in their homes, the more severe the "sickness" will be. Western Medicine is pure fraud, and people's lives are destroyed because of it. Welcome to the United States of China.
@@questioneverything7582 I hate to break this to you, but bacteria and virus are real. So is cancer. Infection can be contagious, but cancer is not. You are incorrect, and you should probably stop thinking in terms of black and white, and instead realize that our existence is chock-full of GRAY AREAS
@@questioneverything7582 P.S: you are quite clearly insane, and I hope you live very very far away from me and my family
I made it 69 likes
My partner's mom had dementia and, at one point, was taking a host of prescribed meds. Each caused side effects, for which other meds were prescribed, and yet the mother still suffered high blood pressure etc. After some time, one of her daughters whittled down the med list dramatically and the mother's health (other than the dementia) improved greatly.
Joe has a tiger by the tail with these drug discussions...
Yeah...I really appreciate the bravery
@@69birdboy Seeing the effects on his friends within MMA probably motivates him
I‘m not an american but Joe seems unf*ckable to me, isn‘t he? Like CNN an all this Mainstream Media can say what they wan‘t but Joe is untouchable. Like with the recent horse dewormer bullshit (what is still told in Germany btw 😂 There are even advertisment signs on the street making fun of people using „horsedwormer“ instead of „trusting“ in Science. It‘s a Shame, but we Germans are Choking deeply on the Vaccine Dick)
Honestly I believe he should run for president, he may call himself a moron but he sure knows right from wrong and I believe he would get a lot of trustworthy people in his cabinet
why wasn't joe's immune system good enough to ward off covid?
I love that Joe is following this rabbit hole, cant wait to see Robert Malone, and I would be the question, when do we see Mr Keennedy on the channel as well. Huge congrats Joe!
He needs to stop fucking around and bring kennedy on. I think its close. Gonna be one of his greatest episodes.
@@entropyincrease864 which Kenedy ?
@@entropyincrease864 Kennedy has a speech impediment
@@mendoblendo321 Robert
@@jessie9653 are you talking about JFK brother that was shot and killed? Or the Kennedy that's on office currently with the southern accent?
I'm having a flashback to Harrison Ford in The Fugitive when he confronts that doctor guy while he's giving a speech about "Provasic"
Exactly....
I appreciate all these doctor and scientist guests you've been having lately talking about medicine, treatments, drug, and the pharma companies...VERY interesting for me!
This should of been a major public announcement broadcast. It is absolutely horrifying what 'they' are doing and forcing onto/into us!
You think this is bad. The information he's not allowed to talk about because of his nondisclosure agreement I'm sure is much worse
Vioxx gave me a heart condition. I was prescribed due to messing my back up getting my black belt. I took it for a week and could barely wake up in the morning. I stopped it completely and dealt with the pain. Eventually I found yoga and self healed.
I tried vioxx when I was in my twenties and after 2 days I started getting severe irregular heartbeats and stopped immediately. The next week I heard about all the vioxx deaths.
Worse part is Merck knew about the deaths and heart attacks for two years.
8 billion in sales. 4.8 billion in class action lawsuits. Still made a 3.2 billion in profit.
For pharma this is just the price of doing business.
I was prescribed this when I was a young teen. It is still the only thing that ever really helped my back. To me it was a miracle drug. I know someone who died from it.
That's the paradox of drugs. Fentanyl is a killer to most, unless you need to have a heart surgery, then its a facilitator that helps save your life.
I took it too in my mid 20's ~ 4-5 days/mo for almost 2 yrs 'til it was pulled. I remember being upset when my Dr. told me bc it was only thing that helped me (endometriosis). I called it a wonder drug & I have family history of blood clot issues! Smh!! Thank goodness I/we survived...can't help but feel horrible for the many who didn't.😞 Pharma has no shame - disgusting!🤬
Interesting because I have the same experience. Was a young teen and this worked better than other more well known pain killers with less side effects. Everyone has different chemistry so maybe what was effective for us was very bad for other people. That said I never used pain killers as an adult and realize that a little pain isn't something to medicate for.
I was prescribed this drug as a teenager as well. As a dancer, I was either arthritic or injured at the time, but I was always inflamed. I do have issues… it never occurred to me my stomach issues were from that. 🤔
The drug although banned in America got dumped on the Australian market for months before being withdrawn - an old friend twisted with arthritis swore how good it was stopping pain but had to eventually submit to my advice it was no good previously at my mother's short fatal stay in hospital the first thing they did was stop her viox which the local GP had prescribed.
