The reason for that is because in the credits they list the members of the Lord of the Rings fanclub, people who paid to be in the fan club to help support the movie, while getting some cool art and a subscription to a magazine about the making of the film. I know because I was a member.
@@theshadowfax239 Huh, thanks for your contribution then, I'm sure it must have helped with this first movie because from what I hear the studio did not have that much faith in it before it became a success.
The biggest thing to remember is the fact that the ring IS its own character. It influences, corrupts, etc. As Gandalf says, it has awoken and heard its master’s call. It WANTS to be found! A lot of people miss when Bilbo drops the ring that it doesn’t bounce at all. It legit falls with a thud and sits there
yeah they put a magnet in the floor to accomplish the effect. This isn't for a story reason, but fun fact, in the scene where frodo drops the ring on caradras and Boromir picks it up, it would have been too hard to get a close-up of the ring without blurring the background a bunch and making the rack focus impossible. So they used a giant-scale ring to give the illusion of an ultra-close up, while maintaining a wider focus.
If you interviewed the Ring after the events of the trilogy he'd go: "About Gollum, now I'd been in a river for 2000 years and I was desperate at the time: but in retrospect, whoever coined the phrase 'don't stick your dick in crazy' might have been on to something."
Yeah, the ring isn't just a temptation, it is a tempter. It whispers directly into your brain, promising anything you might want, threatening anything you might fear. It's potential for corruption cannot be understated.
calling it its own character is abit of a stretch, by that logic all the wands in harry potter are their own characters. while it is true the ring has a will, its not really his OWN will, its an extension of sauron and his will
@@vhaelen326 The ring bends to Sauron's will, yes, but it has its own distinct from him. It recognises only Sauron as its true master, and manipulates people who use it to get back to him. It can cause people to become reliant on it and then - as if by bad luck - fall off or otherwise not be to hand. As you see with Isildur.
J.K. Rowling wasn't even born, when Tolkien wrote his books. He's the father of all modern fantasy. There won't be any Harry Potter, GoT or tons of computer games without LotR. They are all deeply inspired from Tolkiens world. I highly recommend to watch the extended versions, otherwise you will miss some stuff. You're on a journey now you'll never forget. Have fun, I'm sure you will.
An interesting fact- In the scene where the Uruk-Hai throws Aragorn's dagger at him that dagger was real! The actor was supposed to throw it far to Aragorn's left and a separate scene with him throwing a rubber dagger at Aragorn would be inserted in post production. When the Actor threw the real dagger towards Aragorn , the forehead piece of his makeup/costume slipped over his' eyes and he threw it directly at Viggo! Viggo actually blocked it with his sword.! Peter Jackson was so impressed that they never filmed the rubber dagger scene and used the actual take!
I remember the story was that he was supposed to chuck it far too the side of him and they would use a camera trick to make it seem closer than it was, but he missed and threw it right at him, but he managed to block it with the sword.
59:44 "We do not mess with you Elves." The Elves who made those doors were friends with the Dwarves of Khazad-dûm (AKA "Dwarrowdelf") and visited them often.
The Extended Editions were created by Peter Jackson for the fans and to tell a more full story. He decided on the Theatrical Versions for initial release, because he thought that nearly 4 hours was too long for people to be "out". But the Extended Editions are the best version of all the movies! Well done!
A lot of people fail to understand just how big the age difference of some of these characters really is. Legolas is around 3000 years old, Galadriel around 8000, and Gandalf is estimated at around 55,000 years old.
By lore Galadriel is so old, when the Sun first rose she was a fully grown warrior backpacking through the in-universe equivalent of the Artic. With Gandalf, I find it difficult to assign age because he's not born and as a spirit created before even the universe, but he doesn't go to Middle Earth until after the first defeat of Sauron. He's not lived history the way someone like Galadriel has - or another Maiar like Sauron. If the Balrog had stopped for a chat, Galadriel and Sauron would "oh yeah that one guys niece and the fucking nerd" and Gandalf would be "never heard of you, buddy".
Galadriel's history is well-established in the Silmarillion. She did, in fact, backpack across the Arctic in the time between the destruction of the Two Trees and the first rising of the sun. Rings of Power is totally irrelevant to this.
According to the appendixes, an exact year is given for when the Wizards arrive in Middle Earth at the Grey Havens "in the form of " old men. Since they were not "Wizards" before this and were in fact completely different beings, I accept this as the date of their birth. In which case Gandalf walked the roads of Middle Earth for about 2,000 years before the events in The Lord of the Rings takes place.
"That was a huge cake." The cake at Bilbo's party was in fact so big that it actually caught on fire while they were filming Bilbo's speech. You can see the light of the fire to the side while Bilbo is speaking. These films have dozens or more unscripted moments that were left in to add realism. For example, Ian McKellen (Gandalf) really did hit his head when Gandalf first enters Bilbo's house.
42:56 Throwing Isildur into the volcano would solve the ring problem, but an elven general murdering the king of Gondor would just replace one huge mess with another.
@@ebreshea1337I mean, they’re related so far back, if we worried about being with someone we’re so lightly genetically related too, we’d never sleep with anyone. It’s been, like, countless generations of men since Elrond and his brother choose their separate fates
I almost spat out my coffee at the end with the credits. Those 30 minutes were an homage and thank you to all the fanclubs, communities, and supporters of Tolkien's work and the movie project while it was being made. Without the love and support of the fans, the most iconic fantasy trilogy ever would not have been made. Anyway, every movie has the Extended Edition and the Theatrical Edition. Kind of self explanatory. Back then, people wouldn't want to sit around for 3-4 hours for a single movie in theatres like we would for MCU's Infinity War/Endgame.
Lmao are you really saying that people wouldn’t watch 3-4 hours of LOTR (even though they did) but they would for Marvel? Are you stupid man? The succes of LOTR is beyond that og Marvel
Thank you for your lively reaction and I hope you get a lot from the next two films. Harry Potter was written for children which is why it is so easy to read and watch. LotR was written for adults and demands that you think. Tolkien was born in 1892, fought in the trenches of WWI, became an Oxford professor of Literature and Linguistics and began to write his Middle-earth stories in the 1930s. The Hobbit, like HP, was also written for children but, with LotR, he upped his game. He became the father of modern fantasy and many writers, including George R R Martin who wrote Game of Thrones, thank him for his inspiration. Rowling, the author of HP, uses many of Tolkien's ideas, but, sadly, never once acknowledges this. Peter Jackson and his team understood Tolkien's work and did a marvellous job of translating LotR from book to screen. The cinematography, the score, the acting - everything, in fact - are all deserving of praise and it's not surprising that the films won so many Oscars.
Really glad you guys are watching this! Awesome reaction! Alot of people don't understand boromir that well, but he is arguably the most honorable and one of the strongest people in the fellowship. The ring basically corrupts strength and wants. Boromir was so weak to the ring cause his strength and deep need to protect his people that the ring basically made him think he NEEDED the ring to do it. Also why gandalf never once dared touch the ring, cause through his power as a wizard it would destroy and corrupt him immediately. And remember that the ring is so powerful that wizards and elves that's basically demigods dare not even touch it or be near it. And boromir always tought first of the hobbits and always argued for what route would be best and safest for them. And even laid down his life for them in the end. A true warrior. Rest in peace Boromir the second, High Warden of the White Tower and captain-general of Gondor.❤
Love Boromir too, but we can hardly say he is the most honorable since we have Aragorn, Legolas, Gandalf, Sam and Gimli in the fellowship. Also, his brother Faramir is extremely honorable and wise in the books. There are many differences between books and movies, but one I dislike the most is the way they depict Faramir. One od my favorite characters, and Tolkien said that he identifies with him more than with any other character in his masterpiece. ❤
@polypandora1943 faramir always been one of my favourites since I was a kid! And was so happy when he and eowyn held hands and leaned on eachother cause, fuck me that man needed some love in his life 🤣 My all time favourite however is ofc Gimli son of Glóin, lord of the glittering caves! And after him we got Sam Samwise the brave!❤️
@@polypandora1943 True but note that Aragorn, Gimli, Legolas, and Gandalf are much older (Aragorn is probably 50 years older, and the others much much more) so their perception of the actual danger that the ring represents can only be much more acute than and different from Boromir's. Sam being a hobbit has no potential for great ambitions that great warriors can have.
Book readers know how difficult it is to bring that book to the screen and do it justice. Jackson did a phenomenal job and created one the best and most loved trilogies in movie history. I'll never forget watching this thing in an absolutely packed movie theatre on release. Nice reaction guys.
@@MorgothsBalrog confirmed. I honestly prefer the theatrical for fellowship tho. They mention bilbo's mithril shirt AGAIN right before the fight with the cave troll in extended. In the theatrical, they haven't mentioned it since Rivendell so youve had more time to forget.
@@MorgothsBalrog My point is that for first watchers, the extended edition kind of spoils that frodo is not really dead after being stabbed by the cave troll. Edit: even just for my own personal enjoyment, I kinda cringe at that line. It seems almost like a wink/nod at the audience or something. And while other movies have some important scenes that were cut about boromir, or saruman, fellowship doesn't really have much that stands out as being "lost" in the theatrical.
The song Aragorn sings has huge importance! Here is the full version: “The leaves were long, the grass was green, The hemlock-umbels tall and fair, And in the glade a light was seen; Of stars in shadow shimmering, Tinnúviel was dancing there, To music of a pipe unseen And light of stars was in her hair And in her raiment glimmering There Beren came from mountains cold; And lost he wandered under leaves; And where the Elven-river rolled. He walked alone and sorrowing. He peered between the hemlock-leaves; And saw in wonder flowers of gold Upon her mantle and her sleeves And her hair like shadow following Enchantment healed his weary feet That over hills were doomed to roam And forth he hastened, strong and fleet And grasped at moonbeams glistening Through woven woods in Elvenhome She lightly fled on dancing feet And left him lonely still to roam In the silent forest listening He heard there oft the flying sound Of feet as light as linden-leaves Or music welling underground In hidden hollows quavering Now withered lay the hemlock-sheaves And one by one with sighing sound Whispering fell the beachen leaves In the wintry woodland wavering He sought her ever, wandering far Where leaves of years were thickly strewn By light of moon and ray of star In frosty heavens shivering Her mantle glinted in the moon As on a hill-top high and far She danced, and at her feet was strewn A mist of silver quivering When winter passed, she came again And her song released the sudden spring, Like rising lark, and falling rain And melting water bubbling He saw the elven-flowers spring About her feet, and healed again He longed by her to dance and sing Upon the grass untroubling Again she fled, but swift he came Tinnúviel ! , Tinnúviel ! He called her by her elvish name And there she halted listening One moment stood she, and a spell His voice laid on her: Beren came And doom fell on Tinúviel That in his arms lay glistening As Beren looked into her eyes Within the shadows of her hair The trembling starlight of the skies He saw there mirrored shimmering Tinnúviel the elven-fair Immortal maiden elven-wise About him cast her shadowy hair And arms like silver glimmering Long was the way that fate them bore O'er stony mountains cold and grey Through halls of ireon and darkling door, And woods of nightshade morrowless The Sundering Seas between them lay And yet at last they met once more And long ago they passed away In the forest singing sorrowless” The true elvish version is far greater and so full of beauty & nuanced mournful sadness that’s break the hearts of mortals from its beauty and sadness so the true song has been sort of taboo and the mannish tongues that retell it is stated to only be a shadow beneath the tree of the true story! (A clip of it is in the original definitive version though. Viggo Mortenson who plays Aragorn designed the melody and style himself and wished it to sound Celtic in nature.)
I have loved this poem for more than 50 years - thanks for sharing :) Tolkien’s work has always been my first love though I have found other authors inspired by his works - my username is from one of them…
At 8:25, Otho Sackville-Baggins is Bilbo's closest living relative, and he would have inherited Bilbo's hobbit-hole if Bilbo hadn't adopted Frodo as his heir 12 years previously. Otho and Lobelia are dreadful neighbors. Also, Hobbits live a bit longer than Men; Tolkien writes that Hobbits live to 100 as often as not. Gandalf congratulates Bilbo on reaching eleventy-one at their first meeting, and he gives him a hard look. For Bilbo still looks as young as he did when he first found the Ring, sixty years previously. Something is not right...
Honestly, Tolkien giving hobbits a bit extra life expectancy was accidentially really in line with the fact that small people tend to live a little longer than tall people and that a peacful, chill lifestyle of working just hard enough for a humble living also adds a couple years.
@@Dusk.EighthLegionyeah there’s something like 20 years between Gandalf leaving and coming back. Can’t remember exact amount of years, and even then they spend months getting ready to leave bag end and fake leaving the shire.
At 30:03 you say, "I feel like there's so many names of things I'm not going to remember..." Names are the essence of Tolkien's writing style. He wasn't a professional novelist; he was an Oxford professor of philology, the study of words and languages. In his spare time, he enjoyed making up languages. His Elvish languages (and there are two major ones: Sindarin, or everyday Elvish, and Quenya, or "Elven-Latin," mostly used for names of people and places, plus several more that don't appear in the book) were the impulse that led him to write LOTR: What would a man named "Aragorn" look like? The Elven languages were constructed like real languages, with words formed from root meanings: "Mor-" = black, "-dor" = land, so "Mordor" = "Black Land" or "Land of Shadow." Take notes, if you need to, but mostly just enjoy the show.
4:29 - Faxx this entire film was shot in NZ. In Matamata, after returning to shoot The Hobbit they decided to make the set of Hobbiton permanent. Many of the houses don’t even have interiors, they are just fronts with a door.
Whenever I see someone reacting to this series for the first time, I have to watch. I was there at the midnight showing of the first one in theaters. My brother made me read the books before I could watch the movies. I want to reread them too. One of the most epic stories ever told.
At 47:25, the words Gandalf is chanting in the Black Speech is the inscription on the One Ring. Tolkien writes, "The change in the wizard's voice was astounding. Suddenly it became menacing, powerful, harsh as stone. A shadow seemed to pass over the high sun, and the porch for a moment grew dark. All trembled, and the Elves stopped their ears."
One point to defend Pippin. Hobbits aren't considered adults until they turn 33. When they leave the Shire Frodo is 50, Sam 38, Merry 36 but Pippin is only 28/29. In hobbit years he's the equivalent of a human teenager. Of course he's impulsive, curious and thoughtless..even reckless. Killing Isildur would cause a different war for the elves. There's also the fact that Elrond was distantly related to Isildur. Elrond's twin brother chose to become a mortal and Isildur was one of his descendants as is Aragorn. Elrond was married to Galadriel and Celeborn's daughter so Galadriel is Arwen's grandmother. Galadriel is also older than heck. She's not only one of the oldest elves (if not the oldest) still in Middle Earth but the most powerful.
Galadriel is certainly not the oldest elf. Her parents are even recorded: Finarfin, prince of the Noldor, and Eärwen, princess of the Teleri. Finarfin’s parents are Finwe and Indis. Though we don’t know who Finwe’s parents are, we know that he had parents and wasn’t among the first elves. Therefore, Galadriel has at least great grandparents. Edit: spelling
I am not up to date on all of the lore and such but considering that Isildur was Númenórean I am not convinced that Elrond would have been capable of outright killing Isildur. Isuldur was at least equal to a great elf but also considering he cut the ring he may have been even more. Hard to say but I often wonder about that as it would not have been as simple as Elrond deciding to do something and it happening. Let me know if there is anything pointing to a pure conclusion.
@@stephenseay3878 In the books it was Gilgalad and Elendil that defeated Sauron, but both died in the process. After this Isildur cut the ring from Sauron’s finger. He was only able to do this AFTER Sauron was defeated and with the broken sword Narsil, which was a legendary sword, one of the few sharp enough to even cut it. Also we gotta look at Elrond’s personality. He was not in authority to tell Isildur what to do, nor did he have the power. Also, it wasn’t clear to anyone what to do with the ring, though it was generally agreed that destroying it was probably the wisest decision, a point discussed in the Council of Elrond. Third and finally, unfortunately the movies paint Isildur in a bad light. I won’t go into all the details, but Isildur actually ended up wanting to go to Elrond again to take his advice on the ring, since he was unable to dominate the ring himself and felt that it was slowly gaining control over him. The ambush you see in the movie is the scene where Isildur was actually on his way to consult Elrond about the ring. Tragically, we know the rest. Edit: spelling
I would more so say that hobbits can be rather naive of matters that do not concern them, as they tend to not travel far and don't know or care much for what happens outside their borders. War and dangers of these kinds are all but unknown to them, except perhaps for some stories they have heard. I would consider them adults because their brains do not seem to age/mature slower than those of humans. As I said, I more so would call them naive and unknowing. Which is why you can definitely see character growth in both Merry and Pippin as they experience the world out of their homely comforts. And yes Pippin is also a rather curious person, which certainly did not help.
Thank you for connecting with the characters! LOTR is very dear to so many peoples hearts. Tolkien is considered the father of the fantasy genre and without which we wouldn’t have had Harry Potter and other stories his works have inspired.
50:40 "I will take the Ring to Mordor." Damn. I actually got teary-eyed at this part. I can't fathom the number of times I've seen this, yet it still bears my heart bare, for my love of fantasy.
it always hits harder when you see bormir become corrupt. he says curse you all the half lings. while when they lefft moria he was carrying frodo and saying "give them a moment for pitty sake" he is the true human arc. and its why hes my favorite character in the story, all he ever wanted was to protect everyone. redeemed in the end. beautiful
There is a great game based on the Tolkien's books with a huge and intricate world. It is a MMORPGs called: The Lord of the Rings Online. It has been around for 17 years and is still going strong. It is an open world (except for a few zones and, of course, instances). You can level in that world in many different ways, you can explore and travel endlessly, learn history, have parties or just fun. It is a living world. A few years back there were over 11,000 quests. There are more by now as they keep adding packs and expansions and new areas.. You may want to check it out after you have finished watching the films.
