Getting Guanidine Carbonate and Hydrochloride from No-Lye Hair Relaxants
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- Опубликовано: 25 авг 2017
- In this video we get Guanidine Carbonate and Hydrochloride from no-lye hair relaxants
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NR bringing you chemistry one video at a time now comes with occasional unboxing therapy
Oh my God, I didn't know chemistry could be so tense! This is so exiting! Is it gonna work? Is it not gonna work? I can't tell! This is better than Game of Thrones!
Needs more incest and betrayal tbh
Ghost2Coast wtf
It's simultaneously terrifying and reassuring that chemical and electrical engineering use the 'eyeball' method. Fairly certain mechanicals use it, too. lol
I was about to leave the house... have to watch this first... priorities
Nice find. Albeit expensive as you mentioned. If you fancy a bit of danger you could do what I did on my channel and heat NH4NO3 and urea to form guanidine nitrate in good yield which could easily be converted to the carbonate and finally the chloride. Downside is you need to heat an explosive substance for several hours.
Next video will likely be a filler video on sulfuric acid concentration. Not sure when i'll get to step 6 of pyrimethamine but hopefully very soon.
NurdRage have you tried lead dioxide electrodes from lead ingot yet??
Can't wait!
Good luck on making pyrimethamine.
The sludge is Denatonium HCl salt. You had Denatonium Benzoate and converted to Den.HCl and benzoic acid. Checking the vapour-pressure nomograph I suspect you have the benzoic acid mixed in, unless guanidinum benzoate precipitated as well.
@juanisabastard sometime you just don't learn about it, it just comes
Exciting times ! Step-by-step molecule assembly - in a garage ! Awesome.
I'm so excited that you're almost there!
Almost there ! Happy to see you have not given up on the pyrimethamine synthesis.
eyeballing and intuition often gets you closer to your product than calculating
That's a way you could incorporate product placements into your videos lol
I wish. but no i didn't get paid at all.
so much hype for the end of this series
With any research you have to start somewhere. Eyeballing is really an educated guess. Intuition based on years of experience isn't a bad starting point. Then through experimentation, you refine the recipe.
Thanks for another interesting video.
Love your videos, thank you a lot for making your videos :D
I hope you have a plan for some other projects to take on after this one is finished. Your videos are so interesting to watch I'm always waiting for the next one ^^
You can buy a lot of amazing chemicals in drug stores or just basic shops, you just need to extract them
In commercial practice, the relatively strong organic chemical base, guanidine is usually present in the form of guanidine hydroxide. However, guanidine hydroxide is not generally stable for long periods in aqueous solutions. Consequently, it must be prepared fresh just before using.
Guanidine hydroxide is generally prepared by reacting an inorganic chemical base such as an alkaline earth hydroxide with an aqueous solution of a salt of guanidine, where the anion of this guanidine salt forms a precipitate with the cation of the alkaline earth hydroxide. In commercially available products of this type, the guanidine hydroxide is generally prepared using guanidine carbonate and calcium hydroxide.
Maybe slightly expensive, than production classic guanidine nitrate, but much beautiful all this reactions in this video. And more safely. And in chemistry should by the beauty. Must be beauty.
Laboratory of Liptakov Then you must enjoy working with all of those ammine complexes, so many great colors!
What 2 videos at once... *checks calendar*... its not Christmas yet!
really sorry, this video is the only new one. The previous one is just a reupload because it got flagged
NurdRage no problem i dont think i saw this early so to me its 2 new ones!
Wait, got flagged for what?
Why did it get flag?
Revealing one incredible secret that drug companies don't want you to know!
I'm so fucking hyped!
and my mom used to use this to straighten my hair as a child....
"the solution has been stirred for 2 weeks ..... yes i've been on vacation, why?" -eyeballing :D
We are producer of guanidine salts in China.Guanidine carbonate is our main products.
Olá! Magnífico trabalho!🙏🙏🙏👏👏👏👍👍👍 Se eu colocar ácido nítrico eu obtenho nitrato de guanidina??
please unbox more beauty products
At first I thought he was going to make Guanidine Nitrate!
What is your next plan nurdage! I suggest you make potassium perchlorate
My hair is anxious too.
Ha ha ha ! Hardcore determination :')
Fuck yea, radical options!
Hey NurdRage. I have a question, what is more hygroscopic, sodium nitrate or ammonium nitrate?
So, what's the chance you'll try to totally synthesize folinic acid since that's the other half of the complex that makes up Daraprim?
After watching Primitive Technology's latest video, I started wondering if someone like you would be able to produce a photosensitive liquid from scratch (without buying anything) to reinvent photography. Let's just assume that you have the necessary laboratory glass and readily available metals like silver and copper in a mine and river. Would you be able to produce silver nitrate or even better, halides?
It's a lot of mining, but it's possible. Just get some saltpeter and sulfuric acid, mix it and shield your eyes, and then chuck the silver on it
Do you order your equipment or is there a way to make it at home
How do you know youve isolated a chemical when you have somewhat unknown inputs like this? Like that slime- how do you know youve eliminated all the other classes of chemicals?