It's the US Healthcare system in which the doctors get bonuses from pharmaceutical companies to push their drugs. Greed doesn't work with healthcare and can also hinder its advancement too
11.6 million subscribers to this RUclips, Joe has a reach is massive, and I think those who want to expose what is wrong with the world will seek him out. I hope Joe stays safe.
Back in 2002. I had a very bad reaction to vioxx. I had been diagnosed with transverse myelitis and the dr’s said I couldn’t have got it from vioxx because vioxx was an anti-inflammatory so it couldn’t have inflamed my cervical. But what I remember the most when I was at the glenrose hospital. For spinal injury I had a room mate and his name was Chris and what I remember he had a double stroke as a 24 yr old. To this day I wondered why he had such a bad stroke. And he had to leave to Vancouver for treatment because my dr said he had another stroke coming. And is beyond his capabilities. But he must of took. Vioxx.
If you think the Vioxx scandal was bad, it pales in comparison to the current injections that shall not be named, which are likely the most injurious products in the history of medicine.
Terribly interesting times ahead. Good luck to you and yours.
Lmao okay
@@gsesquire3441 I realize the claim I made was bold but I’m willing to discuss why I made it...only if you’re actually open to discussing it honestly, though.
@@JarrodDSchneider And how profitable for the industry...since this class of products has zero product liability.
Don’t be afraid to say it. It’s only a matter of time before Moderna and Pfizer go through the same events. I’d like to throw J&J in there but unfortunately I think they’re too big to be affected.
I was prescribed viox after fracturing my hip surfing when I was 19 (Australia). I took it for a year. I now find it very hard to trust the medical system.
Merck had a hit list of doctors they set to discredit for complaining about the drug. So they knew the whole time & tried to silence any criticism.
I'm surprised no one is mentioning Brandy Vaughan.
Sounds pretty similar to events happening today as well...
This guy's voice is like honey covered butter
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This was the best podcast on Rogan that I’ve heard in a long time.
I love you Joe. I love that you continue to relentlessly expose fraud and corruption, on a monumental scale. But I won't lie, I'm starting to fear for your life.
Why is that? It doesn't matter how many people listen to a poorly dressed meathead, because they realize that anyone who would listen to him doesn't matter in the first place. He has nothing to fear, until he commands actual respect. Until that time he has nothing to fear.
@@Valkonnen and yet here you are, troll. You're dismissed.
Wrong attitude
yeah this is true. He is getting into some dangerous battleground and has to be careful.
@@mikewalters1877 Dr. Robert Malone is next up. Global news has already started smearing Rogan, in preparation
This interview makes me nervous for Joe and his guest. So thankful they’re both brave enough to shine a light on this issue on such a large platform!
This guy barely even scratched the surface
He will be targeted just like Rogan's recent guest Dr Robert Malone was banned from socials.
@Monolith _X that's not the point. The point is ppl are lazy and dont look at anything. But if they continue talking about it on podcasts like this it will make them censor.
That fact that this man has a honest conversation and truth is explained ... this is what a reporter should be ,joe rogan is setting standards and putting people to shame . All while smoking weed
Wonder when the Dr. Robert Malone interview will air.
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Never only on Spotify
Everyone calling Joe a sell out couldn't have been more wrong lol
This is why he left you tube because he knew censorship was coming
So does this mean I should get my 17th Booster or not?
if you want the vid, then get it
Wait till you get the bill
Of all the things, the biggest cultural shock I faced when I went to America for the first time, was the drug ads. If you’re well travelled, you’d know that the amount of ads and the way that the ads are done by drug companies in America is absolutely shocking. Forget about military spending, gun control, etc - banning drug advertising and regulating drug companies should be agenda no 1 for all Americans.
Remember to stay safe and be responsible by trusting science and taking their drugs
KEK
Be careful of getting addicted, not using pharmaceuticals
Maybe you should just become scientifically literate?
Right
Science is not a faith based belief system. There is no requirement or expectation to accept something as true without evidence. How were they able to call out Vioxx? Peer reviewed science, that's how.
We can't be critical thinkers when it suits us and then follow blindly so as to stay within our silos and identity (political leanings). We need to have nuanced conversation and keep talking. Big pharma has a long and dubious History of less than ethical behavior. Thank you for speaking out and for facilitating this conversation folks!
Your comment deserves more than bot replies. I agree 100%.
This was an excellent episode. He exposed a lot without saying anything too overboard
The gall of these men decide to call themselves doctors or experts and they let this occur, no one has the right to be the regulatory official when we know so little and are often wrong.