I love how y'all immediately joined the "yeet Isildur" club lol. But honestly, I think that's part of why the One Ring is so scary: while safely away from it's influence (in the audience's case, protected by the 4th wall) the ring isn't a hugely obvious threat (until we get clued into the background music) and it's simple to imagine getting rid of it. But then in the little things, we see the weight of its power: the way it thuds when Bilbo drops it, the way it drags Frodo towards the vision of Sauron, how everyone in the council meeting can't stop staring at it, especially Boromir. Even the audience isn't immune from wanting to use its power to turn invisible during tense moments. It's the textbook example for an evil artifact for a reason.
The voice at the beginning is Galadriel - She’s older than the sun & moon, learned all from ALL the Valar (beyond angels), that was possible to be taught from them. she always knew there was more to know, to learn and more to create and had a drive to visit the homeland of her forefathers. To the hitherlands. Middle Earth. Where the elves truly were meant to live and mentor mankind for thousands of years so men could be fully ready to take the reigns in being the stewards of the world.
It's something you brought up towards the start so I thought I'd clear it up for you (no spoilers). The One Ring is very impressionable on those that have their distinct goals and objectives and is able to manipulate those goals to its own. Gandalf is a greater being called a Maya (this isn't mentioned in the films) which is essentially a godly being, meaning his objective is to passively protect the world of Middle Earth; a tangible objective that is easily manipulated by the ring. This is why Gandalf did not want to handle the ring and also why Isildur at the start was easily manipulated as a greedy and selfish race of men. Bilbo and Frodo are part of the Hobbit race which are very innocent and much kept to themselves with no goals but to just exist in their own lives with happiness and bliss. There's no tangible objective for the ring to openly manipulate them, especially with their innocence.
Tolkien, (The OG of all Authors) was a veteran of the First World War and many other battles such as The Battle Of Somme etc. his works of art were to give back to the England as a form of restoring lost mythologies that he himself was a master of since he was a top professor of philology at Oxford. He did ALOT of his writing while in the trenches during WWI during small “breaks” while down in those trench forts built into the ground. And while he eldest son was in the Second World War; his Lord Of The Rings writings was strictly created above all else to give his eldest something to read while stationed wherever he was stationed. I forgot that part. They sent letters back and forth about it all the time. He was also the one and only son that actually protected his fathers legacy and work. A lot of his other work were put together BY his son after his father passed away. It’s well worth to react to the documentary behind the scenes film the director and crew and cast created together as well as the interview with the son Christopher Tolkien who you get to sort of enjoy a nice indoor and outdoor chat for like what came to about 1-2 hours of wonderful footage from an era that really must not be forgotten. His work shed a light on things like The Finnish Kalevala, Norwegian Elder Edda, The Welsh Mabinogion, The Norwegian Nibelungen, The Indian Bhagvagita & Several Irish Folklore + other Cultural things! The man also restored and translated ancient relics for the governments as one everyone trusted. Much of what’s in our dictionary come from his efforts as well. Anytime he spoke & even posted several comments into the paper as an editorial or response to certain issues as a very involved man for the world and the environment everyone turned their head to listen to him as everyone knew his worth and respected him greatly. His works show how NOT to glorify war; shows in the films if you pay close attention while watching the next films. Sharing what you know now via the after thoughts at the end of the second film! Remember. Extended edition. There is a lot missed out on especially in the second movie regarding Boromir backstory which there is much more in the books but the films WANTED to keep more but the cinemas and Harvey Weinstein literally harangued him into making a “theatrical cut” which is why you have two versions. The real version and the “theatrical cut”. It was all to make more money for the company that is the theatres/cinemas. To get more showings in per day during the year. And believe me. People were camping outside and travelling the country to watch it MORE THAN ONCE. His creations literally lead to inspiring the most currently famous books games & movies we all literally wouldn’t have enjoyed and be touched to our souls core without him and his spiritually connected brilliance. That and he was a philologist professor at Oxford first and foremost which covers so many things. Not just linguistic. The man was a true genius and Jack of all trades but ultimately LOVED the simple life. The inspiration for Lord of the Rings was not any war, but author J.R.R. Tolkien's love of language. Especially Welsh, Finnish and Old English. He lamented the loss of any true English folklore, that was wiped out after the Norman invasion of 1066, so Tolkien wrote many books on these new "legends" he came up with himself. Much of which is centered around three languages he fully developed himself. Two Elven languages and Dwarvish., Númenorean Adunaic, Black Speech(warped Numenorean and elvish) They all have syntax, vocabularies, and a whole writing system that can be learned as the Tengwar alphabet is moreso to match with the spoken elvish rather than one to one for other country’s alphabet. Hundreds of people worldwide speak elvish fluently. Tolkien did draw upon his personal experience in the trenches of World War ONE, not Two, as inspiration for some parts, most notably, the Dead Marshes that Frodo and Sam and Gollum pass through in The Two Towers. But war was not the inspiration for the entire series. World Of Warcraft. Skyrim, Harry Potter, Diablo, D&D, even Warhammer and so forth wouldn’t have. Existed without taking inspiration from and or completely ripping off from Tolkien. Many great documentaries to react to about him also more about him and AWESOME stuff from the hours & hours of behind the scenes documentaries from the DVDs of the movies which are also on RUclips & I can send you a playlist to react to from top to bottom on the channel called Pajasek99
Enjoyed your reaction guys, thank you - you had just enough fun with it, while still being respectful and attentive so you didn't miss any of the important dialogue and storyline.
Theres advantages of watching both. Theres a couple of places where the enhanced version spoils a surprise that in the theatrical release increases the suspense.
@@karidrgn Peter Jackson wanted people to see the extended (uncut) versions in the theatres, but Harvey Weinstein stopped him. In fact, Harvey wanted just ONE movie in the threatres, not a trilogy. 5 years of court proceedings - and the 'harvey weinstein orc" in return of the king (made at Jackson's specific direction) was the result. Too many people don’t realize they are arguing in favour of a version of this movies that was only shown in theatres because of legal reasons - not for artistic reasons. - Peter Jackson’s passion project team was forced to not show their full content as it would cut into what the cinema CEOs literally called the theatrical edition to get more screen time in and more mulla for themselves. It’s a such a nasty business. 80 percent true that money be the root of all evil. It’s the reason the real pumped out the EE as fast as possible in DVD format before the second and third film hit theatres to get back at Harvey Weinstein, again, they wanted people to see the whole movie which invites feelings of completion in one’s heart. But he just announced that’s he found 1300 hours worth of footage from a warehouse he finally got access to so we will see more specially made super extended edition cinema extravaganzas that no cinema would pass on the opportunity to ride on his coattails again. The EE wasn’t just for fans. He literally was adapting the books to film as honestly as possible. the DVD documentaries showed that they didn’t want to cut anything. And weaselled around things to create the EE. (EE is extended edition by the way! ❤️). Without the extended for the next two films I always say “Good luck missing the Boromir backstory. Good luck explaining why the cloak turns into a rock. Good luck explaining the elves that had explained their current situation since the first film. It all ties together good luck skipping the gift scene with Galadriel and Celeborn and the extra scenes between Aragorn and Celeborn & Galadriel to Aragorn!” It’s seriously needed for the film worldbuilding and heightening the stakes. Also, I’d rather have faith people have the emotional and intellectual IQ high enoug to understand it or shall we have changed the title to something else same as how JK was forced to change the title in America to sorcerers stone instead of PHILOSPHER as Americans don’t even know what a Philospher is anymore these days which is sad. Relating to that: Tolkien was very sad about people losing connection to their past and heritage etc!
@amberleaf42069 well, I'd read the books so pretty much knew the plot. The only surprises were where they added stuff not in the books like the fight between Gandalf and saruman. Which was really cool to see.
Nice reaction, there is an open world game based on the Lord of the Rings books: Lord of the Rings Online, its a MMORPG released in 2007. The graphics may not be as good as they could be with todays graphic engines, but it still has its charm as the developers put much love in the creation of the landscapes. The Shire, Rivendell, Bree every place looks beautiful. You cannot play as a member of the original fellowship, but you can create your own character as an Elf, Man, Dwarf or Hobbit and choose a character-class (Warrior, Guardian, Captain, Burglar, and so on.) for it. Not all classes are availiable for all races though. You are one of the residents of Middle-Earth who feel that something evil grows in the lands and decided to do something about it. Your character can join a kinship (like a clan), choose a backstory for your character (strenghts, weaknesses) and many people really do play their roles like in a play or film. It is possible to play solo, but it is more fun to play in groups (fellowships, up to 6 members). There is a main quest line that follows the journey of the fellowship, and sometimes you will meet them, but most of the times you cover their flanks, prepare the way for them or clean up after them. There are also many minor side quests with quite interesting stories that imerse you even more in this fantastic world of Middle-Earth. Maybe you'd like to check it out. It is free to play with some restrictions like gold-cap, limited inventory space and such but it is enough to get a feel for it and to decide if it would be worth for you to start a subscription or not.
49:30 One can appreciate that Gimli heard what needs to be done, calculated his options for a sec and went for the kill then and there. No mind tricks or foul influence, he just grabbed his axe and went to work :D
It's funny that despite how long this movie is, particularly the extended version, every single reaction channel I've seen all say "is that it?!" at the end 😅
1:10:22 you didnt realize the Mithril armor.. A few minutes ago, Gandalf said The king Thorin gave one of the mithril armors to Bilbo.. I didnt say that to Bilbo but That mithril armor may buy the whole shire.. That was this mithril armor that Frodo wear.. The mithril mines are more valuable than golds and jewels and diamonds..
From the time Bilbo left the ring, to the time that Frodo actually left on his journey was over 15 years. Gandalf was looking for Gollum and after finding him, questioned him as to the origin of the ring. Great, really great reaction gentlemen. You got my sub. Keep it coming.
In the directors commentary PJ deliberately decided to make it seem like a shorter time for the sake of a feeling of urgency. I personally take that to mean the movie canon is different than true canon.
The Extendeds are actually the "normal" versions. The theatricals had to be cut for time, to make their running lengths acceptable for theaters, at the expense of scenes that add greatly to the understanding of the characters and the overall story. A lot of Extended, Director's cut, etc. releases are money grabs whose whole purpose is to get you to spend your money again; NOT the case with LOTR.
Yup. Peter Jackson wanted people to see the extended (uncut) versions in the theatres, but Harvey Weinstein stopped him. In fact, Harvey wanted just ONE movie in the threatres, not a trilogy. 5 years of court proceedings - and the 'harvey weinstein orc" in return of the king (made at Jackson's specific direction) was the result. Too many people don’t realize they are arguing in favour of a version of this movies that was only shown in theatres because of legal reasons - not for artistic reasons. - Peter Jackson’s passion project team was forced to not show their full content as it would cut into what the cinema CEOs literally called the theatrical edition to get more screen time in and more mulla for themselves. It’s a such a nasty business. 80 percent true that money be the root of all evil. It’s the reason the real pumped out the EE as fast as possible in DVD format before the second and third film hit theatres to get back at Harvey Weinstein, again, they wanted people to see the whole movie which invites feelings of completion in one’s heart. But he just announced that’s he found 1300 hours worth of footage from a warehouse he finally got access to so we will see more specially made super extended edition cinema extravaganzas that no cinema would pass on the opportunity to ride on his coattails again. The EE wasn’t just for fans. He literally was adapting the books to film as honestly as possible. the DVD documentaries showed that they didn’t want to cut anything. And weaselled around things to create the EE. (EE is extended edition by the way! ❤️). Without the extended for the next two films I always say “Good luck missing the Boromir backstory. Good luck explaining why the cloak turns into a rock. Good luck explaining the elves that had explained their current situation since the first film. It all ties together good luck skipping the gift scene with Galadriel and Celeborn and the extra scenes between Aragorn and Celeborn & Galadriel to Aragorn!” It’s seriously needed for the film worldbuilding and heightening the stakes. Also, I’d rather have faith people have the emotional and intellectual IQ high enoug to understand it or shall we have changed the title to something else same as how JK was forced to change the title in America to sorcerers stone instead of PHILOSPHER as Americans don’t even know what a Philospher is anymore these days which is sad. Relating to that: Tolkien was very sad about people losing connection to their past and heritage etc!
17:30 ironically being “too old, actually is the reason why gandalf couldn’t take it, the older you are in middle earth, the more powerful you probably are, and gandalf predates middle earth 😭
(No spoilers) - Firstly: All 16 rings were meant to go to the elves ( which lead to 300-500years of his infiltration & deception down the drain.) but Mairon of the Maiar(primordial angelic beings in simple terms as they are sort of beyond angels) disguised as a high elf named Annatar when he came to the elves pretending to be an emissary from Valinor on behalf of the Valar so it makes sense how alluring the ring is and how strong it’s pull on people is. (A bit too instant in the movies though) Galadriel soon saw right through him and especially when after speaking with him regarding not remembering him when in Valinor long ago where she learned from all the Valar thanks to being dominantly Vanyar/Teleri side over her Noldorin side where she gleaned from that encounter that she did not study under Aulë the Vala with any elf named Annatar ! But later named Sauron by the elves meaning deceiver! After all of this, The three elven rings were made in secret without Saurons touch upon them thanks to Celebrimbor! Remember Gandalf before he became Gandalf was the same species of entity Sauron used to be!! Wow hey? The Rings in this case, would have lost their powers eventually due to the lack of the One Ring and possibly because they were designed to defeat evil, & evil in the form of Sauron had been defeated twice already in the past. The Three Elven Rings served their purpose for a long time. Two out of three of them had several different bearers Unlike the other Rings, the main purpose of the Three is to "heal and preserve", as when Galadriel used Nenya to preserve her realm of Lothlórien over long periods. The Elves made the Three Rings to try to halt the passage of time, or as Tolkien had Elrond say, "to preserve all things unstained". I can expand upon this based on any further statements & questions you have for me as a reply to this comment ! ❤ There is problem here with the Rings, the Three were supposed to be never touched by Sauron and that's why they were not corrupting…Sauron had not taken part in their making which made the Three more 'pure' unsullied by his dark power, unlike the Nine and Seven Rings! But Sauron in the show touched the very material they were made of!!! So technically he could have tainted them and corrupted! Even appendices of Lot tell us the order of making the rings, so they didn't even need the righs to more detailed writings in UT or Silmarillion: 1200 Sauron endeavours to seduce the Eldar. Gil-galad refuses to treat with him; but the smiths of Eregion are won over. The Númenoreans begin to make permanent havens. c. 1500 The Elven-smiths instructed by Sauron reach the height of their skill. They begin the forging of the Rings of Power. c. 1590 The Three Rings are completed in Eregion. c. 1600 Sauron forges the One Ring in Orodruin. He completes the Barad-dûr. Celebrimbor perceives the designs of Sauron. 1693 War of the Elves & Sauron begins. The Three Rings are hidden." 'Did you not hear me, Gloin?' said Elrond. 'The Three were not made by Sauron, nor did he ever touch them. But of them it is not permitted to speak. So much only in this hour of doubt I may now say. They are not idle. But they were not made as weapons of war or conquest: that is not their power. Those who made them did not desire strength or domination or hoarded wealth, but understanding, making, and healing, to preserve all things unstained. These things the Elves of Middle-earth have in some measure gained, though with sorrow. But all that has been wrought by those who wield the Three will turn to their undoing, and their minds and hearts will become revealed to Sauron, if he regains the One." - The 3 Elven Rings are not susceptible to “The One Ring” in any direct way.. They’re only tied by fate to lose their power if Sauron is defeated completely & absolutely. As they were made by the elves and as always they make things for a purpose and pour their literal spirit into things they create. So if Sauron is defeated then the three rings power will fade and basically become almost useless or diminished versions of their original design since by this era magic has bled from the world by a huge degree thanks to Morgoth’s poisoning the world itself with his very essence that he poured into it. Called The Long Defeat By The Elves and The Men Of The West.
Actually Gimli attacking the ring shows it has no hold over him just like the Dwarvish rings out of the 16 meant to go to the elves had no hold over them. So technically they could easily be used offensively & defensively but many disappeared over the ages mainly due to Sauron collecting them back again over the last few thousand years. One or two eaten by dragons (not simple minded beasts here. They were twisted and enhanced beings by Melkor/Morgoth(Saurons Upperclassman as far as the Ainur face goes.). There were only a few of them and their offspring are lesser drakes throughout middle earth. Most recent one you’ll see in The Hobbit movie and one other most recent dragon left of the originally created dragons was Scatha, of which I don’t think Scatha even has wings or could fly in any permanent sort of way. “Evil cannot create. Only twist and warp what is already natural to the world” - “Nobody Trust An Elf” The thing is with a certain clan of dwarves: A giant set of events throughout the ages caused a huge rift between dwarves and elves since before any elf ever saw a dwarf. Elves are the firstborn. Men are the secondborn. Dwarvish forefathers were created by the hands of one of the Valar named Aulë, then essentially Eru Îlluvatar(AllFather) breathed life into them to later wake up at a later date since Aulë was still excited to create things of his very own. It’s also why dwarves overall can resist the rings power and so forth. There were these beings became known as Petty Dwarves in the books where these beings were super hostile and the elves thought it was just another spawn of Melkor (now Morgoth) so when they finally did see actual dwarves they killed them on site. That and dwarves were keen on chopping down trees by huge amounts so you can kind of see why… but this was only the beginning. But it’s not a very good start. Buuut not all dwarvish clans share this rift as the creator of the 16 rings was an elf named Celebrimbor and is one of the best characters ever. His main smithery guild in Eregion was full of dwarves and elves called the “Gwaith Ír Mirdain”. Even Gimli’s father was really close to a certain elf I won’t name yet! ❤ Not all dwarves were enemies to elves. Galadriel and her brother were best friends with dwarves. Famously the fortress of Nargothrond was built by Finrod Felagund with the dwarves! It was only a certain clan that killed Elu Thingol! (Elwë) Galadriel & her elder brother Finrod Felagund were best friends with the dwarves. Finrod was named Felagund by the dwarves meaning “Earth Hewer” from the fact he helped them build the great fortress called Nargothrond of which he was the elven lord that ruled there justly. Was the same for Celebrimbor and the dwarves of Eregion especially the guild called Gwaith Í Mirdain. His bestie was Narvi the dwarf. Narvi and Celebrimbor created the doors of Moria. Moria is also the elvish name for Khazad Dûm. This gift for Gimli set it into imperishable Crystal and would be the only thing left in middle earth that holds the light of the two trees of Valinor (Valanor by the Eldar). It’s basically the uncursed version of the Nauglamir. He named it The Galadramir. ❤ If you search for 'victorian hair art' then you can see what amazing things people created with hair in the past. Craftsmen as dwarfs were, I imagine that Gimli must have created something beyond exquisite!