Also great work! Really picking up again on the pyramethamine!
Yeah I'd like to know that as well, I'm curious if it's just more eyeballing lol
i don't. but i consider what contamination remains acceptable for what i want to use it for.
NurdRage no substitute for smarts!
He has sent some chemicals to a lab for "Nuclear magnetic resonance spectroscopy" to check what he had a few times before and he might do it with the final product as well.
well absolutely for the final product!
He may not need to for an intermediate step, though if he has problems he may want to revisit this synthesis and purity.
is the reaction between urea and ammonia not possible/ viable. Or maybe with hydroxylamine (not sure how you‘d get that) and then removing the hydroxy group
Considering only the successful reactions, what's is the overall cost of your synthesis? let's say normalized by mass, for example per gram. can you tell it to us at the end of this serie?
only the successful ones? probably several hundred dollars so far. But if you factor in the cost of failure and ancillary costs like lab space rental, i'm at $22000 so far.
You can probably shave off costs on almost every step so an estimate of the first route is kinda pointless.
Thank you for the reply. keep up the great work!
each step is only about $50-$100,
But it's the fact that I personally *failed* so much before i got them right that some steps cost +$1000 with the number of repeats and do-overs i had to do. But now that i've shown how to do them. Anyone copying me shouldn't have spend that much.
What do you think about "urea hydrochloride" ??
Maybe check out AllChemystery's methods for making guanidine bicarbonate and guanidine nitrate.
NurdRage does an Unboxing Video.
Anyone know a good book that goes over how to make all basic chemicals?
....kind of like the Merck Index, or is that my best bet
A lot of different oils and extracts from plants.
Its used in fireworks to and guanidine nitrate costs about 8.00 a pound! Lol
I will not comment on what does this slime @3:46 look like...:D
Can you replicate a flameless ration heater?
sounds like a good idea, i'll consider it.
"Botanicals".
Give me a break.
lol, and the primary ingredient is guanidine... which is made industrially by completely artificial means.
How much did the box set you back?
I found it on Amazon, looks likes it's about $20 bucks (free shipping) in the US, and $10 plus $25 shipping in Canada. Why the pricing is so weird in Canada I don't know. (And it's not even crossing the border - shipped from Ontario)
I see you've discovered the Canuck tax. In addition to GST.
Are they the same
Hi😊
Just buy it by the pound from pyro chem source!
Is it just me or does melting your hair and then resolidifying it sound really bad for said hair?
What would you use pyrimethamine for anyway?
nothing really, it's just a challenge, like climbing mount Everest.
Had you considered urea+P2O5? It seems so obvious but I can't find a report of a recent attempt. Hair relaxant an unlikely purchase round here.
let me know of a domestic source of P2O5 and i'll give it a try.
Maybe, urea phosphate is already half-way? I heated 40g urea with 25g of ancestral pentoxide and it frothed, even too nicely. I wasn't however able to get it to fuse after this. I presume the very white chalky substance is urea phosphate. It doesn't visibly react with water and I'm wondering what to do next.
I have asked Chem Player. Maybe they have an idea?
Hey NerdRage is there a way to convert it to its freebase form?
Or into its hydroxide form?
He converts it into hydroxide in the video.
You always make videos on organic stuff plz make videos on inorganic and tell me how could I prepare some potassium nitrite easily
2:08 oh no... I know the difference between "let react for 1 to 4 h" to "let react overnight" or "16 h"...
But then there are us analytical chemists... And sometimes our bosses want a 3 day study with 12 h increments... Those are the moments I want to be a preparative chemist again xD Luckily that happened only once so I'm cool in analytical chemistry 👌
Haha this a step towards Guanidine lO4? ;)
I'm late!
nurdrage reply pls
Isnt Guanidine component of DNA?
No, that's guanine.
misoup1
However you can get guanidine from the decomposition of guanine
not first
I mean no offense, but, why does this remind me of the show Breaking Bad?
Amazing what junk people put in their hair... :P
You have long thumbs
Am I the only one seeing this video a bit choppy?
nurdrage is a girl?
also, whats with the shaking at 0:46, parkinsons? or maybe a little too much redbull
That bit is actually sped up, so small movements of the hands that you may not have otherwise noticed are exaggerated.
HgEuAaVrEdN must be a very ugly woman (I swear to god they are male arms 🙂)
what the hell is a hair relaxant
its so black ladies with nappy hair can straighten their hair out at home
He fully stated what it was in in the video
Lawdy, fella, blacks don't like being referred to as "some people."
I used this on my pubes
I believe he said just "people. Although African Americans may be a primary user of said product they are likely not the only ones.
Add molecular sieves to coca cola
Firehoax i think they will decompose and/or gunk up
The Chemical Workshop wouldnt it do the mentos cola thing, because of the surface area, maybe 4A or something
Decompose - Coke is quite acidic and sieves are destroyed by acid, according to another video (I forget whether it was NurdRage or NileRed that mentioned it.)
RedwoodRhiadra oh, ok