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why not? the head of the WHO isn’t even a docktoor
And to think so many of our drs are invested in these same stocks as they write your prescriptions knowing they get kickbacks too. Look into the sunshine act, it shows drs being paid by pharma companies how much and by who and when
I was given Vioxx ,and after taking it for 3 years ,I began keeling over in agony. I had a scope and I had severe bleeding and blocked bile ducts. I still wonder if that’s what’s caused my stomach pain after that . I did have extreme chest pain though , but being young I blew it off .
Dr Robert Malone, inventor of the mRNA treatments, is on the podcast next. He was just banned from Twitter today.
Uh Oh. The moderator vultures are gonna be circling fo sho.
You mean the guy who made a video recently claiming spike proteins are toxic to childrens organs with no evidence? Great. Can’t wait.
Excellent. I've been following him since his interview with the Weinstein's.
@@coalpants3068 we probably shouldn't listen to him even though he invented mRNA technology.
@@JerseyMiller doesn’t mean his word is gospel when it comes to the implementation of the vaccines for c^19
This is the drug that caused my father's heart issue. He was then given a blood thinner (heparin- banned many places, overly used in the USA) during the surgery to fix what the Vioxx did, and was killed slowly by the heparin use (its called HIT syndrome, it clotted his blood instead of thinning it- they cut off his legs, told us they'd let his fingers fall off on their own-- all to no avail, he died after 4 months of torture. Drs know about heparin as well, but the company makes so much money here, they just pay off the families they torture and keep it moving).
Heparin saves infinite more lives than times HIT occurs
How much money did you get in the settlement?
@@Somethin_Slix little i imagine
I'm so sorry to hear about your father. Thanks for sharing your story and wishing you all the best in the new year ❤️
OMG this is Exactly what just happened to my father.
Thank you Joe, this podcast, the one with Peter McCullough and recently the one with Robert Malone were incredible, I rarely listen to the end, but really, wow...
I wish you could have Robert F. Kennedy Jr too.
Dude I'm just a jagoff stoner ambulance driver in Eastern Kentucky and I'm in good shape for a 45 year old jagoff but I'm increasingly sceptical of the pharmacy-industrial complex. It's getting weird in this country, and yeah I have no say in it but it's spooky as fuck.
Out of those patients who took Vioxx, the arthritis drug may have caused approximately 140,000 heart attacks resulting in an estimated 60,000 deaths, FDA investigator Graham.🥺🥺🥺
ruclips.net/video/giV3plTE6Z8/видео.html This is what has been fought for years ...take a lookt
My brother was diagnosed with arthritis at age 6 he was given this medicine but was hiding the pills in the couch cushion.
A young girl that was in his physical therapy class was also on this and she died from this medicine. God bless her and her family. My dad broke down and was on his knees crying asking my brother if he was taking the pills and to stop, that's when he pulled the couch cushion out on unzipped it and months of pills fell out. My parents were relieved but I will aways cry for that girls who's life was cut short. If you or your child dosnt feel right on medication don't force them to take it, let them have a say in what they take and educate yourself and family on all other choices on treatment.
Evil corporations
It's crazy how fast pain medication is described without even knowing the source of the pain.
He should be careful. I know he has resources, but these people have endless money and will go after ANYBODY that attempts to spread information.
This reminds me of the ford pinto story in the 1960s or something , where on collision it would combust because of the position the gas tank was in . It went to litigation and the same outcome unfolded the same way . It’s crazy .
Nah...I believe Ford knew the hazard, and built into their cost:benefit analysis that they WOULD be getting sued and based on the average payout normalized for the risk of occurrence, they concluded that the cost of replacing the parts to make it safe wasn't worth the benefit.
@@chrislimnios9180 yeah that is 100 percent correct, the main idea was no one went to jail for the deaths.
I love joe for bringing these informed people to the masses
@ lol seriously? Okay let's do it
MEDICINE SHOULD NEVER BE POLITICIZED!!!!!!!!!!!!! AFTER I READ ALL GOOD THINGS ABOUT HYDROXYCLOROQUINE AND COVID.... THE SECOND!!!!!!! TRUMP MENTIONED IT IT WAS bad???????????????
There are no consequences because the same people that are charging some of these companies and provide legislation are actually investors in the same company. Why bite the hands that feed their greed? Sad but true. Especially in Canada and the US
Look at what Finasteride is doing to men, and people still trust Merck?