Among all the other great qualities of this movie, the soundtrack by Howard Shore is some of the greatest cinematic music ever created. Well worth listening to by itself.
The elvish songs of lamentation were for Gandalf when they arrived in Lothlórien. So the song you hear is literally for him whilst being a theme for the movie itself. This was expanded & set to music by Philippa Boyens & Howard Shore, respectively, for The Lord of the Rings: The Fellowship of the Ring. It was sung in the said film by Elizabeth Fraser in the track Lothlórien. Notable about this song is that it assumes that the elves of Lothlórien were aware that Gandalf was an incarnate Maia. This is debatable. As well, the lyrics ask "What drove you to leave/That which you loved?". This suggests that Gandalf was well aware that he would fall in Moria. Other verses include Gandalf being the wisest of the Maiar, and that with him the Flame of Anor would leave the world (assuming that it and he were one, or he was the only wielder of the Flame). (English comes after the Quenya) * The first part is in Quenya: A Olórin i yáresse Mentaner i Númenherui Tírien i Rómenóri Maiaron i Oiosaila Manan elye etevanne Nórie i melanelye? - The Second part is in Sindarin: Mithrandir, Mithrandir, A Randir Vithren ú-reniathach i amar galen I reniad lín ne mór, nuithannen In gwidh ristennin, i fae narchannen I lach Anor ed ardhon gwannen Caled veleg, ethuiannen. * Olórin, who once was... Sent by the Lords of the West To guard the lands of the East Wisest of all Maiar What drove you to leave That which you loved? Mithrandir, Mithrandir O Pilgrim Grey No more will you wander the green fields of this earth Your journey has ended in darkness. The bonds cut, the spirit broken The Flame of Anor has left this World A great light, extinguished. And Since Gandalf is tied to the story and fate of the elves as he is one of the Maiar spirits is that when one perishes it tends to be a big deal when something like one “dies” if you will. Spending thousands of years together even in his current embodiment is still greatly impactful upon his death.
Extended scenes at risk of being missed: 1• Frodo/Sam's first meeting with the elves, providing context for Valinor and the elves journey there, as referenced throughout the films and seen at the end of the Return of the King(connects to the passing of the elves in the beginning of their leaving the shire when Frodo and Sam are near the Old Forest by the Shire which leads them to eventually bumping into Merry And Pippin! (An epic scene with Gandalf in Rivendell was also removed as well.) 2. Aragorn singing the Lay of Luthien, providing a parallel between the events of the Beren and Luthien and Aragorn's relationship with Arwen of which every reactor channel I’ve seen makes the connection and it pulls them into a deeper understanding of their relationship every single time. 3. Aragorn kneeling at his mother's grave, giving him some additional backstory for the viewer. 4. Gandalf explaining to Frodo about the corruptive power of the Ring, and how it will strain the Fellowship from the inside, foreshadowing Boromir's downfall. 5. Sam singing a lament for Gandalf, providing more emotional weight to Gandalf's death, referencing the start of the movie and strengthening the connection between him and the Hobbits ( also highlights Tolkien's love of song and poetry in the books). 6. Galadriel giving the gifts to the Fellowship, providing context for their appearance in later films, as well as drawing a parallel between Gimli's gift and the events of the Silmarillion (Fëanor & Galadriel). That’s just the beginning. Including several removed scenes between Aragorn & Galadriel and Aragorn with her husband Celeborn! 7• also the opening explaining Hobbits & their culture to the viewers, so they have a better understanding of these peoples we will be following which also was the direct full chapter called Concerning Hobbits.
1:18:39 when Legolass is explaining what happened to Gandalf. He calls the Balrog a "Balrog of Morgoth." Morgoth was Sauron's master, and the original dark lord. And the Balrogs were his elite soldiers. If you think Sauron is dangerous, imagine if Morgoth was still alive.
23:02 cuz its a dolly zoom, the camera is zooming out while being wheeled in/forward, or the other way around I cant rmbr but that's what makes the effect :D
My favorite shot of the trilogy is in this movie, it is when Frodo puts out the fire on the watchtower and the ringwraiths come out of the mist, love that shot
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Most people who react to the extended editions, always include the extended scenes in the reaction, despite not knowing which scenes are added. In my opinion this demonstrates the contextual importance of these scenes cut from the theatrical.
Is nobody gonna comment how Galadriel here is SO powerful without the need to wield a sword (cause strength isnt always physical).. She was argueably THE strongest elf at the time.. probably stronger than Gandalf and Saruman.. and she kept all of her region of the woods safe from the darkness of Sauron by her power.. Fast forward a few years to her depiction in rings of power and.. man.. why they do her like that... I mean Gandalf was the Leader of the White Council only because SHE chose him over Saruman.. talk about real power
“This would make a great open world video game, right?” Literally every single child watching these movies back in the day praying for this to be a thing
Hobbits aren't just small. The actor who played Gandalf (Sir Ian McKellen) is really tall. And him bonking his head on the beam wasn't scripted; he actually bonked his head. Another moment that wasn't supposed to happen was the Uruk Kai throwing the dagger at Aragorn. What I mean is the Uruk actor got so into character that he threw a real dagger at Aragorn's actor. And him blocking it with his sword was a genuine response.
the second story is likely false. Fans confused two different stories. Lurtz couldn't see very well so he accidentally headbutted Viggo. The amazing thing about the knife deflection was just that he got it first try. Source: Actors' and Director's commentary. I can't find a single source for any other deflection story.
One thing I noticed here that I had never noticed before was the juxtaposition of Boromir’s death to Isildur’s. Boromir died fighting with three arrows in his chest. Isildur died trying to flee with three arrows in the back. That alone shows that men have the courage and strength required to fight the growing evil.
The song heard when the elves were spotted in the forest by Frodo&Sam near the beginning of the movie: chanting a very special Hymn to make their journey most safe:(With English translation) * Á Elbereth Gilthoniel “o Elbereth who lit the stars” * silivren penna míriel “from glittering crystal slanting falls with light like jewels” * Ò menel aglar elenath “from heaven on high the glory of the starry host” * na-chaered palan-díriel “to lands remote I have looked afar” ò galadhremmin ennorath “from tree-tangled middle-lands” * Fanuilos, le linnathon “and now to thee, Fanuilos, bright spirit clothed in ever-white, I will ... sing” * nef aear, sí nef aearon “here ... beyond the Sea, beyond the wide and sundering Sea” * Ã Elbereth Gilthoniel² “o Elbereth who lit the stars” * Ò menel palan-diriel “from heaven gazing far” * le nallon sí di’nguruthos “here overwhelmed in dread of Death I cry” * Á tiro nin, Fanuilos “o guard me, Elbereth” (The elvish name given to Varda is Elbereth Gilthoniel is one of the main Valar who are of the main group of entities known as the Ainur who sang the world into being and helped shaped it further from within after some entered into the young world. She is most loved & honoured by the elves for many reasons) It’s very important as regarding the elves history that spanned over 40,000+ years. Because even one of the three high kings within Valinor was 30,000 years old well before the third age. Galadriel is his granddaughter just do you know. Yeah. She’s very important throughout the entire histories. They are passing away with what’s left of their kin to the undying lands. Many thousands had their home in middle earth just like the high kings ancestors that woke to the stars. Their birth is shrouded in mist as is their entire existence itself. That in itself is a whole story. You’d love to react to the immersive and entertaining lore videos like moviejoob & OmarioRPG have done. It’s ever vast and rewarding to let touch your soul.❤❤❤❤ Varda is a Quenya name of Valarin origin meaning "Sublime", "Exalted" or "Lofty" Elentári means queen of the stars in Quenya. Elbereth means queen of the stars in Sindarin. Gilthoniel means kindler of the stars in Sindarin. An original title of Varda, meaning 'the Kindler', and deriving from her making of the first faint stars in ancient times which was to light the dark world which had no sun yet and they loomed over the original Dark Lord (Fallen Valar named Morgoth by the elves) who he feared most above all even as supposedly he was the mightiest and first of all Ainur to ever exist (Ainur is the ultimate race of both Maiar and Valar) When, long afterwards, she used the dews of Telperion, (one of the two sacred trees that predated the Moon of which it birthed later on) to kindle brighter stars still, this honorific name seems to have fallen out of favour. After that time she was called instead Elentári, the Queen of the Stars.
The LOTR was written as a single volume book with six internal divisions; the first one occurred where Frodo awoke with Gandalf after having been healed by Elrond (the second where the Fellowship ends). The book became a trilogy because Tolkien’s publisher wouldn’t publish it as one volume, preferring to break it into three. Coming up with names stressed JRRT out but obviously, it worked. The Director of this movie was, in general, very respectful of the source material BUT it is just an interpretation. There is only one place to get the genuine, real LOTR: the books, as Tolkien wrote them. If you are readers, get them-read them. They are treasures of English literature. If you don’t enjoy reading, well, glad you enjoyed the movie! You should also note, though, that Jackson made some significant cuts-as one does in creating a screenplay-and a few alterations which I and others find objectionable. But such is life. This is Jackson’s interpretation, and as I noted the perfect version is Tolkien’s-and in the reader’s imagination. The Hobbit took place 80 years prior to the events in the LOTR. It is Bilbo’s story-and beyond that, I’d be spoiling it so enough said. However, there are two things to know about The Hobbit. First, it is a children’s story written to be enjoyed by both children and adults. And, depending on age, can be read aloud to children. That should not put you off! But where the LOTR is high fantasy, The Hobbit is a bit more homey, less sophisticated in its perspective. Second, where Jackson was respectful of the source material in the LOTR he showed no such constraints with The Hobbit-in fact, it strayed so far afield at times it ought to have listed coauthors. That isn’t a good thing. The first movie isn’t terrible; beside an inappropriate insertion of a LOTR call-forward (?), there is a massive insertion of created material towards the end-otherwise it remained pretty true to the book. The other two movies did manage to tell the story in the books but that is in between created storylines that many (myself included) find out of place and kinda gross exaggerations (both meanings of gross apply). I do not recommend the movies-but opinions vary; I’m part of an unofficial community of Tolkien nerds who have read/studied nearly two dozen volumes of notes, fragments, partially written stories, and so on that Tolkien’s son (and muse, confidante, writing “helper,” Cristopher) posthumously published. We’ve had decades to pick over what has come to be known as the legendarium-the hyperlink site I referenced in my previous comment is a more organized Tolkien Fan site, with official standing and some goodies as a result. Anyway, our tolerance for re-writing Tolkien’s story by addition, deletion or alteration is pretty small. Because it was intelligent and thoughtful and the acting was so good I found The LOTR acceptable-not every Tolkien nerd does. The Hobbit is way over the line… But I offer the above comments so you can better understand a division that exists in your audience, let you know a resource exists within that audience to answer questions you may have-the back-story is very deep and rich, like an actual history spanning more than 6000 years. Last tidbit. Tolkien was born and grew up in S. Africa of ex-pat English parents, was raised by a single mother until her death while he was still young at which time his care was undertaken by a Catholic boarding School. He moved to England after graduation, fought in WW I (during which the famous opening lines of The Hobbit were written); that war-time experience is credited for his vivid battle scenes. He was a devout Catholic in a primarily Protestant (Church of England) country, and the driving interest in his writing fiction was his love of inventing languages-he needed people to speak those languages, and stories/histories for those people to live…
When I was in college there was a class on themes of nature in fantasy literature and I wish I could have taken it. Sauron having them rip up all the trees as one of his first acts of warmaking is such a symbolic moment.
Galadriel's life was marked by much loss & tragedy part 1. She lost many family members, including her brothers Aegnor & Angrod, who died in the War of Wrath, a great conflict between the forces of the Valar and Morgoth. She also lost her grandfather, Finwë, who was slain by Morgoth by a terrible & unholy lighting strike that left his body broken but one can imagine he was just as mighty as Fëanor by being the FATHER, Morgoth himself being responsible for the deaths of her uncles Fëanor (& Fingolfin quite a bit later on when he faced off one on one with Morgoth/Melkor and left the fallen Valar 7 permanent wounds which left him eternally limp to the point of being mocked by his generals and the like indefinitely which left Morgoth in intense pain forever!) Fëanor was Galadriel's half-uncle, as he was the son of Finwë by his first wife Míriel. Fëanor's sons were therefore Galadriel's first cousins. Most of Fëanor's sons died in the wars that followed the theft of the Silmarils, including the tragic deaths of Celegorm & Curufin, who were slain by their own cousin, Lúthien's son Dior. Galadriel also lost her relative Aredhel, who was her cousin, & Aredhel’s brother; king Turgon of the hidden kingdom of Gondolin. These losses weighed heavily on Galadriel, but she remained strong and resolute in the face of adversity. Fëanor's death was a tragic event that marked the beginning of the First Age of Middle-earth. After Morgoth stole the three Silmarils, Fëanor swore an oath to retrieve them, even if it meant going to war with the Valar themselves. Fëanor led the Ñoldor in their rebellion against the Valar, & he and his sons played a significant role in the events that followed. Fëanor was eventually slain by Balrogs, demonic creatures who served Morgoth, during the flight of the Ñoldor from Middle-earth. His death marked the end of an era, & his legacy continued to be felt in Middle-earth for many ages to come. Fingolfin's death was no less tragic. He challenged Morgoth to single combat & fought valiantly against him, but he was ultimately slain by the Dark Lord. His death inspired many to rise up against Morgoth, & his legacy continued to inspire the people of Middle-earth for many ages to come. Despite the many losses she suffered, Galadriel remained a powerful and influential figure in Middle-earth, & her wisdom & knowledge continued to be sought after by many. Galadriel's history is rich & complex, & she played a significant role in the events of Middle-earth. She was born in the Undying Lands before the creation of the sun and moon, and she was a member of the Noldor, one of the three Elven races. Galadriel's family, the House of Finarfin, was closely connected to the Vanyar, the first of the three Elven races to journey to the Undying Lands. Galadriel's grandmother, Indis, was a Vanya, and her mother, Eärwen, was a Teleri princess who married Finarfin. Galadriel's father & brothers participated in the rebellion of the Noldor against the Valar, which resulted in the exile of the Noldor from the Undying Lands. Galadriel, however, did not participate in the horrifying kinslaying, protecting her mothers people from Fëanor’s onslaught at Alqualondë instead, - returning in the Undying Lands for a while longer before reuniting with her people still travelling the Helcaraxë. As I recall her father was with the others that returned to Valinor at the Doom Of Mandos which in basic terms set a warning prophesy sort of thing where if they left Valinor it’d cause a domino effect throughout time etc. but Fëanor’s fire burned inside and he had a HUGE bone to pick with Morgoth. So that’s what was mainly leading him there but it was several years long of travel on what was called the Helcaraxë (grinding ice wastes) Galadriel did end up there but through other means as her way to middle earth let’s just say lead her to there where she sort of rendezvoused with her family and helped lead her people to middle earth. Many died on this trip of HARSH conditions.). During the Third Age, Galadriel played a key role in the events leading up to the War of the Ring. She helped the Fellowship of the Ring by giving them gifts, advice, and guidance, and she played a significant role in the defeat of Sauron. (She played a bigger role than shown in the movies) Galadriel possessed many magical abilities, including the power to read minds, the ability to communicate telepathically, & the power to cast spells but above all was her ability to project herself across large distances(not teleporting, think more like a sort of mental and spiritual projection similar to astral travel) She was also renowned for her beauty & grace, and her wisdom and knowledge were highly respected by the Free Peoples of Middle-earth. Overall, Galadriel's long life and rich history make her one of the most intriguing and powerful characters in J.R.R. Tolkien's Middle-earth legendarium. Galadriel is one of the oldest and most powerful beings of the Elven race left in middle earth. According to Tolkien's writings, Galadriel was born in Tirion in the Undying Lands(which means untouched By Morgoth’s Ring where he poured his essence and malice into the earth itself. Middle Earth. Not all of Eä(the world), also known as Aman, which existed before the creation of the sun and moon. And this landmass used to be closer to middle earth and existed long before Middle Earth became what it was as a landmass in itself due to the reshaping of the world a few times due to Valar’s battles with Melkor along with natural shifts over the millions of years etc. The creation of the sun and moon occurred after the Two Trees of Valinor, which provided light to the world, were destroyed. This event, known as the Darkening of Valinor, marked the end of the First Age of Middle-earth. Based on Tolkien's timeline, the events of the First Age occurred approximately 5,000 years before the start of the Second Age. The Second Age lasted for approximately 3,441 years, and the Third Age lasted for approximately 3,019 years. Therefore, if Galadriel was born in the Undying Lands before the creation of the sun & moon, it is estimated that she would be at least 25,000 years old by the end of the Third Age, which is when the events of The Lord of the Rings take place. This calculation is based on the assumption that Galadriel was born before the start of the First Age and that she has lived through all three ages, which is supported by Tolkien's writings. Most important thing here is about Galadriel’s eldest brother Finrod: Finrod Felagund, also known as Findaráto, was a noble elf of rarer mixed heritage just like his younger sister & brothers, the Noldor/Vanyar/Teleri renowned for his wisdom and fairness but also his valiance. He was the eldest son of Finarfin, one of the three sons of Finwë who was the High King of the Noldor. Finrod played a crucial role in the events that led to the creation of Númenor. When the Valar summoned the Noldor to return to Valinor, Finrod and his companions chose to stay in Middle-earth and establish their own kingdoms. During their travels, they encountered the Edain, a group of mortal Men who were the mightiest of them all and the elves considered them equals!!! They became friendly and open to the elves. Finrod was particularly impressed by their courage and loyalty, and he became the first elf to befriend them. As time passed, Finrod & the 3 main Houses Of The Edain formed a close bond. Teaching them many things about the world and the lore of the elves. He also helped them in their struggles against the dark forces of Morgoth since even before meeting the elves. The Edain pledged their allegiance to the elves and fought alongside them in many battles. He even learned their language due to his way of reading hearts and minds which essentially aided hugely in his learning how their language worked etcetera. Eventually, the deeds of Finrod and the Edain were recounted in the halls of the Valar, and the Valar took pity on the mortal Men. They decided to give them a gift, and thus Númenor was created, a great island kingdom in the middle of the sea, where Men could live in peace and prosperity. - As for Finrod Felagund, [Galadriel’s Eldest Brother], he did not live to see the rise of Númenor, for he perished in a battle against a werewolf in the dungeons of Tol-in-Gaurhoth, also known as Sauron's Isle. Protecting Beren, saving his life by breaking free from his own chains to kill that same werewolf with his bare hands and teeth. Facing off with Sauron before that. He and Beren were forced to watch the elvish companions who were most loyal to Finrod get ripped apart by said werewolves - He was a true friend to the first of mankind to show up in middle earth, the Edain, and played a key role in the creation of Númenor. He was also close to his sister Galadriel, and together they shared many adventures and battles. (I’ll share the significance of Elrond’s father which is the main character in how his deeds lead to the assistance from Valinor to help insurmountable odds and circumstances regarding Morgoth to take his physical form out of the picture for good in what’s called the War Of Wrath which was 80 years long nonstop. But I’ll go into it more when I share about Elrond in a different comment which I may save for the second movie or if you want I can post it below this video!) In the end, Finrod's legacy lived on through his deeds and his influence on the fate of Middle-earth. His noble example inspired many, including Aragorn, who was born centuries later & gave him the chance to claim the throne of Gondor & Arnor/Anor as a descendant of the line of Elronds Twin brother who was first king Of Númenor and started the line of the Faithful Númenoreans.
Bilbo Walking Song: “Roads go ever ever on, Over rock and under tree, By caves where never sun has shone, By streams that never find the sea; Over snow by winter sown, And through the merry flowers of June,Over grass and over stone, And under mountains in the moon. Roads go ever ever on Under cloud and under star, Yet feet that wandering have gone Turn at last to home afar. Eyes that fire and sword have seen And horror in the halls of stone Look at last on meadows green And trees and hills they long have known” The original version of the song is recited by Bilbo in the last chapter of The Hobbit, at the end of his journey back to the Shire. Coming to the top of a rise he sees his home in the distance, and stops and essentially sings what I shared above! There are three versions of this walking song in The Lord of the Rings. The first is sung by Bilbo when he leaves the Shire and is setting off to visit Rivendell: “The Road goes ever on and on, Down from the door where it began. Now far ahead the Road has gone, And I must follow, if I can, Pursuing it with eager feet, Until it joins some larger way Where many paths and errands meet. And whither then? I cannot say.” The second version is identical except for changing the word "eager" to "weary" in the fifth line. It is spoken aloud, slowly, by Frodo, as he and his companions pause on their way to Crickhollow, looking beyond to lands that some of them have never seen before. The third version is spoken by Bilbo in Rivendell after the hobbits have returned from their journey. Bilbo is now an old, sleepy hobbit, who murmurs the verse and then falls asleep. “The Road goes ever on and on Out from the door where it began. Now far ahead the Road has gone, Let others follow it who can! Let them a journey new begin, But I at last with weary feet Will turn towards the lighted inn, My evening-rest and sleep to meet.” 1977: The Hobbit (1977 film): Sections of the poem are sung during the trip through Mirkwood. It appears on the soundtrack titled "Roads". 1980: The Return of the King (1980 film): A song inspired by the poem is sung at the end of the film called "Roads Go Ever, Ever On". 1981: The Lord of the Rings (1981 radio series): Bilbo sings the song as he leaves Bag End. It is sung by John Le Mesurier to a tune by Stephen Oliver. 1997: An Evening in Rivendell: The Tolkien Ensemble adapted an original melody to the song, composed by Caspar Reiff. 2001: The Lord of the Rings: The Fellowship of the Ring: Parts of the song are sung by Gandalf in his first appearance, and also by Bilbo as he leaves Bag End. 2006: The Lord of the Rings Musical: The poem is the basis of the song "The Road Goes On" sung by Sam, Frodo, Merry, and Pippin in the first act. 2014: The Hobbit: The Battle of the Five Armies: Lines of the poem partially make up the lyrics of The Last Goodbye, performed by Billy Boyd(Pippin) for the credits of the film. This is just stuff to know when you see the next films. Maybe seeing this will spark something you read here or in other people’s comments via future reactions to the other 2 films as well as the 3 The Hobbit movies!
Happy to see you liking the music, and it is amazing. Everything has a theme. All nations, places, characters and so on. And all are just perfect! Aragorn wore Boromirs wristguards after his death if you watch closely. ALSO remember at the end of this one Frodo to Sam "Im glad you are with me." for the end of third film. Very true words and i wont say more.
Galadriel’s Gift To Gimli part 2 - ever wondered how old Galadriel is during the War of the Ring? I have looked in many different sources and depending on where you look, she’s anywhere from 17,000-20,000 elf-years old. 6,000 seems too young as it would make her close in age to Elrond, who I know is much younger than her even though he’s 6000-8000 by the third age, which wouldn’t make sense for her at all even if she was (“690 elf-years older” as some kept repeating on the internet making 6960!)As she was around long before Elrond was even born and time was experience differently to say the LEAST as there is a lot to go into on that subject lol.) She was born during the Years of the Trees & back then the years were something like 9X longer than a solar year so I understand the math is hard, especially since she isn’t given an exact birth year. But it is said that Finarfin, her father, was born in Y.T. 1230, so I would assume she was born sometime within 1000 years of then (being generous). Basically, I’m wondering what the most accurate range is for her age during the events of Lord of the Rings. I’ll also add that Galadriel is was around before the ents even existed (of which Treebeard is 15,000 years old so she’s OLDER than Treebeard/Fangorn) or very close to when they were “created” by Yavannah and probably had much knowledge to do with such things and or direct knowledge of what happened. Probably through an early prototype of her mirror or simply another dream that made her long for middle earth all over again ontop of the yearning she already had to go there and explore. Nothing to do with Fëanor’s oath and all that jazz. (So by this current era in HUMAN solar years she’s like. 150,000 to 180,000 years old. Now that makes more sense if she’s going to be older than the sun and moon. Tolkien was always reiterating his manuscripts with the growing scientific discoveries.) though Treebeard/Fangorn in the deeper writings is older than Galadriel as he was one of first brought into life by Yavanna to help protect nature while it was put into enhanced hibernation by Yavanna to protect them from Morgoth’s Ring (the poisoning of the world itself which caused it to bleed its magic away over the ages called The Long Defeat by the elves.) Just going from the Appendices (and maybe Silmarillion) she would have to be at least 9000+ years older than Elrond, Elrond was born near the end of the First Age, Galadriel was adult before the destruction of the Trees. Actually, more than that: I just checked, and the Second Age ended in SA 3441. So an elf born literally at the end of the First Age (FA 590) is 3441+3018 = 6459 years old when Frodo leaves for Rivendell. Elrond was born in FA 532, so adds 58 years to get 6517. Elves are mature at 100, so Galadriel adds at leas 632 to Elrond's age, to be at least 7149, and possibly quite a bit more (as attested by other comments.) One fic had Maglor(Elrond’s Adoptive Father, Maedhros was also adoptive father alongside Maglor, they were the eldest sons of Fëanor) - One fic had as much older than Galadriel; I wondered how we knew, and it was pointed out to me that Maglor was the second oldest son of the first son of Finwë, while Galadriel is the youngest child of the third son of Finwë. So, yeah. Note that the second age was the LONGEST and again time was experienced very differently back then too aside from the internal clock of elves working very differently, she’s definitely older as far as the world and the other beings that age far faster around her. I also remind you all that she’s older than the sun and the moon and witnessed & most likely even helped in the Valar’s crafting what would be the vessels of the last fruit & flower of the two trees of Valinor. She was the most involved with learning everything possible from them and it was stated that she learned all there was to learn from ALL of the Valar that they could teach and she mastered all at a deep level. (Wow hey?) She’s 25th generation from Tata one of the elven forefathers to wake to the stars. Their birth was rather shrouded in mist. Only those of her grandfathers ilk have a chance of knowing the origins a bit better as they are closer to that culture that stemmed from the beginning. The Years of the Trees were the second of the three great time periods in Arda that followed the Years of the Lamps and preceded the Years of the Sun&Moon. They were known to be comprised of several Ages and lasted in total around 1500 Valian Years or 14,373 solar years. Time flowed differently back then and time flowed differently within them too for the elves live as long as the world does. Epic hey?❤❤ The Dúnedain said that Galadriel’s height was two rangar, or "man-high" - some 6 feet 4 inches (193 cm). However, Galadriel's most striking feature was her beautiful long silver-golden hair. The Elves of Tirion said it captured the radiance of the Two Trees Laurelin and Telperion themselves. Galadriel was said to be the tallest female in Middle Earth, at 6'4”. But then Thingol was the tallest elf ever to live, and he's estimated to be almost 9' (274 cm) Thingol was also a very very prominent figure within the Silmarillion and other books. He’s the great ancestor of Elrond+Arwen and through Aragorn being directly but distantly related to Elronds Twin Brother Elros it makes him loosely connected to Thingol as well. Let’s just say he died a tragic death long long ago. In a continent that doesn’t exist anymore. The events I spoke of in my earlier story of Elrond about his fathers deeds, which lead to the Valar helping with putting a Stop to Morgoth for good so to say and that War Of Wrath lasted 80 years straight and it left the landmass torn asunder from the clash of gods and the holy host of Vanyar elves that were closest to the Valar than all other elves so you can imagine what a bunch of mighty elves men and Maiar fighting a bunch of fowl creatures and beings for 80 years would do to a continent. It all fell into the sea. Galadriel barely made it over the mountain before that part of the story officially broke out.
Prepare to have over 1000k commenters explaining everything to you in detail... I would be one of those commenters, but I know everyone else has got it taken care of.
I love the fact that you can watch the extended versions of these, and at the end, have no clue what was added extra. Everything feels so important and relevant
Here is why. Peter Jackson wanted people to see the extended (uncut) versions in the theatres, but Harvey Weinstein stopped him. In fact, Harvey wanted just ONE movie in the threatres, not a trilogy. 5 years of court proceedings - and the 'harvey weinstein orc" in return of the king (made at Jackson's specific direction) was the result. Too many people don’t realize they are arguing in favour of a version of this movies that was only shown in theatres because of legal reasons - not for artistic reasons. - Peter Jackson’s passion project team was forced to not show their full content as it would cut into what the cinema CEOs literally called the theatrical edition to get more screen time in and more mulla for themselves. It’s a such a nasty business. 80 percent true that money be the root of all evil. It’s the reason the real pumped out the EE as fast as possible in DVD format before the second and third film hit theatres to get back at Harvey Weinstein, again, they wanted people to see the whole movie which invites feelings of completion in one’s heart. But he just announced that’s he found 1300 hours worth of footage from a warehouse he finally got access to so we will see more specially made super extended edition cinema extravaganzas that no cinema would pass on the opportunity to ride on his coattails again. The EE wasn’t just for fans. He literally was adapting the books to film as honestly as possible. the DVD documentaries showed that they didn’t want to cut anything. And weaselled around things to create the EE. (EE is extended edition by the way! ❤️). Without the extended for the next two films I always say “Good luck missing the Boromir backstory. Good luck explaining why the cloak turns into a rock. Good luck explaining the elves that had explained their current situation since the first film. It all ties together good luck skipping the gift scene with Galadriel and Celeborn and the extra scenes between Aragorn and Celeborn & Galadriel to Aragorn!” It’s seriously needed for the film worldbuilding and heightening the stakes. Also, I’d rather have faith people have the emotional and intellectual IQ high enoug to understand it or shall we have changed the title to something else same as how JK was forced to change the title in America to sorcerers stone instead of PHILOSPHER as Americans don’t even know what a Philospher is anymore these days which is sad. Relating to that: Tolkien was very sad about people losing connection to their past and heritage etc!
Trilogy The Lord Of The Ring Extended Edition: (1) The Felloship Of The Ring Extended Edition (2) The Two Tower Extended Edition (3) The Return Of The King Extended Edition Trilogy The Hobbit Extended Edition Of The Adventures Of Bilbo Baggin: (1) An Unexpected Journey Extended Edition (2) The Desolation Of Smaug Extended Edition (3) The Battle Five Armie Extended Edition
The extended edition of the LoTR movies list the entire membership of the official fan club in the credits; that's in part why the credits are so long.
That and 3000 people who were involved to make this all happen. Day in and day out. The scholars and so forth. And we the people on the forum making sure Arwen didn’t get put into helms deep for example
Moths are sacred to the elves. As well as it was contested to Radagast The Brown Wizard who was the champion sent to middle earth by Yavannah (Goddess of Nature itself and who was responsible for creating and nuturing all life, even her song created the two trees of Valinor which predated the sun and moon and to keep it simple acted in the stead of sun and moon. ) with who we know now as Gandalf and Saruman long ago at the beginning of the first age. Gandalf was meant to be the leader but he kept denying the leadership role and so Saruman was given this role for he was fully successful against Sauron for a long time even to this day of the third age. Gandalf openly stated his fear for Sauron (Mairon, his true name.) Olórin is that for Gandalf, Aiwendil for Radagast and Curumo for Saruman.
It was awesome to watch you. You are not the first channel I am watching the first time reaction of. But I really liked it. Maybe because you seemed really didn't know so much about it. It seems, you enjoyed the same scenes I love. I will check out your other reactions now.
Of all the years I've watched Lord of the Rings from childhood to adulthood to then watching The Hobbits and then re-watching both on multiple occasions, how have I not connected the dots of Gandalf saying that he left a little nudge on Bilbo's door which led him on an adventure and him saying that Bilbo received a chainmail from Thorin before The Hobbits was even dreamt of being created??? I feel a bit slow ngl. Boromir indeed redeemed himself after fighting so valiantly to save the Hobbits. The interaction between Aragorn and him as laid there dying have always been a beautiful scene to me, always made me felt sad and as if I was one of their brethren.
the normal version was in theatres, extended was only on box set. You may not have realised because the cues are quite well disguised in this film but boromir's last words 'my king' are quite a signficant end to his character arc.
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It’s not slightly different. The eye is metaphorical in the books. Sauron absolutely has a body at this point. Though I admit that the eye visual is effective for purposes of the movies.
@@meltona2 I kinda prefer the idea that even without his body, Sauron is this powerful and influential. It makes the prospect of him getting the ring back even scarier.
4:06 Hobbits are a type of creature that Tolkien, who wrote the books, invented. They are short like dwarves, but not as muscular or stout. They go barefoot as their soles grow thick, leathery soles on them. They tend to be fat rather than lean, living simply, with no complicated machinery.
"The Hobbit" was the first book where Tolkien introduced Hobbits. He had already been writing about Middle Earth in a manuscript for "The Book of Lost Tales". But The Hobbit was the first foray into the story of the one ring. He intended this, as well as LOTR to be one large work. His publisher had to convince him to break LOTR up into three volumes.
"No, we still got 30 minutes."
"30 minutes of credits?"
yep
The movie earned it ngl
the immediate karma of credits 😂
The reason for that is because in the credits they list the members of the Lord of the Rings fanclub, people who paid to be in the fan club to help support the movie, while getting some cool art and a subscription to a magazine about the making of the film. I know because I was a member.
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Huh, thanks for your contribution then, I'm sure it must have helped with this first movie because from what I hear the studio did not have that much faith in it before it became a success.
The biggest thing to remember is the fact that the ring IS its own character. It influences, corrupts, etc. As Gandalf says, it has awoken and heard its master’s call. It WANTS to be found!
A lot of people miss when Bilbo drops the ring that it doesn’t bounce at all. It legit falls with a thud and sits there
yeah they put a magnet in the floor to accomplish the effect.
This isn't for a story reason, but fun fact, in the scene where frodo drops the ring on caradras and Boromir picks it up, it would have been too hard to get a close-up of the ring without blurring the background a bunch and making the rack focus impossible. So they used a giant-scale ring to give the illusion of an ultra-close up, while maintaining a wider focus.
If you interviewed the Ring after the events of the trilogy he'd go: "About Gollum, now I'd been in a river for 2000 years and I was desperate at the time: but in retrospect, whoever coined the phrase 'don't stick your dick in crazy' might have been on to something."
Yeah, the ring isn't just a temptation, it is a tempter. It whispers directly into your brain, promising anything you might want, threatening anything you might fear. It's potential for corruption cannot be understated.
calling it its own character is abit of a stretch, by that logic all the wands in harry potter are their own characters.
while it is true the ring has a will, its not really his OWN will, its an extension of sauron and his will
@@vhaelen326 The ring bends to Sauron's will, yes, but it has its own distinct from him. It recognises only Sauron as its true master, and manipulates people who use it to get back to him. It can cause people to become reliant on it and then - as if by bad luck - fall off or otherwise not be to hand. As you see with Isildur.
J.K. Rowling wasn't even born, when Tolkien wrote his books. He's the father of all modern fantasy. There won't be any Harry Potter, GoT or tons of computer games without LotR. They are all deeply inspired from Tolkiens world.
I highly recommend to watch the extended versions, otherwise you will miss some stuff.
You're on a journey now you'll never forget. Have fun, I'm sure you will.
good news! they appear to be watching the extended version
Copied. Not inspired.
@@im-gi2pg nope
@@im-gi2pg Incorrect
@@im-gi2pg Do you like being wrong as a hobby, or are you trying to go pro?
An interesting fact- In the scene where the Uruk-Hai throws Aragorn's dagger at him that dagger was real! The actor was supposed to throw it far to Aragorn's left and a separate scene with him throwing a rubber dagger at Aragorn would be inserted in post production. When the Actor threw the real dagger towards Aragorn , the forehead piece of his makeup/costume slipped over his' eyes and he threw it directly at Viggo! Viggo actually blocked it with his sword.! Peter Jackson was so impressed that they never filmed the rubber dagger scene and used the actual take!