What do you know? Please share bc I tried researching it and I wasn’t able to find severe side effects
Look up post finasteride syndrome. The drug basically chemically castrates some men who take it to combat hair loss by blocking an androgen called 5 alpha reductase (dht) there’s also older men who use it for enlarged prostate which the drug was originally intended for. It blocks neurosteriods in the brain as well. There’s even doctors that dismiss that the condition even exists but I was able to figure out all of the people who deny its existence have ties with Merck. There’s thousands of men suffering from muscle wasting, loss of libido and sexual function along with memory issues.
Reuters also has an article on the drug, and it shows Merck knew of the permanent side effects over 2 decades ago and skewed the data of the research they did.
@@Muslimmindset1154 DO NOT TAKE IT, if you’re susceptible to sides that shit is poison. It will ruin your life.
Theres no such thing as “post finasteride syndrome” its just the typical side effects of taking exogenous male hormones (androgens) which are easily reversed with pct like clomiphene or tamoxifen (nolvadex) typically used by body builders/athletes coming off a steroid cycle.
Look at this study showing tamoxifen alone was enough to reverse the side effects of finasteride usage. Bottom line is dont take any medicine unless you understand the mechanism of action and what its doing to your body. Not all medicine is “bad” or “good”. Get blood work, eat a non-inflammatory diet (varies depending on your body), and see specialists for special concerns (cardiologist for heart, gastro for digestion, dietician for diet etc). Dont just blindly trust your general practitioner for everything because their job is to refer you to an actual specialist. For example i got the vaccine because i have no known heart conditions, have healthy bloodwork, and don’t want to get sick at all while going to university or the gym even if ill survive. My health, my choice, and my fully understood risk assessment. Same reason i wouldnt have sex with someone who has chlamydia, meningitis, or hpv even if Ill survive and even though ive been vaccinated for hpv and men. Make your own responsible choices and pharma companies cant force you to take anything.
pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/9426725/
My brother was one of those 40-60,000 deaths. Vioxx/Merck is responsible for my brother's fatal heart attack in April,2004. Apparently his physician was not aware of the cardiac risk? This interview rattled me to the core. So disturbing.
Sorry to hear that... Wait til the hindsight of the jab comes to fruition. I'm afraid reality is going to get really disturbing throughout this decade... 🙏🏻
@@ZeroMass thank you.
Joe Rogan is honestly pretty heroic for having guests on willing to criticize the medical industrial complex. Most people in the media are busy calling all physicians and nurses heroes.
Dont blame nurses blame the holder of the strings they are atteched to
@@OfficialCANVAS If the nurses go along with what is wrong they should be held accountable too.
The MD's sticking out their neck and going on are the real heros...
@@coveronly228 they aren't doing that. Plenty of people were neglected to death in hospitals and nursing homes because visitors were not allowed. This crap is really sick.
@@zippydodahquirk9039 I"m talking about the man being interviewed ^ who is a doctor and litigator. Bless him for writing this book.
I was prescribed that crap after a bad train derailement/ accident. After reading the news reports, I immediately stopped using it (it was pulled from the market some time after that). When I questioned my orthopedic surgeon about it, he shrugged and told me that he "didn't classify me as being in a high risk group". My dad was put on Celebrex (similar to Vioxx), and developped a heart condition that they couldn't diagnose so they simply classified it as COPD; he got off the meds, changed his diet, and his heart function mostly returned to the shock and awe of his cardiologist. It took a few years, but all the docs wanted to do was give more meds to him . 😡
Still, not worth the risk. Celebrex was the other crap they put me on; lost 38 pounds in a month because it was killing my stomach and desire to eat. Stopped taking that also. Be wary folks, if you can't feel the pain, how do you know something has changed? I would rather some discomfort than the alternative.
I was prescribed Vioxx in 2002 or 2003 after an Achilles tendon surgery. I remember not liking the effect and not taking the pill more than once or twice. Lucky me!
Imagine some years from now the same conversations about the poke...
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For fucking real!
@Eddie D and this is only the first year. Fuck what’s about to come!
Imagine?
Choice between myocarditis and dying alone in a hospital surrounded by people in head to toe plastic saying goodbye to your family on an iPad. Pick one bro!
How’s that “American Dream” working out ? If a working class guy loses control of his truck he gets 110 years in prison (only reduced because of the outcry not because of our justice system) but if a rich Ivy League brat and his frat boy friends run a drug company leading to the deaths of 40k people then all you get is a fine and a warning.
The public needs to know the difference between real doctors and the mass prescribers that call themselves health professionals.
WOW - “mass prescribers” brilliant term