I remember the story was that he was supposed to chuck it far too the side of him and they would use a camera trick to make it seem closer than it was, but he missed and threw it right at him, but he managed to block it with the sword.
59:44 "We do not mess with you Elves."
The Elves who made those doors were friends with the Dwarves of Khazad-dûm (AKA "Dwarrowdelf") and visited them often.
The Extended Editions were created by Peter Jackson for the fans and to tell a more full story. He decided on the Theatrical Versions for initial release, because he thought that nearly 4 hours was too long for people to be "out".
But the Extended Editions are the best version of all the movies!
Well done!
No they're not. The theatricals are the best version of the movies.
The theatrical cuts are the preferred versions of Jackson.
@@SubterrelProspector They're the better versions too.
The extended version explains Boromir’s mission
@@gregorypeck3023 His mission is irrelevant.
A lot of people fail to understand just how big the age difference of some of these characters really is. Legolas is around 3000 years old, Galadriel around 8000, and Gandalf is estimated at around 55,000 years old.
By lore Galadriel is so old, when the Sun first rose she was a fully grown warrior backpacking through the in-universe equivalent of the Artic.
With Gandalf, I find it difficult to assign age because he's not born and as a spirit created before even the universe, but he doesn't go to Middle Earth until after the first defeat of Sauron. He's not lived history the way someone like Galadriel has - or another Maiar like Sauron. If the Balrog had stopped for a chat, Galadriel and Sauron would "oh yeah that one guys niece and the fucking nerd" and Gandalf would be "never heard of you, buddy".
@@oq1106I always think that he was sent to middle earth before as someone else for other purpose. But only lived as Gandalf after the second age.
you watched a shit Show named Rings of Power?
Galadriel's history is well-established in the Silmarillion. She did, in fact, backpack across the Arctic in the time between the destruction of the Two Trees and the first rising of the sun. Rings of Power is totally irrelevant to this.
According to the appendixes, an exact year is given for when the Wizards arrive in Middle Earth at the Grey Havens "in the form of " old men. Since they were not "Wizards" before this and were in fact completely different beings, I accept this as the date of their birth. In which case Gandalf walked the roads of Middle Earth for about 2,000 years before the events in The Lord of the Rings takes place.
"That was a huge cake."
The cake at Bilbo's party was in fact so big that it actually caught on fire while they were filming Bilbo's speech. You can see the light of the fire to the side while Bilbo is speaking. These films have dozens or more unscripted moments that were left in to add realism. For example, Ian McKellen (Gandalf) really did hit his head when Gandalf first enters Bilbo's house.
42:56 Throwing Isildur into the volcano would solve the ring problem, but an elven general murdering the king of Gondor would just replace one huge mess with another.
The ring would immediately capture the will of Elrond the moment he tried to kill Isildur to get it. You just have to see what it did to Smeagol.
Plus it would have been kinslaying.
@@rachelmap100 kins laying is what aragorn does with arwen
@@ebreshea1337I mean, they’re related so far back, if we worried about being with someone we’re so lightly genetically related too, we’d never sleep with anyone. It’s been, like, countless generations of men since Elrond and his brother choose their separate fates
AKA Elrond’s kindred connected to his twin brother Elros. Ellerosë
The look you guys made when the credits showed, like " that's it?". Precioussssss!
I almost spat out my coffee at the end with the credits. Those 30 minutes were an homage and thank you to all the fanclubs, communities, and supporters of Tolkien's work and the movie project while it was being made. Without the love and support of the fans, the most iconic fantasy trilogy ever would not have been made.
Anyway, every movie has the Extended Edition and the Theatrical Edition. Kind of self explanatory. Back then, people wouldn't want to sit around for 3-4 hours for a single movie in theatres like we would for MCU's Infinity War/Endgame.
Lmao are you really saying that people wouldn’t watch 3-4 hours of LOTR (even though they did) but they would for Marvel? Are you stupid man? The succes of LOTR is beyond that og Marvel
Thank you for your lively reaction and I hope you get a lot from the next two films. Harry Potter was written for children which is why it is so easy to read and watch. LotR was written for adults and demands that you think. Tolkien was born in 1892, fought in the trenches of WWI, became an Oxford professor of Literature and Linguistics and began to write his Middle-earth stories in the 1930s. The Hobbit, like HP, was also written for children but, with LotR, he upped his game. He became the father of modern fantasy and many writers, including George R R Martin who wrote Game of Thrones, thank him for his inspiration. Rowling, the author of HP, uses many of Tolkien's ideas, but, sadly, never once acknowledges this. Peter Jackson and his team understood Tolkien's work and did a marvellous job of translating LotR from book to screen. The cinematography, the score, the acting - everything, in fact - are all deserving of praise and it's not surprising that the films won so many Oscars.
Really glad you guys are watching this! Awesome reaction!
Alot of people don't understand boromir that well, but he is arguably the most honorable and one of the strongest people in the fellowship. The ring basically corrupts strength and wants. Boromir was so weak to the ring cause his strength and deep need to protect his people that the ring basically made him think he NEEDED the ring to do it. Also why gandalf never once dared touch the ring, cause through his power as a wizard it would destroy and corrupt him immediately. And remember that the ring is so powerful that wizards and elves that's basically demigods dare not even touch it or be near it.
And boromir always tought first of the hobbits and always argued for what route would be best and safest for them. And even laid down his life for them in the end. A true warrior.
Rest in peace Boromir the second, High Warden of the White Tower and captain-general of Gondor.❤
Love Boromir too, but we can hardly say he is the most honorable since we have Aragorn, Legolas, Gandalf, Sam and Gimli in the fellowship. Also, his brother Faramir is extremely honorable and wise in the books. There are many differences between books and movies, but one I dislike the most is the way they depict Faramir. One od my favorite characters, and Tolkien said that he identifies with him more than with any other character in his masterpiece. ❤
@polypandora1943 faramir always been one of my favourites since I was a kid! And was so happy when he and eowyn held hands and leaned on eachother cause, fuck me that man needed some love in his life 🤣 My all time favourite however is ofc Gimli son of Glóin, lord of the glittering caves! And after him we got Sam Samwise the brave!❤️
@@polypandora1943 True but note that Aragorn, Gimli, Legolas, and Gandalf are much older (Aragorn is probably 50 years older, and the others much much more) so their perception of the actual danger that the ring represents can only be much more acute than and different from Boromir's. Sam being a hobbit has no potential for great ambitions that great warriors can have.
Boromir the Misunderstood. There's also a certain Captain Underrated back in Gondor
@@foolofatook9867 fool of a took!
Book readers know how difficult it is to bring that book to the screen and do it justice. Jackson did a phenomenal job and created one the best and most loved trilogies in movie history. I'll never forget watching this thing in an absolutely packed movie theatre on release. Nice reaction guys.
They made this trilogy all at once. It took approximately 2 years. You should watch the extended versions for the extra lore/scenes.
The appendices should honestly be included in "required watching" of the trilogy!
They're watching the extended. 😂
@@MorgothsBalrog confirmed. I honestly prefer the theatrical for fellowship tho. They mention bilbo's mithril shirt AGAIN right before the fight with the cave troll in extended. In the theatrical, they haven't mentioned it since Rivendell so youve had more time to forget.
@@ebreshea1337 that doesn't make any sense. You've already seen the movie, so you already know he's wearing it.😂😂😂
@@MorgothsBalrog My point is that for first watchers, the extended edition kind of spoils that frodo is not really dead after being stabbed by the cave troll.
Edit: even just for my own personal enjoyment, I kinda cringe at that line. It seems almost like a wink/nod at the audience or something. And while other movies have some important scenes that were cut about boromir, or saruman, fellowship doesn't really have much that stands out as being "lost" in the theatrical.
The song Aragorn sings has huge importance! Here is the full version: “The leaves were long, the grass was green, The hemlock-umbels tall and fair, And in the glade a light was seen; Of stars in shadow shimmering, Tinnúviel was dancing there, To music of a pipe unseen
And light of stars was in her hair
And in her raiment glimmering
There Beren came from mountains cold; And lost he wandered under leaves; And where the Elven-river rolled. He walked alone and sorrowing. He peered between the hemlock-leaves; And saw in wonder flowers of gold
Upon her mantle and her sleeves
And her hair like shadow following
Enchantment healed his weary feet
That over hills were doomed to roam
And forth he hastened, strong and fleet
And grasped at moonbeams glistening
Through woven woods in Elvenhome
She lightly fled on dancing feet
And left him lonely still to roam
In the silent forest listening
He heard there oft the flying sound
Of feet as light as linden-leaves
Or music welling underground
In hidden hollows quavering
Now withered lay the hemlock-sheaves
And one by one with sighing sound
Whispering fell the beachen leaves
In the wintry woodland wavering
He sought her ever, wandering far
Where leaves of years were thickly strewn
By light of moon and ray of star
In frosty heavens shivering
Her mantle glinted in the moon
As on a hill-top high and far
She danced, and at her feet was strewn
A mist of silver quivering
When winter passed, she came again
And her song released the sudden spring,
Like rising lark, and falling rain
And melting water bubbling
He saw the elven-flowers spring
About her feet, and healed again
He longed by her to dance and sing
Upon the grass untroubling
Again she fled, but swift he came
Tinnúviel ! , Tinnúviel !
He called her by her elvish name
And there she halted listening
One moment stood she, and a spell
His voice laid on her: Beren came
And doom fell on Tinúviel
That in his arms lay glistening
As Beren looked into her eyes
Within the shadows of her hair
The trembling starlight of the skies
He saw there mirrored shimmering
Tinnúviel the elven-fair
Immortal maiden elven-wise
About him cast her shadowy hair
And arms like silver glimmering
Long was the way that fate them bore
O'er stony mountains cold and grey
Through halls of ireon and darkling door,
And woods of nightshade morrowless
The Sundering Seas between them lay
And yet at last they met once more
And long ago they passed away
In the forest singing sorrowless”
The true elvish version is far greater and so full of beauty & nuanced mournful sadness that’s break the hearts of mortals from its beauty and sadness so the true song has been sort of taboo and the mannish tongues that retell it is stated to only be a shadow beneath the tree of the true story!
(A clip of it is in the original definitive version though. Viggo Mortenson who plays Aragorn designed the melody and style himself and wished it to sound Celtic in nature.)
I have loved this poem for more than 50 years - thanks for sharing :)
Tolkien’s work has always been my first love though I have found other authors inspired by his works - my username is from one of them…
At 8:25, Otho Sackville-Baggins is Bilbo's closest living relative, and he would have inherited Bilbo's hobbit-hole if Bilbo hadn't adopted Frodo as his heir 12 years previously. Otho and Lobelia are dreadful neighbors. Also, Hobbits live a bit longer than Men; Tolkien writes that Hobbits live to 100 as often as not. Gandalf congratulates Bilbo on reaching eleventy-one at their first meeting, and he gives him a hard look. For Bilbo still looks as young as he did when he first found the Ring, sixty years previously. Something is not right...
Honestly, Tolkien giving hobbits a bit extra life expectancy was accidentially really in line with the fact that small people tend to live a little longer than tall people and that a peacful, chill lifestyle of working just hard enough for a humble living also adds a couple years.
In the books, wasn't Frodo like fifty odd years old when he eventually started his journey with the Ring?
The thought of a hard look from Gandalf scares me a little, it's one of the looks where you have to find the floor really interesting.
@@Dusk.EighthLegionyeah there’s something like 20 years between Gandalf leaving and coming back. Can’t remember exact amount of years, and even then they spend months getting ready to leave bag end and fake leaving the shire.
At 30:03 you say, "I feel like there's so many names of things I'm not going to remember..." Names are the essence of Tolkien's writing style. He wasn't a professional novelist; he was an Oxford professor of philology, the study of words and languages. In his spare time, he enjoyed making up languages. His Elvish languages (and there are two major ones: Sindarin, or everyday Elvish, and Quenya, or "Elven-Latin," mostly used for names of people and places, plus several more that don't appear in the book) were the impulse that led him to write LOTR: What would a man named "Aragorn" look like? The Elven languages were constructed like real languages, with words formed from root meanings: "Mor-" = black, "-dor" = land, so "Mordor" = "Black Land" or "Land of Shadow." Take notes, if you need to, but mostly just enjoy the show.
4:29 - Faxx this entire film was shot in NZ. In Matamata, after returning to shoot The Hobbit they decided to make the set of Hobbiton permanent. Many of the houses don’t even have interiors, they are just fronts with a door.
Apparently, the Inn of the Prancing Pony (in Bree) is a working pub, if I remember correctly.
Whenever I see someone reacting to this series for the first time, I have to watch. I was there at the midnight showing of the first one in theaters. My brother made me read the books before I could watch the movies. I want to reread them too. One of the most epic stories ever told.
At 47:25, the words Gandalf is chanting in the Black Speech is the inscription on the One Ring. Tolkien writes, "The change in the wizard's voice was astounding. Suddenly it became menacing, powerful, harsh as stone. A shadow seemed to pass over the high sun, and the porch for a moment grew dark. All trembled, and the Elves stopped their ears."
One point to defend Pippin. Hobbits aren't considered adults until they turn 33. When they leave the Shire Frodo is 50, Sam 38, Merry 36 but Pippin is only 28/29. In hobbit years he's the equivalent of a human teenager. Of course he's impulsive, curious and thoughtless..even reckless.
Killing Isildur would cause a different war for the elves. There's also the fact that Elrond was distantly related to Isildur. Elrond's twin brother chose to become a mortal and Isildur was one of his descendants as is Aragorn.
Elrond was married to Galadriel and Celeborn's daughter so Galadriel is Arwen's grandmother. Galadriel is also older than heck. She's not only one of the oldest elves (if not the oldest) still in Middle Earth but the most powerful.
Galadriel is certainly not the oldest elf. Her parents are even recorded: Finarfin, prince of the Noldor, and Eärwen, princess of the Teleri. Finarfin’s parents are Finwe and Indis. Though we don’t know who Finwe’s parents are, we know that he had parents and wasn’t among the first elves. Therefore, Galadriel has at least great grandparents.
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I am not up to date on all of the lore and such but considering that Isildur was Númenórean I am not convinced that Elrond would have been capable of outright killing Isildur. Isuldur was at least equal to a great elf but also considering he cut the ring he may have been even more. Hard to say but I often wonder about that as it would not have been as simple as Elrond deciding to do something and it happening. Let me know if there is anything pointing to a pure conclusion.
@@stephenseay3878 In the books it was Gilgalad and Elendil that defeated Sauron, but both died in the process. After this Isildur cut the ring from Sauron’s finger. He was only able to do this AFTER Sauron was defeated and with the broken sword Narsil, which was a legendary sword, one of the few sharp enough to even cut it.
Also we gotta look at Elrond’s personality. He was not in authority to tell Isildur what to do, nor did he have the power. Also, it wasn’t clear to anyone what to do with the ring, though it was generally agreed that destroying it was probably the wisest decision, a point discussed in the Council of Elrond.
Third and finally, unfortunately the movies paint Isildur in a bad light. I won’t go into all the details, but Isildur actually ended up wanting to go to Elrond again to take his advice on the ring, since he was unable to dominate the ring himself and felt that it was slowly gaining control over him. The ambush you see in the movie is the scene where Isildur was actually on his way to consult Elrond about the ring. Tragically, we know the rest.
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I would more so say that hobbits can be rather naive of matters that do not concern them, as they tend to not travel far and don't know or care much for what happens outside their borders. War and dangers of these kinds are all but unknown to them, except perhaps for some stories they have heard. I would consider them adults because their brains do not seem to age/mature slower than those of humans. As I said, I more so would call them naive and unknowing. Which is why you can definitely see character growth in both Merry and Pippin as they experience the world out of their homely comforts. And yes Pippin is also a rather curious person, which certainly did not help.
@@stephenseay3878 not sure about that myself
Thank you for connecting with the characters! LOTR is very dear to so many peoples hearts. Tolkien is considered the father of the fantasy genre and without which we wouldn’t have had Harry Potter and other stories his works have inspired.
FINALLY. WE'RE HERE. enjoy guys
50:40 "I will take the Ring to Mordor."
Damn. I actually got teary-eyed at this part. I can't fathom the number of times I've seen this, yet it still bears my heart bare, for my love of fantasy.
it always hits harder when you see bormir become corrupt. he says curse you all the half lings. while when they lefft moria he was carrying frodo and saying "give them a moment for pitty sake" he is the true human arc. and its why hes my favorite character in the story, all he ever wanted was to protect everyone. redeemed in the end. beautiful
There is a great game based on the Tolkien's books with a huge and intricate world. It is a MMORPGs called: The Lord of the Rings Online. It has been around for 17 years and is still going strong. It is an open world (except for a few zones and, of course, instances). You can level in that world in many different ways, you can explore and travel endlessly, learn history, have parties or just fun. It is a living world. A few years back there were over 11,000 quests. There are more by now as they keep adding packs and expansions and new areas..
You may want to check it out after you have finished watching the films.
What a great reaction guys!! I will follow you in this entire and long journey!! This is, for me, the best cinema trilogy ever.
Finally! Was waiting for this. 😁 Hope you watch the Extended Edition of all movies.
I love how y'all immediately joined the "yeet Isildur" club lol. But honestly, I think that's part of why the One Ring is so scary: while safely away from it's influence (in the audience's case, protected by the 4th wall) the ring isn't a hugely obvious threat (until we get clued into the background music) and it's simple to imagine getting rid of it. But then in the little things, we see the weight of its power: the way it thuds when Bilbo drops it, the way it drags Frodo towards the vision of Sauron, how everyone in the council meeting can't stop staring at it, especially Boromir. Even the audience isn't immune from wanting to use its power to turn invisible during tense moments. It's the textbook example for an evil artifact for a reason.
The voice at the beginning is Galadriel - She’s older than the sun & moon, learned all from ALL the Valar (beyond angels), that was possible to be taught from them. she always knew there was more to know, to learn and more to create and had a drive to visit the homeland of her forefathers. To the hitherlands. Middle Earth. Where the elves truly were meant to live and mentor mankind for thousands of years so men could be fully ready to take the reigns in being the stewards of the world.
It's something you brought up towards the start so I thought I'd clear it up for you (no spoilers).
The One Ring is very impressionable on those that have their distinct goals and objectives and is able to manipulate those goals to its own. Gandalf is a greater being called a Maya (this isn't mentioned in the films) which is essentially a godly being, meaning his objective is to passively protect the world of Middle Earth; a tangible objective that is easily manipulated by the ring. This is why Gandalf did not want to handle the ring and also why Isildur at the start was easily manipulated as a greedy and selfish race of men.
Bilbo and Frodo are part of the Hobbit race which are very innocent and much kept to themselves with no goals but to just exist in their own lives with happiness and bliss. There's no tangible objective for the ring to openly manipulate them, especially with their innocence.
Tolkien, (The OG of all Authors) was a veteran of the First World War and many other battles such as The Battle Of Somme etc. his works of art were to give back to the England as a form of restoring lost mythologies that he himself was a master of since he was a top professor of philology at Oxford.
He did ALOT of his writing while in the trenches during WWI during small “breaks” while down in those trench forts built into the ground. And while he eldest son was in the Second World War; his Lord Of The Rings writings was strictly created above all else to give his eldest something to read while stationed wherever he was stationed.
I forgot that part. They sent letters back and forth about it all the time. He was also the one and only son that actually protected his fathers legacy and work.
A lot of his other work were put together BY his son after his father passed away.
It’s well worth to react to the documentary behind the scenes film the director and crew and cast created together as well as the interview with the son Christopher Tolkien who you get to sort of enjoy a nice indoor and outdoor chat for like what came to about 1-2 hours of wonderful footage from an era that really must not be forgotten.
His work shed a light on things like The Finnish Kalevala, Norwegian Elder Edda, The Welsh Mabinogion, The Norwegian Nibelungen, The Indian Bhagvagita & Several Irish Folklore + other Cultural things! The man also restored and translated ancient relics for the governments as one everyone trusted. Much of what’s in our dictionary come from his efforts as well.
Anytime he spoke & even posted several comments into the paper as an editorial or response to certain issues as a very involved man for the world and the environment everyone turned their head to listen to him as everyone knew his worth and respected him greatly. His works show how NOT to glorify war; shows in the films if you pay close attention while watching the next films.
Sharing what you know now via the after thoughts at the end of the second film! Remember. Extended edition. There is a lot missed out on especially in the second movie regarding Boromir backstory which there is much more in the books but the films WANTED to keep more but the cinemas and Harvey Weinstein literally harangued him into making a “theatrical cut” which is why you have two versions.
The real version and the “theatrical cut”. It was all to make more money for the company that is the theatres/cinemas.
To get more showings in per day during the year. And believe me. People were camping outside and travelling the country to watch it MORE THAN ONCE.
His creations literally lead to inspiring the most currently famous books games & movies we all literally wouldn’t have enjoyed and be touched to our souls core without him and his spiritually connected brilliance. That and he was a philologist professor at Oxford first and foremost which covers so many things.
Not just linguistic. The man was a true genius and Jack of all trades but ultimately LOVED the simple life.
The inspiration for Lord of the Rings was not any war, but author J.R.R. Tolkien's love of language. Especially Welsh, Finnish and Old English.
He lamented the loss of any true English folklore, that was wiped out after the Norman invasion of 1066, so Tolkien wrote many books on these new "legends" he came up with himself. Much of which is centered around three languages he fully developed himself. Two Elven languages and Dwarvish., Númenorean Adunaic, Black Speech(warped Numenorean and elvish)
They all have syntax, vocabularies, and a whole writing system that can be learned as the Tengwar alphabet is moreso to match with the spoken elvish rather than one to one for other country’s alphabet. Hundreds of people worldwide speak elvish fluently. Tolkien did draw upon his personal experience in the trenches of World War ONE, not Two, as inspiration for some parts, most notably, the Dead Marshes that Frodo and Sam and Gollum pass through in The Two Towers. But war was not the inspiration for the entire series.
World Of Warcraft. Skyrim, Harry Potter, Diablo, D&D, even Warhammer and so forth wouldn’t have. Existed without taking inspiration from and or completely ripping off from Tolkien. Many great documentaries to react to about him also more about him and AWESOME stuff from the hours & hours of behind the scenes documentaries from the DVDs of the movies which are also on RUclips & I can send you a playlist to react to from top to bottom on the channel called Pajasek99
Enjoyed your reaction guys, thank you - you had just enough fun with it, while still being respectful and attentive so you didn't miss any of the important dialogue and storyline.
Extended version is well worth it. please do not take the shortened version!
Theres advantages of watching both. Theres a couple of places where the enhanced version spoils a surprise that in the theatrical release increases the suspense.
@@karidrgn Peter Jackson wanted people to see the extended (uncut) versions in the theatres, but Harvey Weinstein stopped him. In fact, Harvey wanted just ONE movie in the threatres, not a trilogy. 5 years of court proceedings - and the 'harvey weinstein orc" in return of the king (made at Jackson's specific direction) was the result.
Too many people don’t realize they are arguing in favour of a version of this movies that was only shown in theatres because of legal reasons - not for artistic reasons.
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Peter Jackson’s passion project team was forced to not show their full content as it would cut into what the cinema CEOs literally called the theatrical edition to get more screen time in and more mulla for themselves. It’s a such a nasty business. 80 percent true that money be the root of all evil. It’s the reason the real pumped out the EE as fast as possible in DVD format before the second and third film hit theatres to get back at Harvey Weinstein, again, they wanted people to see the whole movie which invites feelings of completion in one’s heart.
But he just announced that’s he found 1300 hours worth of footage from a warehouse he finally got access to so we will see more specially made super extended edition cinema extravaganzas that no cinema would pass on the opportunity to ride on his coattails again.
The EE wasn’t just for fans. He literally was adapting the books to film as honestly as possible. the DVD documentaries showed that they didn’t want to cut anything. And weaselled around things to create the EE. (EE is extended edition by the way! ❤️).
Without the extended for the next two films I always say “Good luck missing the Boromir backstory. Good luck explaining why the cloak turns into a rock. Good luck explaining the elves that had explained their current situation since the first film.
It all ties together good luck skipping the gift scene with Galadriel and Celeborn and the extra scenes between Aragorn and Celeborn & Galadriel to Aragorn!”
It’s seriously needed for the film worldbuilding and heightening the stakes. Also, I’d rather have faith people have the emotional and intellectual IQ high enoug to understand it or shall we have changed the title to something else same as how JK was forced to change the title in America to sorcerers stone instead of PHILOSPHER as Americans don’t even know what a Philospher is anymore these days which is sad. Relating to that: Tolkien was very sad about people losing connection to their past and heritage etc!
@@karidrgn yeah exactly, im pretty sure all of our first time reactions werent the extended. back in 2001
@amberleaf42069 well, I'd read the books so pretty much knew the plot. The only surprises were where they added stuff not in the books like the fight between Gandalf and saruman. Which was really cool to see.
Nice reaction, there is an open world game based on the Lord of the Rings books: Lord of the Rings Online, its a MMORPG released in 2007. The graphics may not be as good as they could be with todays graphic engines, but it still has its charm as the developers put much love in the creation of the landscapes. The Shire, Rivendell, Bree every place looks beautiful. You cannot play as a member of the original fellowship, but you can create your own character as an Elf, Man, Dwarf or Hobbit and choose a character-class (Warrior, Guardian, Captain, Burglar, and so on.) for it. Not all classes are availiable for all races though. You are one of the residents of Middle-Earth who feel that something evil grows in the lands and decided to do something about it. Your character can join a kinship (like a clan), choose a backstory for your character (strenghts, weaknesses) and many people really do play their roles like in a play or film. It is possible to play solo, but it is more fun to play in groups (fellowships, up to 6 members). There is a main quest line that follows the journey of the fellowship, and sometimes you will meet them, but most of the times you cover their flanks, prepare the way for them or clean up after them. There are also many minor side quests with quite interesting stories that imerse you even more in this fantastic world of Middle-Earth. Maybe you'd like to check it out. It is free to play with some restrictions like gold-cap, limited inventory space and such but it is enough to get a feel for it and to decide if it would be worth for you to start a subscription or not.
At 1:15:24, George R.R. Martin is said to have used the death of Gandalf here as the inspiration for killing off his major characters in GoT.
When the younger generation first sees Gandalf
“Is tHAt DuMblEdOrE??!”
😡😡😡🤬🤬😂
And they didn't even read Harry Potter. I'll never understand a generation that prefers the inferior HP movies to the original books.
Wooohoooo let's go best franchise ever made
49:30 One can appreciate that Gimli heard what needs to be done, calculated his options for a sec and went for the kill then and there. No mind tricks or foul influence, he just grabbed his axe and went to work :D
It's funny that despite how long this movie is, particularly the extended version, every single reaction channel I've seen all say "is that it?!" at the end 😅
This is amazing! Can’t wait to watch with you guys!
1:10:22 you didnt realize the Mithril armor.. A few minutes ago, Gandalf said The king Thorin gave one of the mithril armors to Bilbo.. I didnt say that to Bilbo but That mithril armor may buy the whole shire.. That was this mithril armor that Frodo wear.. The mithril mines are more valuable than golds and jewels and diamonds..
From the time Bilbo left the ring, to the time that Frodo actually left on his journey was over 15 years. Gandalf was looking for Gollum and after finding him, questioned him as to the origin of the ring.
Great, really great reaction gentlemen.
You got my sub.
Keep it coming.
In the directors commentary PJ deliberately decided to make it seem like a shorter time for the sake of a feeling of urgency. I personally take that to mean the movie canon is different than true canon.
The Extendeds are actually the "normal" versions. The theatricals had to be cut for time, to make their running lengths acceptable for theaters, at the expense of scenes that add greatly to the understanding of the characters and the overall story. A lot of Extended, Director's cut, etc. releases are money grabs whose whole purpose is to get you to spend your money again; NOT the case with LOTR.
Yup. Peter Jackson wanted people to see the extended (uncut) versions in the theatres, but Harvey Weinstein stopped him. In fact, Harvey wanted just ONE movie in the threatres, not a trilogy. 5 years of court proceedings - and the 'harvey weinstein orc" in return of the king (made at Jackson's specific direction) was the result.
Too many people don’t realize they are arguing in favour of a version of this movies that was only shown in theatres because of legal reasons - not for artistic reasons.
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Peter Jackson’s passion project team was forced to not show their full content as it would cut into what the cinema CEOs literally called the theatrical edition to get more screen time in and more mulla for themselves. It’s a such a nasty business. 80 percent true that money be the root of all evil. It’s the reason the real pumped out the EE as fast as possible in DVD format before the second and third film hit theatres to get back at Harvey Weinstein, again, they wanted people to see the whole movie which invites feelings of completion in one’s heart.
But he just announced that’s he found 1300 hours worth of footage from a warehouse he finally got access to so we will see more specially made super extended edition cinema extravaganzas that no cinema would pass on the opportunity to ride on his coattails again.
The EE wasn’t just for fans. He literally was adapting the books to film as honestly as possible. the DVD documentaries showed that they didn’t want to cut anything. And weaselled around things to create the EE. (EE is extended edition by the way! ❤️).
Without the extended for the next two films I always say “Good luck missing the Boromir backstory. Good luck explaining why the cloak turns into a rock. Good luck explaining the elves that had explained their current situation since the first film.
It all ties together good luck skipping the gift scene with Galadriel and Celeborn and the extra scenes between Aragorn and Celeborn & Galadriel to Aragorn!”
It’s seriously needed for the film worldbuilding and heightening the stakes. Also, I’d rather have faith people have the emotional and intellectual IQ high enoug to understand it or shall we have changed the title to something else same as how JK was forced to change the title in America to sorcerers stone instead of PHILOSPHER as Americans don’t even know what a Philospher is anymore these days which is sad. Relating to that: Tolkien was very sad about people losing connection to their past and heritage etc!
17:30 ironically being “too old, actually is the reason why gandalf couldn’t take it, the older you are in middle earth, the more powerful you probably are, and gandalf predates middle earth 😭
(No spoilers) - Firstly: All 16 rings were meant to go to the elves ( which lead to 300-500years of his infiltration & deception down the drain.) but Mairon of the Maiar(primordial angelic beings in simple terms as they are sort of beyond angels) disguised as a high elf named Annatar when he came to the elves pretending to be an emissary from Valinor on behalf of the Valar so it makes sense how alluring the ring is and how strong it’s pull on people is. (A bit too instant in the movies though) Galadriel soon saw right through him and especially when after speaking with him regarding not remembering him when in Valinor long ago where she learned from all the Valar thanks to being dominantly Vanyar/Teleri side over her Noldorin side where she gleaned from that encounter that she did not study under Aulë the Vala with any elf named Annatar ! But later named Sauron by the elves meaning deceiver! After all of this, The three elven rings were made in secret without Saurons touch upon them thanks to Celebrimbor! Remember Gandalf before he became Gandalf was the same species of entity Sauron used to be!! Wow hey?
The Rings in this case, would have lost their powers eventually due to the lack of the One Ring and possibly because they were designed to defeat evil, & evil in the form of Sauron had been defeated twice already in the past.
The Three Elven Rings served their purpose for a long time. Two out of three of them had several different bearers Unlike the other Rings, the main purpose of the Three is to "heal and preserve", as when Galadriel used Nenya to preserve her realm of Lothlórien over long periods. The Elves made the Three Rings to try to halt the passage of time, or as Tolkien had Elrond say, "to preserve all things unstained". I can expand upon this based on any further statements & questions you have for me as a reply to this comment ! ❤
There is problem here with the Rings, the Three were supposed to be never touched by Sauron and that's why they were not corrupting…Sauron had not taken part in their making which made the Three more 'pure' unsullied by his dark power, unlike the Nine and Seven Rings! But Sauron in the show touched the very material they were made of!!! So technically he could have tainted them and corrupted!
Even appendices of Lot tell us the order of making the rings, so they didn't even need the righs to more detailed writings in UT or Silmarillion:
1200
Sauron endeavours to seduce the Eldar. Gil-galad refuses to treat with him; but the smiths of Eregion are won over. The Númenoreans begin to make permanent havens.
c. 1500
The Elven-smiths instructed by
Sauron reach the height of their skill.
They begin the forging of the Rings of Power.
c. 1590
The Three Rings are completed in Eregion.
c. 1600
Sauron forges the One Ring in
Orodruin. He completes the Barad-dûr. Celebrimbor perceives the designs of Sauron.
1693
War of the Elves & Sauron begins.
The Three Rings are hidden."
'Did you not hear me, Gloin?' said Elrond. 'The Three were not made by Sauron, nor did he ever touch them.
But of them it is not permitted to speak. So much only in this hour of doubt I may now say. They are not idle. But they were not made as weapons of war or conquest: that is not their power. Those who made them did not desire strength or domination or hoarded wealth, but understanding, making, and healing, to preserve all things unstained.
These things the Elves of Middle-earth have in some measure gained, though with sorrow. But all that has been wrought by those who wield the Three will turn to their undoing, and their minds and hearts will become revealed to Sauron, if he regains the One."
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The 3 Elven Rings are not susceptible to “The One Ring” in any direct way.. They’re only tied by fate to lose their power if Sauron is defeated completely & absolutely. As they were made by the elves and as always they make things for a purpose and pour their literal spirit into things they create. So if Sauron is defeated then the three rings power will fade and basically become almost useless or diminished versions of their original design since by this era magic has bled from the world by a huge degree thanks to Morgoth’s poisoning the world itself with his very essence that he poured into it. Called The Long Defeat By The Elves and The Men Of The West.
Actually Gimli attacking the ring shows it has no hold over him just like the Dwarvish rings out of the 16 meant to go to the elves had no hold over them. So technically they could easily be used offensively & defensively but many disappeared over the ages mainly due to Sauron collecting them back again over the last few thousand years. One or two eaten by dragons (not simple minded beasts here. They were twisted and enhanced beings by Melkor/Morgoth(Saurons Upperclassman as far as the Ainur face goes.). There were only a few of them and their offspring are lesser drakes throughout middle earth. Most recent one you’ll see in The Hobbit movie and one other most recent dragon left of the originally created dragons was Scatha, of which I don’t think Scatha even has wings or could fly in any permanent sort of way.
“Evil cannot create. Only twist and warp what is already natural to the world”
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“Nobody Trust An Elf”
The thing is with a certain clan of dwarves: A giant set of events throughout the ages caused a huge rift between dwarves and elves since before any elf ever saw a dwarf. Elves are the firstborn. Men are the secondborn. Dwarvish forefathers were created by the hands of one of the Valar named Aulë, then essentially Eru Îlluvatar(AllFather) breathed life into them to later wake up at a later date since Aulë was still excited to create things of his very own. It’s also why dwarves overall can resist the rings power and so forth.
There were these beings became known as Petty Dwarves in the books where these beings were super hostile and the elves thought it was just another spawn of Melkor (now Morgoth) so when they finally did see actual dwarves they killed them on site. That and dwarves were keen on chopping down trees by huge amounts so you can kind of see why… but this was only the beginning. But it’s not a very good start. Buuut not all dwarvish clans share this rift as the creator of the 16 rings was an elf named Celebrimbor and is one of the best characters ever. His main smithery guild in Eregion was full of dwarves and elves called the “Gwaith Ír Mirdain”. Even Gimli’s father was really close to a certain elf I won’t name yet! ❤
Not all dwarves were enemies to elves. Galadriel and her brother were best friends with dwarves. Famously the fortress of Nargothrond was built by Finrod Felagund with the dwarves! It was only a certain clan that killed Elu Thingol! (Elwë)
Galadriel & her elder brother Finrod Felagund were best friends with the dwarves. Finrod was named Felagund by the dwarves meaning “Earth Hewer” from the fact he helped them build the great fortress called Nargothrond of which he was the elven lord that ruled there justly. Was the same for Celebrimbor and the dwarves of Eregion especially the guild called Gwaith Í Mirdain. His bestie was Narvi the dwarf. Narvi and Celebrimbor created the doors of Moria. Moria is also the elvish name for Khazad Dûm. This gift for Gimli set it into imperishable Crystal and would be the only thing left in middle earth that holds the light of the two trees of Valinor (Valanor by the Eldar). It’s basically the uncursed version of the Nauglamir. He named it The Galadramir. ❤
If you search for
'victorian hair art' then you can see what amazing things people created with hair in the past. Craftsmen as dwarfs were, I imagine that Gimli must have created something beyond exquisite!
I never noticed that Aragorn shouts "Elendil!" when he jumps in to fight the Urukai... Fucking love LOTR
Among all the other great qualities of this movie, the soundtrack by Howard Shore is some of the greatest cinematic music ever created. Well worth listening to by itself.
The elvish songs of lamentation were for Gandalf when they arrived in Lothlórien. So the song you hear is literally for him whilst being a theme for the movie itself.
This was expanded & set to music by Philippa Boyens & Howard Shore, respectively, for The Lord of the Rings: The Fellowship of the Ring.
It was sung in the said film by Elizabeth Fraser in the track Lothlórien. Notable about this song is that it assumes that the elves of Lothlórien were aware that Gandalf was an incarnate Maia. This is debatable. As well, the lyrics ask "What drove you to leave/That which you loved?". This suggests that Gandalf was well aware that he would fall in Moria.
Other verses include Gandalf being the wisest of the Maiar, and that with him the Flame of Anor would leave the world (assuming that it and he were one, or he was the only wielder of the Flame).
(English comes after the Quenya)
* The first part is in Quenya:
A Olórin i yáresse
Mentaner i Númenherui
Tírien i Rómenóri
Maiaron i Oiosaila
Manan elye etevanne
Nórie i melanelye?
- The Second part is in Sindarin:
Mithrandir, Mithrandir, A Randir Vithren
ú-reniathach i amar galen
I reniad lín ne mór, nuithannen
In gwidh ristennin, i fae narchannen
I lach Anor ed ardhon gwannen
Caled veleg, ethuiannen.
* Olórin, who once was...
Sent by the Lords of the West
To guard the lands of the East
Wisest of all Maiar
What drove you to leave
That which you loved?
Mithrandir, Mithrandir O Pilgrim Grey
No more will you wander the green fields of this earth
Your journey has ended in darkness.
The bonds cut, the spirit broken
The Flame of Anor has left this World
A great light, extinguished.
And Since Gandalf is tied to the story and fate of the elves as he is one of the Maiar spirits is that when one perishes it tends to be a big deal when something like one “dies” if you will. Spending thousands of years together even in his current embodiment is still greatly impactful upon his death.
Viggo (Aragorn) bought the horse that Arwen's stunt double rode in the chase to Rivendale and gifted it to that stuntwoman!
Rivendell. Or it’s true name : Imladris
Best trilogy ever made.
Glad it was Made before the Dark time of the so called "woke"...
Extended scenes at risk of being missed: 1• Frodo/Sam's first meeting with the elves, providing context for Valinor and the elves journey there, as referenced throughout the films and seen at the end of the Return of the King(connects to the passing of the elves in the beginning of their leaving the shire when Frodo and Sam are near the Old Forest by the Shire which leads them to eventually bumping into Merry And Pippin!
(An epic scene with Gandalf in Rivendell was also removed as well.)
2. Aragorn singing the Lay of Luthien, providing a parallel between the events of the Beren and Luthien and Aragorn's relationship with Arwen of which every reactor channel I’ve seen makes the connection and it pulls them into a deeper understanding of their relationship every single time.
3. Aragorn kneeling at his mother's grave, giving him some additional backstory for the viewer.
4. Gandalf explaining to Frodo about the corruptive power of the Ring, and how it will strain the Fellowship from the inside, foreshadowing Boromir's downfall.
5. Sam singing a lament for Gandalf, providing more emotional weight to Gandalf's death, referencing the start of the movie and strengthening the connection between him and the Hobbits ( also highlights Tolkien's love of song and poetry in the books).
6. Galadriel giving the gifts to the Fellowship, providing context for their appearance in later films, as well as drawing a parallel between Gimli's gift and the events of the Silmarillion (Fëanor & Galadriel).
That’s just the beginning. Including several removed scenes between Aragorn & Galadriel and Aragorn with her husband Celeborn!
7• also the opening explaining Hobbits & their culture to the viewers, so they have a better understanding of these peoples we will be following which also was the direct full chapter called Concerning Hobbits.
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"Bro turned off gravity" was the funniest reaction to Sauron I've ever seen.
1:18:39 when Legolass is explaining what happened to Gandalf. He calls the Balrog a "Balrog of Morgoth." Morgoth was Sauron's master, and the original dark lord. And the Balrogs were his elite soldiers. If you think Sauron is dangerous, imagine if Morgoth was still alive.
In my mind Gandalf vs Saruman will forever be Magneto vs Count Dooku, or Magneto vs Dracula
oh i hate that. i cant unsee it anymore.
23:02 cuz its a dolly zoom, the camera is zooming out while being wheeled in/forward, or the other way around I cant rmbr but that's what makes the effect :D
Hitchcock made it famous, especially in the film "Vertigo".
@@ebreshea1337 Yeah! i analysed Hitchcock in my a levels lmao
My favorite shot of the trilogy is in this movie, it is when Frodo puts out the fire on the watchtower and the ringwraiths come out of the mist, love that shot
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Most people who react to the extended editions, always include the extended scenes in the reaction, despite not knowing which scenes are added. In my opinion this demonstrates the contextual importance of these scenes cut from the theatrical.
Is nobody gonna comment how Galadriel here is SO powerful without the need to wield a sword (cause strength isnt always physical).. She was argueably THE strongest elf at the time.. probably stronger than Gandalf and Saruman.. and she kept all of her region of the woods safe from the darkness of Sauron by her power.. Fast forward a few years to her depiction in rings of power and.. man.. why they do her like that...
I mean Gandalf was the Leader of the White Council only because SHE chose him over Saruman.. talk about real power
𝗚𝗿𝗲𝗮𝘁 point.
“This would make a great open world video game, right?”
Literally every single child watching these movies back in the day praying for this to be a thing
Hobbits aren't just small. The actor who played Gandalf (Sir Ian McKellen) is really tall. And him bonking his head on the beam wasn't scripted; he actually bonked his head.
Another moment that wasn't supposed to happen was the Uruk Kai throwing the dagger at Aragorn. What I mean is the Uruk actor got so into character that he threw a real dagger at Aragorn's actor. And him blocking it with his sword was a genuine response.
the second story is likely false. Fans confused two different stories. Lurtz couldn't see very well so he accidentally headbutted Viggo. The amazing thing about the knife deflection was just that he got it first try. Source: Actors' and Director's commentary. I can't find a single source for any other deflection story.
You dont forget that name at 1:00:56 "...is the home of my cousin Balin"... And 1:05:13 "Here lies Balin" You will see this name at Hobbit trilogy..
One thing I noticed here that I had never noticed before was the juxtaposition of Boromir’s death to Isildur’s.
Boromir died fighting with three arrows in his chest. Isildur died trying to flee with three arrows in the back. That alone shows that men have the courage and strength required to fight the growing evil.
The song heard when the elves were spotted in the forest by Frodo&Sam near the beginning of the movie: chanting a very special Hymn to make their journey most safe:(With English translation)
* Á Elbereth Gilthoniel
“o Elbereth who lit the stars”
* silivren penna míriel
“from glittering crystal slanting falls with light like jewels”
* Ò menel aglar elenath
“from heaven on high the glory of the starry host”
* na-chaered palan-díriel
“to lands remote I have looked afar”
ò galadhremmin ennorath
“from tree-tangled middle-lands”
* Fanuilos, le linnathon
“and now to thee, Fanuilos, bright spirit clothed in ever-white, I will ... sing”
* nef aear, sí nef aearon
“here ... beyond the Sea, beyond the wide and sundering Sea”
* Ã Elbereth Gilthoniel²
“o Elbereth who lit the stars”
* Ò menel palan-diriel
“from heaven gazing far”
* le nallon sí di’nguruthos
“here overwhelmed in dread of Death I cry”
* Á tiro nin, Fanuilos
“o guard me, Elbereth”
(The elvish name given to Varda is Elbereth Gilthoniel is one of the main Valar who are of the main group of entities known as the Ainur who sang the world into being and helped shaped it further from within after some entered into the young world. She is most loved & honoured by the elves for many reasons)
It’s very important as regarding the elves history that spanned over 40,000+ years. Because even one of the three high kings within Valinor was 30,000 years old well before the third age. Galadriel is his granddaughter just do you know. Yeah. She’s very important throughout the entire histories. They are passing away with what’s left of their kin to the undying lands. Many thousands had their home in middle earth just like the high kings ancestors that woke to the stars. Their birth is shrouded in mist as is their entire existence itself. That in itself is a whole story. You’d love to react to the immersive and entertaining lore videos like moviejoob & OmarioRPG have done. It’s ever vast and rewarding to let touch your soul.❤❤❤❤
Varda is a Quenya name of Valarin origin meaning "Sublime", "Exalted" or "Lofty"
Elentári means queen of the stars in Quenya. Elbereth means queen of the stars in Sindarin. Gilthoniel means kindler of the stars in Sindarin.
An original title of Varda, meaning 'the Kindler', and deriving from her making of the first faint stars in ancient times which was to light the dark world which had no sun yet and they loomed over the original Dark Lord (Fallen Valar named Morgoth by the elves) who he feared most above all even as supposedly he was the mightiest and first of all Ainur to ever exist (Ainur is the ultimate race of both Maiar and Valar)
When, long afterwards, she used the dews of Telperion, (one of the two sacred trees that predated the Moon of which it birthed later on) to kindle brighter stars still, this honorific name seems to have fallen out of favour. After that time she was called instead Elentári, the Queen of the Stars.
Nice that you guys react to the greatest triology of all time
The man who eats a carrot at 25:11 was the director Peter Jackson.. That was his first cameo of this trilogy :D
The LOTR was written as a single volume book with six internal divisions; the first one occurred where Frodo awoke with Gandalf after having been healed by Elrond (the second where the Fellowship ends). The book became a trilogy because Tolkien’s publisher wouldn’t publish it as one volume, preferring to break it into three. Coming up with names stressed JRRT out but obviously, it worked.
The Director of this movie was, in general, very respectful of the source material BUT it is just an interpretation. There is only one place to get the genuine, real LOTR: the books, as Tolkien wrote them. If you are readers, get them-read them. They are treasures of English literature. If you don’t enjoy reading, well, glad you enjoyed the movie!
You should also note, though, that Jackson made some significant cuts-as one does in creating a screenplay-and a few alterations which I and others find objectionable. But such is life. This is Jackson’s interpretation, and as I noted the perfect version is Tolkien’s-and in the reader’s imagination.
The Hobbit took place 80 years prior to the events in the LOTR. It is Bilbo’s story-and beyond that, I’d be spoiling it so enough said. However, there are two things to know about The Hobbit. First, it is a children’s story written to be enjoyed by both children and adults. And, depending on age, can be read aloud to children. That should not put you off! But where the LOTR is high fantasy, The Hobbit is a bit more homey, less sophisticated in its perspective.
Second, where Jackson was respectful of the source material in the LOTR he showed no such constraints with The Hobbit-in fact, it strayed so far afield at times it ought to have listed coauthors. That isn’t a good thing. The first movie isn’t terrible; beside an inappropriate insertion of a LOTR call-forward (?), there is a massive insertion of created material towards the end-otherwise it remained pretty true to the book. The other two movies did manage to tell the story in the books but that is in between created storylines that many (myself included) find out of place and kinda gross exaggerations (both meanings of gross apply). I do not recommend the movies-but opinions vary; I’m part of an unofficial community of Tolkien nerds who have read/studied nearly two dozen volumes of notes, fragments, partially written stories, and so on that Tolkien’s son (and muse, confidante, writing “helper,” Cristopher) posthumously published. We’ve had decades to pick over what has come to be known as the legendarium-the hyperlink site I referenced in my previous comment is a more organized Tolkien Fan site, with official standing and some goodies as a result. Anyway, our tolerance for re-writing Tolkien’s story by addition, deletion or alteration is pretty small. Because it was intelligent and thoughtful and the acting was so good I found The LOTR acceptable-not every Tolkien nerd does. The Hobbit is way over the line…
But I offer the above comments so you can better understand a division that exists in your audience, let you know a resource exists within that audience to answer questions you may have-the back-story is very deep and rich, like an actual history spanning more than 6000 years.
Last tidbit. Tolkien was born and grew up in S. Africa of ex-pat English parents, was raised by a single mother until her death while he was still young at which time his care was undertaken by a Catholic boarding School. He moved to England after graduation, fought in WW I (during which the famous opening lines of The Hobbit were written); that war-time experience is credited for his vivid battle scenes. He was a devout Catholic in a primarily Protestant (Church of England) country, and the driving interest in his writing fiction was his love of inventing languages-he needed people to speak those languages, and stories/histories for those people to live…
When I was in college there was a class on themes of nature in fantasy literature and I wish I could have taken it. Sauron having them rip up all the trees as one of his first acts of warmaking is such a symbolic moment.
Galadriel's life was marked by much loss & tragedy part 1. She lost many family members, including her brothers Aegnor & Angrod, who died in the War of Wrath, a great conflict between the forces of the Valar and Morgoth.
She also lost her grandfather, Finwë, who was slain by Morgoth by a terrible & unholy lighting strike that left his body broken but one can imagine he was just as mighty as Fëanor by being the FATHER, Morgoth himself being responsible for the deaths of her uncles Fëanor (& Fingolfin quite a bit later on when he faced off one on one with Morgoth/Melkor and left the fallen Valar 7 permanent wounds which left him eternally limp to the point of being mocked by his generals and the like indefinitely which left Morgoth in intense pain forever!)
Fëanor was Galadriel's half-uncle, as he was the son of Finwë by his first wife Míriel. Fëanor's sons were therefore Galadriel's first cousins. Most of Fëanor's sons died in the wars that followed the theft of the Silmarils, including the tragic deaths of Celegorm & Curufin, who were slain by their own cousin, Lúthien's son Dior.
Galadriel also lost her relative Aredhel, who was her cousin, & Aredhel’s brother; king Turgon of the hidden kingdom of Gondolin. These losses weighed heavily on Galadriel, but she remained strong and resolute in the face of adversity.
Fëanor's death was a tragic event that marked the beginning of the First Age of Middle-earth. After Morgoth stole the three Silmarils, Fëanor swore an oath to retrieve them, even if it meant going to war with the Valar themselves. Fëanor led the Ñoldor in their rebellion against the Valar, & he and his sons played a significant role in the events that followed.
Fëanor was eventually slain by Balrogs, demonic creatures who served Morgoth, during the flight of the Ñoldor from Middle-earth. His death marked the end of an era, & his legacy continued to be felt in Middle-earth for many ages to come.
Fingolfin's death was no less tragic. He challenged Morgoth to single combat & fought valiantly against him, but he was ultimately slain by the Dark Lord. His death inspired many to rise up against Morgoth, & his legacy continued to inspire the people of Middle-earth for many ages to come.
Despite the many losses she suffered, Galadriel remained a powerful and influential figure in Middle-earth, & her wisdom & knowledge continued to be sought after by many.
Galadriel's history is rich & complex, & she played a significant role in the events of Middle-earth. She was born in the Undying Lands before the creation of the sun and moon, and she was a member of the Noldor, one of the three Elven races.
Galadriel's family, the House of Finarfin, was closely connected to the Vanyar, the first of the three Elven races to journey to the Undying Lands. Galadriel's grandmother, Indis, was a Vanya, and her mother, Eärwen, was a Teleri princess who married Finarfin.
Galadriel's father & brothers participated in the rebellion of the Noldor against the Valar, which resulted in the exile of the Noldor from the Undying Lands. Galadriel, however, did not participate in the horrifying kinslaying, protecting her mothers people from Fëanor’s onslaught at Alqualondë instead, - returning in the Undying Lands for a while longer before reuniting with her people still travelling the Helcaraxë.
As I recall her father was with the others that returned to Valinor at the Doom Of Mandos which in basic terms set a warning prophesy sort of thing where if they left Valinor it’d cause a domino effect throughout time etc. but Fëanor’s fire burned inside and he had a HUGE bone to pick with Morgoth.
So that’s what was mainly leading him there but it was several years long of travel on what was called the Helcaraxë (grinding ice wastes) Galadriel did end up there but through other means as her way to middle earth let’s just say lead her to there where she sort of rendezvoused with her family and helped lead her people to middle earth. Many died on this trip of HARSH conditions.).
During the Third Age, Galadriel played a key role in the events leading up to the War of the Ring. She helped the Fellowship of the Ring by giving them gifts, advice, and guidance, and she played a significant role in the defeat of Sauron. (She played a bigger role than shown in the movies)
Galadriel possessed many magical abilities, including the power to read minds, the ability to communicate telepathically, & the power to cast spells but above all was her ability to project herself across large distances(not teleporting, think more like a sort of mental and spiritual projection similar to astral travel) She was also renowned for her beauty & grace, and her wisdom and knowledge were highly respected by the Free Peoples of Middle-earth.
Overall, Galadriel's long life and rich history make her one of the most intriguing and powerful characters in J.R.R. Tolkien's Middle-earth legendarium.
Galadriel is one of the oldest and most powerful beings of the Elven race left in middle earth. According to Tolkien's writings, Galadriel was born in Tirion in the Undying Lands(which means untouched By Morgoth’s Ring where he poured his essence and malice into the earth itself. Middle Earth. Not all of Eä(the world), also known as Aman, which existed before the creation of the sun and moon.
And this landmass used to be closer to middle earth and existed long before Middle Earth became what it was as a landmass in itself due to the reshaping of the world a few times due to Valar’s battles with Melkor along with natural shifts over the millions of years etc.
The creation of the sun and moon occurred after the Two Trees of Valinor, which provided light to the world, were destroyed. This event, known as the Darkening of Valinor, marked the end of the First Age of Middle-earth.
Based on Tolkien's timeline, the events of the First Age occurred approximately 5,000 years before the start of the Second Age. The Second Age lasted for approximately 3,441 years, and the Third Age lasted for approximately 3,019 years.
Therefore, if Galadriel was born in the Undying Lands before the creation of the sun & moon, it is estimated that she would be at least 25,000 years old by the end of the Third Age, which is when the events of The Lord of the Rings take place. This calculation is based on the assumption that Galadriel was born before the start of the First Age and that she has lived through all three ages, which is supported by Tolkien's writings.
Most important thing here is about Galadriel’s eldest brother Finrod: Finrod Felagund, also known as Findaráto, was a noble elf of rarer mixed heritage just like his younger sister & brothers, the Noldor/Vanyar/Teleri renowned for his wisdom and fairness but also his valiance. He was the eldest son of Finarfin, one of the three sons of Finwë who was the High King of the Noldor.
Finrod played a crucial role in the events that led to the creation of Númenor. When the Valar summoned the Noldor to return to Valinor, Finrod and his companions chose to stay in Middle-earth and establish their own kingdoms. During their travels, they encountered the Edain, a group of mortal Men who were the mightiest of them all and the elves considered them equals!!!
They became friendly and open to the elves. Finrod was particularly impressed by their courage and loyalty, and he became the first elf to befriend them.
As time passed, Finrod & the 3 main Houses Of The Edain formed a close bond. Teaching them many things about the world and the lore of the elves. He also helped them in their struggles against the dark forces of Morgoth since even before meeting the elves. The Edain pledged their allegiance to the elves and fought alongside them in many battles. He even learned their language due to his way of reading hearts and minds which essentially aided hugely in his learning how their language worked etcetera.
Eventually, the deeds of Finrod and the Edain were recounted in the halls of the Valar, and the Valar took pity on the mortal Men. They decided to give them a gift, and thus Númenor was created, a great island kingdom in the middle of the sea, where Men could live in peace and prosperity.
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As for Finrod Felagund, [Galadriel’s Eldest Brother], he did not live to see the rise of Númenor, for he perished in a battle against a werewolf in the dungeons of Tol-in-Gaurhoth, also known as Sauron's Isle. Protecting Beren, saving his life by breaking free from his own chains to kill that same werewolf with his bare hands and teeth. Facing off with Sauron before that. He and Beren were forced to watch the elvish companions who were most loyal to Finrod get ripped apart by said werewolves
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He was a true friend to the first of mankind to show up in middle earth, the Edain, and played a key role in the creation of Númenor. He was also close to his sister Galadriel, and together they shared many adventures and battles. (I’ll share the significance of Elrond’s father which is the main character in how his deeds lead to the assistance from Valinor to help insurmountable odds and circumstances regarding Morgoth to take his physical form out of the picture for good in what’s called the War Of Wrath which was 80 years long nonstop. But I’ll go into it more when I share about Elrond in a different comment which I may save for the second movie or if you want I can post it below this video!)
In the end, Finrod's legacy lived on through his deeds and his influence on the fate of Middle-earth. His noble example inspired many, including Aragorn, who was born centuries later & gave him the chance to claim the throne of Gondor & Arnor/Anor as a descendant of the line of Elronds Twin brother who was first king Of Númenor and started the line of the Faithful Númenoreans.
Bilbo Walking Song: “Roads go ever ever on, Over rock and under tree, By caves where never sun has shone, By streams that never find the sea; Over snow by winter sown,
And through the merry flowers of June,Over grass and over stone,
And under mountains in the moon.
Roads go ever ever on
Under cloud and under star,
Yet feet that wandering have gone
Turn at last to home afar.
Eyes that fire and sword have seen
And horror in the halls of stone
Look at last on meadows green
And trees and hills they long have known”
The original version of the song is recited by Bilbo in the last chapter of The Hobbit, at the end of his journey back to the Shire. Coming to the top of a rise he sees his home in the distance, and stops and essentially sings what I shared above!
There are three versions of this walking song in The Lord of the Rings.
The first is sung by Bilbo when he leaves the Shire and is setting off to visit Rivendell:
“The Road goes ever on and on,
Down from the door where it began.
Now far ahead the Road has gone,
And I must follow, if I can,
Pursuing it with eager feet,
Until it joins some larger way
Where many paths and errands meet.
And whither then? I cannot say.”
The second version is identical except for changing the word "eager" to "weary" in the fifth line. It is spoken aloud, slowly, by Frodo, as he and his companions pause on their way to Crickhollow, looking beyond to lands that some of them have never seen before.
The third version is spoken by Bilbo in Rivendell after the hobbits have returned from their journey. Bilbo is now an old, sleepy hobbit, who murmurs the verse and then falls asleep.
“The Road goes ever on and on
Out from the door where it began.
Now far ahead the Road has gone,
Let others follow it who can!
Let them a journey new begin,
But I at last with weary feet
Will turn towards the lighted inn,
My evening-rest and sleep to meet.”
1977: The Hobbit (1977 film): Sections of the poem are sung during the trip through Mirkwood. It appears on the soundtrack titled "Roads".
1980: The Return of the King (1980 film):
A song inspired by the poem is sung at the end of the film called "Roads Go Ever, Ever On".
1981: The Lord of the Rings (1981 radio series):
Bilbo sings the song as he leaves Bag End. It is sung by John Le Mesurier to a tune by Stephen Oliver.
1997: An Evening in Rivendell:
The Tolkien Ensemble adapted an original melody to the song, composed by Caspar Reiff.
2001: The Lord of the Rings: The Fellowship of the Ring:
Parts of the song are sung by Gandalf in his first appearance, and also by Bilbo as he leaves Bag End.
2006: The Lord of the Rings Musical:
The poem is the basis of the song "The Road Goes On" sung by Sam, Frodo, Merry, and Pippin in the first act.
2014: The Hobbit: The Battle of the Five Armies:
Lines of the poem partially make up the lyrics of The Last Goodbye, performed by Billy Boyd(Pippin) for the credits of the film.
This is just stuff to know when you see the next films. Maybe seeing this will spark something you read here or in other people’s comments via future reactions to the other 2 films as well as the 3 The Hobbit movies!
Awesome, thanks. Isn't Gandalf singing it to himself as well when he first pulls up into the Shire on horse and carriage?
YESSS, FINALLY!!! THE BEST FANTASY PERIOD
Remember to watch the Extended Version of Two Towers and Return of the King aswell, as they add alot of details to the story.
These films are the true greatest of all time.
Loved the review, guys! They only get better!
Happy to see you liking the music, and it is amazing. Everything has a theme. All nations, places, characters and so on. And all are just perfect! Aragorn wore Boromirs wristguards after his death if you watch closely. ALSO remember at the end of this one Frodo to Sam "Im glad you are with me." for the end of third film. Very true words and i wont say more.
That "we still have time" was the funniest timing I've ever seen.
First time here but have to say, the crisp framing of the greenscreen and the video? Very creative and big ups!
Galadriel’s Gift To Gimli part 2 - ever wondered how old Galadriel is during the War of the Ring? I have looked in many different sources and depending on where you look, she’s anywhere from 17,000-20,000 elf-years old. 6,000 seems too young as it would make her close in age to Elrond, who I know is much younger than her even though he’s 6000-8000 by the third age, which wouldn’t make sense for her at all even if she was (“690 elf-years older” as some kept repeating on the internet making 6960!)As she was around long before Elrond was even born and time was experience differently to say the LEAST as there is a lot to go into on that subject lol.)
She was born during the Years of the Trees & back then the years were something like 9X longer than a solar year so I understand the math is hard, especially since she isn’t given an exact birth year. But it is said that Finarfin, her father, was born in Y.T. 1230, so I would assume she was born sometime within 1000 years of then (being generous).
Basically, I’m wondering what the most accurate range is for her age during the events of Lord of the Rings.
I’ll also add that Galadriel is was around before the ents even existed (of which Treebeard is 15,000 years old so she’s OLDER than Treebeard/Fangorn) or very close to when they were “created” by Yavannah and probably had much knowledge to do with such things and or direct knowledge of what happened.
Probably through an early prototype of her mirror or simply another dream that made her long for middle earth all over again ontop of the yearning she already had to go there and explore. Nothing to do with Fëanor’s oath and all that jazz.
(So by this current era in HUMAN solar years she’s like. 150,000 to 180,000 years old. Now that makes more sense if she’s going to be older than the sun and moon. Tolkien was always reiterating his manuscripts with the growing scientific discoveries.)
though Treebeard/Fangorn in the deeper writings is older than Galadriel as he was one of first brought into life by Yavanna to help protect nature while it was put into enhanced hibernation by Yavanna to protect them from Morgoth’s Ring (the poisoning of the world itself which caused it to bleed its magic away over the ages called The Long Defeat by the elves.)
Just going from the Appendices (and maybe Silmarillion) she would have to be at least 9000+ years older than Elrond, Elrond was born near the end of the First Age, Galadriel was adult before the destruction of the Trees.
Actually, more than that: I just checked, and the Second Age ended in SA 3441. So an elf born literally at the end of the First Age (FA 590) is 3441+3018 = 6459 years old when Frodo leaves for Rivendell.
Elrond was born in FA 532, so adds 58 years to get 6517. Elves are mature at 100, so Galadriel adds at leas 632 to Elrond's age, to be at least 7149, and possibly quite a bit more (as attested by other comments.)
One fic had Maglor(Elrond’s Adoptive Father, Maedhros was also adoptive father alongside Maglor, they were the eldest sons of Fëanor) - One fic had as much older than Galadriel; I wondered how we knew, and it was pointed out to me that Maglor was the second oldest son of the first son of Finwë, while Galadriel is the youngest child of the third son of Finwë. So, yeah.
Note that the second age was the LONGEST and again time was experienced very differently back then too aside from the internal clock of elves working very differently, she’s definitely older as far as the world and the other beings that age far faster around her.
I also remind you all that she’s older than the sun and the moon and witnessed & most likely even helped in the Valar’s crafting what would be the vessels of the last fruit & flower of the two trees of Valinor.
She was the most involved with learning everything possible from them and it was stated that she learned all there was to learn from ALL of the Valar that they could teach and she mastered all at a deep level. (Wow hey?)
She’s 25th generation from Tata one of the elven forefathers to wake to the stars. Their birth was rather shrouded in mist. Only those of her grandfathers ilk have a chance of knowing the origins a bit better as they are closer to that culture that stemmed from the beginning.
The Years of the Trees were the second of the three great time periods in Arda that followed the Years of the Lamps and preceded the Years of the Sun&Moon. They were known to be comprised of several Ages and lasted in total around 1500 Valian Years or 14,373 solar years.
Time flowed differently back then and time flowed differently within them too for the elves live as long as the world does. Epic hey?❤❤
The Dúnedain said that Galadriel’s height was two rangar, or "man-high" - some 6 feet 4 inches (193 cm). However, Galadriel's most striking feature was her beautiful long silver-golden hair.
The Elves of Tirion said it captured the radiance of the Two Trees Laurelin and Telperion themselves. Galadriel was said to be the tallest female in Middle Earth, at 6'4”. But then Thingol was the tallest elf ever to live, and he's estimated to be almost 9' (274 cm)
Thingol was also a very very prominent figure within the Silmarillion and other books. He’s the great ancestor of Elrond+Arwen and through Aragorn being directly but distantly related to Elronds Twin Brother Elros it makes him loosely connected to Thingol as well. Let’s just say he died a tragic death long long ago.
In a continent that doesn’t exist anymore. The events I spoke of in my earlier story of Elrond about his fathers deeds, which lead to the Valar helping with putting a Stop to Morgoth for good so to say and that War Of Wrath lasted 80 years straight and it left the landmass torn asunder from the clash of gods and the holy host of Vanyar elves that were closest to the Valar than all other elves so you can imagine what a bunch of mighty elves men and Maiar fighting a bunch of fowl creatures and beings for 80 years would do to a continent. It all fell into the sea.
Galadriel barely made it over the mountain before that part of the story officially broke out.
Prepare to have over 1000k commenters explaining everything to you in detail... I would be one of those commenters, but I know everyone else has got it taken care of.
"We still got 30 minutes" xDD that shit had me crying
Fun fact! 7:22 Gandalf hitting that beam wasn't planned. But they still showed it in the movie :D
(Every LOTR fan knows that haha)
I love the fact that you can watch the extended versions of these, and at the end, have no clue what was added extra. Everything feels so important and relevant
Here is why. Peter Jackson wanted people to see the extended (uncut) versions in the theatres, but Harvey Weinstein stopped him. In fact, Harvey wanted just ONE movie in the threatres, not a trilogy. 5 years of court proceedings - and the 'harvey weinstein orc" in return of the king (made at Jackson's specific direction) was the result.
Too many people don’t realize they are arguing in favour of a version of this movies that was only shown in theatres because of legal reasons - not for artistic reasons.
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Peter Jackson’s passion project team was forced to not show their full content as it would cut into what the cinema CEOs literally called the theatrical edition to get more screen time in and more mulla for themselves. It’s a such a nasty business. 80 percent true that money be the root of all evil. It’s the reason the real pumped out the EE as fast as possible in DVD format before the second and third film hit theatres to get back at Harvey Weinstein, again, they wanted people to see the whole movie which invites feelings of completion in one’s heart.
But he just announced that’s he found 1300 hours worth of footage from a warehouse he finally got access to so we will see more specially made super extended edition cinema extravaganzas that no cinema would pass on the opportunity to ride on his coattails again.
The EE wasn’t just for fans. He literally was adapting the books to film as honestly as possible. the DVD documentaries showed that they didn’t want to cut anything. And weaselled around things to create the EE. (EE is extended edition by the way! ❤️).
Without the extended for the next two films I always say “Good luck missing the Boromir backstory. Good luck explaining why the cloak turns into a rock. Good luck explaining the elves that had explained their current situation since the first film.
It all ties together good luck skipping the gift scene with Galadriel and Celeborn and the extra scenes between Aragorn and Celeborn & Galadriel to Aragorn!”
It’s seriously needed for the film worldbuilding and heightening the stakes. Also, I’d rather have faith people have the emotional and intellectual IQ high enoug to understand it or shall we have changed the title to something else same as how JK was forced to change the title in America to sorcerers stone instead of PHILOSPHER as Americans don’t even know what a Philospher is anymore these days which is sad. Relating to that: Tolkien was very sad about people losing connection to their past and heritage etc!
Trilogy The Lord Of The Ring Extended Edition:
(1) The Felloship Of The Ring Extended Edition
(2) The Two Tower Extended Edition
(3) The Return Of The King Extended Edition
Trilogy The Hobbit Extended Edition Of The Adventures Of Bilbo Baggin:
(1) An Unexpected Journey Extended Edition
(2) The Desolation Of Smaug Extended Edition
(3) The Battle Five Armie Extended Edition
The extended edition of the LoTR movies list the entire membership of the official fan club in the credits; that's in part why the credits are so long.
That and 3000 people who were involved to make this all happen. Day in and day out. The scholars and so forth. And we the people on the forum making sure Arwen didn’t get put into helms deep for example
Moths are sacred to the elves. As well as it was contested to Radagast The Brown Wizard who was the champion sent to middle earth by Yavannah (Goddess of Nature itself and who was responsible for creating and nuturing all life, even her song created the two trees of Valinor which predated the sun and moon and to keep it simple acted in the stead of sun and moon. ) with who we know now as Gandalf and Saruman long ago at the beginning of the first age. Gandalf was meant to be the leader but he kept denying the leadership role and so Saruman was given this role for he was fully successful against Sauron for a long time even to this day of the third age. Gandalf openly stated his fear for Sauron (Mairon, his true name.) Olórin is that for Gandalf, Aiwendil for Radagast and Curumo for Saruman.
It was awesome to watch you. You are not the first channel I am watching the first time reaction of. But I really liked it. Maybe because you seemed really didn't know so much about it. It seems, you enjoyed the same scenes I love. I will check out your other reactions now.
Awesome reaction. Remember the books came out in the 60s and movies in 2001 - so any comparison you have, just know this was most likely the first :)
Of all the years I've watched Lord of the Rings from childhood to adulthood to then watching The Hobbits and then re-watching both on multiple occasions, how have I not connected the dots of Gandalf saying that he left a little nudge on Bilbo's door which led him on an adventure and him saying that Bilbo received a chainmail from Thorin before The Hobbits was even dreamt of being created??? I feel a bit slow ngl. Boromir indeed redeemed himself after fighting so valiantly to save the Hobbits. The interaction between Aragorn and him as laid there dying have always been a beautiful scene to me, always made me felt sad and as if I was one of their brethren.
Have you watched/read 'The Hobbit'? That is when Bilbo goes on the adventure that is talked about there.
1:19:09 Still my favorite scene 👀😂🧝🏼♀️
the normal version was in theatres, extended was only on box set.
You may not have realised because the cues are quite well disguised in this film but boromir's last words 'my king' are quite a signficant end to his character arc.
Please watch the extended versions of the other two. They’re amazing and definitely add depth to several characters. It’s a must in my opinion.
I like the way you both got progressively into the movie.
My brother, my captain, my king
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For context. The eye IS Sauron's Spirit. He lost his body, so he uses puppets to do his bidding. (It's slightly different in the books)
It’s not slightly different. The eye is metaphorical in the books. Sauron absolutely has a body at this point. Though I admit that the eye visual is effective for purposes of the movies.
@@meltona2 I kinda prefer the idea that even without his body, Sauron is this powerful and influential. It makes the prospect of him getting the ring back even scarier.
4:06 Hobbits are a type of creature that Tolkien, who wrote the books, invented. They are short like dwarves, but not as muscular or stout. They go barefoot as their soles grow thick, leathery soles on them. They tend to be fat rather than lean, living simply, with no complicated machinery.
"The Hobbit" was the first book where Tolkien introduced Hobbits. He had already been writing about Middle Earth in a manuscript for "The Book of Lost Tales". But The Hobbit was the first foray into the story of the one ring. He intended this, as well as LOTR to be one large work. His publisher had to convince him to break LOTR up into three volumes.